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https://cosmosunited.org/
Cosmos community is fed up with the validator cartel and cosmos insiders, after the attempted 20% dilution and the constant grants to unaccountable entities the community decided to take matters into their own hands and fork the cosmos hub

>> No.55182496

>>55182473
First time I hear of this, OP tell me more

>> No.55182503

wat

>> No.55182512

>>55182496
Cosmos is just a shitshow, to the point nobody wants their brand attached to it, there is many shady foundations (iinterchain foundation and all in bits) that are supposed to be developing the chain but all they do is live off the genesis allocation.

>> No.55182523

>>55182512
Cosmos is such a bubble, its the first time I hear of this internal drama

>> No.55182545
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>>55182523
Well DYDX is building on cosmos, yet they are so ashamed of the cosmos community they dont want their brand attached to it, this is just one of many examples of why ATOM needs to be forked

>> No.55182559

>>55182473
20% dilution?

>> No.55182587

>>55182559
ATOM core teams and main ICF board members attempted to pass a 20% dilution end of last year, the initiative was called ATOM 2.0, they proposed many improvements to the chain (which werent bad by themself) but the price to get those features shipped was turning ATOM from private property into toilet paper.
Luckily the community after fighting managed to stop them but it was just a temporary measure as now they raised the tax and started to give grants to retards and grifters, forking is the only way forward now.

>> No.55182616

>>55182587
where i can find more info on the attempted dilution?

>> No.55182640

>>55182616
https://www.mintscan.io/cosmos/proposals/78
https://www.mintscan.io/cosmos/proposals/80
https://www.mintscan.io/cosmos/proposals/86
These are the proposals that helped stop the attempt, everything is very well documented on chain.
Every one of these proposals had very well articulated papers that explained the attempted hostile take over.
The cosmos cartel however recently started to censor the main cosmos explorers under the pretense of spam prevention (they posted a fuckload of phishing links on chain all at once spending huge amounts of ATOMs to then have an excuse to censor all explorers) so that the chain and governance system cannot be used anymore to stop them.
cosmos is becoming very fast the most dystopic chain in crypto.

>> No.55182924

Rolled my ATOM into BTC some weeks ago, it was ~40% of my portfolio as well

>> No.55182932

Lmao another shit chain /biz/ shilled relentlessly instead of cardano. Cardanochads stay comfy

>> No.55182956

>>55182545
Kujira is doing the same, bridging over to arbitrum and as many other non cosmos chains as they can.

>> No.55182962

>>55182640
Can you link the papers I want to read more

>> No.55183020

>>55182962

https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/2/pad/view/stbpD61Y-yAkrUdV+a2GlwM6UE5A-K82O9mtu5rEwkQ/
txt versions
https://ghostbin.me/63417d218e7fc

https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/2/pad/view/v3QYkKeqenjgK+yPi8bDmuYv4cOBalDaei4sLta6RTg/

https://pastebin.com/fVQ81d7H

Here's the main papers that expose the cosmos cartel, the main faces behind this plot are Zaki manian and ethan bunchman they both have ties to the democratic party and (((ethan))) was put there by a soros associate.
>>55182956
cosmos as of now is cancer, kujira team is smart
>>55182932
cosmos tech stack is great, it just needs to get rid of the asiatic jeet infested core team then it will pump hard
>>55182924
BTC is the safest bet, always keep a moon bag tho, cosmos united will fix all of cosmos flaws so maybe look into it when it comes out

>> No.55183090

>>55183020
I'd like to see gelotto do the same and make their own chain, since they seem to be cool guys, but instead they seem to be trying to save Juno, which is just a stone around their neck.
Hopefully with the 30X gas fee increase the Juno devs are pushing through, they finally jump ship.
https://www.mintscan.io/juno/proposals/297

>> No.55183166

>>55183090
Agreed gelotto should abandon JUNO
juno is just communist chain, after they seized takumi assets they pretty much made their own token worthless, the whole point of blockchains is censorship resistance , stealing from the rich is not virtue, the gas fee hike its just cope from a dying chain.

>> No.55183180

So what changes does this fork have?

>> No.55183182

>>55183020
reading

>> No.55183333
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>>55183180
main changes:
-direct governance
-secret voting
-self stake to become a validator

Cosmos united changes the governance system from representative governance where validators vote for stakers to direct governace and makes the vote secret. Validators will need more self stake then the last validator to be included in the set

The decision to give governance powers to validators in Cosmos was made to remove the problem of idle voting power, but it has created a misalignment of incentives since validating is a technical and infrastructure job.
Validators are not experts in governance or voting, and many do not have a stake in ATOMs. This is a flawed system since people without stake in the token allocation cannot be good representatives for token holders.
The current system is leading to expropriation of wealth as validators start to vote themselves grants they recently allocated more them 1 million ATOMs to validators insiders and a turkey hearthquake relief fund with 0 transparency (why a blockchain should fund cahrity is beyond me).
The entire system is weighted towards passivity, and efforts to change it or hold validators accountable are unsuccessful.

