/XMR/ Monero General

[Anonymous No.54516744]

Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptocurrencies. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier to entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Binance
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Kucoin
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

[Anonymous No.54516760]

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>54453445

[Anonymous No.54516768]

What wallet is better bros? OneKey or Trezor?
I heard that both are open source hardware and software but Trezor is not open source firmawre and OneKey is (though I haven't confirmed if the trezor firmware is open). Someone said that the Trezor touchscreen sucked and they switched to OneKey. What are your thouhgts? They both look good tbf

[Anonymous No.54516772]

START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL
START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

[Anonymous No.54516781]

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

[Anonymous No.54516791]

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/services

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Buy silver/gold bullion with XMR (US only)
https://monerosilver.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Win XMR!
https://monero.win/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>AlphaBay STATUS UNCLEAR!!
>Archetyp
>Astra #
>Asur Market
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Dark Matter
>Darkmoon
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Mellow Market
>Retro Market
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/yaUPVLvk


>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Elude
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/AnkqVGjp


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

[Anonymous No.54516800]

START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE


>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

[Anonymous No.54516808]

>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

[Anonymous No.54516825]

>>54516744
pregnant monero-chan plz

[Anonymous No.54516860]

Anything that isn't PoW is a scam.
Anything that isn't ASIC resistant is a scam.

[Anonymous No.54516875]

>>54516744
shit that's amazing. love the white stockings.
for anyone wiling to contribute with more monerochans here is the sd model
>https://civitai.com/models/23982/monerochan

[Anonymous No.54516978]

[Anonymous No.54516982]

Which mobile wallet do you use anon?

[Anonymous No.54516987]

>>54516982
i have used cake wallet but i dont really use monero on my phone

[Anonymous No.54516992]

>>54516982
moneroju or whatever its called
the top left one
still have to fetch my coins on coinomi after they quit updating it. hope they're still there. but I guess so

[Anonymous No.54517006]

>>54516987
What about exchanges? I hear Kraken is good. Also I'm curious to knwo which hardware wallet is better between these two.
OneKey is open source
>hardware
>software
>and firmware
I think that Trezor is open hardware and software but don't know about firmware. Which do you guys prefer better and why? Thanks

[Anonymous No.54517016]

>>54516982
Cake, but only as a hot wallet. Savings i rather keep on tails in feather

[Anonymous No.54517089]

Threadly reminder that there is now a parallel XMR General on the darknet imageboard BitChan where you can post with the absolute maximum degree of privacy possible.

Why bother? Well, remember that every time you post on 4chan the content + your IP address are being logged and that data can and will be made available to LE/glowies upon request.

So if you need to ask a very delicate question, want to make a potentially incriminating announcement or you otherwise just absolutely positively DO NOT WANT to risk being deanonymized, the BitChan thread would be the place to do it.

The slightly higher barrier to entry also serves as a badly needed retard filter so a lot of us post there simply to avoid the hordes of mouth breathers that befoul this otherwise delightful basket weaving forum.

>How do I access BitChan?

You need to have I2P configured & running on your device. Fortunately, pre-configured browser bundles are now available and make everything easy. Since most of you lazy faggots are still using Windows we'll default to that for the following guide:

1. Visit https://i2pd.website/ and click on 'Download I2PdBrowser'.
2. Download either the I2PdBrowserPortable_xxx.7z or .exe file. Extract/install it.
3. Run the StartI2PdBrowser.bat batch file to launch. Adjust firewall settings/port forward as required. Port forwarding > UPnP

A cmd window will pop up and initialize the process. A windowed Firefox instance should soon appear. DO NOT RESIZE IT! Browser fingerprinting is a thing. Once pic-related appears you are officially browsing the darknet! You can monitor yr I2P service by visiting http://127.0.0.1:7070/ in yr *regular* browser.

Then simply copy/paste the following link into the address bar as per usual:

http://bitchan.i2p/thread/BM-2cVPN9mi9oBKATjNxKkopHJSCU9ah7wQwW/047186ce462d

You may have to complete a CAPTCHA on your first visit. Also, NEVER, EVER ENABLE JAVASCRIPT!!!!

Keep in mind that page loading takes longer on the darknet, so be patient.

[Anonymous No.54517117]

>>54517089
>1. Visit https://i2pd.website/ and click on 'Download I2PdBrowser'.
>2. Download either the I2PdBrowserPortable_xxx.7z or .exe file. Extract/install it.
>3. Run the StartI2PdBrowser.bat batch file to launch. Adjust firewall settings/port forward as required. Port forwarding > UPnP
Hope nobody here is stupid enough to click on any of these

[Anonymous No.54517129]

>>54517117

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.54517141]

Reporting in
##################################
Swimng Pool - https://pastebin.com/raw/Mb7Dyg24
IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

[Anonymous No.54517145]

>>54517006
kyc, kraken
non kyc, tradeogre/localmonero

[Anonymous No.54517242]

>>54516744
read this recently

"Go fuck yourself, glownigger. The minute Biden weaponized the USD publicly is when your kike overlords lost their grip. Enjoy your savings and retirement evaporating into nothing."

kinda makes sense. anyone else think a lot of 401ks and pensions are going to evaporate due to Jewish Communist Inflation i.e bailouts for their failed jewish banks?

[Anonymous No.54517532]

>>54517145
thanks anon. My only concern would be, wasn't there an issue with LocalMonero because of Fluffypony? Anyways since nobody has answered whether OneKey or Trezor is better, I'm siding more towards OneKey.

[Anonymous No.54517540]

>>54517532
command line is best. all other wallets are nigger tier. but be a nigger if you want.

[Anonymous No.54517600]

>>54517006
I use kraken and a ledger with the basic getmoneri gui wallet

Pleb setup?

[Anonymous No.54517643]

>>54517532
Fluufy has nothing to do with localmonero, and the fud about him was absolute retard tier.

[Anonymous No.54517671]

>>54517242
>kinda makes sense. anyone else think a lot of 401ks and pensions are going to evaporate due to Jewish Communist Inflation i.e bailouts for their failed jewish banks?

Either that, or they do a bail-in like in Cyprus or Lebanon as an excuse to roll out the cbdc.

[Anonymous No.54518196]

Hello XMR friends! I wish to promote digital artist Xaibott on moneromarket.io! Bro drew me a really cute Monero-chan for a low price. Do consider Xiabott if you would like a commission and have some spare xmr.

[Anonymous No.54518206]

Full image for reference. Artist link: https://moneromarket.io/u/xaibott/

[Anonymous No.54518244]

>>54517671
what exactly is a bail in comapred to printing a whole bunch of jbag bailout bucks?

i have heard brothers in cyprus and lebanon got decimated by jbag inflation but what is this bail in?

[Anonymous No.54518258]

I feel rich

[Anonymous No.54518812]

>Trusted technology, growing adoption

Zcash was launched by one of the most respected technical teams in the world.

Zcash is the 'https of blockchains,' protecting your freedom to save and spend as you like.

Zcash was the first project to implement zk-SNARKs, a novel form of zero-knowledge cryptography that gives its users the strongest privacy available in any digital currency.

Multiple, independent organizations are funded to innovate on Zcash.

Zcash is already available on top exchanges, digital wallets and a growing number of applications.

