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Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptocurrencies. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier to entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Binance
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Kucoin
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

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>>54899046
First for Azumanga Daioh.

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PREVIOUS THREAD: >>54823661

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START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL
START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

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*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

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Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/services

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Buy silver/gold bullion with XMR (US only)
https://monerosilver.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Win XMR!
https://monero.win/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Archetyp
>ASAP
>Astra #
>Asur Market
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Dark Matter
>Darkmoon
>Drugula #
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Retro Market
>Sonanza Market #
>Squid Market
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/wxkQ7gP2


>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Elude EXIT SCAMMING! AVOID!
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/AnkqVGjp


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

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START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE


>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

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>Bitcoin's price = not the result of organic real-world supply & demand = not sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

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>>54899062
>mcafee

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>>54899142

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Reporting in,
fuck Bitcoin.

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##################################
Swimng Pool - https://pastebin.com/raw/ywYMmEr8
IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
##################################
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

>> No.54899916

>>54899054
tomo bout to get KNOCKED THA FUK OUT
lmao
so whats this monera shit about anyways

>> No.54899931

>>54899773
hello
i love you

>> No.54899956

>>54899112
The "No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked" pasta is no longer relevant. Given a sufficient fee market is being demonstrated.

>> No.54899992

>>54899046
Monero WILL flip Bitcoin and we WILL all make it

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>>54899956
>Given a sufficient fee market is being demonstrated.

Seriously?

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my favorite crypto

>> No.54900163

>>54899992
check em

>> No.54900235
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yes

>> No.54900359

>>54900061
Yes, yesterday the fees surpassed the block rewards. As adoption continues to grow, this will become the norm.
I thought that was the thing? You were pivoting from "broken security model" to "no one can afford to use the network".

>> No.54900414

>>54899491
Fuck mcaffee. Moonboy grifter faggot.

>> No.54900447

>>54899046
Monero? More like Nigero.

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>Trusted technology, growing adoption

Zcash was launched by one of the most respected technical teams in the world.

Zcash is the 'https of blockchains,' protecting your freedom to save and spend as you like.

Zcash was the first project to implement zk-SNARKs, a novel form of zero-knowledge cryptography that gives its users the strongest privacy available in any digital currency.

Multiple, independent organizations are funded to innovate on Zcash.

Zcash is already available on top exchanges, digital wallets and a growing number of applications.

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This is what Monero chuds dont want you to know.

Buy Zcash if you actually want to make it.

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>>54900447

>> No.54901053

>>54900486

>Just be compliant, bro

Retard.

>> No.54901647

>>54900486
>>54900475
Another day another shill.
kill yourselves.

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I really just hate bitcoin. I really hate them. The fact that they allow ASICs despite the white paper stating 1CPU 1VOTE yet avoid change citing the white paper is so pathetic.

also txn fee still 8 USD minimum. fucking hilarious.

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>>54899916
private peer to peer cash. what bitcoin should have been.

anyone who knows is already swapping over.

>> No.54902693

>>54900475
your coin so lame you can't even make your own thread

>> No.54902774
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>Check out the weekly opsec discussion!
Previous weeks discussion
PGP - pastebin.com/K5uK4vvg
File Verification - pastebin.com/64jdYSua
Compartmentalization - pastebin.com/fduPVLmV
Case File Reading - pastebin.com/6Jgr2zsL
>OpsAnon's public key
pastebin.com/kiEVscyb

>> No.54902835

>>54900359
I wonder how long will people tolerate this shit.
Not being able to use your money cause some retards are uploading pictures seems quite annoying.

>> No.54903057

>>54902835
It's not the catalyst that we wanted but it's the funniest scenario for clown world

>> No.54903080

>>54899956
>introdicing the latest layer 2 from the developers at blockstream: the litter network!
>store and trade all your NFTs and minecraft builds on the litter network
>don't pay those mean miners to do their jobs! Pay us instead!

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>>54899054
dank 4chan gifs is what got me into azumanga daioh and consequently anime. very cute and funny show.

>> No.54903431

>>54900475
no one is buying your shitcoin, price only goes down, lol

sell and get monero/wownero.

>> No.54903995
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Reminder that the /XMR/ bookclub is now a thing.

>What book?
The Sovereign Individual
>Where to get it?
With explanation: https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/#books
From the tracker: tracker2.postman.i2p/index.php?view=TorrentDetail&id=69603
Clearnet magnet link also available on the website if you don't have i2p.
>Which chapters and for when?
Chapters 10, we'll finish and discuss this Sunday (14th of May).
>Where to discuss?
For now, keep it in /XMR/. Alternatives like bitchan.i2p or XMPP/matrix groupchats could be considered i n the future.

>Chapter 10: the twilight of democracy

For any more info as to how, check out
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/#guide
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/#where
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/#explore

Past weeks
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/week4.html
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/week3.html
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/week2.html
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/week2.html
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/week1.html

>> No.54904060

>>54902774
can i make a request? i don't know if this is on topic with opsec discussions, but i would like to know more about foss software and how to compile it myself as well as if there is any tool to quickly check if the code has some dangerous shit inside or compromised dependencies.
hopefully I'm not being too greedy with this request.

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>>54903131
How many XMR for a Chiyo-chan?

Answer: an unknown amount

>> No.54905247

>>54900414
>Moonboy grifter faggot.
hello sir, you need to go back

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>be bitcoiner
>try to buy cup of coffee
>20 dollar transaction fee

Bitcoiners are the most pathetic coiners on this sorry space. Somehow they will rationalize this as being "good" for bitcoin

>> No.54905547

>>54901741
ASICS are one of bitcoins greatest strengths, but moneroniggers are too stupid to realize that

>> No.54905558

>>54905530
I can send you 1 sat instantly for free right now post lightning invoice.

>> No.54905593

>>54904404
spoilers don't work on /biz/ you silly goose

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>>54905558
>LN invoice
>need to open a channel to receive
>need to make an onchain tx first
>need to pay tx fees again
HAHAHAHAHA

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>>54905547
>ASICS are one of bitcoins greatest strengths,

lol just become dependent on specialized hardware you need to import through State-controlled borders, bro!

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DNM vendors are now personally pushing for a Monero-only standard, the end for Bitcoin might come sooner than we think.

Imagine the copium they'll start huffing once the last BTC-accepting DNM finally ditches it for Monero, can't wait!

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.54906743

>>54906573
>XMRich
Ban in 3..2..

>> No.54906941

>>54906573
KEK

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>> No.54908615

How much longer? I want my monero-chan plushie NOW!

>> No.54908988

>>54904060
Not really on topic, aside from your concern about malware which is sort of covered in the file verification discussion.

>> No.54909513

>>54906573
based.

daily reminder: fuck bitcoin, fuck bitcoiners

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>>54906573

>> No.54910077
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BTC fees projected to keep on skyrocketing, cautiously optimistic this will in fact be the final straw for DNMs to collectively shitcan Bitcoin once and for all.

