Coding a trading bot

[Anonymous No.55535071]

Is there a bootcamp to learn how to trade a bot? I don't give a fuck about working under someone. I want it for me. I want to try some trading methods out that I know will make a fuckload of money. My weakness is emotion. If I can make a bot, I can eliminate emotion.
Pic rel. My dream home once I make a trading bot

[Anonymous No.55535089]

>>55535071
>will make a fuckload of money
it wont. you think you're the first retard thinking a trading bot will make you rich?

[Anonymous No.55535093]

>>55535089
Dummy. Methods vary. Mine are not known. I was able to 4x an account in a month before with super high success rate. Problem is my emotion+lack of backtesting made the r:r shit

[Anonymous No.55535126]

>>55535093
>i'll just find a method that will make me rich
t. noob #443434935353

[Anonymous No.55535134]

>>55535126
>t. seething retard that doesn't know TA
Fucking off, low IQ scum

[Anonymous No.55535140]

>>55535126
>t. seething retard that doesn't know TA
Fuck off, low IQ scum

[Anonymous No.55535162]

>>55535140
you're the low IQ who thinks he will get rich using a TA based strategy. come back in 2 years and tell us how it's going kek

[Anonymous No.55535183]

>>55535162
Retard. Fuck off. You don't know TA. I have a history of success, you stupid fuck. I need a bot to properly refine it

[Anonymous No.55535187]

>>55535162
Fyi I have been here since 2018. I am much more experienced than your newfag retard ass. Go back to "hodling" btc, stupid bitch. It's the only hope normie trash like you have at making ANY gains at all.

[Anonymous No.55535208]

>>55535071
fuck fuck fuck OP break the system. just code a python bot: buy low. sell high.
OP well done

[Anonymous No.55535209]

>>55535187
>Fyi I have been here since 2018
very impressive.
>>55535093
so over the course of 5 years, you were able to 4x an account in a month with "super high success rate", but the problem was your emotions. lol, lmao even.

[Anonymous No.55535213]

>>55535071
Bots don't work. By the time you take it live, the market will have changed and you'll lose all your money

[Anonymous No.55535219]

>>55535209
Nigger, my trading account =\= portfolio. Also it takes years to figure out shit that works hence why your bitchass would never get it

[Anonymous No.55535225]

>>55535213
Your retard ass doesn't even know how bot works LMAO. It does what YOU want it to do. It's not some random shit where they all compete with each other

[Anonymous No.55535234]

>>55535071
the purpose of a bot is just the execute without having to look at the charts all day or hesistant when the perfect conditions are met.
i think what you seek is strategy... that my friend no one give if its profitable. but you can find plently of strategies out their that are either unprofitable or break even on a long time frame just to help you get in the mindset of creating your own strategy.
but i will say this you can only profit off of areas in the market where there is a statistical edge/arbitrage. so you'll need to do a bit of math to execute trades where the probability of profit is in your favor.

[Anonymous No.55535235]

>>55535093
>bro I made 4x I can’t win ez with bot!!
>btw how do I make the bot???

[Anonymous No.55535237]

>>55535234
>the purpose of a bot is just the execute without having to look at the charts all day or hesistant when the perfect conditions are met.
No shit
>i think what you seek is strategy.
I already have that, you fucking indian

[Anonymous No.55535243]

>>55535235
Retard. Let me dumb it down. The method I have has given me a 90% success rate, but I need to BACKTEST with a bot to refine it and make it so the losses don't give me a huge fat L. You moron faggot idiots really need to go back to sucking cock rather than waste my valuable time

[Anonymous No.55535253]

>>55535234
OP knows TA!! he's been there since 2018!! 90% success rate but he just needs to BACKTEST (with a bot!)
>>55535243
you can start with this retard
https://www.amazon.com/Machine-Learning-Algorithmic-Trading-alternative/dp/1839217715

[Anonymous No.55535264]

TLD anybody already mention AI/chatGPT ? I wonder why NY tradding firm don t do it.....

[Anonymous No.55535270]

>>55535253
(although quantopian went bust but you can still understand how a backtest is done)

[Anonymous No.55535273]

>>55535225
I recognize your faggot replies. Get a life loser

[Anonymous No.55535291]

>>55535273
Penis+kirby = you
Penis man. Repulsive

[Anonymous No.55535298]

>>55535291
>Penis man. Repulsive
i m a women. show respect

[Anonymous No.55535478]

>>55535253
>https://www.amazon.com/Machine-Learning-Algorithmic-Trading-alternative/dp/1839217715
The book blows IMHO. The libraries the guy uses were abandoned by the original developer and the book is extremely long winded and not well written. It's also not very helpful if you don't know shit like OP apparently does.

