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55583078 No.55583078 [Reply] [Original]

Is retail really this profoundly retarded? At this point all the information is in plain sight. It's like a pressure cooker about to explode. There's nothing else like it in crypto. All the autists here saw it 5+ years and it all happened just like they said it would. It's the end game of crypto. This shit is about to snowball so fucking hard now that ccip is out of the box. The network effect, the monopoly, the tokenomics, the value capture. It's astounding that it's not back in the top 5 yet.

>> No.55583087

>>55583078
Adrenochrome.

>> No.55583161

>>55583078
>Is retail really this profoundly retarded?
Yes. Over the coming weeks and months there will be "serious" debate between stinkers and the clueless nolinkers. They will whatabout oracle-less solutions, API3, Pyth, bridges that have lost users literal billions, and in the end they will still buy. And not because they learned anything along the way, but because there will be social pressure to buy, which is the only thing they can respond to.

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>>55583161
Facts, they will buy no matter what. Likely at a much higher price than right now.

>> No.55583231

>>55583078
If what you're saying is true, then why isn't it
pumping harder? I will not buy unless it breaks $10.

>> No.55583236

>>55583161
Whatever happens, I hope niggers, Indians and Redditors stay poor.

>> No.55583240

>>55583078
retail not needed

>> No.55583257

>>55583231
people who you listen to haven't told you to buy it yet
authority figures are vital

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55583280

>>55583078
there's literally only one post on reddit about it from today and there's only 50 upvotes.

>> No.55583292

>>55583078
>all the information is in plain sight
honestly this is the ONLY reason why i can't help but believe the fud or just fud-myself, it just seems too good to be true, too easy and too obvious and i don't understand how the 'elite' or basically rich mfers who are into tech, etc have not invested HEAVILY and already pumped the price significantly...i make up batshit conspiracy theories like the elite basically hijacked chainlink and plan to steal its tech, or whatvever other assinine reasons that my paranoia happens to invent on a weekly basis

of course I hold LINK and plan to keep dca-ing, but again this is the only fud that sometimes makes me doubt it all...

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>>55583292
don't doubt yourself. it really do be like picrelated.

>> No.55583452

>>55583078
yawn
Link is not special, like at all. Premined crap that is literally worthless due to it having no actual unique niche in the space. A dime a dozen oracle provider, and although they do have some sort of first mover advantage, the space is too diluted for any special interest in particular.

>> No.55583460

>>55583161
100% accurate in terms of everything except that this is going to happen soon. It will take full swing value capture basically LINK entering top 5 again for these morons to even consider thinking about LINK. It will be far too late for any of them to accumulate a meaningful amount.

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>>55583452

>> No.55583487

it's a shame the token isn't needed

>> No.55583491

>>55583078
everything in life is like this

>> No.55583494

>>55583078
Yes, retail is this profoundly retarded. The bull market of 2021 was carried by Elon Musk tweeting stupid unfunny memes about Dogecoin. DOGE is still a top 10 coin. Retail doesn't know anything about crypto and only knows how to FOMO into the stupidest shit imaginable.

>> No.55583501

>>55583161
Wear the mask. Take the vax. Buy LINK.

This is the way.

>> No.55583516

>>55583078
the brief breakdown below the year-long consolidation range was the spring for the takeoff

>> No.55583524

>>55583494
This, normalfags are nigger cattle.

>> No.55583527

>>55583460
How much you consider a meaningful amount?

>> No.55583536

>>55583527
500+

>> No.55583607

>>55583280
Downvoted. Thanks for the heads-up. We won't let reddit get on this train

>> No.55583620

>>55583078
>There's nothing else like it in crypto
actually there is, its called Avalanche.
its about as underrated as chainlink.

>> No.55583926

>>55583078
It would be a pressure cooker about to explode if it wasnt for Sergey still having 500 million tokens to dump, with nodes fully subsidied, projects using it able to pay in USD while Sergey exchanges it for his LINK reserves off of market resulting in no demand and only more sell pressure when nodes sell it to cover costs

>> No.55583954

>>55583926
this
fatass is going to cash out billions more before any frog posters have a chance to quit mcdonalds

>> No.55583960

>>55583926
>>55583954
you're trying to empty the ocean with a sieve it's insane how pathetic this shit seems on today of all days.

>> No.55583975

>>55583960
lol your pump is over and now it's aggressively dumping

>> No.55583977

>>55583078
>retail
Retail doesn't even know wtf swift is.
>Staking? Is that like betting on the races?
>CCIP? Is this the next lgbt acronym?
>Number go up I must buy!!!
Then the next generation of bagholders is born.

>> No.55583985

>>55583960
No it isn't. you can stick your head in the sand for a day if you like.
You KNOW that is the truth and it hasnt fucking changed. LINK would be the best hold in the entire world out of any investment possible if Sergey wasn't basically strangle holding any possible buy pressure with his dumps and subsidy model.

Objectively he is a faggot. He could easily buy LINK on the market with funds projects give him annually for data feeds and increase the price which also benefits him when he dumps. instead of chooses to just release tokens form his cache to node operators instead which results in no buying and more sell pressure

>> No.55583987

>>55583975
THREE HOURS OF STRAIGHT DUMPING WHAT THE FUCK

>> No.55583988

Fudders still fudding. How mentally ill are these people.