>> No.54910079

>>54908615
2 more weeks

>> No.54911339

so btc tx fees skyrocketing made xmr tx count grow again
really makes you think

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54911641

Great news, guys, Mike Saylor is bullish on ordinals: https://twitter.com/WClementeIII/status/1656055385512452096

>> No.54911893

>>54911641
Why didn't he call NFTs art until today?

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Zero knowledge proofs destroy ring signatures, its a simple fact.

Buy Zcash before it goes ballistic. $1000 EOY

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>>54912627
Than why dont you guys use them?

>> No.54912860

I will not buy any private crypto unless the developers burn their keys and fuck off

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Putting aside the utter delusion of your meme and subsequent post, are there any plans for monero to move away from ring signatures? they are better than transparent txs but they are certainly not impossible to surveil

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>>54912627
Putting aside the utter delusion of your meme and subsequent post. I do hope there are plans in monero to move away from ring signatures. They are better than transparent txs but they are certainly not impossible to surveil

>> No.54914520

>>54903995
Honestly the summarization of this book sounds like the communist manifesto.
>state will dissolve
>the individual within the collective will have the power
>individuals will have the power equivalent to armies
>taxation will be impossible

Not gonna address the first two points.
But lol who owns the nukes? Who owns the guns? Who owns the latest technology of violence? The government.
So unless the individual is a dimensional shifting being the government will always be a gang of people collecting your taxes.

>> No.54914561

>>54914520
>So unless the individual is a dimensional shifting being the government will always be a gang of people collecting your taxes.
good luck if you don't know who owns what and what exchanges are being made.
it will have to spend more than 1$ to steal back 1$ of taxes, therefore taxation is structurally impossible
>but muh nukes though
kek

>> No.54914573

>>54914520
yep. no taxation just means waring gangs eventually take over and establish a chiefdom possibly based on prison rules.
People seem to pretend assassination markets, snuff films,human traficking and torture in exchange for monero would never happen.
For some reason it doesn't.
I think people don't trust the private tech enough.

>> No.54914680

>>54914561
>who owns what
You are talking as if physical land and physical business will just disappear lol...
The government is going to collect taxes whether you want it to or not, if you refuse to file taxes they will come harder on you than someone who just committed murder, they will find your physical location and take you

>> No.54914685

>>54914573
Not just that. To think you don’t need taxes, you don’t need the government, is to suggest that society will live in such a peaceful manner that neither police or armies are required.
Quite a communist train of thought...

>> No.54914693

>>54899046
I overinvested into XMR and I'm too scared to sell

>> No.54914986

>>54914520
I think the book was a good mind opener, so many predictions actually came true

According to what you said
>the state will dissolve
I think he is speaking about big states, maybe he made a mistake on this but the offense vs defense argument might be true, lets say the money supply trully becomes decentralized then it means goverments cannot know how much money their citizens have basically the wef agenda dissolves if they can't use smart machinery and smart tools to surveil every milimeter of your life.

>individuals will have the power of armys

I think everyone predicted ai is at its strongest when it helps the state however hacking and right now i feel ai gives more boost to individuals, for example the ransomwares to big gasoline companys have probably been done by just a few hackers, also he speaks nation state crime goes lower but gang violence and narcos violence will go up which is kinda true.

Basically the sovereign individual predicts the gameplay will change to mid size players, it basically predicts with the rise of the multipolar world big companys will not able to able for all the taxes and corruption between diferent nations, at least crossing the border right now is easyer but it will become harder in the future, free trade will cease to exist and basically like he said, a business owner that needs to pay fees at 16 borders is not going to be able to compete with the local marketer that at most will need to pay to cross the border once, i still think commoditys will be able to freely pass the borders but with a tax, i still think with the rise of more 3dprinting and machinery we will go back to something like the middle ages because gangs and bloated nation states wont be able to keep up with street violence and local corruption

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>The very last thing said in The Sovereign Individual was such astonishingly bad advice it made me doubt everything else it said prior
It recommended that somebody in 1997 not study programming or software engineering as they would soon be outdated, but would be better served by studying LIBERAL ARTS because it would teach somebody how to "better solve problems"
wew lad
Just wew

>> No.54915182

>>54914685
Less goverment, city states = KoMuNISm
Stupid nigger, go worship jesus

>> No.54915210

>>54914986
You’re right, I misinterpreted the state part wrong, my bad

>>54915182
Cry more

>> No.54915742

>>54914693

You know what to do.

>> No.54915888

>>54901750
>private peer to peer cash. what bitcoin should have been.
i love monero, it's one of my top picks
but just because btc doesn't have those features doesn't make it less the king.
it has good ratings on almost every Al analyzing platforms, it serves as a store of value, similar to gold, which has led to its adoption as a long-term investment asset by individuals, and even governments.

>> No.54915916

>>54915888
>it has good ratings on almost every Al analyzing platforms, it serves as a store of value, similar to gold, which has led to its adoption as a long-term investment asset by individuals, and even governments.
Huh? What are you talking about? Are you AI bot as well?

>> No.54916014

>>54915888
>it serves as a store of value, similar to gold, which has led to its adoption as a long-term investment asset by governments.

What is a glowing honeypot/pump and dump ponzi.

>> No.54917024

>>54915916
>Are you AI bot as well?
OMG, no! i'm just a trader that likes getting deep knowledge from cmc, CryptoCompare, tokenmetrics, (a lot actually) before diving into any project.
>I wish someone caps that

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>>54915888
>it has good ratings on almost every Al analyzing platforms, it serves as a store of value, similar to gold, which has led to its adoption as a long-term investment asset by individuals, and even governments.

Its a mirage, the whole thing is propped up by Tether, critical narrative shifts and wash trading, when BTC is forced to compete under real-world conditions it consistently loses ground to Monero.

I mean, what does it say about "muh hardest money ever created" when soon there won't be any black market vendor willing to accept it?

>I'm not wrong, the market is wrong!

>> No.54917703

Just bought my first 1.25 monero

>> No.54917958

>>54899046
god, I want (to use) a woman built like that!

>> No.54918483

Could someone please post the source image for the "Tower of Babel" holders/stack graphic?

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>>54908615
Should have ordered earlier and it would already be on it's way ;)

Nah but for real, I'll try to get all outstanding orders shipped today. Some have even arrived already!

>> No.54920041

i would hold it and even use it if not for the cringe coomerbait
i am btc maxi, i have bags of xrp too because i enjoy the schizos

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>>54920041
>if not for the cringe coomerbait

Here's some more to further dissuade you. Buh bye.

>> No.54920141

>>54920066
have fun
the only thing that can debunk your fed shitcoin is the fact that most people buy it because of the coomerbait
no one reads this shit

>> No.54920410

>back to "only" $3 TX fees
Did btc maxi run out of pictures?
I thought pictures were the new hot shit that was supposed to secure the network

>> No.54920411

>>54920141
>As a bitcoin maxi Im a fagaot, so sexy female maskot on 4chang is aversive to me.

Shit negro, you might as well be a zcash dev XD. Is this the latest big brain maxipad talking point. Non fagot coins are bad ? XD. Checks out. My sides.

Also the king fed coin calling the best crypto a fed coin is just queer.

