/smg/ - STOCK MARKET GENERAL

[Anonymous No.54215488]

Kitten Edition

>Brokers
https://pastebin.com/F1yujtVq
https://brokerchooser.com/

>Risk management:
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp

>Live Streams:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://exhentai.org/tag/character:Mythra
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://www.thebalance.com/

>Options (do not trade these just because you read all these links)
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Free charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com/
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Pre-Market Data and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Dividend Reinvestment (DRIP) calculator:
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

>Links for BOIL Bhenchods
https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/
https://bad-dragon.com/shop

>Calendars
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/calendar.htm
https://www.investing.com/dividends-calendar/
https://www.forexfactory.com/calendar/
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html <-- 3 days FUUUUGGGGGGG

>Misc:
https://market24hclock.com/
https://tradingeconomics.com
https://finsight.com/bond-screener/corporate-bonds

>Previous>>54212942

[Anonymous No.54215501]

everything is fine

[Anonymous No.54215509]

>>54215488
Fuck stocks im going back to crypto people are making money in crypto again while stocks just fall and fall. How you guys do it I don't understand.

[Anonymous No.54215516]

New thread. New ID. No one will ever EVER know who I was in the previous thread.

[Anonymous No.54215522]

>>54215509
No one does. Now get back to gambling with the rest of us.

[Anonymous No.54215523]

>QE is back bro!
why are futs not gigapumping then? hello mumu?

[Anonymous No.54215525]

>>54215488
yes, but who the h*ck is kitten? Is that Janet Yellen pls respond?

[Anonymous No.54215528]

>>54215516
youre the same guy who said that last thread...

[Anonymous No.54215533]

Hoping BOIL will tank in the AM so I can do some DCA!

[Anonymous No.54215537]

>>54215525
its taylor

[Anonymous No.54215539]

>>54215523
because its not QE, bulls are retards

[Anonymous No.54215541]

>>54215516
I know who you are!

[Anonymous No.54215545]

>>54215523
QE only for da big players

you will have to suffer anon

[Anonymous No.54215552]

>>54215537
sweet lord baby jesus joseph and mary is that from the new tour?

[Anonymous No.54215554]

the anon below this is gay

[Anonymous No.54215567]

Dividends

[Anonymous No.54215571]

>>54215523
Technically they're just loans
They have to pay them back with interest rates as high as they are

[Anonymous No.54215596]

Give it to me straight, will I be heemed by EOY?

[Anonymous No.54215598]

>>54215552
yes

[Anonymous No.54215611]

I don't like this suicide bull market. I'm very uncomfortable.

[Anonymous No.54215620]

>>54215554
>>54215567
Kek

[Anonymous No.54215631]

mate just messaged me telling me to pull all my money out the bank because Japans stock market is crashing rn
Any truth?

[Anonymous No.54215635]

>>54215611
don't fight it, embrace the clown market

[Anonymous No.54215641]

Would PacWest be a good buy?

[Anonymous No.54215646]

>>54215631
Japan economy has been on the brink of collapse since like 2020 because they've got unserviceable debt and are overleveraged on US bonds. How's your US bank related to japan crashing though? Nobody invests in japan.

[Anonymous No.54215648]

>Futes

[Anonymous No.54215652]

What’s the play boys? I can’t take another year living with my dad. I need to get out so I can start my real life.

[Anonymous No.54215668]

>>54215652
be one of them fembois. Lots of papa bulls in this thread, take your pick

[Anonymous No.54215676]

>futures

[Anonymous No.54215693]

>company has been profitable last 4 quarters
>PE ratio shows negative
Someone explain this to me please

[Anonymous No.54215697]

>futes

[Anonymous No.54215701]

>a believe it is attempting to communicate via rhythmic dancing, step aside child i will attempt to make contact with the creature

[Anonymous No.54215703]

>>54215652
Go all in on beaten down high dividend stocks and get free money

[Anonymous No.54215712]

>>54215488
https://twitter.com/dharmatrade/status/1636584210894036993

[Anonymous No.54215711]

>tech lagging in the futes pump
>aussie and asian markets down
anyone trusting this rally? it seems a little sus

[Anonymous No.54215719]

>>54215701
>ayo gurl lemme holla at chu

[Anonymous No.54215722]

so, uh, impressive massive rescue guys, uh, so, um, where is the pump?

