/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.55093064]

>Reddit believes Hedera will moon soon once regulations kick in
Why are there never any serious HBAR discussions on /biz/?

[Anonymous No.55093079]

>>55093064
Reddit was bullish on cardano before it 300x so they old be correct with Hbar. Reddit has much better track record the shithole that is biz

[Anonymous No.55093087]

>>55093079
This. Plebbit hands down destroys biz. Biz is full of seething jeets and rugs. Old biz knows it’s fucking btc and Hbar, eth is done. But seriously, you have to go back

[Anonymous No.55093120]

Cardano does 1,000,000 tps with Hydra

[Anonymous No.55093299]

hBartards are more insufferable than even the dumbest of nft fags and hexicans.
Stop doing benzos and you'll see how fucking trash hbar is.

[Anonymous No.55093309]

>>55093064
>HBAR
lol, be serious anon

[Anonymous No.55093755]

>>55093064
I believed that as well and then I saw solana and fantom pump. the tech makes sense it's just not the world we live in unfortunately. better to put money wherever the dumb money goes instead

[Anonymous No.55093768]

>>55093064
>Hello future
Sick of reading this shit over and over again.
>942 TPS
Given HBAR's low usage: who is making these transactions and why?

[Anonymous No.55093779]

>>55093064
>inflate txn numbers
>hurr durr this is the best blockchain that everyone will use for sure
The state of hbaggies.

[Anonymous No.55094402]

>>55093768
Hello Future

[Anonymous No.55094408]

>>55093768
>Given HBAR's low usage: who is making these transactions and why?
Newfag

[Anonymous No.55094656]

>>55093768
atma.io is the only usecase right now, its an item tracker. products are supposed to be scanned and track via hedera like a mailman will scan his deliveries type of thing. so for somereason all the hedera use cases rely on an honor system where no one will ever lie about the real life physical items that get tokenized. one use case they keep going on about is allowing farmers to plant flowers and then sell the token that represents the flowers, but no one is going to check if the flowers were actually planted

[Anonymous No.55094744]

>>55094656
So the kind of thing that could easily be faked to inflate TPS numbers?
Thank you for the reply, very revelaing.

[Anonymous No.55094921]

>>55094744
Even of the flower in the other anons example wasn't planted the TPS would still be real you retarded nigger

[Anonymous No.55094983]

>>55094921
that guy was just joking.
>>55094656 is the humorous legit one though that, that he thinks there's something about hedera that requires 'more trust' then other cryptocurrencies.
>somebody needs to check to make sure the trees are planted!
if they sell a token to offset carbon emissions and don't plant the trees, that's fraud, and punishable under the law.

[Anonymous No.55095243]

>>55094983
>that's fraud, and punishable under the law.
so hedera is only viable in small high trust majority white communities?

[Anonymous No.55095252]

>>55094921
Yes, but the usage would be fake.

[Anonymous No.55095481]

>>55095243
we've had this conversation before.
I'm still kind of at a loss, because I have no idea what you would expect.
it's like a contrived and confused version of the oracle problem.
I guess it's a good thing, because that means people who unironically fud HBAG, only can apply general criticisms of cryptocurrencies to hedera.
basically we've addressed all the legit specific to criticisms.

[Anonymous No.55095563]

>>55094656

You could put a barcode on some physical items and allow audits with a scanner. That's how it's done right now, except with a GUID (id) instead of a token.

[Anonymous No.55095772]

Hahahahahahahahaha hfart

[Anonymous No.55095850]

It is kind of demotivating to support Hbar and come to biz. I always come here in hopes of seeing interesting conversations about the best token, but :
-Nothing ever happens
-When it does happen, it's huge, would make the competitors cream their pants but it's always downplayed
-The ones that want to think and talk about the subject leave only 1 post, the haters come back for 6, 7 or 8 ptbid
-No good info here, all I've learned on Hbar I learned on twitter or reddit, only reactions, most of the time trollings

But yeah, I still come back for the gold nugget I get once in a while.

I miss the monthly talks when Leemon, Zenobia and Mance answered our questions btw, it was always a "hype" moment, like when the "step function" was announced I think. What happened to that ?

[Anonymous No.55095931]

>>55095481
>basically we've addressed all the legit specific to criticisms
in other words, hbar doesn't solve any crypto problems but still manages to add centralization

[Anonymous No.55096199]

>>55095931
ha. yea centralization. but it's centralized!
why are my cabal globohomo companies working together and it's centralizing my proof of shit cryptocurrency!
no, it's permissioned!
it's centralized and permissioned!
which I get that's the new *complaint*.
but they're set to go permissionless and community nodes in Q3.
so it's like, yeaaa. even that fud is dead.

[Anonymous No.55096593]

>>55095772
>3 bags included
Lel

[Anonymous No.55096865]

>>55093064
Anyone who supports this shit is a bot.

