"Future Proof Jobs"

[Anonymous No.548414]

C'mon, let's have em.

[Anonymous No.548416]

That would imply that I can predict the future.

[Anonymous No.548419]

>>548416

Well, try your best.

[Anonymous No.548421]

Doctors.
/end thread

[Anonymous No.548438]

>>548414
elderly care services

[Anonymous No.548439]

>>548414
Programmer
Mechanic
Doctor
Lawyer
Gardener

[Anonymous No.548461]

>>548439

Dude, fucking none of those. I'm sorry.

[Anonymous No.548467]

CPA.

Someones got to sign their name on the automated books.

[Anonymous No.548474]

http://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/downloads/academic/The_Future_of_Employment.pdf

[Anonymous No.548476]

>>548414
Security Guards.

Someones gotta do it.

[Anonymous No.548490]

>>548461

prove him wrong

computers will always require programmers

mechanical devices (like airplanes, trucks or ships) will always require maintenance

people will always require medical care

the government will always require lawyers for everything, even when they don't people will want one

gardens will still need to be cleaned up

[Anonymous No.548501]

>>548490

Rules engines have been in development under IBM for years now, and are aimed at replacing the need for computer programmers, generating code rather than having a developer create it.

The rest of the jobs will likely be automated to an extent, making it harder for people to clamour for the remaining forms of employment left. Automated health monitoring services will cut out the amount of doctors needed, logic engines will start determining sentences and justice for small forms of crime, and the only people who'll be able to afford dedicated gardeners in the future will be the 0.1%.

[Anonymous No.548507]

>>548421

>ACA
>Indians
>robotics

nope.

[Anonymous No.548509]

>>548476

>sentry bots


try again

[Anonymous No.548519]

>>548501

>Rules engines have been in development under IBM for years now, and are aimed at replacing the need for computer programmers, generating code rather than having a developer create it.

and what does IBM do now? They're a consulting company that does legacy mainframe/server work

>The rest of the jobs will likely be automated to an extent, making it harder for people to clamour for the remaining forms of employment left.

wrong, all these new "automation" requires technicians, who are pretty well paid. Arguably more jobs are made because people see five separate technicians for MRIs, x-rays, blood tests, etc. now instead of just going to a single doctor

>Automated health monitoring services will cut out the amount of doctors needed

see above

> logic engines will start determining sentences and justice for small forms of crime

lol, fuck no. That's not how bureaucracy works, nor how it will ever work. Right now I still need the DMV to fucking mail me a DL-44 because it has to have a signature on it, likewise court hearings must be done by lawfully elected human Judges, and people before them have a right to a human lawyer and human jury of his peers. The entire reason fax machines are still around are because Courthouses and Hospitals cannot email certain forms, specifically liability waivers and other things that require a signature. Point is, even if the tech did exist - which it doesn't, it's not going to be implemented ether due to incompetence, unconstitutionality or red tape.

>and the only people who'll be able to afford dedicated gardeners in the future will be the 0.1%.

I didn't realize Jose and Pablo down by the home depot were Unionized

tl;dr, you haven't proven anything

[Anonymous No.548525]

>>548501
>generating code rather than having a developer create it
This will NEVER be possible, literally like saying we're going to have skynet within any reasonable timeframe.

The knowledge and logic that programming gives you is 100% worth it.

[Anonymous No.548534]

>>548519
Not true, a single technician could repair several bots at a time, and one diagnostic robot could roll through hundreds of patients a day.

If/when automation starts to enter more workplaces we will experience a paradigm shift in society where we will somehow have to deal with the incredible lack of jobs. In all honestly I think we are not ready for that level of automation and it should be avoided until society can handle it. If we did it now we would fall apart, no one would have money.

[Anonymous No.548537]

>>548534
>Not true, a single technician could repair several bots at a time, and one diagnostic robot could roll through hundreds of patients a day.
Yes, but either those bots are expensive to make, so the production will employ a lot of people, or they are dirt cheap to make, which means you'll start producing a shitload of them, and thus employ people anyway.

>I think we are not ready for that level of automation
Good think we're nowhere near it then.

Besides, what we really care about, once our basic needs are filled, is status. If manufactured products and services become so cheap everyone can afford them, then status symbol will become exclusively scarce things.

And you know what robots and automated factory lines SUCK at producing? Yeah, scarcity.

[Anonymous No.548538]

>>548525
Depends.

Some people like to overplay the capabilities of rule engines and similar expert systems, conflating the idea with proper AI. That's inaccurate, of course, since it's less a question of replacing the design work, and more a question of automating some portion of the grunt work. Error checking of code, for instance, is getting steadily better, as testing for weird edge cases becomes easier to automate.

Nominally, having toolkit features that reduce the need for gruntwork will also reduce the amount of man-hours needed on an arbitrary task, so people like to say 'therefore unemployment'... and that's at least plausible. However, it's more likely that certain tasks will get easier, and the same size team will be able to handle a larger project quicker.

