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>> No.55694608

>>55694584
Don't tell bobo.

>> No.55694611

The rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer

So yes I can see this happening

>> No.55694612

>>55694584
>>55694584
>Our globoponzi will go on forever!

>> No.55694626

>>55694612
All this means is the us dollar is losing purchasing power year after year so yes it's reasonable to assume this could happen. Why would the us dollar regain purchasing power?

>> No.55694629

>>55694612
>Yes the chart has been repeating patterns for 100 years but this time it’s different

>> No.55694640

>>55694584
I wish. Unfortunately when the fed cuts rates market go downtown.

>> No.55694656

>>55694584
No way, more people on Earth means more investments in the most popular fund?! What's next, BTC worth $1 million?

>> No.55694665

>>55694584
all that represents is the decrease in the purchasing power of the dollar. Nothing more. Anyone who disagrees is a fucking moron. That being said the chart is accurate.

>> No.55694778

>>55694626
The trend is designed so it won't regain purchasing power, but this memeconomy can only go on so long.

>> No.55694804

>>55694629
>yes charts repeat patterns and must follow them this is no coincidence or confirmation bias I also suck huge cock and are gay as fuck

>> No.55694967
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55694967

>>55694804
it's controlled

>> No.55697001

>>55694778
It's not designed in any certain way it's just that more dollars get printed every year and the real world value of multibillion dollar companies goes up every year. Measure the S&P against bitcoin instead and just use bitcoin as your new stablecoin.

>> No.55697016

>>55694584
yes, put everything you own into the market. We're definitely not on the cusp of a great crash. It's only up

>> No.55697245
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55697245

>>55694626

>> No.55697312

>>55694611
>the poor will get poorer

not really trannoid, automation makes everything cheaper over time, who the fuck is starving to death in the west?

>> No.55697322

>>55697312
more like eating to death

>> No.55697362

>>55694778
>only so long
what's long? does a 100 year sound long to you?
Cause we aboutta go into the biggest, most massive, most awesome bullmarket that humankind has ever seen.
Bitcoin of course will hit like a million, which is technically not even THAT impressive.

>> No.55697368

>>55697245
U don't get access to that just by holding usd lol this is like when someone says I should buy some random token because the dev has a good product but doesn't know anything about tokenomics. With bitcoin there is a max amount of people who can hold a certain amount of bitcoin and that will never change. Bitcoin is more stable in the long run as a wealth asset - ANYTHING is more stable in the long run as a wealth asset. The us dollar has literally only gone down in value since it was created so if u just hold 100k usd for 20 years what makes you think you're going to be able to buy more then than you can now? The only way it makes sense to hold cash is if stocks are overbought and are about to crash, and then it ONLY makes sense because that way you get to buy MORE stocks.

>> No.55697383

>>55694626
the usd has gained purchasing power against every other currency in the past 2 yrs
if you wanna be a tranny just get inflation bonds

>> No.55697431

>>55694584
>graph astrology

>> No.55697477
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55697477

>>55697383
>2 year timeframe

>> No.55697488

>>55694612
Umm, yes?

>> No.55697510

>>55697312
let me guess, you love to consoooome the latest chinese crap

>> No.55697833

>>55694584
and there are people who use historic average to argue we are way way overvalued right now despite coming out of a 17 year crab market
but dont be too mistaken the majority of gains in this chart is dollar depreciation, however if you dont play along you lose even more

>> No.55697849

>>55694612
literally yes tho

>> No.55697872

>RBC

>> No.55697899
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55697899

>>55694584
Maybe, the MM are obviously drawing bullish patterns with their algorithms. I’ve been watching the charts and the algos have been using a buying continuation pattern for two straight months since the debt ceiling was raised

>> No.55697919

>>55694612
As long as humans exist, yes.

>> No.55697923

>>55697833
>however if you dont play along
So to play along, invest in VOO with every penny I have?

>> No.55697924
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55697924

>>55694584
Nope. It was build on taking on more and more debt
Thats over

>> No.55697941

>>55697899
If the MM are drawing bullish patterns why would they make it go up? Wouldn't that just be obvious? Wouldn't it make you money? How do the market makers disproportionately benefit by making obvious patterns and having them play out the way you (retail) would expect?