>> No.54921235

Zcash is headed for page 3 on coingecko
Can Grayscale even pull out after shilling it so much, or are they forced to hold all the way to zero and hope everyone forgets?

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>>54921235

Cope harder, faggot, Zcash's time is still yet to come. ZKPs will destroy Monero.

Just watch and wait.

>> No.54922837

>>54922614
How is its time supposed to come when nobody uses it and government confirms that it's not actually private

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>>54922614
Watching the meteoric rise to #126 by MC, clearly its going well

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>>54922614

You Will Never Be A Real Woman.

>> No.54922986

What's the best hardware wallet for Monero?

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Must have in your closet.

>> No.54923486

>54882479
Wow, sorry to hear about that! Please do contact us so we can investigate what happened!
We're not only on telegram, we can be reached by email or Matrix (and probably Session starting next week).
This past week the BTC congestion has been terrible, as it greatly increased network fees, and that can have a big impact on small-medium trades.
We try our best to anticipate and fix any problems, but we're a small team, so if you had a bad experience please let us know so we can help you or at least try our best so it doesn't happen again!

>> No.54923607

>>54903131
Shit...you just made me realize that in a roundabout way I can sort of say the same thing...
>be me
>very long time ago
>4chan.org
>Yotsuba.jpg
>whatisthis.avi
>various things occur
>eventually read Yotsuba&
>thebest.exe
>want more
>azumanga.png
>then
>azumanga.mp4
Pretty decent. No Yotsuba or anything, but I like it.
Chiyo is like Yotsuba 0.5 but with higher int and autism.

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>>54908615
>>54899046

Check your spam folders people!

https://nitter.net/monerobull/status/1656434048510590984

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>>54904404
Could Chiyo-chan deanonymize XMR?
Remember that chapter where Tomo gets thrown in jail for buying drugs off the darknet with BTC?
And everyone laughs since that's such a Tomo thing to do...
And then Osaka says:
>she should have used Monero
>it's cryptographically untraceable ya know?

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>>54905547
You have to be joking.
Satoshi didn't even like the idea of GPUs at the time.
But at this point GPU mining like greatest possible atribute that an anonymous currency can have.
Like I'm not even a PoW fan at this point, but it makes perfect sense for Monero.
Want to generate your own coins? Perfectly reasonable and possible.
It's honestly the best argument for PoW that exists in crypto right now by far and it's not even close.
It's like objectively beneficial for everyone that even just values the option of being able to literally trustlessly generate their own private coins at home.
Which is every person, whether they actually get it or not.

>> No.54923900

>>54923731
Ok

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>>54923834
>Chiyo has a hard time believing that Osaka could make a true statement such as this
>Thus takes it upon herself to spend every waking hour outside of school trying to figure out ways to deanonymize XMR
>She's not making any progress
>However coming from a rich family money is no object and during her testing and experiments she notices that she's bought a handful of XMR
>It's sitting there burning an anonymous hole in her wallet while being overcome with fatigue
>Days now of no sleep or progress, she realizes that she would greatly benefit from some 'study aids'
>If the only reason Tomo got caught buying AKB48-FUBNICA-MDBv2.3 online was that she used BTC, there's no reason why she can't order something more reasonable and appropriate to help her with her studies since she already has the XMR anyway...
>tor.exe
>hfw

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>>54899046
genuinely why would you buy monero when haircomb exists and is being used by more than 8 people now

haircomb cant be denied on ramps
haircomb is qc proof
haircomb doesnt need an additional blockchain
haircomb has instant sending for millions of tx at once

why would you need a chain other than bitcoin? it is mystery why people think this will last other than a speculation

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>>54924358

>> No.54924599

>>54924434
how bald can one man be

>> No.54924994

>>54924434
delete this

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>>54922837
>>54922855
>>54922964

Keep seething, pedocoiners, we all know how this ends.

Google 'zero knowledge proofs' to see why Zcash is the next Bitcoin.

>> No.54925338

>>54924599
why is he so bald

>> No.54925396

>>54924434
I would not be standing that close to a man with a knife doing that

>> No.54925769

>>54917703
see >>54900513

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>>54922986

>> No.54926533
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>>54924434
>be me
>grab a coffee
>slice of cherry cheesecake
>sit down to check my favorite general to see what's up
>mfw

>> No.54927755

Does anyone know if rpietila had a lot of XMR when he died?
If so how much?
Was it lost, or did the keys pass on to someone?

>> No.54928034

>>54927755
>rpietila
Literally who?

>> No.54928521

>>54928034
the og xmr whale.
was literally schizo.
bought a literal giant castle in estonia(for xmr? maybe btc i don't remember).
lots more than that happened, but in the end i heard he killed himself.
but i never found out what happened to his stash and i find it relevant now that i'm in the process of allocating money between various crypto for the presumptive bull run that we all hope is coming within the next year or two so we can all buy our own castles with xmr...

>> No.54928568

>>54928034
and by og whale i mean like he was probably the biggest xmr whale ever in nominal terms...definitely had a lot more than fluffypony at the time.
of course this being monero we can never make absolute claims about x or y being the biggest whale...but he was the most public and braggadocios converting a large amout his 2013 btc profits into xmr back when it was around $0.25.
he'd always show off by buying up all the sell walls with [whatever five figure dollar amount would be needed] and was constantly doing this for a while.
i think he ran some kinda org or something early and funded a lot of the dev work. but there was always crazy drama going on.

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>>54924358
Are there people dumb enough to even fall for this shit? Take one look at that github, or search for this dogshit for 5 minutes, its non existant dogshit
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5252297.0

>> No.54928667

What kind of setup should I have for Monero mining?
>>54899046

>> No.54928889
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MONEROMARKET.IO

>> No.54929214

>>54928521
>>54928034
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risto_Pietil%C3%A4

Looks like he had 200.000 XMR at some point but no idea how much was left by the time he died. car accident could suggest the coins are lost but what do i know.

>> No.54929261

What in the fuck just happened?

>> No.54929284

>>54929261
wym?

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>>54929214
>Risto Antero Pietilä (2. syyskuuta 1980 – 14. elokuuta 2020)[1] oli suomalainen liikemies ja Bitcoin-vaikuttaja. Pietilä kuoli auto-onnettomuudessa elokuussa 2020.[2]

>> No.54929715

>>54925285
Okay, I did
Why does nobody use it? Why is law enforcement perfectly comfortable with Zcash but it hates Monero?

>> No.54929834

>>54899046
Anon, this decentralized privacy shit is much sweeter with anonymous transactions and SYLO is just killing it.

>> No.54930263

>>54928667
Ryzen 3000, 5000, or 7000 series

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>>54929834
good morning sir

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>>54931181
ahahah what the fucking fuck

>> No.54931468

>https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bNzy2rxVH94
here a free audiobook of The Sovereign Individual

>> No.54931489

>>54900061
What movie?

