SEC Securities List

[Anonymous No.55193339]

These are the tokens the SEC claims are securities in the binance lawsuit.

[Anonymous No.55193366]

>>55193339
>Includes, but is not limited to
They're all securities man. If they're being promoted it's going to fail the Howey test.

[Anonymous No.55193370]

>>55193339
>XRP not listed
We eatin good tonight schizobros

[Anonymous No.55193395]

>>55193339
diversity=massive debt=hyperinflation
giga pump incoming

[Anonymous No.55193408]

>>55193370
XRP has and will always be, the standard.
"99% of cryptocurrencies will go to 0." -Braddy the baddy

[Anonymous No.55193424]

>>55193339
I HATE BEING AN ALGO BAGGY

[Anonymous No.55193431]

>>55193370
>-5%
surely

[Anonymous No.55193487]

>>55193431
>bitcoin decides to shit itself
>all the arbitrage bots follow suit and sell everything in similar proportions
I hate how much of a hold this slow piece of shit has.

[Anonymous No.55193505]

>>55193339
>BTC = a commodity
>ETH = no mention as a Security
you have your clarity. buy BTC and ETH.

[Anonymous No.55193512]

>>55193339
I hold none of these, whew.

[Anonymous No.55193516]

>>55193339
Why should anyone care about what the sec says?

[Anonymous No.55193520]

>>55193487
You know, you could've made money by getting a job if you didn't want to hold a bunch of obviously soon-to-be-deemed-securities-and-delisted shitcoins.

[Anonymous No.55193525]

>>55193339
prepare to get pump hard
everytime you see more niggers more spics you know its money injection time to pay off more debt
the result is always the same massive hyperinflation
works everytime
that is why the housing price never comes down but up in most diversity area
simple logic common sense
that is why you have unlimited crypto to supply unlimited diversity
simple as

[Anonymous No.55193540]

>>55193339
Basically, any token that has resisted hype by their founders is safe

[Anonymous No.55193539]

>>55193370
Based

>>55193339
No XRP listed

XRP to $329ppp000

[Anonymous No.55193556]

>>55193339
Tezos XTZ gonna win the alt game race. The only legit alt coin that already has not been ruled a security. It also has the best tech by fucking far.

[Anonymous No.55193558]

Does binance usa sell link?

[Anonymous No.55193598]

>>55193558
Does the lime even fit inside the coconut?

[Anonymous No.55193631]

>>55193516
They can go anywhere in the world and shut down projects.

They can take apart an organization, seize everything, put people in jail, extradite people, seize property, plant and equipment, fine people hosting servers, fine people transmitting web traffic, jail people making false statements of material fact, subpeona people into grand juries, etc., and so on.

The financial penalties can't be discharged in bankruptcy, attorneys have to file appeals in federal courts, coordinate enforcement with Interpol, etc., and so on.

I expect there will be delisting of these tokens from exchanges worldwide in 24 to 48 hours

[Anonymous No.55193656]

>>55193631
>They can go anywhere in the world
Not Anywhere

[Anonymous No.55193662]

By explicitly naming these tokens, this is the literal first piece of public guidance in a long, long time.

All of these are listed on coinbase

[Anonymous No.55193676]

>atom
Thank god. I will be buying this dip with both hands. Hope the fork dick kicks it back down une 5 dollars

[Anonymous No.55193701]

>>55193656
The countries you cite, okay...

>Iran's northern border was overrun by the Taliban
>Ukie Nazis are shelling Belgorod in the USSR
>Ecuador has been invaded by venezuelans and its eastern frontier is owned by gangsters
>Cuba is owned by the United States
>Syria is a pile of rubble outside Damascus and embargoed

So go ahead and trade crypto there genius

[Anonymous No.55193722]

>>55193676
LFG. It’s SLURP time.

[Anonymous No.55193754]

>>55193722
>>55193676
Right now Chuck Hoskinson is trying to decide how much coins to sell to pay for his looming legal fees

[Anonymous No.55193786]

>>55193701
There's Bitcoin Atm's all around Russia, it's one of the most popular places to exchange any kind of currency

Most Russians use Toncoin/Telegram

It's also like China where everything is done through phones

[Anonymous No.55193797]

>>55193339
It's missing LINK.