>> No.55583994

>>55583161
well said
if the past 6 years have taught us anything, its this

>> No.55584006

>>55583985
>Objectively he is a faggot.
this is the truth that retards will call fud
the fatass glutton's greed is the single biggest reason for the poor price performance and it will continue for years to come

>> No.55584029

>>55583078
>Is retail really this profoundly retarded? At this point all the information is in plain sight.
Why do you care?

>> No.55584030

>>55583161
they had 6 years

>> No.55584051

>>55583452
>unique niche
>the space is too diluted
Do you even CCIP bro? You look confused

>> No.55584061

>>55583078
>It is about to snowball so fucking hard now that ccip is out of the box
won't it be simply follow bull and bear runs as it has always done?
Why you say that it would go up and upper indefinitely?

>> No.55584069

>>55583078
Maybe I'm retarded, but I've done a lot of research into link and...I don't see it.
The only thing I see has a potential positive tokenomics wise is staking v1, which seems to be a few years off still.
I'll be paying attention for any sort of potential pump from staking v1. But until then, especially having looked at the code of CCIP and also no real RWA action yet in crypto, I'm just not seeing the value here given the sell pressure from node subsidies and the company.
The token is a clever funding method for autists to fund their ideas, but the value really doesn't transfer to it a tokenomic sense that impresses potential investors. The supply main exists to be market sold. Even when nodes are being paid in LINK for services...the profit potential here or ways to reduce the supply either haven't been thought out yet or just don't exist.
Or possibly it's all just been communcated poorly and the token gets burned rather than sold on the open market by nodes even in the best case scenarios.
A utility token that is used for services, even if those services are used often...isn't necessarily a good investment without a rock solid economic plan to actually reduce the supply and sell pressure.
Everyone always assumes unlimited demand for LINK, but demand is only one part of the equation.
I've spoken to a lot of people who do this stuff for a living, and spent a lot of time researching crypto tokenomic models. And the only interesting part is some hypothetical future with the actual staking that was described long ago implemented...CCIP ain't it from a tokenomic perspective. There's not as much profit as you think in these things. Even clearinghouses that handle trillions don't make as much money as you'd think hearing numbers like 'quadrillions'...DTCC is worth like what, 2b?
Link can only charge what markets are willing to bear as well...

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>>55584069
That's a great wall of text, bro, you should be very proud of yourself. Give yourself a high five.

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>>55583985
And pic related is why! As you can see he has no intention to let the token pump because all he cares about is for his end-users to be as comfy as possible and he will singlehandedly keep the price low through dumping HALF OF THE TOTAL SUPPLY THAT HE GOT. It's already over

>> No.55584115

Retail does not and has never had enough money to move markets. "Retail" in crypto is whales/VC's advertising their shitcoin of choice to you, making you believe that little timmy and jimmy buying is what's causing the price to rise, so that every time you make a purchase you are buying their bags and providing the exit liquidity they so badly need, so they can rotate back to btc, eth and stables.

If link does move organically, via actual adoption and buy pressure, its going to look more like 2019-2020, just small movements consistently up against the market. If it starts violently mooning, that's when you know a dump is coming.

>> No.55584124

>>55583280
The fact that Reddit isn’t in on it makes me that much more interested in it

>> No.55584130

>>55583292
They have invested heavily. They like everyone else are still waiting on adoption. If they pump the price now, it dies, why kill the golden goose?

Everything else in crypto is a mirage, everyone looks at what you could have made if you bought BNB or Doge or Shib at the bottom and held the whole way through, but the reality is nobody did that, or an infinitely small amount of people did. Its manipulated and eventually it crashes and dies harder than bitcoin, or even worse, you end up with an FTT/FTX situation.

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I'm going to shit my pants with happiness, excitement, positivity and optimism.
I don't even remember the last time I was this pumped.

>> No.55584145

>>55583078
SWIFT is being ousted in the new ISO 20022 messaging world and LINK is garbage You are investing in prime carriage wood the year before the car is invented

>> No.55584166

>>55584124
Kek I still remember the fudding went back years and I contributed to it. 61k link btw. There were daily calls to downvote chainlink discussion on reddit. Chainlink main net post got to 200 up votes then got banned by the mods for controversial comments

>>55584130
This. There is never any organic discussion about shib because no anons actually made it off it. The only reason there is link fud is that a majority of the board in 2018-19 had 6-7 figure portfolios which made fudders really bitter. Then pol came and lost all their money from blockfi celcius ftx. At least some of them fucked off again. It's pathetic the fud has died down atm because they are holding discord discussions on the best approach forward

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HNNNNNNGGHHHH

>> No.55584192

>>55584113
OH MY FUCKING GOD DID YOU GUYS EVEN READ WHAT IT SAYS.

>Link price may go up so high that it could be a problem even with 18 decimals.
>81k USD per token is FUD
>Holy shit jesus christ we are gonna be trillionaires
>Even businesses will have a hard time buying link on the market due to price being astronomical FOR BUSINESSES.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS ?
HOLY FUCKKK

>> No.55584195

>>55584108
The gas fee is paid in ETH.
The node pays the gas fee in ETH.
The protocol denominates the amount that the node paid in LINK.
The protocol now owes the node some amount of LINK.
At some specified time(monthly?), the protocol uses (some 9 figure amount of LINK tokens allocated specifically for this, 30-35%(?) of the 1b supply) tokens allocated to subsidize these costs that nodes incur from gas and such to pay out LINK to the nodes.
The nodes now have LINK that they can sell.
This increases the supply of LINK.
CCIP is not a positive thing here.
The market knows it because there are lots of people who analyze this stuff for living. If it was different, the price would be different.
I understand 99% of you here have no interest in reality or making money. And that this is some weird ego thing at this point...so I get it that no one is going to actually care.
The market speaks for itself.
LINK will go up in nominal terms with USD to some extent as lots of crypto will(some of the liquidity is paired with ETH and such after all..) but it will under perform badly.
Enjoy the bull run...you're ngmi.