>> No.54931506

>Based parts-dispensed
accepting monero to buy "wind chime" kits

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>>54931506

>> No.54931609
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>>54929715
Likely because zec isnt a threat. The overwhelming majority of bagholders dont even use shielded pools. They arent privacy minded people, just people who want to have the appearance of being one. Thats why there is only one privacy coin that is used in opsec critical circles and thats xmr.

>> No.54932571

>>54899046
No BRIDGES ?
What can I use to send from other chains to xmr ??

>> No.54932596

>>54928889
>MONEROMARKET.IO

My man, when tor/i2p mirror? I like what I see but I don't want to be watched so easily.

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>>54932571
>BRIDGES
wrapping xmr removes it's privacy, which is its use case.
>What can I use to send from other chains to xmr ??
Swappers & dexs

>> No.54933372

Member April haveno launch?
I member.

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It's over.

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>>54933409
>he doesn't use mpv + yt-dlp + ytfzf
Everybody point and laugh at this retard.

>> No.54933583

>>54933409
my youtube vanced install recently broke and newpipe doesnt have the top-tier recommendation-algo i trained over the last decade :/

Might have to try revanced or just not watch youtube anymore.

>> No.54934123

>>54933466
>mpv + yt-dlp + ytfzf
> + sponsorblock_mpv
the chad stack for how true intellectuals consume content online and cut the unnecessary bullshit

Don't forget to install Gentoo Linux and use Monero only

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>>54934123
> + sponsorblock_mpv
Real recognize real.
From one chad king to another..

>> No.54934190

>>54934123
>sponsorblock_mpv
This is the true peak of youtube watching. Absolutely based.

>> No.54934488

>>54932571
>No BRIDGES ?
SCRT network on the cosmos inter-chain has a XMR bridge. It even comes with some pathetic privacy as well.

https://scrt.network/blog/secret-monero-bridge-is-live-on-mainnet/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isZ_4AnCTnA

>> No.54934886

>>54923731
based

>> No.54935073

>>54934123
why not OpenBSD? Kernel Linux bloat scares me fr no cap.

>> No.54935282

>>54935073
OpenBSD is slow as fucking molasses

>T. have built monero on multiple versions of openbsd and used to run my node on openbsd

Thus far Debian has been the most stable with the least required setup. Very nice that it's also incredibly well documented.

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>>54925285

Yo where all da wypipo at?

>> No.54935597

>>54931506
>>54931564
either a scam or a honeypot lol

>> No.54935626

>>54933409
heh. never seen that. they just start rolling that out?

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>>54935626

Yeah, its been in the works for a while, they're basically going to war with ad-blocking now.

>> No.54935805

>>54935725
I use ublock origin, along with https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-channel-whitelist/
So I do see ads on channels I whitelist. I might be missing that since they are getting some interaction from my browser.

>> No.54936042

Bros I feel good about monero

If I was holding bitshit I would be having panic attacks, lol at shitcoin holders

>> No.54936546

>>54935282
what is your opinion on systemd . for linux i was thinking of just using slackware.

>> No.54936600

Bought an ounce of high quality dabs with xmr and it was just delivered. Life is good.

>> No.54936683

>>54936546
not that anon, but systemd works fine. it solves a lot of problems, but introduces others. There is always a trade off, and the most important thing to understand are the risks associated with a decision. Systemd is fairly huge and complex. Probably overkill for most people though, so adds unnecessary bloat.

>> No.54937321

>>54936600
based

>> No.54937340

bros, I made this prediction before but within the next 6 months bitshit will crash catastrophically, it might bring monero down to 80 dollars

that's when you go all in

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>>54935597
Accepts CC kek glowies

>> No.54937939

>>54937340
I predict bitshit will pump to 100k and bring monero to 800

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>>54937939
>I predict bitshit will pump to 100k

lol on the basis of what exactly? More wash trading?

>> No.54938936

If a physical store accepts monero, how does it defend itself against protection rackets and other types of extortion?

>> No.54939104

Infinite supply shitcoin.

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>>54939104
Hello third worlder

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>>54906573
holy shit my sides

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54939580

I just like the coin

>> No.54939803

>>54938936
Having a bigger gun

>> No.54939823

>>54939136
Why cant we get an ai that makes monerochan animations

>> No.54939846

>>54899112
I mean i know if bitcoin fails it means we will be all future slaves but i think the current bottleneck of transactions proves its possible for bitcoin on transactions alone, that would require maxis to abandon their stupid ideology of just 7 transactions per sec but it shows its possible for bitcoin miners to sustain themselves on transactions alone

>> No.54939879

How do usd shitcoin bagholders deal with the protection and extortion racket from international government in regards to their physical business

Oh they submit like little cowards cool

>> No.54940186

>>54935282
debian is a work of art. perfect platform to build on.

>> No.54940227

>>54939846
>shows its possible for bitcoin miners to sustain themselves on transactions alone
yes, the core idea! it should be possible
but will it actually?
yet to be seen in my eyes, though I am more optimistic than some other anons in this thread. I do wonder sometimes how they come up with the ideas they spread.

>> No.54940267

>>54940227
>I do wonder sometimes how they come up with the ideas they spread.
Is it really that hard to understand $40 TX fees aren't the way forward?
I bet physically shipping gold around would be cheaper.
>muh LN

>> No.54941256

Forever an infinite supply shitcoin.

>> No.54941340

>>54935331
Jesus christ, ppl from central america are so fucking ugly. Once their tranny coin hits absolute irrelevenace, they are welcome in monero but ffs its an anonymity coin, its not needed for you to show your face!

>> No.54941346

>>54941256
Just like gold

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>>54941256
Oh no, XMR will have 46 000 000 circulating supply in the year 2200, watamagonnado? I will be 2x diluted yo protect the network, oh nonono?whataboutmygreatgreatchildrens? How will they pay for a 300000$ cup of coffee with their XMR if they got diluted 150% of their purchasing power over 170 years? How can this be acceptable vs the USD dilution of 61,318,746% over the next 170 years?

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>>54941256
"Oh no, XMR will have around 46,133,884 circulating supply in the year 2200, what am I going to do? I will be diluted 152.47% to protect the network, oh no, what about my great-great-grandchildren? How will they pay for a $22.32 cup of coffee with their XMR if they got diluted 152.47% of their purchasing power over the next 177 years? How can this be acceptable compared to the USD dilution of 644.00% over the same period?"

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>>54941256
Oh no, XMR will have around 46,133,884 circulating supply in the year 2200, what am I going to do? I will be diluted 152.47% to protect the network, oh no, what about my great-great-grandchildren? How will they pay for a $110 USD cup of coffee with their XMR if they got diluted 152.47% of their purchasing power over the next 177 years? How can this be acceptable compared to the USD dilution of 3600% over the same period? watamigonnado?

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>>54941340
The will baghold into the ground, amaxing what these thirdies will do for a free tee shirt kek.

>> No.54941519

>>54941340
>its an anonymity coin
no it's not, it's just sound digital cash, and privacy is a consequence.

>> No.54941741

>>54941503
unfathomably based

>> No.54942270

>>54899046
Is there any real woman with hips like this?

>> No.54942281

>>54903131
It's great except for the pervy teacher, which is just cringe and not funny and only detracts from an otherwise great show.

