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>"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. Mark 10:25"
What the fuck man should i just be homeless or some shit???

>> No.54874216

>>54874200
Keep reading the next few lines you ADD zoomer

>> No.54874260

Don't trust the translation, the "eye of a needle" is a yoke, camels have to get on their knees to fit into the yoke.

>> No.54874267

Look at the rich.

They have life so easy and they don't even thank God a little bit.

Look at how people say things like, "BAD THINGS HAPPENING IN THIS LIFE IS PROOF GOD ISN'T REAL/DOESN'T CARE ABOUT US EVEN IF HE WAS".

However when life is good and full of comfort humans still reject God and think of themselves as powerful, all their achievements and glory are theirs alone, commit to a life full of sin without even attempting to repent and/or don't care how evil they are.

So it seems when man is poor he complains about how unfair the idea of God is, and when he is rich and life is all good there is not even a thanks.

When it comes down to it God really just sees one type of man as truly doomed. The prideful who won't acknowledge God and refuse to even ask for forgiveness and give a little thanks.

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>>54874200
Relax.. Most poor people will also burn in hell., too..

>> No.54874320

>>54874200
no, you should stop listening to jewish fables

>> No.54874333

>>54874320
You call it a Jewish fable but how is the idea bad?
We leave all this wealth and so do any successors. None of it really matters, it's all temporary and has no worth since no one, literally no one can take a single ounce of gold with them to the next life.

>> No.54874356

>>54874267
nothing bad in your life is god's fault, nothing good in your life is god's doing. You are where you are because of your parents actions and decisions and your own.
Just like your current masters reward certain behaviours and punishes others, so are your fables used to control your action and thinking.
You are on the opposite end, feeling no pride for your accomplishments. If you made it then it was with Gold help but if you fail and become homeless, you'd probably blame yourself

>> No.54874363

>>54874333
Your descendants can take that gold, thats how jews think and why they currently rule the world. Your type of thinking was made to keep goyim poor, cause why bother youre gonna die and "no one can take a single ounce of gold with them to the next life". Jews certainly care about the wealth they make, so their kids can continue their plans

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Maybe I don’t want to go to heaven.

>> No.54874381

>>54874356
then it was with God's help*

>> No.54874479

The morals of agrarian societies are inherently incompatible with what we have today. It was a different world entirely.
If you want to see what true Christianity looks like look into the Desert Fathers.

>> No.54874735

>>54874200
>quotes jewish literature
Post proof of foreskin with timestamp.

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>>54874200
Rich people who were blessed and served God>
Job - Lost everything then x10 everything
Moses - Adopted into Egyptian power. Became rich after escaping egypt's bear market.
Joseph - Kidnapped into egypt. Appointed 2nd most powerful man and x7 in profits.

Just serve the Lord Jesus Christ and let him know you. You'll be blessed with riches and still enter the Kingdom of God. For ALL is possible in Christ.

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>>54874770
How's the weather in Tel Aviv?

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>>54874479
The desert being in the Middle East, of course. Europe isn't a desert. We don't have a desert worldview or desert values or desert morals, nor desert deities.

>> No.54874837

>>54874792
I don't know. How is it for you my Jewish anti-christ? I deny the Talmud and Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. Keep seething to your own judgement.

>> No.54874994

>>54874200
>25It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
>26And they were astonished out of measure, saying among themselves, Who then can be saved?
>27And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.
The point is that rich men are not going to enter the kingdom of Heaven by virtue of being rich. Nobody can enter Heaven through wordly means, such as wealth, status, etc. but only through God. You could be a dirt poor, destitute hobo but if you aren't godly, you aren't getting in.
Therefore, it isn't strictly impossible for rich men to enter Heaven at all - so long as they are righteous and godly. The problem is that in order to become rich in the first place, you're very likely to have had to engage in some form of sin. So modern understandings of this passage are putting the cart in front of the horse.

>> No.54875081

>>54874260
Yeah, 'kamelos' means sailing cable.

>> No.54875832

>>54874363
You fucking retard, even my descendants and theirs and so on, no one lives forever, no one takes a single thing from this life.
You can call a Jewish scheme if you want but it's also recognition of reality and partly why monotheism has such a hold on people, because it simply recognizes an existing reality whereas tools like you choose to live in a fantasy.

>> No.54875873

>>54874200
No, it means once you have wealth you'll be tempted with all manner of things that will likely get you sent to hell, and it'll be possible for you to participate because you don't have the financial limits of the common man.

