Innawoods Plan: Why wouldn't this work?

[Anonymous No.55941780]

/biz/ bros hear me out:

Lets say I wanted to buy a plot of undeveloped land (pic related). It's $88,000 in Oregon. Why couldn't i do the following:

- If I work a crappy Amazon warehouse tier job paying $20 an hour I'll take $624 a week or $2496 a month after taxes.
- Assuming I can live on the bare minimum of expense ($150 a month on food/rent) we're at $2346. I can achieve this by sleeping in my car, crashing on friends/families couches, etc.
- This works out to $28,152 a year.
- Give the cost of the property is only $88,000 after ~3.13 years I'll have enough to pay for it outright in cash.
- Then I can retire on the land and collect free government gibs as I do little shit jobs to sustain myself and improve the land.

Why wouldn't this work? It's only ~3 years of suffering for a lifetime of getting away from it all.

[Anonymous No.55941818]

>>55941780

[Anonymous No.55941887]

>>55941780
Where are you getting a zero% interest loan for raw land? Most banks won't do land loans except with a 50% down payment and crazy rates.
Also if you can get a loan for $90k you could literally just buy SPY shares with it and use the growth/dividends to rent a studio apartment. You wouldn't have to work at all.

[Anonymous No.55941898]

>>55941887
>Given the cost of the property is only $88,000 after ~3.13 years I'll have enough to pay for it outright in cash.

No loan. I'd pay for it in cold hard cash.

[Anonymous No.55941979]

>>55941898
Where are you living in the mean time? a Tent?
Oh yeah $150 for rent+food. Lol you have to 10x that. Rent is $500 if you live in a college town in the mountains with multiple roommates. $150 will get you a studio apartment in Zimbabwe.

[Anonymous No.55942047]

>>55941979
I'd most likely bounce around from couch to couch here and there, but mostly sleep in my car. I have a few friends/family that would be cool with me parking and sleeping in their driveway. Shower at the gym. It wouldn't be for long mind you. Just 3 years.

[Anonymous No.55942057]

>>55941887
>>55941979
Is this a poor attempt at trolling? something is extremely off about your post, it's like you didn't even read OP and just respond to what you imagine it said.

[Anonymous No.55942280]

Get a CDL and just live in the truck while you make double that of working at a warehouse

[Anonymous No.55942329]

>>55942280
This..only reason to stick around at Amazon longer than 6 months is build a career in management.

[Anonymous No.55942344]

>>55942280
it would definitely cut the time required to raise the money down significantly. Still the time tire required to get a CDL (school, landing a job, paying school fees) shouldn't be discounted. Warehouse job you can get as long as you have a pulse.

>>55942047
It does seem that way. I'm going to assume that since no one has mentioned any real pitfalls my plan is air tight and will work beautifully.

[Anonymous No.55942369]

worthless desert land in arguably the most isolated and desolate part of the lower 48. I'm a pilot based out of Bend, I fly to these cities in Central Oregon like Lakeview, John Day and Burns pretty regularly. There just isn't a lot, and the land is really harsh to live on.

Not trying to poo poo your idea even. Its certianly beautiful and striking in its way, but its not fit for human habitation really.

[Anonymous No.55942393]

>>55942344
meant for >>55942057

[Anonymous No.55942412]

>>55942369
that's actually exactly the kind of reply i'm looking for anon. I'm not married to this option but really anything in its price range with moderate/temperate climate and a fresh water source is all I care about.

[Anonymous No.55942430]

>>55942412
if you can handle the winters I would say upper midwest way way way before anywhere in central Oregon.

[Anonymous No.55942466]

>>55942369
>its not fit for human habitation really.
Whites like to act like they wuz settlers and shieet but then they say shit like this.
Motherfuckers, if its temperate and there aren't packs of wolves or bears everywhere then you can make it habitable.

[Anonymous No.55942481]

>>55941780
I've got a house with your name on it in this small, quaint rural town!

[Anonymous No.55942508]

>>55942430
I've lived my entire life in Southern California. I think a real winter like what they have in that region of the country might kill me.

>>55942481
nice! does it come with the swinging chair or is that extra? and can I expand the shed out or does it have to remain literal cuck shed proportioned?