[Anonymous No.55193801]

>>55193701
>Ecuador
that's bolivia

[Anonymous No.55193899]

>>55193801
same answer applies

>>55193786
Putin can go and rip every ATM out of the wall and take it away in a truck, he made btc illegal before, without actually seizing atms, but there is no "legal system" to speak of to stop him from doing so if he wants to, and frankly I'd rather face the SEC and lawsuits than FSB and fingernail-pulling pliers and electrode clips on my scrotum for my passwords and hardware wallet

[Anonymous No.55193919]

KADENA IS NOT A SECURITY WE MADE IT SISTERS

[Anonymous No.55193975]

>>55193899
All the largest mining operations exist in Russia
>MUH PUTLER
is such a fucking pathetic cope when the DOJ seizes and arrests anyone who's ever had a connection to the silkroad or has used monero at any point in their life

Whatever, I don't need to convince you, only thing I need to do is continue laughing at western cucks taking it every single day of their life

[Anonymous No.55194007]

>>55193598
I'm not good at riddles. Does binace usa sell link?

[Anonymous No.55194029]

>>55193424
For real. All this shit does is dump

[Anonymous No.55194047]

>>55193975
>All the largest mining operations exist in Russia

Sure buddy... sure

[Anonymous No.55194096]

Read the actual docs, It's the most pathetic paper i've ever read. SEC is really acting in very bad faith here, Fear mongering at its best but Crypto is subhuman space and 80IQ so prepare for a likely dump

[Anonymous No.55194166]

The CFTC already filed against Binance so it appears the SEC and CFTC are going to let the courts decide who has jurisdiction but I have a feeling this is the start of the process.

At the end of the process there will be legal cryptos, securities (perhaps still tradable if exchanges feel like paying for oversight) or commodities, with their own rules.

Under a comprehensive legal framework of course that means enforcement of laws isolating Russian assets and Russian money transfers

[Anonymous No.55194620]

>>55193919
lets goooo

[Anonymous No.55194644]

Explain like I'm a nigger that has just been shot in the head while running from the cops.
If something I hold is mentioned on there. what does this mean for that token?

[Anonymous No.55194714]

>>55194644
>If something I hold is mentioned on there. what does this mean for that token?
the token would need to be registered (and approved) as a security by filing with the SEC.
it would also mean you would legally only be able to buy/sell that token on a regulated securities exchange. (which does not exist)
>but what happens to the token
it's price is more volatile because there are less market participants.

[Anonymous No.55194746]

>>55193516
>Why should anyone care about what the sec says?
In case you haven't noticed, /biz/ has been invaded by a bunch of salty authoritarian bootlickers from both /pol/ and /leftypol/ who wish nothing more than to make your life as miserable as theirs. You tried to escape and they can't have that.

[Anonymous No.55194757]

>>55194644
You get nothing! You lose! Good day sir!

[Anonymous No.55194759]

So If I own one of the listed coins, do I just self report to the SEC? Sorry for the dumb question I just want to stay in compliance. I just emailed them a screenshot of my account so hopefully that helps

[Anonymous No.55194825]

>>55194759
great satire, but I don't think most people will understand.

[Anonymous No.55194855]

>>55193539
XRP is already being sued you slack jawed troglodyte.

[Anonymous No.55195180]

>>55194855
bullshit you are little lying mongoloid
since when?

[Anonymous No.55195233]

Explain what is a security with your own words.

[Anonymous No.55195346]

>>55193339
The coins circled in red are the only ones for which the SEC gives direct proof of "expectation of profit" as per the Howey Test.
Out of these, the argument against ADA is probably the weakest, as it only involves boasting about exchanges.

The SEC's argument against the coins circled in green is very tenuous.
It's basically "people bought tokens and the team said they would develop the protocol, so people naturally thought their token's price would go up".
It's extremely easy to refute the notion that increased demand = price goes up.

[Anonymous No.55195396]

>>55193339
Wtf, why is that funny pic naming all my held coins frens?