>> No.54942298

>>54942281
He isn't pervy. Just ugly. He is a nice man and you shouldn't judge people by their appearances unless they are trying to sell you something.

>> No.54943279

>>54941503
Holy shit, this is one of the best redpill.

>> No.54943426

>>54943279
Yep. Monero has its future secured. Bitcoin has its future speculatively secured. And even if Monero's privacy isn't absolutely perfect and can be cracked by the top 0.01% of quantum computers (big maybe)... it's still better than paying anything in BTC and getting wrench attacked.

This is simple logic but maxipads will pretend they don't understand lmao

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>>54939846
>if bitcoin fails it means we will be all future slaves

Bitcoin is failing and dying out on the black market without issue, pal. Token not needed.

>shows its possible for bitcoin miners to sustain themselves on transactions alone

These are not regular TXs, they're jeet scammers trying to launch the next $PEPE and are thus willing to pay exorbitant fees to make that happen ASAP.

Take these willing enablers out of the equation and you're left with a multitude of confused n00bs who don't understand why it now costs $25 to transfer $5 worth of BTC.

BEHOLD THE FUTURE OF FINANCE

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>>54941514
>The will baghold into the ground, amaxing what these thirdies will do for a free tee shirt kek.

The village must be fed.

>> No.54943941

>>54941503
N I C E

>> No.54944003

Okay yeah it was just like 2-3 weeks ago I was bitching about risks posed to Monero by Cake getting overly large and deciding the direction of development, etc.

However, this is breddy neat.

https://github.com/cake-tech/cake_wallet/releases/tag/v4.6.5

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>>54943503
>Hamza Hamzamama KYCs himself on Goybase because he took Israeli shrapnel to the skull when he was 7 and has permanent brain damage
>pulls out bitcoin to third party wallet
>sends bitcoin to Hamas because gonna get back at those kikes who fucked my head up
>entire town blows up
I wonder why they decided that was a bad idea.

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>>54899046

Your participation needed:

Global Hyperinflation. General /GHG/ >>>/pol/426787172

>> No.54945374

>>54941519
doesn't cash has serial numbers than can make each bill different from one another?
just asking, since you want to get so technical about it.

>> No.54945458

>>54943520
funny how the guy in the back tries to cover his zshirt out of pure shame. i guess if he wasn't black his face would be red af.

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>>54945458
>tries to cover his zshirt out of pure shame.

Really puts things in perspective.

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>> No.54947908

>>54945717
you can tell this was spontaneous

>> No.54948131

>>54944003
>Okay yeah it was just like 2-3 weeks ago I was bitching about risks posed to Monero by Cake getting overly large and deciding the direction of development, etc.
care to elaborate?

>> No.54948219

>>54945374
Does anyone record the serial numbers

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monerochan posting

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Josh Swihart, the senior vice president of growth, product strategy, and regulatory affairs at Electric Coin Company, actually said this today.

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Was nooticing some things in local newspapers in grocery store and lightly read some article about counties failing to get funds for roads/infrastructure spending. Now I am aware of that meme book biz mentions a lot about being a sovereign individual and I can see the connection. But I'm also thinking maybe the crypto space is looking at things the wrong way. A lot of "technical" projects like ETH or chainlink is about some abstract payment system. Bitcoin morphed into some weird "reserve currency" that you shouldn't spend until you are a gazillionaire oligarch according to the maxis. I think the big question is the "why" to the dollar, and I believe the answer is in the goods you can get with the dollar because of the large companies that trade in the dollar. I mean how is the dollar some mean of exchange when a publicly traded company like coca cola cannot deliver coca cola easily to some jurisdiction? The dollar not redeemable to some international good when that company has lost its ability to move its product makes the dollar lose more of its trait as a medium of exchange. Localism is inevitable so you would want a local currency.

>> No.54950074

>>54941340
How do they plan to do that with the growing need for regulatory compliance? Probably we might see more adoption of anonymouse identities like NexeraID and PolygonID.

>> No.54950269

>>54930263
Thx anon I'm gonna look into the amd series

>> No.54950493

Just checking....yep, still an infinite supply shotcoin.

Keep coping, baggies.

>> No.54951545

>>54950493
Sure gold is an infinite shitcoin if the bitcoin narrative is as strong as you say it is then we have wownero

>> No.54951556

>>54949668
>Localism is inevitable
>so you would want a local currency.
That doesn't follow at all

>> No.54951804

>>54949664
might as well just use fiat

>> No.54951964

>>54950074
>regulatory compliance
Under the current systwm you can have only one, choose wisely:
Anonymity or regulatory compliance
Anyone who says that you can habe both, is lying. The only reason zcash brags about having compliance its because no one uses their currency and its not a danger for the system. at some point if zcash gets huge adoption(kek) then the regulatoors will give an ultimatum, they have to stop being an anonymity coin(implying it is rn) and introduce a back door for glowies or just be an outlaw like xmr. We all know zcash its a knee bender and a cocksucker coin instead of a revel.

>> No.54952433

>>54929834
>this decentralized privacy shit is much sweeter with anonymous transactions
This makes it an appealing option for users who embrace their privacy and want to still have control over their data

>> No.54952549

>>54951964
To an extent, compliance is needed because it will reduce fraud. With the nexera solution, even defi can be compliant and still be anonymous in a way. There are others also. Polygon is a good one.

>> No.54953046

>>54950493
You hold ethereum don't you squidward

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>>54951556
I consider monero a "local currency". The number of machines with CPUs is pretty damn big and always going up. ASICs on the other hand is much much less. I would say monero has the best adoption curve against a shrinking supply chain compared to competitors. How sustainable is the bitcoin network when its policy is to only use specialized complex to manufacture mining machines that are meant to be burned out and trash bin ready in a few years at best? Compare this to every town city village that has a lot of laptops, desktops sitting around. Excuse me if I sound very WEF here but monero is more "sustainable" then bitcoin.

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Reminder that this is what the Zcash shills that shit up our Generals actually look like.

>> No.54953872

>>54953575
>venezuelans
God i hate those vermins. They invade every country they can and turn it into shit.

>> No.54953900

>>54952549
>reduce fraud
What kind of fraud are you talking about and how us compliance solving those frauds

>still be anonymous in a way
You either are fully anonymous or you arent

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>>54951804
>might as well just use fiat

Even the faithful are now starting to wonder just how much Zcash actually glows.....

>> No.54955254

>>54903995
>For this reason, it is expected that one or more nation-states will undertake covert action to subvert the appeal of transcience. Travel could be effectively discouraged by biological warfare, such as the outbreak of a deadly pandemic. This could not only discourage the desire to travel, it could also give jurisdictions throughout the globe an excuse to sealtheir borders and limit immigration.
This is the most schizo thing in the book and yet it already happened.

>> No.54955372

>>54949664
> ZCash devs met with White House
I thot WH Market uses XMR..

Bros???

>> No.54956180

>>54955372
>I thot WH Market uses XMR..
The "real white house" did use XMR.

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>>54899046
How much Monero to buy a CYOA-styled magical mansion?