>> No.55584211

>>55584168
This is how LayerZero works already btw.
They don't have a token.

>> No.55584215

>>55584195
Listen up newfags, I'm a tcp ip developer at a fortune 50 big data company with 25 years experience in database infosec, I've looked into chainlink and all I can tell you if that the cryptographic measures implemented in regards to the decentralized security paradigm in the API and IoT structure of chainlink's github code is fundamentally flawed after the Pivotal tracker server crashed due to the core attacks on the network enabled by its corrupt data inputs and outputs, what this really means is that by attempting to solve the oracle sybil resistance issue it instead allows customers to bypass the encrypted hardware and even hack into the smart contract Intel SGX mainframe, unless they manage to increase the signatures and scalable nodes, which isn't likely considering the Google backend isn't compatible with the legacy JSON systems and Solidity language from the EVM in the Truffle stacks, that's why the ic3 and SWIFT engineering teams developed the ISO 20220 standards but it's centralized and susceptible to the 51% front running program so yeah basically Sergey didn't foresee that the enterprise customers and cloud blockchain dapps would never allow their protocols to rely on these permissioned host mechanisms thus rendering the LINK ERC 677 token obsolete and no serious developer would consider DLT technology in these conditions, sorry linkies I'm just telling it how it is.

>> No.55584228

>>55584195
I will bro you enjoy it too, I'm fucking so goddamn happy right now I've been waiting for today for a very long time.

>> No.55584241

>>55584215
Tell me you're an incel without telling me you're an incel

>> No.55584249

>>55584195
>bros listen to me the market is so smart and that’s why dog coins and outright scams dominate the top 15 because the market KNOWS they are the highest value because people LOVE dogs and scams

This is literally you. The type of stupid that doesn’t know they’re stupid. Congrats, that’s basically bottom barrel.

>> No.55584254

>>55584195
Exactly. more fucking subsidies.
Where does the LINK get purchased on market to pay the CCIP fee?

where does "smart execution" buy LINK on market/dex to pay the LINK fee?

>pay gas fee
>Smart Execution calculates the LINK fee and bills the service hosting the transactions
>service either pays Sergey in USD and Sergey then releases his LINK reserves to node operators who sell it for overheads, or Just straight up gives nodes whatever bill is racked up as full subsidisation.


So fucking tired of this shit. CCIP is a new anchor for the price

>> No.55584261

>>55583292
>I'm such a retarded schizo that I only believe fud that I've pulled from my own insane imagination

Based

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>>55584228
WE’RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER, DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF COLLECTIVE POSITIVE THOUGHT. THIS SHIT IS GOING TO 1000 FUCKING BUCKS EASILY

Close your eyes, try to clear any thoughts you are having
Take long, slow, deep breaths and put all your focus and attention onto your breathing
iiiiiiiinnnn.................... ooooooooooooouuuut

good. Do this for a few minutes, then -
VISUALIZE yourself becoming rich through your LINK investment
ANTICIPATE the things you will buy with your new found abundance of wealth
IMAGINE as though it is all happening now in the present moment, for the present moment is all that truly exists
MOST IMPORTANTLY
FEEL the way you will FEEL when that moment comes and you make it!
FEELING THE EMOTION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN JUST VISUALIZING THE IMAGES!

Now open your eyes, look in a mirror, and recite these affirmations (use/add your own that is relevant to the reality you want to create once you make it)
I AM RICH
I AM WEALTHY
I AM A MILLIONAIRE
LINK HAS GIVEN ME INFINITE ABUNDANCE
It's important to do this when you wake up and before you go to bed, but do it as often as possible. Also hold the image and idea of us making it and LINK being worth $1,000 or more in your mind as you fall to sleep.

WHEN WE DO THIS COLLECTIVELY MY LINK BROTHERS, THE UNIVERSE WILL SEE TO IT THAT CERTAIN EVENTS, PEOPLE AND CIRCUMSTANCES WILL ALIGN AND BE ATTRACTED TO US - THAT WILL ALLOW OUR DESIRE TO MANIFEST INTO REALITY!
I love you all

>> No.55584285

>>55584277
CHECKED. YOU ARE A MANIAC

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>>55584254

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>>55584277
Checked divine 7s we’re have walked through the valley in the shadow of death, bros, but we may fear no evil for the future is trust minimised computation moving through the standard oracle network.

>> No.55584311

>>55584290

>auto-converted
>sergey sets up a wallet with 100M LINK earmarked for conversions
>platform gives Sergey 100k USD a year
>rate pre-calculated
>contract then releases tokens from sergeys vault, inflating supply and still resulting in NO MARKET BUYING.

im a fucking 5 year bagholder, i'd love to be wrong, but Cainlink have pulled off this kind of shit non fucking stop and i dont expect that to change. till i see it plainly stated they are not going to come from sergeys vaults in any way, and will be purchased ON MARKET, its just another let down

>> No.55584314

>>55584285
Dude. So are you!

