Vitalik’s new blog post

[Anonymous No.55354510]

Follow up to the ccip/ens one
https://vitalik.ca/general/2023/06/20/deeperdive.html
>there may be more clever solutions
Call me crazy, but it kinda seems like he’s doing damage control before ccip blows people’s skulls off

[Anonymous No.55354518]

[Anonymous No.55354529]

Reminder that Chainlink CCIP is not what Vitalik is talking about. CCIP is a standard that allows for querying of off chain data. Chainlink CCIP "cross chain interoperability protocol" is a bridge. Not what Vitalik is referring to.

https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-3668

[Anonymous No.55354536]

>>55354529
Reminder that you should kill yourself

[Anonymous No.55354559]

>>55354529
From the same person that authored that proposal- pic related
They’re pieces of the exact same thing

[Anonymous No.55354572]

>>55354536
Why are you mad? I only stated a fact here. Don't take it personal.

>>55354559
It just happens that they have the same acronym. They're independent. See the link above.

[Anonymous No.55354579]

>>55354510
Notice the phrasing
>any chain
Hmm, maybe a chain isn’t necessary

[Anonymous No.55354607]

>>55354572
You're wrong. Vitalik and Dominic have already been talking since 2015 about the "world computer"

ICP and ETH will be integrated to solve ETH's scaling issues and to finally remove the need for big tech server hosting.

[Anonymous No.55354610]

ICP solves this, and soon.

[Anonymous No.55354616]

>>55354572
We’re arguing semantics. It’s part of the same shift. The ens ccip read aspect is being handled first. The name being literally the same is not an accident.

[Anonymous No.55354632]

>>55354529
Also, Chainlink ccip is not a bridge. Although they say they’re releasing one for reference purposes.

[Anonymous No.55354661]

>>55354616
>>55354632
If they were the same, then why isn't Chainlink mentioned in the standard or both Vitalik posts? Not even once? I rest my case.

[Anonymous No.55354691]

>>55354661
>>55354607
>>55354610

you're retarded, and completely missing the point

[Anonymous No.55354700]

>>55354661
He has a long history of purposefully not mentioning them. The narrative here is that cll’s domination is not his preference but he sees the writing on the wall.

[Anonymous No.55354710]

>>55354700
I’ll let you put this one together

[Anonymous No.55354712]

Sounds like the perfect job for uniswap, qnt, xrp and api3.
I can't think any other project more qualified to handle this.

[Anonymous No.55354763]

>>55354529
What is vatilik talking about then?

[Anonymous No.55354799]

>>55354763

[Anonymous No.55354805]

>>55354529
>CCIP is a standard that allows for querying of off chain data
you mean an oracle????????????????????
that thing link has been about for the past 6 years????????????

[Anonymous No.55354814]

>>55354799
I'm an idiot...so is Chainlink legit or not?

[Anonymous No.55354823]

>>55354700
Interesting how you have an answer to everything, huh? Everyone is conspiring against your favorite shitcoin. Open your eyes. Wake up.

>>55354763
He's talking about the standard here >>55354529

>>55354805
This has nothing to do with Chainlink and you know it. And heads up, it's not the only oracle in the space.

[Anonymous No.55354840]

>>55354814
chainlink is a scam made by a two man team out of a nail salon in the cayman islands. obviously Uniswap will handle all price feeds and cross-chain interoperability.

see:

https://gov.uniswap.org/t/uni-should-become-an-oracle-token/11988

[Anonymous No.55354877]

>>55354823
I’m the one with an answer to everything? You’ve provided no substantive arguments.

[Anonymous No.55354881]

>>55354510
>vitalik didnt mention your favorite coin marines
>but go read between the lines to pump the view count!
>fight with vcs on twitter for views!
>its real important marines!
lol no thanks bro

[Anonymous No.55354908]

>>55354823
it has nothing to do with what you're insinuating as well lmao

icp/dfinity + Eth has been in the works for years now. read up on wanxiang

[Anonymous No.55354916]

>>55354881
Never told anyone to argue on Twitter and trying to determine when Vitalik is purposefully not talking about link is a time honored biz tradition

[Anonymous No.55354926]

>>55354823
>This has nothing to do with Chainlink and you know it
probably not because vitalik is desperately trying to stop chainlink from destroying his mafia
>And heads up, it's not the only oracle in the space.
it literally is. it's the only real oracle. the only one to never be hacked or exploited.