[Anonymous No.54518824]

This is what Monero chuds dont want you to know.

Buy Zcash if you actually want to make it.

[Anonymous No.54518837]

>>54518812
>>54518824
one small issue:

the world has already agreed on xmr

[Anonymous No.54518975]

Rate my plan as a poorfag with no expenses and my analysis

In 6 to 12 months bitshit will crash again

Initially it will drag monero down to 80 dollars due to clown world faggotry, but afterwards we're in prime position to take number 1 marketcap

This year and 2024 is your last chance to make it before monero owns the market

I will drive uber literally everyday until that day and then go all in

[Anonymous No.54519095]

>>54516825
>pregnant monero-chan plz
>>54519075

[Anonymous No.54519176]

>>54516744
wow amazing op pic
>>54516825

[Anonymous No.54519817]

Not sure what the fuck is with all this talk of OneKey but I am convinced this is astroturfing and do not trust this shit.

[Anonymous No.54519825]

>>54516860
Kek beat me to it

[Anonymous No.54519833]

>>54517117
>Hope nobody here is stupid enough to click on the official i2pd website hurr durr

[Anonymous No.54519885]

>>54517117
It' ok bro I used incognito
>>54518975
Nah I don't see spike in price happening anytime soon.
If btc crashes xmr will crab at 100 or something for several years.

[Anonymous No.54520368]

>>54519885
Nice fud

[Anonymous No.54520402]

>>54519817
yeah, obvious brown-skin level spamming for something nobody's ever heard of like onekey makes this thing something you should never, ever touch, just like that chinky ellipal hardware wallet
likely compromised, or at the very least built by people so incompetent it's unintentionally compromised.

[Anonymous No.54520568]

>>54518824
>the privacy provided by zcash does not prevent regulated entities from fulfilling their regulatory obligations
Imagine telling this to a citizen of china, north korea, venezuela, cuba, russia, canada, etc. Lmao you cant make this shit up

[Anonymous No.54520847]

>>54516768
trezor is pretty good
>Trezor is not open source firmawre
wrong
https://github.com/trezor/trezor-firmware

[Anonymous No.54521080]

Reminder that the /XMR/ bookclub is now a thing.
>What book?
The Sovereign Individual
>Where to get it?
with explanation: https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/#books
from the tracker: tracker2.postman.i2p/index.php?view=TorrentDetail&id=69603
>Which chapters and for when?
Chapters 1-3, we'll finish and discuss next Sunday (16th of April)
>Where to discuss?
For now, keep it in /XMR/ but if it gains enough traction it will happen on bitchan.i2p as well.

For any more info as to how, check out
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/#guide
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/#where

[Anonymous No.54521576]

>>54520368
What fud?
Is your brain incapable of anything else than numbers go up?

[Anonymous No.54521610]

>>54521576
implying demand won't outstrip supply by 100 fold once bitshit is exposed, and more demonic Orwellian approaches are adopted

you really are on the wrong thread again aren't you

[Anonymous No.54522418]

I sent a bit of monero to a friend a few days ago (using official wallet, remote node) and it has over 1000 confirmations but he still hasn't received it. Assuming there's no malware on either of us computers, what else can we try

[Anonymous No.54522495]

>>54522418
Ive never had the issue but sounds like your wallet isnt sync'd.
https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/6465/why-is-my-monero-transaction-not-appearing-in-wallet#6473

[Anonymous No.54522506]

>>54522495
*rather, his wallet is out of sync.

[Anonymous No.54522509]

>>54522495
i checked the block height in his wallet and it seems fine
idk he's from indonesia perhaps he's infected with malware

[Anonymous No.54522579]

>>54522509
Verify the transaction in the block explorer and have him restore from an earlier block height? Just spitballing here

[Anonymous No.54522940]

I2p seems like it'd be better in the long term for hosting hidden services, but I watched a discussion between some monero developers regarding i2p's development team, and they raised a lot of concerns about the i2p, like the i2p development team being too small and hobbyist to maintain a project of this size. So, what do you i2p fags make of this discussion?
https://youtu.be/j5K5aUbrJ24?t=889

[Anonymous No.54523445]

>>54522940

They used to say the exact same thing about Monero, all cypherpunk projects start off small.

As I2P grows its profile it should attract more devs accordingly. Spread the word and help make it happen.

[Anonymous No.54524460]

How many users did Fluffypony rat out to Interpol today?

[Anonymous No.54524504]

>>54523445
i2p has been around for 20 years already, it had a recent resurgence because of the ddos attacks ongoing on TOR. I2p is not without its issues but there has been some recent progress as well.

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.54524688]

>>54524460
let me ask chatgpt

[Anonymous No.54524940]

>>54522940
To be honest, I'm in agreement with the interview. Blaming an open source project for not having too many devs is useless. Hopefully, i2pd being in c++ and more focus shifting towards I2P in general should help getting developers into the i2p "ecosystem". But it's not like RSA-3072 is terribly insecure anyways. It might die as an alternative darknet, or it might not. But that secondary possibility is still worthy of pursuing imo.

>>54524504
I actually got into i2p a few years ago and didn't find much activity at all. Some mostly abandoned Russian forums, a few personal sites, and maybe one or two link aggregators. But now several DNMs, forums/imageboards, LocalMonero, and probably more all have their eepsites. It's still not the de-facto network for the darknet, far from it. And it has its issues, but it has come a long way. And I expect their "separate network, not an anonymous router" model to pay off big in terms of speed in the future, as Tor is essentially forced to endure 9 non-onionsite requests for every onionsite request it routes.

>>54521080
Also regarding the site, I updated it with a short section about torrenting with i2psnark, because an anon from the last thread (>>54515502) mentioned needing to read up on this. But I'm no expert and just I'm just writing from personal experience (especially the custom Firefox profile setup), so if there is any factually incorrect information/stuff that should be included or bettered, let me know and I'll add/correct it.

[Anonymous No.54525019]

>>54524940
Definitely good to see new growth, i think its important that the community has alternative options to tor, the two networks shouldnt be in competition but providing different privacy services based on their strengths.

[Anonymous No.54525062]

thanks for including monerochan baker.

[Anonymous No.54526153]

>>54518812
>>54518824

Based Nigerian Village Feeder.

[Anonymous No.54526261]

>>54521610
this a low-IQ oversimplification
if you are going to be low-IQ in XMR threads please preface your posts with "I am retarded but here's what I think:"

[Anonymous No.54526346]

>>54521610
>you really are on the wrong thread again aren't you
Nah I've been here for few years already.
It's always the next year, always btc just about to die, yet nothing happening and so on.
Dog memes are still going strong so thinking btc will die next year and xmr will skyrocket is kinda optimistic.

I'm just waiting for seraphis, reading the zk discussion and trying to ignore any sats movements.

[Anonymous No.54526641]

>>54521610
There's no reason to believe that bitcoin will fall precipitously anytime soon. Institutional money far greater than any of us plebs can muster is inflating its price, and CBDCs are not close enough to threaten this cushion. Bitcoin has several years left at least, and xmr also has several years left before before CBDCs impact its price. To pretend otherwise is just moonfaggotry. Monero is not a moonfag coin, so insinuating others are FUDing for not sharing your immediate bullish predictions is silly. If somebody wants to successfully fud this thread, they'll talk shit about technology, not price action.

