/XMR/ Monero General

[Anonymous No.55196858]

Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptocurrencies. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier to entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Binance
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Kucoin
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

[Anonymous No.55196886]

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>55145301

[Anonymous No.55196898]

START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL
START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

[Anonymous No.55196916]

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

[Anonymous No.55196928]

>>55196858
anyone got any of the new Hitler Monero memes?

[Anonymous No.55196937]

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/services

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Buy silver/gold bullion with XMR (US only)
https://monerosilver.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Buy books with XMR
https://monerobookstore.com/

>Win XMR!
https://monero.win/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Archetyp
>ASAP
>Astra #
>Asur Market
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Dark Matter
>Darkmoon
>Drugula #
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Pygmalion's Refuge
>Retro Market
>Sonanza Market #
>Squid Market
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/vyHPGDcT


>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/75mVpfED


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

[Anonymous No.55196938]

>>55196858
Sex with Monero-chan!

[Anonymous No.55196945]

START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE


>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

[Anonymous No.55196954]

>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

[Anonymous No.55196967]

Just bought a bag, how much pain am I in for.

[Anonymous No.55197016]

Does Monero have a mechanism for pruning?

[Anonymous No.55197090]

>>55196967

Depends on your time preference. Peace of mind comes from knowing its backed by cocaine as opposed to hot air.

[Anonymous No.55197122]

>>55197016
>Does Monero have a mechanism for pruning?

Do you find Googling difficult?

https://www.getmonero.org/resources/moneropedia/pruning.html

[Anonymous No.55197139]

>>55197122
I meant pruning past transaction history in such a way that only the current XMR balances are left. I guess that means no?

[Anonymous No.55197156]

>>55197139

Nope, there's no way of knowing for sure if an output has been spent or not.

[Anonymous No.55197174]

>>55197156
Right. I guess it makes sense that such a thing would not work with a privacy coin.

[Anonymous No.55197484]

>do it for her

[Anonymous No.55197496]

Reporting in,
fuck Bitcoin.

[Anonymous No.55198053]

>>55196928
no. you got some?

[Anonymous No.55198445]

Threadly reminder that there is now a parallel XMR General on the darknet imageboard BitChan where you can post with the absolute maximum degree of privacy possible.

Why bother? Well, remember that every time you post on 4chan the content + your IP address are being logged and that data can and will be made available to LE/glowies upon request.

So if you need to ask a very delicate question, want to make a potentially incriminating announcement or you otherwise just absolutely positively DO NOT WANT to risk being deanonymized, the BitChan thread would be the place to do it.

The slightly higher barrier to entry also serves as a badly needed retard filter so a lot of us post there simply to avoid the hordes of mouth breathers that befoul this otherwise delightful basket weaving forum.

>How do I access BitChan?

You need to have I2P configured & running on your device. Fortunately, pre-configured browser bundles are now available and make everything easy. Since most of you lazy faggots are still using Windows we'll default to that for the following guide:

1. Visit https://i2pd.website/ and click on 'Download I2PdBrowser'.
2. Download either the I2PdBrowserPortable_xxx.7z or .exe file. Extract/install it.
3. Run the StartI2PdBrowser.bat batch file to launch. Adjust firewall settings/port forward as required. Port forwarding > UPnP

A cmd window will pop up and initialize the process. A windowed Firefox instance should soon appear. DO NOT RESIZE IT! Browser fingerprinting is a thing. Once pic-related appears you are officially browsing the darknet! You can monitor yr I2P service by visiting http://127.0.0.1:7070/ in yr *regular* browser.

Then simply copy/paste the following link into the address bar as per usual:

http://bitchan.i2p/thread/BM-2cVPN9mi9oBKATjNxKkopHJSCU9ah7wQwW/047186ce462d

You may have to complete a CAPTCHA on your first visit. Also, NEVER, EVER ENABLE JAVASCRIPT!!!!

Keep in mind that page loading takes longer on the darknet, so be patient.

[Anonymous No.55199001]

>inb4 zcash trannies
>inb4 swingies get the rope
Can I ask where you have your buy orders set fellas? I accoomulated mostly above $300 back in '22 and have been holding off before jumping back in. Hoping to have XXX before mandatory estrogen injections and cis white male levy is implemented. Thank you

[Anonymous No.55199341]

>>55199001
If you're trying to stack using big chips, the only way to do it is lm

[Anonymous No.55200554]

>Trusted technology, growing adoption

Zcash was launched by one of the most respected technical teams in the world.

Zcash is the 'https of blockchains,' protecting your freedom to save and spend as you like.

Zcash was the first project to implement zk-SNARKs, a novel form of zero-knowledge cryptography that gives its users the strongest privacy available in any digital currency.

Multiple, independent organizations are funded to innovate on Zcash.

Zcash is already available on top exchanges, digital wallets and a growing number of applications.

[Anonymous No.55200569]

This is what Monero chuds dont want you to know.

Buy Zcash if you actually want to make it.

[Anonymous No.55200750]

>>55200569
>>55200554
Welcome back shill.

[Anonymous No.55200767]

1. Infinite supply.
2. Centralized development
3. Probable inflation bug
4. Can't scale.
5. Can't pump
6. Will be destroyed by regulations.

The truth is a bitter pill to swallow.

[Anonymous No.55201740]

>>55197496
>fuck Bitcoin.
if you insist...

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.55201876]

Reporting in
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IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
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Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

[Anonymous No.55202028]

>>55196858
Another day, another thread.

Same shitty infodump copypasta.
Same shitty drug memes.
Same shitty I2P shill post.
Same shitty staged ZCash fight.
Same shitty waifu.

