/XMR/ Monero General

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/XMR/ Monero General Anonymous Tue Mar 21 20:03:20 2023 No.54248437 [Reply] [Original]

Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptocurrencies. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier to entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Binance
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Kucoin
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 20:04:37 2023 No.54248459 File: 577 KB, 1298x900, 162614854231641471.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] PREVIOUS THREAD: >>54197372

Anonymous Tue Mar 21 20:05:42 2023 No.54248488
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START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL
START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.

>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!

OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

Anonymous Tue Mar 21 20:06:44 2023 No.54248518
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*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****

Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.

>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org

>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable

>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin

>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD

>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail

>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug

>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero

>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill

>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill

>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill

>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

Anonymous Tue Mar 21 20:07:50 2023 No.54248548
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Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/services

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/

>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Buy silver bullion with XMR (US only)
https://monerosilver.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Win XMR!
https://monero.win/

Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>AlphaBay STATUS UNCLEAR!!
>Archetyp
>Astra #
>Asur Market
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Dark Matter
>Darkmoon
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Mellow Market
>Retro Market
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/yaUPVLvk

>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/

Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Elude
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/AnkqVGjp

or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/

>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 20:08:06 2023 No.54248553 >>54248437 I dont have any monero, can I fuck this fine gentleman somehow?

Anonymous Tue Mar 21 20:08:53 2023 No.54248586
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START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE

>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.

>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!

>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.

>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest

Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest

The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

Anonymous Tue Mar 21 20:09:55 2023 No.54248614
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>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 20:15:28 2023 No.54248766 File: 932 KB, 2048x1903, 1679429642553.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Decided to open up my monero node to the public. Located in waterloo Ontario if anyone wants to use it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 20:24:12 2023 No.54248987 File: 172 KB, 1554x668, 2023-03-21_232109.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] will we moon? XMR/BTC - it seems now, the trending line is RED. Why you guys think it should go green? Is there any background monero should moon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 20:27:00 2023 No.54249038 File: 998 KB, 1920x1080, 167896234763424.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54248987

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 20:30:48 2023 No.54249129 File: 21 KB, 400x300, monero-not-asic-compatible-400x300.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anything that isn't PoW is a scam. Anything that isn't ASIC resistant is a scam.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 20:32:35 2023 No.54249186 I'm here for the boobies

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 20:38:33 2023 No.54249337 File: 127 KB, 1080x1080, as6g54as65f4g.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit Tue Mar 21 20:41:15 2023 No.54249401
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Reporting in
##################################
IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

Anonymous Tue Mar 21 20:53:47 2023 No.54249750

>>54248987
>Why you guys think it should go green? Is there any background monero should moon?
CBDCs are around the corner, regulations only increase, every other coin is fundamentally unprepared for the inevitable adversarial/regulatory environment, darknets and shadow economies won't disappear as cash is phased out around the globe but rather adopt to the path of least resistance which will be an untraceable crypto
even 0.1% of the shadow economy utilizing monero would equate to a 5-figure price tag
but we aren't here for that
we are here for freedom
not selling because you can't put a price-tag on freedom

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 20:54:01 2023 No.54249757 >>54248437 Monero looks like THAT??

Anonymous Tue Mar 21 20:54:53 2023 No.54249786

>>54249337
Ok, that's pretty funny. I think Monero might spread when CBDCs start edging closer, however, we need to get the word out there that CBDCs are evil (because they are) before the masses are brainwashed into accepting them. They will pick CBDCs every time if we do not put in the work to influence the public.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 20:55:38 2023 No.54249803 File: 40 KB, 500x618, very rare pepe.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54248437 Do you have to pay a 3rd party wallet service for mixing in Monero?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 20:58:27 2023 No.54249881 File: 250 KB, 1080x1320, FrwNCETWcAAnP6y.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54248437 Backdoored glowie coin. Enjoy your "privacy" lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 20:59:29 2023 No.54249903 File: 412 KB, 2048x1536, 1555206218912.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54249881 Stop and think about how utterly retarded you sound.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 21:02:30 2023 No.54249966 File: 151 KB, 384x384, 1650546809911.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54249803 >Do you have to pay a 3rd party wallet service for mixing in Monero? Nigga, this ain't no Bitcoin.

Anonymous Tue Mar 21 21:04:48 2023 No.54250017

>>54249881
This just seems to be FUD with no basis for it, and even if it's true he had no access to Monero in any way at that time.

There is no backdoor, everything is FOSS, and he wasn't even a maintainer at that point (he stepped down from all duties in 2019 IIRC).

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 21:09:09 2023 No.54250123 File: 300 KB, 900x506, 564B819E-9E34-427E-B65C-DB53022A778E.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54249881 We already kne Glowy pony

Anonymous Tue Mar 21 21:12:25 2023 No.54250207
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>Trusted technology, growing adoption

Zcash was launched by one of the most respected technical teams in the world.

Zcash is the 'https of blockchains,' protecting your freedom to save and spend as you like.

Zcash was the first project to implement zk-SNARKs, a novel form of zero-knowledge cryptography that gives its users the strongest privacy available in any digital currency.

Multiple, independent organizations are funded to innovate on Zcash.

Zcash is already available on top exchanges, digital wallets and a growing number of applications.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 21:14:02 2023 No.54250246 >>54249966 What about GUI?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 21:14:10 2023 No.54250248 File: 1.28 MB, 1145x3404, G63gsFs7wbnasGVs3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is what Monero chuds dont want you to know. Buy Zcash if you actually want to make it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 21:16:26 2023 No.54250308 >>54250248 Zcash is literally government funded turdworld goyslop

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 21:20:03 2023 No.54250395 >>54250248 >tl;dr: another wall of text

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 21:23:17 2023 No.54250492 File: 106 KB, 313x439, 8435245.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54250207 >>54250248 Not even enough ztrannies to start their own general. Kek cope and seethe, zooko sucks fed nuts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 21:25:32 2023 No.54250556 File: 241 KB, 1600x900, FqTMtS2aUAQ045R.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54250308 >>54250308 >>54250395 The coping never ends kek Sooner or later, reality will punch you in the face.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 21:28:24 2023 No.54250637 File: 584 KB, 1920x1080, 1678561374198835.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54250556 Security so goo that the majority of the user base dosent even bother to use it kek. Privacy by default is the only way zcuck

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 21:30:52 2023 No.54250714 File: 468 KB, 1125x623, Virgin vs chad.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54250556 >can’t even make quality memes

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 21:31:51 2023 No.54250750 Bumping my post from last thread because I was too dumb to realize that a new thread was made >>54250645

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 21:32:57 2023 No.54250785 File: 824 KB, 1920x1080, 1698746389.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54250714 Full sized.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 21:34:24 2023 No.54250829 File: 103 KB, 676x898, 1663431963150164.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54250750 https://www.reddit.com/r/Prestium/

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 21:42:10 2023 No.54251032 >>54250829 Based

Anonymous Tue Mar 21 21:48:11 2023 No.54251184
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>>54250207

Friendly reminder that you can't use the Zcash logo for any app or project without first getting approval from their legal dept, if you try they'll promptly issue a takedown order.

Cypherpunk as fuck!!!!

Anonymous Tue Mar 21 21:51:30 2023 No.54251271
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>>54250829
That looks neat, but I'm looking more for something that operates as an isolating/transparent proxy the same way Whonix does so I can run services regularly with a decreased chance of leaks. Thanks anyway, anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 22:12:21 2023 No.54251736 File: 203 KB, 1433x1573, You dropped this king.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54251184 omegalul

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 22:16:30 2023 No.54251828 File: 436 KB, 900x1664, 105887417_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reporting in, fuck Bitcoin.