[Anonymous No.55354932]

>>55354916
>clicking links to fight with a hostile space is a time honored tradition
yeah gonna pass bro good luck with getting your views

[Anonymous No.55354941]

>>55354926
Vitalik likes chainlink more than you think, see his recent comments about eigenlayer lol

[Anonymous No.55354973]

>>55354529
>>55354572
>>55354661
>>55354823

[Anonymous No.55354977]

>>55354932
I have not linked to Twitter a single time in here and the accounts ive screenshotted are not my own

[Anonymous No.55354981]

>>55354908
What do you think the better play is all in ICP or CHAINLINK

[Anonymous No.55355004]

>>55354981
you had 2 years
no more spoonfeeding

tdlr: LINK is fucking obsolete bro, you don't need oracles anymore

[Anonymous No.55355196]

>>55355004
Vitaliks post even has the icp symbol and people still don’t get it

[Anonymous No.55355248]

>>55354908
>wanxiang
don't tell them about this

[Anonymous No.55355271]

>>55354529
it is so tiresome... i have finally lost my sanity

[Anonymous No.55355277]

>>55354700
>>55354610
>>55354607
>ctrl+f "flare"
>zero results
you guys have no idea, do you

[Anonymous No.55355313]

>>55355196
>icp symbol

[Anonymous No.55355315]

wait icp isn't just a meme? u guys are talking about "internet computer", right? that's supposed to help get eth off AWS somehow?

[Anonymous No.55355340]

>>55354607
>The world computer
That’s because his mother is literally on the ICP team to make fat cash dropping bags on you stupid fucks
>He thinks it’s an accident

Lol, roflmao even

[Anonymous No.55355346]

>>55354700
spoonfeed pls ser. why doesn't he like chainlink? i don't get how he benefits from pretending it doesn't exist

[Anonymous No.55355347]

>>55354529
>>55354616
They changed the name after ENS received a grant from the Chainlink team.

October 22, 2021 ENS gets the Chainlink grant:
https://blog.chain.link/ens-grant-for-ccip-read-development/

CCIP-Read used to be called Durin:
Wayback December 1st, 2021 uses the 'Durin' name:
https://web.archive.org/web/20211201194203/https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-3668

Wayback December 21st, 2021 calls it 'CCIP Read':
https://web.archive.org/web/20211221001352/https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-3668>

[Anonymous No.55355513]

>>55355346
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X210gtpOQK4

[Anonymous No.55355526]

That is called circling the waggon
And you need to go back

[Anonymous No.55355710]

>>55354877
I simply pointed out the fact that this has nothing to do with Chainlink. And I asked a simple question: why wasn't Chainlink mentioned once? You answered with unfounded accusations against Vitalik's intentions.

>>55354926
>mafia
Stopped reading right there.

>>55355347
Again, why isn't Chainlink mentiomed once in the standard page or Vitalik's both posts?

[Anonymous No.55355881]

>>55355710
I think Chainlink isn't mentioned because Vitalik is talking about a different CCIP. The Chainlink team gave a grant to a competing product which is also using the CCIP name. That other CCIP is the one Vitalik is talking about. Vitalik also won't mention the name of that competing CCIP product which definitely does NOT involve Chainlink.

[Anonymous No.55356127]

>>55355881
https://www.npmjs.com/package/@chainlink/ccip-read-server
https://github.com/smartcontractkit/ccip-read#readme

[Anonymous No.55356133]

>>55355881
No, not quite. They’re complimentary parts of the same thing, not competitors. My guess is that they realized they could split the issue in two but we might not really know until the whole thing is out and working.
>>55355347
Thanks
Nick keeps calling the ens-linked product CCIP read. The name suggests what it’s not capable of, no?