Stakeholders are left demoralized and accepting of the rules of the game, rather than working to change them. The key to solving this issue is establishing a governance system that values property rights and skin in the game, giving property owners the right to make decisions that impact the network.

>> No.55183579

>>55182473
$bits will flip atom>>55182932

No one cares that your in Hotchkinsons rape harem.

>> No.55183833

>>55183180
Btc bridge that works

>> No.55183909

>>55183579
Normally forks don't get a higher mcap then the original but cosmos is so disfunctional that I could see that happen, flipping a 3 bill chain would be the ultimate fuck you to all the jeets and asians at the core of cosmos

>> No.55183945

>>55182473
Bag holding are you OP?

>> No.55183974

>>55183909
Damn just checked all cosmos founders are third worlders no wonder the chain is a shitshow
Zaki jeet
(((ethan)))
jae south korean

>> No.55184011

>>55183945
ATOM pays such a nice dollar dividend its been a perfect inflation hedge, i was in the ico, cosmos has threated me very nicely, i just dont want grifters to take away my nice staking rewards and make the token useless and debasable, thats why i support the fork.

just through the airdrops cosmos has created enormous amount of money, united will have more consumer chains the cosmos all through airdrops.

>> No.55184196

>>55183974
No gods and no masters, cosmos must succeed where eth failed getting rid of founders, all founders eventually become a drag to the protocol
people with faces eventually get compromised its only a matter of time

>> No.55184236

How would a fork work with interchain security? Would the fork become a rival hub within the same eco and compete with the original?

>> No.55184270

>>55184011
Your a faggot

>> No.55184289

>>55184236
Like faggots fucking

>> No.55184313

>>55184236
yeah it will, and given ATOM is fully controlled by 15 validators and a bunch of ICF board directors, people will quickly realize which is the best hub, bad governance is capital destruction, eventually ATOM token holders will be debased to 0 through community pool taxes and grants.
>>55184270
>>55184289
projecting much?
no need for us to know what kind of porn you watch

>> No.55184580

>>55184313
Ethan is a king. King of the cosmos. He invented dpos.
Zaki delivers with many air drops.

Seethe

>> No.55184690

>>55184580
(((Ethan))) is just a grifter dropped in by soros by jae kwon own admission, he is there to manage the treasure pile, not to make you rich, he is in the board of directors of the icf and also one of the main beneficiaries of ICF grants through informal systems, FINMA will eventually crack down on their bs, its illegal to grant your own entities under swiss laws (enforcement takes 3/4 yrs).
look at zaki's chain sommelier its just ethernal dump and bagholding, he is very good at making himself rich he doesnt fucking care about plebs like you, he tried to dilute atom by 20% while creating a new centralized governance board which would manage it, while completely demoting the power of token holders.
neither zaki or ethan invented dpos
if jeets are the people you look up to you will loose all your money very quickly.

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>>55182473
Can some high IQ anon give me the actual redpill on Cosmos? It seems to be one of the strongest tokens in 2022 and continues to hold steady. Does it have promise? Was thinking of going 1/3 COSMOS, 1/3 LINK or MATIC and 1/3 BTC.

>> No.55184777

>>55184694
After BTC and ETH cosmos is the only legit ecosystem, the appchain thesis is the only proper way to scale, the cosmos SDK is one of the best toolsets for developers to quickly and easily build products, by 2025/6 everyone will be building on top of cosmos, ATOM will surely outperform next cycle, but keep in mind the chain has the worse governance system in the ecosystem that doesn't mean it won't pump but eventually they will fully centralize the chain, hopefully this fork succeeds and keeps them in check or overtakes them.
Competition is always good.

>> No.55184913

>>55182496
first I've heard of this. I heard ICP had a fork too for similar reasons.

>> No.55184926

>>55184690
Well you are right about sommelier, shitcoin.

But what are your thoughts on nueteon?

>> No.55184984

>>55182473
Atom is amazing tech for the same reason its current form is doomed. Anyone can make a cosmos chain without paying for atom or following any gay ass rules. However the so called core team have been seething for years over the tech being used for everything from Binance token to Luna and them not seeeing any of that money. Ultimate case of token not needed and that was a good thing. I will be looking forward to the fork and will invest into any projects run by whites who dont sperg about ancap shit. (Im an ancap but please if you are running a business shut the fuck up about it)

>> No.55185703

Boring OP, less walls of text pls
just answer 2 questions, will it pump?
if yes how do i buy?

>> No.55185989

>>55184926
neutron is shitcoin without staking rewards, it will have a pump and then die like sommelier, or be used to control staking derivatives through lido

>> No.55185999

>>55185703
it will flip atom, so should be a very profitable play
you cannot buy, it will be airdropped to ATOM holders

>> No.55186166

>>55185999
when will it come out?