I dont get it. How long are you planning to keep this facade up? All the smart money has long gone. You're grasping for scraps that aren't even there.

[Anonymous No.55202171]

>>55202028
>All the smart money has long gone.

lol smart money doesn't touch crypto.

>You're grasping for scraps that aren't even there.

lol the black market is a multi-trillion dollar economy, Monero will be just fine.

[Anonymous No.55202557]

>>55201876
based

[Anonymous No.55202590]

1xmr = 1xmr
1btc != 1btc

[Anonymous No.55202636]

I move how /xmr/ is the only thread unfazed by the happenings of the [crypto] world. We will endure.

[Anonymous No.55202649]

>>55202636
I hope we dump harder honestly, of course iover the next 5 years we win in every scenario but, would just be a little bonus

[Anonymous No.55203224]

>>55201740
You can keep that hag, I'll take Monero's daughter. Just don't tell Monero-chan...

[Anonymous No.55203244]

>>55202649
Waiting on 90$ for the whole year. Its super stable at 150$ ish

[Anonymous No.55203480]

Such irony.

[Anonymous No.55203868]

>>55203480
To me delisting due to gov pressure seems bullish because that must mean it's working.

[Anonymous No.55204546]

>>55200554
>>55200569
>>55201740
>>55202028
Do the shills come to this thread because they never have any threads of their own? Do the feds really hate Monero so much they have to come here and spread retard tier FUD? Every thread is the same with this shit.

I just want to talk about how to get more adoption or strategies to orient my life in such a way to get paid in/pay for everything with XMR.

[Anonymous No.55204953]

What other innovation we see in the decentralized world are blockchains necessary for everything? Is risc-v something serious and not with backdoors?

[Anonymous No.55204981]

>>55202028
>shitting on my monerochan

If i had the means i would start a cult with her and create an ai with her

[Anonymous No.55205169]

>>55200767
We are the cockroaches and we will inherit the world

[Anonymous No.55206101]

>>55197090
KEK
You convinced me anon

[Anonymous No.55206598]

>>55204546
what exactly makes you think I'm a shill?

[Anonymous No.55206671]

>>55200767
Well you can solve that buy just converting to the cocaine standard whenever you receive xmr. Cocaine gets you so many deals in places you'd never imagine there'd be demand. I can get food, movie tickets, cars, insurance, phone bills paid, mortgage paid, I can even buy fuel with it, and I can do this all anonymously and by phone.

[Anonymous No.55206762]

>>55206671

Yay for coke whores.

[Anonymous No.55206855]

>>55196858
>Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments
Monero alone isn't safe. I still need Nexera protocol to remain compliant in DeFi.

[Anonymous No.55206893]

anybody using anonshop?

[Anonymous No.55206900]

Anyone know where to get a flipper zero preferably with xmr in NA? These little bastards are hard to get a hold of, almost got one off moneromarket but I was too late.

[Anonymous No.55206975]

>>55206855
>remain compliant in DeFi.

[Anonymous No.55207725]

>>55204953
Blockchains are terribly inefficient in comparison with other technologies that already exist. The only use they have so far is cryptocurrencies, and blockchain tech has been around since the nineties.

Risc-v is serious, thing is they are primarily processors for very specific electronics which are certainly not desktop computers. We are aproaching that point very quickly anyway.
As for how safe they are... well they are open source so if you have the expertise you can check how it works but i guess nothing would prevent that the manufacturer doesn't modify the original design and add some backdoors to protect the children. I dont really know if you can and how expensive it would be to make some sort of silicon check.

[Anonymous No.55207894]

>>55207725
>i guess nothing would prevent that the manufacturer doesn't modify the original design and add some backdoors to protect the children
That works right up until someone sues them for fraudulent advertising since the licenses are effectively legal claims about what the product contains
>Risc-v is serious
I’ve thought about buying a couple chips to act as a pihole/home media server, my only concern is that it’s currently 90% chinkware and the first paragraph doesn’t really apply to chink companies

[Anonymous No.55208257]

>>55206598
Because Bitcoin will sell you out to the feds.

>>55207894
>I’ve thought about buying a couple chips to act as a pihole/home media server
I believe you'd have to compile the software for risc-v specifically. You have to do the same between ARM64 and x86-64. I don't know if that's currently possible or if people much smarter than both of us likely are would need to figure that shit out first.

[Anonymous No.55208369]

>>55203244
I think once bitshit finally shows signs of failure, of course worse than 20 dollar fees and so on there will be a massive crash and it might bring us to 50 dollars, then you go all in, xmr takes over the market from that point on

[Anonymous No.55208420]

>>55208257
>I believe you'd have to compile the software for risc-v specifically
There’s people way smarter than me already working on that. The hardest part of the work, writing a C compiler that targets the architecture (and can run on it), is already done, everything after that is project specific with the only changes needed being if they use tricks specific to x86/arm

[Anonymous No.55208461]

>>55206975
Are you living a compliant DeFi life yet... If not, embrace PolygonID or NexeraID at this early age and then secure your wallet with Monero...

[Anonymous No.55208517]

>>55207894
>>55207725


I think this is the type of information that needs to be decentralized and easy to get, i don't know shit about hardware but i think the endgoal should be having retards building their own pcs from their own microchips from 3d printing computers

[Anonymous No.55208750]

>>55208420
>The hardest part of the work, writing a C compiler that targets the architecture (and can run on it), is already done
Neat, I haven't done much research into risc-v so I didn't know that. I also re-read my previous post and realized I had a stroke at the end there.

>>55208517
Unfortunately, manufacturing CPUs is insanely high-tech. Working at the scales they do (single digit nano-meters) a single piece of dust can fuck everything up. So while there are people who are figuring out how to 3D print with metals, the scale that they work at is way too big to be able to even think about creating a consumer grade CPU. The manufacturing process for CPUs is called photolithography, crazy stuff.