[Anonymous No.54215724]

>>54215676
Race traitor

[Anonymous No.54215725]

>>54215641
My guy. EWBC. Say it with me. EWBC. East West Bancorp. Don't buy garbage like FRC, PacWest, or USBancorp.

[Anonymous No.54215766]

FRC cash per share is higher than stock price. ($34 Billion)
That doesn't include the loans they're getting.
so the market is valuing all their bonds mortgages, etc at negative value.
lul
just buy and hold the market is acting as if the housing market has already collapsed, but only for FRC stock

They could close up shop and stock price would go up

[Anonymous No.54215771]

>>54215725
Usb?

[Anonymous No.54215772]

>>54215725
Sorry, but that's way above my budget, my friend.

[Anonymous No.54215784]

>>54215693
The shares have a negative price, duh.

[Anonymous No.54215802]

>>54215771
Universal Serial Bus

[Anonymous No.54215808]

>>54215722
Bitcoin is crashing
That alone makes me happy

[Anonymous No.54215833]

BOIL will 2x at open and i'll break even, right?

[Anonymous No.54215834]

>>54215772
that is one of those sad stories where the girl in pic related got a boob reduction with simp money isn't it?

[Anonymous No.54215841]

The Fed Funds Rate is officially above Core PCE, the Feds preferred method of inflation.

[Anonymous No.54215846]

so what happens to my CS puts

[Anonymous No.54215853]

>>54215841
the tightening cycle will be complete this week

[Anonymous No.54215857]

>>54215841
I'm just gonna short it

[Anonymous No.54215859]

>>54215846
They're worthless. Don't buy financial instruments that you don't understand. :^)

[Anonymous No.54215871]

>>54215834
No, she's some twitch thot. I don't know much about her though.

[Anonymous No.54215876]

I cannot begin to tell you how important it will be to buy uranium before summer. I want you to hit every bite you can find: UUUU, UEC, DNN, URNM if she's willing. And... no oil, it's uranium only, tomorrow. Obviously this is not going down the way that any of us would have hoped, but... the ground is shifting below our feet, and apparently, uranium is the way out.

[Anonymous No.54215878]

>>54215808
kys nigger

[Anonymous No.54215893]

>>54215722
There will be no pump... only 10+ years of stagnation and crabbing. They'll tell you it is totally not a depression. Despite it being a literal depression on the chart. They'll change the name "OH IT WASN'T A DEPRESSION IT WAS A RECESSION!" "IT WAS THE GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRISIS NOT THE GREAT RECESSION WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!" " STOCKS ARE ONLY DOWN 50% IT ISN'T A RECESSION THOUGH!"

[Anonymous No.54215897]

CS shitting the bed is the Euro equivalent of JPM going under. Was anyone competent in charge over there? Makes me rethink anything Eurofag related. This will hurt Swiss reputation too.

[Anonymous No.54215899]

>>54215846

I have CS puts. No idea what happens to them either. Hopefully their more valuable and we can sell them tomorrow. I guess we'll wait and see

[Anonymous No.54215907]

>>54215871
oh thank God. I hope her simps reign themselves in.

[Anonymous No.54215909]

>>54215897
At least you ain't speakin' German

[Anonymous No.54215912]

>>54215766
You are a fucking retarded bagholding nigger who doesn't know the first thing about bank accounting. Enjoying losing all your money, dip-buying retard retail bagholding nigger. Look up what a bank's liabilities are (customer deposits) and when their last report you are reading is from, and how these numbers may be effected by the yet-to-be reported bank run of billions

[Anonymous No.54215913]

>>54215522
Shits worth what people will pay for it what's so complicated about that?

[Anonymous No.54215919]

>>54215596
>Ha, there's an imminent recession. That means people will fly to the safety of bonds!
>And the Fed will *have* to do QE!
That kind of "sure bet" bullishness is reality's strongest possible sign that bond baggies are about to be heemed.

[Anonymous No.54215928]

>>54215676
whore coal burner

[Anonymous No.54215938]

>>54215893
I've heard some call it "the short recession". That's how you know it might be long.

[Anonymous No.54215943]

>>54215912
They're the gay bank of faggots that's something to buy shorts on.