>> No.55186548

>>55183333
Idk why they thought that giving governance powers to validators was a good idea

>> No.55186592

>>55182545
Dydx cucked from eth to cosmos and is now trapped lollmao

>> No.55186653
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ethan is a jew fuck whos stealing all of the communities money through the icf.
zaki is wealthy pajeet whos family comes from money and cant cold shit either.
jack simp is a whiny bitch who is pro censorship to the max,
jacob is a 2 faced fat fuck who cant ever be trusted.
that grace bitch tried to a take over in aib.
all of them seethe because jae is the only one that can build. jae got red pilled over the scamdemic and now they want to through him under the buss. gnoland looks interesting.

>> No.55186666

>>55186592
cosmos is not bad tech, its just being controlled by grifters, get rid of the grifters and it will become the biggest ecosystem in crypto

>> No.55186691

>>55186653
jae is acting as controlled opposition imo, they all agree behind the scenes or he is seriously compromised, grace is nsa asset so they prob have dirt on him and cant be trusted.

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is there anyway to take secret networks monero bridge and actually do something with it? monero coming into the cosmos in a genuine way would be amazing. maybe the new fork can bridge xmr and take fees.

>> No.55186800

>>55186715
get in touch with the devs, they havent released any roadmap yet, but i assume they wanna be connected to as many chains as possible

>> No.55186813

>>55186166
nothing announced yet
>>55186548
validators are literally the worst people to govern a chain, most of them are poor and dont have any tokens or dont care about the chains the validate, in no circumstance representative governance is preferrable to direct governance, also the fact that all votes are public just creates the perfect enviroment for bribery and corruption

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the validator cartel are a bunch of sjw types who sniff each others farts. hard to find based and redpilled folk in the community, but theyre there.
can the barrier for validating get easier? so everyone and anyone can contribute and make $ and not these greasy jew fucks and their pajeet coders?

https://youtu.be/jl-T0mgH13Y

>> No.55186837

>>55186800
who the fuck do i get in touch with fren?
xmr + ibc is the future.

>> No.55186864

>>55184926

https://youtu.be/b3BC7Fh6yNk

>> No.55186867

>>55186837
go on the keybase linked on their site and message the devs
>>55186818
hopefully this cosmos fork will get rid of those sjw types, imo tho the problems with most validators is that they end up being commies cause they get to harvest fees from chain with very little work, validating is low skilled labour, and if this new hub wants to compete with the main hub it will need to scale ICS very fast, the way to prfit from the chain should be staking, validating needs to become way less important

>> No.55186878

>>55182545
They're not ashamed, they just want to take credit for someone else's work lol

Do you think Amazon AWS associates itself with all the open source developers they rip off?

>> No.55186898

>>55186878
well that can happen cause the hub failed to properly profit take credit and create network effect out of the tech they built.
Bad governance, worse eladership and extreme toxicity is the cause, if the culture was different dydx would be proudly announcing they are a cosmos product, so the problem is jeets

>> No.55187008

>>55186837
Monero doesn't have a way to do signature verification. Check the work beth did for the Monero eth bridge. IBC doesn't work with monero because there are no smart contracts.

>> No.55187019

>>55186898
> so the problem is jeets

Sounds like you're a racist fag and should fuck off

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>>55187019
i can smell the curry from here sir.
good luck with your chain managed by people that cant figure out how to keep their water drinkable and their poo in the loo
>>55187008
can use a wrapped version on monero for ibc

>> No.55187107

>>55187008
secret networks xmr bridge could be a great starting poin. maybe nomic? ill also take wrapped xmr if its done right.

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>>55184777
>After BTC and ETH cosmos is the only legit ecosystem
You forgot about Avalanche which is better than Ethereum and Cosmos.
>the appchain thesis is the only proper way to scale
yes through Avalanche Subnets, which are also superior to Cosmos.

also Cosmos? more like Jeetmos.

>> No.55187135

>>55187107
Last I checked, liquidity for swapping out to XMR over Secret was absolute shit. Hopefully Nomic will attract liquidity, they're partnered with Kujira which should help.

>> No.55187144

>>55187122
dont really care about avalanche right now, i only care about dejeeting cosmos so that token holders get control of the chain, your observation is right tho, currently cosmos leadership is from mumbai seoul and israel, this needs to change

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alot of these fags glow so hard as well. from their jesuit training to their soros handouts.

>> No.55187161

>>55187145
they are all compromised or corrupt, i dont trust people with faces, anon team is the only way to move past the founders cult

>> No.55187174

>>55187135
thats because ui/ux suck, nor is it meaningfully decentralized, trustless, censorship resistant or permissionless. i imagine anyone dealing with pow chains like nomic would be a great place to start in terms of getting xmr to leave its fucking silo.

>> No.55187182

So what will happen to the fork’s price soon after fork? Will it dip just like a bitcoin fork? (This is under the assumption the fork eventually flips the OG.)

>> No.55187187

>>55185999
Airdropped how? Don't want to end up with another cabal holding all the tokens in charge of the fork.
Also this is a perfect example of why PoS is shit.