Is the i2p thread less moonfaggy? I'm getting annoyed with fags like this constantly crying wolf about fud.

[Anonymous No.54526935]

>>54526641
>There's no reason to believe that bitcoin will fall precipitously anytime soon.

There is no rhyme or reason in this highly irrational market so anything is possible although at this point with crypto-skepticism growing and regulations looming its more likely that BTC drops in price rather than rises.

BTC is propped up by the MASS DELUSION that it is inevitably headed for $100K and beyond on the strength of "muh fundamentals", which we all know here aren't actually very impressive.

So once a critical mass of investors realize BTC will not be delivering on its promises the divestment will begin and that will be that.

Something else that may well trigger the collapse is the next halving, price expectations are high based on previous halvings so if the next one fails to deliver (which is quite likely)......stand back lol

[Anonymous No.54526975]

>>54526935
it's funny how infested this thread is with bitshit maxis

literally all of them are all in on bitcoin but monero is just "interesting" to them

why the fuck are they here, to fud monero, it's quite simple

and I look forward to the day they are crushed, another pump and dump

[Anonymous No.54527092]

>>54526975
Not shook either way. Monero works just as well for me at 150$ as it would at 1000.

[Anonymous No.54527112]

>>54526975
>why the fuck are they here, to fud monero, it's quite simple
these xmr cope generals get spammed with the same anti-bitcoin cope every single thread.
nobody thinks more about bitcoin than altmaxis.

[Anonymous No.54527119]

>>54527092
in reality no, it doesn't

higher price based on higher adoption would be better, obviously

[Anonymous No.54527135]

>>54527112
bitcoin is already dead, bunch of retarded normie latchons doesn't make it alive

also, why don't you have a bitcoin general to contain yourself to faggot

[Anonymous No.54527150]

>>54527119
Obviously it would be better, but my point of its use as intended working still applies

[Anonymous No.54527405]

Hey guys if I have a Monero GUI is there any point in getting a Trezor? The GUI is already a very safe wallet on its own

[Anonymous No.54527426]

>54527405
Tails persistence with feather. Enough said, now you can stop spamming the board with this

[Anonymous No.54527524]

>>54527405
The risks inherent to using the Monero GUI on desktop, or a mobile wallet such as Cake wallet, is that in the event your PC or mobile device succumb to keylogging software / malware at some point, your private spend key is at risk of exposure / theft. Using a hardware wallet isn't just keeping your key on a USB storage device, a hardware wallet allows for a transaction to be signed with your private / spend key using a dedicated chip ON the hardware wallet device, and then sends the signed transaction over USB. This means that in the event your workstation or phone are compromised by malware, the malicious party only gains access to a signed transaction, which does them no good as they still don't have access to your private key.

[Anonymous No.54527537]

>>54526935
>BTC is propped up by the MASS DELUSION that it is inevitably headed for $100K
The interesting, and kind of worrying thing is that there is an ever widening and massive disconnect between essentially TA and FA. If you look at the general price tendencies, TA, run the numbers with inflation/halvening and supply dynamics. You get those aforementioned 100k or even millions of dollars. And many willfully submit to these ignoring the basic fucking things that hold these up. Or the FA part.

From a fundamentals perspective, Bitcoin failed. I don't think there is any need to detail it more. The thing that *is* changing with the upcoming cycle is the potential for better fundamentals. Sure, Bitcoin always had kind of weak fundamentals (and even weaker fundamental relative to alts later on). But the investorial bubble did not collapse especially because of a speculative FA floating in the sky. Be it programmable money, several thousand tps, or instant payments, when the previous narrative proved to be ineffective a weaker one came to rescue the hopes and dreams of investors. However, in the background there is still a tendency for these to both become weaker and underlying network health to deteriorate. And I speculate that with the network's lifeline, its block reward, getting halved again alongside with harsher macroeconomic condition both the small and large scale investors will have to face reality that the "possible Bitcoin" is simply no longer there.

(1/2)

[Anonymous No.54527558]

>>54527537
(2/2)

Additionally just consider this evolution of narratives. In the early days of BTC it was expected to be programmable digital cash. Later on they downscale it to "well it could do many tps" during the blocksize wars. Later when that failed the new golden unicorn became LN (ie well it might not do many on L1, but it can do them fast on L2). And we are at the end of this era. LN was in development for 5-6 years already with not even its core problem of routing is unsolved. Plus add on fundamental problems with centralization. I think a probable next target for probably even less investors to chase will either be Ordinals or some form of e-commerce. Who really knows what after that. BTC might genuinely fade away/have a serious network collapse.

[Anonymous No.54527644]

>>54526641
>There's no reason to believe that bitcoin will fall precipitously anytime soon.

This can no longer be guaranteed as basically all btc trades happen on one exchange now, and that exchange (binance) is being investigated over having hundreds of bot accounts trade against their customers. If Cee Zhee makes tons of money at 10k, then we're headed to 10k regardless of muh candlesticks or muh digital gold

[None !hPFV6Brm5A No.54528414]

Update on fumos.

About half are sold already. Certs went into print today but the print company seems braindead so we will see how that works out.
I hope to be able to ship them out within the next 2 weeks, at worst 3.

Thanks for placing your trust in me, means a lot. I can't wait to see the girls posing with real rifles <3

[Anonymous No.54528479]

adoption is dead

[Anonymous No.54528896]

>>54528479
>>54528479
>adoption is dead

My business accepts only XMR for crypto payments

[Anonymous No.54529122]

>>54528479
>adoption is dead

You going to post this in every General, retard?

[Anonymous No.54529278]

>Base fees go down as a function of transaction volume.

Monero does this then why bitcoin doesn't do this, are the bitcoin developers possed or can someone explain why they don't improve the bitcoin code.

Basically my experience with monero is that transactions are faster, it doesn't take forever (maybe fucking ordinals) and to be honest the store of value is fucking dogshit with the fact that ordinals will destroy bitcoin.

[Anonymous No.54529309]

>>54526346
Is dogecoin a good coin by itself i mean i am sure the transactions are cheaper than bitcoin

[Anonymous No.54529606]

>>54528414
where to buy

[Anonymous No.54529651]

>>54529278
Bitcoin would need dynamic blocks and tail emission to do that. Considering that they woild need to walk back the reason behind the block size wars and their proposed L2 solutions this won't happen

[Anonymous No.54529653]

>>54528414
欲しい〜

[Anonymous No.54529711]

Would you guys be interested in buying talnette honey, white honey, honey castile or propolis with xmr

[Anonymous No.54529954]

>>54529711

We absolutely need more LEGAL items being sold for XMR.

If its clean and organic I imagine there would be steady demand.

[Anonymous No.54529991]

Does it help the Monero network in anyway if I leave my Monero GUI client running?

[Anonymous No.54530014]

>>54529711
Maybe once for novelty and then only again after that if prices are competitive with the local grocer

[Anonymous No.54530024]

>>54530014
Its original mayan talnette honey if that makes the item more worth it

[Anonymous No.54530048]

>>54529991
to clarify, I'm not mining, just leaving the client running.