>> No.55697960
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55697960

>>55694612
>I'm sure the oligarchs will stop debasing, 2 more weeks, trust the plan!
---m2
1970: $0.5T
1980: $1.5T
2000: $4.5T
2020: $15T
2023 $20.8T

---mspus (median sales price of US houses sold)
1970: $24k
1980: $64k
2000: $165k
2020: $329k
2023: $436k

r2: 0.98 (!!!!!!)

The fiat grift requires continued and ongoing debasement to function, Jay the Faggot will do a Volcker, and by that of course I mean manipulate inflation and money stock statistics to paint a rosier picture than reality, actual inflation has been 5-10% per annum since the '80s, as evidentiary by the price of everything from hamburgers to houses. The only thing that would stay the oligarchy's hand away from further debasement is a mass secessio plebis, but workers have shown time and time again that as long as they have their goyslop and their blue cat people fucking whales in IMAX they'll happily continue to take it up the ass. Never forget what debasement is: a parasitic transfer of resources from income earners to oligarchs via asset inflation

>> No.55697971
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55697971

>>55697383
4 years

>> No.55697972
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55697972

>>55697941
A lot of the upward momentum was caused by short squeezes because the fed scared hedgies into thinking we were on the cusp of a recession.

However notice the rhetoric of “mild recession” correlates with the approaching handle on the cup pattern? So we fall for a couple months, everyone thinks the sky is falling and then back up we go

>> No.55697991

>>55697923
>VOO
thats the baseline, try picking tech stocks and cryptos to outperform the very basic gains

>> No.55698069

>>55697971
>>55697941
>>55697477
>>55697368
>>55697001
>>55694626
You will never be a woman

>> No.55698077

>>55697960
The population also kept rising, so printing money wasnt that big of a deal
In 1990 the US had 2 million more births than death, now its close to keeling negative
Thats also over >>55697924

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55698119

>>55697383
zoom out

>> No.55698256

>>55698077
>the theft was masked by secular growth so it was OK! :^)
Money is not special little statist, debasement is always and only a parasitic transfer of resources from income earners to asset holders

>> No.55698287
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55698287

>>55694612
>Our globoponzi will go on forever!
Exactly. It's all just a deceptive numbers game.

>> No.55698364

>>55694626
measure it in gold terms than tard

>> No.55698405
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55698405

>>55698069
Already am one~ just gonna get even girlier once I get ffs clavicle shortening and bodyfem uwu in fact my body fem is in 11 days!
>>55698364
Gold is a meme bitcoin is just gold but better

>> No.55698624

>>55698405
that's a man

>> No.55698631
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55698631

>>55698624
that's a woman :/

>> No.55698639
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55698639

>>55694584
>HOLY FUCK

>> No.55698660

>>55698631
sorry if it wasn't clear, I was saying that the subject of the image in your previous post (image id 1690660289148988) is in fact, a biological male.

>> No.55698749
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55698749

>>55698660
In what sense? Her hormones are biologically female. Her chromosomes are male I guess but you can't tell what someone's chromosomes are just by looking at them especially if they have a rare disorder so do they really matter? Is it her girldick? X3 she loves her girldick and if that makes her a man then so be it, but again randos on the street are never gonna see that anyway so how can you tell if a passing tranny is biologically male? Does it matter? Why?

>> No.55698759

>>55698749
Its very obvious, thats a man.

>> No.55698777
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55698777

>>55698759
Ok lol

>> No.55698838

>>55698749
men shouldn't act like faggots that's why

>> No.55698857

>>55698405
Lmao I knew it was a tranny

>> No.55698899

>>55698777
Yes, tranny
Now stop shitting up the thread

>> No.55698907

>>55698405
Post twitter

>> No.55699022
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55699022

>>55698838
I actually agree so hard I hate faggots like nothing else look at picrel. So that's why I became a girl instead! uwu

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55699088

>>55699022
>faggot thinks he found a loophole

>> No.55699210

>>55698749
Americans and right wingers are obsessed with trans women to the point they are probably like that homophobic nazi in American Beauty

>> No.55699353

>>55697924
Hahaha no

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55699401

>>55699353
Cope

>> No.55699416

>>55698405
Well your bathroom is a fucking mess, like everyone other girl I know

>> No.55699430

>>55698749
And you’re a nazi? You know you’re the first demographic they’re coming after?

>> No.55699537

>>55694584
based America

>> No.55699561

>>55699416
uwu thankuuuu total girl moment X3
>>55699430
Yeah I am a nazi what about it. Transgender is a mental disorder. I know they want to get rid of it via eugenics which is based.