[Anonymous No.55535561]

>>55535237
ok so why are you complaining?
programming execution is very easy.
you dont even need to code much nowadays, just plug in certain parameters or create a function with your custom logic on existing trading bots that are available on exchanges and 3rd party services like 3commas.
the general process is basically:
>research with existing data for statical edges
>formulate a strat with your results
>backtest it, then forward test it
>if your comfortable with the forward test results in a lab environment, then you either A: build your own execution bot and apply it to an API or B: use preexisting services to execute the trades for you given a set of parameters or outs from a func/strat
>>55535089
this OP doesn;t know that even if he does find a profitable strategy, it won't last for too long and he'll have to actively go back to the lab to formulate another one. that time spent is better deferred to the pros for a fee or just simply buy and hold with long time frame in mind.

[Anonymous No.55535584]

>>55535253
> muh Jansen ml4t
This is purely academic. It's good if you're fresh out of school and need to learn how to code. Note that his notebooks don't work out of the box (they're based on scraping yahoo finance and nasdaq which now paywalled or severely rate limited downloading their data).
In any case, remember that this is a 0 sum game and the exchange's bot can frontrun everyone. You literally can't outsmart the jew without becoming a jew yourself.

[Anonymous No.55535807]

>>55535561
>it won't last for too long and he'll have to actively go back to the lab to formulate another one
Nope, nigger. You can manually observe my method since 2013. High accuracy, dumbass. I just need to backtest to account for the fails

[Anonymous No.55535842]

>>55535093
You're in the Desperation stage aren't you anon

[Anonymous No.55535855]

The only money to be made with bots is through sniping and arbing. Want to know why gas prices got so bad last bullrun? It was all front runner bots trying to outbid each other, often to the point of LOSING money to avoid a failed transaction.

You have to really know what the fuck you're doing and who you're up against. The space has already been dug into by people much smarter than you

[Anonymous No.55536022]

>>55535093
You fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.55536134]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52ErSpBX0F8

[Anonymous No.55536169]

>>55535071
>Is there a bootcamp to learn
no in general

[Anonymous No.55536192]

I can give you a template of one i made that exactly replicates binance rsi, ema, etc charts but you'd be paying for it. telegram Inzhei.

[Anonymous No.55536218]

>>55535842
Uh no? I have my portfolio. I just know my method can make 7 figs
>>55535855
Wrong. You don't know what bots even do, lol. It's literally what I do manually, but instead want to refine it to get a better R:R while getting the emotional side out. It's that simple. I legit am confident I can make $100 turn into 6-7 figs
>>55536022
You fucking retard monkey bitch
>>55536192
I'm good, but thanks. I'd rather just try the method I have in mind

[Anonymous No.55536226]

>>55535071
I used to think like you pal, turns out there is a lot of ideas and no money in a lot of places in the world and you're not special. Want to make a dream come true? Get those tokens where you can make x2 or x3 (like epep), get money and then start thinking that you're a genius AFTER your idea get successful, not before

[Anonymous No.55536236]

>>55536218
The template teaches you how to start making a bot for a person with limited python skills and how to implement simple trading strategies using binance api.

[Anonymous No.55536267]

I wrote a script that buys new dextools listings based on certain factors. Even buying $15 gives crazy returns when you're basically the first person buying after the devs and insiders. You need to filter out the blatant scams though

[Anonymous No.55536602]

>>55536226
Shut the fuck up. I have seniority over you
>>55536267
That pretty genius tb'h. More so during meme seasons

[Anonymous No.55536729]

>>55535071
if its normie ta-based strategies where you trade directionally trend or mean reverting, just code it in tradingview to have a backtest.
it will save you some time.
if its more complex, use something like amibroker

>bootcamp
there are millions of youtube videos.

[Anonymous No.55536758]

>>55536267
Do you use dextools-python to access the API?

[Anonymous No.55536776]

>>55536267
>you need to filter out the scams.
and how is that going for you?

[Anonymous No.55536902]

>>55536218
>I legit am confident I can make $100 turn into 6-7 figs
holy shit, absolute retard confirmed

[Anonymous No.55537015]

>>55536902
You have done nothing but post retarded vomit here. Kys

[Anonymous No.55537072]

>>55535071
https://www.liberatedstocktrader.com/ai-stock-trading/
Coding your own bot is a waste of time - use somebody else's bot and you can start losing all you money today.

[Anonymous No.55537126]

>>55537015
you're either trolling or a legit retard who wants to learn "how to trade a bot" and think it will make you rich because you were lucky one month over 5 years. too retarded to understand why your bAcKtEsT will fail live.

[Anonymous No.55537167]

>>55537126
You're a newfag that doesn't know the first thing about TA. Aka you're a moron that should stay in reddit

[Anonymous No.55537173]

>>55537072
I don't want someone else's. My method is legit

[Anonymous No.55537302]

>>55537173
show p&l

[Anonymous No.55537320]

>>55537302
It's not good hence why I want a bot. I have had nearly 20 trades go well only for one or two to fuck it up. I need to be able to spot why they fail more accurately and on top of that play around with the stop losses better to be able to improve the r:r. Manually doing this is not realistic. I need a bot that can backtest so that it shows me how the r:r varies based on the leverage and stop loss

[Anonymous No.55537328]

>>55537302
Basically the accuracy is insanely high, but I have no plan set up for the few times when it fails

[Anonymous No.55537362]

>>55535071
Bard came out in the EU today. I was feeding it TradingView charts with some different indicators, as literal images, and it gave some pretty good advice. I got it to output possible trades to make in JSON format with a lengthy explanation too. I currently have two(albeit small) positions open, which were 100% cooked up from Bard.