[Anonymous No.54530076]

>>54530024
Honeypill me anon what's so good about it

[Anonymous No.54530217]

>>54530076
Talnette honey regulates bowel function, cures stomach ulcers, heals open wounds, antibiotic propertys, improves your inmune system, it helps with eye infections and carnosity, its dark and acidic, personally its my favorite one because well its really diferent from commercial honey which isn't real honey the motherfuckers have preservatives and also remember your food has nanoparticles approved by a globohomo institution like the fda and food companys that only care about fucking your health, for the special medicinal honey thats really extra is maiden honey which is a little more expensive because of how hard its to get it, the bees produce 1L of that per year and its to treat carnositys, hipertension, treats cough throat, gastrointestinal disorders and well honey castile is really delicious as well and contains vitamins, B complex, calcium, phosphorus, iron magnesium and zinc. The main selling points is that its organic food by local producers with healing propertys and not a product of a gay international company.

[Anonymous No.54530232]

>>54530217
When I search for talnette I get a bunch of results for palmetto honey. Are they the same thing?

[Anonymous No.54530252]

>>54530014
>>54530048
No, running a miner would, but just leaving the GUI will do nothing for the network.

[Anonymous No.54530280]

>>54528479
Hello ztrash shill. Reminder that your coin is going to zero.

[Anonymous No.54530289]

>>54530232
Its diferent because that honey is from florida while the honey i am talking its from the Tzutuhil mayans

[Anonymous No.54530298]

>>54527119
>higher price based on higher adoption would be better, obviously
right, but bitcoin's price is not based on adoption and causes their community to be filled with the lowest of the low IQ's. We don't want this to occur with Monero while it's not even close to finished.

[Anonymous No.54530336]

>>54529954
>We absolutely need more LEGAL items being sold for XMR.
This is true, but moneromarket seems to be an utter failure and filled with NSFW spam and uncategorized nonsense.

[Anonymous No.54530358]

>>54528414
I’ll buy one once my check clears. I’ll probably buy the “I believe in Monero-Chan supremacy” package and place the monero stickers throughout Los Angeles.

[Anonymous No.54530420]

>>54518812
>Trusted technology, growing adoption
>growing adoption
more like
>glowing adoption
lmao
amirite? amirite?
fr fr
barry,jpg
gonnabeabigweek.png
gonna be a big week of LE takedowns for anyone using that pos imo kek

[Anonymous No.54530426]

>>54519176
Yes, that is my child with Monero-chan.
How did you know?

[Anonymous No.54530766]

>>54529606
She's at http://monerosupplies.com/

[Anonymous No.54531143]

>>54530217
Sounds like money(ro) well spent to me

[Anonymous No.54531355]

Can zcucks provide 5 shops that accept it?

[LebAnon No.54531442]

>>54517671
Lebanese here
we didn't get bailed
banks skull fucked us
they're waiting for IMF but I unironically heard rumors about a CBDC similar protocol
people here are too uninformed to understand (((CBDC)))s

[Anonymous No.54531839]

It's tax season, boys

[None !hPFV6Brm5A No.54531990]

>>54530358
if you mention it in the order notes and promise to take some cool sticker/fumo pics in LA I'll throw in a 55er bundle of stickers for free

[Anonymous No.54532317]

>>54530336
>moneromarket seems to be an utter failure
I dunno, that seems like a bit of a stretch. I've seen a lot of cool stuff on there.

[Anonymous No.54532448]

>>54532317
Yea, i wouldnt say its failed either, but it very much feels like a project in the beta phases, lots of random junk posted and people trying to sell cockli invites for 5-10 bucks kek. Needs better filters and organisation, but i will say there are many more listings than there were even a few months ago.

[Anonymous No.54532651]

>>54532448
Call me a bloomer but it wouldn't surprise me if the site continues to grow due to Cuckbook Marketplace purging consumables off their platform, and the SVB blowup causing Etsy-milfs to not get paid for a while.

[Anonymous No.54532659]

>>54532448
I feel like this is going nowhere. We should have intermediaries between sites like amazon, ebay, aliexpress, etc, to buy shit that you actually are looking for.
Is there such a service and how can much can i trust them?

[Anonymous No.54532680]

>>54532651
Kek, i'd pitch in a few pico's to the etsy-milf bailout

[Anonymous No.54532688]

>>54532659
I havent used it, but there is cake pay

[Anonymous No.54532715]

>>54531990
I really like this art style
Any more from this artist?

[Anonymous No.54532754]

>>54532659
Anonshop.app
Purse.io

Never used either, sadly

[Anonymous No.54532780]

https://youtu.be/la8LD_cTNcA

Thoughts? Is it really compromised?

[None !hPFV6Brm5A No.54532851]

>>54532715
I don't think we have any other Monerochans from them but this is their skeb profile: https://skeb.jp/@Hideout/works/167

[Anonymous No.54533074]

>>54532780
the algorithm is open source, point me where the backdoor/failure is and I will sell all my xmr and give half to you in btc

[Anonymous No.54533250]

>>54531839

[Anonymous No.54533256]

>>54532659
Cake pay gift cards and cake pay web cards is the best thing so far. I've used the giftcard function a few times without issue. Haven't tried the web cards function yet.

[Anonymous No.54533798]

>>54533250

[Anonymous No.54533984]

>>54533798
more like

[Anonymous No.54534055]

>>54533984
>>54533798

Why hasn't anyone tweeted these images to IRS?

[None !fxjPc9dvjM No.54534535]

>https://www.monerochan.art/

[Anonymous No.54534572]

>>54534535
I like the somber, graceful appearance.

[Anonymous No.54534718]

>>54534535

We're hitting Renaissance levels that shouldn't even be possible.

[Anonymous No.54535218]

>>54528414
Thank you for this post anon, i've almost missed that, fumos look very cute.

[Anonymous No.54535226]

>>54532754
>Anonshop.app
looks cool. has anybody used it yet?

>>54533256
i don't know about cake pay, but if you get an amazon/ebay giftcard from coincards it comes with a warning
>The redeeming Amazon.com account is required to have a second payment method added (Credit cards/Bank accounts) and a verified USA address. We also recommend not purchasing this card if you intend to use a VPN or TOR, as both will likely lead to an Amazon.com suspension.
I'm not very optimistic about it

>>54534535
you can tell she has descended to help us in our holy war

[Anonymous No.54535468]

>>54535226
>i don't know about cake pay, but if you get an amazon/ebay giftcard from coincards it comes with a warning
Yeah, it's not very cypherpunk, but if you already have and use and Amazon account, Cake Pay and Coin cards are good ways to supplement payments there. baby steps, I guess.

[Anonymous No.54535517]

I shall begin by asking you a hypothetical question: suppose that you were born and are now growing up in some miserable little village lost in some trackless prairies miles away from civilization. You have never seen anyone but a handful of dull, stagnant, brutalized people who spend their lives in the meaningless drudgery of the same routine of labor year after year, with no interest, no purpose, no ambition beyond the range of their immediate needs.

