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What caused this decline?

>> No.54816489

>>54816425
lazy niggers are lazy niggers wut happened?!

>> No.54816491

>>54816425
They are only well versed in their digital LifeLog playpens, but have no understanding of the Internet. Cell (Prison) Phones are not Computers.

>> No.54816512

anything that is not a touchscreen click on a funny drawing pictogram confuses the hell out of zoomers. click and drag is like a mad tech skill for them

>> No.54816580

>>54816425
>people suck generally
wow colour me black

>> No.54816594

>>54816425
itoddlers and games as a service

>> No.54816655

They grew up with smartphones which are primed for consumption instead of desktops/laptops which are primed for production

>> No.54816748

>>54816425
>Implying millennials know anything about computers
KEK

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>>54816425
The average normie IQ is dropping but the basic barriers to PC and internet use stay the same. Most are too stupid to fix a broken PC, either hardware or software, via trial and error. Plus if you get everyone using basic phones with no customisation options, you can herd them all into the KYC surface internet.

>> No.54816888

>>54816425
Dependence on UI and not trying to understand what's under the hood

>> No.54816973

Everyone in this thread is joking, right? I know boomers are very easy to mislead but there's no fucking way they're actually retarded enough to read one headline and immediately believe an entire generation can't use computers

>> No.54817000

>>54816748
Millennials also have a spectrum ranging from the old millennials to the young ones with the old ones being a lot more tech savvy than the young ones.

>> No.54817044

>>54816973
Gen Z is just one extreme or another. My brother and I were always into tech shit, and while he may be much better as far as programming is concerned (I don’t really have the patience for that, I’m more on the network side of things lol) we both still exhibit pretty solid understanding of all the concepts of computing. But for every one of us there are those who only see computers or phones as the magical boxes that just miraculously make the funny words and colors happen, and only see them as app machines. Ask yourself this, how many of the younger millennials even know of DOS, let alone know how to navigate it? How many even know what a Commodore was? Now apply that to even younger people. People who even had a basic inner knowledge or understanding of computers were always the exception to the norm, case in point that recent hearing with the CEO of shittok where the senator who was only in his 40’s asked if it could connect to the internet on your home wifi with a straight face.
t. 24 year old zoomer

>> No.54817073

>>54816973
It's true, though. The entire generation of boomers has read that headline and now believes that there isn't a single zoomer who knows how to operate a PC.

>> No.54817127

I hate juice so much it's unreal

>> No.54817172

>>54817044
>IQ 80 zoomer thinks cmd is "DOS"
OP pic confirmed

>> No.54817179

>>54816425
Do children not learn to save/open files, edit word docs, etc at school? Seems odd that education in IT would have worsened. In the UK we were taught all basic productive work on a PC as early as the late 90s/early 2000s

>> No.54817184

>>54816425
iphones made computers so easy that they didnt have to learn anything

>> No.54817187

>>54816425
Office software has always been a pain in the dick

>> No.54817199

>>54817187
The more flexible the software the more powerful it is, the harder it is to learn the higher the barrier to brainlets.

>> No.54817204

>>54816973
>no fucking way they're actually retarded enough to read one headline and immediately believe an entire generation can't use computers
I'm definitely considering it.
when I went to the lego store a couple days ago;
they didn't have any computers.
they just ring me up on their phone.
I'm not sure if zoomers really have any reason to own a laptop or desktop PC.

>> No.54817205

I understand this is a very unpopular opinion, but I kind of despise generational labels. They're fine for marketing analysis, but otherwise constitute pretty crude stereotypes that have all the academic rigor of horoscopes. Boomers like this, zoomers like that, saggitariuses are ambitious but cautious, they should marry within the year of the Rat for long and happy life!
It's unfalsifiable bullshiting. There are too many different people out there to group them as confidently as people so often do.

>> No.54817207

>>54817000
This simply is not true
>>54817044
>People who had a basic inner knowledge of computers were always the exception
This is exactly my point, it has nothing to do with generation, the vast majority of people don't care about computers.
>Gen Z is just one extreme or another
Like every other generation
>How many younger millenials even know of DOS
Dude, this doesn't mean anything. Memorizing how to type in a few prompts or knowing what an old pos computer is isn't being "technically literate".
>>54817073
Kek, fair enough
>>54817179
We did learn this, these news articles are just sensationalism
t. 19 years old

>> No.54817209

I've seen this shit. It's unreal, some of them don't even know how to use a mouse. Watching them try to do basic operating system functions with a touchscreen laptop(only way some of them can use a computer) is hilarious.