>> No.55187189

>>55187174
monero would need taproot to work with the nomic bridge

>> No.55187205
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>>55187144
>dont really care about avalanche right now
you should tho because its already superior even superior to Cosmos if it was fixed.
Also Avalanche has way better Business development than Cosmos and the Cosmos fork put together.
John Wu already onboarded several multi trillion dollar usecases from Tradfi in just a couple months and onboarded entire countries (like Taiwan) to run their DID and insuramce system on a Subnet.
All Subnets also have to validate the Primary Network (X,P,C) chain so every company will have AVAX on their Balance Sheet and burn some of it when making any moved like creating assets/new blockchains/new subnets.

The Plan is clear from Ava Labs, the leadership is top tier, everything that is done is good for token holders, no dramas.
also I knew Cosmos was a failure when I watched that interview between Emin Gün Sirer and the stuttering Poojeet from Cosmos.

>> No.55187208

>>55187174
Also secret is just generally a bag of shit, being impossible to develop on, pushing updates that wipe out all AMD CPU based validators.

>> No.55187217

>>55187205
Piss off pooskin. AVAX shills are almost as bad as linkies.

>> No.55187221

>>55187182
Well it depends on too many factors, but let's say it opens at 1/3 of ATOM valuation, then depending on market conditions and use cases there will be an accumulation period before the actual flippening happens, it would be extremely profitable for everyone if it happens ATOM holders would get an hedge over their chain failing cause of toxicity

>> No.55187228

>>55187205
blow me, everyone is going ibc. even avax. tell your lawyers who are majority stake holders to tongue an anus.

>> No.55187235

>>55187217
AVAX and LINK is the make it portfolio.
Holding cosmos just makes you look like a retarded nigger that trusts a bunch of Jeets.

>> No.55187242

>>55187205
>>55187235
look dude move past your coin for a sec here, its not about converting us to avax its about ruining a jeet controlled chain, if you hate the jeet you should support this fork

>> No.55187244

>>55187228
>everyone is going ibc
nobody is, everyone that matters is going to Avalanche.
Cosmos was always dead on arrival, imagine defending some stuttering scamming jeet lmao.

>> No.55187245

>>55187208
secret network got jewed by their jew tor fuck. sgx got cracked and tee's suck balls. no real privacy in the cosmos yet.

>> No.55187249

>>55187187
no idea no details put out yet, ive seen this shilled on TG for the first time today will post again when more details come out

>> No.55187254

>>55187244
lmao every chain is linking to ibc including avax. who the fuck wants to connect to your subnuts.

>> No.55187265

>>55187242
>its not about converting us to avax
and you are right, Avalanche is getting mass adoption even without you, other cosmos fags and even without me.
I'm simply pointing out the Facts that Avalanche has already won while the competition is eating itself.
Avalanche is like Chainlink, there is really no true competition that can compete with it.
everyone is just lightyears behind.
>if you hate the jeet you should support this fork
yea probably

>> No.55187280

>>55187254
>who the fuck wants to connect to your subnuts.
everyone, all Subnets can easily communicate with any other Subnet on Avalanche with Sub Second finality which brings the costs for bootstrapping chainlink oracles down by a lot. basically any data will be exported to other subnets through dedicated chainlink Subnets.
and really absolutely everyone worth a shit will run their own Subnets.
there is currently more than 1700+ in development right now.

Meanwhile Jeetmos is still fighting over really basic stuff, founders vs holders LOL. ngmi.

>> No.55187306

>>55187280
theres no point in fighting over control of avax. it was sold out long before you had a full time job shilling your gay chain and its weak tech. literally everyone wants a piece of ibc/cosmos tech. who isnt connecting to ibc?

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>>55187280
cosmos made pos viable in the first place, its literally the root from which all pos and dpos networks come.
cosmos sdk is the easiest toolkit for developer integration, it has the highest amount of developers and products being built upon, also its the only ecosystem that never truly had a major run like sol avax etc...
we just need to get rid of bad governance and the whole ecosystem will completely absorb all of crypto, projects like dydx and zcash should be proud about their cosmos chain

>> No.55187355

>>55187306
>theres no point in fighting over control of avax.
Avalanche is decentralized, Poosmos is not.
>literally everyone wants a piece of ibc/cosmos tech
nobody wants it and its stagnating.
thats why people want to fork it, its trash.

>>55187327
>cosmos made pos viable in the first place
the only network where Proof of Stake actually works is Avalanche and only thanks to the leaderless Avalanche consensus which is a bigger breakthrough than anything Poosmos has ever achieved.
>cosmos sdk is the easiest toolkit for developer integration
Avalanche is easier especially now thanks to Ava Cloud.
>it has the highest amount of developers and products being built upon
Pretty sure thats Avalanche and not Poosmos.
>its the only ecosystem that never truly had a major run
because its actual shit.
>we just need to get rid of bad governance
this wont happen and the fork wont see any adoption either.

sorry man but you gotta accept that Avalanche is superior or croak in poverty. your choice friend.

>> No.55187357

>>55187327
zcash can suck a big dick. maybe their privacy will get better but i doubt it. theres a few privacy projects in the works but they all seem to be cucked privacy. monero + ibc is the only real way. wrapped xmr coming in and out on a trustless, permissionless, censorship resistant bridge! based af. the revenue we could generate.