[Anonymous No.55537364]

>>55535093
Meh, backtesting doesn't help that much, as it doesn't take a lot of things into consideration, as orders books, slippage, etc.
Sandboxing (which you can do with binance) is a little better, but it still is a bit different from the real thing, which will still lead to your strategy underperforming, and sometimes by a lot.

[Anonymous No.55537371]

>>55537364
>Meh, backtesting doesn't help that much, as it doesn't take a lot of things into consideration, as orders books, slippage, etc.
Backtesting would help a lot. The whole point to backtesting is to min-max the r:r which is key yo making money from trading

[Anonymous No.55537381]

>>55537364
If you really want to backtest, you could try to use shorter timeframes and simulate order books and a bit of randomness. Say, if you want to treade on 15m data take 1 minute data and build a fake order book with the 1minut candles in 15m windows.

[Anonymous No.55537399]

>>55537381
I wouldn't simulate randomness. Using Binance or Coinmarketcap data you can calculate accurate moving averages, and appying statistics, you can get quite accurate backtesting results. Algofags don't want you to know this.

[Anonymous No.55537407]

>>55537371
Though you are minmaxing on real data, with backtesting all the actual mechanisms of trading are discarded, and it always assumes you enter at your price and the order is 100% fulfilled instantly, which is horribly different from a real situation and will fuck your r:r. Especially if your doing swing trading - momentum following.

[Anonymous No.55537430]

>>55537407
>Though you are minmaxing on real data,
If you mean real time, my method uses history.
>with backtesting all the actual mechanisms of trading are discarded,
Why? It's just using previous established data. For instance if I showed you what I looked at, you'd see it's accurate about 90% of the time. Literally all I'd want to do is better manage the 10% of failures so they don't annihilate the gains.
>and it always assumes you enter at your price and the order is 100% fulfilled instantly,
That's never been an issue for me. Also the method I was using was based on market orders. Not limit orders. It's also for BTC exclusively.

[Anonymous No.55537486]

>>55537430
to clarify further, all I need is for the bot to do exactly what I'be been doing already. Only that I need to have a proper plan for the losses which I can't do without playing around with it so I can min-max the r:r

[Anonymous No.55537496]

>>55537430
What timeframes do you use for trading and what is the average duration of your positions?

With bot trading people usually use limit orders as that makes sure the order gets fulfilled or not at the set price, with market orders you risk getting fucked by volatility.

>Literally all I'd want to do is better manage the 10% of failures so they don't annihilate the gains.

That's literally the problem of every single strategy out there.
Once I made a strategy that was able to get >100% gains every 30 days (if one only accounted for the 90% correct entry) but the 10% failures, which were always backstop triggers, that strategy was loosing 25% overall.

It's kinda easy to get good entry point, the real trick is learning to avoid bad entry.

Just out of curioisty what are you using, freqtrade?

[Anonymous No.55537499]

>>55537486
And by playing around I mean making little adjustments, back testing, and then seeing how my little changes affect the r:r until I get the r:r I'm happy with

[Anonymous No.55537540]

>>55537496
>What timeframes do you use for trading and what is the average duration of your positions?
Daily and the time varies. Could work by the first 4 hr candle or even up to the last one of the day
>With bot trading people usually use limit orders as that makes sure the order gets fulfilled or not at the set price, with market orders you risk getting fucked by volatility.
Maybe if you play with like heavy 6 figs. I've had no problems with having it enter where I want when I use market orders. It being ever so slightly off also isn't a huge deal since it's not a scalp.
>what are you using, freqtrade?
I don't know coding. I just do it manually. Really I don't even mind paying for this, but I don't trust strangers. Also would prefer keeping my method a secret

[Anonymous No.55537544]

>>55537496
>Once I made a strategy that was able to get >100% gains every 30 days (if one only accounted for the 90% correct entry) but the 10% failures, which were always backstop triggers, that strategy was loosing 25% overall.
shhh, let babby believes he will turn $100 into 6 and 7 figures

[Anonymous No.55537566]

>>55537544
Look. The nigger that can't do TA is back

[Anonymous No.55537801]

>>55537566
as you already said, you also seem to have a hard time.
calm down.
it is easy to get high off hopium.

IF you can not execute the strategy manually with success it means the strategy is too quick.
if it is too quick, the fees are probably a big problem.

if you it is a slow strategy, there is no reason for you not to be able to run it by hand to begin with.
stop being a pussy.

if its a slow strategy and you still cant execute it by hand, then your rules are fucked or there is something else which is not working/making sense

[Anonymous No.55538034]

>>55535584
>he doesnt know frontrunning was made illegal