[Anonymous No.55209061]

>>55208750
Thats true i wonder who is figuring that out in the open source community

[Anonymous No.55209178]

>>55196858
150$ stable coin lmao

[Anonymous No.55209248]

do you guys know any script that would automatically sends xmr to wallet2 from wallet1
then from w2 to w3
then w3 to w4... a chain basically

?

[Anonymous No.55209290]

>>55209248
Sounds like that could make you stand out more, 1 potential address always sends money it might have received 10 blocks after receiving.

You should be completely "safe" after doing one jump to a new wallet.

[Anonymous No.55209333]

>>55209290
>1 potential address always sends money it might have received 10 blocks after receiving
what does that mean?
stand out more.. where?

[Anonymous No.55209339]

>>55208257
>>55208420
The software side is pretty much a solved problem. Compilers are ready and the source code for everything you need is out there. What's missing is hardware actually worth running. The best we have is SBC-level at best which is OK for some things but not general computing.

[Anonymous No.55209380]

>>55209333
They way xmr works in basic terms is that you blend into the crowd. Every time you send xmr there's a bunch of fake senders and receivers.
You shouldn't need to do what you are requesting to do.

[Anonymous No.55209405]

>>55209380
i shouldn't
but what if i want to?
i guess it's too much of an headache anyway and nuke w1.. probably.. dunno
monero is amazing bros

[Anonymous No.55209493]

>>55209248
Don't know of a script that does this but it's not needed. Sending from W1 > W1 is enough, and might be worth considering anyway to make it faster to restore

[Anonymous No.55209541]

>>55209493
wallet 1 to wallet 1?
sending xmr to the same wallet? is this what you are saying?

[Anonymous No.55209691]

>>55209541
Yes the blockchain doesn't reveal your addresses anyways. You can be double paranoid and send it to a freshly generated secondary address too if you wanted
>verification not required

[Anonymous No.55209703]

>>55209691
feel less paranoid now
thanks fren

[Anonymous No.55209723]

>>55207894
>That works right up until someone sues them for fraudulent advertising
my point is that, how are they gonna find out?
how do you find out that the original blueprint for the chip was tampered?
how do you even analyze this shit?
also, chinks don't give a fuck about sues

[Anonymous No.55209797]

Without ad hominem attacks, can someone explain to me why Z cash is bad?

[Anonymous No.55209842]

>>55209797
doesn't work

[Anonymous No.55209907]

>>55209842
Isn't their privacy technology stronger than monero's (something something zk-snarks)

[Anonymous No.55209912]

>>55209797
Optional privacy is not privacy.
Dev tax.
Funded by globohomo, shilled by snowden.
Not used by dark markets like at all.
Fake backdoor privacy from the start, thats why pirate chain sucks as well.
Is derailing from monero.
Might actually also get banned as well. So all the shit with zero advantage.
Tranny devs have a 41% suicide rate. No no devs in the future.
Bad memes.

[Anonymous No.55210031]

>>55209797
1. Zk-snarks isn't battle tested and zcash has already had a screw up in the cryptography that could deanonymize users. Eventually this won't be true anymore but right now it's not worth the risk. Consider what happened to GRIN when it was discovered mimblewimble can be cracked for $50
2. 'Development tax'
3. Pro Proof of stake which presents a bunch of problems

1 isn't that bad compared to 2 and 3

[Anonymous No.55210095]

>>55209907
no

[Anonymous No.55210211]

>>55196967
Thou the whole market is fucked, but not sure Monero is that bad
It's even in a buy zone, based on what i saw on my Al indicator, just focus on the long term, and you'll be okay

[Anonymous No.55210560]

monero-chan fumo anon try putting something between the acrylic pieces of the plastic 2d figurine so they don't get scratched on each other

[Anonymous No.55210859]

Is there a chance computers we use now will be phased out from manufacture if apple's VR device improves greatly? As in only computers left are servers for "cloud" for big tech. How would this effect monero (and other cryptocurrencies in general)? Negative? Is this like the typewriter phased out to computers but with worse locked down options to the public?

[Anonymous No.55210893]

>>55210859
sounds retarded, and the worst and most retarded fud you could have come up with

[sage No.55211241]

>>55209912
>Bad memes.
That's the real reason. People who can't meme lack cultural awareness, humour (and thus self awareness) and a soul. Laughter is close to the divine, bad memes are a sad shell imitating nature but failing at being natural, just like trannies.

[Anonymous No.55211712]

>>55209907
From what I've learned about the history of Monero, it seems to be a relatively slow moving project in terms of the fundamentals while still being willing to improve. Errors by devs can be really bad, there likely are people who are relying on it to avoid prison. Even if there aren't, the intent is to have no way of knowing. So upgrades to the fundamental cryptography should be taken very seriously and pass multiple extensive reviews and audits. The cryptographic theory of something might be solid, but implementation is something different. Things can be lost in translation, difficult to change because of some reality of how things were operating before, a deceptive interaction, etc. I'm a retard tier dev, but I can attest to the difficulty of getting things exactly how they're intended.

I'm too much of a retard to actually understand any of the cryptography at a deep level so I don't actually know what math is better. I do know that the Monero project is slowly moving to zero-knowledge proofs to replace various aspects of how it works today. Those things will make XMR more secure, and better in other ways, but it is more about staying ahead than catching up. The situation isn't so urgent as to need a fix before people who know, are confident it is ready.