>> No.55584322

>>55584215
Since not everyone is a tech guy, let me run that through chat gpt for you

I work with internet communications at a large, data-focused company, and I have a long history with database security. I've examined this particular piece of code from a project (redacted), and there are significant problems with the security measures they've used, particularly with how they're trying to protect data in a decentralized way. This issue became obvious when a key server (Pivotal tracker server) crashed because of attacks on the network that were made possible by poor handling of data going in and out.

This issue is directly related to their attempt to solve a problem called the "oracle sybil resistance" which is about preventing fake identities in a network from gaining control. But their solution has backfired, letting users get past security and potentially hack into a crucial part of the system (smart contract Intel SGX mainframe).

They might be able to fix this by adding more security checks (signatures) and increasing the number of independent systems (scalable nodes), but this is unlikely because the systems they're using (Google backend, JSON systems, Solidity language) don't work well with older systems they have in place (legacy EVM in the Truffle stacks).

Engineering teams from IC3 and SWIFT developed a standard (ISO 20220) to try and solve these issues, but this solution has its own problems. It's centralized, which goes against the decentralization principles of blockchain, and is vulnerable to a type of attack where someone with a lot of control over the network (51%) can cheat the system (front running program).

Finally, because of these issues, the (redacted) project's token (ERC 677 token) isn't useful anymore. Most importantly, big clients who use blockchain for their cloud applications would never trust a system that has these vulnerabilities. So, no serious developer would consider using this kind of technology in its current condition.

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>>55584311
didnt read, just pay me bulgarian

>> No.55584348

>>55584215
well said

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55584363

>>55584311
>STAY A WHILE AND LISTEN

>> No.55584383

>>55584215
lmao

>> No.55584401

>>55584249
Canaanites, dog people, love dogs and peanut butter. they are slso obsessed with deserts wandering tubal caine kaine and so on. no wonder they fely compelled to make dog themed scams

>> No.55584426

>>55584249
The thing is that link actually presents itself as something different.
There's a reason why people buy memecoins. It's a pure gamble. Everyone knows that there's no real underlying value outside of he meme itself and the idea that the price will go up
LINK and memecoins are targeted at two entirely sets of people.
LINK actually has to work and create a system that provides value via an economic system that isn't purely extractive. It doesn't really do that.
Chainlink does actually provide signification value to defi. Is it undervalued though with the current tokenomics and development schedule?
The funny thing is that people on here act as if everything is preordained as if LINK was a memecoin. But it's not a memecoin. It's a meme, but not a memecoin. There is a difference.
You'd unironically be better off it was a memecoin though.
Creating real value and a viable economic model is hard. Maybe link manages to do that in a few years though with staking v1, I dunno.

>> No.55584435

>>55584069
>RWA action in crypto
what is it?

>> No.55584439

>>55583078
You can, and have, posted cope like this every day hoping things will change but if you're whining about retail not saving your bags it means you're a bad investor.

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>>55583394
Interesting synchronicity.

>> No.55584604

>>55583394
this already happened to me during COVID
GM based kings stay heavily sedated and unvaccinated pilled

>> No.55584621

>>55584426
>better off with a memecoin
Link has outperformed the majority of memecoins by orders of magnitude. Did I just get lucky when I chose to invest in Link?

>> No.55584630

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>> No.55584939

>>55583988
They were fudding the entire runup from 2018-2019, and LINK outperformed the entire market. Just get used to it and think about what will you spend your staking money on.

>> No.55585046

>>55584215
rofl i haven't seen this pasta in ages

>> No.55585050

>>55584277
Basado

>> No.55585069

>>55583161
>social pressure
>on an anonymous tibetan throat singing forum

>> No.55585081

>>55583231
They dumped Bitcoin immediately after the launch announcement to kill link’s initial pump momentum.
They’ve been doing this for many years now.

>> No.55585104

>>55583926
BTC, ETH, etc. made their biggest gains when like 90% of the total supply was still uncirculating.
I hope for your sake that you’re knowingly lying, and not actually this retarded.

>> No.55585128

>>55584254
Anyone who doesn’t want to get raped an extra 10% on their transaction fee will be buying LINK on the open market.

>> No.55585140

>>55584069
>The only thing I see has a potential positive tokenomics wise is staking v1
Pretty much no crypto ever has had anything like Link staking v1, yet it didn't stop anything from pumping did it?
Pull your head out of your ass.

>> No.55585143

>>55584115
>Retail does not and has never had enough money to move markets
Retail moved Bitcoin, ETH, Doge, GME, ICOs, Defi, ...
Banks, governments, enterprise, ... run on retail money.
Fuck right off.

>> No.55585150

>>55584195
>>55584254
CCIP is paid entirely by the user, there are no subsidied like with the feeds.

Also, users can pay all costs (including gas fees) in Link tokens.

>> No.55585169

>>55585150
When they convert the base tokens to link, is it from Chainlink Labs bags?

>> No.55585186

>>55585169
Payments are made to nodes, CLL isn't involved in any of it unless their node is.

>> No.55585189

>>55585081
Who's "they"? And if that's were true, why isn't anyone besides /biz/ talking about it?

>> No.55585201

>>55585069
i feel pressured to buy already. oh wait, it was just reflux

>> No.55585209
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55585209

>>55585189
The people that have been suppressing LINK for years

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55585216

>>55585209
>The people that have been suppressing LINK for years

>> No.55585220

>>55585186
You didn't read the blog?

>payments made in alternative assets will be withdrawn to separate maintenance pools and replaced within the CCIP contracts with LINK based on the exchange rate at the time of payment

Where does this link come from, is it bought on the open market?

