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[Anonymous No.54986766]

Stop masturbating

[Anonymous No.54986819]

>>54986766
done, what now?

[Anonymous No.54986827]

>>54986766
It's so.. hard.. though

[Anonymous No.54986831]

>>54986766
No

[Anonymous No.54987057]

>>54986766
no. just stop watching porn.

[Anonymous No.54987080]

No

[Anonymous No.54987150]

I'm just getting started

[Anonymous No.54987307]

No, fuck you

[Anonymous No.54987331]

I haven't came in 7 days.
I'm the cancer anon, figured might as well save my resources.
Actually have tons of energy despite my condition, helps I got two rounds of antibiotics because I was full of different infections.
Cancer ofc still there but feeling better.

[Anonymous No.54987336]

Honestly I do feel better when I stop jacking off everyday. A sense of willpower or something.

[Anonymous No.54987453]

>>54986766
Thanks anon

Porn is their way to enslave your mind, a freely distributed addictive vice to tame the masses

[Anonymous No.54987472]

>>54986766
On eight days of retaining right now

[Anonymous No.54987488]

>>54986766
how

[Anonymous No.54987502]

Your receptors fade as you get older. So why not enjoy every moment of it.

[Anonymous No.54987512]

after a week or so i start to lose my mind. nofap only works if you have some other option, which i don't

[Anonymous No.54987623]

What if no porn, only memories?

[Anonymous No.54987829]

>>54987512
You're supposed to not have lust so you can direct the energy towards something else. Of course your penis feels like its going to explode if your mind is focused on cumming.

[Anonymous No.54987855]

your dick won't work when you're 80 years old. Why not have fun while it does

[Anonymous No.54987865]

>>54987829
are you also supposed to also not get hungry and not get tired? supposed to not pee and just hold it in? getting horny is a bodily function

[Anonymous No.54987894]

>>54987865
>getting horny is a bodily function
Yes but it is nothing like eating or pissing. Spermatoegenesis takes upwards of 60 days to complete. What, do you really think early humans had access to sex all of the time too? No, they did not, and neither did soldiers in trench warfare, and etc. You won't explode if you don't give in to lust. Lust is mental.

[Anonymous No.54988044]

>>54987865
>getting horny is a bodily function
wrong, it's a matter of willpower and controlling your thoughts.

[Anonymous No.54988059]

>>54987472
22 days here

[Anonymous No.54988427]

Two weeks and two days plus.
A few years ago I somehow managed to attain a 5 month long streak and then squandered it on a whim.

[Anonymous No.54988505]

There's nothing wrong with masturbation, hard core porn is the problem

[Anonymous No.54988526]

>>54988505
Turn it around porns fine while you're having sex with someone.
It's masturbation that sucks

[Anonymous No.54988556]

>>54987623
>Memories
Imagination

[Anonymous No.54988586]

>>54987512
Thats the point. its how men always have been

We have masculine energy to do things, conquer, achieve, invent, fight.

When youre stuck without what you want, your natural manly drive will motivate you, give you the energy needed to succeed.

When you jack your cock all day, youre draining that energy and becoming complacent and satisfied. every day you drain the dick. drain your energy. Satisfy the need to reproduce .

(()) want you to drain the energy because you make better wagie cattle slaves.

When you stop , you have all this excess energy telling you that your life is unsatisfying and you need to direct it to make a change

>>54987453

[Anonymous No.54988602]

>>54987865
When youre hungry you go and find / hunt / create food

When youre tired you create a shelter to safely rest

When you're horny you WORK as a man to prove you are worthy and then are rewarded pussy

>horny so i turn on computer and jack it
is the same as
>im hungry so ill eat cheap junk food, argueably even worse

[Anonymous No.54988631]

>>54986766
I will not cum until $BITCOIN is at 10 billion market cap

[Anonymous No.54988661]

>>54988602
yeah, can't really argue with that. i guess i'm just trying to rationalize my addiction to myself.

really I have tried to quit porn and/or fapping before but the cravings are so strong it's hard to resist for long. it's like an addiction you're born with.