[Anonymous No.55356174]

A few other things: ccip read was designed WITH cll but I don’t believe it uses the token. BUT, it obviously is designed to work with ccip proper. Kind of makes sense why they’d want to do two votes. One of which doesn’t enshrine Chainlink to quote the same degree.

[Anonymous No.55356192]

>>55356174
its just an example of what ccip can do reading offchain data is an oracle use case and yes it uses the chainlink LINK token you can see this in the repos i linked above

[Anonymous No.55356218]

>>55356192
Interesting. You might be right, but it seems like some of what it enables is free.

[Anonymous No.55356239]

>>55356218
>zero gas costs
no wonder the ethereum mafia are mad. it still uses chainlink nodes to fetch you offchain data and you pay those nodes in link tokens like any other chainlink service. ccip read is part of the chainlink products suite

[Anonymous No.55356537]

you fags fall into op trap everything, he just wants normies to keep seeing link shill threads he thinks by making these silly threads the result will be the price will rise

[Anonymous No.55356561]

>>55355347
based anon blowing that fudtard out of the water
>n-no guys, CCIP is not CCIP! Sell immediately!

[Anonymous No.55356563]

>>55356537
Reading your post with an Indian accent makes it make more sense.

[Anonymous No.55356805]

>>55354529
You’re talking about CCIP Read.

Chainlink Labs has been developing CCIP Write

[Anonymous No.55356808]

>>55356805
So is Vitalik talking about link or what

[Anonymous No.55356826]

>>55356808
He’s talking about CCIP

[Anonymous No.55356864]

>>55356563
>phucking your mom with an Indian accent makes it make more sense.

[Anonymous No.55356871]

>>55356826
Eths CCIP or links?

[Anonymous No.55356883]

>>55356864
Did I strike a nerve?

[Anonymous No.55356885]

>I-I do not hate chainlink…
This creepy rat faggot behaves the way looks. I hope he keeps seething when chainlink makes eth absolutely fucking useless

[Anonymous No.55357291]

>>55356805
>>55356871
>>55356127
>>>55355881 #
>https://www.npmjs.com/package/@chainlink/ccip-read-server
>https://github.com/smartcontractkit/ccip-read#readme
its all chainlink backend see for yourself

[Anonymous No.55357310]

>>55357291
Why doesn’t the money skeleton say Chainlink then? Is the MEV cartel that powerful

[Anonymous No.55357440]

>>55357310
he doesn't hate chainlink but he will not advertise it apparently. doesn't matter. its all chainlink backend and all chainlink services need to be paid in link tokens. the front end for ccip read is ens. Its cool when devs can use tooling from different projects to build stuff like this but I remember back in 2020 ccip read cost a core ens team member his job. vitalik told hudson jameson former chainlink adviser to do something to stop it being built and that's what happened. he rounded up some leftists from a discord group and they went through the devs internet history found some christian stuff and on that basis they cancelled him.

[Anonymous No.55357544]

>>55357440
Notice fudders go silent after you mention this. They’ll try to slide this thread now.

[Anonymous No.55357567]

>>55357440
Bumping again. When fudders make this thread again tomorrow post this exact same thing. They REALLY get riled up when you immediately disprove their fud threads and usually start tweaking.

[Anonymous No.55357575]

>>55357440
So Vitalik delayed CCIP? Sounds like he hates chain links

[Anonymous No.55357584]

>>55355347
>...prysm will either join or become public facing cheerleaders
>posted 3rd of July 2022
>in October 2022, Offchain Labs buys Prysmatic Labs
dayyyyyyyyuuuuum

[Anonymous No.55357607]

>>55357544
>>55357567
kek yeah no one will write about this event in their ethereum books but I remember and I will continue to remind these fucks what they did

[Anonymous No.55357619]

>>55357607
delegated my ens to brantly because of this episode

[Anonymous No.55357625]

>>55357575
he at least delayed ccip read in this instance. i do not have an indepth list of all the times they do pathetic shit like this but yeah they are real devious doing things like not mentioning chainlink using advisers to hatch plots against fellow devs and all vitalik does is write blogs. vitalik is basically a less informed chainlinkgod these days kek and hudson works for polygon and still does mev stuff

[Anonymous No.55357636]

>>55357619
based

[Anonymous No.55357637]

>>55357440
If that's actually what happened with Brantly then that's fucking scandalous. It was weird how that tranny internet mob appeared out of nowhere then disappeared the instant he got fired.
That was a massive own goal for ENS, Brantly was probably the best community manager in all of crypto.