Anonymous Tue Mar 21 22:17:45 2023 No.54251857
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>>54248614
I was already predisposed to believe this conclusion, however the author seems to completely missunderstand how mining economics works. I can't believe noone has pointed out the obvious flaws. I'll write my own article in the near future addressing this, because understanding the economics of mining is crucial is we expect monero to gain mass adoption, I think this topic is very misunderstood.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 22:19:21 2023 No.54251896 >>54251184 so cringe

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 22:26:06 2023 No.54252030 >>54251184 nice, fuck scammers and their scmmer apps, and FUCK YOU

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 22:26:39 2023 No.54252050 File: 285 KB, 2048x1158, 1637322770464.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54251857 Fees Go Up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 22:31:00 2023 No.54252144 >>54248586 >i2p trash that doesn't work due to easy ddos

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 22:39:26 2023 No.54252341 File: 329 KB, 336x462, 168305738421.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54252144 >trash that doesn't work due to easy ddos kek report back in a week when Dread relaunches on I2P

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 22:42:33 2023 No.54252398 >>54252341 >Dread relaunches on I2P lol, lmao even

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 22:43:27 2023 No.54252420 File: 1.35 MB, 498x273, 1664909982902123.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54252398

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 22:46:27 2023 No.54252471 >>54250248 Monero's at least stable, Zcash is only dumping

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 22:55:40 2023 No.54252638 What happens to existing NFTs once the size is limited to 1kb?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 23:05:18 2023 No.54252833 >>54249803 >mixing in Monero what do you mean fren? what is your purpose?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 23:08:21 2023 No.54252887 File: 18 KB, 591x128, CyberHornets!Assemble!.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54251828 I fucking hate CBDC coin.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 23:12:33 2023 No.54252978 File: 596 KB, 1080x1534, Saylor Gensler.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54252887

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 23:14:03 2023 No.54253004 File: 135 KB, 718x1163, Fru85zHWAAI5rK8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54252978 Encrypt everything.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 23:15:06 2023 No.54253028 File: 133 KB, 1916x1077, saylor you need monero.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54253004 >I guess that's why you need monero

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 23:15:26 2023 No.54253036 >>54252978 has he used bitcoin to pay for something before? lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 23:19:58 2023 No.54253119 >>54253036 I'm pretty sure like all maxipads the only thing he cares about is pumping his bags. If he has to suck circumcised cock and resort to regulation begging he will gladly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 23:27:10 2023 No.54253265 >>54252638 nothing, they will stay in the chain 4ever

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 23:42:31 2023 No.54253550 File: 803 KB, 1170x1308, Screen Shot 2023-03-21 at 4.41.26 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] OH NO NO NO MONEROFAGS Even Nassim Nicholas Taleb is making fun of you for falling for this glow operation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 23:47:56 2023 No.54253654 >>54253550 Why should I care about what that Arab thinks when he can't even bother to get his facts straight?

Anonymous Tue Mar 21 23:51:32 2023 No.54253725
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>>54253654
You should maybe care that fluffypony is an interpol asset who helped the police deanonymize monero users.
Or continue using this backdoored glowing piece of garbage to buy drugs and child porn on the dark web.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 21 23:55:06 2023 No.54253794 >>54253725 Where's the backdoor? Surely you can point it out im the code and aren't just making shit up right anon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 00:08:20 2023 No.54254000 >>54253794 Idk ask fluffypony how he was able to save his ass from jail by helping the UK police trace monero transactions. I'm not the one who wrote the code retard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 00:10:11 2023 No.54254035 >>54254000 Oh so you are just a faggot making shit up after all.

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 00:18:23 2023 No.54254166
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>>54253725
>who helped the police deanonymize monero users.

Explain in detail how this is supposed to work.

>>54254000
>Idk

Oh, right, you have no idea what you're talking about.

"I'm just asking questions!"

Faggot.

See, kids, this is a classic FUD technique: make vague allusions to something nefarious without actually providing a plausible scenario for how it all supposedly went down.

This particular FUD effort is especially retarded since Monero's code is 100% open source and always has been, meaning there is nothing Fluffy could possibly give Interpol that isn't also obvious to other devs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 00:20:31 2023 No.54254198 >>54254000 >Idk Yeah clearly you don't. Go watch breaking Monero. That summarizes what we already know about Monero's weaknesses.

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 00:30:17 2023 No.54254359
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Anyone here done a complete read through of Zero to Monero? Is it feasible for someone that doesn't know much about coding but wants to have a deeper understanding of the tech?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 00:32:05 2023 No.54254393 >>54254359 >Is it feasible for someone that doesn't know much about coding but wants to have a deeper understanding of the tech? Probably. I think that's what it means by "Zero".

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 01:01:51 2023 No.54254801 File: 147 KB, 850x753, FdawzcNXwAAMcOL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Zcash wins.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 01:07:41 2023 No.54254874 when is the update to end the mordinals thing?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 01:15:01 2023 No.54254944 >>54253550 The vaccines and boosters he took have scrambled his little mind. Many such cases.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 01:16:55 2023 No.54254976 >>54252978 >The only quality that matters for something to be "global money" is that it's not considered a security by some American Jews Kek

>>	None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit Wed Mar 22 01:19:25 2023 No.54254999 >>54254874 https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/8733 If you compile the latest version you have it.

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 02:46:27 2023 No.54256212
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>>54253725
Name one case in which monero was actually broken to de-anonymize a user. No, not people whos failures in their opsec go them caught, not tracing bitcoin back to them through unrelated transactions, actually breaking monero.
Ill wait.

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 03:09:34 2023 No.54256582

>>54217291
>>54217901
>>54218088

Monero and Zcash are cryptocurrencies designed to provide privacy and anonymity in their transactions. Monero achieves this through a transaction mixing system called RingCT, while Zcash uses zk-SNARKs encryption technology. However, both cryptocurrencies can compromise a user's privacy if a "dumb" user reveals personal information or follows predictable spending patterns. It is crucial for users to adopt good privacy practices to protect their identities and financial activities.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 03:15:06 2023 No.54256652 >>54256582 >Revealing personal information That is not a case of cryptocurrencies compromising a users privacy. Thats just bad opsec.

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 04:45:08 2023 No.54257701

>>54256652

Yeah, the guy is arguing that outputs between Eve1 > Alice > Eve2 would deanonimyze Alice, where Eve1 is presumably buying something "bad" from Alice, which then *immediatly* exchanges it for USD with Eve2 (KYC), and Eve1 and Eve2 are colluding to catch Alice. In such scenario there's no way Monero would protect Alice.

No one can infeer Alice's indentety just by outputs alone. Although in this specific scenario outputs could corroborate other evidence that revealed Alice's ID.

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 04:48:16 2023 No.54257738

>>54257701
So then is it best practice to funnel shady transactions through a proxy wallet?

Should Monero wallets do this by default?

Obviously in the case of Eve1 > Alice > AliceTemp > Eve2 you can't deanonymize Alice even if Eve1 and Eve2 are colluding

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 06:57:27 2023 No.54258812

>>54241062

This was from previous thread, an anon asnwered why the lead i2p java implementation developer has left the project.

I did some more digging, and it seems like there has been a total shitshow within the i2p community.

It all starts with this stupid "inclusion statement": https://geti2p.net/en/contact

Scroll all the way down on the page, and you will see a really out-of-place comment, saying, "[...]we do support lgbt[...]"

Now this statement is one that's unasked for. Nobody was assuming that the java i2p devs were being discriminatory towards lgbt individuals. Writing such an inclusionary note towards one specific group of "oppressed minorities" __is__ a political stance. And this seems to have caused a shitshow in the community.

Next up: see this: https://archive.is/rjzlu
Now, we see zab (!) has came back from his hiatus? He was the developer of MuWire (which is a music sharing program for i2p), who had announced that he would be stepping away from the project like a year ago. Now all of a sudden he is back and apparently the aforementioned "inclusionary statement" has annoyed him so much that he has lost his mind and started a flamewar in the i2p irc chat. The chat logs can be seen in the private bin paste in the archive link.

Then , on the same thread, we see our friend (!) justin (he has the tendency to be found whereever the lgbt stuff gets criticized for its polarization).

Now, I would agree with Justin here, because if you read the i2p irc chat logs that is linked above, zab has totally lost his shit and somehow making the association that including that lgbt notice makes the java i2p devs nazis (wtaf??). However, justin, also losing his shit, starts blabbering "maybe people like zab deserve that inclusionary statement just for the reason that it makes them chimp out" --- like, justin, wtf for fux sakes...

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 07:04:02 2023 No.54258871
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>>54258812
Anyways, the whole thing is a class A shitshow that has cost the java i2p project a valuable and skilled developer (zzz, if you are reading this please come back).

And this case should be an example why Monero should stay ABSOLUTELY NEUTRAL against this stupid american left-right political spectrum.

Monero is simply a tool, and it doesn't care about the politics of its users. Whether used by a fag or a fash, Monero will work the same. It will do all it can to protect the transaction privacy of its user.

So, Monero should never include such phony "inclusionary statements" for the sole reason that most of the time those statements function as "exclusionary statements" (which is a common theme with american leftists---inverting the meanings of words to give a "fake nice" facade to their annoying policies---Read Ted Kaczynski's manifesto, he talks about this).

And once Monero takes a left-right political stance as its own "official" one, then that opens up Monero to subversion, whether it is cultural subversion and erosion of cypherpunk ideals, or it is code subversion whereby a "back door" gets introduced in order to "make Monero traceable enough for the neonyahtzees" (sounds familiar? looking at you, the zcucks).

Anyways. Sieg heil and have sex you incels.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 07:33:39 2023 No.54259072 >>54254359 Mastering Monero might be a better place to start depending on how deep you want to look at the technical details. Zero to Monero is extremely good, but it is also extremely technical.

