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Well bears, your response?

>> No.55917752

but it has to go down because... IT JUST HAS TO OK?

>> No.55917753

>>55917661
Even if it’s not going to 12k which i agree, still going to 20k at least

>> No.55917764
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55917764

No bull run until the fed pivots, if the fed doesn't pivot in 2024, there will be no bull-run in 2024.

>> No.55917773

>>55917661
12k was never in the cards, see you at 19.8k and CME gap

>> No.55918117

>>55917764
Kek midwit fed doesnt matter only the cycle matters

>> No.55918137

>>55917661
who cares. its btc season so whether its going up or down. btc dominance will skyrocket and alts get slaughtered

>> No.55918229

>>55917661
You’re right

Because it’s going to 0

Kek dumbfuck crypto baggies

>> No.55918244

>>55917661
>scarcity means the line only go up!
it's still greater fool garbage. Crypto will be squeezed worse and worse the longer interest rates remain 'high' (average). Crypto was purely a creature of the unsustainable interest rates pushed as a response to the 2008 crash.

>> No.55918268

>>55917661
the fact that these guys still believe the blackrock narrative just shows you which direction the manipulation is going

>> No.55918281
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>>55918244
Checked- so (You) think the money printer is fixed? That fiat currencies aren’t devaluing massively year over year and that holding deflationary crypto in the long run is worse than FIAT? Lmao fuck you and kill your self, Jew slave

>> No.55918284

>>55917661
>act smart
i'm sure we'll be told the smart thing to do after the fact

>> No.55918291

>>55917661
>Here is why:
>lists a bunch of meaningless bullshit
So it's going to 13k?

>> No.55918329

>>55918281
This argument is meaningless because literally nobody gives a shit about Bitcin or any other crypto as a storage of value against inflation or as an actual currency. It is purely a speculative asset, people who invest in crypto want to 100x and then cash back out into fiat. And now that that's no longer a possibility with crypto, the wind is out of its sails.

>> No.55918543

>>55917661
The only reason 99% of people buy is to get rich quick. To get a quick 100x return. Once it becomes obvious that this won't happen then all these people will leave. The entire planet has already heard of crypto; there aren't enough new buyers to keep the price inflated.

>> No.55919057

How much does the US government have?
How easy would it be to manipulate the price once all the ETFs are in place?
Both honest questions.

>> No.55919097

>>55917764
yes the whole world resumes to only US, ok.

>> No.55919290

>>55917661
>mysterious wallet accumulated $3 billion worth $BTC in just 3 months
how is this a good thing? someone might have found a vuln in the mining algos to make mining way easier and this is now supposed to be a good thing?

>> No.55919394

>>55919290
Boomer goes to blackrock
>I want to buy le btc
>blackrock: sure, here we go fren
So blackrock will just crap fucking btc out of thin air you stupid fuck?!? OFC THEY NEED TO HAVE FUCKING BTC TO SELL TO THE BOOMERS YOU FUCKING MORON!

>> No.55919423

>>55917661
The key in this cope bulltard post is he admits we might have a "final shakeout". but never to 12k. why? because ermm etf maybe (buy the news!), supply this and that, therefore 12k impossible. for the record I don't fucking know where price could go but neither does that idiot

>> No.55919473

>>55918137
Nigga its been btc season for 6 months already. Altseason is due

>> No.55919484

Make my bitcoins go up now!
Aleluhah

>> No.55919495

>>55919394
Bro seri9usly his questions is about how someone accumulated that much bitcoin in just 3 month, that's a serious thing, how the fuck did that happen?

>> No.55919519

It will go lower once we find out who the Satoshis are. Just one last pump to make the rich richer before the new system kicks in.

>> No.55919561

>>55918281

I will put aside that crypto is just a scam to just say, - people buy it to sell it for fiat or to buy other assets. Are you telling me that crypto, on the whole, not just the 2-3 coins that have maintained their inflated values, so a group of assets that regularly drops in value, fluctuates wildly in value or just drops out entirely or fails is a good asset to hold against inflation? You're retarded. Also, you show you are retarded because you think that fiat currency is the driver of inflation, inflation occurred when we had the Gold standard, the silver standard. The Fed tries to keep inflation at a set rate which is believed to be good for the economy because it is regular and predictable. You can say that is bad monetary policy, that is fine, I don't have a horse in that race. But, I can 100% tell you that backing a currency with -something- does not prevent inflationary periods, or inflation, and in fact the Fed existed alongside both the Gold and Silver standards in the U.S, and that on the whole crypto is a terrible asset to hold. Maybe bitcoin will hold out, possible, but the way people use it, and as a class of assets on the whole - no dog its a terrible thing to have to try and beat inflation.