>> No.55699615

>>55694612
Yes.

>> No.55699626

>>55694584
It will crash first. The revenue these corporations are pulling is unsustainable and they are already starting to buckle.

>> No.55699716

>>55697960
STFU Bitcoin nigger. The fiat money system we have is one of the most ingenious things ever designed in finance. Carefully controlling the money supply to promote growth has created more wealth and prosperity than anything else in history.

Problems arise when bad actors maliciously use the monetary system to parasitize wealth out of the system. The system has become very corrupt because bad actors have greedily conspired to milk it to get rich. It wasn't designed that way though and its nature isn't to make people poor. Quite the opposite actually.

I'm so sick of hearing this uneducated lolbert Bitcoin-nigger nonsense about fiat money and the federal reserve system. "Money printing" and "debasement" are dumb narratives that gold salesmen and Bitcoin niggers promote to get idiots to buy their bags. That's not how the system actually works.

>> No.55699799

"Money printing" is the financial equivalent to nonsense about lost ancient civilizations or zero point energy. It's pseudointellectual drivel sold to uneducated normies to get them to buy some grifter's crap. It falls into the same bucket as other conspiritard garbage that has no place in serious discourse.

If you want to learn how the Federal Reserve system works, go read a book about economics. Don't let some grifter like Peter Schiff or Max Keiser be your source for this stuff. Don't rely on people who get around in conspiracy theory circles and other grifts for your education about serious topics. You will sound like an idiot if that is your main source of information.

>> No.55699839

>>55699799
You seem mad for someone who believes their position is supposed to be the most sensible

>> No.55699866
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55699866

>>55699716
>Carefully controlling the money supply
lol

>> No.55700196

>>55697923
Why voo? Why not TQQQ?

>> No.55700240

>>55699716
>system is built to steal wealth through inflation and manufactured boom bust cycles
>the creatures in control of the system use it to steal wealth since it was instantiated
>anon says its designed to steal
>NOOOOOooOOOOOoooOoo!!! =,(
>ITS NOT DESIGNED FOR THAT!!!
You creatures are so fucking retarded

>> No.55700597

>>55694584
90% of gains are due to inflation. That's a fact. So of course will it go up that high.

>> No.55701177

>>55699716
Since the 70s when money became pure fiat literally nothing improved. The only places in that period that saw improvement were former eastern block countries after the fall of the wall that were ran by an even more retarded system.

We are paying more than a half of what we earn to pedophiles so that they can run the economy and all they do is make it worse and inefficient.

>> No.55701192

>>55694626
>>55694612
why won't burgers just "burn" it after each transaction?

>> No.55701193

>>55694967
You are controlled by Jewish freak niggers (you also are one retard) plus you're gay

>> No.55701226

bitcoin will steal all liquidity, yes stocks may go up but only because dollar is failing, then you will need to compare stocks vs btc, and you'll see that it will be harder to generate wealth. working will be a better way to become wealthier instead of investing probably.

>> No.55701413

>>55699716
>system devised with fatal flaw
>flaw being exploited
>i-it's actually w-well designed

>> No.55701948

>>55694584
> infinite money printing.....
yes, but it will probably buy you less groceries or gold

>> No.55701986

>>55694626
Everyone is forced to participate in this scheme. If you don't, you simply lose purchasing power. It is all ROI vs risk. Don't play the game, don't get ROI but you still get the risk (inflation). The growth at the top is due to the drain at the bottom as well as the leeching of off innovations which would have been deflationary.

>> No.55701993

>>55699716
>Problems arise when bad actors maliciously use the monetary system to parasitize wealth out of the system.
That is not a bug, but a feature you absolute moron.

>> No.55702025

>>55699716
most retarded post I've read in 2023

>> No.55702574

>>55699716
what a little democrat opinion piece.

"X is best thing ever, the only problem is when it's misused [when it's not real X, real X has never been achieved]."

Just the coincidence that the amount of time it's being misused is 100% and by your own benefactors, no less.

>> No.55702595

>>55694584
Wall Street hubris never ceases to astound me.

>> No.55702924

>>55698077
ironically, had they just maintained their post WW2 manufacturing powerhouse status, kept the gold standard and been fiercely protective of their borders, their birthrates would have maintained high levels and they would likely have entered a new paradigm in human prosperity and plenty.
instead, they allowed the same Jewish crime syndicate who had just finished destroying Russia in and allowed them to turn their own economy into a weapon against them.