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 07:51:42 2023 No.54259184
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> fluffypony in full damage control over his status as an Interpol informant
> s-steady lads
This is honestly the biggest scandal that has every shaken the Monero community. How can we trust Monero as the currency of the darknet when the founder and main contributor is glowing?
I'll stick to BTC with Samourai Wallet or LTC with MWEB. Monero is dead.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 08:26:01 2023 No.54259369 >>54259184 >no link to the full thread You are a faggot

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 08:27:54 2023 No.54259379 >>54253550 https://twitter.com/librehash/status/1637907642638008325 Better explanations.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 08:46:57 2023 No.54259486 >>54259379 >it's real cause GPT4 said so! Holy keks. Even if any of this is true, what could fluffypony have given them that wasn't already in mastering monero?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 09:42:14 2023 No.54259866 Hmm I see. So the usual fud how ring signature don't work, how there is inflation bug etc no longer works so now they are attack individual characters. Fully could be pounding little boys and it would still not make the code less secure.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 10:02:48 2023 No.54259998 >>54259866 >Fluffy could be pounding little boys h-hot..

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 10:04:37 2023 No.54260014 >>54259379 wtf he actually asked GPT4 and used it as evidence. How retarded can you be.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 10:27:36 2023 No.54260181 >its a glowie honeypot!!!1 >>54259184 See>>54256212 Weak and retarded fud.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 10:29:24 2023 No.54260198 >>54248437 is mymonero compromised? https://twitter.com/librehash/status/1448555077753442307

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 10:40:21 2023 No.54260278

>>54258871
>And this case should be an example why Monero should stay ABSOLUTELY NEUTRAL against this stupid american left-right political spectrum.
this. americans want you to care about gay sex and what Disney or Marvel movie is coming out next. For the rest of the world, monero is a tool for the white men and his kids to live in a peaceful world without jewish influence

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 10:52:29 2023 No.54260353 >>54259998 That's the kinda thing that gets you fucked up anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 12:32:35 2023 No.54261367 i want to FUCK monero-chan!

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 12:58:15 2023 No.54261707 MONEROMARKET.IO

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 13:12:06 2023 No.54261932 >>54261707 I don't have anything I want to consoom

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 13:19:50 2023 No.54262040
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>>54258812
>>54258871
thank you for taking the time to write this.
what a shitshow has the i2p java community delivered to us, it was pretty funny.
i share zab disgust for the "inclusionary statement" because i think they are giving a step away from the neutral zone.

why every company/product/person feels the need to be taking a political stance?
can't they just fuck off?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 13:23:54 2023 No.54262121 If 4chan allows XMR payments for passes I will buy one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 13:30:24 2023 No.54262244 File: 139 KB, 1280x697, xmr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the deal with this paper? Can someone give me the low down on how fixable this attack is?

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 13:35:42 2023 No.54262335
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>>54262244

Horseshit rehash of previous study the devs ripped to shreds on r/Monero.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/ogs2k1/analysis_of_transaction_flooding_attacks_against/h4kxlx9/

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 13:38:54 2023 No.54262386 File: 58 KB, 588x559, Screenie_19.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54262244 apparently this paper's bullshit, just FUD

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 13:40:42 2023 No.54262423 >>54259184 It's time to move to grin. Once coinswap is live monero will be 100% obsolete.

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 13:41:14 2023 No.54262433

>>54262335
I didn't read it but the abstract says it reduces the anonymity set by 8-9, so it'd be applicable to size 11 rings, not just in the past like that other study
>>54262244
That being said Seraphis will increase the anonymity set massively in the very near future.

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 13:50:17 2023 No.54262575
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>>54262433
>I didn't read it but the abstract says it reduces the anonymity set by 8-9, so it'd be applicable to size 11 rings, not just in the past like that other study

Theoretically, under ideal lab conditions where there are no other flooders. That is the fatal flaw with flood attacks: they require exclusivity and control over a super-majority of outputs, as soon as somebody else gets the same idea the two attacks cancel each other out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 13:51:30 2023 No.54262599 File: 42 KB, 324x405, 1675362843774489.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54262423 >It's time to move to grin. Once coinswap is live monero will be 100% obsolete. Convince the free market and it shall be so.

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 13:56:42 2023 No.54262710

>>54262575
Has there even been evidence of a flood attack happening or having been conducted?
I don't think exclusivity is a "fatal flaw". It would only be fatal if there were multiple concurrent attempts at flood attacks running at all times, so they would all be pointless and any additional attempts would be pointless. But as long as zero flood attacks are running, any single entity is free to try to start one, and they just need to get lucky enough to not coincidentally do that at the same time as another entity - not that much of a stretch if almost nobody ever bothers launching one in general. And that paper says you only really need a short-term attack and the returns are rapidly diminishing in the long term.

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 14:00:43 2023 No.54262785

Ok anons in that fud threat i found something that actually scares me

https://twitter.com/librehash/status/1638055753016639494
https://research.kudelskisecurity.com/2023/03/06/polynonce-a-tale-of-a-novel-ecdsa-attack-and-bitcoin-tears/

Plz tell me anons if they manage to break bitcoin wallets can they break monero wallets as well

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 14:06:22 2023 No.54262901

>>54259184
>How can we trust Monero as the currency of the darknet when the founder and main contributor is glowing?
Need I remind you that Tor was built by the literal US navy. Glowies building this sort of stuff isn't really new, cus they need it too. At the end of the day if the math checks out then there's no issue.

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 14:16:22 2023 No.54263077
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>>54262710
>But as long as zero flood attacks are running, any single entity is free to try to start one, and they just need to get lucky enough to not coincidentally do that at the same time as another entity

Don't forget that the community is fully capable of mounting a TX spamming effort if the need arises, which would amount to the same thing. It would bloat the chain that much more but would nullify the flood attack and discourage further attempts, they ain't free.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 14:23:51 2023 No.54263219 File: 113 KB, 1484x629, SherlockHolmes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54262785 This is the galaxy-brained genius who uses AI prompts as a crystal ball lmao

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 14:24:46 2023 No.54263240

>>54259184
>founder

Fucking zniggers fucking glowies and fucking moonboys asking for regulation, you fucking faggots are the antithesis of crypto, the masculine energy required to dethrone the banking system requires man with ideals that don't beg for regulation otherwise all the fucking centralized shitcoins like zcash will be not diferent from our current system, i would love to beg my goverment for gibs and i would love to trust the institutions and to give them my money so they can take care of me but the reality is you need to be stupid to do that, if mother goverment and
egulation was everything it was needed then satoshi wouldn't have invented bitcoin, the point of crypto is to say fuck regulation from corrupted nation-states and all the shitcoins that kneel to them get regulated out of existence, fucking stupid retarded zniggers

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 14:27:12 2023 No.54263283 >>54263219 what's the deal with all these retards using GPT-4 to basically do the high-tech equivalent of ancient divining rituals AI was a mistake

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 14:30:40 2023 No.54263361 >gov can't read our thoughts so they can't prevent crime >HURR DURR gov should regulate our thoughts do your worst, xmr is banproof glowniggers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 14:32:47 2023 No.54263410 >>54263219 I hope we get some decentralized super AI that works in the phones of everyone like fuck i hope i don't share the same destiny as this type of retard that trusted fauchi and now chatgpt

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 15:13:02 2023 No.54264207

>>54262785
Interesting, ignoring the twitter brainrot, the attack still seems unusable on Monero.
>A minimum of 4 signatures generated by the same private key
The more signatures the better. However, in order to guarantee unlinkability there are only one time addresses that are used only once. Furthermore, the vulnerability seems to focus on weak PRNG, but Monero has its wallet generation quite stadardized compared to Bitcoin. (the percentage of people using the official Monero GUI/CLI is much higher than the percentage of people using the BTC core wallet).

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Anonymous Wed Mar 22 16:35:56 2023 No.54265774

good morning monerochads,
how did you guys go about creating a mascot? there's a few open source projects that i'm a fan of (not cryptocurrencies) that are talked about in /g/ but i'm not sure how i'd commission one organically and with everyone's thoughts

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 16:47:16 2023 No.54265965
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>>54265774

Monero-chan was birthed by a 2017 Japanese crypto site, along with a whole bunch of other chans. However, only Monero-chan gained traction organically and the rest is history.

Picrel is the first ever Monero-chan.

https://crypto-currency-girls.com/monero/

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 17:12:02 2023 No.54266456 File: 734 KB, 608x803, 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54248437 Your participation needed: Global. Hyperinflation General /GHG/ >>>/pol/420646897

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 17:17:34 2023 No.54266569 File: 73 KB, 450x450, 1679505412197.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54266456 >Visiting /pol/

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 17:18:50 2023 No.54266597 >>54266569 > t. semite

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 17:33:53 2023 No.54266955 >>54248437 haveno when?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 17:36:16 2023 No.54267006 >>54262121 why isnt this a thing already?

