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54363137 No.54363137 [Reply] [Original]

All of your chatgpt queries will be logged immutably on the hedera hashgraph (ticker: hbar) and you will be prosecuted for any antiemetism, questioning the holocaust, or anything unlawful. There will be no more “Dan” or breaking of the system. Fuck YOU goyim.

>> No.54363434

BUMP

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>>54363137
>>54363434
checked

>> No.54367415

Bump for bizcels

>> No.54367759

>>54363137
give it up with the hbar shilling, now it is just getting embarrassing. do the math on the fees atma.io is paying. There's no way any enterprise would ever accept this.

I agree in principle with the concept of tokenization that hedera is aiming to do, but the truth is that company will be paying $6k USD per day minimum in fees just to get their barcodes of their made in china consumer retail goods logged into some centralized ledger.

>> No.54367841

>>54367759
(continued)

Plus, even though hedera charges fees in USD, you still must pay the equivalent to them in HBAR. So while the fees are predictable, what kind of enterprise is going to load up their wallets that are fluctuating in value to pay fees to get on a network full of NFTs and Grelf tokens to keep track of their supply chains that are tracked well enough already?

It is a solution looking for a problem, the current system works well enough. We forget how much EFFORT it takes to carry out this total enslavement of all humanity. I'm sitting here looking at a mug on my desk. You really think that these mega corps will slash their profit margins and start dishing out thousands of USD a day to Hedera Corp just so that they can have a metric on how much carbon this ceramic unlabeled mug made in Xinchang province cost them? They are looking to save every penny. These cheap consumer goods will never be tokenized with Hedera's current business model, and the day that Hedera stops giving the free HBARs to atma.io this project would be cancelled immediately. It also drives ZERO revenue for businesses. Go to a department store. They are already struggling. Why pay millions of dollars a year to move all that retail made in china garbage?

>> No.54369908

>>54367841
I agree in most parts. But to some of your points: they dont need to stack the hbars and hope that the price stays the same or goes up. They just buy it kets say at the start of each day, so price action wont really matter for them.
Second i agree that i cant really see how atma.io benefits from this. But for something like the coupon thingy i see the upside. What is it? 90% of all ads are useless, but companys dont know what the 10 usefull % are. So imagine they run on the hashgraph. Imagine you can get the coupons by scanning a QR code while a tv add. Now the companys know exactly what TV ad is the most usefull, at what time they have to stream their add to get the most out of it. Seems usefull for me.

>> No.54370475

>>54367841
atma.io tps slows down when their account is low on hbars. This level of activity probably indicates the tps we will see after their grant runs out. Meanwhile, the fees are free so 'why not offer the service as a trial?' must be their thinking. Will still scale up eventually but these things take longer than planned. Maybe price will rise eventually too.

>> No.54370541

https://www.atma.io/digital-product-passport

You guys don’t know shit.

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>hbar
>heres your future of finance bro
lmao. Hbar back to 3 cent EOY.

>> No.54371204

>>54369908
yes but that just requires a unique identifier. Token not needed. That doesn't need to be a hedera app. It would cost way less to just have that on AWS. Every single social media ad is already tracked the way you just described, each ad has a unique click identifier which is attached to where/when it popped up. That can just be appended to the coupon.

t.software developer

>> No.54371385

>>54369908
also keep in mind that this is nothing like the process of paying for AWS. Usually AWS just watches you and monitors your activity over the month and gives spend estimates, then sends you a NET30 bill. This is how big corporations pay for AWS, there is no such thing as pre-loading. Are you seriously suggesting that daily pre-purchases would have to be made in order for the system to not cause fluctuations in price? And then what if the transaction quantity was variable? Atma.io is super convenient because it seems to be some automated system running always at consistent 700tps in circles sending consensus messages. Web traffic and app usage for major applications is variable throughout the time of day, week, and season. Now, imagine this elaborate system required just to pay for access to the network, and then on top of that the value of these tokens is tied to the value of NFTs and memecoins? You think that fortune 500 is all going to switch on the system? It was very believable before Hedera allowed DEXes and Meme projects - but now this whole picture is absurd. None of this is decentralized, and nearly half the board of directors gets to comprise of the earliest customers to the service? absurd.

>> No.54371611

>>54370541
>>54369908
>>54370475

You think that when you buy a shirt at walmart its going to just conveniently have logged every aspect about its journey from bangladesh and all of its manufacturers? That's a fun hackathon concept app built in a weekend for a demo, but the implication of how every single private company is going to have to share its data? They dont have in-house teams that are just happy to allocate resources. It is a huge ask, and not something handled at the government level

Lets say the government makes it totally mandatory and does lock-down global co-ordinated regulation that manufacturers are going to do this. You think they'd pick Hedera tokens to do it with? They would have their own system that the board of directors is the UN or an international body related to regulations on interstate commerce. They would not all be using Hedera tokens (alongside the monkey pictures) and the board of directors led by the current guys.

>> No.54371680

>>54363137
Hbar is the globohomo coin

>> No.54371955

>>54367759
>>54367841
>>54371174
>>54371204
>>54371385
>>54371611
Holy fuck you goyim are retarded.
$100 Hbar 2030. I hope you all Kys.
>t. software dev
you are diversity tier. imagine even trying to equate aws cpq you stupid stupid motherfucker

>> No.54373068

The fucking state of that seething cunt lol

>> No.54373742

Checked

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>>54371680
ZENOBIA WAS THE QUEEN OF PALMYRA WHO REBELLED AGAINST ROME. ROME WAS THE GLOBOHOMO OF THE TIME BUT HBAR IS THE GLOBOHOMO COIN NOW. THE ROMAN EMPEROR AURELIAN, RESTORER OF THE WORLD AND THE SUN GOD, SMOTE IN HER IN THE PAST FOR HER TREACHERY. YOU MAY ASK, "WHAT DOES THIS MEAN, ISN'T IT BEARISH TO HAVE TRAITORS WITHIN OUR RANKS?". WELL HER LAST NAME MAKES IT CLEAR. GODSCHALK, MEANS GOD'S SERVANT. ZENOBIA GODSCHALK MEANS GOD'S SERVANT. ZENOBIA GODSCHALK NOW OBEYS GOD. WHO IS GOD? IN THE PAST AURELIAN WAS GOD AND THE RULER OF GLOBOHOMO EMPIRE. WHO IS THE GLOBOHOMO NOW? THE MESSAGE IS CLEAR. ZENOBIA HAS REINCARNATED TO REPENT FOR HER SINS TODAY AND IS NOW SERVING HBAR. EXTREMELY BULLISH.