All that to say, there's more to it than just if some cryptography is thought to be better. Monero is proven today and willing to adopt the better technology in a responsible way. If you're interested in the process you can lurk in their communities. https://www.getmonero.org/community/hangouts/

[Anonymous No.55212322]

>>55209333
Nice digits. Stand out in the blockchain, of course. You can manually check it, but there are entire companies dedicated to scanning blockchains like bitcoin for crazy levels of analysis. Must be a hard job for monero blockchain, but no doubt they wish to find flaws.
https://moneroexplorer.org/

[Anonymous No.55212586]

Ahoy Mates!

Just wanted to sincerely thank everyone here for their recommendations on kuno.bitejo and trocador! We have already received about a dozen donations which is just mind blowing. For the first couple years of this project, I really had no idea if anyone was listening out there. To find so much positive energy in these threads is a very very good feeling.

One more question for ye, mates. Does anyone have any ideas for something like Zazzle or something where ye could design and drop ship shirts paying with XMR? Would love to be able to drop ship swag to all of the good mates out there but haven't been able to find anything like this yet.

Thank ye, mates!!!

[Anonymous No.55212709]

>>55210211
at what price do we enter "buy zone" anon?

[Anonymous No.55213018]

Infinite supply shitcoin.

[Anonymous No.55213454]

>>55212709
We've been in a buy zone at basically everything under 500 in the long term but we're at a historically good buy point atm

[Anonymous No.55213641]

>>55212586
Based captain.

Use the world's first non custodial MONERO crowd funding platform to help him:
https://kuno.bitejo.com/donate/u05i/

Send a few neros, gents.

Clear skies and calm seas ;)

[Anonymous No.55214451]

MONEROMARKET.IO

Join the Monero Economy

[Anonymous No.55214549]

is cakewallet the best iphone wallet? what about mymonero?

[Anonymous No.55214618]

>>55214549
also there are 2 cakewallet apps in the ipone store

[Anonymous No.55214642]

>>55214549
checkout stackwallet.com

[Anonymous No.55215276]

>>55203224
i want to have HOT and STEAMY sex with WOWNERO-CHAN!

[Anonymous No.55216819]

>>55215276

Not gay.

[Anonymous No.55217591]

Monerochan got them baggies

[Anonymous No.55218430]

>hardware wallet
your thoughts?

[Anonymous No.55219381]

>>55218430
what's the point, seems like bad opsec

[Anonymous No.55219493]

Any Bulgarian anons ITT? Want to know what offramps are available in your country - considering vacationing there for a time, would like to dip into XMR savings to do so. Whats it like? Bitcoin ATMs, or can you liquidate via exchanges there?

[Anonymous No.55219499]

>>55219493
Not exclusive to XMR, I suppose bitcoin offramps are just as feasible

[Anonymous No.55219526]

>>55218430
If the ledger clusterfuck has taught us anything, it’s that you absolutely cannot trust anything which does not show you its source code

[Anonymous No.55219580]

>>55219526
I swear feds come here to just post the dumbest fucking shit

[Anonymous No.55219668]

[Anonymous No.55219693]

>>55219526
would you mind an overview or video link for ledger? I've been out of the loop

[Anonymous No.55219712]

>>55219668
and?

[Anonymous No.55219775]

>>55219712

[Anonymous No.55219925]

>>55219693
>ledger
For the NANO S the screen always stays on when plugged in; if you have a habit or tenacity leaving your device idle while plugged in for extensive periods of time; this overheats the device n damages the internal components of the screen, causing it to dim/fade n eventually go black.

Keep in mind that syncing Monero wallet takes a shitload of time so you can be sure your OLED screen will be burned fast. This is shit that you won't learn from Youtube from just googling Ledger vs Trezor. I don't fucking know about this until this happened to me one week ago.

[Anonymous No.55219946]

>>55219925
is that it? I was referring to anons "clusterfuck," wanted to know if there are any newfound vulnerabilities, any reason I should switch to a cold wallet

[Anonymous No.55220008]

>>55219946
It wasn't just that, but that they're offering an optional (don't know the veracity of how optional this is) service to help recover people's private keys since apparently people lose them so often. I believe the scheme is to store parts of them in 3 separate places and have some system/mechanism for them to become unified once again so the client can recover their private keys.

[Anonymous No.55220094]

>>55220008
How do they obtain the keys? Do you give 8/24 of the words to these retainers?

[Anonymous No.55220227]

>>55196858
how to trace, asking for a friend

[Anonymous No.55220293]

>>55219946
>>55220094
tldr
>ledger marketing for years has claimed there is absolutely zero way for your seed phrase to leave the device, it’s a bulletproof solution
>last month they introduce an “optional” feature that allows you to encrypt and back up your seed phrase so it can be recovered if you lose it
>people rightly point out that this means the firmware does indeed allow your seed phrase to leave the device and since it’s closed source we have no clue how “optional” the feature really is or what else can use it
>ledger says well technically it was always possible why are you so mad
>this all could have been avoided if they just introduced a new product that allows the backups instead of sending it as a firmware update to existing wallets so ledger just shot themselves in the foot for no clear reason

[Anonymous No.55220361]

>>55220293
thanks

[Anonymous No.55220370]

>>55220361
time to make a TAILS cold wallet

[Anonymous No.55220373]

>>55220293
>>55220361
Also forgot to mention that the backup consists of sharding the seed phrase into three chunks which are encrypted and sent to separate US owned companies, all of which can be asked by glowniggers to decrypt what they have

[Anonymous No.55220394]

>>55210859
I don't think it has too much to do with VR, but we are absolutely headed towards a future where most people are using cloud-based applications and cloud-based computing for normal things. Google Stadia (which was supposed to bring gaming into the streaming world) was kind of a flop, but that's because the internet infrastructure just wasn't strong enough to handle it. But when it is there by the end of the decade, Microsoft and Sony and Valve are all going to have cloud gaming services that will outshine the "old ways" of downloading and storing video games on personal hardware. Who wants to spend hours downloading a 120gb game when you can just boot up the flawless cloud version in seconds after purchasing it? And for people that need big computer rigs to edit videos or render 3DCG in blender, it will be cheaper and easier for them to utilize Microsoft's cloud computing services, which will be like editing and rendering your project on 10 supercomputers at once for like $20.