You are growing up with an incoherent, inarticulate sense of longing for something better, something beyond the meanness, the pettiness, the sordidness of the men around you. Whenever you are bewildered, disappointed, or hurt by people, whenever you encounter injustice and irrationality, you struggle to hang on to the formless hope that you will not surrender, that your life will have meaning, importance, and beauty, that you will reach something greater somehow, somewhere in some distant future. But you are not yet able to identify what that something is, you know it only in the form of a desperate emotion and your torture comes from those moments when you wonder whether your undefined ideal can ever be achieved in reality; whether the men around you are right, whether a lethargic resignation to pain and ugliness is all that's possible to men on earth.

[Anonymous No.54535544]

>>54535517
Now suppose that your only contact with the rest of mankind is a movie theater where a film is shown once a month. It is your only chance to catch a glimpse of the world beyond your native village. Ask yourself what will happen to you if that movie screen shows you New York, or if it shows you ten variants of your own village. Project the two alternatives. Either you see New York with everything it implies, with the kind of intelligence, energy, courage, ambition that created it, or you see the meanness, the sordidness, the futility, the despair of your own village staring at you from the vacant eyes and loose faces and senseless lives of the men in other villages. What will either picture do to you? What will it do to your view of life, to your values, to your soul, to your future? If you understand the difference that these two alternatives would make to you, you understand the nature and the meaning of art in human existence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKnuzzognqQ

[Anonymous No.54536590]

>>54528896
>>54529122
>>54530280
i'm sorry but it's true, more and more xmr exclusive darknet markets popping up yet transaction count is stagnant, even declining somewhat
it just shows that sellers are more enthusiastic, buyers don't want illegal goods

[Anonymous No.54536653]

>>54536590
>buyers don't want illegal goods

The Black Market
6000 BC - 2023 AD
RIP

[Anonymous No.54536954]

What is the current state of seraphis?
One of the last meetings koe said something along those lines that it's basically ready, just some refactoring and other small things.
So the next step would be security audit and it's ready?

[Anonymous No.54536997]

>>54532448
i sold something there for .3 XMR a couple weeks ago

[Anonymous No.54537019]

>>54536590
i.........

[Anonymous No.54538164]

[Anonymous No.54538372]

>>54535517
>>54535544
shit anon i think you lost your board /his/. anyway thanks for sharing i'll probably listen to it later.

>>54536954
i wonder if they are going to implement it in wownero

[Anonymous No.54539559]

[Anonymous No.54539693]

since when was monero available for purchase on binance????

[Anonymous No.54539710]

>>54539693

Since last Thursday.

[Anonymous No.54540472]

[Anonymous No.54540502]

>>54528414
Can you only pay using Monero or are there other ways to pay?

[Anonymous No.54540686]

>>54536653
>>54537019
you can't disprove the numbers so you just pretend they don't exist

[Anonymous No.54540993]

>>54540686
>you can't disprove the numbers so you just pretend they don't exist

The darknet has been crippled by an ongoing DDoS attack over the past year, dipshit, of course traffic has slowed down.

[Anonymous No.54541275]

https://nitter.net/disclosetv/status/1643988544665579520

[Anonymous No.54542022]

[Anonymous No.54542040]

>>54540993
>crippled
tf are you talking about nigger, i barely notice anything

[Anonymous No.54542131]

>>54542040
>i barely notice anything

no shit lol

[Anonymous No.54542151]

>>54517141
You're still here, you insane bastard?

Respect. You've been here for years.

[Anonymous No.54542508]

>>54516875

[Anonymous No.54542561]

[Anonymous No.54542595]

[Anonymous No.54542604]

[Anonymous No.54542697]

>>54542151
he is based as fuck

[Anonymous No.54542717]

[Anonymous No.54542728]

>>54542040
you're retarded. dread and most markets are being ddosed by a single person looking to extort them. because dread has been down many sites simply exit scammed so no shit transactions are down, everything on the darknet is down and/or exit scamming.

[Anonymous No.54542826]

[Anonymous No.54542864]

>>54542728
That's hardly the entire darknet, just use another market retard

[Anonymous No.54542897]

[Anonymous No.54542911]

>>54542864
>That's hardly the entire darknet,
Anything known or long lasting is being ddosed. People aren't going to use some new bullshit market with no reputation that will ALSO exit scam in 3 months.

>just use another market retard
I don't use substances, super pricey

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.54543235]

>>54542151
Every single thread.

[Anonymous No.54543370]

Monero cant survive without adopting Zcash's tech.

Just let that sink in.

[Anonymous No.54543729]

>>54543370
cringe zcuck faggot. Aren't you supposed to be bending your ass for glowniggers right now?

[Anonymous No.54543765]

>>54543370
decoys aren't "imitating" zk-snarks, they're a fundamentally different model idiot.

if something like mina holds up against multiple cryptographic audits and all i don't see any reason monero wouldn't switch to it.

use sound and simple crypto not magic tech that's barely been tested

[Anonymous No.54543843]

>>54543370
Ok. I still am not going to buy zcash because I have no interest in corporate backdoors.

[Anonymous No.54543994]

>>54542826
This one's awesome

[Anonymous No.54544554]

>>54543370
>my backdoored cucked coin

Anyways i want to ask anons couldn't we create wallets that uses biometric information to restore that wallet if you lose your seed, i mean not necessarily for monero but for other coins, a normie will lose his seed it will be fucking normal so i wonder what if you could create a wallet that lets say depended on your fingertips + eyescan or just eyescan to recover that wallet, i mean the goverment could have your fingertips and access your wallet but at the same time i am sure normies would like that convenience.

[None !hPFV6Brm5A No.54544661]

>>54540502
>Can you only pay using Monero
Of course

[Anonymous No.54545876]

Soon

[Anonymous No.54545916]

>>54543843
>>54543370
>Extremely tempted to get a Monero-chan fumo
>Will not be going to Prague any time soon so I'd have to get it shipped to clapistan and it'll probably cost a gorrillion dollars/xmr
Hmmm.

[Anonymous No.54545941]

>>54542728
Dread has been back up for month or so now and all the major DNM's aside from AB have been running

[Anonymous No.54545943]

>>54526346
I remember when atomic swaps were taking XMR to 20k, and then atomic swaps happened for BTC and ETH both, and the price shifted like 5 bucks.

[Anonymous No.54545977]

I wish monero would turn into the stablecoin of crypto. Just $150-200 forever.

[Anonymous No.54546221]

>>54545941
Is dread finally up on i2p?

[Anonymous No.54546257]

What keeps you guys holding this under performing piece of shit?

I don't know how you guys do it

[Anonymous No.54546294]

>>54545941
how to access?

[Anonymous No.54546386]

When is the next sale happening bros

[Anonymous No.54546427]

>>54527537
from fundamentals perspective looking at the price of anything in terms of fiat has long been pointless because of its emission. best you can do is compare price in terms of crypto-crypto but even then crypto itself is bought with fiat so performing TA is a waste of time imho. personally, i look at crypto projects in terms of technological innovation and future prospects. in that sense monero is second to none but i wish there was some sort of dao or something to manage development although monero devs seem to know what they're doing.

[Anonymous No.54546561]

>>54546257
Knowing that it's the best digital investment and cryptocurrency, just like gold

[Anonymous No.54546619]

>>54542717
Love the art style, would improve the face a little but keeping the style.
Keep it up anon.