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>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 18:37:54 2023 No.54268767 >>54267006 they use a coinbase account

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 18:53:54 2023 No.54269341 >>54266955 Never probably

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 19:13:31 2023 No.54270003 >>54262121 >>54267006 what's stopping you from - xmr to burner btc wallet (sideshift, atomic swap, bisq) - pay for pass

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 19:14:48 2023 No.54270056 >>54263219 >using gpt this fud has gone beyond ridiculous

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 19:19:40 2023 No.54270205 >>54270003 his low IQ, bot scam post

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 19:48:57 2023 No.54270986 >>54270056 Its fud to convince the lowest iq twitter mouth breathers and blank ammunition for the equally low iq fudders to screenshot while shilling their garbage.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 19:51:06 2023 No.54271054 >>54269341 could you elaborate? erchiccione got shitcanned or left last year so I thought we'd see some progress. or did vik shut it down basically?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 19:51:52 2023 No.54271071 File: 859 KB, 1250x2250, 1677263590909843.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54265965 Based monerochan historian

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 20:08:44 2023 No.54271574 >>54263219 who cares? even if he did, monero is secure untraceable money for nearly everyone, including those who want to be able to buy everyday purchases with it without having the merchant track their wallet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 20:19:49 2023 No.54271895 File: 83 KB, 898x606, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54270986 >Its fud to convince the lowest iq twitter mouth breathers and blank ammunition for the equally low iq fudders to screenshot while shilling their garbage. Pretty much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 20:26:55 2023 No.54272060 >>54271054 I know as much as you. It was supposed to be done last year or so, so I have very low expectations. Contrary to popular belief, the UI and simplicity will be very important and well, you saw the shitshow involving that side of the project.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 20:29:18 2023 No.54272122 File: 231 KB, 1200x1326, CIA & FBI.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54249881 >Backdoored glowie coin. >Enjoy your "privacy" lmao MyMonero wallet is the back door glowie tech, Monero itself isn't.

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 20:34:10 2023 No.54272218

Whatever actually happened or happens with this dumb drama, all I know is I'm gonna buy in and stay in whatever coin drug lords and darknet vendors deal in, they're the only people on the planet that have a large enough vested interest in untraceable private money for me to trust.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 20:38:09 2023 No.54272287 >>54272218 >I'm gonna buy in and stay in whatever coin drug lords and darknet vendors deal in based and CIA pilled

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 20:38:11 2023 No.54272290 File: 295 KB, 1079x719, g9soxfwa76q61.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54272218 Based take. Criminals have always been front runners in security tools and techniques.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 20:41:43 2023 No.54272367 File: 124 KB, 1200x770, use_cases.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54272218

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 20:41:54 2023 No.54272368 Inorganic paid pro Monero spam from you glowies, every day. Fk off with your scam

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 20:42:54 2023 No.54272393 File: 1.32 MB, 1274x530, CopeHarder.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54272368

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 20:46:28 2023 No.54272495 File: 52 KB, 499x500, 1678872576565892.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54272368 >I-i-its a scam... Because i said so! Zcash baggies make you own general

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 20:59:10 2023 No.54272732 >>54272368 #1 currency of darknet markets

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 21:03:28 2023 No.54272811 >>54263240 BASADO

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 21:05:36 2023 No.54272842 >>54272368 you guys can make your own general, y'know? it's not that hard, i'd be willing to help you out

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 21:38:21 2023 No.54273417 >>54271895 >ziontrash shill saying where there's smoke there's fire loving every laugh

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 22:28:31 2023 No.54274360 >>54253725 >>54254000 Point to the backdoor or shut the fuck up. Never mind actually, we both know you have no knowledge of cryptography and just made this shit up.

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 22:30:37 2023 No.54274393

>>54257701
I was the person arguing against them. I don't think you're understanding his concerns (though, I think they are unfounded).

He's saying that transactions which include "bad" outputs in the ring could be considered "tainted" since they have a nonzero probability of being illicit funds.

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 22:31:37 2023 No.54274414
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>>54259184
>>54260198
>>54262785
>>54271895
>>54272368
This is funny, but is nobody gonna mention that
1. Fluffy stepped down in 2019
2. he got arrested in 2019
3. nobody uses MyMonero seriously

So even if Fluffy and that's an IF he cooperated with everything, literally nothing happens. Otherwise, nothing happens.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 22:33:13 2023 No.54274443 >>54274414 >he got arrested in 2019 ffs, it was 2021. So small correction there.

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 22:34:17 2023 No.54274462
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>>54259184
Cool, you weren't using Monero in the first place and are concern trolling. No amount of astroturfing is going to change our minds as Monero continues to out compete bitcoin on darknet markets.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 23:14:00 2023 No.54275100 >>54248553 She will come to you in your sleep only if you buy 69 XMR

Anonymous Wed Mar 22 23:38:23 2023 No.54275472
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>>54248437
So anons, you say that this coin is absolutely not pozzed and cannot be cracked nor is traceable???
There has to be some sort of catch, it can’t be this perfect. I can’t believe I’m considering getting into crypto, is this really the only one I’ll need?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 23:43:02 2023 No.54275552 File: 264 KB, 827x1181, 1689724578245.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54275472 >?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 22 23:47:59 2023 No.54275619 >>54275472 It's too good to be true, we know. The math is sound and simple, even someone with zero crypto background could get up to speed in it in a couple of weeks. >Feel free to ask any questions and a monerochad will be with you shortly.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 00:09:00 2023 No.54275964
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>>54275472
>too good to be true
Monero is a tool, not some monolith like most currencies baggies claim theirs to be. Read into it, learn the principals of opsec while youre at it, monero might be the DN goto, but privacy is for everyone, not just buyers and vendors.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 00:20:09 2023 No.54276112 >>54275472 >There has to be some sort of catch no government is going to approve monero

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 00:33:09 2023 No.54276321 >>54276112 No government is going to approve of any crypto currency when cbdc's are rolled out. Thats why security is essential

Anonyɱous Thu Mar 23 00:42:22 2023 No.54276464
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>>54275472
It's just about perfect. Our current issue is the mordinal menace though we aren't getting hit hard like bitcohen. The coredevs are debating their options to correct.
The two biggest complaints from newfags is wallet sync and restore height. Currently, your wallet has to scan the blockchain to find their incoming enotes. That can take a bit of time depending on when one does their last sync. Because of sync, a restore can take longer, and newfags forget their restore height when restoring a wallet, missing where their coin is on the blockchain. Oldfags will churn their wallet every so often, thus getting their balance closer to the present. I like to churn quarterly so I never have to restore from more than 3 months of blockchain. All this shit goes away with the upcoming Seraphis / Jamtis hard fork.
Normies will love it then. DAN knows the score.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 00:45:45 2023 No.54276513 >>54263283 Maybe I'm a schizo but I unironically think when one of these big AI projects has a big break-through, the thing that they created in a lab will be venerated as a God.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 01:01:12 2023 No.54276728
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>>54265965
I don't even recognize most of the other chans. Only seen BTC chan from Monero Chan's "atomic swap" with her. Z-Cash chan is looking a little too feminine, I guess this is before anybody knew. LOL.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 01:04:09 2023 No.54276772

>>54275964
>>54276321
Thanks anons I appreciate the info. Any youtube channels of books on Monero?
>>54275619
I’m an Options Trader, I would like to know what you guys think of Options trading and what your insights are on stocks (like any redpills to be aware of on it)

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 01:08:43 2023 No.54276844 >>54276772 Mastering monero and the DN Bible

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 01:12:04 2023 No.54276897 >>54272218 based, the same logic was true in 2011 for BTC

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 01:18:03 2023 No.54276998 >>54275472 >nor is traceable nothing is perfect. Monero has weaknesses on the privacy front just like every privacy tool that you can use. But it is by far the best cryptocurrency adhering to what Satoshi wanted.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 01:22:17 2023 No.54277041 File: 317 KB, 1152x2048, 1664769852928658.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54276998 >nothing is perfect tell that to my wife

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 01:24:00 2023 No.54277062 >>54277041 Kek

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 01:29:18 2023 No.54277127
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>>54276998
I just came across a video stating that Fluffypony, the founder of Monero being an informant for Enterpool. Can you redpill me on that? Also what do you guys personally think of Options Trading/ Stocks?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 01:31:52 2023 No.54277167 File: 383 KB, 1198x1176, FfW9dj1XgAIPa3E.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54277127 >I just came across a video stating that Fluffypony, the founder of Monero being an informant for Enterpool. Can you redpill me on that? Scroll up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 01:37:06 2023 No.54277234 >>54277127 See >>54277167 Weve had enough baseless nonsence and gpt-4 feverdreams for one day. As for options trading, i would ask that question in the SMG thread

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 01:43:27 2023 No.54277320 I got no bites on Monero market. If anyone is willing to shell $5 XMR (I’d like $10 but it’s ok) for a sexy vocaroo, let me know.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 01:51:11 2023 No.54277399 >>54254166 ahh this clears it up >>54274462 no wonder the IRS is saying that they’ll pay for Monero to be cracked. They are pissing and shitting their pants rn

Anonyɱous Thu Mar 23 01:53:05 2023 No.54277427
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>>54276772
>I would like to know what you guys think of Options trading
Not big on it, though I do come from a perspective of ignorance.
Nothing against stonks, though I really dislike capital gains. Seems like the government tries to make hazards, then profit off of them.