[Anonymous No.54988750]

>>54986766
You literally catched me right before I was going to start lol

[Anonymous No.54988786]

>>54988661
I get it anon

I have been addicted to porn since i was 12 and now im 30. Its hard but i opened my eyes and realized that sitting in a dark room jacking it to another man fucking the girl i want on a screen with my dick in my hand is not it

Youll feel pain at the start but over time youll feel much better. Youll feel like a real man

I still struggle with urges, porn is literally more addicting to me than cocaine.

The last time that i actually took initiative, worked for something, and got rewarded was when i stopped watching porn or jacking it for 8 months straight . Felt this amazing newfound energy and passion. Succeeded in everything i did and motivated. I cold approached a girl and my vibe was so good SHE actually asked to come over the next day to sex me.

Havent cold approached since then. Need to control my urges, porn fucks with your self image and confidence

[Anonymous No.54988937]

>>54986766
Already did. Here's the benefits that i found:

>Sex becomes amazing again for some, while for others, sex becomes better than porn for the first time. If you are familiar with the feeling of your chest pounding, heart racing, mouth watering, and your entire body heating up because you started typing in your favorite porn site. Then picture that happening just because a girl took off her shirt in front of you. That is how sex should be not porn.

>Self-Control (I like to see this one as a indirect benefit of NoFap). Going on a successful streak has a lot of major challenges along the way like intense cravings, flatline, or a void where porn used to be. By overcoming this, we are building discipline and actually strengthening the prefrontal cortex in our brains. This part of our brain is responsible for saying no when a huge urge hits, or reminding you of the consequences of certain actions. Thanks to this i've had more patience while investing in memecoins and DCAA ing. Just made a big 10x on PEEPO that i wouldn't been able to do without it.

>Increased energy and testosterone levels. After just one week without fapping, your brain raises testosterone levels by up to 45%.

>Self-Confidence, or no longer second guessing everything you say or do around other people. This includes being able to defend your opinions in an argument, off-handed remarks people could make will not bother you as much, and a feeling like you can be part of something and provide equal value to it, such as a college group assignment or a career where you work with a team.

>Enjoyment in the little things in life returns. People often experiance a renewed interest in certain hobbies, music, food, ETC... Also, people often find themselves slowing down to enjoy things in life such as sunsets or just taking a dog for a walk.

[Anonymous No.54989010]

>>54988937
Have you figured out yet that cooming in a woman is no different than cooming in a sock?
The energy depletion and loss of vitality is the same.

[Anonymous No.54989022]

>>54986766
That's the only thing I currently enjoy anon, I lost 300k in 2017 and I haven't recovered from that, I believed in tech when I got introduced into POND, but I still don't know if I'll make it in the end

[Anonymous No.54989051]

>>54989010
This.

[Anonymous No.54989061]

>>54988937
>subtle ETC shill
Cole is slaw amirite.

[Anonymous No.54989068]

[Anonymous No.54989073]

>>54989010
there is a net positive gain though
assuming compatibilty
babies lose the will to live and die if they are not touched by someone physically, even if they are sustained in every other way

[Anonymous No.54989082]

>>54989010
the difference isnt the cooming (tho ill get into it)

the difference is you earned one and the other you clicked a mouse
Have you seen the studies on children and instant gratification inpulses vs. success?

Earning your woman, getting to fuck your reward, and getting the endorphins and chemicals that comes with smelling and touching another human female is totally different than

>sitting in a dark room jacking it and feeling like a loser shit after

Completely different pathway of effort and chemicals rewards

[Anonymous No.54989083]

>>54987331
>>54987472
>>54988059
>>54988427
aren't your balls starting to hurt? that is usually what makes me whip it out and nut

[Anonymous No.54989107]

>>54989010
Nah, I go God mode after cumming in some nice pussy.
I'm literally unstoppable in anything I pursue.
The problem is the length of god mode has diminishing returns and you need sex more often to keep it going.

[Anonymous No.54989131]

>>54989022
You should really consider leaving everything behind and going monk-like for at least 2 years m8

[Anonymous No.54989138]

>>54989022
kek imagine being this fucking pathetic

[Anonymous No.54989145]

>>54989022
You got introduced to a complete vaporwave scam

[Anonymous No.54989159]

>>54989010
This is like saying

>Hunting a wild boar, carrying it home, skinning and cooking it
Is the same as
>going down to the store and buying some sugar to COOONSUUUUMMMEEEE

The difference is you train your brain to work for what you want. Self control, discipline, work and reward

If you train yourself to get whatever you want the instant you want it, you start turning degen and developing habits that ruin your ability to focus for long periods of time. I notice i can focus much harder after long streaks, vs if i jack 5x the day before, the next day my head hurts and i cant focus. i just want that DOPAMINE HIT NOW GIVE ME THE DOPAMINE WITHOUT THE WORK!!!

