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In the third genuine attempt to get a single valid reply:
ETH is taking the wrong route to scale, Or at least the incomplete and lazy route (Basically gave up on trying to scale and let 3rd parties do all the work). The roadmap isn't future proof, And by that i mean in terms of elegance and security, Scaling through L2s is a very bad idea long term, I can't even imagine a whole financial system worth trillions of dollar being at such a risk of:
>Running on the most complex contract known in cryptography, This open the floodgates for the sophisticated hackers to find endless vulnerabilities
>Unconstrained circuits means ZK can lead to silent exploits, Meaning hacks that go unidentified, More so, It allow in some cases random proofs who don't even make sense to be accepted. This is dangerous to the point it's irresponsible ever shilling this kind of tech in parallel to "security" let alone one who should run the whole financial system
>Extremely centralized by nature and parasitic on its users, Decentralizing the sequencers will come at cost of scaling and then you get to point zero and ask yourself wtf is even the point of this shit?
>Will face state-bloat problems like any L1 that doesn't scale horizontally, especially ZKEVM which's the most overrated shit the Ethereum community ever shilled
>Countless of additional security assumptions that make this thing inherently more insecure than most garbage L1s out there despite the "shared security" red herring and frankly, sociopathic and delusional narrative i see circulating at the moment

We're pushing scaling narratives that's limited to ETH limitations, This is disgusting and definitely not how this space should progress, I believe the ETH maxis phenomenon is considerably more dangerous and juvenile than BTC maxis

>> No.54439132

>>54439113
shorten your post

>> No.54439135
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Some other major problems in design:
>Impossible composability and interoperability
>Fragmented liquidity
>Terrible UX/UI, The average user will never be able to use ZK "properly"
>Poor finality, Which's in addition to being extremely inconvenient, Also decrease the protocol security
>Storage wasting on the DA
>Dexes running on Rollups are regulatory comparable to CEX, Meaning that your Uniswaps will be as regulated as your Coinbases, Which defeat the point of running decentralized exchanges to begin with.


Pic related makes you wonder why we're prioritizing a scaling solution that cover 2-3% (Sub 2% among POS protocols) of all exploits while increasing ten folds the risk of exploits that cover 80%+ of all hacks.

>> No.54439212

>>54439113
too long, didn't read, not selling

>> No.54439214

>>54439113
Its not great but what l1 is your pick

>> No.54439345

>>54439113
Don't care, already sold. ETH is gay

>> No.54439403

>>54439345
this. pos = piece of shit
only poor and desperate retards will try to refute this

>> No.54439464

ETH isn't that the tranny chain that cancels web3 devs for wrongthink?

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>>54439113
Ethereum scaling failed but Avalanche succeeded.
It improves on everything, better consensus protocol, better staking mechanism, better scaling solution (subnets), faster finality.

>> No.54439579

>>54439113
>Or at least the incomplete and lazy route
This is the reason, however it’s purely a function of being an established product with infinite gamblers
>(Basically gave up on trying to scale and let 3rd parties do all the work)
No, the team accomplished the merge, they have new talent attracted to the space because money, scaling/sharding is happening.

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>>54439214
BSV unironically.


It even has smart contracts: scrypt.io

>> No.54440620

>>54439113
scaling will come through optimistic rollups
retard
zk rollups is latest narrative hype
let the vcs make their money and come back in five years and actually see if they're used widely in production

>> No.54440640

>>54439135
how can you be so "smart" and yet so dumb?
ccip is coming this year
do some proper reading and come back in 3 months

>> No.54440696

Is it safe to connect a trezor to myetherwallet?

>> No.54440748

because i'm nice here's some reading to start
https://medium.com/offchainlabs/optimistic-rollups-the-present-and-future-of-ethereum-scaling-60fb9067ae87
https://l2beat.com/scaling/risk

>> No.54440794

>>54440748
Arbitrum? Isn't that a VC scam?

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>>54439113
Let the nerds handle it dumbass. You clearly don't know what you're talking about

>> No.54440835

>>54439113
i told you in the first thread that literally none of this matters. the incentives are such that there will be a cryptocurrency based economy with participants who are willing to tolerate the risks and inefficiencies inherent to cryptocurrency for the shot at sovereignty and ownership. the openness and modularity of the crypto financial system ensure that it will be able to solve its problems, innovate, and attract new users much faster than tradfi and none of your gay complaints will do anything to stop it.

>> No.54440921

>>54439113
ETH is ailing over its own weight, ETH 2,0 didn't have the effect everyone thought it would have. Going forward, they need to lighten the load on the network, focus a bit more on their community like Ore is doing and scale better.

>> No.54440949

>>54439212
Your loss. Awesome read.

>> No.54441013

>>54440696
DYOR mate, haven't you got a community you trade with that you can trust? Do some studies, talk to trusted crypto folks, some of the things I did that got me into Ore Network... hehe

>> No.54441098

>>54440794
the vcs are taking their blood for funding them, yes
but their tech is miles ahead of anything else
as long as the decentralization of the sequencer is completed through chainlink fss then the vc vultures can do as they like with the scam gov token

>> No.54441177

>>54440835
>modularity
Isn't a desirable philosophy, It's literally, by definition, the least elegant approach to scaling.

The rest of your comment sound like a copy paste of every pajeet L1 ever shilled on this gay forum and doesn't counter any of my points.

>> No.54441361

collect your NFT at
opensea.io/travallo

>> No.54441370

unironically ccip

>> No.54441412

>>54441098
Arbitrum will never decentralize the sequencer bro it is basically profit sharing. when in the history of the world have jews ever shared profits with random goys?

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>>54441177
>sound like a copy paste of every pajeet L1 ever shilled on this gay forum
No one is going to answer to your gish gallop pasta.