[Anonymous No.55195482]

>>55193339
I'm not American and I don't know shit about securities, but I understand it has something to do with expecting profit. Can somebody explain to me why BUSD is on this list?

[Anonymous No.55195549]

>>55195346
>It's extremely easy to refute the notion that increased demand = price goes up.
yea, that's easy to refute because that's a logical fallacy.
but what actually matters, is 'expectation of profit', which is irrefutable.
me and you have had this conversation a couple times before.

[Anonymous No.55195573]

>>55195549
>what actually matters, is 'expectation of profit', which is irrefutable
The buyer expecting profits means nothing in and of itself. People buy old cans of soda expecting to sell for profit.
WHY he expects profit is what matters.

[Anonymous No.55195587]

>>55193339
>>55193370
>QNT not listed either
Let's go government Gilly bros! We gonna come out on top!

[Anonymous No.55195601]

>>55195573
yep, here we go again.
this time we're comparing vending machines to centralized exchanges.

[Anonymous No.55195631]

Why BUSD?

[Anonymous No.55195639]

>>55195601
The point is the buyer has to be led to expect profits by the seller.
And you have to be able to prove this.

[Anonymous No.55195695]

>>55193431
Xrp has been doing really well against the market over the last month. Wish it was a bigger % of my folio.

[Anonymous No.55195721]

>no LINK
lmao chainshit confirmed as not being secure by the US govt
get fucked baggies

[Anonymous No.55195729]

>>55195639
no, you do not need someone explicitly stating 'the price is going to increase' to have an 'expectation of profits', as per the howey test.
I've taken this journey with you before, bullet by bullet, I'm not going to do it again.
you are incorrect, you can read the SEC's guidance here:
>https://www.sec.gov/corpfin/framework-investment-contract-analysis-digital-assets
'ctrl + f' and jump to "2. Reasonable Expectation of Profits"

[Anonymous No.55195789]

>>55195729
>you do not need someone explicitly stating 'the price is going to increase' to have an 'expectation of profits', as per the howey test.
It's extremely difficult to prove such an expectation without that.
Look at the Howey case itself.

Which is why the SEC has literally only ever sued cryptos that literally told buyers to expect profits. This Binance case included.

[Anonymous No.55195816]

>>55195346
>as it only involves boasting about exchanges
that was my first thought too, that as an argument that is extremely weak
boasting that more people can get excess to your product is not the team itself saying investors can expect a profit
also very curious how the busd one is gonna turn out, the team promising a profit on a stable coin lol

it is also very telling that they filed a suit against binance first rather than the coins that are in bigger breach themselves

>>55195549
well ultimately none of our opinions matter as it will be a kike judge that presides the kangaroo court with its preformed judgement
it only matters how the rest of the world is gonna deal with this

[Anonymous No.55195834]

>>55195721
HOOOOOOOOOLY SHIT LAAAAMO LINKIES B T F O HAHAHAHASHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.55195920]

>>55193919
neither is pregnantbutt. WINNING!

[Anonymous No.55195924]

>>55195816
>it is also very telling that they filed a suit against binance first rather than the coins that are in bigger breach themselves
Yeah, there's no action at all against the coins named as "securities" in the complaint, so really there's no legal commitment on the SEC's part.

They also don't really have anything on couple of them (Atom, Mana, Algo). Those are as much securities as Ethereum is, and the SEC would've definitely included ETH in this complaint.

[Anonymous No.55195947]

>>55195789
>It's extremely difficult to prove such an expectation without that.
no, it's not. you're retarded. not going to spoonfeed you again.
>Look at the Howey case itself.
look at the SEC's guidance itself.

[Anonymous No.55195958]

>>55195947
>no, it's not
Then why has the SEC exclusively gone after cryptos that literally tell buyers to expect profits?

[Anonymous No.55195994]

>>55195924
>[ALGO is] as much securit[y] as Ethereum is
yes.
>and the SEC would've definitely included ETH in this complaint.
no, you've got to be trolling.

[Anonymous No.55196011]

>>55195947
There’s a massive difference between legal theory and case law.
And your little guidance isn’t even legal theory, it’s guidance.

