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55255931 No.55255931 [Reply] [Original]

Is going back to school later in life (25+) idiotic?

>Older than all the students so you look like a weirdo
>If you do well, it doesn't really mater because you're a "grown man" "who's supposed to have life figured out by now"
>If you don't do so well, it's even more pathetic
>People expect a grown adult to somehow be more experienced, even if you basically have the same level of knowledge/skills regardless of whether it's a 20 year old or 45 year old intern

There's got to be so cut off for where it's too old for gramps, even though everyone always says "it's never too late to go back to school".

>> No.55255944

>>55255931
Paul stamets is one of the world's leading mycologists
he was a lumberjack and didn't get his PhD until like 37

you're Gucci m8

>> No.55255954

>>55255931
There was this 30 year old dude that lived in the dorms when I was a freshman and we would always talk about how old and creepy he was.
That's what's going to happen to you, OP.

>> No.55255966

>>55255954
Was he actually doing creepy things though, or was he just a normal guy going about his life?

>> No.55256002

>>55255954
My buddy was like that when he put himself through community college at 33, now he’s making bank as a lawyer at 37 while those little faggots OD on fentanyl

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>>55256002

Nice.

>> No.55256046

>>55255966
>creepy guy is creepy
would not really be relevant. surely there is night class on online route

>> No.55256066

>>55255931
I got my degree last year at the age of 29. I have a way better job now so I'd say it was worth it

>> No.55256086

>>55256066
How did people treat you in general? Did you tell people your age or try to hide it somehow?

>> No.55256146

>>55255931
Holy fuck, the bitching. You should be more concerned that people might see you as a panty wearing bitch than a dude in his mid 20s.

Pick a good degree, STEM or Accounting, and you will be among the type of people who won't judge you.

>> No.55256160

>>55256146
I am doing CS but I feel like people judge me anyway

>> No.55256179

>>55255931
It’s quite simple anon if you are attractive then it’s ok if you are ugly it will be seen as idiotic

>> No.55256192

>>55256160
That's a good degree anon, best of luck and don't worry about being the old guy in class, by the time you graduate it's all water under the bridge by then.

>> No.55256204

>>55256192
I just feel pathetic next to people in my classes being smarter than me despite the age difference. It's probably just in my head and I'm overthinking it though.

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55256239

you're going to get older anyway, do you want to be 26..27..28 with or without a degree? shrimple as

>> No.55256255

>>55256204
Best thing you can do is just focus on you and get what you want out of it. I think it's pretty cool wjat you're doing and I think of you just focus on doing the work and achieving what you set out to achieve you can't go wrong.

>> No.55256256

>>55256239
Nope some people just need to give up

>> No.55256264

Thank you bros. I guess it's a rhetorical question since it's obviously better than not having a degree, I just feel self-conscious about it all the time.

>> No.55256265

>>55255931
Age doesn't matter, but going back to school is retarded. Jesuits and Jews have distorted knowledge such that the history, science, literature, and sometimes even the mathematics is totally pozzed. If all you want is a certification, a JD or MD or MS in CompSci, you might as well just invest in kneepads.

Get an education by learning what you want, and doing what you want, on your own. Don't ask anyone's permission, and don't play gay shabbos goy games.

>> No.55256276

>>55255931
PhD here, I got my degree at 38 because I was working before, never too late for school

>> No.55256277

>>55255931
Nigger I'm turning 31 this year and I'm just now taking the MCAT. Go to uni when you're good and ready for it.

>> No.55256290

>>55255931
My classes always had some 34+ yo people and they probably lied about their age. Honestly though, I didn't do any better socially than they did. Biggest problem is working full time and overtime while in college.

>> No.55256293

Honestly go online school, get your degree in 6 months, get a masters in another 6, and then be done with it forever.

>> No.55256303

>>55256204
Dude you're 25, not 60. You don't have wrinkles, or grey hair or use a walking stick.

Nobody is going to figure out that you're older than 18 unless you bring it up.

And if someone wants to be friends with you, they're not gonna walk away the second they found out you're older.

>> No.55256317

>>55256086
I never tried hiding my age and it rarely ever got brought up, but whenever it did no one seemed to mind. I would just get a "congrats" for going back to school.

>> No.55256321

>>55255931
Time is going to pass anyways, so right now is the youngest you can get your degree.