[Anonymous No.55357645]

>>55357584
wtf i never noticed that part of that larp

[Anonymous No.55357650]

>>55354510
>"Oracles" (at least, the kind of tech that some defi people call "oracles") are not an acceptable solution here: wallet key management is a very security-critical low-level functionality, and so it should depend on at most a few pieces of very simple, cryptographically trustless low-level infrastructure.
what an evasive little queer

[Anonymous No.55357676]

brantly is right. governance is an attack vector. thats how the banking elite got the drop on the government when they created the federal reserve
https://twitter.com/BrantlyMillegan/status/1669764751021203457

[Anonymous No.55357688]

>>55357637
yep that's exactly what happened except it blew up it hudson's face when the black woman shut him down and he had to blogpost a thesis length apology about it kek

[Anonymous No.55357737]

>>55357567
????
This isn’t a “FUD thread”

[Anonymous No.55357771]

>>55357676
Fuck that's based. Those are my exact feelings about DAOs. They automatically attract the literal worst jannie tier power grifters who will do it for free as long as they get some taste of control.

[Anonymous No.55357823]

>>55357440
>>55357567
>>55357637
Didn't sergey appear on a podcast recently with Brantly.eth? I thought it was interesting because Brantley is supposedly Le Bad Phobe. Maybe I'm misremembering though, cuz I can't find it on youtube now when I look for it.

>>55357688
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEcCEb_TFzg

[Anonymous No.55357898]

>>55357823
>Didn't sergey appear on a podcast recently with Brantly.eth?
would watch. anyone have the link?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEcCEb_TFzg
kek didn't know there was a record of the space. was it last year? thought it was longer ago than that

[Anonymous No.55357915]

>>55357823
>>55357898
he did not do a podcast with brantly

you are probably confusing the one he did with chainlinkgod or more recently the real visions crypto podcast which he's done a few times

[Anonymous No.55357957]

>>55354529
The team and their sub 80iq shills will not correct you

[Anonymous No.55357971]

>>55357823
>>55357915
I swear I saw a youtube vid where he was on a zoom call with several other people, one of whom was something.eth. It must have been somebody else.

[Anonymous No.55357995]

>>55357575
No you moron. The team did because kf audits

[Anonymous No.55358084]

>>55357957
what team? you can literally read the ccip read code in the chainlink github kek
https://www.npmjs.com/package/@chainlink/ccip-read-server
>https://github.com/smartcontractkit/ccip-read#readme
its all there in black and white

[Anonymous No.55358133]

If you niggers want to speculate on something I would pay attention to things happening in camp mev and why they are happening
https://twitter.com/ObadiaAlex/status/1671151059585097729
>flashbots founder stepping down
>vulnerable to centralization from cross domain mev and exclusion orderflow
and the context of this thread especially
>>55356218
>zero gas costs
but they all still pay fees in link to chainlink nodes

>cross domain
>cross chain

>zero gas costs
>exclusion overflow


thank you for your service *salutes*

[Anonymous No.55358141]

>>55358133
I saw the Flashbots head stepping down. With a number of not very subtle statements to the effect of "Remember why we're in this, to be the good guys".

[Anonymous No.55358181]

>>55358141
They believe they are the good guys because they created revenue and made ETH what it is today by guaranteeing profit to certain groups otherwise why would anyone keep making useless tokens and thats all ETH is a token printer and finality machine.
Writing's on the wall frens they will continue to confuse the issue by using different terms or pretending its different thing like they have done ITT but its the same debate.
In the near future whenever there is a gas crisis or even something hinting at a gas crisis ccip will save you money by diverting order flows to another blockchain helping the entire crypto ecosystem and defeating the one thing they have going for them

[Anonymous No.55358248]

>>55358084
Read the latest blog ccip section. They want to do more audits.