>> No.55919597

>>55919561
You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded

>> No.55919598

>>55918543
8 billion people in the world, 99% of them looking down the barrel of waging their entire life for fiat money that keeps going down and quality of life keeps dropping.
This is their only viable chance of escape, they will buy.

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another one for the archive, I'll be sure to have a laugh in a few months when BTC crashes

>> No.55919691

>>55917661
His chart is ignoring the 2020 retest of bear lows, if we repeat same patterns we will retest 15k. Bulltards cope

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>>55917764
>MUH PIVOOT
>WE MUST PIVOOOT FOR ANY GAINS

Nvidia basically doubled in a year without any pivot you stupid niggers.
Bitcoin is less than 1 Trillion market cap which is 3x smaller than Apple alone.
Pivoot niggers are the stupidest insects on this board.

>> No.55919878

>>55919394
>So blackrock will just crap fucking btc out of thin air
Yes. It's an ETF. You don't actually get coins to hold in self custody. You get paper bitcoin and just habeeb in God's chosen people.

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>>55919691
>We will repeat a once in a century novel virus outbreak, because the chart says it must happen

Your stupidity made me literally vomit, in my own mouth.

>> No.55919938

>>55917753
I actually have a buy order around 21500 zone though on spot. I've set orders on some alts also such as sylo, XRP and ASTO

>> No.55919956

>BTC at 100k

Biggest bulltrap i've ever seen
Still short and strong
$12k is programed , in two weeks

>> No.55919963
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>>55917661
>bumps into gensler at the local synagogue
>gets BTC ETF approved in one day
>prints 7,986,528,390,176 paper bitcoins
Nothing personel kid

>> No.55919975

>>55919473
That's the fucking truth fr, like bruhhh I'm tired of all these fluctuations BTC is doing, toiling with my intelligence ffs, can I just see my grabs on Ride, Metis, and Qwt move on the the high ends already it's draining.

>> No.55920006

B-B-BUT A BUNCH OF FAGGOTS ON 4CHAN KEEP SPAMMING PICTURES OF A CARTOON BEAR! THAT MEANS ITS GOING TO DUMP!

>> No.55920435

>>55919394
>OFC THEY NEED TO HAVE FUCKING BTC TO SELL TO THE BOOMERS
Who said that they need to have it? It's not a security, doesn't really need to have proof of purchase.

>> No.55920474

$10k and $12k are just memes on biz, just ignore them. It was simply from desperate bears during the '22 crash begging and pleading for it to happen because the perfect storm of fud happened that year. You know what actually happened instead?
> It went down to $15k which ultimately kickstarted another runup from slurpers, thereby leaving stupid bobos behind.
I think it's a given now that you shouldn't listen to neither Bobos nor Mumus on this board, they're simply larping their true selves waiting to bait the next retard to either pump or dump depending on their larp trap.

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>>55917661
Okokok you got me, it's not going to 12k, it's only going to 16k. You win.

>> No.55922072

>>55919598
Yet they won't succeed because they won't buy now... Do they deserve their cursed fate?

>> No.55922351

>>55917661
The price of Bitcoin will eventually stabilize like gold. Everyone who wants Bitcoin will have Bitcoin and there will be nobody else to buy it at a higher price and holders won't want to sell it at a lower price.

This is how price discovery works.

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>>55917661
Bitcoin will go to 0 without drivechains

>> No.55923137

Guys, here is your come to Jesus moment.

The fundamentals do not matter, and Fed policy is entirely geared around halting inflation and pumping this market. 2024 is guaranteed to be a melt-your-face-off bull run. No way do they let the market tank in an election year, absolutely no way.

Fall is your last chance to load up on everything before a moon mission for the ages.

>> No.55923186

>>55922998
BTC is the drivechain itself because you can hold it, trade it, spend it through CryptMi gateway or build on its network.

>> No.55923290

>>55923186
How do you build on its network? Bitcoin only has federated sidechains like Liquid and Rootstock and those don't even use BTC, they have a token. We need actual sidechains on bitcoin

>> No.55923425

>>55917661
>new strain of covid resulting in shutdowns and mandates
>high interest rates start kicking into economy
>liquidity drying up, affecting risk assets (crypto) most
>historic cycles have bitcoin moving down during the fall & winter months before the halving

Yeah, go ahead and buy so I can short some more.