Also in night or online classes there will be more older people naturally

>> No.55256334

>>55255931
>Older than all the students so you look like a weirdo
>If you do well, it doesn't really mater because you're a "grown man" "who's supposed to have life figured out by now"
Imo none of that shit matters in school, I barely ever even talked to or cared about who the other people in my classes were but I do remember seeing people in my classes who were clearly older. But thinking back I never knew anyone's real age so basically if you don't look old people probably won't even know you're old lmao. Personally I wouldn't care either way.

I've been thinking about going back too (for master's) but what I'm actually worried about is what companies think. If you look at it from a company's perspective why would they hire someone who is old with a degree instead of someone who is young with the same degree. I think that's the real issue. I wouldn't worry about what people in school think at all personally.

>> No.55256339

>>55256334
How old are you?
If anything, companies are more bias in favour of older employees since they know you're not some snot-nosed kid that'll cry like a snowflake at the smallest inconvenience.

>> No.55256343

>>55256303
>And if someone wants to be friends with you, they're not gonna walk away the second they found out you're older.

Nah they've definitely gotten judgemental if/when it comes up. A lot of the time yeah they just assume you're the same age as them, at least in my experience.

>>55256317
Fair enough. What degree?

>>55256334
>but what I'm actually worried about is what companies think. If you look at it from a company's perspective why would they hire someone who is old with a degree instead of someone who is young with the same degree. I think that's the real issue.

Yeah exactly!

I didn't necessarily mean just solely other students, that other perspective as well. I guess if you just don't advertise it outright it looks fine? Since they'll just judge you based on your resume.

But yeah that's kinda a concern too when I fill out internship applications and they're aimed at 1st and 2nd years.

>> No.55256405

>>55256343
Okay, you know what anon? You're right, you're gonna get judged the hell. When I went to uni back a few years ago, we used to laugh at everybody that was a couple of years older.

25? Pfft, we mocked 23 year olds and said they should be doing a masters course, not studying a three year bachelor's course.

It's over anon, don't bother coming to campus because the age-police will come and arrest you.

>> No.55256410

>>55255931
nobody cares buddy

>> No.55256454

>>55256405
Anon, you don't understand. I'm already back in school and just finished 1st year. I obviously don't mean people pointing their fingers and laughing, I just mean making it harder to make connections and potentially employers judging you.

>> No.55256470

>>55255931
>waaah waaah I’m a pussy

If you’re too scared to take risks in life, you’re never going to make it.

>> No.55256497

>>55255931
there are a lot of adults (30+) at my uni, it shouldnt be a problem bro, and if you wanna do it just do it, if you think age is a problem then do it now before youre 30 and asking the same question

>> No.55256544

>>55256343
>>55256454
>>55256497
Oh wait I missed the "25+" part if you're under under 30 and worried about any of this you're retarded lmao. This question becomes relevant around 30+ or 40+ imo.

>> No.55256679

People go to college on the GI Bill after serving in the military all the time wtf is wrong with you? Who cares what any retarded zoomer thinks anyway? I am graduating with my BS in Cybersecurity and Information Assurance in December this year and I will be 34 who gives a fuck

>> No.55256703

31-year-old law student

i just got an 18-year-old babe's number at the pool today. going back to school rools

>> No.55256710

It's a cost/value decision. If you think you can get a degree that will get you a better-paying career, it's probably worth it.
> but it's embarrassing :(((
Fuck what other people think. Do what's best for your future.

>> No.55256789

Damn there is a lot of us in here with similar situations I guess

Thank you bros.

>> No.55256807

>>55255931
You can be the guy freshmen treat as their dad

>> No.55256978

>>55255931
people who worry about this are usually losers.
if you want to get ahead in life you won’t give a fuck how old you are.

>> No.55257316

>>55256179
B R U T A L

>> No.55257431

>>55256334
Why would they hire younger? If you're older you most likely have more experience.

>> No.55257576

>>55257431
The assumption was that they both have the same degree and same experience just one of them is older than the other.

>> No.55257586

>>55255931
No
Everybody ages, everyone will be 59 one day, everyone dies one day, it's not a stigma
Lives your own life

College zoomers will love you for
>more money
>better body

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55257608

>>55255931
College =/= high school. Nobody gives a crap about you. I went back at 28 and had no problems.

>> No.55257620

>>55255931
I had a finance course with this 38 year old dude once. The guy already had a comfy job, but had recently received a promotion at his job and his company was paying for him to go back to school to take finance courses for his new role. In that situation, its totally acceptable. Anything outside of that is just billy Madison tier.