[Anonymous No.55358257]

>>55358248
Oh shit sorry i read the wrong post. The chainlink team will not correct the record and let everyone say whatever bs to make the look like it has more going on.

[Anonymous No.55358285]

>>55354536
kek, got his ass

[Anonymous No.55358319]

>>55358181
Definitely some interesting phrasing in his exit message.

[Anonymous No.55358420]

>>55355881
Sergey farting and sharding all over the place again...literally clearing the room

[Anonymous No.55358470]

>>55358319
So much guilt but no remorse

[Anonymous No.55358529]

>>55358319
it's a beautiful dance with Moloch you just wouldn't understand

[Anonymous No.55358704]

>>55354529
Anon, I...

[Anonymous No.55358717]

I’m never rubbing my clit again after seeing vitalism’s face

[Anonymous No.55358722]

>>55354510
Why is vitalik so afraid of chainlink.?

[Anonymous No.55358757]

>>55358704
HOISTED BY HIS OWN PETARD

[Anonymous No.55358851]

>>55358704
There's 1 year difference between the two posts. Just because Chainlink is paying to help the development of the standard, doesn't mean it's the same as their bridge. I know it's confusing to everyone since Chainlink decided to call their bridge CCIP the same acronym as the standard that predates it.

[Anonymous No.55358890]

>>55358851
It's literally the read part of CCIP.
Chainlink's CCIP is what allows ENS to cross onto other chains.

[Anonymous No.55358898]

>>55358851
>acronym as the standard that predates it
Then it would be called Chainlink Durin

CCIP-Read used to be called Durin:
Wayback December 1st, 2021 uses the 'Durin' name:
https://web.archive.org/web/20211201194203/https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-3668

Wayback December 21st, 2021 calls it 'CCIP Read':
https://web.archive.org/web/20211221001352/https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-3668>

[Anonymous No.55358939]

>>55356174
why would chainlink work on and financially support something that doesn’t use or help cll plus takes away a cut of the market they try to corner
stop acting dumb

[Anonymous No.55359009]

>>55354510
Good, even pedo's will bend the knee

[Anonymous No.55359082]

COCK
COCK
COCK

[Anonymous No.55359084]

These are the good threads that make me wade through 6 more months of neck deep shit looking for the next one.

[Anonymous No.55359162]

>>55357310
vitalik wanted everyone to move on chain
for businesses, corps, institutions to set up their wallets there
it was going to be a wonderful world of transparency and freedom
he is seeing that vision fail and instead after 10 years he just has an ecosystem of mev theft, defi speculation and jpegs
chainlink is going to help bring the world he never wanted

also all those who are fudding that chainlink isn't connected to ccip-read.... come on, it's bottom of bear, we're over this shit

[Anonymous No.55359191]

>>55359162
Hi

[Anonymous No.55359278]

>>55355346

[Anonymous No.55359567]

>>55354536
Reminder, altcoins are dead

[Anonymous No.55361752]

>>55359162
good screencap
>>55355347
i completely forgot about the chainlink grant
how could anyone possibly argue these things aren't related?

[Anonymous No.55361780]

>>55359162
i will say though– if you really think the system sergey is building isn't any better than what we have, i think you're mistaken
the blackrock tie-ins are kind of scary though
i think we all have the sense if we don't make it then we're in for a lifetime of brutal servitude
regarding crypto becoming more "legit" in a bad way- i also think that the corporate version and the cypherpunk vision will co-exist pretty much indefinitely

[Anonymous No.55361840]

>>55358890
why are you guys so obsessed with this ENS shit

[Anonymous No.55361899]

>>55354823
Daily reminder that the LINK FUD is coming from a cabal of low-T activist VC norwoods.

[Anonymous No.55361906]

>>55361899
TFD Inshallah

[Anonymous No.55361923]

>>55361899
>>55361906
why are people literally addicted to grifting lmao how can these people not help themselves?

[Anonymous No.55361940]

>>55361899
LINK fud comes from a LINK/ETH chart. No further words needed.

[Anonymous No.55361956]

>>55361940
if only that were true, it would save the fudders an awful lot of words

[Anonymous No.55362263]

>>55354529
Sorry mate, my bet is you're delusional