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HERE COMES THE BOOM

HERE COMES THE BOOOOOOOOM

>> No.55799543

Poor treasury hodlers the next play is hair cut

>> No.55799594

>>55799543
wait until they are forced to unlock mortgagoids fixed rates

>> No.55799614
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>>55799528
its over

>> No.55799615

>>55799594
>they'll just destroy the lending market by unilaterally changing contracts
Lol yeah, hold your breath on that one. Nobody is that retarded.

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>>55799528
Boom! Boom! Boom!

>> No.55799626

>>55799528
Excellent, right on schedule.

>> No.55799646

>>55799594
One or another way it's going to be violent, as neither the climate crap, coof reheating, nigger stuff, machine learning bullshit fear campaigns catch on. Everyone is aware and those really aware are going to take up arms this time.

>> No.55799680

>>55799615
>banks have never done anything like that in history, goy!

>> No.55799687

>>55799626
>right on schedule
https://youtu.be/MkzO6DbDh0Q?t=430

>> No.55799695

>>55799528
controversial take: this just makes government issue debt ever faster, borrowing money into existence from thin air which eventually the FED will have to monetize, and this will simply make stocks continue going up forever but at a faster rate

>> No.55799704

>>55799695
>Buy my bags
>Pivooooooot
Lol

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>>55799625
Nice.

>> No.55800031

>>55799528
>a trillion dollars
That used to be a lot of money back then.

>> No.55800053

>>55799594
>>55799615
This would definitely happen if hyperinflation actually took place. Anyone who disagrees is retarded.

The good news is hyperinflation will never happen in the US.

>> No.55800154

>>55799646
rofl imagine if they tried another bank bailout right now.

>> No.55800175

>>55800154
>tried
They have an open credit line right now for the feds to buy bags from the banks left holding low interest treasuries.

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>>55800175
I remember SVB

>> No.55800222

>>55799528
The economy is stronger than ever, Chud.
Bidenomics work.

>> No.55800333

>>55800175
As the other anon says, they have an open credit line, the only reason for the retard run in equities after May. But if they try something real, like 0 capital requirements for banks or straight out public guaranteed loans, the real economy is going to crack in real time, with inflation going hyper in an instant and unemployment going to dangerous levels. I hoped for stagflation but its likely not going to happen without depression and public unrests in the wake of security forces not being able to fill their quotas.

I for my part are going to use the Anarchy that results from such a phenomen to hunt marxists in administration, politics, education and civil society

>> No.55800373

>>55800333
checked

>> No.55800390

>>55799594
wait until property taxes causes liquidations

>> No.55800409

>>55800333

We are going to have a great depression 2.0 anon. Obviously we are going to have WW3 within a decade to get us out of this great depression 2.0.

>> No.55800445

>>55800409
If there were competent actors in decision making positions I wouldn't be the slighest worried, but there aren't. The Ukrainian farce was likely an attempt to create such a hurray patriotism to kick start WW3 but it failed. The q-marxist plan from the 1970s when shit of the pyramid scheme would eventually hit the fan doesn't work out, and like qtards, they just keep following a plan that already failed.

By their timeline the world should already be in international Socialist dictatorship, but we aren't, it's unknown territory with outcomes unpredictable except a further demographic decline

>> No.55800497

>>55800409
How could there be a ww3? Nobody wants to fight anymore. They will never choose deflation, always obscured inflation

>> No.55800513

>>55800497
It's not about chosing a deflationary economic environment, that's something that just happens naturally. The marxists are going to learn the hard way that no matter how much information one has, one can never plan an economy

>> No.55800544

>>55800513
https://crookedtimber.org/2012/05/30/in-soviet-union-optimization-problem-solves-you/
Text related
jusqu'ici tout va bien, jusqu'ici tout va bien. And then the body hit the floor

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>>55799528
BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! BOOM!

>> No.55800569

>>55800513
you can’t have deflation of a totally depegged from reality fiat currency where the printer is free to do as he wishes

>> No.55800576

>>55800569
I'm not talking about fiat. I'm talking about real capital

>> No.55800605

>>55800576
it’s a fiat based system though so that’s irrelevant

>> No.55800623

>>55800497
This retard thinks Ukrainians wanted war

War means the 0.1% pay the 1% to shoot you or your family unless you carry a gun pointed in that direction and sing patriotic songs while doing as they say

>> No.55800635

>>55800390
It’s an under-appreciated factor for sure. It’s not uncommon where I live for property taxes alone to now exceed $12,000 a year on average middle class homes that have basically tripled in value in the last 10 years. It’s insane how quickly that adds up.