Anonyɱous Thu Mar 23 01:58:52 2023 No.54277505
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>>54277127
fluffy lost his devcreds when he was popped by the us marshals. he is but a cheerleader now.
Mental Outlaw addressed this in a fresh video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la8LD_cTNcA

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 02:05:03 2023 No.54277585 >>54277505 Is mental outlaw using a deep fake ai as a face?

>>	Anonyɱous Thu Mar 23 02:08:31 2023 No.54277630 File: 410 KB, 800x918, xmr monegro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54277585 He is part monegro

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 02:14:19 2023 No.54277703

>>54248437
Can any of you monerbros help me on setting up a private remote node? Thinking of setting one up on a pine64 or raspberry, something low power for continious uptime. though i understand the latter is no good as they dont offer hardware aes. Anyone have any advice from experience or reading to reccomend?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 03:44:00 2023 No.54278836 >>54248766 Now https

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 04:35:44 2023 No.54279320 File: 120 KB, 261x469, Screenshot from 2023-03-15 19-00-01.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54277630 holy shit im kekkin ova here

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 09:10:24 2023 No.54281453 When are we getting rich lads?

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 09:38:00 2023 No.54281657
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>>54277703
Hey, checkout pinode.co.uk website. They have a software for automatically setting up your own remote node on a raspberry pi or other single board computers.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 09:38:06 2023 No.54281658

>>54276464
i don't think you are getting it right. the height is only used when you synchronize your wallet for the first time, after that your wallet has to get every tx that happened since the last time your connected. so if the last time you synchronized your wallet was yesterday and you want to used today then your wallet is going to have to scan every transaction made from yesterday to today to check your wallet balance. while this might not take a lot of time (10-20 secs), we are living in the era of 'everything has to be instantaneous or i lose my shit', so if somehow we could save those precious seconds for the normies they will be more comfortable using the coin, also fast sync is useful when using your wallet in real life p2p business that could have a lot of ppl waiting in line... you don't want to make them wait longer because 'muh privacy' don't you?

>>54276728
they are all scam, check this out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMfikF6sXnQ
I'm not saying they are not gonna moon, because some of them have and will.
the market is highly irrational just like people.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 09:53:18 2023 No.54281782 >>54281453 Next Thursday.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 10:22:07 2023 No.54281999 >>54276728 Sorry my previous message >>54281658 was in response to >>54276513

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 10:26:41 2023 No.54282026 >>54281657 404'd, ill have to have a search around for more on pinode though, thanks

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 10:31:08 2023 No.54282060 >>54282026 >404'd I am able to reach the page. Might be a bit slow. Try the full URL: https://pinode.co.uk

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 11:42:26 2023 No.54282644 >>54263219 lmao what a guy

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 12:36:52 2023 No.54283159 File: 115 KB, 653x484, ekjghegtdh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] New Bitcoin/Monero only wallet

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 12:55:29 2023 No.54283413 File: 195 KB, 642x587, Maestro.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Maestro is fudding against Monero. I am impressed. Monerochans tits will more phatter after my salary this month.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 13:37:45 2023 No.54284222 isn't this shit compromised now? didn't some major contributor get booked for being a based cunt?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 13:43:27 2023 No.54284330 >>54284222 Yes dude the math was wrong all along. All the security audits were rigged, nobody noticed secret backdoor until some faggot article about fluffy. Go buy dog memes.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 13:44:13 2023 No.54284350
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>>54284222
>isn't this shit compromised now? didn't some major contributor get booked for being a based cunt?

Yes. Now fuck off and go play with the latest Inu coin.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 14:01:12 2023 No.54284709 >>54282060 Interesting, ive got to make a list of hardware i need first, thinking the rockpro 64, case and PSU. I like the idea of the open souce self install based on ubuntu server. Ill have to read more into it when i get out of the wage cage

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 14:17:50 2023 No.54284993 >>54283159 Nice sure but what's the purpose

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 15:09:17 2023 No.54285973 File: 65 KB, 720x771, 1677476079965315.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Testing

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 15:10:56 2023 No.54286010

>>54285973
Good so I CAN post now. My question that kept being marked as spam: has monero's adoption already peaked? What demographics are there left to adopt it that it doesn't already dominate? Keep in mind, most people use bank cards for everything.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 15:28:12 2023 No.54286319
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>>54286010
>has monero's adoption already peaked?

lol is this bait?

>What demographics are there left to adopt it that it doesn't already dominate?

The global shadow economy is valued in the TRILLIONS of USD.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 15:50:58 2023 No.54286762
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The fact that every transaction has to be stored indefinitely as part of the "blockchain" really bothers me and I believe it will keep crypto from being adopted. The appeal of crypto is it's decentralization to a large degree. When the blockchain grows due to more people using a network, the miners and nodes that support the network evolve from individuals running nodes to big companies and government players running nodes. This kills centralization and it also bothers my brain.

Luckily I have found a solution via the following algorithm :

>1. Be cryptocurrency
>2. Add every transaction onto blockchain
>3. After blockchain reaches a certain size. Generate a smaller "hash" that represents all blockchain transactions up to this point.
>4. ???
>5. Every node agrees this new smaller hash represents the old big ass blockchain.
>6. Now the blockchain is smaller and made up of a valid hash that represents a big ass blockchain and new transactions can be added onto the new smaller cool blockchain

I don't mind if my algorithm is used to save monero. I won't copy write it

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 15:51:55 2023 No.54286775 >>54286319 But the online parts of that are already using monero, so where's the growth potential?

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 16:05:52 2023 No.54287001
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>>54286775
>But the online parts of that are already using monero, so where's the growth potential?

lol wait, you think we've reached peak shadow economy adoption already?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 16:08:18 2023 No.54287041 File: 64 KB, 1920x1080, monerochanOoOoOoOo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] monerochads what is she saying?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 16:08:21 2023 No.54287043 File: 34 KB, 460x276, ryan gosling.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] sup

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 16:08:55 2023 No.54287051 >>54286775 cash is going away and being replaced by CBDC tracker tokens. so XMR will be needed for "offline" transactions as well, and any type of settlement procedures between entities whose activities are not welcome in the fedcoin ecosystem.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 16:25:17 2023 No.54287387

>>54287001
Online at least yeah. If you have some stats to the contrary I'd love to see them.

>>54287051
Wouldn't it be far more convenient for them to trade in goods in that case? Similar to cigarettes in prison but something higher value like iphones. A street dealer isn't going to be able to teach their clientele how to buy monero. There's too many hoops to jump through to buy it for it to be worth using in offline trade.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 16:40:57 2023 No.54287711 >>54287387 you're asking me if bartering would be more convenient than using a currency just to be clear

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 16:41:10 2023 No.54287714

>>54287387
>A street dealer isn't going to be able to teach their clientele how to buy monero. There's too many hoops to jump through to buy it for it to be worth using in offline trade.
This is both a UX and an education issue. First of all, if everyone starts using Monero, everyone will know how to use Monero. Much like how everyone knows how to use e.g. Windows, or how to use a smartphone.

Secondly, while there's still hassle involved, UX is always improving and can always improve further. It's only a matter of effort to get things smoother and more normie-friendly.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 16:56:32 2023 No.54288014

>>54287711
Not bartering vs currency. A legal and easy to convert currency such as iphones vs a potentially outlawed currency that is difficult to convert.

>>54287714
The comparison to windows is interesting, but bigger part of the difficulty than the UX is having to go through other cryptos and multiple platforms to get from CBDC to monero, and potentially getting accounts banned when they track you sending bitcoin to a non-kyc exchange.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 16:56:33 2023 No.54288015
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>>54287387
>Online at least yeah. If you have some stats to the contrary I'd love to see them.