>> No.54817217

>>54817205
your argument is easily disproven.
e.g. "black people can't swim"

>> No.54817234

>>54817000
27 YO Zoomer here
Know my way around coding in C, C#, bit of C++, JavaScript, Python
Know how to code GPU shaders using CG and HLSL/GLSL
Never made a career but have been working in audio production with a high school mate that actually had the wads to pay for the career, he's shared everything he's learned. I'm not a professional by any means but not a mumble turd level either by any means (I don't do music, mostly foleay/ambient/sfx but learned making Psytrance which is easily 10 times as complex and usually contains 5-50 times more channels/plugins than any normie genre), started to use Ableton Live/Logic when I was 16
Know how to use adobe suite, from PS, Ai, AE, Pr, Fuse, DW (avoid), ID, XD
Know how to model, rig and animate in blender, game ready or cinematic models.
Know Unreal and Unity, leverage them sometimes to render content instead of using adobe turd or slow ass blender
Know web dev>React/Vanilla/Next/Web3 Dapps
Using a compartmentalized host with vms for different tasks
>Torrenting since 2010 (limewire/the like some years prior) and sneeding since 2014
>used crypto to order shit when I was a HS teenager, around 2014/15

Current gen zoomies are pathetic and my gen lives in limbo, I know the nuzoomers will be exploitable 5/6 years down the line when real world starts to catch with them but I haven't envisioned a way to profit off of it yet

>> No.54817254

>>54816655
Your mom is primes for production if you know what I mean
She's fertile

>> No.54817255

>>54817205
sir, this is a mongolian basket weaving forum

>> No.54817258

>>54817217
Not sure what you mean. Swimming is pretty easy to teach anyone.

>> No.54817267

>>54816973
no but i know zoomers and most of them are retarded

>> No.54817295

>>54817205
Generational trends are very real and there's tons of data backing it up.

>> No.54817356

>>54817234
> sir, this is mcdonalds...

>> No.54817368

>>54817258
>ONE RACE LE HUMAN RACE

>> No.54817611

>>54817368
but that's not my argument. I'm saying people are not at all alike, not that everyone is the same. You can identify behaviors observed on average, but I question whether they can accurately predict an individual's behavior.

>> No.54817674

>>54817234
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
COPE - THE POST

>> No.54817713

>>54817611
You're a faggot so I predicted you would post this. Now youll call me a bigot. How did I know? Because you're a faggot

>> No.54817738

>>54816425
Zoomers are obsessed with video games though, I am sure the ones with high end PCs know how to use desktop computers well

>> No.54817754

>>54816491
Wow

>> No.54817773

>>54817713
i accept your concession anon

>> No.54818429

>>54816425
>intuitive streamlined sleek user interfaces
when using older windows you could see how it worked like looking under a hood of a car. most skilled users could use command prompt or were at least aware of it. Before that it was BASIC computers that you had to code to use.

Now what do we have?
touch screen apps.
How do i even access "command prompt" on my iphone? I dont even think my newest windows device will let me access that stuff.
I've heard stories of zoomzooms asking how to make folders and move files around a windows directory.

>> No.54818545

>>54816973
People believe they are immune to hearsay.

>> No.54818585

>>54816973
Bro, as a zoomer myself I can tell you with high confidence that my fellow zoomers find anything without the UI of an apple product confusing.

>> No.54818606

>>54817738
They mostly just bitch about frame rate and just chase after the NEWEST stuff, hence why Navida can market their 4090 like it’s a fucking phone.

>> No.54819067

>>54816425
Overuse of Cellphones, heavy reliance on just saving everything to a cloud.

>> No.54819132

>>54817172
well it kind of is, it basically got ported from DOS to the then-new NT kernel. most of its idiosyncrasies come from the DOS era.

>> No.54819150

It seems paradoxical but the more advanced (read: easier) technology becomes the more intellectually lazy and babied the user base becomes as well.

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54819244

imagine thinking youre smart because you know how to move a mouse pointer on a screen. actually unironic baboon-tier thinking.

>I can navigate the file system, and master gives me pineapples for reward. I am better than the baboon who can't.

zoomers can sense that waging is a fucking joke. we merely adopted the clown world. zoomers are born in it, moulded by it.