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55257744

>>55256703
Went back to get my master's in my early 30s. Pretty much everyone else in the program was under 25 but picking up art school sluts was like shooting fish in a barrel. Was actually quite distracting. Remember anons, prose before hoes

>> No.55257761

>>55255931
stop caring about what the other students there might label you as. I went back to school at 34 and was already at the idgaf attitude so it was easy for me to be around a bunch of zoomers and not internalize what they might think of me. I'm glad I did it. Don't skip out because of what some people you'll never see again think of you for those 4 years you'll see them.

>> No.55257816

You will be fine. Party with them and give them sex advice and you will have a great time

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55257847

>>55257816
and if you're not getting invited to parties you can always start dealing blow

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55257935

>be me
>27
>Spanish class full of 21-24 year olds
>study with a girl of my class one day in the local library
>”No way I thought you were 24”

>> No.55257949

I got crippling depression when I was in school. Just thinking of my day and how I have to get groceries. Just the thought of getting into my car and going there

I dropped out and worked in sales, and alleviated my depression and neuroticism I made friends. I know it’s possible to make friends but it’s insanely hard keeping up with each other
24 and no education, I don’t know if it would be any different if I go back
Don’t know if anyone can relate

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>>55255931
I'm damn near 30 and am in the progress of finishing up the degree I put on hold at 20. 3rd semester into it, about 2/3 of the way done overall, and it's absolutely fine; I have yet to be the oldest dude in the classroom, and the only thing my age has impacted is the degree of disgust I feel towards zoomerisms. If there's something you want to do that requires a degree, there is zero reason not to go get one. I had a successful well paying career, decided I didn't want to do that for the rest of my life, and am now happily manifesting that change.

Just make sure whatever degree you get is worth the capital and temporal costs, though.

>> No.55258026

>>55258015
Just read your other posts; dude, just stop worrying about it. Nobody gives a fuck about your age, and you probably don't want to be friends with the average zoomer anyway. Your university probably has an adult learner center or some shit, I know mine does, go there if you want to make like-minded friends.

Also, I was involved in hiring at my last job, and we always preferred dudes 25+, and I can't imagine internships are any different.

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55258033

>>55257744
>prose before hoes

>> No.55258295

>>55256343
My degree was in supply chain management

>> No.55258303

>>55255931
I went back at 37 & finished at 39

>> No.55258308

>>55257949
Fuck yeah I relate.
Dropped out at 20 due to crippling anxiety and depression at the start of 2nd year when we all had to introduce ourselves.
A couple years of playing video games later I went back to try a different degree and same thing happened - dropped out after 2 weeks, couldn't bare it.
Now 29 with a solid WFH playing with business ideas and starting to network at crypto events.
Gym is a game changer, now have had 0% anxiety and depression for years.

>> No.55258349

>>55258308
> Now 29 with a solid WFH
What kind of job?

Gym really helped me during my teens, but in my 20s it’s not the same i don’t know

>> No.55258617

>>55256179
this

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>>55255931
there was a 30 year old in my class when I first started my degree. he had dropped out of different courses a few times, nobody even realized this until he told us his age.
and I finished my degree at 28 due to unchecked ADHD retardation. nobody even asked me anything about it. just the guy at the office who gave me my diploma made a joke about it.

>> No.55258997

>>55255931
We had this 40-50 year old dude in our classes. Did what I thought about him do anything? No. Stop being a whiny faggot and do what you deem necessary.

>> No.55259297

I have been thinking about starting training as a welder or electrician, it seems to have the same market value as an engineer at a fraction of the time/cost, thoughts?

>> No.55259412

>>55259297
This is what I did, I couldn't find and apprenticeship for welding or electrical work so I went back to get an associates in electromechanical tech.
I got a job in maintenance for a chemical plant right out of school. There was an apprenticeship program that taught me a lot.

two years out of school, and with overtime, I was making just as much as the engineers in my plant and had a fraction of the responsibility.

After 5 years I took a six figure instrumentation job with another company. I don't even work overtime or do physical labor anymore and they're going to pay for my engineering degree if I choose to go for it now.

I've wound up with the same pay and benefits as an engineer.
I know that my story is kind of an outlier, but I'm not the only one with this story. There are plenty of people who do the same in other trades, (welder to weld inspector. ect)

If you treat the trades as a job you'll can have a good life but if you treat it like a career you can really go far.

>> No.55259442

I think you might want to consider if it’s really what you want to do at 30+, but even then it’s not that it’s idiotic. It’s rather just that you should make sure it’s what you want to do. If you’re in your 20s, it’s no problem at all.