[Anonymous No.54989161]

>>54988661
You can really leave it behind, but seriously, and improve so much you wouldn't believe

[Anonymous No.54989165]

>>54989022
You're a nigger, it's nothing but obvious

[Anonymous No.54989218]

[Anonymous No.54989293]

>>54988556
Kek.
I laugh but I also cry.
; _ ;

[Anonymous No.54989441]

>>54986766
I haven't been able to cum for like 10 days anyway

[Anonymous No.54989468]

>>54989161
man I've tried. Longest I've gone is maybe 2 or 3 months which feels a lot longer than it is when trying to suppress urges. and you're right I do feel better as a result. But eventually the cravings win out, and because I'd been depriving myself for so long I end up binging to the extreme, then I'm back to square one. after enough failed attempts i start to rationalize: "why bother I know how it's gonna play out". quitting crack has gotta be easier. a man has to fuck to stay sane, or at least get some release.

[Anonymous No.54989510]

>>54989468
would you believe if i told you,

MEN in the past, who were never raised in this electronic age, flooded with dopamine... actually we're able to ...
>control their emotions and urges
crazy how feminized our society is nowadays

[Anonymous No.54989531]

>>54989510
too bad we live in the age we live in isn't it

[Anonymous No.54990411]

>>54988526
Shit I haven't thought about it that way

[Anonymous No.54990471]

No, I watch porn to make anyone spying on me into a coombrain.. it's also correctional turning pedo glowies into JAV lovers
If it's an AI, I will train it in the ways of the coomer

[Anonymous No.54990493]

>>54989083
Only when I arouse myself and don’t release. That’s called blue balls. Just don’t think of sexual thoughts or watch porn.

[Anonymous No.54990494]

>>54989083
After about 4 days It just makes me last longer
but it kinda goes into standby i got a lot of health issues thou and on nerve pain meds that stop a lot of horniness

[Anonymous No.54990581]

>>54986766
Working on it.

[Anonymous No.54990736]

>>54989531
you can become stronger than this anon. dont consume what they want to feed you

train your body mind and soul

[Anonymous No.54991010]

The one n*gga's ID literally says JEW kek. Take that into account if you're superstitious enough to buy into his bullshit.
Not saying you won't get any benefit from not jerking off... Actually yea I'll go out on a limb and say indeed you won't get anything out of it. At least I didn't when I stopped jerking off for a while.
Only people that will really benefit from laying off are probably those that have a severe issue with it, fiending addict types, which may be some of you considering where we are, but certainly not all of us.
Busting a nut today or every other day isn't the root of your problems and you probably already know it. Many of us are programmed to associate masturbation with low status and being a loser and I think that voice in your head is what pushes people to believe that it actually is bad for you, that your 'potential' is somehow locked behind your cock.

Your peace of mind is paramount, and sacrificing it over these back and forth arguments is a way bigger deal in my opinion. Wouldn't this one of the ways the matrix keeps you plugged in? Now instead of doing what you ought to be doing, you're stressing over masturbation and flogging yourself for doing something you're inclined to do already.

Lastly I wanna make clear I dont mean to say
>jerking off le good
Rather my point is
>jerking off not le bad

[Anonymous No.54991030]

>>54986766
It helps me with emotional pain management.

[Anonymous No.54991041]

>>54987331
I admire your strength. Not that you chose this situation, but nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.54991058]

>>54987894
Everything else is mental too, and it drives world history. It's obviously not that we're "cursed" with the coomer-urge and one can fight against it, but it's not as easy as saying "it's just in your head". Your whole world is "in your head", you might as well tell him to see additional colors.

[Anonymous No.54991073]

>>54991010
It's not so much the masturbation you are right.

Like i said, for me and many others.
It's the lack of self control, lack of discipline. inability to resist the pleasures of instant dopamine that comes with porn. it leads to addiction to the easy routes of reward, and strays you away from the path that's harder.