>> No.54819290

>>54819244

I don't get what your point is. UI developers are always trying to make it dumber and easier to use, usually at the expense of broader capability.

If we're talking about an OS, you can do everything with command line, less with pure Windows 10, and even less with modern mobile style tile based systems. It isn't arbitrary, it's totally about form vs function.

>> No.54819338

>>54816425
They never really learned how to think outside the box and how to problem solve.

>> No.54819377

>>54816425
Steve Jobs literally ruined an entire generation.

>> No.54819947

>>54817073
Which is ironic considering if you've ever worked alongside a baby boomer you'd know they barely know how to operate a computer.

>> No.54819987

>>54819244
>I can navigate the file system. I am better than the baboon who can't.
Yes.

>> No.54820016

what an off topic shit thread
btw its part of the attempt to find out why the Artificial Indian astroturf failed so spectacularly
the answer is the coof models where wrong, assumption about being able to control a population with memes falsified

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>>54817234
>It doesn't seem like it's a good idea to hire this person

Based on the post provided, it is understandable that you may have concerns about hiring this individual. The issues with their tone, organization, unsubstantiated claims, and mention of potentially illegal activities could raise concerns about their professionalism, judgment, and ability to work in a team environment.
While the author of this post lists a number of technical skills, there are several aspects of the post that are concerning:

Inappropriate language: The author uses derogatory terms to describe certain genres of music and software, which could be considered unprofessional and inappropriate.

Lack of clarity: The author's description of their experience is not very clear. For example, they mention that they have "never made a career" in coding or audio production, but it's not clear what kind of work they have done in these areas.

Lack of depth: The author lists a number of skills but does not provide any examples or evidence to show how they have applied these skills or what they have achieved with them. This lack of depth makes it difficult to assess the author's level of expertise or potential.

Questionable behavior: The author's admission of illegal activities, such as torrenting and using crypto to order items as a teenager, could be a cause for concern for potential employers or collaborators.

>> No.54820367

My general impression has always been that there are tiers of computer illiteracy:

>Can code, understands how the hardware and software generally works (there's layers to this)
>Can "code" but don't really know what they're doing beyond a narrow area (web devs, a surprising number of people doing scripting)
>Can use the computer and edit a few files or monkey around with shit under the hood (quite a few people)
>Can navigate a device intuitively and figure out how it generally works even if they don't understand what's going on under the hood (most younger people)
>I have no idea how this infernal machine even functions, how do I silence my phone (most, but not all, boomers)

Most millennials and gen z fall into the category of at least being able to navigate or fuck around with it, and a surprisingly large number of people can at least dig around under the hood. I have never gotten the impression that zoomers were more tech illiterate than millennials, but maybe I don't interact with enough of them. However a quick google search of "gen z tech savvy" gives me articles that says that they're the most tech savvy, and "gen z tech illiterate" gives me articles that says that they're tech illiterate. So aside from google's algorithm being fucked I have no idea.

>> No.54820375

>>54816425
nigger spic generation raised by trannie leftist wtf could go right?

>> No.54820446

>>54820367
they are. they are for the most part category 4 - same as millenials handeled video recorders and other analog boomer tech zoomers handled digital devices, It was there, you knew how to operate it, everything beyond, who cares. And the issue with the AI astroturf is, that it requires a hell lot of specializations and a declining population simply has not the capacities for such specializations to be driven.

Add on top thet the soon demographic buldge, Millenials and GenX hate the Boomer corpo system that rugged them at least 4 times with a passion that goe to a degree where the late 18th century is going to look tame

>> No.54820542

>>54816425
who cares because now we will just ask our AI assistant to do anything

>> No.54820873

>>54818429
>"command prompt" on my iphone? I dont even think my newest windows device will let me access that stuff.
Yeah, Apple would never include a command prompt program with an iphone. The command prompt is still available in windows though.

>> No.54821051

>>54816748
The ones I grew up with who were born in the early 90's knew way more about computers than the average person from my experience. I built a computer with my dad when I was 8 years old, and was using limewire to download music in grade school. When I was in highschool everyone knew how to torrent movies and software. It wasn't until smart phones became super commonplace that computers started being seen as something just for work or to play video games. Smart phones existed when I was in highschool but not a lot of people had them yet, most of the kids still had basic flip phones that could only text.

>> No.54821055

>>54817207
Shut up faggot you don’t even know how to use a computer