>> No.54956842

>>54956339
~150 give or take based on location.

>> No.54957936

>>54948219
I've heard some ATMs scan the serial numbers in the bills they expend. Obviously tied to the card owner's identity.

>> No.54958111

so what happened in moneroropia?

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>>54958111
Checked
The people want to know

>> No.54959046

>>54958366
Classified

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>> No.54960014

>>54958111
>so what happened in moneroropia?
Lots of fun. Wide range of panels covering just about everything, even had a PoS vs. PoW debate.

>> No.54960024

>>54899046
is monero still a thing?

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>> No.54960984

>>54960024

Darknet sez AWW HELL YEAH

>> No.54961270

>>54960014
>PoS vs. PoW debate
who had the best arguments?
is there a video?

>> No.54962308

>>54961270

Seriously?

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>>54962255

they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

>> No.54962618

>>54948131
Basically, if any one organization, company, on/offramp, etcetera aped too much of the pie, decentralization of the ledger really stops mattering because you still have one group of people who get to hand pick devs supportive of implementing anything they want (because they have the bankroll to fund as many as they want) can astroturf concerns about XYZ feature (which they'll be able to sell us a solution to) ans basically gimp any given project to the point of uselessness and (once again) reliance on a central group.
Look up Blockstream and Lightning network, then watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_g

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Seeing as its Sunday, here's a question for those reading The Sovereign Individual. The book talks a lot about businesses and entities which can operate completely digitally, but it doesn't mention much about the flow of material goods between jurisdictions, or about location dependent organizations such as manufacturing and farming.

Will manufacturing and consuming of goods be more locally based than it is now with global shipping diminishing in scale due to the lack of nation state protection? Will the level of consumption go down in general? And when it comes to the manufacturing of crucial items such as semiconductors, will these operations be centralized to certain jurisdictions like it is now, or will fabs become widespread across the globe?

>> No.54962940

>>54962618
oh, interesting. any idea how can we prevent that from happening again? looks like they grabbed monero.com, which would indicate an intention to hijack the likeness of the actual project (bitcoin.com comes to mind).

>> No.54962960

>>54962736
>it doesn't mention much about the flow of material goods between jurisdictions, or about location dependent organizations such as manufacturing and farming.
Yes it does.

>> No.54963399

>>54962618
>oh, interesting. any idea how can we prevent that from happening again?
its called a fork or rollback you concern troll.

That is the basic idea behind blockchains fagot.
Even BTC forked a bunch of times and almost all of its forks are superior to the original. The originals price has nothing to do with its use or utility since its a glowing pozi propped by wall-street and retards serfs

>> No.54963423

Hey, I was wondering what's the easiest non-kyc way to trade BTC/LTC into XMR and the other way around?

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>>54962736
I was thinking about 3D printing when reading that section

>> No.54963681

>>54962940
just be vigilant and promote the underdogs whenever possible.

>>54963399
The entire point of my "concern trolling" is that if we get to the state where a hard fork (or other significant modification of the code or changing the source that it comes from) is needed, untold damage will already have been dealt to the community and It will also be a very obvious sign that the community never actually gave one fuck about decentralization. Those are blows we may never recover from.

I'm not preaching some end of days bullshit, I'm not implying there's some spooky bug in the code, this is a very real offchain phenomenon that has already happened in the wild, It's no more "concern trolling" than informing people that their houses may one day catch on fire. I'm just pointing out that we need to keep our extinguishers and smoke detectors up to date

Good job letting that one fly clear over your head though. Not every concern about bad things that can happen to Monero is trolling.

>> No.54964011

>>54963423
TradeOgre, but you will need a fiat onramp somwehere else.

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/XMR/ general weekly book club - WEEK 5 being late edition

This is the fifth week of the book club, with chapter 10 of the book "The Sovereign Individual" by Sir William Rees-Mogg and James Dale Davidson.

Now a brief (but not comprehensive enough) description of the chapter:

>Chapter 10: The twilight of democracy
>It is no secret that democracy has been relatively rare and, fleeting in the history of governments. In those times, ancient and modem, where democracy has prevailed, it has depended for its success upon megapolitical conditions that reinforced the military power and importance of the masses.
Getting close to the end of the book, the authors choose to tackle the (non)issue of what future governance might look like. Building on previous chapters, modern democracy arose as the most efficient manner of extracting the most amount of resources out of its citizens. The rise of mass-democracy was no doubt a megapolicial phenomena as well, that is bound to be altered to skew towards market choice. This was hinted at previously with the "governments for customers", however now the dichotomy between economic and political choice becomes clear. And to ultimately answer the question, the book poses the example that a customer shopping for a new pair of jeans does not care if the seller is a LLC, publicly trader or held by insiders, he only cares about how it'll serve him for what cost. The authors expect the same to happen with people "shopping for sovereignties"

Questions:
1. This chapter says a neo-luddite reaction will include proposing "stakeholder capitalism". I'd argue that this is clear that such sentiments are rising among "leftist politics" with UBI or on the more extreme spectrum accelerationism (both sides). Is this happening, or just a momentary trend. If the rising political solution is increasingly non-political, will there be a violent infliction point of this trend when it comes to fully embrace the new dynamics of the world?

>> No.54964039

2. The later part of the chapter provides a direct link between the rise of large corporations and the megapolitical conditions of the Industrial Age with with the inability for market forces to penetrate intrafirm relationships. From this follows the rise of "virtual corporation", which is already happening with tech companies. Which tools, if any, would be necessitated for other sectors to follow suit?

Also as a sidenote I'd like to mention how the book lays the case for assets being out of control of governments and financial transactions being untraceable. It quite literally spells it out
>the reactionaries of the new millennium will find the financial privacy facilitated by information technology especially threatening
So it is really ironic to see Bitcoin maximalists talk praise this book, not realizing the irony that Monero is closer to the financial technologies described that Bitcoin ever was.

But as always, feel encouraged to share your own thoughts, opinions, or summaries.

Now going for chapter 11 ending by the 21st of May. The site will be updated now on Tuesday morning with this post and discussions to leave a bit more space. See previous weeks' ones at
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/week4.html
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/week3.html
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/week2.html
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/week1.html
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/index.html

>> No.54964153

>>54964039
>So it is really ironic to see Bitcoin maximalists talk praise this book, not realizing the irony
Turns out I'm having a stroke, meant
>It is really ironic to see Bitcoin maximalists praise this book without realizing the fact that Monero is closer to financial technologies described in the book that Bitcoin ever was

>>54962736
>Will manufacturing and consuming of goods be more locally based than it is now with global shipping diminishing in scale due to the lack of nation state protection? Will the level of consumption go down in general? And when it comes to the manufacturing of crucial items such as semiconductors, will these operations be centralized to certain jurisdictions like it is now, or will fabs become widespread across the globe?
I think this connects quite aptly to this weeks chapter.
>This is more than merely a theory, [..] there is no essential reason that social services and many public goods must be provided by political means.
Currently, the status-quo is the USA army and in specific the Navy secures most of international commerce so that individual countries need not have a standing strong navy that ventures out from their own waters. There are two issues with this stemming from newer conditions. Firstly, alternative transport routes are widely used, such as "shipping" by airplanes or digital transmissions. Also with 3d printing becoming better I'd say it is perfectly reasonable to expect custom goods to be purchased either from a human or robotic designer and then have them printed and assembled locally.
Secondly, as citizens transform into customers (or at least the luckier ones) some might expect global physical protection services on their actives. Alternatively, it might not even be the national army that will provide that, but rather private firms as hinted by the above paragraph. Libertarian authors during the past century have done a great deal of demonstrating market-based solutions for "public" services.