[Anonymous No.548544]

>>548534

>and one diagnostic robot could roll through hundreds of patients a day.

and that one bot needs to be operated and monitored by a licensed technician at all times

there is not an instance where you can fully automate medical tech, if only for insurance/liability reasons

>If/when automation starts to enter more workplaces we will experience a paradigm shift in society where we will somehow have to deal with the incredible lack of jobs

>IF

> In all honestly I think we are not ready for that level of automation and it should be avoided until society can handle it. If we did it now we would fall apart, no one would have money.

and we won't have said automation, especially when the world population is so high. Why go through the effort of buying a bot and a licensed operator and repairman when you can just hire a third worlder to do the job? The industrial revolution itself happened partially because of the black plague killing half the population and forcing crude mechanical automation into the workplace because it became economical to do so

I suggest you stop reading sci-fi novels, because we've effectively had automation for a long time in the US and so far immigration and outsourcing has done more to destroy the middle class/wages than anything else.

[Anonymous No.548548]

>>548544
im sorry but there are already thousands of automated machines replacing humans without operators. But even if they do need one, the one machine and operator replaces like 30 humans.

Does your roomba need an engineer or operator? Nope.

[Anonymous No.548549]

>>548548

>im sorry but there are already thousands of automated machines replacing humans without operators

like? Give examples. Most I can think of is manufacturing, but the "automation" that occurred happened in the 1800s with the adoption of steam engines over manual labor, in the modern day most factories that come back to the US create many jobs especially in support staff working at suppliers.

>Does your roomba need an engineer or operator?

and nobody owns a roomba, despite being over a decade old at this point. Why would I pay $400+ for something that I can pay a mexican $100 to do or that I can do myself with a normal $50 vaccum

[Anonymous No.548551]

>>548414

Plumbing.

[Anonymous No.548552]

>>548548
Roomba will never be able to clean my house, not in my lifetime. Robotics would have to become ridiculously cheap.

[Anonymous No.548654]

>>548414

>Health Inspector (me)

>mfw even people who "hate government' demand health inspectors
>mfw one of the core aspects of any government is to protect public health
>mfw work in public and private fields
>mfw licensed
>mfw working on MPH (easy peasy)
>mfw started at 60k with bachelor's for 40 hour weeks
>mfw gonna cap out at 130k as admin
>mfw haven't even explored private industry
>mfw my job has unlimited overtime

Took a couple years to get in but fuck I did not fuck that up

[Anonymous No.548682]

Management consultant

[Anonymous No.548693]

>>548414
Janitors.

[Anonymous No.548709]

>>548682
That's true. Fraudsters will be around forever.

>>548501
Who the fuck do you think is writing the code that generates the code you fucking idiot? Even if you start having programs writing programs, someone has to write the program that's going to do it. Also if you know jack all about programming, you know that only the lowest level code monkey jobs will ever be automated anyway, and those jobs are outsourced to Indians working $10/hr already.

[Anonymous No.548711]

>>548693
But don't the do it for free?

[Anonymous No.548720]

>worrying about bots producing code
>not worrying about Indians producing code cheaper than bots

[Anonymous No.548784]

>>548709
>Outsource to Indians
>Pay them $10/hour

That's not how outsourcing works. You do it so you can pay them order(s) of magnitude lower wages than you'd have to where you're currently located.

>>548720
>Thinking you'd actually be able to use the Indian produced code for anything.

We used to have some of our coding outsourced to India but now have a completely inhouse development team because it's CHEAPER than outsourcing your coding to Indian monkeys through a consulting company that takes a huge cut and then you still have to spend hundreds of hours to figure out how the fuck the code is written, realise that it's not even close to production ready, redirect the Indian shit to /dev/null and start from scratch with the inhouse team.

[Anonymous No.548790]

Anything in energy or mining. So geologists

[Anonymous No.548802]

The ONLY REAL future proof job is Undertaker.

They always will be needed

[Anonymous No.548807]

The guy who makes the robots that put other people out of work

[Anonymous No.548809]

>>548519

You are talking about trial lawyers which are small fraction of all the lawyers. A lot of bread and butter law jobs are being eliminated by legalzoom and such, not to mention thr fact that lawyer job market is already extremely over saturated

[Anonymous No.548813]

>>548414
The future proof jobs are the ones that will be in high demand when you enter the job market. Unless you are in high school, chances are these will be more or less the same as the job in high (or increasing) demand today.

Your main goal will be to be employed immediately when you get into the job market. After a few years of experience, you don't need to worry anymore as you will be able to switch jobs and possibly move to a new field because by then you are a trained professional.

What you absolutely must avoid is look for a position for months, return to school or linger in college, and start juggling with macjob. If you go that route, you are guaranteed to be crippled for the rest of your career.

[Anonymous No.548829]

Automation replacing is a profession is a poor way of looking at it. Really it is not replacing but increasing the productive capacity of professionals. What used to take ten accountants now takes three and will soon take one. Those replaced will be free to pursue other more important and useful professions.

[Anonymous No.548950]

>>548802

Not once Soylent Green hits the shelves.

[Anonymous No.548952]

>>548802
they get paid tonnes already too

[Anonymous No.548991]

prostitute of some kind
Muh human experience and shit

[Anonymous No.548997]

stand-up comedian
actor
artist
designer
hitman
thief
prostitute
priest
motivational speaker
political figure
therapist

[Anonymous No.550124]

>>548991
>implying you won't get replaced by a sexbot with a super-soft polymer high frequency vibrating pussy

[Anonymous No.550139]

>>548997

cgi could replace actors. bots could replace hitmen. sex bots/simulators could replace prostitutes. Religion could become outdated.
Art is dead already.