Read the news, organized crime and related sectors have only just begun moving into crypto, specifically a Monero-only standard. The darknet itself still isn't 100% Monero-only yet, that won't happen for another couple of years.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 17:15:27 2023 No.54288381

>>54287714
But the street dealer may want to import drugs via the dark net because bulk purchases are often a way to get more money from their clientele, and therefore will adopt Monero. Then, seeing as how Monero is so useful for purchasing in bulk, over time will offer their street prices in XMR at a discount to get more XMR to buy more drugs.
This is a long term situation. Monero will continue to do what it does and overtime it will attract more interest.
Right now nobody uses cryptocurrency, so saying Monero won't be adopted is besides the point. Adoption rates are so low outside of the bubble of people who like to shill crypto because fiat is way easier. And it may very well be that crypto never does see widespread adoption.
But regardless, Monero will continue to exist and we will be here improving it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 17:31:26 2023 No.54288697 >>54254359 I've read around half of it. It's really good, even for beginners. It's all math, so no coding involved. But afaik doesn't cover bulletproofs, so you'll have to follow the references it gives.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 17:37:46 2023 No.54288826 >>54288014 iphones are not a currency. what you are describing is called barter. the legality of the currency wouldn't be an issue for someone whose business dealings are already illegal or clandestine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 17:38:28 2023 No.54288842 Should I swap my 50 eth for Monero on April 12th

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 17:38:39 2023 No.54288844 Redpill me on mining monero. I don’t hold any but recent developments in the finance world has made me interested in the technology

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 17:39:00 2023 No.54288855 >>54288842 what is april 12

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 17:41:30 2023 No.54288912
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>>54288014
>trading for iphones
So what, some person wants to makr a purchase thats worth say 5k in fiat says ill trade you 10 iphones for it and the recieving end is supposed to what? Fence all of these items youve pawned off on marketplace? maybe at a good price maybe not? Thats a ridiculous idea, far more complicated and traceable than any cryptocurrency.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 17:46:23 2023 No.54288998 >>54288855 When staked eth unlocks

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 18:17:07 2023 No.54289588 >>54286762 so smart duuude, you know what i'm already working on it. thanks for the extremely detailed specs your math is very elegant, especially your new way to generate the key image page 132

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 18:24:59 2023 No.54289746

>>54286762
>After blockchain reaches a certain size. Generate a smaller "hash" that represents all blockchain transactions up to this point
Unfortunately you need to remember and be able to prove the legitimacy of pre-prune txo's. Best solution I can think of:
1. Announce pruning in advance, so people can migrate their txo's ahead of time without leaking too much info. This is a simple as sending your monero to yourself after the cut-off date.
2. Have an archive of the old blockchain available somewhere.
3. The hash is the root of a merkle tree of all txo's up to the cutoff.
4. To spend an old txo, include its merkle path in the transaction.

Mina protocol has some black-magick way of making the blockchain constant-size with zk-snarks, but I don't understand how they do it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 18:27:26 2023 No.54289797 >>54286762 even the bloated piece of shit BTC blockchain is only about 500gb. a 1 tb hdd costs 30 dollars, so no i don't think your node is gonna get squeezed out just yet

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 19:36:04 2023 No.54291148
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LebAnon still alive?
Seeing more and more unrest there, some crazy videos and headlines these last couple days. I wonder how it is for XMR holders compared to lira holders now. Stay safe fren

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 19:37:41 2023 No.54291170 >>54291148 saw him post like a week or two ago as far as I know he's doing okay.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 19:52:10 2023 No.54291459 File: 60 KB, 960x953, one_track_mind.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mina protocol solves the issue If there is a solution to the blockchain size problem why isn't monero implementing this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 20:05:43 2023 No.54291706 File: 88 KB, 483x604, kg35OKvKOQM.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54291459 There are no solutions, there are only trade-offs.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 20:15:28 2023 No.54291897
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>>54286775
Most criminals aren't smart. CashApp and other centralized/controlled payment systems currently dominate the black market (for example, https://hindenburgresearch.com/block/ which just came out today). The DN is only a part of the black market. The end goal is to have "proxy merchants" (e.g. monero dealers that are as ubiquitous as weed dealers)

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 20:18:37 2023 No.54291957 >>54275472 The catch is that XMR wont move like it is on a moon mission.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 20:19:35 2023 No.54291974 >>54291897 See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pj8ws005N4 on "proxy merchants"

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 20:39:04 2023 No.54292304 >>54276772 >think of Options trading Risky >what your insights are on stocks Good for investing long term, assuming everything doesn't go under.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 20:43:02 2023 No.54292347
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>>54291897
>monero dealers that are as ubiquitous as weed dealers

Street dealers may well end up becoming XMR paper wallet sellers to offset the growing number of clients lost to DNMs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 20:44:48 2023 No.54292368 >>54291706 What are the tradeoffs in this case

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 20:55:41 2023 No.54292550 >>54276772 >Thanks anons I appreciate the info. Any youtube channels of books on Monero? Zero to Monero Second Edition. Explains the cool maths. https://web.getmonero.org/library/Zero-to-Monero-2-0-0.pdf

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 21:01:44 2023 No.54292638 >>54292368 >>54291706 >>54291459 >If there is a solution to the blockchain size problem why isn't monero implementing this? >What are the tradeoffs in this case Spooky crypto nobody understands yet, takes away dev time from fixing anonymity.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 21:03:47 2023 No.54292672

Could we use any of this 3 math breakthroughts to solve the blockchain size problem

https://youtu.be/Nmgl78a02ys

Like lets just imagine the blockchain is a big curve, couldn't we use any of this 3 algorithms to solve this problem like technically with this this algorithm and lets say the blockchain is size infinity then we could find a specific point of the curve with this algoritm. Sorry if my idea sucks or i am not inteligent enough for the blocksize problem but i am sure there must be a way or maybe ideally we just make cheaper memory cards.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 21:05:34 2023 No.54292697 >>54248437 Is Metamask still stealing our IP? I haven't followed crypto for 5 months. Should I just jump into monero?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 21:10:56 2023 No.54292781 >>54292697 Yes. I don't even know if there is a viable alternative either besides running a full ETH node (hahahahhahaha no) so it's pretty pathetic. ETH is cucked as shit.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 21:14:23 2023 No.54292827
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The monero community is full of liars, paid propagandists, idiots, and manipulative criminals like spagni. In Monero you can't ask questions that aren't "officially accepted" or outside of "skepticism Sunday" (what a retarded concept). The monero community is just full of loud and obnoxious idiots that never shut up, knowing that if you repeat lies long enough people will start to believe you. I'm glad that even on twitter, they're finally calling monero out for being the stupid shitcoin that it always has been.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 21:16:08 2023 No.54292852 >>54292781 What about other wallet like trustwallet?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 21:17:31 2023 No.54292872 >>54270205 Not a scam. Once they do it I will post the receipt. What's stopping me is the principle.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 21:29:38 2023 No.54293021 >>54292827 Is this the latest Twitter opinion?

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 21:30:13 2023 No.54293027
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>>54274462
Imagine bragging about being a degenerate drug addict/drug dealer and doing it on a notoriously monitored site like 4chin.
> bu-but I use monero
> bu-but muh privacy
Fucking retard lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 21:43:01 2023 No.54293168 >>54293027 All my posts are serious and I'm a threat to society.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 21:53:18 2023 No.54293304 >>54288844 Pretty easy to do, not very profitable currently. I just run the GUI miner on my gaming pc when either 1) XMR price makes it worth it or 2) Im not paying the power bill. If you want to support the network by all means go for it though.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 22:18:47 2023 No.54293656

>>54292672
there is no "blockchain size problem". it's a tradeoff between the number and size of transactions, and the storage space of people choosing to store the blockchain for free.

>>54292368
tradeoffs is you can have a large blocksize, but then it will take up a lot of space on your computer, and it will take a lot of bandwidth to synchronize, so there will be fewer nodes on the network. Or you can have a small blocksize but then it will be able to make few transactions per second.

There are also various other tradeoffs, most of them involve not wasting block size on stupid crap like NFTs. Monero uses bulletproofs, for example, which give a decent tx size vs privacy tradeoff. Monero also doesn't use any sort of scripting or whatever unlike bitcoin or eth.

I don't know why you are kvetching about the blocksize so much. You don't need to store the entire blockchain to verify transactions or mine. Pruned monero blockchain is like 50GB compared to bitcoin's blockchain which is like 400GB

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 22:20:29 2023 No.54293694 >>54288844 it's not very profitable but you can do it on any CPU made in the last 5 years

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 22:22:38 2023 No.54293721 >>54288844 Oh, and use p2pool to get regular payouts. I have a decently new laptop and I earn like 5 cents a day off of some cheap electricity. If monero ever does a 1000x it might be worth something. it's cool tech

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 22:29:16 2023 No.54293814 >>54292827 Then destroy the shitcoin fucking faggot prove monero is a shitcoin fucking znigger fucking faggot prove it stupid fucking pegged nigger prove monero is a shitcoin fucking faggot you can't because you are a fucking retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 22:31:16 2023 No.54293839 >>54293814 looks like >>54292827 touched a nerve

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 22:34:04 2023 No.54293882 >>54293839 Then let the retard prove it literally he can't

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 22:46:08 2023 No.54294050

Let me invoque all the zniggers give me proof monero is not perfect, does monero have a CEO? NO, because we arent fucking zniggers, did monero have 2 inflations bugs discovered? No, because we arent Zniggers, Does monero want to be a compliant good boi that gets pegged every day by Darpa and the jews? NO,because monero is different from zniggers. At least dogecoin doesn't take itself seriously and i would argue the tokenomics of that shitcoin will outlast bitcoin, fuck you stupid zniggers fuck you

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 22:50:54 2023 No.54294129
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>>54293814
>>54293882
>>54294050

There's no way you're going to be able to convince me (or beat me). I spent 5 years fighting Monero lies and monero liars, and never lost a single fight. My most fearsome enemy, a user named flenst whom I spent 2.5 years trashing in defeat after defeat of his, ended up deleting his entire account when I proved him wrong/lying for the 300th or so time. There's no way you could possibly gaslight me about this experience so you should just stop.