>> No.55585233

>>55585209
Looks to me like a coincidence. Do you have other examples?

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>>55585216
Sergey's the one who keeps dumping Bitcoin on Link news?
huh

>>55585189
>why isn't anyone besides /biz/ talking about it?
They really should

>> No.55585245

>>55585220
>Where does this link come from
See >>55585186

>> No.55585256

You are suffering from confirmation bias.
Token not needed

>> No.55585262

>>55585237
Every single time

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>>55585237
Thats bullshit cope. All the alts literally have the same movement. Of course you will think everything is related to link when thats the only coin you watch 24/7 lmao

>> No.55585274

Just 2 more weeks!

>> No.55585277

>>55583607
>>55584124
>>55584166
And then Reddit pumped Solana, GME, Doge, BNB, Quant, ... instead.
Congrats.

>> No.55585285

>>55585269
>All the alts literally have the same movement
What movement?

>> No.55585290

>>55585245
Ah ok, the link comes from heaven, the conversion happens magically, Chainlink Labs is not involved got you. You shills really have no shame lying like that to defenseless investors

>> No.55585295

>>55585290
The tokens don't come from heaven, and they don't come from CLL.
You get one more guess, make it count!

>> No.55585306

>>55585295
Dude you can stop it now everyone knows it comes from CL wallets but it's fine we knew this from ICO, they're here for this kind of bootstrapping

>> No.55585311

>>55584166
I made a shit ton of shib and its most useless shitcoin ever. There is nothing to discuss about that

>> No.55585337

>>55585306
source?

>> No.55585420

Holy shit I don't like to fud but you linkies are such an unbearable group of uppity faggots that you deserve to lose. You're worse than XRPtards.

>> No.55585446

>>55585420
unblock a few marines on twitter and rile them up based VC you know you hate organic communities and desperately need to maintain a strict hierarchy wOulDnT wAnT jUsT aNyBoDy iN CryPtOs dEcEnTrALizAtIon iS jUst a meME

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>>55583078
>Is retail really this profoundly retarded?
Yes this is why they are retail and not based like us!

>> No.55585529

>>55585233
https://youtu.be/8nEPWUFgfvk

>> No.55585797

>>55585515
source?

>> No.55585890

>>55584310
>i know it looks bad, but please don't sell before we do. thanks

>> No.55585965

>>55585069
There's probably what, a thousand people on /biz/, at best? They're not talking about this board you absolute retard. You're fucking lucky you stumbled your way here. You wouldn't make it on your brainpan alone.

>> No.55586000

>>55584069
Thanks for the wall of fud. Ill be sure to use it to post on reddit when they post if Link is a good investment or not

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>>55583280
What would commies know about capitalism?

>> No.55586128

>>55583494
and thats the reason noone cares or will care about link, tech is uninteresting. dog coins are better. imagine buying the tech meme and others make it with a dog

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>>55584277
How much time do I have left before take off?

>> No.55586850

>>55585290
Bro youre talking to what is essentially the crypto version of Gamestoppers. They arent going to have this convo with you, but instead they’ll “own you” buy buying more (cringe)

>> No.55586861
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55586861

There is no doubt that Link will climb to number 1. But it won’t happen now even with the CCIP release right? The market is just that fucking dumb in my opinion. I shutter to think of all the colossal retards who’ll talk about Link coming from out of nowhere.

>> No.55587137

>>55584621
Not better off with a memecoin, that link would better off if it was a pure meme play rather than an asset where people are examining it and expecting it to actually produce value. Of course it's not a meme coin at all.
Maybe in a sense, post-ICO and pre-mainnet link was vaguely a memecoin driven by the seemingly unlimited potential and hard to disprove hopium posts and such. After a certain point the meme phase is over and economics matter(or at least the perception that they'll change for the better).
>>55585140
There have been lots of creative tokenomics models. But really it's not even the point. The idea and he resulting 'meme' where all the 'potential' lies, is where you find people overvaluing things.
The thing is that there are apparently zero people in the link community now capable of weaving any sort of even vaguely plausible story about how link is undervalued and why someone should buy it now.
It's all just arrogant dismissal. Like OP et al...
Personally I don't give a fuck if any of it is true. Id buy anything I think is going to go up. Not too long ago you had tons of people who would throw down some of the best bullshit hopium on here and elsewhere.
These days though it's almost as if link exists outside of crypto as some weird insular community that literally only cares about assuring each other that they made the right choice rather than actually promoting it.
This comes up often enough that I know the conculcion if discussed is just going to be something along the lines of how crypto, retail, whatever/whoever, don't matter and it's going to be banks/institutions/governments buying everyone's bags. Essentially communicating to everyone that there's no point in actually holding it, but just keeping an eye out in case something like that actually happens and then buying some.
It's always on a timescale of multiple years in a market where maybe if we're lucky we get 2 years of bull. That's a hard sell desu

>> No.55587173

>>55587137
>zero people in the link community now capable of weaving any sort of even vaguely plausible story about how link is undervalued
easy; Chainlink is by far the most-used system this side of ETH, yet it's rank 20+

>> No.55587211

>>55585306
Thank you for being straightforward with it.
It's literally the tokenomics(for now).
Personally I don't deny that there is some kind of potential interesting future with v1 staking and institutions. It's just obviously not happening overnight.
The thing is I don't understand why people dance around that here so much. Since it's the conclusion of every reasonable discussion.
It's like people constantly hype themselves up for short term gains in what is one of the only crypto assets actually building for the very long term.