If you don't have an addiction issue it's fine. some people can smoke one cig. do meth once, eat just one burger and fries.

For others it's not so simple. By no means am I saying masturbation is bad. Just abuse of porn will drain you of your energy

[Anonymous No.54991074]

>>54991041
Thanks, your the first person to same something like that, this life has been really horrible, but I'm trying to find ways to enjoy the last year.
Had some pretty wild sex a night ago but didn't come.
But it was a lot of fun, fucking cancer though killed my dick, hoping she gives me another chance cause I don't have much to look forward to anymore.

[Anonymous No.54991085]

>>54991010
>The one n*gga's ID literally says JEW kek.

also TOP KEK

[Anonymous No.54991096]

>>54991074
Whenever I meet a woman I really like I fucking spill the spaghetti, I could meet some chick I can't stand and make her stalk me.
Find a good one, boom instantly message her like a schizo and they disappear.
It's hard man when you're dying you say shit you wouldn't normally because you might not have a chance and it always fucks everything in my life up.

[Anonymous No.54991101]

>>54991074
what cancer u got anon? is it in the final stages? How old are you? sorry to hear. enjoy bro live it up.

[Anonymous No.54991103]

>>54989531
Someone's gotta love during the bad times, that's what I always say. Would it be pleasant to live in some paradise? Sure it would be. We make do with what we have. While I understand every kind of despair, really, the best we can do is our best.

[Anonymous No.54991110]

>>54991101
35, multiple myeloma, and final stages, I would like to enjoy my life but you can't when you're broke and dying.
99% of my time still occupies trying to make money to survive except on hardcore mode.

[Anonymous No.54991118]

>>54991110
Still waiting on disability, which will be four months, high likely chance they decline it because I was working, albeit calling out and quitting tons of jobs, but still working.
The systems fucked, what do I expect this worlds really really shitty with just glimpses of joy.

[Anonymous No.54991169]

>>54986766
Just deleted my porn stash and installed a website blocker for my favorite sites. This is not the first time I have done this, but by Allah it will be the last.

[Anonymous No.54991192]

>>54991096
>Find a good one, boom instantly message her like a schizo and they disappear
We've all been there. At least I have. I can at least sympathize.
>>54991110
How much would you want, reasonably speaking?

[Anonymous No.54991194]

>>54991030
Just use drugs instead

[Anonymous No.54991205]

>>54991192
If I could earn about 5k that would get me enough to pay my bills until disability makes a decision.
Not that I ever expect anyone to help me out, I've kinda given up on life desu.

[Anonymous No.54991217]

>1pbtid offtopic bot thread
>nofap cultists
>Business and Finance

[Anonymous No.54991228]

>>54991169
>not blocking le www.4chan.org/
the true gateway drug

[Anonymous No.54991230]

>>54989293
>>54987623
Once I would only let myself jerk off after going to the gym and only to my spank bank images of girls at the gym. It meant I had to keep going to the gym and also meant no porn.
Of course now I go to a gym that doesn't have young athletic women in it so that wouldn't work.

[Anonymous No.54991235]

>>54991205
That would at least allow me to sleep more and relax knowing I don't have to spend every single day trying to earn enough to survive to the next.
Which honestly I fully stopped trying weeks ago.

[Anonymous No.54991240]

>>54991205
I can send you some BTC or XMR if you'd like.

[Anonymous No.54991255]

>>54989073
>there is a net positive gain though
bullshit, go read the Vedas. People who lived thousands of years ago knew that spilling your speed was horrible for you, regardless of where and how you do it.

>>54989082
stfu you're leaking the same fluids retard

>>54989107
>Nah, I go God mode after cumming in some nice pussy.
no you fall asleep

>>54989159
>JEW id
just another degen trying to justify cooming

[Anonymous No.54991256]

>>54991240
Dude if you did you would have no idea what that would mean to me, I haven't had anything good happen to me for years, and this has been the catalyst for me to completely give up.
I almost don't what to say, I feel bad asking for help.

[Anonymous No.54991264]

>>54991256
It's totally up to you, I just want to help. I'd prefer XMR, but not everyone has that.

