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I have been paying for shit with cards for years, of course the government knows 90% of my expenses. If i ever wanted to buy something illegal i could just pay in gold or with some sort of barter.
Its already illegal for me to spend money on a lot of things. Already i cant wire money to like a third of the world because of political and bank shenanigans

>> No.54511910
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only buy what we want you to goy... fuck off

>> No.54511923

>>54511910
But thats the case already

>> No.54512076

Centralized monitoring in live time by the gov. Cash will go away. Then 0 privacy. If (((you))) can't see this it's on (((you))). Now that it's fully visible to the gov. Now tie in green deal bullshit tied to ur money.
Too much water usage
>-5% of total funds
Too much electricity on top of paying bill?
>-5% of total funds
Drove too much this week
>-5% total funds
Ate too much meat this week
>-5% total funds
Sped above the posted limit for 30 secs
>-5% total funds
Can keep going, don't be a child.

>> No.54512091

gee why wouldnt i want more gov control in my money

>> No.54512124

>>54512076
>Centralized monitoring in live time by the gov.
Already exists if you pay anything with cards or checks
>>54512076
>Then 0 privacy.
You mean the gov will watch me poop? When the government knows what you buy that doesnt mean 0 privacy, plus you can still buy your drugs with gold. DRUG DEALERS WILL ADAPT THEY WONT ASK FOR CASH IF CASH DOESNT EXIST
>>54512076
>Too much electricity on top of paying bill?
These sorts of controls already exist in many ways. For utilities its common that the price will be low below some threshold and they spike when you use a lot. This is a thing that exists today and isnt done worse because of some CBDC.

>> No.54512132

>>54512091
>more gov control
Its not more, its the same control they have now which is: All of it.

>> No.54512179

Its already impossible to send cash to Al Qaeda, you have to use a network of middlemen that will get themoney to some normal person in Pakistan that takes it from there. Same thing could be done with CBDC, these middleman are perfectly capable of bartering and smuggling gold to earn their fee

>> No.54512191

>>54512179
I mean, to send them cash directly by using the normal banking system. Illegal finance uses gold, drugs and corrupt banks like Credit Suisse

>> No.54512231

>>54511901
I've been saying this for awhile now. CBDC is just as fake and gay as USD. If they say I can't buy something, I'll just buy something that I'm allowed to and then barter for the thing I want. Blocking a transaction is like blocking a website, it's trivial to get around it.

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54512237

bored anon would rather fud and do nothing than propose solutions like new laws for money

>> No.54512260

>>54512231
This is true. The free market will always find a way, but it will still be annoying. We should build the alternative systems before they try to close the gates

>> No.54512287

>>54511923
No it isnt you cuck if you like being a bitch forever go ahead leave the people that want to be free alone

>> No.54512308

>>54512124
>Lets just give them ultimate control because they are already monitoring you Logic!
Nigger

>> No.54512319

>>54512124
Nobody wants to have a visual of your defecating asshole, because you're worthless. The "liberal" globohomonegro theocracy will shape the way workers express their opinions, consume, labor, knowing they're being watched and are incentivized to be aligned in body and soul with the faceless bureaucrats.

>> No.54512322

>>54512287
>No it isnt you cuck
You cant legally buy drugs or wire money to Al Qaeda or North Korea. You cant even travel with large amounts of cash because it gets confiscated or just taxed if you are lucky

>> No.54512330

>>54512308
>ultimate control
Its the same control, its not more control
You are so buckbroken. Your ancestors were horrified by paper money and today you see cretins demanding their right to REAL HARD CASH in the form of paper notes from the US treasury

>> No.54512331

>>54511901
Me using my crypto gains to fill a paddling pool with cheetos to roll around in

>> No.54512339

>>54512260
Barter is the alternate system. Eventually people will figure out how to barter metal coins and things will go back to normal.

>> No.54512342

>>54512319
>will shape the way workers express their opinions, consume, labor
>will
What a prophet

>> No.54512525

>>54511901
Government will now they buy Belle Delphine bath water

>> No.54512794

>>54511901
fear of something they dont understand

fiat comes out, people refuse to let go of gold/silver coins
>"One world currency! Metal is the only real money!"
credit/debit come out, people refuse to let go of their fiat,
> "one world currency! what happens when the power goes out! government will control your money!"
CBDC comes out, people refuse to let go of the credit/debit system
> "one world currency! EMP to the grid and its gone! Government will control your money!

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>> No.54512831

>>54512819
All of that is already possible with the current system

>> No.54512835

>>54512831
not to anywhere near the same degree and i think you know that

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>>54511901

>> No.54512874

If you don't want to live in a totalitarian dictatorship don't give the powers that be the tools to enforce a totalitarian dictatorship.
retard

>> No.54512914

Based bee boy.

>> No.54512922

I know you are at Shill HQ posting this but for other anons I will post this:

https://www.return.life/p/cbdcs-in-their-own-words-technocrats

>> No.54512939

Leftists today: Love war. Love authoritarianism. Hate free speech. Love a totalitarian government controlling every aspect of your life. Hate freedom.

>> No.54512952

>>54512132
They have control, but its slow and opaque.
Cbdc can make that control near instant

>> No.54512986

Clearly this an international plot to promote Hawala.

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>>54511901
Regardless, this will bring more traction to crypto, I'm going long.

>> No.54513409

>>54512952
Yeah, it will snuff out any form of privacy left financially.

>> No.54513432

The problem is, just because your government doesn't care about you buying drugs right now, doesn't mean it won't in the future, and considering carbon taxes and cbdcs could fit together and you wouldnt be able to buy anything even if you have money, if you exceed your carbon emissions. Just an example of how cbdcs can help authoritarian governments

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One currency to rule the cattle, one currency to chip them all, one currency to buy the bugs and in the pods bind them.

>> No.54513593

>>54512076
No politician with that platform could ever get voted into office. Democracy prevents this.

>> No.54513603

>>54512287
>No it isnt
Yes it is, you blithering idiot.

>> No.54513627

>>54512831
>make money
>pull money out of bank
>spend how I want with no digital record on my end

Alternatively
>ask to be payed in cash or a check
>physical funds that never see the bank

>> No.54513655

>>54512124
>Already exists if you pay anything with cards or checks
hey Einstein,
what about the stuff i dont buy with those?

>> No.54513753

>>54511901
we're freaked out because CBDC will fail and bankers are really gambling on it. The digital yuan failed in China, so good reason for it to fail in US

>> No.54513816

>>54512124
>You mean the gov will watch me poop?
No but the government can and will forcibly cut off your ability to pay for your water bill for "green energy" reasons and you'll be stuck with stinky poo poos in your toilet bowl until THEY decide you can flush again
>>54513593
>He thinks we live in a democracy
>He thinks this needs to be voted on
>He thinks this is up to politicians
Couple of EOs here, couple sprinklings of "green incentives" to bring the Fortune 100 into line, and voila` no one needed to vote on anything!

>> No.54513831

>>54512794
we see you moron, the dollar will collapse

>> No.54513848

>>54512794
Credit/debit systems came before the existence of fiat
Fiat enables reckless expansion of the currency supply through credit/debit games
Fuck you people are dumb, these are the braindead discord trannies really trying to convince the little chuds that communism is the way to go?

>> No.54514341

>>54511901
look at that honey whore covered in plant spunk for a little nectar