The rest might hold up.

[Anonymous No.550142]

>>550139
any good director would never replace actors with cgi, not to mention, it will always be cheaper to hire actors than produce cgi

art, expression, will never die, friend

[Anonymous No.550149]

>>550142
>art, expression, will never die, friend
A.I. might replace it, hopefully never

[Anonymous No.550152]

>>550142
>art, expression, will never die, friend

It has and will continue to.

[Anonymous No.550155]

>>550139
>Art is dead already

>being this edgy

Tell that art is dead already to the next hollywood hit, the next kind of music that will be successful in less than 5 years, the next best-seller or the next painting that makes you say "wow", the next anime you'll gonna watch, the next hentai you're going to fap to, the next... (ad infinitum)

[Anonymous No.550158]

>>548421
you mean surgeons, because diagnosis/treatment will be done by big data analytics, better than any GP/specialist out there

[Anonymous No.550161]

>>550155
>fapping to hentai
>post 2007
Enjoy your pixels, faggot.

[Anonymous No.550166]

>>550161
>Enjoy your pixels, faggot.

I really, really, really, really, really do.

[Anonymous No.550197]

>>548414
Manufacturer of insulated timepieces.

>future proof

[Anonymous No.550213]

>>550155
Fine art, not pulp fiction trash. Modern fine art is not selling as well, and hasn't been for the nearly two decades now.

I'm old, only comment on /biz/ not /b/, don't care about your Japanese cartoons, but I know the rest of you weeboos on here just love that shit.

[Anonymous No.550217]

>>550142
The sales can dry up, and they almost have.

[Anonymous No.550230]

>>550158
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robotic_surgery

[Anonymous No.550259]

Stats
Applied maths

[Anonymous No.550306]

Civil engineering
Aerospace engineering
Theoretical engineering

[Anonymous No.550326]

>>548414
Specific but electrical officers in the maritime industry aren't going to be replaced for quite a while.
Decent prospects for someone starting out.

[Anonymous No.550353]

Nursing.

No robot will ever replace bedside nursing.

[Anonymous No.550358]

Politician

[Anonymous No.550361]

Welder/fabricator


>implying robotics can produce quality and timely results like this while handling the intricacies of fabricating giant steel structures, pressure vessels and industrial equipment

Prove me wrong faggots.
>implying they can do it cheaper than $40/hour

[Anonymous No.550373]

>>548829
What are you supposed to do with 9 accountants?

[Anonymous No.550377]

>>550361

>implying they can do it cheaper than $40/hour

Just a matter of time.

[Anonymous No.550378]

>>550373
Approximate the value of a lightbulb

[Anonymous No.550387]

>>550377
Nah, the amount and variation (and special cases) of tasks that the average tradesman performs on a day to day basis is insane.

Nigga, ASIMO can't even walk down the stairs without full on spaghetti.

How do you expect a robot to climb on gigantic iron girders and in other inaccessible places, hold awkwardly shaped pieces of metal in place and then manipulate an electrode to join the metal together in a sound fashion?

Lastly, how do you build a robot that will do all this cheaper than some redneck high-school dropout?

This could easily apply to other trades like electrician, plumber, etc

[Anonymous No.550394]

>>550387

Again, matter of time. I don't expect it to be soon, but it will happen

[Anonymous No.550440]

>>550387

The infrastructure will change, there's no need for awkward tools and places.

[Anonymous No.550550]

>>548414
upscale nightclub bartender
>inb4 "ur a tard xDDDD"
When everyone's flooded with cheap robotic interaction, human service workers will begin to produce a sort of nostalgia for human interactions.

[Anonymous No.550553]

>>550550

Are you pretty? Do you have lucious titties? No? Then go back to the salt mines, peasant. Oh wait, robots are doing that already - better killself instead

[Anonymous No.550555]

>>548534
All those robots will require engineer's, services, products, parts, mechanics. Automation will open new fields of jobs.

[Anonymous No.550558]

lawyers

[Anonymous No.550560]

I just put a computer in this place that has been using a paper accounting system since the 1950's. My work there is very secure. Pay is bad though.

[Anonymous No.550561]

>>550553
>there's only appeal for female service workers
Politics will probably stay human dominated too, just because robots would be better at it doesn't mean that's what people want.

[Anonymous No.550578]

>>550561

What other jobs can you think of that will still be available? President of the US? Emperor of the World?

[Anonymous No.550583]

>>548421
kek docs were shown to be worse than computers at diagnosing illnesses.

[Anonymous No.550618]

>>550578
Most or all political offices, prostitution, business owners, doormen, various other service jobs, engineering jobs.

Robits ain't gon' do shit

[Anonymous No.550619]

>>550618

So lords, servants, and inventors who will come with more novel ways to replace the servants

[Anonymous No.550626]

>>550619
Exactly! And pioneers on other worlds who don't have the means to automatize everything

[Anonymous No.550739]

Midwife

[Anonymous No.550760]

Space mechanic for when they ships go haywire and kill their crews

[Anonymous No.551037]

>>548501
>robolawyers when?