[Anonymous No.55942534]

>>55942344
>pic
what is going on

[Anonymous No.55942539]

>>55942466
its 5000 above sea level and one of the driest places in all of the USA. what water there is has all been doled out and spoken for, and even the guys with water rights cant grow much more than alfalfa on it.

Klamath is a 2 hour drive away, and that's not much of a "city". Realistically any sort of business you have to get done has to be done in Bend, which is like 3-4 hours away weather depending.

its not temperate in any reasonable sense. irrigation has made some ranching possible, but you are too late to capitalize on that. a life of "just existing" on worthless high desert land free from the rat race might sound appealing to a common wageserf, and I'm actually not even faulting you for feeling that way, but the reality is extremely depressing.

If I were vanlifing and wanted somewhere to stay for a few months where I knew nobody would bother me? Different story. You could probably really have a great experience. But its not a place you want to set up a life.

[Anonymous No.55942552]

>>55942481
I'm willing to bet an electrical fire happened here

[Anonymous No.55942602]

>>55942539
>a life of "just existing" on worthless high desert land free from the rat race might sound appealing to a common wageserf, and I'm actually not even faulting you for feeling that way, but the reality is extremely depressing

but pilot anon, i'm already doing that right now. i'm just doing it in close proximity to people that are actively looking to steal my catalytic converter or stab me for the $9 i have in my pocket. As far away as I can get from the rest of society better I say. That said I need fresh water to grow my own food and as such this place seems like a no go.

[Anonymous No.55942616]

>>55942602
Like I said, upper midwest. it grants you very similar demographics to central Oregon, tons of water and cheap property. you'll get used to the winters.

I wish you the best anon.

[Anonymous No.55942626]

>>55941780
You either get
1) Property tax'd to death by limpwrist lawyers in NYC/LA that confiscate your property to be sold into another scam REIT
2) Monsanto scientist virgins and bill gates finds a way to garnish your property to plow it over for glyphosate GMO corn to make more frito lays so the annual 1 million squatemalans having 8 kids each crossing the border don't drop below obese BMI and instant die from ozempic complications

yass capitalism

[Anonymous No.55942644]

>>55942539
>a life of "just existing" on worthless high desert land free from the rat race might sound appealing to a common wageserf, and I'm actually not even faulting you for feeling that way, but the reality is extremely depressing.
This isn't really saying much though. Our lives are inherently depressing. Does it really matter whether he's depressed in rural Oregon or he's depressed in a big metro patronizing taco trucks? It's fucking depressing either way.

[Anonymous No.55942987]

>>55941780
Go work on boats or oil rigs for 2 years with room and board and you can buy it outright, although youre probably better off buying something in rural iowa thats an actual house. I would do it but the crushing loneliness is so brutal that id rather try to turn my 100k into a million or die at this point.

[Anonymous No.55943067]

>>55941780
So you have this undeveloped land. Where are you going to live? You'll have to build a house on it. Where will you get the money for that?

$150/month for food? Where are you shopping? I spend that much in some weeks.

How do you get from wherever you're crashing to and from the warehouse? $4/gallon is here to stay.

[Anonymous No.55943095]

>>55941780
88 borther, 88.

>Give the cost of the property is only $88,000 after ~3.13 years I'll have enough to pay for it outright in cash.
And you expect that exact piece of land to be on the market without increasing in price for 3 years?

Also, I don't get how you expect to make a living after you move to your property? Money grows on trees in that particular plot of land?

That being sad, it would be quite impressive if you actually managed to live like a hobo while saving money, especially after you have a few thousand just parked there, not even earning interest.
Even more impression if you stay with friends and none of them goes "Dude, you work full-time, you don't help financially and you barely eat, what the fuck are you doing with you salary?".

[Anonymous No.55943115]

>>55941780
something like that?
you'd need to figure out how to hook up power, how to collect and filter water, and internet probably unless you want to go full ted
you will need to get this done before winter, i doubt you will want to deal with constant woodburning heat
doable, but requires the efforts of pioneers
also guns are a mandatory obviously, bears will come for your cheetos in the middle of the night
also you would need some other income source to pay for the taxes, even if they are low, this can be done with investements or some online job, thus making internet a necessity (probably not crypto either(you wont be paying taxes once a presidential cycle)) (/biz/ness and finance)
yea im thinking about it too

[Anonymous No.55943161]

>>55941780
if you actually want to live like that and really believe that you can, sure why not.
a lot of the people who say they want to do this wouldn't last a month

[Anonymous No.55943164]

>>55942987
it's only a year longer working at a warehouse without the risk that comes of working on an oil field.