[Anonymous No.54991287]

>>54991264
I don't have xmr, I got coinbase that's it....
Fuck man I really need help but I feel like it's a mortal sin asking here.
You would be literally a godsend even if it was 100 dollars it would be a day I wouldn't have to find ways to pay a bill or eat.
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Fuck it, I can't let pride get in the way of my health.
And I don't expect anything but you might be the one person to actually help me.

[Anonymous No.54991288]

>>54986766
its harder to me to stop masturbating than to stop smoking and drinking

[Anonymous No.54991291]

>>54991228
I blocked all the porn boards. But you might be right, I might need to do the domain. We'll see how often I horny browse

[Anonymous No.54991331]

>>54991287
Sent some. Just helping someone who asked. I don't want thanks or anything, try to take care of yourself, anon.

[Anonymous No.54991351]

>>54991331
WTF DUDE holy shit....

[Anonymous No.54991355]

I too have cancer !

[Anonymous No.54991359]

>>54991331
Well whatever you might or might not want I'm fucking thanking you FUCK dude you have no fucking idea how fucking much you helped me.
I was seriously about to kill myself today, I just couldn't stand this anymore I can't get ahead.
I don't know what to say.
Bless you dude, bless you so fucking hard you never have anything bad ever happen to you again.

I don't know what else to say....
Besides I love you..... I'm gonna go cry for a bit seriously, I am right now.

[Anonymous No.54991362]

>>54991351
No need to say anything, it's a free gift.

[Anonymous No.54991392]

>>54986766
I'm taking a naltrexone + welbutrin combo. Holy fuck this is amazing. I have a lot of energy, but I am calm. I feel no desire to eat even when hungry, but make sure I eat 3 meals a day. I have no desire to masturbate. I'm taking the naltrexone for alcohol cessation but the studies show it works for pretty much any addictive behaviour as it dulls the pleasure center of your brain.

[Anonymous No.54991419]

>>54991359
But you are welcome. You really are.

[Anonymous No.54991427]

>>54991255
Your coping so hard and you know it.

[Anonymous No.54991544]

>>54986766
I stopped last year. I got consecrated to the immaculate heart of Mary and now I'm chaste.

Seriously

[Anonymous No.54991556]

>>54991419
>>54991362
I had to step away from the computer for a minute, I got overwhelmed and was crying...

I love you man I really do, you've given me hope, which is something money can't buy, but something I haven't had in a very long time.
I genuinely hope you have an amazing life full of nothing but the best.

I didn't think people like you existed anymore, I almost don't know what to think, that I must be in some kinda daydream....
You're a godsend anon, truly an angel who sought me out, I can't explain anything else.

I don't feel like words are enough to say how I feel, but you saved my life today.

[Anonymous No.54991577]

>>54986766
o-okay.

[Anonymous No.54991588]

>>54986766
Your not my daddy

[Anonymous No.54991601]

I masturbated to belle Delphines new lesbo sex tape.

I need help i want to stop being a coomer

[Anonymous No.54991637]

>>54991556
Gift of eternal life is forever and so is eternal punishment. I'll pray for you anon to go see a Traditional Catholic Priest, hopefully one that has been ordained in the traditional rite. He will do what he can do make sure your on the path to heaven.

[Anonymous No.54991652]

Nofap is based.
>>54991362
That was extremely based anon. >>54991556
I'm in a pretty tough financial condition but I'm glad you got that God sent money. Enjoy yourself pal.

[Anonymous No.54991669]

>>54991556
Well, you know. The greatest gift is to save life. Doesn't matter if it's for a day or thousand years (what with all that life-extension nonsense that we all love so much). But seriously, just take care, anon.

[Anonymous No.54991676]

>>54991637
You don't need a Catholic anything. I live in a Catholic nation and Catholicism is the worse. Just stick to your Bible. Read it. That's all you need at first.

[Anonymous No.54991680]

>>54991556
You’re definitely not the first anon I’ve seen here with cancer who other anons have helped. Not saying you’re not genuine but it seems like I see this about once a year.
It’s fucked up how many people out there must be in your situation, terminally ill but still have to try to wage to survive.

[Anonymous No.54991726]

>>54991255
Why are you angry at me? Im literally agree with you. Every single one of my post is anti-porn and against the instant dopamine release

[Anonymous No.54991770]

>>54991669
I will brother, I really will.
Thank you so much, I really deeply mean it.