As for how it will affect cryptocurrencies and monero, I'm not sure. Even if everything is streamed, all of these devices like smartphones and tablets and computers will still need a CPU, so there will always be hardware that is available to everyone that can mine monero. I also think that projects like ICP could play a role as being a decentralized alternative to big tech cloud-computing farms. Things always play out fucking weird though, "real world events" seem to shape the internet in significant ways because it creates a pretext for introducing new laws and standards for how we do things. Some manufactured internet crisis in 2025 is going to have more impact on the future of the internet than what we can theorize right now.

[Anonymous No.55220787]

What the fuck is happening with xmr mining profitability on nicehash in the last couple days?
It increased 3 times.
Some kind of attack on the network discovered?

[Anonymous No.55221286]

>>55209178
>jews when cryptocurrency / USD price fluctuates
IT'S TOO UNSTABLE
>jews when Monero has price stability
ENJOY YOUR STABLE COIN LMAO

[Anonymous No.55222645]

>>55220787

I, for one, welcome our new ASIC overlords.

[Anonymous No.55222751]

>>55222645
It's not asic, people are willing to pay MORE for hashrate, not less.
Really weird.

[Anonymous No.55222809]

>>55222645
I don't think it's asics. If the profitability was due to xmr asics we would see a significant increase in network hashrate, would we not?

If it's getting more profitable to mine xmr and the hashrate is not increasing, it could mean that there are less people mining xmr, or someone has cracked random x and is making a killing mining from "average" cpus

[Anonymous No.55222872]

>>55218430
Meme for the most part . Unironically an up to date Android phone with a max/near-max lengt>>55215276
h password is more secure than a lelger.
>Inb4 graykey and other tools: those only work after the first unlock.

[Anonymous No.55222912]

>>55222809
>someone has cracked random x and is making a killing mining from "average" cpus
Doesn't make sense. That would make hashrate less valuable.
For some reason people are willing to pay 3x the average monthly price just to have the more hashrate, I just don't see why, there should be some kind of logic there.
Option 1: Someone is laundering nicehash balance and willing to overpay in btc for monero hashrate, unlikely because they can just withdraw the btc and swap them to xmr elsewhere
Option 2: There is new kind of attack which needs a lot of hashrate, so people are willing to overpay

[Anonymous No.55223019]

>>55222912
interesting

[Anonymous No.55223463]

>>55212586
Based captain! Can't wait for EP 18! Also, some CBB swag would be awesome, I'd buy it today.

[Anonymous No.55223548]

>>55220787
The render network?

[Anonymous No.55223605]

>>55219775
kek

[Anonymous No.55223761]

>>55223463
>>55213641

Thank ye so much, mateys! Ye are truly the best! I will totally throw a shoutout to the XMR community in future episodes for everything ye have done for me!

It seems like a crypto oriented T-Shirt business has been a want for awhile. When I try to research and search for one, I find tons of mates in search of the same thing but so far none of the dozens of online companies take Crypto.

I really find it bizarre to try to crowdfund this project. Especially with how much gray area we exist in and how we can't really use any surface platforms. Reddit bans any mention of the show nearly instantly and we can't use traditional crowdfunding methods like Pateron for obvious reasons. But we really want to give back and give as much appreciation as we can to ye wonderful lads and lasses of action who enjoy our project. It is the greatest feeling ever making CBR and having ye mates enjoy it. Hope we can figure out some sweet swag for ye, mateys and get it too ye like we used to with our previous 5 star business. xD

[Anonymous No.55223842]

>>55223761
Would moneromarket not be a decent platform to offer up stuff for sale? It already has recognition in the xmr community and its own user traffic. Only downside I'd see is you're limited to xmr only which might exclude some listeners, but it seems like it could be a decent option. Also, check your email if ya get a chance skipper!

[Anonymous No.55224053]

I don't care if monero goes to $10 per coin as long as all of this trash above it on coinmarketcap goes to zero.

[Anonymous No.55224190]

>>55220787
thanks friend, going to kyc myself to earn a few dollars in extra profits on NH

[Anonymous No.55224515]

>>55223842
Dude if you're this neck deep in xmr, even considering fiat is retrograde.

[Anonymous No.55224626]

>>55224515
Who said anything about fiat?

[Anonymous No.55224776]

>>55224626
>Only downside I'd see is you're limited to xmr only which might exclude some listeners
If you're listening to an xmr prophet who fancies himself a pirate, and you ain't singing shanties with him, maybe you ain't gonna make it. Its dead weight, but I don't know how far moneromarket is gonna make it without a tor or i2p mirror.

[Anonymous No.55226002]

So how can you be sure that there isnt an inflation bug that the devs are exploiting to dump on everyone?

[Anonymous No.55226042]

>>55226002
Because

[Anonymous No.55226138]

Dumped all my BNB for XMR today.

Had enough for 500 XMR. Think next cycle will treat us any better than the last bros?

[Anonymous No.55226169]

>>55226138
Well done anon to be honest i am glad they are persecuting the industry and deleting the weaker players

[Anonymous No.55227217]

>>55226002
You add up the block rewards. Same as in almost any other crypto

[Anonymous No.55228082]

>>55226138

Never disclose.