>> No.55923714

>>55918329
I fear you might be right.

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>>55918117
>Kek midwit fed doesnt matter only the cycle matters
okay dimwit

>> No.55923819

>>55922998
Drivechains were suppressed as an idea during the blocksize wars because the idea gets rid of absolutely ANY excuse for bigger blocks because you can just have a bloated centralized as fuck glow nigger data center cuck chain as a drive chain that people can use to buy their soi milk lattes whilst keeping the base chain lean, agile and as self hostable as possible.
Literally the solution that should of satisfied both sides.
That being said you can do all of that shit on top of lightning anyway so if we never get drivechains it will literally be a nothing burger.

>> No.55923906

>>55917661
They should be sitting on 3X short positions if they honestly believe this. Hedge them if needed.

>> No.55924219
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>>55923819
Lightning is just a small extension of Bitcoin as a bank. Bitcoin can be more than just a bank. Sidechains can be anything you want, like a prediction market or BitDNS

>> No.55924289

>>55917661
So 93% of all bitcoin is just sitting in wallets ready to sell and only 6.3% of total amount of bitcoin is available to buy? How is that statistic at all positive? The selloff hasn't even started it seems. See ya sub-10k.

>> No.55924308

>>55924289
mined doesn't mean bought

>> No.55924422

>bitniggers think global financial institution and central banks will use LN and pump their nigger coin to hundreds of trillions, far above nostro vostro
Fucking kek

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>>55924422
Literally the only hope for hyperbitcoinization is Drivechain

>> No.55924813

>>55919891
Mask mandates are already coming back as new virus is out breaking now. Cope

>> No.55925532

>>55924813
Oh god where

>> No.55925559

>>55924289
Because no one wants to sell until the price is much higher.

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>>55917764

>> No.55925917

>>55923290
>How do you build on its network?
Bitcoin= Blockchain. Bitpay, Alchemy Pay, Binance pay, CryptMi, Wirex were all built on the tents of lightening network from Bitcoin. Learn hyperbitcoinization.

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>>55925917
What if i want to build something else on Bitcoin? You're talking about ways of sending L1 bitcoin. I want Hivemind and BitDNS which are entire blockchain systems that will use bitcoin as the unit of account

>> No.55926009

>>55924813
Mask mandates are bullish for bitcoin. Literally the more dystopian they get, the more bullish for bitcoin.

>> No.55926257

Not a bear though, i am so bullish on bitcion and the next bitcion run will be so massive and some of the alt coin bullish on are ethereum and $xdefi coin because of low supply and they have a working products that supports over 30 blockchains

>> No.55926289

>>55918244
Checked. Crypto is fiat with extra steps. Bitcoin is the first time humans have achieved digital scarcity and an opportunity to see Austrian economics in practice. It may be worthless to you and that's perfectly acceptable, value is subjective after all.

>> No.55926316

>>55919394
boomer goes to FTX
boomer goes to Binance
>I want to buy le btc on Ethereum
>FTX/Binance: sure, here we go fren
And that's how you get WBTC

It's the same thing with ETFs. Blackrock or whoever gives you a ticket for 1 BTC (non-redeemable). They don't cover 1/1 lol

>you do not own the underlying crypto asset when purchasing or selling futures. Instead, you possess a contract that promises to buy or sell cryptocurrency at some point in the future.

>> No.55926322

>>55917661
any jackass can draw some boxes over BTC price chart and say the next bull/bear run is coming. looks good until it breaks. none of them have ever held. there's no TA to do on crypto. and if you think there is, you are no better than women who believe in astrology.

>> No.55926640

>>55917661
Bitcoin's price will find its groove, like gold. Those after Bitcoin and the zoomers miss the altcoin quick gains. No wonder Peaqnetwork's bringing Tesla to spotlight the big deal EconomyofThings is for businesses

>> No.55926806

>>55917661
It will do the opposite and shoot upwards a few months before the next halving.

>> No.55927322

>>55917661
BUY SIGNAL CHUDS! Slurp more RAIL and CTSI for that easy 20x.

>> No.55927971

>>55923137
>No way do they let the market tank in an election year, absolutely no way
>2008

>> No.55928002

>>55922072
>.. Do they deserve their cursed fate?

Definitely! Any sane person should be bullish on Bitcoin atm considering the halving is so close and also there are tons of prmising alts which could benefit from this as well one of which is CYMI.