[Anonymous No.551055]

Engineers
Scientist

Engineers and scientist jobs are to breakthrough and innovate. Creating something out of nothing. Robots automations cant do those shit, and technology will never be in "perfect" state where we will stop innovating

[Anonymous No.551137]

>>550139
>Religion could become outdated.
Your faith in humanity disgusts me.

[Anonymous No.551166]

>>548525
My father was a kepunch operator then a computer operator then a computer analyst then a programmer- he says they had massive job losses every step of the way and he sees it continuing into programming with much easier languages and self programming computers

[Anonymous No.551198]

Servicing old people is the immediate growing job market

[Anonymous No.551333]

Accountant

BOOM!

/thread

[Anonymous No.551362]

Sales will always be important.

No matter how good your digital marketing strategy is you will always need a warm body to go in and close the deal.

[Anonymous No.551489]

soldier

[Anonymous No.551490]

Cartoon porn animator. I only got into this business because no one else would fucking animate what i want to see.

[Anonymous No.551579]

>>548414
Funeral Director

[Anonymous No.551581]

>>551490
Yo dude someone needs to make more Wakfu porn, I can fap to that ZONE animation only so many times.

[Dr Strangelove No.551711]

Is being Swedish a job?

here take a read http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/11219688/Ten-million-jobs-at-risk-from-advancing-technology.html

>>551490
There was a manga artist called shirow masamune, who came up with the awesome series that inspired the matrix, now spends his time drawing hentai I believe, its a sad story.

>>551581
doesnt wakfu have a fairly clever economy, showing the laws of diminishing returns and suchlike?

[Anonymous No.551846]

A lot of service jobs are laughed at now but will be needed in the future the most, as it's the direction we're heading in now.
>inb4 but muh robots
Emotional work and hospitality is one thing humans will always be better at than robots.

[Anonymous No.552555]

>>550361
Not to discredit that lovely stack of dimes there, but eventually, yes, robots will be able to provide better, cheaper, and more efficient results. With less liability to the company owner as well.

Imagine a small robot, the size of say a 20-lb propane tank, that can crawl into spaces you can't, climb up structures without ladders or scaffolding, which can weld at a consistent, steady rate, monitor it's own feed rate of solder as it welds, and act as it's own ground.

You never have to pay it sick days, vacation time, no unions... sound good to me.

[Anonymous No.552562]

>>548467
This. Accounting is consulting and regulation essentially. Somebody always has to be liable to regulate these companies.

[Anonymous No.552677]

Do you guys really think the number of CPA jobs is going to increase in the future? I know CPA's are needed to audit shit and so that someone can be made liable for any mistakes that are made, but seriously 90% of their job could be done completely automated by computer software

[Anonymous No.552713]

>>551581
Can't do wakfu, they are extremely protective of their IP after the whole debocle with zone. Basically some retard was reuploading wakfu images/games with his sites tag making it look "offical wakfu". This lead to a ton of DMCA/C&D to rule34, zone, ex, etc, so now everyone stays the hell away from wakfu.

[Anonymous No.552781]

>>548501
>he thinks computers will generate a programs amount of code

[Anonymous No.552846]

>>548414
Priest

[Anonymous No.552870]

Prostitutes
>implying sex bots

[Anonymous No.552880]

GIS Analysts

[Anonymous No.553185]

>>548509
Robots can't fully replace security guards unless they also have human-like artificial intelligence.

Unless you're talking about America where guards don't seem to do anything except sit on their asses. That's not how it is in my country.

[Anonymous No.553633]

Logistics.

[Anonymous No.553646]

Barber/Hairstylist

[Anonymous No.553791]

>>552677
Guess how I know you didnt study accounting.

This is what I though in my very first accounting class.
>This is stupid! Why cant a computer do this?
Everybody would ask this everyday and the teacher would say
>Yes, computers can do this, I am teaching you bookkeeping, the basics to accounting, the stuff I am teaching you is done by non college educated people entering receipts into peachtree or other accounting software.

Accounting is a huge field, the best wall street analysts are accountants. The side of accounting I am involved in is more closely related to law and I am considering going to law school if I can get into a top 10 (goosebumps thinking about having a MBA, MAC, CPA, and a JD on my resume).

Accountants are more investigators than anything. You are basically seeing if people arent purposely lying and trying to mislead you. People are smart, they can manipulate the computing software to show better numbers unchecked. An accountant is either doing the fooling or uncovering it. Sometimes you will need to actually go to the warehouse of the company you are auditing to check if the reported inventory is correct.

The IRS revenue officers will purposely try to come to your home or office in person to see what kind of lifestyle you live and see if your reported tax return matches up with what they can see.
>"Thats a nice picture of you and the family mr. ___, crazy how you could afford that while owing 35k in payroll taxes."

I personally plan out tax strategies which cant be done with any computer software. It takes meeting with clients, seeing their financials, asking their goals and making a strategy. It cant be done by plugging it into a computer.

Accounting will be here forever. Bookkeeping jobs however are always in danger. Accountants analyze data and are the only private profession responsible to the public. No computer can do it, or would be assigned to liability of doing it

[Anonymous No.553794]

>>553791
Additionally accountants are largely consultants. When a company is audited, the accountants will understand the company's financial health better than the company itself. They will issue their review and offer advice to management.