[Anonymous No.55097858]

>>55094656
>>55094744
>>55094921
>>55094983
Why doesn’t HBAR make partnering companies implement their own hashgraph tracable barcodes? That seems like a simple fix to prove accountability on both sides: that the item exists and that the item exists on the hashgraph

[Anonymous No.55097888]

>>55097858
>Why doesn’t HBAR make partnering companies implement their own hashgraph tracable barcodes?
I don't assume HBAR has that power over the partnering companies. They probably mostly just treat it as a pilot project.

[Anonymous No.55097948]

Only way this thing moons is someone leverage shorts it or you all sell your bags. After you all sell we will count the limit ask order sold and pump it. But as long as you hold it, we will order count yall like card counters and hold this shit to the ground.

[Anonymous No.55097984]

>>55093064
>broooo muh tps!!!!
how do you retards still not understand. institutions will not use public chains. quorum, onyx, r3 corda, canton, fednow, they're literally building their own shit right in front of you and you don't see it.

[Anonymous No.55098736]

>>55097984
>institutions will not use public chains
Of course they will. Institutions by and large don't use their own cloud infrastructure they use azure, google, and amazon. Why would it be any different with dlt?

[Anonymous No.55098770]

>>55097984
>quote about tps
>random screeching about institutions
You could at least try connect the two points for the sake of making a point you blunt saw.

[Anonymous No.55098913]

>>55098770
how about read the fucking picture in the op you fucking illiterate retard

>>55098736
because public chains have public ledgers. because they would have to purchase tokens that are blatantly manipulated. because they can't modify the infrastructure to suit their own needs. because they don't need their shit to be decentralized. public chains are not aws. all the shit i listed is aws. comparing public chains to canton is like comparing 100 raspberry pis in my garage to aws.

[Anonymous No.55098925]

Kek huge unlock in a few days baggies looking for exit liquidity

[Anonymous No.55099215]

>>55098913
dude just listen to yourself.
why was defi invented?
so people who don't trust each other can trust and trade with each other.
yea, internally governments will run everything privately, but eventually you want to interact with broader external economies and a public ledger makes sure the trades happen on the up and up.
to your point about fed now, they work with metal blockchain, and metal blockchain just developed connection to hedera.
as you said
>they're literally building their own shit right in front of you and you don't see it.

[Anonymous No.55099720]

>>55093064
What regulations? The Senate and House aren't getting anything done until 2024 and beyond.

[Anonymous No.55100198]

>>55093064
Because it's just a shit coin

[Anonymous No.55100271]

>>55093064
Any serious discussion? that scam is getting shilled every 5 secs on this board

[Anonymous No.55100460]

Imagine having so many fucking whales that they’ve effortlessly pegged this shitcoin to 5 cents for 11 months and counting. This centralized trash is worth 2 cents at most

[Anonymous No.55100485]

>>55100198
This

There are just 3 worst ever scam shitcoins,

1 HBAR
2 ICP
3 LINK

All 3 are scams, all 3 will never pump, all 3 have army of butt hurt bag holders shilling them in hopes they will one day get a chance to break even on their heavy bags.

[Anonymous No.55100676]

>>55095850
I think the sentiment was a lot higher in the bull. /biz/ during the bear is mainly FUD for every coin. Bear markets are just huge periods of doubt for everyone I think. Still I agree there is rarely any type of actual discussion here with HBAR. Best source is twitter IMO. /biz/ for culture and confirmation, twitter for alpha.

[Anonymous No.55100715]

>>55093064
Imagine holding HBAR and they turn off the blockchain

[Anonymous No.55100960]

>>55093064
I have 50k hbars and 10k doges.

Should I do some risk mitigation by converting 20k hbars into 20k doges?

Doge will moon and the only condition it needs is a bull market.

Hedera can go up with a bull market, but it needs something special to moon. So I'm kind of wary.

I know it has done everything right, but history has told us that the shittier product/company often wins against the superior one (ie Eddison vs tesla).

[Anonymous No.55101807]

>>55100960
jokes aside, you wont find serious advice here...

but I would not risk my money with h-shit, whats the point, if bull market will pump everything, why just not have bag of something that has a bigger chance to pump more?
That just makes sense to me, something that always pumps and is well established, AAVE is kinda low now, fuck, even solana is on discount.
I would literally pick any random coin before risking HBAR scam, it is guaranteed to suck same as LINK did and will forever just rug.
There is literally almost zero chance, somebody will buy into that old obsolete crap, if somebody needs tech like that, they will make some new one, it is like buying some old obsolete broken beater car and hoping to make money on it.... but cars do rise in price with time, if they are not just junk... digital goods only loose value.

[Anonymous No.55102973]

>>55096865
based

[Anonymous No.55103362]

>>55093064
Shitty R*ddit coin