>> No.55587246

>>55587211
>Chainlink needs to collateralize a percentage of the value it secures to pump
>Bitcoin, ETH, ADA, XRP, Quant, Solana, .... don't

Congrats on that glaring double standard.

>> No.55587271

>>55587211
No. It is because you are now talking to "community advocates". It's not the old anons who liked to keep things honest and true even if it meant criticising some aspect of link anymore. You have to process the loss, I did it, I think it was inevitable with link getting so much traction, normies are in, oldfags lost interest. Enjoy your discussion with non paid link jannies though if you think it's any fun

>> No.55587273

its been suppressed you fucking retards, btc whales are also autists who will not let ccip release ruin their perfect wyckoff painting right away, they want to finish that perfect D spring and then we're off to the races

>> No.55587294

>>55586000
I probably unironically fud link less than the average holder on /biz/ who keeps hyping up themselves up for short term gains only to be disappointed.
I actually acknowledge a potential future where interesting things can happen. But in the short term, the concept and the tokenomics work heavily against short term profits.
No one here even bothers talking about long term hopium with questionable but intreguing back of the envelope math here any more. It's all
>wen CCIP
>CCIP = moon
>1k eoy
You've all actually manged to turn the meme magic against you in a way where your own memes actually produce negative value instead of coming up with a solid easily digestible narrative.
I mean I'd fucking buy anything that I think other people are going to buy. But somehow the people here have managed to create some kind of inverse meme magic(meme-curse?) after actually having some of the best previously. It's kind of amazing really.

>> No.55587313

>>55587273
nobody cares about much wackoff retard

>> No.55587344

>>55587294
>>CCIP = moon
Literally yes. And then Bitcoin shits the bed.
Tale as old as time.

>> No.55587347

>>55587271
I don't think it's fun, but it would be in all of our best interest for the old anons to come back and reverse all of this. Making money is nice...

>> No.55587367

>surgay fatass on Bloomberg today

10 percent fomo pump then slow 20 percent exit dump bleed.

>> No.55587375

>>55587347
the team themselfs have fuck old fags so hard(im speaking for myself) i just wanna get out at the new all time high. Sergey really fucked me over hard with announcing ccip and staking in jan 22 only to deliver a year later.

>> No.55587508

>>55584069
>Maybe I'm retarded, but I've done a lot of research into link and
>...I don't see it.
I stopped reading here, I'm sorry to tell you anon but you're a retard if you can't see what's unfolding in front of you
all of you are so fucking lucky LINK is still a reasonable price and hasn't pumped in years, but I'll take comfort in knowing you won't buy until it's rocketing anyway

>> No.55587550

>>55586861
there is absolutely doubt about that...even the CL team would acknowledge that

>>55587294
Agreed and damn your posts make me miss old biz.

>> No.55587575

>>55587294
>>55587344
IT ISN'T ON MAINNET FUCKING MOUTH BREATHERS

>> No.55587593

>>55587508
>zero substance cheap salesman talk

Your post literally just proved the point he's making.

>> No.55587615

>>55587508
you are a nufag

>> No.55587633

>>55587575
Yes it is retard, it's just not public yet and you have to be a keyed in beta tester.
Holy shit this place gets dumber every day. I cannot imagine being this confidentially incorrect, all you need to do is click on any transaction in their explorer.

>> No.55587635

>>55587550
>>55587575
>>55587593
>>55587615
back-to-back fuddie turboseethe
CCIP is already mindbreaking you and it hasn't even been out for a full day yet.

>> No.55587652

>>55587294
we need staking to open back up. yield on aave for link is dogshit

>> No.55587670

>>55587635
im convinced these anti fud posts are from the team

>> No.55587746

>>55587670
take ur meds then retard. we in ur head rent free

>> No.55587795

>anti-fud posts
fuddies actually think their recycled years old fud which everyone ignores and filters out is the normal state of things, and any actual discussion is "anti-fud". i truly hope they are paid. otherwise their delusion is just unbelievable.

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>>55587575
>>55587633
>IT ISN'T ON MAINNET

>> No.55587860

also funny how they don't even pretend they're arguing in good faith anymore. they're now explicitly labeling their own posts as fud. lmao, the absolute state of these coom brain porn addicts.

>> No.55587892

>>55585233
link dumps when btc dumps, like all crypto.

>> No.55587934

>>55587892
Which is why they dump BTC whenever there's major news for Link.

>> No.55587990

>>55586000
Checked and based

>> No.55587994

>>55585069
why are you so stupid?

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OC for the CCIP release. We're all gonna make it bros.

>> No.55588049

>>55588008
bruhhhhh

>> No.55588270

>>55588008
Saved for the feels

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>>55583078
The Ten Classic Signs You Are In A Cult:

1. The leader is the ultimate authority
>Sergey depicted in memes as a king, a god, Jesus on the cross
>followers hang on his every word, mesmerized by his presentations even though he's been using the same slides for 3.5 years

2. The group suppresses skepticism
>all critical thought about LINK is FUD
>questioning LINK will get you called a redditor, newfag, or a salty nolinker

3. The group delegitimizes former members
>memes depict LINK sellers swinging from a rope
>popular figures like Timo, Cryptojuice, and even Dave Portnoy are mocked endlessly despite making a profit by selling LINK

4. The group is paranoid about the outside world
>LINK cultists insist that the "kikes" want your LINK
>the only reason it doesn't pump is "price suppression" by the globalist Great Reset New World Order

5. The group relies on shame cycles
>people who don't have the prescribed "suicide stack" of LINK are mocked and shamed until they irresponsibly spend over $70,000 to acquire 10k LINK

6. The leader is above the law
>linkies hate anyone who sells LINK
>but when Sergey sells 40 million dollars of LINK every Friday for a year, it's a good thing

7. The group uses “thought reform” methods
>DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF POSITIVE THOUGHT! WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER!