Accounting has lots of tricks. Investors are contantly fooled by internal audit.
>"Wow! Delta's Net revenue increased so much this year! what a great buy!"
>An accountant would tell you that in reality, Delta actually suffered serious blows to revenue streams and just decided to extend the estimated useful life of their airplane fleet which results in a higher NI for the year.

Accountants are everything that is financial. As long as there is investing, accountants will be the most important part of the whole system.

[Anonymous No.553795]

What's the best trade job?

Plumbing or HVAC? Maybe construction?

[Anonymous No.553966]

>implying there are ANY
I, personally can't wait for all the 'jobs' do be done by machines. Humans deserve to pursue fulfilling activities.

[Anonymous No.553978]

>>553795
Construction (although when recessions happen, this isn't so great).
Electrician.

[Anonymous No.553991]

>>548414

Engineer
Writer
Entertainer
Professionally playing sports
Doctor and Nurse (you can always find places where they don't have a robo-doc handy)

also

>>553978
> Electrician

[Anonymous No.553997]

>rap
>play basketball
>sell crack

[Anonymous No.554075]

>>548414
Customer Service jobs. There is always a problem with someone's billing/credit card, TV service, you name it. Most people also prefer talking to a live person than figuring it out by themselves on the Internet.

[Anonymous No.554085]

>>553795

I know a plumber in Columbus Ohio that makes $80,000 a year, 24 years old. He's my neighbor. His rent is $400 + utilities. He said he's technically a "partner" at his company, so he gets taxed as an employer/business owner, not as a salary, therefore is taxed less. He leases a Range Rover and gets a tax credit on it because he technically needs it for work, even though the company has a van. He probably keeps over $50,000 a year after taxes and expenses, he's really modest. I envy the fucking shit out of him, but I'm about to graduate college and i'll have to work like 5-7 years to get that income

[Anonymous No.554111]

>>554085
Just live with your parents until you buy a home, don't rent

[Anonymous No.554148]

>>554111
But don't be a pleb and stay with them till you're 28+

By that time just rent...and whatever you do don't take out a mortgage in the still overinflated U.S. housing market, presuming that's where you live. Although Europe's housing markets are even frothier in some of the countries*
*Disaster known as Greece not included.

[Anonymous No.554247]

>>548538
>Finally sees testing post after 4 years
>It's incorrect

Pure automated testing is improving for unit testing, yes, but proper test management or procedure will never be automated. Decision/statement coverage will become fully automated soon enough, but for the likes of SIT, CIT, and especially UAT, the human element is needed. By definition, UAT and OAT cannot be automated.

Can't speak for the development side, that's not my forte.

[Anonymous No.554262]

>>553791

>Sometimes you will need to actually go to the warehouse of the company you are auditing to check if the reported inventory is correct.

>sometimes

[Anonymous No.554271]

>>553794

this

Some easy shit you can find in financial statements of publically traded companies

>Customer invoice value at 3-4 months of turnover

>inventory value at 3-4 months of turnover

>massive increase in fixed assets without turnover increase


Cash flow analysis is a better measurement of a company that income statement

[Anonymous No.554279]

>>554271

This is also why accounting is better than finance, at finance and why the market price of a stock is not it's inherent value.

Finance takes everything at face value because it doesn't understand the process that creates the reported value

[Anonymous No.554557]

>>548501
You must be one of those people who things programmers are like magicians and it's only a matter of time until they make you a magic wand that can make infinite magic wands.

I actually kind of envy your ignorant bliss.

[Anonymous No.555337]

>>552880
Was just going through this thread seeing if anyone was aware this was a thing/is doing GIS.

Happy "Geography Awareness Week", everyone

[Anonymous No.555388]

>>548414
capital owner

[Anonymous No.555399]

>>550387
>Nigga, ASIMO can't even walk down the stairs without full on spaghetti.

apex kek

[Anonymous No.555400]

These automation threads always make me chuckle. Bitch, I'm the guy who automates things. I work 10 times faster than my co-workers and with better accuracy.

The efficiency of capital only increases the product of labor.

You think Mcdonalds is going to fire half their workforce because a burger machine does their job better? Fuck no. They'll just open twice as many stores.

[Anonymous No.555505]

>>555400
What you don't consider, is at some point there is market saturation. Eventually every fucking block of a city has a McDonalds. And then they need to be cut back because some don't get enough business to be functional.

[Anonymous No.555543]

How about 3D CGI master degree + bechelor in classic art Academy degree and living in Berlin ?

How long until I am replaced by indian or bots or both

[Anonymous No.555549]

>>555543

Never.

Make niche 3D porn, build up fanbase, get commissions from weirdo fucks with disgusting fetishes through crowdsourcing websites, 800k a year and hate yourself.

[Anonymous No.555555]

>>550139
>bots could replace hitmen

and you'll be able to find these cyborg killer services in the yellow pages? until taking someone else's life is legal and morally accepted you'll have to find someone who's willing to ignore that ethical/legal barrier. most of us aren't willing or capable. that's what you're paying a hitman for, whether he does it with his bare hands or has a hitmanbot 3000 do it for him.

the point of the list is to show stuff with human element to it is more future-proof than any scientific or mechanical field (obviously nothing's forever). you completely missed the point.