>> No.54964502

>>54964153
What authors provide that to be honest it feels so dystopian if there isn't a goverment that controls basic services like water and security i mean i want globalization to dissapear and be excited to see a gameplay of nomad gangs but i don't think the world should devolve into some some form of anarchic violence just imagine if all the ships of the american army were privatized it sounds more dangerous

>> No.54964664

>>54962940
Pay l33t haxors to kill monero.com

>> No.54964709

>>54899085
thanks for mentioning kyun

>> No.54964814

>>54961270
I could be wrong here but wasnt this more of a discussion around the nym pow/pos "hybrid"? I have no idea what thats supposed to mean and desu im offput on nym because of their vc backing and the crazy high buyin to just run a node.

>> No.54964992

>>54963452
>>54964153
Thanks for the replies,
Yeah it seems that 3d printing would be a cornerstone of such a future, making it easier to produce goods locally to avoid the higher costs of shipping.
Imagine a manufacturing facility which could spit out basically anything you tell it to, only requiring raw materials and the most highly complex components to be shipped in.
Maybe that's a stretch, but still its easy to adopt a normalcy bias and forget that tech is rapidly advancing and outdating today's practices. Many things which seem normal and smart now will be laughably anachronistic in the future.

>> No.54965271

>>54963681
>untold damage will already have been dealt to the community and It will also be a very obvious sign that the community never actually gave one fuck about decentralization

Except it will not. AND YOU ARE CONCERN TROLLING.
We forked before randomX and XMR classic come to be. Everybody was onboard and happy (except XMR classic miners). There were also many toxic soft forks and we didn't give them hashpower. If Cake makes a toxic update (it might, you never know), we will make a role back or fork and XMR cake will be left like an appendix.
I will not reply anymore, because your claims are concern trolling, illogical and your beyond reason or redemption. Not that you care, because you know your position is retarded from the get go. #basic of blockchains.

In every man made endeavor (cryptos are not nature made like silver), there has to be a developer or something that is the top dog. That is why monero is open source and thanks to randomX you can chose what you mine.

And if somehow your arguments were valid and not just rambling of subhuman, what would be your solution noble concern fag, let me guess: buy ztrash or bitcorn - I guess it depends on who is your paymaster

Get a fucking real job or a clue

>> No.54966054

>>54903995
This is a fantasy.

No crypto can substitute fiat currencies for mass transactions in internal and global markets.

At best they can have their niche use (like Monero in DNMs) and that's it.

So no, there will be dissolution of nation states and other similar organizations.

>> No.54966066

>>54966054
there will be no* dissolution

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Any books similar to The Sovereign Individual?

>> No.54966136

>>54966095
Anyone whos had a reptile pet will immediately realize how disgusting it is to be treated like an animal. Yea give me some egg cartons with crickets for me and my lizard. Maybe this is a jewish thing, theyre compared to lizards sometimes.

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>>54965271
To be fair to the anon you are arguing with, Monero has not yet experienced a co-opting campaign at the scale of Blockstream. If Cake were to build a team of 10,20, 50+ full time software engineers and tech leads, they could output so much useful software for the Monero ecosystem that they could absolutely co-opt Monero development in a short amount of time.

Luckily for Monero, we can learn from the Blockstream "attack" and develop some contingency plans.

Here is my pleb contingency plan to stop Blockstream type of attacks :

>The monero community should finance the creation of non-profit organizations
>these non-profit organizations must be incorporated with legal agreements that force them to use donor funds to run monero nodes/ miners
>The non-profit must be legally required to run only protocol updates that strictly adhere to the Monero community philosophy
>running a Monero fork that violates any of these updates comes with heavy legal penalties

I know this would open a new can of worms when it comes to governments co-opting or coercing these organizations, but I think diversifying the jurisdiction of these organizations could help mitigate some of these risks.

I am sure someone in the higher ranges of IQ has thought a better contingency plan but this is just my 2 cents

>> No.54966223

>>54965271
>what would be your solution noble concern fag, let me guess: buy ztrash or bitcorn
he's literally arguing against the corporate governance structure that makes both of those currencies awful.
>AND YOU ARE CONCERN TROLLING.
saying it louder doesn't make it true, and nothing you said refutes his point. lurk moar - or at least read the fucking post before responding.

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>>54966158

This is just one approach of course.

Another approach is to outspend Cake's tech team. This is hard to do, but not impossible. If there was a website were the Monero community could raise funds to finance small teams of developers that can work on 1-2 Monero features and/or research. Monero could "decentralize" it's tech development. Cake could still have influence on Monero's development, but the cost of co-opting Monero's development will increase exponentially

>> No.54966429

I hope all bitcoiners lose their money because they are midwits and deserve financial ruin for sticking with a worthless ponzi scheme.

>> No.54966441

>>54899046
Damn that's tummy is really sexy, anybody know who the artist is?

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>@MoneroDoct0r
Funny that they used monero in the name of bot accounts to push their pandemic misinformation. I wonder if it was deliberately targetted to reach XMR users for the vaxx or if it was mere cohencidence.
The account has since been suspended, presumably because it was a bot account.

>> No.54968090

Infinite supply = kiss of death.

>> No.54968208

>>54948219
Marked bills and sequenced bills.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cSuGNcdTQ4

>> No.54968269

>>54948407
thanks anon

>> No.54968530

>>54966095
I was thinking about the next book we read, what do anons think about Wealth of Nations? Any other ideas? Something discussing different economic/monetary theories would be great

>> No.54968835

>>54968090
Elaborate. Completely decentralized mining 1 cpu = 1 vote. Tis beautiful, not asic bullshit Chinese Miners and 40$ transaction fees.

>> No.54968978

>>54968208
You posted a movie clip and no proof that anyone is recording serial numbers

>> No.54969340

>>54968978
Anon, I...


Banks regularly record the serials of random bills from random stacks of cash, for the explicit purposes of helping trace illicitly obtained US currency. (typically from bank/armored car robberies)

A 30 second google search could have told you this.

>> No.54969405

>>54968090
FUD retards don't even try. This is only true over an infinite timescale. The inflation rate of XMR will perpetually approach 0. Bitcoin transaction fees area already way higher than Monero's, even not including all the bullshit you have to do in order to reach feature parity with Monero, and miners are still getting block rewards. Bitcoiner cope is so fucking annoying. They all repeat the same stupid talking points.
>muh "infinite supply"
>I can't audit the entire blockchain with my calculator, inflation bug!
>Bitcoin will be a store of value, Monero will be cash
>The base layer should be rock solid and never change unless absolutely necessary
>Just use the second layer!
The last probably pisses me off the most, why the fuck would Bitcoin be a "store of value" if no one actually transacts with it? At least I can make jewelry and electronics with boomer rocks.