>> No.55800661

>>55800605
Really? Check china they print and print and pivot and stimulate and yet, pmis dead, utilization dead, unemployment despite demographic decline skyrocketing.
l'important n’est pas la chute, c’est l’atterrissage.

>> No.55800697

>>55800390
It's already causing a panic where I am. Projected 30-50% increases in taxes for most in the state

>> No.55800855

>>55799646
You won't do shit
>Jan 6 retards 900 in prison already
>4chan chud making death threats to a cop? Get humiliated online and thrown in prison
>Biden being threatened? Fuck around and find out the FBI will put a bullet to ya

>> No.55800899

>>55800855
I'm not an American if that wasn't obvious already, and I'm already doing shit, mostly empirical statistics on security forces response times. But it's not like the phenomenon is only happening in China or to a certain degree Europe it's world wide, the result of mindless international socialization of capital risk.

>> No.55801123

>>55800855
I didn't even read your post and stopped at Jan6
To summarize your retardation
>Be afraid goy
Lol no. Not when the average response time to a small explosion with no human casualties went from 4 cops in 15 minutes up to 3 copes in 30 minutes

>> No.55801572

>>55799695
Yes thats obviously whats happening

>> No.55801590

>>55799528

Nothing ever happens.

>> No.55801844

>>55799528
This is the crack up boom you’re suggesting anon? How do I cover my ass?

>> No.55802036

>>55799695
>stocks continue going up
What you are describing is hyperinflation. Once hyperinflation sets in, the real value of all paper assets goes to zero, the only thing that retains value is real things. In Venezuela the stock market went up 6 gorillion percent but the stock holders were effectively wiped out in purchasing power.

>> No.55802063

>>55799528
YALL DON'T REALLY WANT IT NOW

>> No.55802958

>printing more money will make money worth more
The absolute state of shitcoiners.

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>>55801590
I'm afraid, with narratives and memes you stole from me, this ain't going to be solved. time to look for a real job, government job axing coming in

>> No.55803518

Lol so many idiots capitalizing Fed in here. How can I take your dumb economic comments seriously when you don't even know how to use basic words?

>> No.55803565

>>55801123
>Not when the average response time to a small explosion with no human casualties went from 4 cops in 15 minutes up to 3 copes in 30 minutes
Interesting data. Big city?

>> No.55803609

>>55800333
Deflation is the only serious solution

>> No.55803693

>>55800855
post your hook nose, jewy jewington

>> No.55803698

>>55800053
>will never happen
based on what. are they willing to save the currency?
what about when the debt interest exceeds the tax revenue and they have to choose between default or money printing?

>> No.55803702

>>55799615
Malta raided their citizens retirement accounts anon; don’t be so sure.

>> No.55803751

>>55800409
>We are going to have a great depression 2.0 anon

that already happened in the post 9/11 depression; and the 2008 depression.
inflation has been a crooked number since they changed the calculation in the late 1980s because:
'inflation seems high'.
once you realize they have been drastically under reporting inflation for 30 years and over reporting GDP growth. well then you get an idea of how big some of the depressions in the 2000s have truly been.
the depression in the 1930s is nothing compared to the economic system millennials and zoomers and gen alphies have to deal with

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>>55800333
>I for my part are going to use the Anarchy that results from such a phenomen to hunt marxists in administration, politics, education and civil society
Checked. But don't make a girl a promise if you know you're not going to keep it.