[Anonymous No.55196025]

>>55195994
>the SEC would've definitely included ETH in this complaint
They mentioned the top alts (obviously including XRP as well), they would've definitely included ETH if they believed it was a security.
But they didn't.

What's more: they didn't mention a single coin that was explicitly cleared by the CFTC.

[Anonymous No.55196049]

>>55193339
so far
>>55193370
ongoing case

[Anonymous No.55196072]

>>55193366
fpbp
/thread

[Anonymous No.55196077]

>>55195958
>Then why has the SEC exclusively gone after cryptos that literally tell buyers to expect profits?
what cryptos are you referring to? name them.
the only crypto being sued by the SEC, as far as I'm aware, is XRP.

[Anonymous No.55196088]

>>55196077
Why the fuck are you even trying to argue with me if you don't even know what cryptos the SEC has actually sued for being securities?

[Anonymous No.55196131]

>>55195924
it does feel like a lot of algo and panic selling
like is there anyone that bought under 18k that is bothered by this
do feel sorry for the 30k fomo buyers

[Anonymous No.55196134]

>>55193339
So what does Coinbase need to do to comply?

[Anonymous No.55196153]

>>55196025
>coin that was explicitly cleared by the CFTC
is there a list of these somewhere

[Anonymous No.55196172]

>>55196088
so aside from XRP, you can't even name one.
if you want to try; you can go look here and scan through all the SEC cases related to crypto
>https://www.sec.gov/spotlight/cybersecurity-enforcement-actions

[Anonymous No.55196196]

>>55196011
it's detailed explanation of the law, that currently exists, from the SEC chair himself.
you can kindly fuck off.

[Anonymous No.55196214]

>>55196153
They've mentioned a few different lists at various times, here's an example. They also mentioned Litecoin and maybe a couple of others.
Note that the CFTC stated this in official court documents, so that's their official legal stance.

[Anonymous No.55196227]

>>55196172
>so aside from XRP, you can't even name one.
Of course I can.
I told you that every single crypto sued by the SEC for being securities, literally told their buyers to expect profits.

If you want to refute me, find a crypto sued by the SEC for being a security, without telling their buyers to expect profits.

[Anonymous No.55196230]

>>55193339
>BUSD
>investment contract

[Anonymous No.55196243]

>>55193701
>USSR

[Anonymous No.55196249]

>>55196196
You literally do not know the difference between legal theory and case law.

[Anonymous No.55196250]

Hello you fucking niggers, I own AVAX, a digital commodity

[Anonymous No.55196257]

>>55195631
Because, that's why.

[Anonymous No.55196297]

>>55196196
>it's detailed explanation of the law, that currently exists, from the SEC chair himself.
Protip: the SEC chair still has to go to court and pray that the judge will rule in his favor.
Better people have written better "explanations of the law" and gotten their ass handed to them in court.

Hell, the SEC chair doesn't even get to decide what cases the SEC takes to court lel
You're clueless.

[Anonymous No.55196307]

>>55193339
Avax Chads stay winning.

[Anonymous No.55196319]

>>55196227
>If you want to refute me, find a crypto sued by the SEC for being a security, without telling their buyers to expect profits.
I would love to, except it's impossible, because XRP is the ONLY cryptocurrency being sued by the SEC.
>I told you that every single crypto sued by the SEC for being securities, literally told their buyers to expect profits.
a cryptocurrency being referred to as a security in court documents while the SEC is suing a CEX, is not the same or even close to, the SEC suing or 'going after' individual cryptocurrencies.
>Of course I can.
and we've played this game before as well. no, you can't.

[Anonymous No.55196323]

>>55193370
Thats because XRP wasn't available on binance.us to begin with because it had already been explicitly labeled a security you absolute retard.

[Anonymous No.55196330]

Th amount of copium ITT could kill 1000s of jews

[Anonymous No.55196343]

>>55196319
>XRP is the ONLY cryptocurrency being sued by the SEC.
They sued shit like Enigma too.
Stop posting.

[Anonymous No.55196351]

>>55196319
>XRP is the ONLY cryptocurrency being sued by the SEC
The SEC has sued other cryptos for being securities.
Successfully so.
And they all told their buyers to expect profits.