Most people's morality is only limited by their options. When you're excessively wealthy, this is no longer the limiting factor.

If you think about it, it's actually a dunk on poor people. Because of financial limitations, they're never really tested morally as much as a wealthy person is.

It's the difference between being someone who does the right thing because they had no choice vs someone who did the right thing even though they could have done the wrong thing, but chose not to.


With this is mind, it's actually possible to be more moral as a wealthy person, and this means being poor is immoral.

>> No.54875916

>>54874333
Simpleton logic
Think of the misery inflicted by lack of money, now imagine passing that onto your family and loved ones.
Building up generational wealth is the greatest gift you can give to your family.
Building up societal wealth is the greatest gift you can give to your community.
Don't be so selfish.

>> No.54875997

>>54875916
You're replying with non sequiturs you moron. The point here is you have no power over what happens to you in the grave.
I'm not against wealth I'm just saying and recognizing it's all futile ultimately.

>> No.54876002

THERE IS NO NOBILITY IN POVERTY

>> No.54876048

>>54874333
Then enjoy it now. Next question.

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>>54874200
Do we not all love money?
What do you think money really is? Understanding it in words is almost impossible. But understanding it in deed, is truly almost impossible. It really is almost beyond the human mind to do so. Even these words are almost incomprehensible.

>> No.54876244

>>54874200
you forgot the last part: but all things are possible, through Christ.

>> No.54876262

>>54876241
>Understanding it in words is almost impossible
its actually really simple. the world operates through DEBT, DEBT is what creates money.

>> No.54876280

>>54876262
Debt is debt, not money. There is an error in our minds.

>> No.54877187

>>54874200
He's not rebuking wealth but saying that wealth will create temptations in your life that will damn you.

>> No.54877252

>>54874200
no idiot, learn how to ride a camel

>> No.54877279

If you're smart enough enough to profit from crime you're smart enough to profit honestly.
True or false?

>> No.54877281

>>54874363
This. Only literal cuc kolds want to give away their hard earned money instead of giving it to their bloodline.

>> No.54877298

>>54877279
False, a crime is specifically made illegal because it's a more appealing (simpler) approach.

>> No.54877302

>>54874200
be as rich as you want but dont expect those riches to follow you to heaven

>> No.54877428

>>54874200
listening to a book of fairy tales, making you pity rich jews because they will have harder time getting into sky disneyland.
kek, stay poor its good for you! Don't envy someone you should pity!

>> No.54877457

>>54874200
>you will own nothing and you will be happy
Was Jesus a WEF member?

>> No.54877458

Planning generations ahead is fucked up and should be made illegal somehow
Like you're going to make a plan that you won't be alive to see wtf

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>>54874837
Jesus is a fictional jewish character from a jewish work of fiction called The Bible. Christianity was invented to destroy the Native European race. I denounce the Talmud and the Torah and Israel has no right to exist.

>> No.54877481

>>54874267
It’s a good point but you act like these occur with the same person simultaneously. People that suffer suffer for years and they don’t even reach a point where they can tbink If themselves as powerful. So if everything is just shitty all the time, or worse, comfortable but miserable, it sure is easy to think God doesn’t really care about you.

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Here's my take on what's going to happen
The wars will escalate, there will be a zombie apocalypse, there will be a genetic engineered antichrist, there will be a one world government, Babylon(New York) will drown,wormwood(Apollo) the asteroid will land on the sea and make it bitter, people will starve, the anti Christ will chip people in exchange for immortality, Israel will expirience an earthquake and a 1/10th if it will fall, they will wish to die for a while, 3/4 of the world will die.
Which part of this sounds far fetched?
Pic related mocks Christianity and wants to make superhumans.

>> No.54878346

>>54874200
What is the next verse after that?

>> No.54878432

>>54877467
Touch grass dear one.

>> No.54878643

>>54874200
>he stops reading after the cherry-picked line
The next couple of lines literally answer your question.

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>>54874200
it is indeed difficult, for many are uncapable of handling money

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>>54879191
We all know spending 100% of your gains on a brand new Lambo is the Chad move. like if you make it and stuff.

>> No.54879265

>>54874304
Epicurus never said that.

>> No.54879272

>>54874200
Jesus is not talking about money, is not literal.
He is talking about the zade (tzadiq) and the zayin

>> No.54879311

>>54876241
Money is an exchange of ideas and hypotheticals based on an underlying assumption that the fundamental nature of our reality precludes any other form of interaction. Jesus balked at this idea and lived in a different way, and everyone now and then has visions of life would be like under a different paradigm, like how Dostoevsky described in his short story The Dreams of a Ridiculous Man.