8. The group is elitist
>the linkie believes he is superior to the nolinker, even if the nolinker has made many times his profit, because one day LINK will moon. he knows this, based on faith.

9. There is no financial transparency
>nobody knows where Sergey's weekly 40 million dollar dumps are going
>one blog post update every 6 months

10. The group performs secret rites
>esoteric saturnism
>eric holder killed paul walker
>rosicrucian numerology
>municipal marmalade
>cult of demeter
>jonny rims horses


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShqPoIcQ7cU

>> No.55588305

>>55588008
>>55588049
>>55588270
You guys are in a cult. None of you are discussing anything of value, it's all just faith based posting and emotions.

>> No.55588336

>>55584249
Mega midwit,

No paid fud or mental illness here, I just had to stop by while lurking to call you retarded along with many of the posters in this thread. Seriously I don’t like to jump to insult people but look at the price and how it’s performed with the rest of the market, it’s a terrible choice regardless of Muh tech

>> No.55588366

>>55588008
God damn thank you anon. Saved and will repost a thousand times just so the demonic pitch black souled fuddies scream into a pillow everytime they see it

>> No.55588389

>>55588298
society as a whole is a cult in all these terms.
cults aren't bad, they're like unions without dues.

>> No.55588425

>>55588298
wait a second, that post itself tries to use shame and use thought reform, with the basic bitch 10 rules of being a cult as it's supreme authority.
I could fit all the other ones in there if I wanted, you get the gist. what a meta post, it's only just dawned on me today.

>> No.55588434

Its just that simple:
– not a single anon sold any link tokens
– they in fact, just bought more
– fudders have become so paranoid and deranged that their stench and their boiling rage gives them away instantly
– they get taunted and then filtered/ignored
– ccip is much more we even theorized
– we are going to be wealthy beyond any measure
– all due to the 'tism and our collective capacity to spot fraudsters a mile away (which is why we saw FTX, Bancor, Celsius coming a mile away and stayed the fuck out)
– we have filled the only ever official community staking slots.

Now imagine how fucking MAD these third world vermin must get everytime they see all their work, all their time, all their futile, impotent, rage-laden efforts have amounted to NOTHING

I cannot explain how /comfy/ I feel these days

>> No.55588497

>>55588434
bro you're a schizoid and have constructed your own alternative version of reality to comfort you
>link becomes fourth reich
>jews become fuddies
it's all a conspiracy, right?

>> No.55588503

>>55587593
>>55587615
I'm tired, so fucking tired of trying to educate people on this board since 2018 about Chainlink, I rarely come here anymore, only for the CCIP news I wanted to see if there was any good discussions
but, once again I'm reminded why I left, a bunch of zoomers with the attention span of a goldfish expecting to be spoonfed investments
check the archives or go fuck yourself, it's been explained over and over
actually don't bother, it's a scam, buy shib

>> No.55588551

I'm so happy we're all making money my fellow link marines
>checks price
>still down 80% from ath
fuck! why are we cheering again?

>> No.55588560

>>55588008
Checked and boob pilled beautiful meme anon. I’m gonna start making memes again too. It’s time.

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>>55588503
maybe because you've been screeching since ath about staking and arbitrum and the swift partnership which were supposed to give you all money to buy lambos but did nothing and now ccip is released and the token is still worth the price of a cup of coffee and maybe everyone just wants to know why you're still spamming the board with 30 threads at any given time

>> No.55588653

>>55588305
>>55588497
>>55588608
>None of you are discussing anything of value
>it's all a conspiracy, right?
>the token is still worth the price of a cup of coffee
Are you retarded?

>> No.55588660

Retail. Retail isnt even in crypto. Its just moonboys, teens and men in early thirties to fourties playing with couple thousands bucks. And if there's any retard normies they're buying xrp and dogcoins with max hundreds.

>> No.55588680

>>55588653
>Are you retarded?
nice rebuttal you know what you're right 1000 eoy

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>>55588336
>look at the price

>> No.55588814

>>55585189
Early bitcoin investors who understood bitcoin and also understand chainlink (and how much more valuable chainlink will be)

>> No.55588832

>>55588814
>bitcoin maxis understand chainlink
damn look at this closeted faggot
not a single og cryptobro is touching LINK simply because there's almost zero chance it will make investors money. just move on. you are losing money every day.

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> see high post link thread
> wonder if there's been news and what the price is
> $6
> back to sleep
It's been this way for so long now

>> No.55588887

>>55588832
>please sell please pleeeease sell SELL SELL DAMNIT SELL NOW ARGH SELL WHY WON'T YOU FUCKING SELL
kek fuddies

>> No.55588902 [DELETED] 

>>55588888

>> No.55588904

>>55588887
>sell
kek im not telling you to sell, im just saying you wont be making any money from this 2017 premined coin.

>> No.55588934

>>55588904
> im not telling you to sell
>>55588832
>just move on.
ESL retard can't even remember his own post from 5 seconds ago. kek fuddies, never selling.