[Anonymous No.55196362]

>>55196249
jesus could you please be more condescending, is that even possible.
the relevant cases are cited at the bottom of the page.
now you can fuck off as well.

[Anonymous No.55196380]

The USA has become such a shithole country, boy oh boy

[Anonymous No.55196388]

>>55193339
>no POLKADOT ticker: DOT
>no POLKADOT ticker: DOT
>no POLKADOT ticker: DOT
>no POLKADOT ticker: DOT
buy?

[Anonymous No.55196400]

>>55196319
>>55196343
Don't forget LBRY.

[Anonymous No.55196416]

>>55196343
>They sued shit like Enigma too.
no, the SEC did not sue enigma.
you can stop posting.

[Anonymous No.55196436]

>>55196416
How the fuck did you not just fucking Bing it, you complete turd lmao

[Anonymous No.55196455]

Binánc

[Anonymous No.55196462]

>>55196416
>the SEC did not sue enigma

[Anonymous No.55196489]

>>55196436
they were not sued.
if they were, you would find "SEC v. Enigma".
they were issued a cease & desist and settled out of court.

[Anonymous No.55196615]

>>55196489
They did sue LBRY.

[Anonymous No.55196621]

>>55193556
Then why did I sell mine for XRP and XRP has outperformed it since?

[Anonymous No.55196650]

>>55195729
It's literally not a contract though dude.
kek

[Anonymous No.55196651]

>>55193919
They wouldn't fuck with their boy Based Will Martino

[Anonymous No.55196684]

>>55196400
>>55196615
the SEC did sue LBRY.
they were in communication for 5 years and when the SEC found LBRY was shutting down operations, they sued them to get a judgement while they still existed.

[Anonymous No.55196692]

>>55193339
How is vechain not a security

[Anonymous No.55196703]

>>55196489
Protip: “charges” means criminal action.

[Anonymous No.55196727]

>>55196380
Its going to be worse. They are going to compete with china about who can treat his slaves the worse. If you are still in the US the time is running out

[Anonymous No.55196757]

>>55196703
no, it does not you retard.
the SEC cannot initiate a criminal case.

[Anonymous No.55196813]

>>55196757
>the SEC cannot initiate a criminal case
Which is why you won’t find any SEC v. Enigma complaint.
The SEC acts via the FBI for criminal charges.
https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2020-37
>ICO Issuer Settles SEC Registration Charges

[Anonymous No.55196895]

>>55196813
no, you won't find that because Enigma was not sued.

[Anonymous No.55196934]

>>55194644
it means the party is over, sell it fast before the founders dump their bags if they haven't already

[Anonymous No.55197085]

>>55196895
The SEC brought (or threatened to bring) legal action against a number of cryptos for being unregistered securities, and ALL of them literally told their buyers to expect profits.

also,
>the SEC only ever sued XRP, no-one else
>the SEC also sued LBRY
kek

[Anonymous No.55197160]

>>55193339
Bullish for Matic

[Anonymous No.55197245]

>>55195346
I don't (and have never) own any of those but most of those seem like very weak justifications

[Anonymous No.55197272]

>>55197085
so now we're backpedaling from 'sued' to 'brought (or threatened to bring) legal action'.
I'm just so fucking tired of you.
you didn't get it the last 2 threads we argued about it, of course you're not gonna get it today either.
no, a cryptocurrency representative does not have to explicitly tell anyone the 'price will increase' to be classified as a security.
nor is that the basis for SEC enforcement.

[Anonymous No.55197301]

>>55194029
The suffering with algo doesn't end

[Anonymous No.55197316]

>>55197245
>most of those seem like very weak justifications
yes, they are weak justifications... because he's making an incorrect observation.
>https://www.sec.gov/corpfin/framework-investment-contract-analysis-digital-assets

[Anonymous No.55197323]

>>55197272
>now we're backpedaling from 'sued' to 'brought (or threatened to bring) legal action'
Not really, because LBRY literally got sued lol

Also, the point is the SEC only goes after cryptos that literally tell people to expect profits.

