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55115870 No.55115870 [Reply] [Original]

Is how you ACTUALLY stop inflation

>> No.55115891

We solved it reddit!

>> No.55115919

>>55115870
Orbanbros, we did it!

>> No.55115925

>>55115870
why dont they just set the price of everything to 0 euros? and forbid girls to wear clothes.

>> No.55115967

>>55115870
Studies show price controls generally raise prices
Biz is too black pilled to not understand the scam that price controls are
And I’m for government intervention in some areas but it almost always ends up screwing customers in the end
The solution is increasing supply, not capping price
Food prices are skyrocketing because bill gates and others rothschild agents are choking out supply chains and small farmers

>> No.55116543

I wish the US would do this too
why do we have to have the shit healthcare, shit education, shit public transport and sky high food inflation while europe manages to solve all of these?
It's fucking unfair

>> No.55116576

Anyone care to post examples of price controls working and not just exacerbating shortages?

>> No.55116579

>>55115925
Why stop there? Why not go below 0 Euros?

>> No.55116645
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>>55116576
There really are none. The legitimate business will go bankrupt, and you'll end up with vegetables made out of plastic, like the Chinese, and then they'll wonder why the fuck people are dropping dead for no apparent reason.
I can't wait to move to south east asia and be away from the blast radius of this retarded, nigger filled, kike worshipping shit nuke.

>> No.55116660

>>55115967
>Biz is too black pilled to not understand the scam that price controls are
Really?
Every anon i've spoke to about it has agreed it's bad.
Must be missing threads.

>> No.55116669
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55116669

Are you not getting whats going on yet lads? You might want to start doing what they are doing.

>> No.55116681

>>55115870
>commies doing commie shit
I will enjoy watching Europoors starve.

>> No.55116702

Literal price caps or subsidies like on energy prices in Germany? Very different dynamics.

>> No.55116969

>>55116543
>shit healthcare
I have insurance through work and my current deductable is $3,200. Every time I go to the doctor I have to pay around $200 out of pocket. I would have to go to the doctor 16 times in 1 year, more than once a month, to ever meet the deductable.

>> No.55117003

>>55115870
They just won't sell anything if they can't make a profit.
Prepare for empty shelves and actual fucking starvation.

>> No.55117200

>>55116576
Vancouver housing. They control rents and they just keep building

>> No.55117319

>>55115870
Leads to shortages, doesn’t work, already tried.

>> No.55117351

>>55116669
>goldbugs will fall for this for the 10000th time

>> No.55117997

>>55116576
A very limited example would be that quite a few countries have fixed prices on medicines, and not had shortages. It should be noted though that the fixed price in those cases is still well above the marginal cost of producing existing medicines, and government funds/large market that does not price fix (USA) have provided drug companies with the R&D to produce new kinds of drugs.

Price fixing of bulk commodities on the other hand pretty much always leads to shortages, especially if nothing is done about the underlying causes of the inflation driving prices up, and the cost to produce/import said commodities rises above the fixed price.

>> No.55118008

>>55117997
>A very limited example would be that quite a few countries have fixed prices on medicines, and not had shortages.
It should be noted that the public only takes subsidized medicine if they need it (for the most part) whereas consumables are used by everyone.

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>>55116669
>gee better do what the Mainstream corporate media tells me to it's totally not a ploy by banisters funding said media to manipulate markets
it's time to become a mentally ill man with a shotgun

>> No.55118138

>>55115870
they should ban plastic drinking straws too

>> No.55118241

>>55115925
truly based.

>> No.55118322

>>55115967
>The solution is increasing supply, not capping price

>food plants are exploding and trains derailing every other day in brandon's america

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>>55115870
>>55116576
>>55117997
Isn't this situation different in that prices aren't rising due to increases in cost, but arbitrarily being raised by companies in a mass co-ordinated price-gouging? The cost of producing the food has only gone up around 10%, whilst prices have risen over 100% in many cases. Price fixing only causes problems if you prevent the companies from making profit, not simply limit their profit from unfathomable amounts of money down to mere obscene levels of wealth.

>> No.55118857

>>55116645
>south east asia
anon, EU is a commie shitshow, but SEA is a shithole (and they already have plenty of plastic rice, hmmm namit)

>> No.55118900

>>55118764
You first have to prove in a complex economic system with multiple factors influencing prices that said actors are raising costs on purpose in a coordinated effort.

That would be the biggest cartel the world has ever seen communicating telepathically.

>> No.55118932

>>55118764
lmao retard

>> No.55118939

>>55118900
Well can't you just look at quarterly profits? Oh wait they are up to record levels for every major supermarket corporation. Farmers aren't making anymore money than they were before and most are needing gov bailouts. Lol gotta love capitalism

>> No.55118943

>>55115870
OMG DO I LOVE COMMUNISM NOW TELL ME HOW THE CHONKS DO IT

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>>55118939
Omg turns out that if you do quantitative easing people spend more money even on useless shit, fucking capatalism failed bro.