>> No.55187377

>>55187357
>zcash can suck a big dick.
There is a Zcash fork in the works for Avalanche too.
It will take the Zion out of Zcash.

>> No.55187385

>>55187357
well i agree zcash privacy is pretty much not there, but its still a chain with a relatively big valuation and old brand and they are porting to cosmos.
anyway i agree with your point having a working bridge for utxo chains would make the fork much more useful and profitable

>> No.55187402

>>55187385
reach out to the forkers. tell them xmr bridge will fund the community in ways they havent dreamed of. a community pool growing to infinity because of all the fees we'd take bridging xmr over and or wrapping xmr over.

>> No.55187409

>>55187402
sure ill tell them

>> No.55187497

>>55187355
Avax chart looks terrible, cosmos chart is one of the few that still looks good, if this fork releases at the right time it will print

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the cartel has their own media arm. shills like cryptocito, frens validator and a few others promoting their grift.

>> No.55188892

>>55182473
Who's developing this OP?

>> No.55189514

>>55187306
Your gay. There is only one and true dpos chain

>> No.55190325

>>55182473
Do I buy 6k worth of Atom for a chance at the airdrop?

>> No.55190854

>>55190325
yeah, then when united comes out dump all the ATOM and buy the fork

>> No.55191047

>>55182473
Good
Jae Kwon
Zaki
Jack
And gadikin are all psychopaths

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looks like the cartel is feeling called out already, this fork main goal is to move past all founders included jae tho, no gods no masters

both jae and zaki are the problem, they run a controlled opposition dialectic

“We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We believe
in rough consensus and running code.”
—David Clark, Internet Pioneer

>> No.55191052

Very nice anons. This is long overdue. Heil United.

>> No.55191061

Dump the ATOM, buy the fork. Has a nice ring to it.

>> No.55191959

>>55191050
damn this guy is retarded
"hitler isn't cool mkaay guys"
all sjw people always try to funnel discourse to nazism and hitler to create the perception in npcs that if you disagree with them you are a genocidal maniac.
yet they always fail to address the actual arguments, makes me think this fork is def needed

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NO GODS. NO MASTERS.
WE ARE THE DAWN OF A NEW ERA. WE WILL HONOR THE OLD WAYS AS WE PAVE WAY FOR A BRIGHTER FUTURE. DECENTRALIZATION, TRUSTLESSNESS, PERMISSIONLESSNESS, IMMUTABILITY, CENSORSHIP RESISTANCE, PRIVACY AND ANONYMITY. THESE TENANTS WILL BE OUR SWORD AND SHIELD. WE WILL BRIDGE TO THE UNBRIDGEABLE, FORGE ALLIANCES AGAINST THE PARASITES.

HEIL UNITED.

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Hitler is cool Jacob

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At the same time who want to invest in an ecosystem when picrel is one of its main influencer?

>> No.55192513

>>55192430
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6854z1
https://english.cambodiadaily.com/brief/us-officials-helps-man-arrested-for-truck-theft-130968/

The guy was arrested and probably became an informant for the us gov, after this they own him 100%, there is no way he got away with this without cutting a deal behind the scenes,, Cambodia usually has very deep punishments for such crimes with long jail sentences, but hey at least he was much skinnier in this bid.
He is now cosmos handler for the us gov.

>> No.55192619

Death to the atom cartel. What are we calling the new coin? How about $cosmos

>> No.55193617

>>55192513
Damn get drunk/high become a glowie what a way to go

>> No.55194213

>>55182473
Jae Kwon and zaki hydra must be defeated.

They use bi partisan grifting to take advantage of everyone.

Good cop bad cop

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>>55192430
Lol imagine trusting billions in possible capital to a fat man who does not have the discipline to take care of his own personal health.

Where is the fiduciary responsibility? No health from himself, no safe code, no safe capital.

>> No.55194347

>>55186666
satan

>> No.55194385

>>55182473
what does this mean for the 250 atom i'm staking? already got massively rekt by UST/LUNA not sure i can handle another loss bros

>> No.55194456

>>55194385
You should get air dropped forked tokens if all goes ahead. Up to you if you want to keep your 250 on OG chain

>> No.55194562

>>55194456
thanks, its been one of my biggest gains in crypto even with the LUNA debacle tho i lost like 10k there; so trying not to fuck this up kek.

>> No.55194573

SEC saying ATOM is a security, the fork will not be a security cause it will be airdropped and wasnt part of the 2017 ico
feeling lucky bros, the fork is the only path forward

>> No.55194882

>>55192224
Seethe. Cosmos united is not jae Kwon.

Post your cringe with Kwon on GitHub.

>> No.55195314

>>55194573
Damn the fork was revealed at the perfect time now the hub can survive in a post ATOM world

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>>55187357
Btc bridge than
Grin
Than XMR

If you know you know.

>> No.55195339

I don't know how to feel about this shit

>> No.55195443

>>55195339
The first real dpos network. Layer one, that is distributed to communities and not front run by venture capital.