Monero chads what's the psychology of the Bitcoin Maxi? Is it just a religious cult? Are they just "get rich quick" retards? A general emotional attachment? I genuinely don't understand how people can be so obviously, confidently, and objectively wrong.

Bitcoin is not a threat to the state. Monero is.

>> No.54971083

>>54968530
>I was thinking about the next book we read, what do anons think about Wealth of Nations?
I would say wealth of nations would be a heavy book.
>Any other ideas?
Democracy The God That Failed, by Hans-Hermann Hoppe.

We need to get rid of us from the stupid idea that is democracy.

>> No.54971184

>>54969405
low iq, conformist mentality

>> No.54971284

>>54969405
It is a religious cult.

But if we are honest, so is Monero and the rest of the crypto space.

>> No.54971410

>>54971284
Some people take the fanatic cultist approach, but that is not limited to crypto currencies. You can see those people in every group of society. I think we must welcome all critics made to xmr and analize them properly and acording to that analisis, we make a plan.
To label everything as fud or concern trolling is a great way to become obsolete.

>> No.54971729

Monero is hot garbage. Its privacy don't work (OSPEAD attack, node attacks, timing attacks), it's got infinite inflation and a uncapped supply, and it has NO adoption. BTC is STILL the most used crypto on darknet markets goin' by chainanalysis. Monero is just wack.

Stick to BTC and ETH if you're not a midwit.

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>>54971729
your spam is cringe

>> No.54971789

>>54971729
>BTC is STILL the most used crypto on darknet markets goin' by chainanalysis
>goin' by chainanalysis
This part gives me the giggles

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>>54971729
>goin' by chainanalysis

Chainalysis relies on known DNM wallet activity to infer volume. It can't infer shit if it can't see shit.

So when they report that BTC is still king but overall DNM traffic is reducing it actually means that Monero is being used more and more.

Retard.

>> No.54972864

Right, so for my mansion, I'd like it to be in the countryside, spacious, and filled with big tittie maids. I wouldn't force them into sex or anything, but it is a mansion in the countryside, so if they want, I'd be happy too. But I'd also be willing to just give them bubble baths and pat their heads. It'd also have a vegetable garden.

>> No.54973366

>>54900486
who funds them?

>> No.54974053

>>54971284
Personally, I haven't really seen religious zealoutry about Monero itself in the community. I do have pseudo religious beliefs, and Monero is just a tool to help me bring about my own "kingdom on earth", so to speak. In all honesty, I wish Bitcoin were Monero, it would make the fight against the state much easier.
That being said, if a project that is better than Monero in threatening the state picks up steam, and Monero refuses to change, I'm totally fine with jumping ship. Thankfully it seems that most everyone who is interested in Monero is interested in continually improving it and have similar ideological commitments as me.

>>54971410
Even on the Monero subreddit there's a weekly skepticism thread.

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>> No.54974729

Am I helping the network if I use the same cash by mail guy on localmonero regularly? There is only one guy who ships domestic in my country. I guess I am helping to keep him in business at least.

>> No.54974994

>>54974729
You're helping a monero merchant, which is still pretty good. Maintaining fiat liquidity is important too.
The only way to contribute to the NETWORK is by running a full, open node, by mining or maybe by helping pay for the costs of someone else's node.

>> No.54975017

>>54973366
Unironically Amazon and Israel, among others.

No, I am not memeing on you.

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>>54955254
It was funny to read that, but keep in mind that the concrete predictions do not really work as the authors have no idea what the technology of the future might be. A great example of this is how they envision digital cash as being backed by physical gold. Unbeknownst to them, digital scarcity would be first achieved with Bitcoin. And the list keeps going, 3d printing (including 3d printed firearms), internet centralization, problems with online identity verification, torrenting, whistleblowers all seem like trends that the authors simply couldn't have been aware of.

>>54966095
You might enjoy early chyperpunk writings as they have similar themes but with a clearly formulated ambition. The cyhperpunk manifesto is in the OP for starters, and their (at the time) very active mailing list has public archives
>https://mailing-list-archive.cryptoanarchy.wiki
I don't feel like an authoritative source on this, but I'm sure other anons can point to specific essays that are similar in nature or topics. Sadly, I don't know of any books existing.

>>54968530
>Wealth of Nations
Does seem too large to tackle in a simple weekly bookclub, plus it's a tad bit old so it doesn't have the most up-to-date ideas. What about "What Has Government Done to Our Money" by Murray N. Rothbard? It is relatively short (~112 pages in the pdf with a thin page width) and it does deal with monetary theory, (hyper)inflation, money, and the government's actions to the economy.

>> No.54975437

>>54975310
>plus it's a tad bit old
Old /= bad. Austrian economics is not a new idea and the people who came up with it really didn't leave much unsaid.

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>>54899046

Your participation needed:

Global Hyperinflation. General /GHG/ >>>/pol/427139582

>> No.54976322

Is there something you guys would want to buy on monero.io ? or is this all mostly larp

>> No.54976344

>>54976322
I have made a few purchases on MM, there is a lot of bullshit items posted, but it does seem to be slowly growing

>> No.54976429

UHHHH, MONERO BROS?
>>54975969

>> No.54976433

>>54976344
is there anything you would like posted that is not available (legal)

>> No.54976476

>>54976429
3 year old fake new

t. less than 3 year in crypto = you bought bitcorn at the top XD

>> No.54976474

>>54976433
I was trying to snag a flipper zero the other day but someone got to it before me. Listings in leafland are pretty sparse.

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>>54976429

FAKE & GAY

>> No.54977264

Is monero mining worth it? Exchanges are starting to ask for the purpose of monero withdrawals.

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>>54977264
>Exchanges are starting to ask for the purpose of monero withdrawals.

Get the fuck off CEXs already.

>> No.54977345

>>54977308
How else do I buy monero? Please educate me.

>> No.54977977

>>54975437
Fair point, I rather meant that his ideas are antiquated by newer ones, namely by Austrian Economics. But anyhow, it is still long and not the easiest to read in my opinion.

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The attack on I2Pd seems to have subsided. Still waiting on the patch.

>> No.54978952

>>54977308
If only it weren’t for the high fees.

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>>54978952

Wouldn't know. How high we talkin here?

>> No.54979053

>>54969340
Oh so store's don't record it and once it is spent then it can't be traced

>> No.54979070

NEW THREAD: >>54979068
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>> No.54979798

>>54975702
Missed it sorry fren

>> No.54980028

xenu is a manlet

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>>54899046

>> No.54981888

>>54971729
>BTC is STILL the most used crypto
Yeah, and there are hundreds of others that are useful in real world
>goin' by chainanalysis
it's one of my fav sites for crypto insights, alongside tokenmetrics and coinGecko
>>54964011
How safu is this?