>> No.55259482

>>55255931
I went back to med school at 27 and people didn't really believe me when I told them I was 32 by the end because I look quite young. A guy in my promotion was 43 too, former banker, married with children who became a doc too and he clearly didn't seem phased at all.

With women it was so much easier than in my early 20s, it's more difficult with guys however because zoomers have different humor and cultural references. I also didn't really care about befriending them that said.

Ultimately people don't really care and if they do you're supposed to be at an age where you're old enough to give 0 fucks anyway.

>> No.55259493

I know it’s not the same but for what it’s worth, I’m exploring a graduate or progressional program in my 30s. After all the research I’ve done and everyone I’ve talked to, I’m convinced it’s no issue at all. It might even be a plus. If you started an undergraduate around 25 and made good progress, you’d finish about 30-32 and could be doing more or less the same, which again, there’d be no problem with. My brother is going through this right now. He’s 29 and just finished an Associate’s degree. I think he would make a great professor and am encouraging him to pursue a bachelor’s and a master’s into his 30s.

I think the only real concern with older students quite frankly is if it’s not going to work out, you can lose a lot of time. A degree takes years so if you sputter out, it might be a few years into the degree already. So you have to commit. You have to tell yourself that you’re going to finish on time and if you hit a road block you either are going to commit to seeing it through with an appropriate timeline in your head or you’re going to have a solid escape plan. You don’t want to sink in 3 years, fail out, and be left 3 years older with nothing to show for it.

>> No.55259502

>>55255931
it‘s based and awesome if you‘re semi handsome and have muscles. Zoomer pussy loves muscle on guys idk why

>> No.55259508

>>55259482
I’m curious what the motivation to switch from banker to doctor was. I’m 30. I’ve done a few things and I’m very bored now. Medicine was one of the things I wanted to study when I was younger so I’ve thought about pursuing medical school but the education investment just seems so ridiculous that I write it off pretty much right away.

>> No.55259642

>>55255931
>entire post is about how other people with think about what you do
lmao, incels really are women

>> No.55259675

>>55259508
It wasn't me, it was another guy.
That said I worked in tech and finance too.
I started med school fresh out of high school but dropped out after 2 years because I had enough studying and wanted to work.

I'm in western europe so here we don't have to take those crazy loans like in the US, the education is "free" but instead we have a ranked exam at the end of the first year with like 1 place for 10 students.

A decade later I had regrets even if I made good money and gave it another shot. What motivated me is that it's a meaningful job even if it can be stressful, you don't really have a boss once you finish residency and you have a lot of freedom on where and how you want to practice. It's a lot like being a business owner but without the uncertainty of running a company (I would have been atrocious at sales anyway).

Btw all all the older students there were men, I think women are heavily favoured by the college system because they're considerably more mature mentally at 18-20 when guys are still somewhat teenagers well into their 20s.

>> No.55259784

>>55256334
If you’re older then you’re more likely to know how the working world actually works, and won’t be as much of a potential basket case as a younger guy would. Remember that companies first and foremost look for someone who is at least somewhat compatible with them, most things can be trained onto a monkey in time, so unless you’re an actual savant what you know as far as the hard info goes is not as important as how you go about things, whether or not you’re a dickhead that constantly causes trouble, etc. If you’re a somewhat older guy who has at least some experience out there, *and* you managed to get a degree, then you should have a bit of a leg up since its that experience so many look for to begin with. People change careers and go back to college all the time, especially since now online courses have really taken off, you’re far from alone in that regard.

>> No.55259794

You already failed by worrying what retarded zoomers think instead of seeing it merely as the next logical step in your career. NGMI.

>> No.55259814

>>55256544
No it doesn't. If you need to improve your career the opinions of 98 IQ zoomers don't matter at all>>55256002
>>55255944
better to be the 37yo lumberstudent than the 45yo walmart guy posting on /pol/ with a tripcode

>> No.55259823

>>55255931
Can't talk for anyone but myself but no, it is worth it and I'm speaking from the position of a profession with comparatively low earnings to others and incredibly low compared to tech and finance bros.
You will feel pathetic. It's unavoidable and regrettable but that's the nature of being around a group of young people who probably have known nothing but one another since school. You're an outsider.
It is however, very survivable.
It is also easier if you can find a girlfriend/boyfriend also on the grind who you can do study dates with or can be around when you inevitably have to skip an event to study. Keeps the FOMO at bay. It is not necessary though, just helpful.