[Anonymous No.555556]

>>555555

Niiice.

[Anonymous No.555562]

>>551166
big surprise, nobody needs PASCAL coders anymore

doctors must keep recent on new methods
lawyers must keep recent on new laws/cases
even the damn gardener will need to know about new chemicals sometimes maybe

[Anonymous No.555568]

>>555555

[Anonymous No.555569]

>>548439
>Lawyer

kek

[Anonymous No.555580]

>>555555

oh my god

[Anonymous No.555588]

>>555555

[Anonymous No.555597]

>>555569

Fun fact: law is written by lawyers

They'll make damn sure that it's complex enough.

Trust me, I'm a lawyer.

[Anonymous No.555602]

>>551711
>There was a manga artist called shirow masamune, who came up with the awesome series that inspired the matrix, now spends his time drawing hentai I believe, its a sad story.

Masaki Kajishima the guy who created the Tenchi Muyo series does a shitload off hentai doujins for cash.

[Anonymous No.555628]

>>555602
>Tenchi Muyo
How did that inspire The Matrix?

[Anonymous No.555636]

>>555555

[Anonymous No.555657]

>>553185
Depends on what you mean
Basically what you need is a certain key that you can input into the bots so they deactivate or go harmless when you need them to
and they get "hostile" when the key is out
and I don't mean a literal key, and I'm not thinking like physical bots that stand or float near doors and stop people from going in
I mean just like a camera in the corner of the room that doesn't let people in unless you have the right key
and automatically alerts someone, the police, if enough shit goes down
the physical sentries come later when we can develop drones with turrets

[Anonymous No.555776]

>>555555
what a waste of a get

[Anonymous No.555801]

>>555555

[Anonymous No.555821]

>>555337
Am aspiring to be one myself. Trying to get into environmental consulting and the like with it.

Cheers!

[Anonymous No.555822]

>>550158
lol nope

[Anonymous No.555907]

>>555822
I bet you're a GP.

[Anonymous No.555951]

>>548654
What degree do you need for that?

[Anonymous No.556114]

>ctrl+f "baker"
>0 results

It's like you all make your own bread.

There'll always be need for fresh bread.

[Anonymous No.556116]

>>556114
>Yea wonderbread needs tons of bakers

[Anonymous No.556122]

>>556116

Shit I forgot we're talking Western market. Although not everyone is happy to consume factory-produced bread.

How's business for family owned bakeries in the US?

Here (Bosnia), only a dumbass could ruin a bakery business. Although our market is also being invaded by malls as of few years back.

[Anonymous No.556220]

>>555657
Again, you need human-like AI to fully replace security guards. That goes for many seemingly simple jobs. Don't think that just because something is working class and poorly paid that it's easy to automate.

A place I work at recently had a situation where a homeless guy had slept overnight in the public bathroom, and he needed to be removed. So we called security and they came and escorted him out. Now try making a bot that can do that.

[Anonymous No.556389]

>>553633
What are "logistics"? what do logistic majors do?

[Anonymous No.556395]

>>556122
Is that why you have so many Albanians running ice cream shops and bakeries?

[Anonymous No.556396]

>>556389
import/export and the like.

[Anonymous No.556404]

>>556389
Movement of goods, services too. Trucking firms to ocean shipping lines, to putting together the whole plan on how to get all the needed parts and employees needed to get an oil rig together, ie Halliburton, logistics and oil services.

[Anonymous No.556419]

>>556395

No those are just fronts to launder money from their drugs and hookers operations

[Anonymous No.556420]

>>556396
>>556404
Is it profitable? How do I get a job in logistics? Do I get a major in logistics? Sorry but I've tried to look this up before and can't find any straightforward answers

[Anonymous No.556427]

>>556420
It's about like a cross between accounting and engineering. Lots of rules and entry work of accounting, but without the easy transferability into other careers.

It's a big field, as I point out, a trucking firm from Iowa could, and many do, call them logistics firms. Then there are the managers of oil service firms that can say they're in logistics operations as well.

So you could end up making a lot or little. I'm not sure any school is going to teach 'logistics' as a separate major. but google turns up Supply Chain and Logistics Management degree so...

[Anonymous No.556437]

>>548414
Seriously comp sci/math jobs

Software dev, web dev, database management, research, hardware, bug fixes, IT, OS dev, apps, etc...

From now til the end of time there will be computers and 99.9% of the population doesn't know shit about how they work.

If you're good, programming is like a super-power.

[Anonymous No.556441]

Electric Engineer (studying to become one btw). You niggas always gonna need dem niggawats.

[Anonymous No.556466]

>>555569

Lawyers will be cut to an extent and the level of expertise required for the role will inevitably fall as more is outsourced or automated, but the role of a litigator or solicitor with bearable fees will have a place for at least another century

[Anonymous No.556511]

>>556420
Not sure where you are but Kangan Batman offers Logistics certs & diplomas. I have a cert III because I'm an impoverished plebian shitkicker but you can attain all kinds of practical and theoretical qualifications there.

[Anonymous No.556624]

>>556419

Well when you think about it they do keep expanding and getting richer but a rarity of people actually buy their products.