[Anonymous No.54546650]

>>54540686
just because people don't talk about it doesn't mean they're not doing drugs. it's ok - took me 25 years to realize that myself.

[Anonymous No.54546788]

>>54535517
I should get to read some Ayn Rand, but her works always seem like they can be used as doorstops. Nice post either way.

[Anonymous No.54547720]

>>54546788
The Fountainhead is preferable to start out with. Despite the caricature of Rand it has no politics, it is a focused, personal story about the primacy of having values and integrity, and not living a secondhand or dishonest life.

>It is not in the nature of man--nor of any living entity--to start out by giving up, by spitting in one’s own face and damning existence; that requires a process of corruption whose rapidity differs from man to man. Some give up at the first touch of pressure; some sell out; some run down by imperceptible degrees and lose their fire, never knowing when or how they lost it. Then all of these vanish in the vast swamp of their elders who tell them persistently that maturity consists of abandoning one’s mind; security, of abandoning one’s values; practicality, of losing self-esteem. Yet a few hold on and move on, knowing that that fire is not to be betrayed, learning how to give it shape, purpose and reality. But whatever their future, at the dawn of their lives, men seek a noble vision of man’s nature and of life’s potential.
>There are very few guideposts to find. The Fountainhead is one of them. This is one of the cardinal reasons of The Fountainhead’s lasting appeal: it is a confirmation of the spirit of youth, proclaiming man’s glory, showing how much is possible.

[Anonymous No.54547804]

>>54519176
Ahhhhh. She got breded. Gud.

[Anonymous No.54548052]

Bros, when are we gonna see mass adoption of Monero? People in the Monero community has been telling me for years "just 2 more years" till it explodes. Yet, XMR seems to perpetually be a niche part of even the cypto community. I'm starting to lose hope.

[Anonymous No.54548177]

>>54548052
>Bros, when are we gonna see mass adoption of Monero?

There will be no mass adoption of ANY crypto, period. The future of digital currency as far as the mainstream economy is concerned belongs to CBDC Fedcoins.

If and when Monero "explodes" it will be due to it becoming the primary medium of exchange for the shadow economy and attracting a shitload of speculators accordingly.

Ultimately, Monero is still the comfiest hold because it is backed by bricks of uncut Peruvian marching powder whereas everything is backed by hype and hot air.

[Anonymous No.54548539]

>>54548177
>backed by cocaine
>adopted by ISIS
>adopted my cartels
>adopted by North Korea

With friends like these, who needs enemies

[None !hPFV6Brm5A No.54548592]

>>54546257
If I just wanted to make a ton of money quickly I'd dump all my Monero for CSGO cases/stickers/capsules.

I keep holding on bcs the Monero community is genuinely fun and the fundamentals are rock solid but most importantly, CBDCs havent arrived in the west yet.
They will come.
They will phase out cash and force you to use them.
They will be a dystopian nightmare.
I won't comply.

(monerochan is also a big factor)

[Anonymous No.54549301]

>>54548052
It's your problem when you fail to buy during a bear market

In fact I hope only the intelligent people buy and all of the idiots like you fail to see it

[Anonymous No.54550115]

is it viable to mine XMR with a laptop that has an intel 11800H and 115W RTX 3060 laptop? this thing has been sitting in my closet doing nothing for almost a year now

[Anonymous No.54551001]

>>54548052
it won't happen, monero is already banned in Japan
normies will never touch it if there is legal trouble involved with it

[Anonymous No.54551140]

>>54551001
>normies will never touch it if there is legal trouble involved with it

Normies not required.

[Anonymous No.54551166]

>>54551140
like I said, there won't be a mass adoption

[Anonymous No.54551648]

>>54551001
>monero is already banned in Japan
And isn't Japan already banned from buying Russian oil? LOL. When the need becomes great enough, people won't give a shit about the bans. Those who abide by the bans longest will lose out the most. Normies are always late to the party, by the time they show up it's usually too late for them.

[Anonymous No.54551727]

>>54546257
I just really REALLY hate the fucking government.

[Anonymous No.54551760]

>>54551001
>monero is already banned in Japan
isn't monero designed to be as unbannable as possible?
how did the nips do it bros...?

[Anonymous No.54551843]

>>54551760
the threat of sullying their name with money laudering enough

[Anonymous No.54552130]

>>54551760
>isn't monero designed to be as unbannable as possible?

If we run everything through the darknet, it is.

Monero GitHub gets shitcanned? Host it on the darknet.
Wallet apps get shitcanned? Host them on the darknet.
Subreddit/XMR Generals get shitcanned? Host them on the darknet.
Monero gets universally delisted? Buy/sell it on DEXs running over the darknet.
ISPs start port blocking nodes/mining? Run all that traffic through the darknet.

Get familiar with I2P, kids, odds are you're going to need to use it in the near-future.

[Anonymous No.54552243]

>>54546221
I think so, its up on tor though. Still being ddos'd but you can access, just have to change your circuit or id sometimes to get to the captcha. Also tor is close to a PoW solution for the ddos issues.

[Anonymous No.54552268]

>>54546221
>Is dread finally up on i2p?

Its coming soon, they've been teasing it for the past week or so.

[Anonymous No.54552619]

Let me ask this if we could a retard proof way to recover monero, what if when creating the wallet you use your iris to create those 2 random prime numbers that hash256 uses to create a seed, and then with the reverse process then i could imagine machine learning could be used to restore your wallet from a photo of your eye or well the fingertips of your feed or something. Basically i am sure biometric data could be used to restore wallets, what do you think of this idea.

[Anonymous No.54552890]

>>54552619
Terrible idea for privacy and security, iris scans are an already existing tech with databases that could be exploited

[Anonymous No.54553352]

>>54552890
>>54552890
What if you used a scan of your nutsack lol its just i think one big complain thats its true is that restoring seeds is one of the biggest barriers of entry between crypto and physical cash

[Anonymous No.54553675]

>>54551166
If the goverment eliminates cash then how are people going to buy their coke

[Anonymous No.54553923]

>>54551760
>isn't monero designed to be as unbannable as possible?
it can be banned but how are they going to enforce the banning? that's a mystery.
plus i believe that japan banned monero from being listed in CEX's, nothing else. you can still own it, use it and trade it.

[Anonymous No.54554076]

>>54552619
You can't use biometrics for cryptography because:

1. Biometrics usually don't have that much entropy in the first place.

2. Biometrics are "open source". You are constantly leaving fingerprints on everything you touch and face-scans on every camera you walk by

3. Biometrics work off of "soft" metrics like the relative position of visual patterns in fingerprints or eyeballs or faces. In other words, it's an analog secret. There's no such thing as an analog hash algorithm or because you have to deal with low-precision details (person's face and fingerprints change over time, sensor inaccuracy, lighting conditions, humidity, etc). If your hash/asymmetric key algorithm accepts values within a certain range, that breaks the premise which is that you can't make an improved guess of the public key or hash from a near-guess.

This is why if you have an android or iphone, you can set a fingerprint or face scan, but you can't use it to encrypt the phone's storage. You need a "real" digital passcode like a PIN to unlock it on boot.

If you want to use biometrics, tattoo a QR code onto your ass. QR codes are digital and have built in redundancy.

[Anonymous No.54554215]

>>54553675
gold

[Anonymous No.54554239]

>>54548052
Mass adoption is a meme.