>>55943067
>You'll have to build a house on it. Where will you get the money for that?

*- Then I can retire on the land and collect free government gibs as I do little shit jobs to sustain myself and improve the land.

>$150/month for food? Where are you shopping? I spend that much in some weeks.

I actually am pretty frugal with food. I'm already accustomed to eating poverty tier meals ($2 to $3 a plate) and I usually only eat twice a day. Skip breakfast most days.

>How do you get from wherever you're crashing to and from the warehouse? $4/gallon is here to stay

That ones fair. I hadn't factored in the cost of gas. Assuming I can't get hired at the local Amazon warehouse (4 miles away) i'd have to travel further out to one 24 miles away.

>>55943095
>And you expect that exact piece of land to be on the market without increasing in price for 3 years?
It's actually stayed pretty stagnant the last few years but I suppose it could go up another 10k maybe?

>Also, I don't get how you expect to make a living after you move to your property? Money grows on trees in that particular plot of land?

*- Then I can retire on the land and collect free government gibs as I do little shit jobs to sustain myself and improve the land.

>Dude, you work full-time, you don't help financially and you barely eat, what the fuck are you doing with you salary?

I'll just tell em about what my plan is. Looking to buy a plot of land out in Oregon.

>>55943115
>water

That's really the only concern I have with this particular piece of land. Pilot anon from earlier was mentioning it's a high desert area with little rainfall. which pic related confirms. Seems like the western coast of Oregon is where I should be looking.

[Anonymous No.55943196]

>>55943164
>only a year
>working at a warehouse
>afraid of an oil field but wants to live in the middle of nowhere
NGMI

[Anonymous No.55943204]

>>55943161
I already basically never interact with others. spend most of the holed up in my room or in my car doing gig work. I'm also a bit of a DIY'er and an electronics tinkerer. I've built self watering rasied bed planters before. Have little doodads measuring soil moisture levels, which activates water pumps to turn on and auto water my lil veggies. I have the two things a life of isolation requires anon: autism levels of stubbornness and a willingness to learn new skills to achieve a goal.

[Anonymous No.55943221]

>>55941780
Why slave for 3 years to live like forest anon?

[Anonymous No.55943249]

>>55943196
middle of nowhere i feel has to be safer than being surrounded by heavy equipment and a flammable substance being pumped out of the ground 24/7?

>>55943221
I see it as halfway between? I get to live like him while also not having to constantly worry about where to rest my head or being shot at by angry property owners.

[Anonymous No.55943287]

>>55943095
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/View-Ln-Lakeview-OR-97630/2083658789_zpid/

it actually it has a real fucked up price history? they wanted $17,000 in 2020, but it kept being added and removed several times before they finally settled on $95,000. it's dropped since then.

[Anonymous No.55944812]

>>55943287
So this place is already 70k overpriced. Keep in mind that you will have to spend another 20k on utilities and other plumbing. Why even bother with this crap land when you can get a ready to move in house somewhere semi rural? Also states like Idaho, Oregon Utah even Nevada and Arizona, fucking forget it prices are so high and not even worth it thanks to California faggots and other IT niggers.

[Anonymous No.55944840]

>>55944812
maybe some kind of private family deal? "gee grandma, i'll buy the land from you for like, what do you think? $17,000? It's all i got ya see..." That or someone kept fucking up the data entry? No idea.

[Anonymous No.55944872]

>>55941780
>Rural eastern Oregon. Where the fuck are you going to work at an Amazon warehouse? Better yet, where are you going to work? What's the drive like to civilization several hours? Might as well live in Alaska where there is cheaper land. What you do is start your own city and get people to come to it.

[Anonymous No.55944878]

>>55942344
OP, I am from Oregon. The reason property is so cheap is the high property taxes. The base state tax rate is about 1% per year and the county ties also typically have a tax rate that is about the same. So you will probably have to pay about 2k per year in taxes.

Also, the Gibson in Oregon are weak AF. They make you apply for jobs if you want SNAP.