>> No.55803777

>>55800445
>The Ukrainian farce was likely an attempt to create such a hurray patriotism to kick start WW3 but it failed

draft all boomers to fight in Ukraine and take their boomers houses if they refuse.
people without assets can't be forced to fight as it's to easy to run away.
but a boomer...
he can't leave his boomer house. not after bitching about the real estate market for years. and he can't sell it quickly for cash as he wouldn't get market value. boomers love talking to other boomers about how high they sell things for and how low they buy them.
so draft boomers for the coming wars

>> No.55803794

>>55800497
>How could there be a ww3? Nobody wants to fight anymore
>>55803777
see my post.
they will draft boomers. they dodged vietnam like pussies. then were warhawks on every conflict they didn't fight it.
it is the ultimate karma to force them to fight. and it would solve the retirement bubble too.
don't forget occultrock just had the biggest losing quarter in history

>> No.55803805

>>55800333
>I for my part are going to use the Anarchy that results from such a phenomen to hunt marxists in administration, politics, education and civil society

hunt orcs, hook noses and foreign invaders

>> No.55803821

>>55801123
>>Be afraid goy
>Lol no. Not when the average response time to a small explosion with no human casualties went from 4 cops in 15 minutes up to 3 copes in 30 minutes

based. what will synagoes do?

>> No.55803832

>>55803762
when the response time becomes 45 minutes and 2 cops, its hunting time
>>55803777
Good luck. The plan might be to draft zoomers, alpha and the imports, I expect civil war, chimp outs and anarchy rather than real world war waged by western nations. Though I see an Asian world war, free for all carving up china
>>55803805
There are already enough people in this country that are ready to become remigration death squads, I'm going for the responsible parties in the background, putting that knowledge about polity into effect

>> No.55803848

>>55803702
>Malta raided their citizens retirement accounts anon; don’t be so sure.

this. after boomers turned on everyone and went along with all the scamflu crap they have served their last purpose.
hook noses will betray them as they betray everyone.
sorry boomer, no wine drinking into the sunset

>> No.55803864

>>55799594
that would destroy the us economy for the next 100 years lmao that will never happen, all their going to do is just hyperinflate everyone's debt away

>> No.55803897

>>55803864
you ponzi brainwashed fools. Pumping a dead economy with no real capital and no real demand full of currency is not helping. The very least (((inflating debt away)))

>> No.55803915

>>55800623
This ain't the 30's or the 2000's. Nobody will fight in a gay war buckaroo.

>> No.55803988

>>55803565
Probably in Europe where the police are waiting on trains

>> No.55804193

you can tell the hook noses are trying to condition normies for a big war with all the talk about muh Ukraine and Taiwan and et cetera.
how do they plan to fight a war without an industrial base.
if most production is outside of the country; how do you expect to rebuild all the tanks, planes, boats, missiles and et cetera.
and of course we have all been saying young Caucasians won't be fighting for this society as we know it is an enemy.
you can use the orcs for the first wave. then draft boomers for the 2nd. after that what can you do?

>> No.55804358

>>55803864
>that would destroy the us economy for the next 100 years lmao

have you seen any boomers or hook noses think about or care about the long term?

>> No.55804363

>>55803751
>the depression in the 1930s is nothing compared to the economic system millennials and zoomers and gen alphies have to deal with

yeah, by all accounts it seems like the depression was only bad in the early 1930s. Towards the middle and end of the 30s things had stabilized and somewhat gone back to normal. Plus you could at least drink again

>> No.55804365

>>55804193
As a young white man I will take prison over fighting.

>> No.55804421

>>55804365
>t. Chang

>> No.55804488

>>55804421
>t. kike

>> No.55804661

>>55800333
two more weeks

>> No.55804715

>>55803777
deranged, pathetic millennial revenge fantasy

>> No.55804850

>>55799528
a small price to pay to promote intergalactic sodomy

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>>55804850

>> No.55804987

>>55800497
>>55803915
You faggots saw how everyone was brainwashed with the coof and how the ukro propaganda has redditor volunteers and you think it won’t work for ww3? 40% of zoomers identify as gay, making them identify as patriots will be a walk in the park

>> No.55805012

>>55804715
Can you blame them? Boomers and genx robbed them in 2000, 2008, 2015, 2020, and now 2023/4

>> No.55805395

>>55803864
The US is already destroyed for the next 100 years. Everyone is fighting over the loot debris before it all goes up in flames.

>> No.55805405

>>55804987
Have you never been to /seen pictures of a Reddit meetup?
None of those people are fighting wars unless it's a war over cheese cake.