[Anonymous No.55228154]

>>55217591
PLOOSHA

[Anonymous No.55228196]

XMR is the chosen offshore reserve currency

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GUxorj4a3U

Do you remember what bitcoin was supposed to be?

[Anonymous No.55228199]

>>55197496
Bayshed Pickziv Poshting Cshad

[Anonymous No.55229003]

I'm thinking of using Trezor Emulator on Raspberry Pi as "hardware wallet" to store my Monero. Thoughts ?

https://rusnak.io/trezor-emulator-on-raspberry-pi/

Pavol Rusnák is a co-founder, CTO and core developer of SatoshiLabs, where he leads the development of software and hardware projects such as Trezor, the first hardware wallet.

[Anonymous No.55229039]

>>55229003
Just build a pitrezor at that point

[Anonymous No.55229056]

>>55229003
>>55229039
Also
>Never use the emulator for storing any value, it’s intended for testing only!
why are you this retarded anon?

[Anonymous No.55229139]

>>55229039
>Just build a pitrezor at that point
Reasons:
1. Pi Trezor is a clone of Trezor One, the one without touch screen capability, where you have to press a button, it looks like a pain in the ass. I'd rather use Trezor Model T, which is what Trezor Emulator is.

2. It doesn't support Raspberry Pi 3, which I have.

>>55229056
Well, he's the co-founder of trezor of course he's saying that. If you can't trust Trezor emulator, you can't trust Trezor either, they're using the exact same codebase.

[Anonymous No.55229336]

>>55229139
Why do you want to open a hole with tree or for every person moronic enough not to know how to make a fucking paper wallet securely. Your way is just as stupidly complicated instead of using a 50 10 year old computer with tails on it.

[Anonymous No.55230494]

>https://monerofund.org/projects/eae_attack_and_churning

New MAGIC grant dropped, the author wants 134 XMR to research one of the potential attacks against XMR discussed in Breaking Monero

[Anonymous No.55231542]

>>55230494
>the author wants 134 XMR to research one of the potential attacks against XMR discussed in Breaking Monero
shiiiiiiiiiiet, nigger
I'll do that for half the price AND go into full detail in my report.
these monerosluts are asking way too damn much...

[Anonymous No.55231757]

>>55230494
>>55231542
The prices in all of these proposals seem absolutely random.
I've seen good CCS that asked for like 18 xmr, then meme translations asked for 20, some asked for 200 for something questionable.
Not to mention so many of these proposals are stuck at 1st or 2nd milestone, it's honestly bafling people still give money to these.

[Anonymous No.55232281]

>>55231757
>it's honestly bafling people still give money to these
what is DM money laundering larping as non xmr devs for 10000 $ please

[Anonymous No.55232770]

>>55218430
Midwit trap.

[Anonymous No.55233012]

>>55214451
>clearnet link
pass
>>55228199
There are private frontends for Pixiv btw
https://github.com/HookedBehemoth/pixiv-proxy
>https://pixiv.cunnycon.org/
https://gitler.moe/suwako/vixip
>https://pixiv.owacon.moe/
https://codeberg.org/PrivacyDev/freexiv
>https://freexiv.privacydev.net/
>http://freexiv.g4c3eya4clenolymqbpgwz3q3tawoxw56yhzk4vugqrl6dtu3ejvhjid.onion/

[Anonymous No.55233261]

Ahoy Mates,

I have been test piloting Trocador and Kuno.Bitejo for the last two weeks or so for XMR crowdfunding. WIth all due respect, I am completely grateful for the suggestions and terrific support of this community. Two small eccentric things give me mixed feelings about each platform.

1. Trocador sends ye an email every time a transaction is created to donate to ye. However the donator doesn't have to send funds. This sent me into extreme panic last night when I received an email saying someone had created a transaction to send me 200 XMR that never reached my wallet. It took a good hour or two of testing the platform and tracking down transaction IDs to realize someone had probably created a transaction to donate to us with 200 XMR, to see how it worked, but never sent the funds. Totally never expected anything like that to happen as I envisioned just kind people sending us whatever dust was in their wallet. But felt like walking my own plank for about a hour last night thinking I had that much XMR scammed from us and someone who wanted new episodes so badly.

2. Kuno.Bitejo is a great concept with a great look and I like it very much. My only complaint is donators have to enter their TXID in order for it to register. And I imagine most anon donors wouldn't want to go through the hassle. I don't know what a better solution would be as I appreciation the technical limitations involved. But I think I've got a handful of donations from there while only two have registered with mates leaving wonderful nice comments.


>>55223842

Ye be the greatest person who has ever lived! I read yer email, was totally in the process of writing ye back when I saw that Trocador thing and had a fun evening with that. I will send ye back a message this evening!

[Anonymous No.55233603]

I'm a fan of xmr, and I think it is dangerous to the jwords

[Anonymous No.55233653]

>>55232281
holy fucking meds

[Anonymous No.55234169]

to be a sovereign individual in a post apocalyptic technocratic state you need a few things

a free renewable source of electricity that you can be quite confident won't run out

a hydro electric source of power to mine xmr on and run your household, tools, and small homestead, also it's water, and you can drink it

ideally you would also have cattle as it's a self sustaining animal given you protect them from predators, and manage the land properly

[Anonymous No.55234878]

>>55196928
Ledger is now trusted by over (((6 million))). Have you guys seen these new colorful Ledgers to help you to forget about last month?

[Anonymous No.55234986]

>>55234169
Post like these buttblast my jimmies to no fucking end because some of you in the first worlders have absolutely no frame of reference when coming up with these doomsday scenarios.