>> No.55119016

>>55115870
Price controls are a way to devalue the available products to the price set by the regulator. Why? It always ends up that way. Why? Because it leads to the products that cannot make a profit at or below that set price to be unprofitable and thus get wiped off the market.

>> No.55119062

>>55115870
To fight inflation, at some point somebody has to lower their price first so everyone downstream from them can lower theirs.
But when nobody along the production/transportation chain wants to (or is able to) be the first to lower their price, inflation remains sticky, and it takes a major reset to correct the situation.
I'm staunchly anti-socialism and anti-communism, but honestly in this case, this type of government intervention makes a lot of sense.

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>>55116576
The best socialist country on earth

>> No.55119091

>>55115870
Fake news tier

>> No.55119172

>>55119062
There's nothing sticky about inflation, if you find a better way to produce something you want to lower your prices and steal customers from other producers.

When prices are high, they are because it's materially impossible to do that.

>> No.55119219

>>55119172
>When prices are high, they are because it's materially impossible to do that.
Usually, in normal market economies. But groceries certainly don't fall into the realm of monopoly or cultist brand loyalty.

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>>55115870
are you fucking retarded? this didnt work last time we did it, europe is fucked.

>> No.55119253

>>55118900
Canadian companies were ordered by courts to pay everyone who wanted it like 20 dollars because they had agreed to gauge people on bread for like 2 decades.

>> No.55119296

>>55119253
So you're telling me that in 20 years no producer came out, bought everything they need to make bread and sell it cheaper than these companies.
Chances are they are the only one allowed to make bread and sell legally.

>> No.55119342

>>55119296
Android is a cheaper and better alternative to iPhone, yet people still buy iPhones, and Apple is very profitable
Your assumption is that consumers are always 100% of the time behaving rationally, towards their best interests while that is far from the truth

>> No.55119358

>>55119172
There's a lot of monopolization and trade agreements in place, the market is highly centralized in key areas.
People can't really vote with their wallets when there are no real alternatives.

>> No.55119372

>>55119342
But of course, let's compare a phones with bread.

But even there the global market share is 70% in favor of android devices.

>> No.55119553

>>55118857
SEA has more than enough swamp to make actual rice

>> No.55119837

>>55115967

Why not just set the controlled price lower than the current price of goods forcing a price drop? And if companies complain then you either tell them to comply and compete in the market or pack their shit and go out of business? Companies stop producing out of spite? Let them go out of business as their assets will be worthless and their competitors willing to play ball will take market share. Or the state can take over production

The greedy need to learn their greed is only being tolerated because the system allows it. One change is all it takes

>> No.55119844

>>55115870
It's also how you get shortages. It's not, per se, bad to remove price as a control mechanism, but you have to be aware that if you do, you're also abolishing market mechanics, specifically the incentive to produce the good.
You can cap anything at any price, but you will then get shortages, empty shelves, and/or a black market emerging.

>> No.55119850

>>55115967
>The solution is increasing supply, not capping price
That's rather difficult to do given the agricultural situation (fertilizer, shipping, soil degradation, climate dysregulation). Raising the supply is the solution to every shortage, yet we don't have infinite supply of anything.

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>>55118764
>Mass co-ordinated prive-gouging

>> No.55119855

>why don't we just not let the price go up????

>> No.55119861

>>55118764
>The cost of producing the food has only gone up around 10%, whilst prices have risen over 100% in many cases.
Other than that 10%-figure being unsupported, the demand for food is inelastic. If people need to eat and there's not enough food, the price can go up 500% and 1000% too. The same thing happened with oil in 2007, when production only dipped a few percent below demand, causing the price to go parabolic. It's not that the entire volume of available oil was traded at the top, only a few percent were (bought by the people who got caught out), but those few percent got bought at any price.

>> No.55120069

>>55115919
Underrated post
EU now plagiarizing hungary’s monetary policy, prepare to short the EUR

>> No.55120996

>>55115870
>Make farming illegal
>Print endless money(inflation)
They do want you to die, it is a death cult.

>> No.55121010

>>55120069
>be worried about food shortages
>plagiarize food policies from a country named hungary
honk honk

>> No.55121695

>>55119855
>dude you can't just inflation because you just can't ok!?!

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>>55119850
There is an infinite supply of USD in the federal reserve.

>> No.55122789

>>55115870
Award these fine academics the Zimbabwean prize in economics.

>> No.55122912

>>55115925
The government should just take over the farms honestly. And energy sector and housing too. The could just run these sectors and give them away free then core inflation is always zero. And by government, I mean global government not just state or regional.

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>>55122781

>> No.55123166

>>55115967
biz is turning more into reddit every day