[Anonymous No.55197344]

>>55195631
BECAUSE SHUT THE FUCK UP AND PAY TAXES YOU FUCKING CHUD

[Anonymous No.55197401]

BATTIES you might be safe (for a while) (if Lobes don't get ya first).

[Anonymous No.55197470]

>>55197323
>Not really, because LBRY literally got sued lol
you didn't mention lbry, you haven't mentioned 'literally' a single coin that was sued.
>Also, the point is the SEC only goes after cryptos that literally tell people to expect profits.
I understand your point and it's incorrect.
you are not aware of whom or what enforcement actions the SEC has taken.
you are also unaware of whom or what enforcement actions the SEC has PUBLICLY taken.
and if you were, you would've just told me what cryptocurrencies were sued by the SEC.

[Anonymous No.55197676]

I can't wait to see this faggot meltdown

[Anonymous No.55197681]

SEC says BTC ETH and LTC are commodities.

[Anonymous No.55197705]

Anyone who bought BUSD expecting the price to go up is a certifiable idiot.
I'd like to hear the SEC's argument that it was marketed as an investment.

[Anonymous No.55197709]

>>55197681
no, only the CFTC says that.

[Anonymous No.55197719]

>>55197681
bags getting heavy?

[Anonymous No.55197729]

>>55193339
Absolutely based SEChads.
Time to flush down the cesspit of shitcoins, ETH and all ERC shit-tokens included.

[Anonymous No.55197730]

>>55197705
at this point I think there is a 'must be marketed as an investment' meme; I just didn't get the meme memo.

[Anonymous No.55197738]

>>55193370
XRP and perhaps LINK are the MOST OBVIOUS illegal securities in the whole shitcoin toilet bowl.
They will be the first to go.

[Anonymous No.55197753]

>>55193505
Nah, they've clearly, and on multiple occasions stated that BTC is the only digital commodity and ETH specifically is a security. Which it is, of course.

[Anonymous No.55197943]

>>55196323
Binance got sued, not .us

[Anonymous No.55197967]

>>55196250
WAGMI AVAX bro

[Anonymous No.55198092]

>>55197676
I like how to this day he still gets introduced as "Ethereum Co-founder", since this will forever be the only relevant thing he has been part of, even in the moment when his own crypto projects is getting addressed.

[Anonymous No.55198165]

>>55197753
ok shithead well why isn't ETH on the list of claimed securities that binance.us sells?

[Anonymous No.55198182]

>>55198165
>This includes, but is not limited to, ...

[Anonymous No.55198247]

>>55198182
you would think if the second most popular cryptodoohickey by market cap is a security it would be a shining star on that list.

[Anonymous No.55198312]

>>55193516
Because no institutional trader is going to pump your bags to $100k if they can’t buy it

[Anonymous No.55198378]

Oh boy, I love all these faggots who keep kissing sec ass and claiming everything is a security and if the sec says so it must be right.

[Anonymous No.55198402]

>not ETH
I'm gonna be so fucking rich

[Anonymous No.55198413]

A jew declared a coin was a security

A jew declared a person was a nazi

A jew declared

[Anonymous No.55198451]

>>55197676
Hes still rich. lmk when they take everything from him and he ends up in the dumpster

[Anonymous No.55198473]

>>55193339
>algo

HHAHAHAHA im glad I traded it for doge

[Anonymous No.55198806]

>>55193339
I hope they do not come for DeFi protocols soon. I have been enjoying the likes of Radiant Capital and SpoolFi and won't want to stop now.

[Anonymous No.55198826]

>>55198451
Imagine defending that cuck. I want to see what you look like.

[Anonymous No.55198885]

>>55193339
>tfw the only crypto ever worth a shit are XRP and Monero at the end of the day because all the others are subject to jew bullshit.
If there are others I missed let me know and tell me why

[Anonymous No.55198896]

>>55196250
> AVAX
>a digital commodity

Lolno.
Turkish software company issuing an illegal security.
You subhumans are stupid af.