[Anonymous No.55944885]

>>55941780
>Lakeview is situated in the Goose Lake Valley at the foot of the Warner Mountains and at the edge of Oregon's high desert country. Its economy is based on agriculture, lumber production, and government activities. In addition, tourism is an increasingly important part of the city's economy.

Tourism? Logging? Farming? What are you going to do OP? LOL

[Anonymous No.55944896]

>>55944840
No you can just get a home in semi rural area in mid west for like 60k. Well you will have to commute for an hour to get to work but it's what you were gonna do anyway with your 5X overpriced muh le based Oregon land.

[Anonymous No.55944900]

>>55941780
holy fuck lmao

3 years of the prime of your life and you want to spend it living in a car

and the only job you can get is a warehouse job for amazon

let me save you from yourself, you have (2) options

(1) go study something in demand that is hiring for 60k+ per year (nurse, computer science, engineer, HVAC, whatever)

(2) work on your fitness and looks and find a girl to mooch off of

[Anonymous No.55944909]

>>55944878
>Also, the Gibson in Oregon are weak AF. They make you apply for jobs if you want SNAP

Shit. I just have to apply to the job right? I don't actually have to be hired?

>>55944885
>Tourism? Logging? Farming? What are you going to do OP? LOL

Sell tourists my home made jams? work as an overnight shelf stocking boy at the walmart? suck off a stranger for $10 in the forest? I have no idea anon, but I'm sure there are options. There are people living there afterall they must be getting money from somewhere.

[Anonymous No.55944912]

>>55941780
Man I wished I lived in America, that same property in Canada would be like 500k

[Anonymous No.55944927]

>>55944896
Also an option. I was just looking at the West coast of the U.S. because that's mostly what i'm familiar with. I'm a city boy, I don't know from harsh winters.

>>55944900
>3 years of the prime of your life and you want to spend it living in a car
I'm already spending that time working and barely making rent. If things continue going up in price (they will) i'll be on the streets along with several thousands. This is one way I can see where I can suffer some discomfort now for future/perpetual housing later.

>and the only job you can get is a warehouse job for amazon

Not the only one but the one most readily available. they take anyone. have you seen the state of the current job market? even qualified people have a hard time getting work.

[Anonymous No.55944938]

>>55944912
I don't know if you want that land though anon, to hear people on here talk about it, it sounds like a real run down piece of shit. I think it still holds some charming beauty to it though.

[Anonymous No.55944966]

Better listing info. Taxes would only be a couple hundred dollars a year.

[Anonymous No.55944984]

>>55944927
if you're not willing to work for a better job then you need to work on your looks and find a partner to live with who will help you with expenses

chad always has a place to stay, has no problem having a girl pay for things, and it's easier than ever to have them do this since they're all brainwashed into thinking they should be the girl boss/bread winner instead of mothers

everyone wants to help married couples (especially if they have children) - landlords will give deals if it's someone they know, you can find help through church, but if you're single and fat or unattractive then no one cares about you in this world

there are plenty of parts of this country where you can buy a home on a mcdonalds salary. if you are looking rural then you need to look into USDA loans, they'll lend you at 4% right now with no money down

[Anonymous No.55945017]

>>55944984
>but if you're single and fat or unattractive then no one cares about you in this world

:(

> if you are looking rural then you need to look into USDA loans, they'll lend you at 4% right now with no money down

I had no idea this was a thing. I will look into this further. Thank you tough love anon.

[Anonymous No.55945039]

>>55944927
Prices will not go up any higher how much are they going to drop I don't know but they will drop. Your best bet is just sit and watch it's what I'm doing.

[Anonymous No.55945087]

>>55945039
Things can always get much worse anon.

[Anonymous No.55945143]

>>55945087
Prices are being already stagnant for few months. I browse Zillow for fun sometimes and started noticing price cuts since beginning of August almost everywhere and those houses I saw more than six months ago are still not sold.

[Anonymous No.55945153]

>>55945143
in the state in the country i live in prices following an epic run to ATH at the time, crabbed for 15 years. you may be waiting a hwile anon.

[Anonymous No.55945156]

>>55941780
>>55941780
Why don’t you just take a 100k job and pay it off in a year? The bigger problem is that you don’t have the skills to improve the land anyway.