>post apocalyptic technocratic state
What does this mean? are there any real life examples of states that have naturally formed under the conditions you envision?

A look at the real world and you find that extreme societal conditions result in authoritarianism, police states, dictatorships, anarchy, heck even theocracies. Where is this technocratic state configuration coming from and is he in this room with us?

>free renewable source of electricity that won't run out
>small homestead
>water you can drink

Wow! If only I had known this before leaving Nigeria! So all I needed to do to live in first world comfort was having a small homestead with a water processing plant and a source of reliable energy! Why did I get on a boat with smelly Moroccans to reach Europe where I work as talent for letsdoit when I could have just built a nuclear power plant, smuggle a few dozen solar panels or build my house next to a body of water capable of producing hydro power! Why didn't I think of this!

Let's assume that somehow I obtain everything you have described above (house house, reliable energy, water and food). Do you seriously think that in a post-apocalyptic scenario, everyone is going to respect your property rights and let you live happily ever after in your secluded, luxurious state with all of these wonderful amenities? Is this consistent with what you have read in history?

[Anonymous No.55235098]

>>55234878
holy moly how stupid do you have to be to give out your precious seed like that to just anybody like that?!?
must be one of those special kinds of stupid i've been hearing about circulating around zoom-zooms so much lately...

[Anonymous No.55235140]

>>55218430
>>55219526
>>55219925
>>55219946
>>55220293
>>55220373
these^ + picrel is why you should NEVER TRUST THIRD PARTY CLOSED SOURCE HARDWARE OR CLOSED SOURCE SOFTWARE EVER!!!
either FOSS or GTFO!

[Anonymous No.55235177]

>>55235140

fuuuark haven't touched my ledger since 2018, time to boot up tails

[Anonymous No.55235197]

>>55234986
This is true but this is why your local community matters and thanks to bots and artificial inteligence you will be able to protect your small enclave with autonomous drones and a small community

[Anonymous No.55235224]

>>55235177
don't forget to reference wirey boi's post on steps to making an offline wallet!!!
>literally just

[Anonymous No.55235723]

>>55234986
It means corporatism, the powers of government will dissolve

Corporations will be the new states

[Anonymous No.55236183]

>>55234986
Also, why would people respect your property rights in your wage cage shitbox apartment and not eat you

You want rural isolated property with a strong flowing stream right through the center of it, of course you can fence it off and so on

Violence is a great detterant

The point is to not be dependant on the grid, for decades if need be

[Anonymous No.55236461]

>>55236183

>You want rural isolated property with a strong flowing stream right through the center of it, of course you can fence it off and so on

This simply does not align with all of recorded human history. Short of living in an Afghanistan cave you cannot escape the grasp of the government in one of its many forms (gangs, cartels, tribes). Even in Afghanistan's, you cannot simply find a desirable piece of rural wilderness and live free from coercion. When property rights evaporate, the notion that you can have something desirable whether in the city or in the rural area, without being given the explicit blessing of whatever thug claims to "represent you", is wishful thinking.

The authoritarian instincts in humanity run so strongly that it has taken Europeans a mountain of cultural traditions to just to suppress part of it in "peace times".

This is why I pray the "collapse" is neither as severe as some of the doomsday preppers seem to envision and with enough technology adoption (like crypto, private communications technology) the collapse will be controlled and not crush all of humanity at once

[Anonymous No.55236884]

Reminder that Monero needs to steal Zcash's cutting edge tech in order to stay relevant while Zcash doesn't need to steal a thing from anybody.

Food for thought.

[Anonymous No.55237078]

>>55236884
>he says while oblivious to where he is
I wouldn’t even know what z-cuck is if it weren’t for you niggers treating this thread as your designated shitting street

[Anonymous No.55237306]

Im too scared to buy XMR because glowniggers will start gangstalking me

[Anonymous No.55237688]

>>55237306
Just use cash by mail

[Anonymous No.55238391]

>>55233261
Hey man, that happens because Trocador cant yet read and track transactions if they are donating Monero. But they will soon solve this. Right now you can use the parameter remove_direct_pay when creating donations, and that wont happen again

[Anonymous No.55238412]

>>55237688
I think >>55237306 is just messing with the glowies

[Anonymous No.55238501]

>>55233261
>>55238391
Hey, bro! Sorry to hear about that!
When a donation is paid directly in the same coin you want to receive, there's no trade to be made, so we have no way of knowing if it was actually completed. We'll try to make that clearer on the email!
Otherwise, when there's an actual trade done we only send the email when it's completed.
One of the next features we're working on is a blockchain lookup to check this for transparent blockchains and an option for the receiver to provide Trocador his receiving address' viewkey, so we can do the same when it's Monero.
If you want Monero not to appear as an option on the donation widget you could use the remove_direct_pay=True parameter on the URL.

If you have any suggestions reply to this post, and we'll do our best to implement them!

[Anonymous No.55239866]

[Anonymous No.55239892]

>>55237306

You're retarded. Gangstalking is a psyop. It doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.55239893]

>>55239866
I don't give money to online whores out of principle, but I also want to encourage the Monero circular economy. Bit of a conundrum.

[Anonymous No.55240065]

>>55238391
>>55238501

Ahoy Mates,

What happened was completely my fault and is funny now. I completely understand with XMR, there's no way of telling if funds are sent. I tested Trocador backwards and forwards,it works great. Anonpay is a terrific idea that will be extremely useful in so many different areas. Also being able to convert so many different currencies with yer platform is increidbly helpful! I really like yer platform, how clean it is and all the obvious work ye rmates have put into it.

That's amazing ye monitor the community ye serve this closely. I will continue to use yer platform and say good things about it. I sincerely appreciate yer hearing and responding to my e-mail situation! My apologies for making a n00b mistake.