>> No.55195460 [DELETED] 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tslNO4-YfE

>> No.55195492

>>55182473
This is pointless. Every Cosmos chain is a Cosmos fork.
It doesn't work like Ethereum, every app its own chain.
There is no point to ATOM which is why the growth on the rest of the ecosystem barely translated into higher ATOM prices.

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>>55192430
this fat ass glows as well. jesusit training these nuts. i think rebecca was his handler at 1 point.
https://twitter.com/beccaliao shes handling saga now.
she glows bright as well.

jack simp likes to associate with satanic imagery as well. bad kids deez nuts 2. these kinds of folks always like to rub shit in folks faces. jack looks forward to whitelist and black list services.

>> No.55195798

>>55195492
its a fork of the community brand and hub itself, its not just a fork of the cosmos SDK its a fork of ATOM

>> No.55196192

Thank god I sold my ATOM stack weeks ago.
Still hope the project amounts to something...

>> No.55196838

>>55195559
They are all there to create the most dystopic chain in crypto

>> No.55197716

>>55194573
Lol the fork will cause gensler will crack down on atom the irony, cosmos cartel will be furious, guess they wanted to substitute atom with one of their shitty projects like saga

>> No.55198508

>>55197716
check your fucking grammar you retard, gensler put zaki and friends there on purpose rebecca liao (zaki handler) went to the same school as sam bankman dad, they are all democrats plants

>> No.55198682

>>55198508
this is all cope buy LINK and stop masturbating over this looser chain

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>>55182473
The rise of the 4th Reich is inevitable. Day of the rope draws closer, jew.

>> No.55199400

>>55199383
close the airports and kill all the jews they can not escape without planes

>> No.55199971

>>55199383
>>55199383
Hi Ethan

Salting the well are we?

>> No.55200308

>>55199971
They are scared the sec lawsuit plus the fork will ruin their treasury, so Hitler posting is the best they come up with

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>>55200308
Hahaha they are embezzling money from IFC foundation.

Delegated proof of stake run by neo liberal effective aluturism is dead.

Sam bankmanfrauds
The Ethan baichmans
The jeets of Mumbai.

Boycott target is number one song in the west right now. And you have zaki tweeting " we need more transwoman in Blockchain"

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Weeee neeeees more transwoman in Blockchain.

Vote for zaki and Ethan's proposal number 555 to donate 10 percent of the community Treasury to transwoman opaque non profit that will clean up earth quakes in turkey.

>> No.55200682 [DELETED] 

>>55192430
Gross. No aesthetic nature. Path of ugly. No wonder why Justin Sun, the rising son slays all these uggos.

>> No.55200697

AllInBits really hired all these people to spam 4chan thinking anybody here has any influence on the cosmos ecosystem. How's that lawsuit going Jae?

>> No.55201037

>>55200697
were sick of the back and forth between aib and icf. aib is a private company. they can do whatever they want and have no obligations to anyone. icf's entire existence is to fund the hub/cosmos, they arent. they're stealing the $$$ from both the org and community pool's, along with the validator cartel.

>> No.55201288

>>55201037
AIB's founder Jae has 10% of the atom supply and is selling it to fund frivolous lawsuits and to pay people to fork cosmoshub and attack cosmos in anyway possible (also tried vampire attacking the hub by airdropping his new coin to people who voted certain ways). His goal is to burn the hub to the ground and it has been for years now because he got pushed out of the inner circle for being a literal schizo nazi.

Now to be fair Jae is a genius, he pretty much invented Tendermint, but he is a nutcase and nobody wants to work with him. So he's on a multi year tantrum trying to break everything in retaliation.

Jack Z and Jacob G are 100% huge pieces of shit leeches wont argue against anyone there, they really do have way too much sway and have never actually contribute any value to the ecosystem (quite the opposite with Jack, his crew just steals shit- see recent drama with Stars). Jalena is another questionable one. She was literally the one to announce the USDC-CosmosHub deal at cosmosverse last year and then this year she split away from Informal/Ethan and her and Jack Faggotampolin and their little cartel decided to run off and make their own chain for it instead. It has been a total disaster lol because none of them actually know how to build anything. She didnt even find a fucking CTO before running off and announcing the new deal. I should have sold when that shit came to light.

There are four groups here: AIB and Jae, the grifter cartel (Jack, Jacob, Jalena), and then Zaki and Ethan and Sunny who aren't perfect but actually make working stuff and also aren't literal schizo nazis, and finally the ICF which at the top level is absolute trash and probably full of fraud like you say (Swiss org, no real suprise) while also having a lot of good engineers in the trenches working hard and being underappreciated/underpaid and who have no control over the money (e.g. Marko, Bez).

>> No.55201331

>>55182545
Nobody cares about 300 mil marketcap dydx lol this is the first time I've heard anything about them in forever. Its kind of ironic them making this statement about not wanting to associate with cosmos has put them in the spotlight because of how it associated them with cosmos.

>> No.55201350

>>55182473
Did anybody actually click the link and read the site? Kek. They are going to have an even bigger treasurey.

