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55927731 No.55927731 [Reply] [Original]

It is clear now that the long term debt peak of 1928 happened again in 2022, every way you look at it the bond market is pricing in a very severe economic contraction (something more similar to 1929 than 2008, 2000,...), and for you braindead permabull moonboy coomers: the bond market (unlike your cute little stock and crypto market) is where the actual big money plays

>> No.55927738

>>55927731
Why does the yield spread turning negative lead to recessions only AFTER it has gone back above zero?

>> No.55927740

Clown world. No one cares about your boomer shit, old man.

>> No.55927743

>>55927731
Op is a midwit
The yield curvry was the market predicting lower rates because it predicted a recession
Now its the market predicting lower rates because of the state debt

>> No.55927758

And to add normally at this point was the top of a rally but this time the crash got frontrunned anyway at the rake hikes when it used to pump

>> No.55927766

Don't worry bruv, they're about to unleash a second """"""""COVID"""""""" pandemic to justify another 0% money printing session

>> No.55927785

Absolute nothing burger. Money doesn't mean anything anymore

>> No.55927864

>>55927731
Do you think the FED, SEC or every other economist in the world doesn't know this and only you know? And instead of trying to find a solution they will just short the market? This is what you sincerely think? The FED, all of the federal banks in the world, NOBODY IS THINKING ON A SOLUTION, they all know it is gonna crash but are doing absolutely NOTHING to stop? Because history repeats itself so it is inevitable! Destiny can't be changed! Do you sincerely think that?

>> No.55927875

>>55927864
>THE HECKIN CENTRAL PLANNERS WILL SOLVE THIS, THEY ARE SO SMART THEY'RE BASICALLY GODS
When did this board turn brown?

>> No.55927885

>>55927875
hope you have a happy life, if you are not, maybe you not as smart as you think.

>> No.55927897

>>55927864
"experts" working on something doesn't mean anything.
We still don't have fusion, there are still incurable diseases and humans are still mortal.

If it was bait... then good one

>> No.55928204

>>55927731
are you long duration?

>> No.55928223

>>55927738
That's when it's priced in? I have no idea why it happens in the first place desu.

>> No.55928239

>>55927738
basically it can take a few more years before crash

>> No.55928243

>>55927731
>severe economic contraction
yes thats why they will print even more and flood the market with liquidity, which is why all risk assets will continue to pump

>> No.55928301

>>55927875
its been brown for a long time retard how can you not know 4chan is mostly brown in 2023

>>55927864
"solutions" means a different thing to experts. they want people to be poor, but not starve. everyone should have a job, but not have enough job opportunities to demand more money. of course they want to prevent a crash, but a recession is fine.

>> No.55928341

>>55927864
>And instead of trying to find a solution they will just short the market?
You've never been to a financial capital have you anon?

>> No.55928537

Wouldn't be calling things cute in a snarky way when you can't even read a lagging indicator...

>> No.55928545

>>55927875
Bro the economy is literally numbers on a screen they control. They won't fix it because this is the plan for a reason. Money is infinite, things are finite.

>> No.55928921

>>55927738
Because at that point the market sees that the Fed will soon start lowering rates again.
The Fed will start lowering rates when the economy is super screwed.

>> No.55930983
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55930983

>>55927731
Jep it's definitely world wide over. Thought the US might at least make it until October

>> No.55931035

>>55928243
That only works if there is a demand that matches the production, see china. Btw, the US entered the economic deflationary deathspiral today

>> No.55933227

Thread was supposed to be slid by ignored shills.
Stop paying taxes get ready to kill mercenaries

>> No.55933791

>>55930983
So what will happen after October according to you?

>> No.55933847

>>55933791
Demand and production going to the mean in an attempt to regain equilibrium

>> No.55933956

>>55927785
If money doesn't mean anything anymore then your stocks don't mean anything either and hyperinflation is coming instead of the depression. Honestly, everyone is rooting for a depression because hyperinflation would literally turn America into Haiti

>> No.55933970

>>55927731
The big money plays in bone markets because it is already big. It just wants a safe bet for some decent yield.

If you don't have big money, then playing in the bond market won't make your money big.

>> No.55933992

>>55933956
How is hyperinflation coming dumbo? What happens if the central bank starts to buy securities again and banks reduce their capital requirements when there is nothing to invest into that has a growth expectation for potential borrowers? You mouth breathing niggers ate disgusting. Glad you are likely going to starve

>> No.55934009

>>55933992
Hyperinflation happens when faith in the currency of the real is lost. BRICS, CBDC etc it all leads to the loss of faith in the dollar and the fed can buy securities (which has nothing to do with hyperinflation) or whatever they want Venezuela did it also and they failed. You're a long faggot so you have to hope that a depression or hyperinflation doesn't happen and honestly I can't wait to watch you lose everything. Post your address here so I can slit your throat also and you lose your life on top of your money faggot

>> No.55934024

>>55934009
No. I wonder where you got this idiosyncratic idea from

>> No.55934258

>>55934024
Stay delusional buddy enjoy losing everything later this year

>> No.55934274

Tell us how to profit in your scenario or fuck off

>> No.55934275

>>55934258
Wut? Nigger you have shown in your above statement that you don't have the slightest idea how an economy works, not on a macro level not on a micro level, I wonder, do you identify yourself as communist or socialist?

>> No.55934317

Yo like we can just print these graphs and shit are soo stupid man

>> No.55934345

>>55927731
What did he do?
Also should I become a trade apprentice hmm

>> No.55934384

>>55934345
Security is going to see a revival. And morticians are going to be needed

>> No.55934410
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55934410

They'll just print more money piece of shit incel. You'll NEVER own a home.

>> No.55934418

>>55927731
I don't care about the us, stop spamming this board with irrelevant things

>> No.55934450

>>55934418
You are going to care, when a hegemon goes into deflation, those that sold their goods and services to the hegemon deflate with it. Only that it isn't just a regional hegemon but a global one. Thinking about it, pirates are also going to see a revival. Indian Ocean, street of Hormuz, yellow sea is the place to be if you want to be a pirate

>> No.55934498

>>55934450
Niggas talking about pokemon and pirates and shit, chill bro theyll just print more. Were all gonna take a covid break and get dem stimmies man

>> No.55934891

>>55934450
yeah no
even if major deflation happens that is not how it is going to play out

The world suffers from the lack of aggregate global demand and the US consumer going into debt and buying things is the biggest thing keeping it afloat. If the US consumer stops buying most of the exporting countries lose their surpluses. Germany has low debt so the state can take on debt to reorganize and restructure so it will be 3 years of no private sector growth. Japan has high debt and they will restructure but yen will get fucked for some years. China is so dependent on exporting that I see no way out, the system will have to eat the losses for at least a decade, maybe longer. Resource exporting countries will experience long hardship, those that can change to some other model will do better (Australia, Norgay) but a lot will be fucked. When push comes to shove Saudis will kill everyone else in the oil market. The relative winners will be India, Turkey, Egypt but those depend on the political system being able to adapt so nobody knows.

There will not be pirates but borders, trade restrictions and economic nationalism.

>> No.55935105

>>55934891
Germany is fucked, the producing population is already fleeing from the young leaders and their socialist experiment, while the debt levels are rising and only unproductive niggers arrive

There are already pirates