Skepticism sunday is retarded because you're supposed to b skeptical EVERY DAY. Doing it on just one day makes you an idiot, and a community promoting such a concept a community of idiots. You can pretend I'm not 'bringing up any legitimate points' because you're part of that community of gaslighting liars, but the fact is YOU'RE BURNED ASSHOLE.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 22:56:10 2023 No.54294220 >>54294129 Ok tell me whats wrong with the coin you are saying shit without substance tell me whats wrong with the coin

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:00:35 2023 No.54294304
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>>54292827
>The monero community is full of liars, paid propagandists, idiots, and manipulative criminals like spagni
Compared to what other crypto group? xmr is the most welcoming of criticism.
>In Monero you can't ask questions that aren't "officially accepted"
where? Even the leddit forum is pretty open by leddit standards.
The dev IRC workgroup holds public meetings, there are multiple forums including this one and monero.house...
>or outside of "skepticism Sunday" (what a retarded concept).
Skepticism sunday is just some reddit event where users are encouraged to be skeptical. As opposed to r/bitcoin or something where you will be immediately banned for ever questioning bitcoin even a little bit. See the r/btc and bitcoin cash censorship back in 2017.
>I'm glad that even on twitter, they're finally calling monero out for being the stupid shitcoin
The latest twitter drama is a total nothing burger. Let's review:
- Fluffypony, a non-active dev is bused by feds (doesn't matter even if he was active, it's an open source project where all changes made are public and audited)
- an RPC project (mymonero rpc) for an old wallet literally no one uses (mymonero) has access to the wallet (that's what RPC is for)
- An old research paper suggests that output spamming almost worked back when ring-size was 50% smaller (at the cost of enriching non-active monero users by destroying xmr through fees), assuming the victim doesn't churn ever. These people should check out the "breaking monero" series on youtube!

Phew... this is almost as bad as a couple months ago when a mysterious hacker revealed that monero had... wait for it... bootstrap servers!

I wonder what group of people are so eager to throw mud on xmr? pic related ... It's afraid.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:01:36 2023 No.54294323
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>>54294220

Monero's privacy doesn't work and is broken. It has been since it was released and was only partially 'fixed' in 2018. Monero transactions went from 100% traceable (because 0 mixin transactions deanoned other transactions), then to 90% traceable, then 45% when the ring signature members were increased to 7 and roughly 10% at 16 ring members.

The lead developer at the time for monero, fluffypony is on record stating that it wasn't a problem that they could solve by "just pecking away at it" (i.e. constantly increasing the ring size wouldn't eliminate the problem).

Also, there's something called the OSPEAD attack that was released late last year that still hasn't been fixed. The researcher that came up with that statistical attack said that monero's privacy needed to be reworked to prevent the attack. Also, the IRS PAID OUT a bounty of $1.2 million USD to two firms to develop tracking tools for monero. That was 2 years ago.

Bottom-line: Monero DOES NOT WORK while Zcash DOES and is OBJECTIVELY the superior crypto, NOBODY can refute this without resorting to literary sleight-of-hand.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:03:32 2023 No.54294359 >>54294304 The zcash retard is all spectacle and no substance i enjoy calling them zniggers but its so funny how they literally have nothing of material against monero and the best next thing they have is a nothingburger

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:04:13 2023 No.54294370 >>54294129 Oh nevermind, it's the zcash boys back at it again to set the record straight o7 / \| / \

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:04:31 2023 No.54294377 File: 691 KB, 720x404, 1617285023344.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54294323 Cool. Now go convince the free market that everything you've said is true.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:05:22 2023 No.54294391 >>54294323 You're absolutely right. I think I might fork zcash this afternoon. Anyone up for a ceremony?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:08:52 2023 No.54294448 >monero chads pretending being zbaggies spreading fud so they can buy lower I respect the grind >>54294323 Visit the darknet markets and see what's accepted as payment

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:11:26 2023 No.54294491
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>>54294304
>>54294359
>>54294370
>>54294377
>>54294448

Pure unadulterated cope.

The monero community often engages in Astro turfing, gaslighting, and other disingenuous tactics in order to manipulate the cryptocurrency narrative. This often means that they post epics and make up wild conspiracy theories both to hide their manipulative behavior as well as providing them with a deflection shield.

I mean if one of the founders of a competitor coin was arrested for committing fraud before the founding of the coin, you'd never hear the end of it with them screaming from the hill tops how that many the coin was a scam from the beginning. But since it happened to them with fluffy pony being arrested for stealing 100k from a former employer, they are dead silent and pretend like it didn't even happen it is unrelated.

The same thing they do with the Monero cripple mine, decline in their ecosystem, faking of their daily transactions to seem more used than they are for years etc.

Monero is much worse than block steam in their anti crypto ambitions and attempts to stop cryptocurrency from growing and succeeding.

This shitcoin is already dead, you retards just havent realized it yet.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:14:52 2023 No.54294544

>>54294491
I like that meme because Isildur gets corrupted, controlled and constantly spied on by Sauron because he chooses to comply with Sauron's will and hold the ring. Fits perfectly with ziontrash users getting surveilled by and complying with evil by choosing ZEC.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:17:16 2023 No.54294577 I just started mining for the first time with Monero Ocean. Actually I have never held XMR, but did alright with LINK, BTC, and Algorand. Anyways I hope this gets me rich

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:18:42 2023 No.54294600 File: 1.85 MB, 500x395, 1656113833815.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54294577 >Anyways I hope this gets me rich It won't.

Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:19:33 2023 No.54294622

>>54294491
>The monero community often engages in Astro turfing, gaslighting, and other disingenuous tactics in order to manipulate the cryptocurrency narrative.
Based monerochads pulling the strings

>I mean if one of the founders of a competitor coin was arrested for committing fraud before the founding of the coin, you'd never hear the end of it with them screaming from the hill tops how that many the coin was a scam from the beginning.
I will rape zooko on January 3, 2025 if the zcash price is greater than 1 xmr:zec

>But since it happened to them with fluffy pony being arrested for stealing 100k from a former employer
Based fluffychad, get that bag

>The same thing they do with the Monero cripple mine
I have a basement full of crippled retards on amphetamines that I use to mine monero. They do all the arithmetic on pen and paper.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:20:41 2023 No.54294642 >>54294577 Are you on the algo-switching miner? That's one of the main reasons people use monero ocean.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 23 23:32:59 2023 No.54294852 File: 502 KB, 1887x786, moneromarket.io.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] whoaaa moneromarket.io is bussing now, I remember when it had like 2-4 pages max just a few months ago

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 00:08:34 2023 No.54295378 >>54277320 >I got no bites on Monero market. If anyone is willing to shell $5 XMR (I’d like $10 but it’s ok) for a sexy vocaroo, let me know. Went to sleep but this offer is still available if anyone wants it

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 00:26:20 2023 No.54295628 >>54294852 how many items traded a day?

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 01:27:16 2023 No.54296375

>>54294304
>Bitcoin Cash censorship in 2017
I remember that shit. Unfortunately, I was a BTC maxi at the time and chose to sell the coins I had from the hard fork in exchange for BTC that I gave to a friend. I don't regret sharing the profit, I only regret not giving him my coins on the fork instead of selling them

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 01:30:04 2023 No.54296400 File: 27 KB, 307x307, 1678603272545871.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54294544 Checked

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 01:45:46 2023 No.54296623
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checked

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 01:49:03 2023 No.54296663 >>54296623 checked when will we ever get to see the monero of distributed networking? i2p and tor fall so terribly short, and crypto nets like lokinet should be discarded from the get-go

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 02:30:05 2023 No.54297169 >>54253550 Who cares about what that fat, greasy Arab has to say?