I also love this part "governance means liability, which will eventually lead to lawsuits based on governance choices" thats how you know Jae is behind it, he is the only one (frivolously) suing people over governance action. Light the fire so you can put it out!


Its also not a fork of cosmoshub. It doesnt fork from a shared chain state. Its just an entirely new chain that tries to build off of (steal) the cosmos motif.

>> No.55201395

>>55201288
with jews you loose. ethan and zaki cant build shit. zaki is a grifter using daddys $$ to find a somewhere he could fit in and grift. rebecca handles him. all of these guys are like the democrats, the are useless and never take noresponsibility.
i bet if we made a list of all the jews in crypto that have stolen and grifted, the list would be long af. pajeets just bend over for jews. remember the tor jew from secret network lol. how much did he make off with?

Celsius jew
voyager jew
that berg from mango markets.
sbf
mt. gox jew
ethan buccfuck from icf
gary gensler jew,
caorline jew
and most vc's are jews

lets not get started in traditional finance, or politics or media or or or or.....

>> No.55201445

>>55201350
Thank you.
This ^

This thread is so retarded. The icing on the kek-cake is the Avax shill aggressively trying to pump his bags.

>> No.55201945

>>55182473
Retard

>> No.55202460

>>55201288
>to fund frivolous lawsuits

kek.
Suing a psychotic bipolar who defames your company on a daily basis is a frivolous lawsuit? He's most likely gonna win it.

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>>55187327
>truly had a major run like sol avax etc...
why do you think that is? the inflation rate? the lack of developer unity?
Forking could be really interesting now that SEC says cosmos is a security, but I still don't understand why you wouldn't just move over to avax which has a better consensus method and development anyway

>> No.55202986

>>55201288
jae can fuck himself he is part of the problem too
>>55201350
just cause jae is the first doesnt mean he will be the last, removing the ability to vote from validators existing in the physical world is the smartest choice if you wanna keep censorship resistance, will those validators remain neutral if the government compels them to vote to pass a specific governance proposal?
validators can be forced to do stuff, token holders cant.

>governance means liability
there is no info on the treasury yet, so you have no idea what you are talking about, wait for info to be disclosed by the team, but i guess you dont care you are just here to cover up for the cartel.

>Its also not a fork of cosmoshub
its definitely a fork of the hub no matter how much you bitch and complain
>>55201331
you mean nobody cares about the decentralized exchange with the highest trading volume and amount of users, the most succesfull app on eth?
you are just a cartel shill, embarassing
>>55202778
lack of value capture mechanism, and no usecase for the token, forking ATOM and flipping its mcap will be way more profitable then anything you can do on avax

>> No.55203779

>>55202986
validators are the weakest link, after the sec is done with centralized exchanges thats who they are going after next, reducing liability before the enforcement action comes is the only way to compartmentalize the risk

>> No.55204472

>>55202460
Should keep this bs lawsuit drama out of the fork, that's exactly why the fork is happening, getting rid of founders is the goal

>> No.55204567

>>55182473
haircomb

>> No.55205795

>>55203779
i can see it already happening, gensler going door to door to the top 15 cosmos validators and compelling them to pass a proposal that forces kyc to move funds on the cosmos hub

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Hitler is cool

>> No.55207440

>>55206769
hi jacob, keep poisoning the well

>> No.55208605

what will be the staking APY?

>> No.55209019
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New Era of the Cosmos

>> No.55209870

>>55206769
>>55209019
Lol do they pay you to post this out of context cringe?

>> No.55210545

>>55208605
No info yet, the website is the only public resource

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with secret voting, wouldnt that have its own issues? mutiple wallets set up to sway votes behind a veil? maybe weighted voting can be used? quadratic voting? something that can help things balance? zk tech for privacy?

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>>55187355
>thats why people want to fork it, its trash.
errrrr

>> No.55212418

>>55182587
sounds like cosmos got bigger than they expected it to initially

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what Cosmos coin to buy for financial independance without getting cucked by the devs?

I kinda like Akash

>> No.55213422

>>55212741
The ones that don't brag about being a Cosmos chain and that have minimal links with Zaki, Jack or Jacob.
Kujira
Injective
Sei
Kava

>> No.55213470

>>55212741
I am staking ATOM which gets me good passive income, should be worried now?
But I have other investments like UTK which also fetches me good passive income.

>> No.55213475

>>55212741
Dude that's absolutely terrible upscaling.

It failed miserably and added detail where it wasn't needed. (Cats don't have hair on their ears like that LOL)
AND look at how it fucked the eyes up.
Stop wasting your money on AI coins they are pointlessly tied to crypto.

>> No.55213487

>>55212741
kek AI is the biggest crock of shit since the dotcom bubble

>> No.55213535

>>55213487
AI has a long way to go, with time it will be good but not atm. For now the adoption of crypto payments is increasing, this is mainstream adoption and we need to focus on that.

>> No.55213691

>>55200697
Jae is a faggot and cosmos united fork made him gain 50 pounds.

Fat boy

Zaki, jack, and jae, will all neck after BITs takes their kingdom.