[Anonymous No.55945188]

>>55945156
>Why don’t you just take a 100k job and pay it off in a year?
That's not a realistic option for most anon. I have bachelors in STEM (biology. basically useless) and even if I landed a gig in the field i'm not anywhere close to 100k. Closer to 50k if anything.

>The bigger problem is that you don’t have the skills to improve the land anyway.

True, but I do know several people that do. There's also professor youtube. Couple that with the fact that i have the rest of my life to learn it doesn't seem an insurmountable task?

[Anonymous No.55945191]

>>55945153
It's about 10% down from July prices and I'm sure it's only downhill from now on.

[Anonymous No.55945271]

>>55941780
>innawoods
buddy you want to be close to cali. this is hardly innawoods.

you can buy an undeveloped section in tennessee for pennies and chuck a walmart shed on it for basically nothing.

[Anonymous No.55945278]

>>55941780
I had a similar (but not the same) idea a while ago, buying a big patch of land in some rural place and installing solar panels or something to live off. Sounds like a nice idea but I don't even have a car and living in the middle of nowhere is a nice fantasy but probably a shit reality.

[Anonymous No.55945309]

why the fuck would you buy land in a libcuck garbage state like oregon? buy cheaper land in idaho or wyoming and invest in guns

[Anonymous No.55945353]

>>55945271
>buddy you want to be close to cali. this is hardly innawoods.
Partially true,all my people are from/or in CA. Close but not too close proximity would be nice. If you can believe my original dream was to make enough to buy a home in La Jolla, CA (pic related). That didn't work out obviously. Now i'd just be happy to have a patch of land to call my own and spend the rest of my days working on shit till I die of a heart attack at 50.

>>55945278
>Sounds like a nice idea but I don't even have a car and living in the middle of nowhere is a nice fantasy but probably a shit reality.

I guess it really depends on why you'd want to live like that? Personally, I don't see much of a point to living the way most people do now? Buy a nice home you can't afford, work forever till you pay it off then die surviving on a fixed income? Who's the nice home for anyways? I've never needed more than a bedroom and an area outside to work on projects. Not even concerned with roastie appeal of a shack in the woods. The last thing I need is a woman to complicate shit and cause aggravation. Frankly, not living isolated innawoods seems insane to me.

>>55945309
>libcuck garbage state like oregon
I thought that was only Portland? Regardless there's a lot of natural beauty in the PNW. I would invest in guns though. You never know when some random crackhead might decide to descend upon my rural cuck shack.

[Anonymous No.55945364]

On a non-bugout note, I have been somewhat interested in vacant lots and camper living. I could live in a truck camper or rv and move between a couple of small empty plots that I would purchase and in exchange sell my expensive house. I could probably pocket 250 gs if I sell my house and I could snag empty residential property for about 80k, and a camper vehicle for another 5-40k depending on condition, features and age. There is real potential to do this, live debt free, and work in a major metro while stacking cash without making mtg payments

[Anonymous No.55945391]

>>55945364
Yep, realistically as long as you aren't carrying a mortgage the possibility of stacking cash is easy.

[Anonymous No.55945521]

>>55945353
>I thought that was only Portland
Former Oregonian here. It is mostly Portland and Eugene, yes. But Portland completely controls the policies of the state. They actually just passed an unconstitutional gun ban that made California gun laws look reasonable. It was obviously challenged right away but it just goes to show you how much ability to fuck you over that the libfaggots in Portland have.
Portland is a shithole overrun with drugs and homeless. You don't want people who think that's okay to run your state. It truly is a pity too. Physically, Oregon is one of the most beautiful states, imo. Completely ruined by bad politics.

[Anonymous No.55946055]

>>55943287
The prices you see on zillow are just the ask prices from delusional owners. Market prices can be very different and a lot cheaper

[Anonymous No.55946350]

>>55942344
Is this some weird form of psychological torture? If so its working.

[Anonymous No.55946377]

>>55944984
>based blackpilled anon
On another note I had no idea you could get a house on sub 100,000$>

[Anonymous No.55946421]

>>55941780
>idiot with retarded plan shits up /biz/ catalog
It's all so tiring.