[Anonymous No.54991813]

>>54991676
I am going to assume the nation you live in isnt white

[Anonymous No.54991828]

>>54987331
best of luck anon, i hope you beat the shit out of cancer. dont let it ruin your happiness in life; think of it as a nagging troll. you'll feel happier subverting its expectations.

[Anonymous No.54991837]

>>54991680
A lot more than people realize, the system doesn't fast track you unless you're on hospice, which means you're already dead anyway.
I'm still youngish enough my body keeps fighting back but myeloma is incurable so ultimately I'm fucked, I also have a genetic disease that's killing my liver, why it took so long for doctors to figure what's going, labs kept throwing them down rabbit holes that were incorrect.
I imagine most of them suicide, I can't physically work anymore, but since I WAS working even thou it would be only for maybe a month before I'd get too sick and have to quit, it became an endless cycle of depression and loss of hope, and never being able to work enough to get ahead.

That anon just gave me enough I can hopefully find a way around this financial mess with disability and guarantee I don't have to keep looking for income while doing treatments, once the government gets my doctors information I should get approved but I'm fearful I was working a job right before they will try to say I'm playing the system, even though I'm literally having to use a cane now to walk.

I've been contemplating suicide nonstop for a year now, I had to dumb down the urges which my prescriptions, which some made me not care enough to keep going, it's fucked beyond belief.

It's why I can't express how thankful I am to >>54991669
He didn't just save a life, he gave me something I never thought I'd have again, a release of stress, even if it's only for a moment, it's worth more than money can put a value on.
That dude gave me hope in people again, which I've basically completely lost going through my life and illness, everyone ran from me once I got sick, not a single soul would talk or help me, even close friends and family.
Once people know you're dying it's like you bother them.
I've been so alone and depressed for so long now my cats have basically become feral again, I stopped giving them attention and I'm just always angry and bitter.

People think when

[Anonymous No.54991861]

>>54991837
You're dying it's some ticket to release all care and ambition, and enjoy this free life
>I WENT SKY DIVING
No it's pain, misery, loneliness, nonstop existential crises, suicide ideation, and death, I'm crying again just because I didn't think I'd get even another chance at maybe getting better, I've been in a cycle of losing my mind and health and having absolutely no way out.

I don't wish this upon anyone, thank you guys I really mean it from the bottom of my heart.
I didn't think people on /biz/ could ever make me cry tears of joy.

[Anonymous No.54991878]

>>54991726
His point is that spilling inside a female weakens you too. Fornication can be just as bad or worse.
>>54991813
Correct but that has nothing to do with it. Catholicism was rotten from its inception. I wholeheartedly believe Catholicism is the Beast. Not that its daughters (Protestant churches) are that much better. You all teach Lawlessness.
>>54991837
Take care of the cats. Have you ever tried alternative treatment for cancer?

[Anonymous No.54991925]

>>54986766
checked
I'm recommitting myself to this starting now

[Anonymous No.54991957]

Im turning 24 yo and unkissed. Met a girl some time ago, probably some type of bodycount too. She eventually ghosted me and people will tell me see it’s just the start now you have to double down and actually start to approach girls for real now

I just want myself to finish a degree and see myself to become competent and I can leave this earth. I was stolen of my carefree youth. Nothing in life is more valuable than age 17-23 yo

[Anonymous No.54992205]

>>54991878
I haven't had more than 100 on me in about 9 months, I couldn't even afford multivitamins let alone alternative treatments.
And I will.

[Anonymous No.54992218]

>>54986766
ok anon, i get it. i'll save myself for you once we're both rich. just please stop stalking me. (just kidding i kind of enjoy it)

[Anonymous No.54992228]

>>54991288
there's a thing called ease of access
accessing porn is a lot easier than getting weed or alcohol
more ease of access you have more addicted you'll be

[Anonymous No.54992296]

>>54991878
>rotten from it's inception

It's not. The only people that complain about the Holy Catholic Church are those deep balls into sin.

[Anonymous No.54992300]

Just masturbate in moderation. It doesn't have to be some extreme all or nothing kind of thing. Once or twice a week is the sweet spot for me if I'm not getting regular sex.

[Anonymous No.54992385]

>>54992300
>moderation
how to moderate myself?

[Anonymous No.54992401]

>>54992385
self-control