>> No.55213757

>>55213535
I don't agree with the guy above you about AI being a crock of shit.
I'd like to clarify as the post above him that AI as these tokens are attaching themselves has no use case.

It's an attempt at mimicking a security and just a scam. "L-LOOK AT OUR AI T-TECH!"

Meanwhile you can use stable diffusion any time you want and accomplish better results, it's open source, still being worked on by community, and doesn't need crypto attached to it.

AI in crypto will matter if a company invents an AI that somehow makes a Blockchain more efficient or something of that sort.
All these AI coins are just wannabe stable diffusions.

>> No.55213763

>>55182473
Am I going to get fucked up in here?

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>>55187082
Lol Ethan's new nick name should be
Palestine apartheid.

Palestine apartheid steps into the ring to face 'can't stop Assad'

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>>55209019
>>55206769
Palestine apartheid and pedophile Jacob who slays underage south east asian cunny are in here salting the well.
(((All ideas I don't like are Hitler)))
It's not 2008, such tactics will not work.

Ideas exist, outside of your neoliberal control of the Overton memesphere.

>> No.55214053

>>55213470
You will get BITS airdropped to you so no you shouldn't be worried, its literally free money

>> No.55214158

>>55182559
Yea, the dilution threat also made the supply mechanics temporal instead of eternal. Now that supply mechanics/ issuance are temporal and can be changed at a whim via a governance hostile take over you get a few issues.

>Large investors fear their investment can be destroyed via unpredictable issuance/inflation.
<It makes the system appear centralized and not decentralized. The issuance is controlled by a super majority which votes via LLP style governance.
<The above issue, makes the asset clearly appear as a security. A centralized board can vote to split/reverse split the token issuance. atom 2.0 was bad strategy overall. They poked the SEC bear, destoryed realtionships with people who supported the ecosystem pre ICO and post, and created massive infighting among different developer labs.

>> No.55214182

>>55182473
See, this is why small POS coins don't work. Nobody has any incentive to look out for the integrity of the network, thus these political games get played. Factions form and they are fought, and the network suffers.

>> No.55215348

>>55214158
ATOM was always to be declared a security cause of the ICO sale, this fork is the only way to keep the network alive, hopefully also the genesis team wallets get removed so that there is even less reasons to ever call it a security

>> No.55215771

>>55182545
Lmao that dude is describing Chainlink's CCIP. Idiot

>> No.55216822

>>55214182
Having validators be middleman's really doesn't help, ATOM is one of the biggest pos network there is no reason why it should be in this terrible state.
Get rid of the jeets and the validator gatekeeper's such gadikian and ATOM would have been one of the top performing networks.
All pos chains come from tendermint it actually works

>> No.55217962

>>55214158
Yeah till cosmos is in the hands of AIB ICF jae kwon ethan and zaki, there will never be any change there is no incentive to do so.
The main focus of the work in my opinion needs to be private property guarantees, nothing more the chain need to remain minimal and all features should be added as sidechains, this minimizes risk and strengthen the argument of the chain absolutely not being a security.

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Hitler is cool

>> No.55218246

>>55218057
Lol janitors post for free. Jacob is a Jannie, defending his pile of shit called cosmos with memes that seek to taint. To bad only jae Kwon is stupid enough to enage with tar babies.

The proposals which shut down atom 2.0 clearly foreshadowed Gary genslers and the SEC recent conviction. Atom 2.0 and it's threat to dilliute stake holders and issuance proved defacto atom is a security. All Jacob, zaki, jae, Ethan, and Jack can do is post cringe.

Cosmos united will rebirth delegated proof of stake. Remove venture capital cartels and destructive devs. They are plainly uncompetitive now, and illegal. Post your cringe. You are uncompetive, and family offices will derisk by dumping atom and buying $BITs to hedge. Long live Cosmos United

>> No.55219096

>>55218246
Seems like we earned a bunch of resident hitler posters, guess they think everybody is stupid, as if random people posting on 4chan some hitler memes creates guilt by association.

ATOM has been clearly internally sabotaged by its founders, ZAKI saying shit like ATOM to 1000$ LFG was a clear attempt at that.
Look at this he didn't even try:
https://hackmd.io/@zmanian/HkXL3g6I2
He posted 4 paragraphs of cope trying to show he cares about ATOM not being a security while he was clearly put there by his handlers (rebecca liao etc...) to make sure ATOM becomes a security, that post is pathetic doublefaced COPE.

All these fags included jacob the truckman will be forced to dump their ATOMs for BITS, bits will be fairly launched and will have no ties with founders and aib/icf, rebirth is bullish, their hitler posting will not stop the fork it just shows how desperate they are.

>> No.55220043

>>55219096
That article is retarded "we could have fork ATOM but we didn't so its not a security"

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Hitler is cool
Hitler was right

>> No.55222157

>>55219096
Its just one sad dude, probably jae I'm sure he wanted to do the fork first and he is mad he got frontrun

>> No.55222989

>>55220043
you can be sure now zaki is thinking why didn't i do it first