>> No.55805718

>>55804488
based and witnessed. i would rather be ruled by muh russians, muh Chinese or muh germans and muh japs than hook noses.
satan's chosen people destroy everyone and everything

>> No.55805734

>>55800222
If the economy is great, then why are tax receipts down?

>> No.55805741

>>55805405
one thing i have learned working for years at different businesses and being a customer of different businesses for years:
quality and merit don't matter in the west.
soi bois, boomers and all other establishment scum are out of shape and stupid.
but so what? the hook noses don't care if they die in waves in Ukraine. they think they will just get more draftees.
it's good to know our enemies will be the ones fighting and dying

>> No.55805825

>>55804421
No chinaman or Russian ever told me I was the source of all my nations problems and actively discriminated against me from employment or schooling. My enemy is in Washington DC, New York City, San Francisco and Seattle.

>> No.55805847

>>55799528
What if the US just defaults and threatens anyone who complains or tries to collect with our giant nuclear weapon dick

>> No.55805863

>>55805825
FACT: if you’re white the United States government hates you far more than China, Russia or Iran. Do not fall for there ra ra patriotic bullshit, they will temporarily kibosh the woke bs and try and entice your patriotic spirit. Do not fall for it white man

>> No.55805906

>>55805825
I hate my incompetent leadership but when the question comes to fuck up communists chinks I'm riding with Biden or rather the guys in the Pentagon calling the shots. The Russia shit was retarded and whoever signed off on it deserves to be beaten. Couldn't they use another shithole as weapon distribution hub, like Lybia or Israel

>> No.55805915

>>55805906
Have fun dying for Jews who hate you retard.

>> No.55805939

>>55805825
get this man a burger king crown. we have a based king on the board. watch out, he might shout niggers at orcs chimping out on a plane and sitting in the seats of others

>> No.55805945

>>55800053
and in other news, the titanic is an unsinkable ship

>> No.55806052

>>55800409
this will be a great GLOBAL depression

war is not an option, there will be Famine.

>> No.55806157

>>55800623
the vietnam war already showed the folly of that proposition as the people werent pointing a gun in the desired direction but instead were killing their own officers like it was running out of style
in this environment you would get so much sabotage and friendly fire, i know for a fact the moment they draft me and i get on base when i get a loaded rifle i am going out trying to hit the people actually getting me killed not some equally poor fucker in the other trench

>> No.55806228

>>55806052
What if we just eat the rich people

>> No.55806273

>>55803897
Of course it's not helping, there is no salvaging the fiat death system. But I am holding real assets and my debts will practically disappear, you want to act from a position of power when we inevitably shift to another economic system

>> No.55806461

>>55806273
Fiat on its own is no problem, the managing of a fiat system is
>Different economic system
Aha. Kalergie plan and intsoc retardation failed

>> No.55806908

>>55800390
My coworker (60-65 y/o biotech engineer) mentioned to me while discussing housing prices in our town that he had to start helping his granddaughter (I think or daughter) pay her property tax. They just closed on a house a few months ago, 700k in a town where houses used to generally be around 300-450 depending. Now her property tax is close to $1200 a month. They were completely unprepared for this and quite literally would be foreclosed on if the boomer didn’t pay it.

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>>55799594
Imagine not being on the same side of the debt trade as zog.

>> No.55806934

>>55806228
Rich people are more likely to eat peasants like you lmao

>> No.55807086

>>55806934
Depends.. if they are some public officials or public subsidized leeches like journalists and "ngo" members that became fat by robbing future tax payers, chances are higher that peasants are just going to hang them from the tractors and let the birds feed on them, or them being beaten to dead in the streets and dogs ripping their bodies apart

>> No.55807145

>>55807086

No, it'll happen the same way it always has throughout history and continues to do so to this day. The rich will manipulate the middle-class and poor into hating and killing each other. Your "revolution" is a controlled demolition.