[Anonymous No.556744]

>>548654
how did you get into that anon? share your story

[Anonymous No.557429]

>>553794

>Accountants are everything that is financial. As long as there is investing, accountants will be the most important part of the whole system.

This. If the business world could be described as the ecosystem then accounts would be the trees; numerous, taken for granted but serve many functions that are essential for the survival of the environment.

[Anonymous No.557438]

>>548414

People to stock shelves because robots and the guys to fix the robots are more expensive.

[Anonymous No.557442]

>>556466
>Lawyers will be cut to an extent and the level of expertise required for the role will inevitably fall as more is outsourced or automated

What do you base this on?

[Anonymous No.557444]

>>550152
oh my god shut up you whiny little faggot

[Anonymous No.557449]

CAD draphtsperson

[Anonymous No.557455]

>>552555
so then where does it all lead to when this kind of automation takes over most industries?

[Anonymous No.557506]

>>555555
>implying you won't be able to donate 3 million dollars to blackwater's low income family charity organization if they have one of their stealth drones accidentally has it's ai go insane and go kill the guy you dislike

[Anonymous No.557514]

>>552555
>>548507
>>548807
>>557438

>muh robots

Robots won't be a real factor for the duration of your entire work life. Only the simplest manual labor will be affected.

And even then, if we ever do reach the point where even healthcare personnel can be replaced by robots, it will be the beginning of a new era where having a job will be optional. Because you know - robots will be doing most of the work.

>muh indians

SKILLED laborers and specialists in developing countries are fairly well compensated already. And the general cost of living as well as the wage levels in most developing countries are on a steep rise. They will catch up eventually.

Just do whatever you are passionate about. Then you'll have enough motivation to work your way to the top of that field.

[Anonymous No.557542]

>>548414


Did anyone know what "apps" were in 2004?

The answer is no for most people...

Does anyone know what will be the next "apps" in 2024?

The answer is no, but it will create a new field of work for millions..

Innovation always happens, there will always been new products that require a new field of study, new employees, etc....

We will never have a point where everyone is out of work, that is not what history has shown us when we improve the technology that increases production and efficiency

[Anonymous No.557686]

>>555628
You read this wrong somehow; Masamune created The Ghost in the Shell, and the original film was a major inspiration for the Matrix along with a good smorgashboard of philosophy and I forget what else. I preferred the GITS series to the movie though.

Its not really surprising - Japan is more technically advanced, so I suppose their films and anime relating to tech themes are in turn, better fleshed out.

Its like in europe, britain we say what happens in america will soon occur here, especially in social trends, these are easier to spot after all.

[Anonymous No.557698]

>>555951
Public Health maybe?
>>556122
Do you have rye bread? In England we have shitty soft white bread that's like foam and sticks to your mouth. I tried my friends Polish bread and my eyes were opened, extra protein makes it nice and firm, and quite a bit cheaper anyway.
>>556466
>Lawyers will be cut to an extent
Whyso, are you talking Gov lawyers or what? Damn I do hate lawyers though, they don't produce anything, mainly leech businesses et al.

>>557455
Not sure I want to think about this too hard.

>>557506
Just pay immigrants? probs wouldnt do the job though, and neither would blackwater, why would they follow through? - American Hustle

>>557514
>Only the simplest manual labour will be affected

Average IQ thus increases? A brave new world?>>557542
the point is that people have to work less hard as technology advances?

>>556220
wheeled dustbin with a cattle prod is a fairly good motivator, if the situaltion is other than just patrollign a remote operator takes over and gives the dude tasering/ net trap / immobilisation foam Google are getting into robotics, business plan seemingly based on the Terminator movies.
- True story, nerds in the 60's watched star trek, decided to invent the mobile phones and etc. showed therein.


Datamining / data sci are the most zeitgeisty tech jobs.

>>550158
This is actually correct, computers certainly can assist diagnostics, when a machine won the game show Jeopardy, this was proved.

robotics can assist surgeons, but probably not replace, with it, remote surgery is possible though.

[Anonymous No.557699]

>>557698
Apologies for my awful splurging here, on reflection I really need some sleep right now.

[Anonymous No.557710]

>>551846
>Emotional work and hospitality is one thing humans will always be better at than robots.

HMM, Maybe the autist programmers and lawyers that we will inevitably evolve into will prefer robots.

Now there's a profound thought for you! I really have to get around to watching Metropolis.

[Anonymous No.557715]

Anyone think Education as a career will be in decline? Ipads have been shown a fantastic aid to teaching numeracy. about 50% of time in school is spent waiting. only ppl in poor countries appreciate it to be honest.
Nothing makes me sad like unfulfilled potential.

Remote learning / online uni courses could become the norm, increased interactivity in them would help, use skype etc to network with other students.

- KhanAcademy on youtube is the small beacon of hope amongst all the ADHD blight,

Ok well maybe I cant hate Vlogbrothers

[Get rekt No.557724]

SELLLING THAT SWEET WEED AND DANKY TABS BRAHH, DRUG DEALER FOR LYFE$$$$

[Anonymous No.557846]

>>557686
I think you're vastly overstating the importance of GITS, especially when compared directly with Morrison's the Invisibles

[Anonymous No.557854]

Engineers.

I am one. I am invincible.