Stripped bare a human soul is happy only to love and be loved by the Holy Spirit, Logos, Christ, Allah, Brahman, or whatever abstraction you use to refer to the silent entity always right beside you when you're locked in deep introspection. You could happily die of starvation or torture if you hold the love in your heart in the correct manner.

Money at the end of the day is just the misinterpretation and misapplication of love.

>> No.54879314

>>54874200
>What the fuck man should i just be homeless or some shit???
Invest in a woodchipper or blender. Typical Jew trying to sell you on needless household products.

>> No.54879324

Money is how people goad each other into following morals and standards in society. This presents a supreme problem in a society that has decided the only virtue is having money.

>> No.54879351

>>54878432
Have sex incel

>> No.54880896

>>54878432
Post proof of foreskin with timestamp.

>> No.54881198

>>54876241
I don’t love money. I hate it. I love and value freedom. There are two types: spiritual and physical.. physical freedom requires money, because that’s how this planet has been set up. It’s a tool for true freedom to live day to day how you want without slaving and starving.
I chose to end my physical slavery without a safety net because of my belief and confidence in myself - along with being okay dying on the street alone because I’d rather do that than slave and support a disgusting society.
I’ve found I feel better and more accomplished when I help or make someone else happy - sometimes by giving money. I won’t give up my integrity or values for infinite money.
I’ve already proved all these things.
Unfortunately since I want to be able to support a wife and as many babies as possible on my own I have been stuck in despair fighting against the scum of this place waiting for a miracle - or a few

>> No.54881225

>>54877279
False.
The opposite is true actually.
Those who are able to profit dishonestly but then choose NOT to and profit honestly are the ones with real power and intelligence and wisdom.
If you feel the need to set up a scam or take advantage of others you are acknowledging you are a failure and cannot do it on your own, so you have to be a weak scumbag to feel better about your insecurities.

>> No.54881264

>>54874200
How do you know Jesus ever actually said that? Looks like falsification to me to keep the plebs poor.

Think about it. What would be better, to be a poor man of God or a rich man of God? A poor man can do nothing but pray, a rich man can atually use his money and power to change the world for the better.

If you want to serve God, you need to be rich.

>> No.54881318

Good thing im not trying to get rich

>> No.54881474

>>54881264
>Think about it. What would be better, to be a poor man of God or a rich man of God?
He's saying wealth and physical treasures distract men from God. It's an issue with human nature.
>A poor man can do nothing but pray, a rich man can atually use his money and power to change the world for the better.
Accomplished via natural economics.
>If you want to serve God, you need to be rich.
God's consideration of believers' contributions is based on what they were given. A poor man's $50 tithe and prayer for the sick is worth much more than the same of a far wealthier man. Wealth brings responsibility and weight, but all matters of importance are handled by God alone.

>> No.54881683

>>54874200
Christianity is a fake religion designed to enslave you and make you morally weak. The Old Testament tells you to subjugate the Earth and that all things on Earth are for man given to you by God.

>> No.54881752

>>54874363
The Bible literally promises you that whether you do good or bad, it doesn’t make you good or bad. Your worth comes from your creator, who loves you deeply.

>> No.54881833

>>54874200
there's also a verse about having an obligation to provide for your family
this is not le nuclear unit they mean
there's another verse about saving up too
the bible is useless as a guide, even the most hardcore biblebashers admit that as soon as you contradict them with the source material, they immediately switch to talking about another topic like premodern society or the imminent collapse of civilization or other religions or atheism
it's most likely an interest group spamming this content and a couple of fools

>> No.54881868

>>54881833
>there's also a verse about having an obligation to provide for your family
>this is not le nuclear unit they mean
"Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever."
This is in a chapter telling members of the church what should be done with widows. This really isn't hard to understand.
>the bible is useless as a guide, even the most hardcore biblebashers admit that as soon as you contradict them with the source material, they immediately switch to talking about another topic like premodern society or the imminent collapse of civilization or other religions or atheism
Anon, you didn't really support your point.
I'm not even sure what you're saying now. "If you ask a Christian about scripture, he'll deflect"? Is that it? Ask away.

>> No.54881889

>>54881868
no
>if you refute a 'christian' with scripture they'll deflect

>> No.54883852

>>54874356
tipping intensifies
take the booster

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>>54877467
Unfathomly based.