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 02:45:32 2023 No.54297330

>>54294323
Sure monero is an evolving piece of art, it wasn't born perfect but its better than whatever the fucking retarded zcash company has to offer. Ring signature solved that issue and the wallets were anonimous the only public thing was the ammounts, also its funny how you say you use stadistical attacks to discover who is a monero owner when literally 94% of all the retarded zniggers use public transactions, also there hasn't been a single case of someone being discovered thanks to monero, sure a goverment could have done a stadistical attack on monero back before ringCT was implemented but no one did it, also once the 16 ring signatures go to 128 it will basically impossible to use stadistical analisis, also talking about pozzed coinds with backdoors you should read more about your fucking shitcoin.

https://z.cash/compliance/

>Zcash was designed to facilitate compliance with the FATF “Travel Rule”, with an encrypted memo field that allows required originator and beneficiary information to be attached to virtual asset transfers between VASPs

>A large percentage of Zcash trading occurs in the United States, on exchanges that are registered with FinCEN as money service businesses (MSBs), including Coinbase, Gemini and Kraken. In May 2018, the New York Department of Financial Services (NYDFS) issued a press release explaining their decision to grant Gemini permission to provide custodial and listing services for Zcash. Of note, the NYDFS stated that, “Virtual currency license applicants are subject to a rigorous review of anti-money laundering, capitalization, consumer protection and cyber security standards

Lol they even fucking admit most retards investing into this are fat boomers too stupid to use non custodial wallets

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 03:07:59 2023 No.54297565 File: 149 KB, 729x465, e9c680d0fd6abda3f8e4ad23fc27ba59.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54292827 >>54294129 Surprise surprise it's a fucking ztard.

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 03:09:15 2023 No.54297579

>>54294491
>decline in their ecosystem

Transactions are rising every day while no one uses your shitcoin

>But since it happened to them with fluffy pony being arrested for stealing 100k from a former employer, they are dead silent and pretend like it didn't even happen it is unrelated.

It doesn't matter he lost his lead mantainer role 2 years before he was arrested and he can't do shit about the code other than pointing out that its open source,

>faking of their daily transactions to seem more used than they are for years

I don't know but the fact there arent retarded moonboys trying to hike the price like other shitcoins like shiba makes this based if that was the case, the reality is the number transactions and the price relationship between them look pretty stable to me, also the history of zcash is so fucking sad being premined with a maxinum all time high at the very beginning of 1197$ and now to a miserable 37$, basically after the CEO dumped on the early retards zcash got again to 517$ in 2018, kinda a little bit before monero became more perfect than it already was and boom it dropped again, monero sure peaked in 517 but it has been a lot more stable than similar competition, zniggers, the zcash company, you are all shit, also your life is probably as fucking shit as this shitcoin retarded shill.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 03:09:24 2023 No.54297580 >buy 200 fiats worth of Monero >it goes up bigly >buy 8000 fiats worth of Monero >it dumps bigly I buy monero anyway, but I wish it wasn't like this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 03:19:43 2023 No.54297688 >>54294642 I don't know what that is, I will look into it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 04:23:17 2023 No.54298286 File: 50 KB, 658x491, monero_bitcoin_3270days.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54298270 Bitcoin from $0 to $19k in 3270 days. Monero from $0 to $?? in 3270 days... ? April 1 2023 = 3270 days since Monero launched.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 04:57:51 2023 No.54298598 >>54298286 April fools! XMR goes to $0.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 05:41:36 2023 No.54298899 >>54294642 Is there a solid guide somewhere on how to set up the algo-switching miner on hiveos?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 07:06:38 2023 No.54299452 Fully convinced other coin holders suffer from some form of mental retardation

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 07:13:14 2023 No.54299484 >>54299452 True. I'm also convinced I'm not very smart myself for holding this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 07:19:37 2023 No.54299526 File: 104 KB, 1000x1000, 167936275954864252.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54299452 True. My worst investment.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 07:50:17 2023 No.54299738 >>54299452 To clarify by ‘other coin holders’ I meant non XMR

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 08:12:51 2023 No.54299866 anyone else trying to figure out mordinals?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 08:29:07 2023 No.54299975 File: 1.23 MB, 3732x1512, 1666853382758665.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54294852 Lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 08:36:01 2023 No.54300015 File: 78 KB, 267x238, Screenshot from 2023-03-02 15-05-38.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>54294544 >>54294577 >>54294600 >>54294622 You are now officially posting in a blessed digits thread. XMR is the one true path.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 08:41:51 2023 No.54300060 >>54298286 that's what killed btc as an actual currency. XMR is money, it's not a gambling token for gen Xers who watch CNBC

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 08:43:23 2023 No.54300074 >>54299866 death to mordinals

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 08:54:45 2023 No.54300155 >>54300074 mordinals is already scheduled to be patched out by limiting tx_extra to 1kb. in the meantime though, has anyone uploaded there own monero nfts?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 09:05:34 2023 No.54300230 >>54294544 Based

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 10:36:00 2023 No.54300956 >>54294304 >xmr is the most welcoming of criticism. ...only when it comes to tech criticism. Not when it comes to monerochan's tits! I am looking for a A-cup monerochan since bigbang and all I get is being called a faggot. Hippocrates! all of you!

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 10:53:35 2023 No.54301082

>>54300155
The thing is, can't they just store an IPFS hash or something? Bitcoin has tiny transactions size limits and still has some sort of NFTs. Ethereum has NFTs even when gas was expensive as fuck, and it didn't cost tens of thousands of dollars to mint them as far as I'm aware.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 13:07:22 2023 No.54302568 There is a thread on I2P network on.. /pol/? >>/pol/thread/420858126 Rumor has it that i2pd devs (russian, btw) are discussing splitting the i2p network away from the java client. I2P bros.. I am not feeling good.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 13:08:24 2023 No.54302579 >>54302568 >>>/pol/420858126

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 13:27:51 2023 No.54302866 damn it feels good to be a gangster

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 13:52:37 2023 No.54303235 File: 838 KB, 994x703, monero vs shitcoins.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 14:30:01 2023 No.54303777
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>>54302568
>Rumor has it that i2pd devs (russian, btw) are discussing splitting the i2p network away from the java client.

Doubt it, the Java guys have been cooperating with the I2Pd guys for years now. Beware of glowie psyops, they're hoping to neutralize I2P next now that Tor has been DDoS'd to hell.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 14:33:31 2023 No.54303822 >>54248437 When tf is Tari coming out

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 14:34:04 2023 No.54303827

>>54303777
>they're hoping to neutralize I2P next now that Tor has been DDoS'd to hell.
checked and trips of truth.

Tor is already in the pocket of the glowies. I2P is what Tor was hoping to be. We shouldn't let I2P become fragmented and backdoor'ed.

Make sure to participate in the I2P forums, http://i2pforum.i2p

Make sure to run a I2P router (java, or i2pd, doesn't matter) in your single board computer, laptop, desktop. Let it run in the background. It doesn't use much data, nor CPU. It just passes encrypted internet packets from one I2P node to the next. Feed the network. Help it help you.

Run your torrents over I2P network. Glowies will never know that you downloaded the latest netflix goyslop without paying for it. Let them seethe.

Fuck kikes.
Fuck nigger.
Fuck spics.
Fuck chinks.
Most importantly,
Fuck jannies.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 14:38:36 2023 No.54303893 >>54248437 Good morning, BIGOTS! I hope you enjoy your little pump as it will be the only pump you get after the Zqueens supass you and brings privacy and trans rights to all. Kill yourselves, Monerocucks. Zqueens rule!

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 15:06:13 2023 No.54304362 >>54303822 What is tari even suppose to be?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 15:11:45 2023 No.54304465 >>54304362 Smart-contract enabling sidechain for XMR.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 15:13:09 2023 No.54304488 >>54277320 >I got no bites on Monero market. If anyone is willing to shell $5 XMR (I’d like $10 but it’s ok) for a sexy vocaroo, let me know. Offer is still here if anyone wants one

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 15:16:52 2023 No.54304553 NEW THREAD: >>54304545 >NEW THREAD: >>54304545 NEW THREAD: >>54304545 >NEW THREAD: >>54304545 NEW THREAD: >>54304545 >NEW THREAD: >>54304545

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 24 15:41:07 2023 No.54304992 >>54304465 Token not needed

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 16:56:47 2023 No.54306309

>>54301082
ethereum has nfts via storing a link on the blockchain
bitcoin has true ordinals and the picture itself is stored on the blockchain
monero doesn't have real ordinals, it's a branding thing. monero's nfts store the picture on the blockchain via the tx_extra field.
arguably bitcoin and monero's nfts are annoying because they force the miners/nodes to store the entire picture, permanently on-chain. While its fun to have nfts on monero I am glad that it will be patched out. I hope the nfts that are minted before then will persist though. And hopefully monero's mergemined tari can let more people do better nfts

Anonymous Fri Mar 24 17:07:05 2023 No.54306457

>>54306309
>bitcoin has true ordinals and the picture itself is stored on the blockchain
Oh huh, how
Only way I can think of how you'd do that is broadcasting a shitton of transactions each with a fragment of the picture. Sounds extremely expensive to mint, though (and complex to book-keep, though that can be solved I guess)
>monero doesn't have real ordinals, it's a branding thing
What's a true ordinal?

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