Any Germans?

[Anonymous No.54261159]

Is Steuererklaerung hard to do yourself for investment returns?
When you are over Steuerfreibetrag or what it's called but you don't want to pay a (((Steuerberater)))

[Anonymous No.54261200]

No but I'm looking to move to germany
What the best city to move to that isn't a degenerate or post-soviet shithole?

[Anonymous No.54261213]

south european here looking to move to germany, what's the best med friendly city in germany?

[Anonymous No.54261314]

Why would it be hard, all u do is put in a number of ur profits/tax deduction and pay it... all the proof u just keep in case they dont believe ur report

[Anonymous No.54261344]

>>54261314
>all the proof u just keep in case they dont believe ur report
What proof? it's all on my phone?

[Anonymous No.54261748]

>>54261344
If you use any German broker you'll get a Jahressteuerbescheinigung (JStB) by April or so, it will show all your gains, losses, and paid taxes. Just use it to make your taxes. Either use some tax software you could rip for free or use something like TaxFix. They will guide you through the whole process and use some standard methods for standard deductions to save you some more money, but they will take a few bucks. Alternatively join a Lohnsteuerhilfeverein, they are more expensive (100€ per year, it depends) but they do all the work for you.

[Anonymous No.54261821]

>>54261748
Thanks. Can i do it in paper too or do i need to use this ELSTER bullshit?

[Anonymous No.54261863]

>>54261213
dusseldorf

[Anonymous No.54261871]

>>54261213
If you aren't muslim you won't have it hard anywhere exept maybe rural Bavaria or Saxony.
Your best bet is a city with a university that offers many courses in humanities or social studies. Said city will have many lefties and the most welcoming population (in general) but then you'll need to come along with the most degenerate people. You'll probably be alright everywhere if you aren't a drug dealer.

[Anonymous No.54261920]

Alaman dreck versucht hier wieder steuern zu hinterziehen? Alhamdulillah kleine drecks kartofeln ihr zahlt schön eure 50 % steurn ich brauchte einen neuen amg. Kleine drecks alaman lieben es vom staat in den arsch gefickt zu werden, echt die größten opfer auf dieser erde ich schwör.

[Anonymous No.54261940]

>>54261871
Why are you recomending leftist shitholes to him

Might as well just say Berlin

>>54261213
You speak the language? If not gtfo, joking (not really), a university city is recommended, the rest is preference of weather, people and terrain

[Anonymous No.54261947]

>>54261821
Eh, we're talking about Germany so it's possible on paper, go to bzst(dot)de and they have the needed printouts for you.

[Anonymous No.54261954]

>>54261159
>what it's called but you don't want to pay a (((Steuerberater)))
Jude

[Anonymous No.54261985]

>>54261159
What is the best city in Germany for being able to live around actual Germans?

[Anonymous No.54261998]

>>54261940
Because leftist shitholes will be the best for Ausländer when it comes to friendlyness. And I did warn him about the downsides of said leftist shitholes.

[Anonymous No.54262003]

>>54261159
I use WISO Steuer from Buhl, it is like a digital tax assistant and it helps you finding tax loopholes and maximizing tax returns. As long as your annual salary is lower than 500.000€ it's the best option. Anything higher you should get a good assistant who gives you further instructions how to dodge taxes.

[Anonymous No.54262020]

>>54261200
>but I'm looking to move to germany
that's why I moved to somewhere else in 2020. born and bread German here. thanks for paying taxes.

[Anonymous No.54262025]

>>54261200
Munich, but it's also the most expensive one there is. If you prefer it a bit cheaper but still comfy I'd suggest Heidelberg or Trier.

[Anonymous No.54262041]

>>54261985
Look at the crime census and pick the city/Landkreis with the lowest crime per capita, or Mennonite communities in the US unironically.

[Anonymous No.54262101]

>>54262025
someone in another thread recommended the towns just outside of munich. is it cheaper out there? can you still get to work in the city?

[Anonymous No.54262103]

>>54262041
What about if I just want to visit Germany on vacation and spend the time in someplace not full of Turks and negroes?

[Anonymous No.54262122]

>>54261200
Munich, least amount of niggers but also expensive
If you want cheap + no niggers, go to eastern germany

[Anonymous No.54262144]

>>54262101
yeah you can, public transport works fine for that. Dont go too far out though.

[Anonymous No.54262159]

>>54262122
my family is originally from chemnitz, how is it over there?

[Anonymous No.54262271]

>>54262103
SE, E, NE Germany, no big cities.

[Anonymous No.54263870]

>>54261985
Actual Germans don't want filthy immigrants around them though so you're better off going to a big city like Köln or Hamburg where you can interact with people that are technically Germans but still tolerate filthy immigrants

[Anonymous No.54264350]

>>54261159
>Is Steuererklaerung hard to do yourself for investment returns?
Depends on the complexity of the investments.
>When you are over Steuerfreibetrag or what it's called but you don't want to pay a (((Steuerberater)))
The Finanzamt will assume you are cheating and assume you are hiding something, expect to need proof for whatever you claim.
Typical scenario:
You declare correctly.
Finanzamt tells you they assume you need to pay more. (depending on the amount of commy the commy working for the Finanzamt is, spectrum between normal worker not thinking at all, environmentalist commy, and complete Marxist.)
You need proof you declared correctly.
If you don't have sufficient proof (perfect documentation of trades done etc. Software recommended by others in the thread), you need to pay what they assume, and criminal charges will be filed.
It is completely irrelevant if your statement is correct, all that counts is the proof you have for it being correct, Finanzamt is based on guilty until proven innocent principle.

Some preemptive action might be to contact the commy, tell him that you're clueless and ask what they need, the first contact might be nicer this way.
But don't assume the commy to be on your side, friendliness on the Finanzamt side has to be assumed to be a trap of a commy wanting to take everything you have.
You are dealing with Beamte, the worst that can happen to a finanzamt-commy is the finanzamt-commy having to work at a different Finanzamt, they have immunity.

[Anonymous No.54264378]

>>54262159
Actual literal commies

[Anonymous No.54264397]

>>54264378
as far as the Finanzamt is concerned

[Anonymous No.54264422]

>>54261159
you dont need to declare your profits when you're over the steuerfreibetrag, the bank will give the finanzamt all the data they need.

[Anonymous No.54264444]

>>54261200
koeln, duisburg, mannheim , you're welcome fren

[Anonymous No.54264463]

>>54264444
>köln
>mannheim
>not degenerate

[Anonymous No.54264522]

4444
looks like the numbers are trying to tell us something about the cities.