[Anonymous No.55241540]

[Anonymous No.55241812]

Its that time of the week again: yet another Monero-only darknet market has just launched. Say hello to High Supply.

Poor Bitcoin simply can't stop bleeding market relevance, at this rate it'll be dead and gone from the darknet by 2025.

[Anonymous No.55242430]

>>55236461
Gangs can do what they want but for your own personal security, it is extremely important to have hydro electric power and a fortified position

Would you rather be homeless retard

I swear I'm talking to morons

Assuming that internet providers stay up, which they will because a corporation is in essence a gang

Being able to independently generate currency based on hydro electric power will firmly put you in the elite class

Fiat is leaving soon, I hope you're prepared

There will be wars over power generation when fiat collapses, so it's best to find that rural extremely remote location that has what you need individually

[Anonymous No.55242462]

One only has to look to South Africa for examples of what is to come, power outages for 12 hours a day or more

[Anonymous No.55242828]

anyone else feeling a crash, market wide soon, I feel we could go down to 60 at the lowest, bitshit will fade out

[Anonymous No.55242943]

>>55242430
>There will be wars over power generation when fiat collapses, so it's best to find that rural extremely remote location that has what you need individually
Energy is literally garbage, its the entire universe. Just movement of particles, not scare. The reason we have to pay for is artificial scarcity via organized crime (aka. conspiracy)

[Anonymous No.55242959]

>>55242828
>bitshit will fade out
yeah I can take a total market meltdown for this

bitshit is a hindrance to the whole crypto ecosystem at this point.

[Anonymous No.55243005]

>>55242943
>42943▶
>>>55242430
>>There will be wars over power generation when fiat collapses, so it's best to find that rural extremely remote location that has what you need individually
>Energy is literally garbage, its the entire universe.


and that organized crime will increase once the tool of the government, fiat, collapses

corporations are gangs, and when restrictions are taken from them they become armies, and city states, and territories, and then nations

[Anonymous No.55243021]

>>55242959
it might be the next year or it might be after the halving, but I just feel it will be sooner, just personal opinion I guess

maybe bitshitters will start jumping ship because they realize even with their false bravado that this is the end

[Anonymous No.55243214]

>>55242828
>>55242959
>>55243021

You're falling for fud. jews are fudding weak hands to buy low for what may be the last btc bull market ever in 2025/2026. The pseud-sycophant explained at least that much a few threads ago. XMR is poised to explode when, allegedly, they will blame the global crash at the end of the decade on crypto speculation, which will lead to their rolling out of cbdc.

[Anonymous No.55243239]

>>55243214
you desperately hope there will be another bitcoin bullmarket when it has no usecase

[Anonymous No.55243813]

>>55239892
>You're retarded. Gangstalking is a psyop. It doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.55244217]

>>55243239
>usecase arguments
My brother in Christ, I'm no maxi but the usecase of any asset is making money and/or a store of value of some kind. The secret of /biz/ is to diversify and then use the proceeds to invest on one's self. Lead, gold, silver, information and even king shitcoin does one or both.

[Anonymous No.55244249]

>>55244217
bitshit is on life support and only a fool invests in something because number go up

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.55245360]

>>55244217
I think you have one use of the word "asset" mixed up with another use of the word "asset"

Monero is an "asset" in the way that a bulldozer is an asset at a construction site or a service pistol is an asset to a police officer. It's a tool, a facilitator of other actions which generate value or accomplish tasks. Not an "asset" how you'd use it to describe a financial holding of some form where the only goal is to increase the value of the thing itself through economic productivity.

Moneros price against the dollar could go down significantly and it would still be an asset and not a liability (of course, to an extent. But even if all the "big players" got justed to 50 cents/monero, in due time more "big players" would arise as long as the tech continues to work as intended)

It's not a stock, it won't make you any money, it's a currency, a tool you use to facilitate exchanges of goods and services. An implement you do other things with. Simply holding monero will do you no good and it will do the monero economy no good, either.

A shovel is worthless unless it's digging holes.

[Anonymous No.55245372]

im going to join the cult. how much XMR do i need?

[Anonymous No.55245438]

>>55220227
delete system32

[Anonymous No.55245463]

>>55245372
18.7

[Anonymous No.55245485]

Does anyone download the entire 86gb blockchain?

[Anonymous No.55245519]

>>55245463
i bought 10 for now. i am a poorfag so this is a good start for me.

[Anonymous No.55245607]

>>55244249
>>55245360
I don't even hold btc, but if you wish to put all your eggs in one basket, then go with God.
>>55245485
>blockchain
>86gb
One of many copies I have, because power outtages love corrupting it.
>>55245519
Nice stack, but if you're really poor its just as important to stay liquid.

[Anonymous No.55245658]

>>55245607
thanks :)
i have been liquid and mulling over what to buy for some time. i always wanted some monero, lurked the threads all through 2020 to now. tried to mine it but my electricity is too expensive. i need a solid currency to fall back on if my other plays go to shit. the price is good, fundementals say pos is about to an hero so now is the time.

[Anonymous No.55245711]

>>55245658
Well, considering you live somewhere where electricity is a concern, that makes sense to stack. But like >>55244217 said, hedge your bets. There's "monero silver" if want to discretely turn some of it to something more tangible, without the tracking and I'm assuming vat.

[Anonymous No.55245946]

>>55244249

Pure unadulterated cope. Everything, including your precious shitcoin, trends to zero against Bitcoin. There truly is no second best.

[Anonymous No.55246243]

Any of you monerochads know of a printing service that takes xmr? Vinyl die cut and in north america ideally.