[Anonymous No.55946841]

>>55945353
>I guess it really depends on why you'd want to live like that? Personally, I don't see much of a point to living the way most people do now?
Live loke what, having running water and sewage and and electricity and cheap internet throu6fiber optic cables? Yeah, I like living in a civilization, even too I am a reclusive guy...

[Anonymous No.55946912]

>>55946841
I forgot to mention: I also enjoy having stores where I can buy food and other basic stuff to keep myself alive and maybe stuff to keep my house nice and clean and so on.

[Anonymous No.55946958]

OP if you're able to live on $150 a month, that $88,000 can earn you around $200 a month on average just from the most basic bitch dividends from whatever top 30 DOW company you want to put it in.

[Anonymous No.55947093]

>>55943164
>*- Then I can retire on the land and collect free government gibs as I do little shit jobs to sustain myself and improve the land.
OK.
What free gibs what shit jobs and how much will you PROFIT out of those?

"I'll go be a handyman and fix small shit in people's houses!", great, you're in a rural area where most people do most of the work themselves. How far away is the nearest urban area with a decent population (>50k at least)? How much do you burn in gas to get there? Where's the closest hardware store? How much more expensive are the items there?
How will you get clients?
Same thought process applies for other jobs.

[Anonymous No.55947112]

>>55944812
>So this place is already 70k overpriced.
While it probably is overpriced, the price jump might be from when they added the structures (shed + 2 small greenhouses, going by the photos)
Still a rip-off, but seemingly with a reasonable explanation for a price increase.

[Anonymous No.55947120]

>>55941780
>for a lifetime of getting away from it all.
because this isnt true. you can never get away. the will come after you and your children

[Anonymous No.55947224]

>>55941780
I'm currently on a family vacation in Wisconsin Dells, and while the town itself is chintzy as all hell, WI does seem beautiful, cheap, and White. Any advice for trying to make OP's dream come true in a less desolate part of the country?

Well, my dream wouldn't really be to UncleTed it out and live off gibs, but more like, have somewhere a couple hours away to get away from it all the way people do summer cabins. Just. Not a cabin that costs me as much as a decent condo in Chicago.

[Anonymous No.55947471]

>>55945353
Did you check Shasta and Modoc county they have kind of reasonable prices for California? In Modoc you can get an acre for like 2-3K for a lot right next to the national forest but everything I saw there is POA and it means they probably have more restrictions on how you can build there.

[Anonymous No.55947583]

>>55947224
the midwest always seems great in the summer months, live here november-april and you'll understand why so many snow bird

the infrastructure sucks, the people are all rejects who never left, every job pays 15-22/hour, all the major cities are full of niggers, and the suburbs have been ruined by diversity and H1-b VISAs. it's been nothing but downhill since ~2008 in terms of demographics - that's when white population peaked in public schools

everyone who has the chance to leaves, leaving the area full of white trash rejects. the women are fat feminists who view marriage and children as death, they all end up single in their mid-30s because the prettiest girl in their friend circle landed chad in her teens and they're hopelessly chasing an equivalent

the men are your typical white trash dumbasses who tat themselves up, love to vape and smoke weed, ruin nature with bluetooth speakers blasting shit country music, litter everywhere, drive full sized pickup trucks, LOVE to fish, and are ok with living out of a trailer - then they call this "high testosterone behavior"

then men who aren't like that leave during their college years and take jobs elsewhere (NYC, chicago, denver, austin, raleigh, etc.)

[Anonymous No.55947659]

>>55942616
you're forgetting to mention something about the upper Midwest. It's full.

We have enough problems, we don't need homeless Californians showing up here, bringing their problems in tow, and freezing to death in the winter.

[Anonymous No.55947692]

>>55947583
Yeah I have noticed that honestly. ALL my friends in Chicago are Michiganders, but actually being in Michigan or Wisconsin, that "rejects who never left" phenomenon is HEAVY. And I've read some stuff that blames Chicago's brain-draining for the outgrowth of the nu-Upper-Midwestern conservatism. The people here are freaky, lumpy retards. BUT, they're white and they seem to be having babies like it's going out of style. In a way I admire it, though the thought running through my head was "Oh, so this is where all those dudes posting on 4chan come from...." - You know the ones. The "My wife and kids in an 87% white county, you could never get me near one of those big cities" guys. Granted I live in Niggertown, USA, but still.