[Anonymous No.55199213]

>>55194714
It also means that any changes made to code of the crypto, especially forks, would require them to register with the SEC again, from scratch.
Which will kill any crypto labeled a security.
Registering with the SEC as a security, is an expensive and lengthy process.
This will kill innovation.
Unless your crypto is perfect, and never needs to make any changes to it's code in the future:
In which case you'll be fine after they register.

[Anonymous No.55199249]

>>55193656
So Russia is just a cuck for a Rothschild country, China?

[Anonymous No.55199317]

Hello you fucking niggers, I own AVAX, a digital commodity

[Anonymous No.55199410]

>>55199213
>This will kill innovation.
why?

[Anonymous No.55199432]

>>55199213
they just leave the US, lose some liquidity in the short term but get rid of political persecutions

[Anonymous No.55199833]

>>55195587
based quant holder

[Anonymous No.55199838]

>>55198896
>Lolno.
>Turkish software company issuing an illegal security.
>You subhumans are stupid af.
one of the most secure cryptos in the world and you only throw shit bc you're getting paid. stfu retard

[Anonymous No.55199855]

>>55193339
Thats fine but im not gonna sell. I just like the coin is all haha

[Anonymous No.55199913]

SEC also scrubbed all details of Hinman from the gov website.

Cohencidence?

[Anonymous No.55199928]

>>55193631
Threw up in my mouth from laughing so hard

[Anonymous No.55199950]

>SEC bends the knee.
Bullish for real money (BTC/XMR)

[Anonymous No.55199979]

>>55199410
Because any time they change their code, especially with a fork, they will have to register as a new security.
Registering is an expensive and lengthy process.
This will naturally cause crypto companies to be reluctant to make any changes to the code, in order to avoid the time and expenses of having to register again.
Thus killing innovation.

[Anonymous No.55199987]

>>55199432
Correct

[Anonymous No.55200134]

>>55193505
>buy BTC and ETH
Why would I harm myself in such a way?

[Anonymous No.55200162]

>>55194746
This nigger fucks. The State is memeshit, ignore it and keep stacking real money.

[Anonymous No.55200199]

>>55194746
What. You sound like a confused jew. Seriously. How heavy are your bags and how much you wish to dump on a greater fool in a scale from 0 not all to 10 asap

[Anonymous No.55200211]

>>55196250
Based

[Anonymous No.55200250]

>>55195573
>>55195549
>expectation of profit

Expectation of profit is only one of 4 qualifications that must be met, in order to be a security.
One of the other four qualifications is far more relevant to crypto:
Common Enterprise

I highly recommend reading the below link.
Yes, it's lengthy.
But it goes into detail how there are 3 separate, and contradictory Circuit Court of Appeals rulings regarding what constitutes a Common Enterprise.

None of the three cases have been heard by the Supreme Court.
And until they do hear one of these cases, or something similar, then there is ambiguity as to what constitutes a Common Enterprise.

If you look over the three cases, in option A, almost no crypto would meet the requirements for a Common Enterprise.
Whereas under options B and C, many crypto would meet the requirements.

The law is vague in this regard, and needs clarity.

https://blj.ucdavis.edu/archives/vol-5-no-2/why-the-common-enterprise-test.html

[Anonymous No.55200275]

>>55194644
It means your a faggot and faggots always lose.

[Anonymous No.55200285]

>>55200162
>Le Boomers ruined the world!!!!11
Sure, blame and resent people that had it
better than you yet had zero control over what the overlords would do. It's the BOOMERS DOOD they ruined everything!!!!!!!!! It's the blue collar working class boomer's fault they were born with the government running 3 news channels. Fucking retards should have known about crime stats and race realism, but instead they CHOSE to be brainwashed by the first superpower MIC to ever exist!!!!111 Fucking BOOMERS DOOOOOD making $100 an hour and buying cars without seatbelts or airbags or unleaded gasoline, or even worse BUYING A HOUSE WHAT THE FUUCCKKKKK DOOOOD, they should have STOPPED ALL THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK BOOMERS DOOOOOOOD!!!!!!! I HATE YOU DAD!!!!