>> No.55807215

>>55807145
There is no middle class. That got robbed over the past 40 years by socialists and jews. And looking at countries like the Netherlands, Belgium and certain parts of France farmers are not far from hanging socialists from tractors, of course about such occurrences the (((news))) doesn't report

>> No.55807228

>>55807215
And thinking about it, even in countries like Germany and Austria, socialists can't go to public venues anymore without massive police protection or they would be hanged. And in Germany according to the newest police reports on political violence, its not the AfD who is most attacked, its the socialists. Over the past year 5000 attacks on socialist party bureaus and against socialist politicians

>> No.55807245

>>55799646
Take up arms against who? Themselves? They do it to themselves lol keep blaming the invisible man or the government. It's you. Look in the mirror. You are responsible because you don't care. You can fix this country if you and your neighbor just get on the same page. No violence needed. The people in charge of the economy and govt are soft af. You just happen to be softer. Taking up arms won't change that bruh

>> No.55807312

>>55807245
Primarily propagandists (jewrnalists) and politicians, "experts", the entire Gramscian "intellectual" (((opinion leaders)))

>> No.55807345

>>55807312
I remember an article from a small opposition blog with a video where one of the coof experts was at a lake and got chased away by an angry mob that nearly lynched him

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>>55799528
OP doesn't understand exponential plots.
Pic related - take the data from 1950 to 1985 and fit it to the same scale plot, and it looks exactly the same.
There is nothing abnormal about the current trend. Its been this way for decades.

>> No.55807517

>>55800390
My parents little poodump house got a massive tax raise. As did the entire neighborhood. Its gonna rinse a lot of people.

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>>55799528
That isnt on outstanding treasury debt. its at 650 billion right now. That chart also has pension payments, intra governmental spending and other internal things which arent obligations to debt payments really. Its circular funding by government entities.

>> No.55807548

>>55807403
They could've said the same thing in 1922 about 1919 too, and it'd have even been true.

>> No.55807890

>>55800497
>How could there be a ww3? Nobody wants to fight anymore.
Demographics haven't become an issue such (YET) that fighting wars becomes pretty much unfeasible. In fact, I believe Ukraine happened now and not later because they know the clock's ticking and they can't wage wars with sexagenarians.
Some techfag would then say that all it takes is replace flesh-and-bones soldiers with robots, but that's a hard argument to defend because 1) they have to be cheap enough to be mass-produced, which is not the case right now; and 2) demographics will also make it harder, and harder, to mass-produce these, unless they automate the entire process thoroughly.
Therefore, I believe this decade, and maybe the first half of the 2030 decade, is going to be quite bloody.

>> No.55807901

>>55806917
THIS LMFAO

>> No.55808020

>>55805939
>>55805906
CIA found the thread. Shut it down.

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>>55805863

>> No.55808101

>>55807403
The difference now is that tax revenue is not growing at the same ratio as debt interest expense; the interest payments are growing exponentially faster than revenue. Tax receipts are what guarantee the government’s loans. Imagine going to a bank for a very large loan and they see that half of your income is going to service interest on debt you already have, would they think you’re a good person to lend to? At our current pace it’s only a few more years before interest payments are equal to revenue at which point it really is game over, we’ll be like Greece or Turkey or Argentina except we’re not a small irrelevant country that can get bailed out and restructured. No foreign nation is going to buy all our debt and impose austerity, it’s just going to be rapid runaway inflation as the debt payments are covered by more debt.

>> No.55808136

>>55808101
The solution is war on China

>> No.55808147

>>55808020
This guy has other based posts you misunderstood him >>55805939

This guy is 100% a faggot glowie
>>55805906

>> No.55808169

>>55805906
>he capitalized isreal

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>>55805906

>> No.55808258

>>55799594
Lol at all the hoomers seething at this post
You can smell the fear a mile away

>> No.55808283

>>55799594

That won't happen. Housing market will go the moon.

>> No.55808386

>>55807544
Whatever you just said is completely wrong, that chart is purely interest payments on the debt.

>> No.55808531

>>55805906
>proper capitalization of several words
>kissing the shoe for israel and any patriotism whatsoever
c’mon this is bait, right?

>> No.55808561

>>55808386
No it isnt. Debt payment sis 650 billion. That chart is debt payments plus internal government debt payments to other entities including pensions for gov employees. Meaning that money isnt actually needed every year desu since most pensions arent collected until a certain date. you can easily defer a ton of it for instance. The debt payments is 650 billion.

>> No.55808636

>>55800154
they actually have been doing this for the past year. Its stealth QE via this thing called the "discount window". Like the other anon said this is just another more stealthy way of the fed bailing out banks without increasing the M2 money supply.

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>>55799543
Did someone say haircut?