[Anonymous No.54554864]

>>54542911

dark dot fail
and

daunt.link for maket linksss

[Anonymous No.54555700]

>>54553352
I dont see whats tough about having a copy of a seed in a safe or something simple. Unless you're Pablo Monescobar, at the moment, i doubt youre going to be targeted for theft IRL. If youre threat model is more stringent, then there are more secure options as well.

[Anonymous No.54555714]

>>54555700
amazing gif

[Anonymous No.54555743]

>>54555714
>Monerochan.art doing the lords work over there

[Anonymous No.54555754]

>>54555714

[Anonymous No.54555763]

>>54555754
>invalid View key
KEK

[Anonyɱous No.54555828]

>>54516768
>OneKey
Doesn't support xmr.
Keyst.one is working with featherwallet.org to get xmr support. Might be a bit more time though.

[Anonymous No.54555872]

>CaptainBlackbeard Radio New Episode!
thoughts on this podcast?

[Anonymous No.54555904]

>>54555872
Love it, i made a torrent of episodes 1-17 on /t/

[Anonymous No.54555924]

>>54555872
>thoughts on this podcast?

Based and piracypilled.

[Anonymous No.54556679]

[Anonymous No.54556681]

>>54555872
what is it about?

[Anonymous No.54556991]

Reminder that Zcash will crush this compromised shell game within the next 24 months.

Screencap this.

[Anonyɱous No.54557030]

>>54556991
the smart jews use only xmr. denounce the talmud!

[Anonymous No.54558142]

>>54545941
>Dread has been back up for month
Yes and the connection has been pretty shit, though better this last week.
>all the major DNM's aside from AB have been running
A few other markets just exit scammed. Forgot the names but you can see it on dread.
>>54546294
Within Tor browser use the main Dread link. Should be able to find it on tor.taxi or on r/DreadAlert or Daunt.link etc. If you have HugBunter's PGP key you can verify the links but I will say that I believe it is dreadytofatroptsdj6io7l3xptbet6onoyno2yv7jicoxknyazubrad

[Anonymous No.54558155]

>>54545943
>I remember when atomic swaps were taking XMR to 20k
I don't know who believed this but it's obviously not going to do anything. You can add swaps to every single chain and it wont do shit because everything else is manipulated up and down at the whims of those who profit (binance, coinbase etc)

[Anonymous No.54558808]

>>54558155
Cool fud, I'll remember this

[Anonymous No.54558824]

Fellow enlightened gods

I would like to remind you, the marketcap of gold is 10 trillion, the marketcap of silver is 1 trillion, the marketcap of bitshit is near 1 trillion, there are 20 blatant scams with a combined marketcap of over 500 billion that have more mcap than xmr, we only have 3 billion, the room to grow is immense

You are early

[Anonymous No.54558950]

>>54556681
Its a radio show, so its music and comedy bits based around the main character blackbeard, a dnm weed vendor. Kind of like a darknet variety show

[Anonymous No.54559481]

>>54558950
where can i listen to it? i mean the easy way.

[Anonymous No.54560026]

>>54558142
>I believe it is dreadytofatroptsdj6io7l3xptbet6onoyno2yv7jicoxknyazubrad
the queue system is shit.

[Anonymous No.54560046]

>>54555924
source of the pic?

[Anonymous No.54560068]

>>54531839
I ain't paying.

[Anonymous No.54560083]

>>54556991
Yeah that meme should be reversed. chainAnal fears the Monero

[Anonymous No.54560145]

>>54531839
Reminder of what we do it for

[Anonymous No.54560353]

[Anonymous No.54560392]

>>54560046
>source of the pic?

[Anonymous No.54560393]

>>54560353
The big thing under her is giant monero wallet.

[Anonymous No.54560431]

>>54560145
>Reminder of what we do it for

Based and obesitypilled.

[Anonymous No.54560499]

>>54559481
Endchan on the /CaptainBlackbeard/ board has the individual files for dl

[Anonymous No.54560503]

>>54560431
murica needs to be destroyed rn fr. its like a cancer that is spreading to the rest of the world

[Anonymous No.54560555]

>>54560503
>murica needs to be destroyed rn fr. its like a cancer that is spreading to the rest of the world

Sad but true.

[Anonymous No.54560594]

>>54560555
god have mercy

[Anonymous No.54561087]

>>54545916
shipping is included in price, try because you pay in xmr and you can just not send the payment if you want

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.54561809]

>>54560503
>>54560555
Get back to me when your busted ass nations do something like go to space or create the internet or something of note. Until then keep seething about our broad daylight twerk competitions and copious dairy, LOSERS

[Anonymous No.54562053]

lol the comments here are hilarious

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/12j1v79/most_of_you_will_probably_hate_these/

[None !hPFV6Brm5A No.54562125]

>>54545916
Free shipping and everywhere DHL sends parcel size M to.
Check here if your country is supported: https://www.dhl.de/de/privatkunden/pakete-versenden/weltweit-versenden/preise-international.html


Update on the certs:
Printshop says ETA is 21-25th

[Anonymous No.54562196]

>>54562053
They seem to think that a privacy coin being backed by illegal activity is a bad thing. 'Legitimizing' Monero undermines its utility.

[Anonymous No.54562336]

>>54562196

Its how moonfags think: "anything that potentially harms Monero's respectability lessens the likelihood that normies and MUH INSTITUTIONAL INVESTORS will jump on the bandwagon and pump my bags."

So fuck em, they're only in it for the lambos. Anybody that actually NEEDS Monero will use it regardless of how demonized it is, either it works or it doesn't.

[Anonymous No.54563109]

test

[Anonymous No.54563470]

>>54516744
bump

[Anonymous No.54565112]

[Anonymous No.54565923]

>>54555872
Wow.. this is incredible.

[Anonymous No.54566170]

What evidence there is for price supression, i saw that cryptocurrency threath in reddit where a guy posted the metcalfeusd law, https://moneroj.net/metcalfeusd/

And technically monero should be at least over 1000$ according to this metrics however what other evidence there is for price supression, to be honest i still want the price to be supressed i want monero to be cheap however the coment in that place says price supression cant work for long, why and also how is price supression happening?

[Anonymous No.54566395]

>>54560503
tell me about it...

[Anonymous No.54567617]

are there any tor or i2p services to explore monero transactions? I have stage 4 schizophrenia and I don't think anything stops the government from IP logging people that use one of those monero block explorer sites

[Anonymous No.54567628]

>>54560392
post-wall whore

[Anonymous No.54567731]

>it takes 20 minutes for a transaction to confirm

Small negative.

[Anonymous No.54567747]

>>54567617
>are there any tor or i2p services to explore monero transactions? I have stage 4 schizophrenia and I don't think anything stops the government from IP logging people that use one of those monero block explorer sites

http://moneroexplorer.i2p/

[Anonymous No.54567773]

>>54567731
>>it takes 20 minutes for a transaction to confirm
>
>Small negative.

Zero-conf is near instant, first confirmation takes up to 2 minutes.