[Anonymous No.557862]

>>557698
you're right, blackwater prob wouldn't follow through if they already had legal possession of the money

[Anonymous No.557867]

>>557715
Not as long as piece of papers exist.

Why would you take a self taught guy who took online classes on khan academy when you can take a guy who took classes at a university and needs to pay back tens of thousands of dollars? One is more reliable than the other.

[Anonymous No.557940]

>>557686
Japan isn't more technically advanced mate. Well in the field of consumer electronics, it's just that the Japanese have more access to it.

[Anonymous No.557958]

>>548414
Human Resources

[Anonymous No.557960]

>>557940
Seconding this. You can't even pay with cards in most stores.

[Anonymous No.557999]

>>555597

So how many months ago did you get your TTT diploma? Or are you till a 2L?

Son, laws are written by congressmen and lobbyists, not some toileteer with a worthless JD. You might as well tell people to get an MBA because there are a lot of CEO jobs to fill

[Anonymous No.558006]

>>556437
comp sci and math? yea no, it is not easy to learn but that it doesnt mean it wont be outsourced, it actually is super easily outsourced since math is the universal language.

Indians will be getting all programming jobs, Japanese will be getting your math contract work.

[Anonymous No.558009]

>>557867
true, but look ahead, even in vermont during the gubernatorial debate, they debated a method of gaining certification through testing instead of having to sit through 4 years of university.

The military has been playing around with this idea as well, they arguably train their guys better than alot of academic programs but the military training doesnt give a private sector type of certification.

My online masters of accounting courses are just the teacher assigning readings, i am essentially teaching myself and researching through easily accessed online material. Why couldnt I just take a certification test to get the masters since I could be just doing this on my own and basically am.

[Anonymous No.558034]

>>548414
Own a mid-long transport company.
We are still far away from being able to transport physical objects by any other way

[Anonymous No.558035]

you rednecks realise that once all of the jobs are gone its party time right?

It means we're literally free, and can spend our entire lives partying like we have always wanted to...

every day will be a weekend,

everyday will be have sex with your pleasure robot, then plug into VR gangbang orgy world right?

[Anonymous No.558039]

>>555400
no, they will fire all of the workers except the machine maintenance guys, then continue rapid expansion.

There is already 0 need for anyone to be employed in a mcdonalds store.

there are already cleaning robots, talking robots, burger flipping robots and delivery drones.

[Anonymous No.558356]

>>558009

>The military has been playing around with this idea as well, they arguably train their guys better than alot of academic programs but the military training doesnt give a private sector type of certification.

The military likes to claim this but it simply isn't true. The reality is that the military trains people their way and to maintain their own system but the training and job experience is not on par with what's expected in the civilian sector.

[Anonymous No.558377]

>>558039

>no, they will fire all of the workers except the machine maintenance guys, then continue rapid expansion.

except those maintenance people are more expensive than an army of min wage workers

>there are already cleaning robots, talking robots, burger flipping robots and delivery drones.

so you're delusional? As far as I'm aware self-cleaning bathrooms and trashcans do not exist, nor do commercial delivery drones. The only "automated" jobs in a mcdonalds are the grill workers and cashiers, but even then it's not cost effective when the min wage is so low

[Anonymous No.558382]

>picking a job just because it pays well and is secure
>not becoming something you actually desire to be
enjoy your upcoming midlife crisis while I'll be teaching history and loving every second of it

[Anonymous No.558389]

>>554085
>He said he's technically a "partner" at his company, so he gets taxed as an employer/business owner, not as a salary, therefore is taxed less.

>He leases a Range Rover and gets a tax credit on it because he technically needs it for work, even though the company has a van.

He talks about taxes like he's the last player in a game of telephone.

[Anonymous No.558430]

>>558382
lol on the contrary please enjoy YOUR midlife crisis

[Anonymous No.558528]

>>557999

>laws are written by congressmen and lobbyists

Do you really believe that yourself?

[Anonymous No.558541]

>>555555
>you'll be able to find these cyborg killer services in the yellow pages?
Well it was called the silk road a little while ago.
It'll be something else in the future.

[Anonymous No.558543]

>>558035
No, the owners of the robots doing all the work get to party all the time.

Just like the owners of the factories got to party all the time once they found out they could hire people to run it for them.

This whole "wealth begets more wealth" thing has been pretty apparent for a LONG ASS while.

No real reason to think that it'll change with robots.

[Anonymous No.558552]

>>554085
I'm sure he's a major outlier, but damn that sounds really nice.

[Anonymous No.558554]

>>556427
My school has a Supply Chain Management program and an Industrial Management program. What the hell is the difference?

[Anonymous No.558587]

Politics, only because it exploits the illusion that human decisions are more acceptable than machine decisions.

There will also likely always be a place for human entertainers, though their significance and prominence is hard to predict.

[Anonymous No.558598]

>>558554
Areyoufuckingserious.jpg

[Anonymous No.558712]

>>548439

> programmer

yeah right, the only future programmers can look forward to is programming a program that makes programs

[Anonymous No.558729]

>>548711
the dumb ones do

[Anonymous No.558742]

>>558528

Yes. And do you believe that the writing of laws and the power that yields is delegated to a random fuck with a JD?