But most importantly: I'm out about a year now and it was so much more worth it than I ever anticipated. Prior to graduating I was working a very dull office job. I made 10k more than I do now from my new masters degree job - and even with the paycut I'm still SO much happier with my college earned job. The work is so much more interesting and there is an intangible level of respect that comes with some job titles that money can never buy. For example: no matter how rich Conor McGregor or an OnlyFans whore gets - they are still always morons in the eyes of most educated people. They're just rich monkeys. Money and being astute at business earns some degree of respect but... less than biztards anticipate.
I genuinely feel priveleged to do the things I'm now allowed to do with my masters degree and I wake up actually excited about my work projects. One day I will go out on my own and start my own business too.
Additionally, as much as a younger me would have cringed to think this, education itself has value. I understand things and have access to information the vast majority of people simply do not get. They don't even realise what they're missing. Go back to school anon. (but do be selective about what you study.)
t. graduated at 29

>> No.55259824

>>55255944
lol no he fucking isn't, he runs a mushroom supplements company and talks a lot of complete bullshit. does zero scientific research into mushrooms, which is what a mycologist does.

>> No.55259829

>>55256334
Kek I remember being shocked there was a 40yo woman in one of my classes, since I didn't know her age until she mentioned she was a teacher who was married and doing a spanish class so she could deal with ESL students easier.

>> No.55260237

bumperino

>> No.55260303

>>55255931
>i care about what others think of me because i am an insecure little bitch and it holds me back from doing something with my life
You guys never change

>> No.55260321

>>55259675
Oh. I see. In America, medical school is 4 years plus another 4 years of residency to become a doctor. And that’s given that you have an undergraduate which itself is at least 4 years. So becoming a doctor here is an 8+ year commitment. That’s my main thing. I am 30 right now and would be 31 upon matriculating. I may even need to take a year of prerequisites putting me at 32 upon matriculating. So I question whether I really want to commit all of my 30s to becoming a doctor at 40. I’m just unsure. I’m interested in other things so it’s been difficult to decide.

>> No.55260616

>>55260321
Here we have 6 years of med schools and 4-6 years of residency depending of the specialty.
To me the hardest part was going back to a desk and study tens of thousands pages of material.
Residency was ok, you're basically a doctor but with a senior to fall back on, people whining about it probably just lack social skills or are somewhat clueless about what the average wagie life looks like. I would rather have 70 hours week in an hospital as a resident for 4 year than work 40 hours in a mart or a bullshit office job for the rest of my life.

>> No.55260791

>>55260616
Well, this is the thing. I’m already somewhat out of the office. I’m a mid-level administrator at a large university. I work remotely as much as I want and although I technically have a supervisor, I more or less do what I want when I want. I have very little work to do. I can go weeks without even having to turn on my computer. Because it’s a public university I am also on a state pension plan. 15 more years and I never have to work again. It’s a very cushy set up but I am so beyond bored that I don’t know what to do with myself. I’ve been living in what feels like eternal summer for years now. It’s nice but at the same time I just feel like I’m wasting my life and I want to do something challenging. At this point, studying thousands of pages of material everyday sounds almost appealing.

>> No.55260848

>>55255931
In my country we have uni programs where classes take place during weekends. It's designed for those who want to both work and get education both at the same time. Also mostly people >25 study there. It sucks that there isn't something like that in your country. I myself plan to get back to uni. But it's not going to be weird for me as it's something normal to study later on in life in my country.

>> No.55260863

>>55260848
These exist in basic at every country. They just suck and because degrees are conferred on a credit basis, it takes much longer to receive a degree. A 4-year degree is now an 8-year degree, for example.

>> No.55260885

>>55255931
I changed careers at age 33, from air traffic control to maritime logistics management.

I went back to college and found that it was mostly adults 25+ - 45+ who were in specific advanced certification programs like this one.

It was a masters degree program, which might explain it, but honest if you don't have a bachelor in some dumb bullshit by 25 then just get that done first online.

>> No.55260977

Nah dog you're fine who cares what dumbass zoomers think anyways. I say going back to school in your 20s is fine but once you're in your 30s you may wanna seek a different career path unless you're a bright person already

>> No.55261149

>>55259502
Probably because zoomer males are all lanky twinks

>> No.55261341

thanks again bros

>> No.55261535

>>55255931
I went to University at 28. smartest thing I've done. Had a part time job at a call center during it too.

But my tuition was like 650 euros per year since the government pays for most of it

>> No.55262430

>>55261535
based eurochad