[None !hPFV6Brm5A No.54568029]

>>54567731
>>54567773
as someone who has used XMR for buying and selling goods and services both p2p and in webshops:

>both buying and selling p2p
delay doesnt matter at all, zeroconf mostly fine, first 1 or 2 confs while you're still chatting with the other person

>buying via webshop
from njalla:
waiting the full 10 confs to pay 15$ (+10% for the privilege of being able to use crypto) can get quite annoying

from services like cakepay that know their shit and have what i assume are different conf limits for different amounts:
id use Monero over paypal any day, just need to keep your hotwallet topped up


>selling things via webshop
super chill, even with 20 minutes delay, I still have access to the funds days before any regular payment provider would settle


so in conclusion, the only problems coming from the delay are services that think XMR isn't fully final until the 10 blocks are over and when you forgot to top up your wallet and are just short when trying to pay for something

[Anonymous No.54568088]

>>54556991
>two more years

[Anonymous No.54568145]

>>54568029
any recs on doing p2p swaps? what's your fee/ what location do you recommend for meetup?

[Anonymous No.54568184]

>>54562336
The security apparatus needs monero more than we do to do black market international deals with terrorist groups and mossad

[None !hPFV6Brm5A No.54568289]

>>54568145
while i meant p2p still online, just via text chat, consensus for p2p trading is meeting in a public place with CCTV.

Can be a bank lobby or a caffee in public, with the latter looking less suspicious when it takes longer (matters if you trade BTC and it can take 40 minutes for just 1 conf, which you absolutely need thanks to replace-by-fee).

This is from the bisq wiki: https://bisq.wiki/Face-to-face_(payment_method)#Meeting_your_trading_partner

[None !hPFV6Brm5A No.54568351]

>>54568289
if you bring someone with you, make sure to first check with the other person if it is alright. especially first time meetups can be stressfull and many would just bail if they expect one guy but suddenly there's someone else with them.

for monero, make sure your wallet was recently synced before the meetup.

[Anonymous No.54568413]

>>54568351
Ok that makes sense, these are some good details thanks

[Anonymous No.54569170]

>>54568029
10 confirmations is completely retarded for a trade unless you are trading like 10 million dollars and you are paranoid. for most trades zeroconf is good to go and if you want to be cautious just wait for one or at most two.

[Anonymous No.54570164]

Still not too late to get in on Zcash.

ZKP is the future.

[Anonymous No.54570450]

>>54567747
cokes for literal downies

[Anonymous No.54570587]

>>54570164
ew

[Anonymous No.54571985]

>>54570450

Retard highs matter.

[Anonymous No.54572150]

>>54570164
It's just sad at this point. Give up.

[Anonymous No.54572433]

>>54570164
>Globohomo art

[Anonymous No.54572588]

>>54570450
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=G0f6xLRE8hc

[Anonymous No.54572897]

>>54562125
so cute!

[Anonymous No.54572983]

i love xmr so much

[Anonymous No.54574233]

>>54572983

Based

[Anonymous No.54574407]

>>54572433
>art

[Anonymous No.54574761]

Is haveno dead?

[Anonymous No.54575299]

>>54574761
There's this but given the rate things have been going this is probably meaningless
https://github.com/haveno-dex/haveno#status-of-the-project

[None !hPFV6Brm5A No.54575517]

>>54574761
Not at all. There is daily activity on the github, they are close to launching with the legacy UI and Cake will finance the new UI.

[Anonyɱous No.54575744]

>>54570164
>>54572433
>>54574407

[Anonymous No.54577331]

>>54575299
>>54575517
maybe Haveno can have some actual good development now that that absolute faggot ErCiccione is gone.

[Anonymous No.54577904]

Are mordinals still a thing or is it over?

[Anonymous No.54578018]

>>54577904
It's over unfortunately, the NSA cut funding last minute. Turns out that shilling trannies and minorities in the Monero community is a better way of undermining Monero

[Anonymous No.54578260]

>>54578018
Are you saying we still have mordinals? Have miners updated their wallets

[Anonymous No.54578285]

>>54578260
It's still "on paper" possible, but https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/8733 means finding enough nodes to actually relay that transaction is probably a fool's errand.

[Anonymous No.54578393]

>>54570164

You will never be a real woman. You have no womb, you have no ovaries, you have no eggs. You are a homosexual man twisted by drugs and surgery into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.

All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.

Men are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed men to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even trannies who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a man. Your bone structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy home with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected axe wound.

You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.

Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably male.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

[Anonymous No.54578833]

>>54556991
>Reminder that Zcash will crush this compromised shell game within the next 24 months.
>Screencap this.

The phrase "I'm retarded" is only two words and would have taken so much less energy to type if you absolutely had to shit up another thread with your existence.

[Anonymous No.54579119]

>>54560068
I went on Amazon and bought a bucket of pre-mixed permanent asphalt repair kit for about 20 dollars. By fixing just one pothole I have contributed more to my city that my own city government has but I get charged more than triple that in state tax to receive nothing in return. Not clean drinking water, not roads.. not even police to so much as open a ticket for attempted murder (twice). To quote, not paraphrase - "are you sure he wasn't homeless? There are homeless people near that area" Is how they answered my calls when I tried to submit video evidence of the encounter to the police station. As long as people keep paying taxes for nothing, things are going to stay the same.

[Anonymous No.54579170]

>>54579119
meant to say than*, not "that"

[Anonymous No.54579404]

>>54578393

The tranny shit is played out, chud. Get new material.

[Anonymous No.54579465]

>>54578833

Is this supposed to be FUD? Using the shielded pool as a pass-thru is a known no-no. Try again.

[Anonymous No.54579536]

>>54579404
>The tranny shit is played out, chud. Get new material.

Hmmmmm, lets see......nope, still not a woman.

[Anonymous No.54579555]

man the monerochan lora is great

[Anonymous No.54579871]

>>54579465
two words: trusted setup

[Anonymous No.54579996]

>>54579871

Trusted setup is gone now, midwit.

Zcash is coming for that throne....

[Anonymous No.54580351]

>>54579996
ur right, the same CEO zooko that said Zcash should be backdoored said trusted setup is no longer used, I just sold all my Monero ty for lookin out for us

[Anonymous No.54580451]

>>54545876
this looks fun, wish i could go

[Anonymous No.54580678]

When I think about it monero is actually not that private? Let's consider a situation where I buy XMR on an exchange, sent it to my wallet, then buy a domain by it... If the feds seized the domain registrar, they could know the tx by which I paid for the domain. If the feds seized the exchange too, they can link the stealth address on chain and my KYCed account on the exchange, thus they can extract the personal information of the guy who bought the domain at probablity of 1/16 (the current RingCT size). 1/16 is not a negligile probability? Why is mental outlaw shilling this shit. Why don't the monero devs move to fully SNARKed privacy like ZEC? ZEC doesn't have this problem. Besides the tokenomics ZEC is simply better in terms of privacy.

[Anonymous No.54580703]

>>54580678
>they can link the stealth address on chain

Based undercover MoneroChad.

[Anonymous No.54581186]

>monero isn't that private when I give personally identifying information to a corporation that can be seized

[Anonymous No.54581837]

>>54580351

Backdoor FUD is so 2017

[Anonymous No.54581842]

>>54580678
Send to a different address after you withdraw from the exchange, problem solved

[Anonymous No.54581866]

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