[Anonymous No.55200321]

>>55200285
Blaming the boomer is the newest Jewish narrative. Something is in the air and they are looking to direct hate away from jews to somebody else. And nazis isn't pulling it anymore. They run that meme into the ground

[Anonymous No.55200328]

not my problem
not my problem
not my problem
not my problem
not my problem

[Michlan No.55200378]

>>55195549
>>55200250
>>55195573
I am a Filipino lawyer.
Why is that relevant, I mean, I'm from a shithole, right??
Well, Flipland has many similarities to US Law, on both a constitutional standpoint, and also some of its laws were just copied from US Laws. Our interpretations (like Howey) are almost exactly the same too.
Among them was the Securities Act creating the SEC. We literally almost have a word-for-word copy of the law.
Hence, our interpretations are taken from US sources. So, I can say I am sort of knowledgable with this topic.

That said, BTC and ETH are not securities. Especially BTC. If anything XRP could be a security simply because the owners have shown multiple times that XRP isn't for utility, but as an investment, and that they control the entire thing. The owners were retards but that's not the topic at hand here.

BNB is not a security. BNB has created L2s, is a platform for people making their own tokens, and so on. Also, the Howey Test is the absolute prerequisite. Since it isn't a security, everything the SEC says is irrelevant regarding BNB.
Though I'm still reading the complaint, so this is just a side comment.

[Anonymous No.55200578]

>>55200378
>ODL blocks your path
Back to law school.

[Anonymous No.55201198]

>>55197470
>you didn't mention lbry
I said there were coins that got sued by the SEC for being securities.
Obviously that includes coins that got sued by the SEC for being securities, like LBRY.

You pilpulling rat.

>it's incorrect
Name one (1) coin against which the SEC has undertaken legal action for being a security, and they didn't tell their buyers to expect profits.

[Anonymous No.55201207]

>>55200250
>Expectation of profit is only one of 4 qualifications that must be met, in order to be a security.
Yes, and the other 3 apply to pretty much any good that is bought and sold.
The expectation of profit is the key.

[Anonymous No.55201431]

>>55198806
kek. poor jeet

[Anonymous No.55201562]

>>55195482
Because Gensler drinks varnish

[Anonymous No.55201588]

>>55200285
Calm down grandpa. It's not about blaming boomers, it's about being mad their lead rotted brains can't comprehend that thing have only gotten worse since at least 1975

[Anonymous No.55202079]

>>55201588
>It's not about blaming boomers
Why wouldn't we blame the people that are responsible for 80% of the problems of our generations?

[Anonymous No.55202086]

>>55200285
>>55200321
You deserve everything you get boomers. You knowingly profited of the planet with disregard for the consequences for future generations.

[Anonymous No.55202103]

>>55194166
>securities (perhaps still tradable if exchanges feel like paying for oversight)

cryptocurrencies cannot conform to US Securities law as they are written as the owner must be registered. Cryptocurrencies are essentially bearer shares.

[Anonymous No.55202123]

>>55197676
>oh no he only stopped being rich after a wealth of $500 million and he couldnt make it to $1 billion

yeah im sure he will have a big meltdown

[Anonymous No.55202721]

>>55196250
that's great Anon but you are not a validator just like me

[Anonymous No.55202929]

>>55202086
>Hate the boomer goy
>Hate him do it!
>ignore the jew
...

[Anonymous No.55203469]

DOT wins again

[Anonymous No.55203647]

>>55200250
now we're pretending we're confused on the definition of 'common enterprise'?

[Anonymous No.55203843]

>>55203469
all coins are securities with their definition, dot included

[Anonymous No.55204409]

>>55193339
>no link
Were gonna make it marines

[Anonymous No.55204513]

Why the fuck do chudlinkers escape this mess!?!?? Are you serious fucking LinkCels are going to dodge this bullshit and the rest of us get to suffer? Fuck this.

[Anonymous No.55204554]

>>55197943
Binance US have a massive class action against them since 2022.

[Anonymous No.55204564]

>>55204513
this has been told many times here
swift and international financial plumbing supersedes the authority of national interests such as the sec
it was precleared from the very start

[Anonymous No.55204736]

>>55194746
this guy fucking gets it.
fuck the people.
crush the state.

[Anonymous No.55204795]

>>55193370
Where tf do we buy xrp as Americans though