>> No.55588943

>>55584333
You have any sauce for that pic?

>> No.55588986

>>55588726
just lmao

>> No.55589126

>>55588434
To your third point, you realize you are inferring theres a global conspiracy to fud the world’s losers (you and the cult) out of a mid 20s altcoin. Are you not seeing the irony here?

I could use a good laugh, how much wealth collectively do you think biz has?

>> No.55589165

>>55588503
Assuming no one has a gun to your head, why come here then if it’s so exhausting for you!? I cant imagine sitting on a message board all day waiting for someone to ask a question about my cult investment, only to respond with

>Dude we talked about this year ago its now off limits!!!!!!
>Oh my god dude Im just SO TIRED of this conversation

What a weird reaction

>> No.55589211

>>55589165
They just expect to come here for constant positive reinforcement, when anons interfere with their positive feedback loop they get irrationally angry

>> No.55589228

>>55588497
>>55589126
See, behold. Absolute buckbroken third world porn addicts just MALDING at the thought of being, once more, impotent.

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>>55588008

>> No.55589262

>>55588934
you will lose all your hard earned money and you will be unironically happy cuck lmao

>> No.55589295

>>55585269
It's about BTC consistently dumping at LINKs critical resistance points or on bullish news. Retards on here really have no reading comprehension

>> No.55589332

https://twitter.com/TradeTalks/status/1681318599934496768?s=20

Sergey's on trade talks again

>> No.55589421

>>55583292
Billions are nothing to them, plebs will sell up at 1k link and they will slurp the lot.

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>>55589332
Sirgay raw dogged Jill.

>> No.55589472

>>55589332
Thanks Chris
Can you bring back investors sentiment? We want to make money.

>> No.55589517

>>55584290
>>55584168
>>55584333 (checked)
thanks for the spoonfeeding. I had been wondering about the CCIP fee specifics. real human beans (people who hold more than 10k stinkies) are gonna make it so hard

>> No.55589525

>>55589472
every single retail link investor could sell their tokens and it would make no fucking difference. shut the fuck up you're nothing

>> No.55589537

$7 is a fucking good price. The team can peg it at that price ceiling by just selling some any time it goes over

This is the intended price for link - you're in it for the tech, right?

>> No.55589551

>>55589525
up next you'll tell us the major financial institutions are buying this erc20 token!!! woohoo! go for it bro! wagmi OK;VAMOS! every single one of you shills is being slowly tracked through crypto events you fucking retards you will reap what you sow. you think you are safe when you travel for free to London, Singapore, Paris and Lisbon for crypto events? We're all cryptobros right? We know who you are. And you will pay for your crimes. Inshallah

>> No.55589606

>>55589439
He's married with kids

>>55589472
Yes we just brought it back you should start to see some improvements in your portfolio over the forthcoming weeks and months

>> No.55589636

>>55584061
It went from rank 105 to rank 5 in the bear of 2019/2020

>> No.55589709

>>55589606
How many weeks? I feel like 2 is a good number.

>> No.55590052

>>55589228
hahaha what??? That's a beautiful mind you got here buddy. Also don't waste all of your edgy internet lingo in one post, save some for later

>> No.55590134

>>55584211
LayerZero uses Chainlink. It is now pointless bloat with CCIP existing

>> No.55590178

>>55589551
Francisco is that you? Just how much time do you spend seething here and on Twitter, you fucking loser? I really hope you try something funny at SmartCon and get your teeth kicked in plus blackbagged kek its going to be a riot

>> No.55590182

>>55583078
>At this point all the information is in plain sight
Guess you guys shouldnt have kept r*ddit out. Thats what you guess for fudding your own investment.

>> No.55590457

>>55588503
the funny thing is shib would have made you more money then bag holding link you fucking retard

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>2020 no ccip: $6
>2023 with CCIP and swift news: $6
Is this not the biggest failure in crypto history?
Atleast if it just rugged to 0 you would have peace and solace and be able to move on. Instead you have pure stagnation which is death. You guys are trapped in a stagnant pool rotting your lives away

>> No.55591514

>>55591465
Linkbros say two more years

>> No.55591548

>>55591465
Kek did you think link would moon instantly upon ccip release?
Sweet summer child..... have some patience it's just starting lol. -are you new here?

>> No.55591681

>>55591548
This. Sergey at last Smartcon said it'll take a decade or two. We are here because we believe that the technology will succeed in the long run.

>> No.55591715

>>55591681
there is no technology, it's just a useless erc20-token bro

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>>55591715
Nice try fudster, I'm in it for the technology

>> No.55591984

>>55588305
>None of you are discussing anything of value
It happened in 2017 and 2018

>> No.55592207

>>55583620
few, there is a reason CCIP fees are over 1k link on avax already

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>>55583078
>the year is 2041
>Chainlink serves as the backbone for literally every aspect of daily life
>there are no more partnerships that COULD be announced as every major corporation is already publicly integrated with chainlink and operating nodes
>new developments are being made every single day to maximize the efficiency, speed, and accuracy of the oracle network
>the fourth industrial revolution, the singularity, the great reset... all of it was real: and every single datum, transaction, and contract is verified with chainlink.
>token price: $0.22
>24hr performance: -2.7%
>unstaking: soon
>then you wake up and realize it was just a bad dream
>Chainlink doesn't even exist in the future
>The Great Reset was dead on arrival and Chainlink went to zero in early 2025
>you own everything, you are very happy