[Anonymous No.55947700]

>>55947583
I was born and raised in rural Pennsylvania, and I moved to New York City over a decade ago: the scenario you described of the Midwest also pertains to PA, too.
Whenever I visit family back home, my small quaint town feels like Brazil or South Africa now.
I work for an investment bank in Manhattan and earn a decent living, but my friends back home are all 30+ wagies who earn peanuts working in retail and spending their meager income on consoming.
Back in PA, ever white person is a fat redneck like Larry the Cable Guy, and every nonwhite person is a ghetto thug.
It's really sad.

[Anonymous No.55947724]

>>55947700
this is why i'm ready to join the first Mars colony

[Anonymous No.55947746]

>>55947583
>the men are your typical white trash dumbasses who tat themselves up, love to vape and smoke weed, ruin nature with bluetooth speakers blasting shit country music, litter everywhere, drive full sized pickup trucks, LOVE to fish, and are ok with living out of a trailer - then they call this "high testosterone behavior"
Also, inb4 someone says, "Cool story bro", I have a little anecdote about my visit back home to PA a few months ago:
I wanted to escape Manhattan and visit the country, so I went hiking in Central PA.
The park outside the nature preserve was filled with Mexicans blasting shitty music.
When I started hiking, I saw three trashy white trash rednecks smoking cigarettes on the trail.
A trashy interracial couple riding loud dirtbikes sped past me, despite the sign saying no motor vehicles.
As I left, a huge family of Indian tourists appeared out of nowhere and kept staring at me and taking pictures.
As I got in my car, some Puerto Rican thug in a loud riceburner was driving around in circles in the parking lot and revving his engine.
I went to a small convenience store to get a drink, and the clerk was a fat white woman who looked deformed.
As I left the store, a shirtless gay couple staggered towards the door slowly and struggled to open the door as if they were high on drugs or brain damaged.
So much for getting away from the city for a few days.

[Anonymous No.55947870]

>>55947700
I grew up in rural Northern Iowa and moved to Northern NJ for almost a decade and have since moved back to the state to help take care of my aging parents a few years back but it sounds a bit different in my experience than PA. The town I grew up in hasn't changed a bit, except for the fact that everyone is 10 years older, some have died and Hispanics are moving in bringing their problems with them, lots of them work for dogshit low wage at meat packing plants 30-40 minutes away. I can sympathize with the earnings, any of my old friends that stayed make mediocre wage at best, one of my friends is an unemployed 40 year old communist virgin who lives with his dad (he did it to himself by refusing to finish a software engineering degree, lmao he'd probably be the wealthiest of all my friends if he put the last 10% of efforts in for the piece of paper), another teaches English internationally since he couldn't get a job anywhere with his biz degree, my engineering friends moved to California, urban Pennsylvania, Texas, or Massachusetts upon graduating. The white guy being Larry the cable guy is true, fortunately we don't have many truly ghetto people (like I'd come across in places like Paterson or Elizabeth, NJ) but do have some trashy Hispanics. In any regard, watching my old neighbors die and be replaced by Hispanics is a bit depressing, there are almost no young white families around. Makes me grateful to live in a more prosperous part of Iowa.

[Anonymous No.55947923]

>>55947870
>one of my friends is an unemployed 40 year old communist virgin who lives with his dad
This one hits too close to home.
I don't want to go into too many details about my personal life, but this essentially describes a childhood best friend of mine who had an identity crisis and now is an unironic woke SocDem, despite being previously based and redpilled prior to 2022.

[Anonymous No.55947988]

>>55941780
>Then I can retire on the land and collect free government gibs as I do little shit jobs to sustain myself and improve the land.
How much government gibs can you get?

Oregon gets pretty cold and warm over the year, so it'd be worth having temperature control sorted out. Sleeping in your car at negative temperatures would be rough.

Might be worth waging for another year or two to help save some money for emergency expenses, car repairs, etc. and so you can buy things like a wood stove, solar panels, batteries, insulation, the sort of stuff that you can't just build yourself easily, but would add a lot of convenience.

[Anonymous No.55948092]

>>55946841
>>55946912

You can have the vast majority of those things now, completely devoid of society. Do you think people in the past were living in filth completely devoid of entertainment staring into the sun all day? You can produce your own power via solar, get internet via starlink, and still travel once a month into town for cleaning supplies if that's what you want. All without having to deal with randoms making noise while you're trying to sleep or actively looking to harm you in your daily life.

[Anonymous No.55948144]

>>55941780
This is unironically a good idea. But you can definitely find cheaper land.

[Anonymous No.55948145]

>>55946958
>OP if you're able to live on $150 a month
I'd be able to do it for a short amount of time. If i was gonna spend the next 40 years living like that i'd shoot myself now. It's putting up with inconvenience now for future benefit. that's the only reason i'd live on $150 a month.

>>55947093
>What free gibs what shit jobs and how much will you PROFIT out of those?

Once you no longer have the monthly rent nut to worry about you can live on surprisingly little. but to answer your question i'm sure theres plenty to do. Hell, even shitty remote customer service gigs are an option once you get some kind of internet set up.

>>55947112
This is most likely the case.

>>55947471
>Did you check Shasta and Modoc county they have kind of reasonable prices for California?

I've looked at northern California but not extensively. My limited experience with the department of building and safety leads me to believe they'd never let me build a cuck shack anywhere without paying through nose in permit fees.

[Anonymous No.55948191]

>>55947659
That settles it. I'm coming to your town anon. I'm gonna park my car/home just outside of your property. You'll see me every morning washing my dishes on the street as I holler back "morning neighbor!".

>>55947988
>Might be worth waging for another year or two to help save some money for emergency expenses, car repairs, etc. and so you can buy things like a wood stove, solar panels, batteries, insulation, the sort of stuff that you can't just build yourself easily, but would add a lot of convenience.

Yeah I think you're probably right anon, It'd be difficult to pad everything by yet another year of waging but honestly it would make things much easier in the long run.

>How much government gibs can you get?
I honestly have no idea, in CA the gibs people get are pretty decent. Sometimes they'll cover all electrical expenses, food, and even subsidize rent (if the landlord is willing to play ball). One anon said the gibs were weak in Oregon though so couldn't tell ya.

[Anonymous No.55948352]

>>55947700
>>55947746
Allentown here, how do I escape it bros?

[Anonymous No.55948464]

>>55947923
republicans/conservatives aren't against institutions existing (socialism) - you see this as the republican leaning suburbs always have the highest salaried teachers, law enforcement, and city maintenance.

they're just vehemently against that money going towards non-whites.

the government knows this, so they dont let you vote for it, and if you do vote for it, some jewish judge will say "you can't do that", and everyone complies

[Anonymous No.55948629]

>>55948191
>That settles it. I'm coming to your town anon. I'm gonna park my car/home just outside of your property. You'll see me every morning washing my dishes on the street as I holler back "morning neighbor!".
Hahaha, feel free to move to where I grew up but when you work at a meat packing plant and the only employer within a 45 minute drive, for 12-14 bucks an hour with Paco and Juan freezing your ass off in the cold winters with nothing but plain farm fields all around don't blame me. Best of luck to you Californianon.

[Anonymous No.55949040]

>>55948191
>I honestly have no idea,
You should,. that is why I told you:
>>55947093
>What free gibs what shit jobs and how much will you PROFIT out of those?
You need to know how much money you'll get.
You need to know the base level of income you can expect so you can start planning things. Plan A, Plan B, Plan C.

>>55948145
>Once you no longer have the monthly rent nut to worry about you can live on surprisingly little. but to answer your question i'm sure theres plenty to do. Hell, even shitty remote customer service gigs are an option once you get some kind of internet set up.
Sure, but you still need to know as accurately as possible how much you'll get, from gibs or from work and exactly how much you'll need.
Again, if you start working as a handyman (just an example) and you can get $25/hour, sounds fine. But then you have expenses, maybe you'll burn $5 in gas to get any job. Materials, car maintenance, taxes.
How much profit would you get out of work?
Study the whole thing in depth, be as accurate as possible on the numbers.

I'm not american, but all I'm telling you is actually in good faith, as I've considered moving to a more rural area in my country.
Cheap(er) rent, usually less diversity, better outdoors.
Problem?
Little to no jobs (and I have no luck getting jobs in an urban area, let alone a rural one)
My (tiny) side business? I would have to drive 20-30 minutes each way to ship orders and to grab materials. That would fuck the entire logistics.