[Anonymous No.54215944]

>>54215846
What's the news? If they are gonna get delisted that means you won't be able to cash out

[Anonymous No.54215956]

>>54215846
Retardbro...

[Anonymous No.54215967]

Anons please in your input is PacWest a good buy or will it hit zero?

[Anonymous No.54215977]

>>54215893
This is a correction, it doesn't count

[Anonymous No.54215987]

>>54215833
Just hold the bag until the Ukrainian Civil War ends

[Anonymous No.54216011]

>>54215893
>bobo thinks during a downtrend people buy the top and never the bottom

[Anonymous No.54216015]

>>54215967
No reason for it to hit $0. This whole thing will blow over, and bank dip slurpers will benefit the most.

[Anonymous No.54216020]

>>54215967
No reason for it to go up. Look at its liabilities. It's a straightline toward $0 with pacwest.

[Anonymous No.54216021]

>>54215912
People aren't going to withdraw now that they've seen the fed and 11 banks come to their rescue. Money is scared right now, when it blows over this week share price will skyrocket

[Anonymous No.54216027]

>>54215878
go bancrupt, crypto nigger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf7OZld47K4

[Anonymous No.54216033]

Required reading
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a3XnvRCcVo

[Anonymous No.54216043]

>>54215652
>I can’t take another year living with my dad.
>I need to get out so I can start my real life.
Maybe you should try getting a job. Protip though, this always was your real life and you wasted it ahahhhhahahaha. Nothing stopping you fucking bitches in your mothers basement while stacking cash like I did. If you need to move out you can't go wrong with a house, but enjoy your cuck rates with prices that haven't even corrected while I sit on my 2.5% faggot.

[Anonymous No.54216060]

>>54215919
Do you believe bonds will be heemed?

[Anonymous No.54216067]

>>54216027
>charlotte mongoloid
lol

[Anonymous No.54216070]

>>54215652
>just celebrated my dad's b day going out to eat
>went to the bathroom and secretly got the waiter to pay the check
>his smile as he went "you goober you didn't need to do that"
>I downloaded a car game on steam on his pc before we left
>got to watch it play it tonight
if your father is a dick and there's nothing you can do I'm sorry, but living at home with family is genuinely kino

[Anonymous No.54216093]

>>54215833
I'm prepared to take an extra helping at below 4, another below 3, and one last double scoop below 1, then hold till whenever is necessary. Averaging down. This is totally not financial advice, but it's what I intend as it stands, which could very well prove retarded.

[Anonymous No.54216102]

>>54215784
Is that scoops?

[Anonymous No.54216104]

So is hyperinflation back on the menu, boys?

[Anonymous No.54216124]

>>54216070
By Dad is a stubborn callous douchebag. Treated me like shit his whole life. 7 years ago he started his own business and makes 500k a year. Stopped drinking. Became less violent. Now he sends me a ton of money. Everytime I come home to visit my mom he asks if I need money and gives me 10k. Gives me 5k on Christmas and my birthday despite never giving me anything before he came into wealth. He thinks he can just buy my affection now. Fuck him. If he wants my affection and love he can apologize for the way he treated me my whole life.

[Anonymous No.54216126]

I can rest assured.

[Anonymous No.54216130]

>>54216104
insanely so yeah
basically we're going to have to very, very slowly hike rate over a timeframe of years
get ready for 1980s level inflation / rates. Hope you got reits in your roth

[Anonymous No.54216147]

>>54216070
I love living at home, but id rather have a place of my own that I could, very worst case scenario, rent out, or have him move into. My room is a cramped ass box and the current place is small

[Anonymous No.54216189]

>>54215893
>stagnation and crabbing
Crab doesnt mean markets will be dead, there will be volatility but just a lot of chop. Perfect enviornment to trade.

[Anonymous No.54216218]

>>54216124
You still take his money though.

[Anonymous No.54216219]

>>54216124
And if you sat down and gave him that opportunity, I'm sure he'd love the chance to talk to you about it. But just keep being a pick until he dies, then see how you feel about never giving him the chance.

[Anonymous No.54216233]

>>54216021
>People aren't going to withdraw now that they've seen the fed and 11 banks come to their rescue

I trust my government, and my president (who I voted for) when they tell me everything is going to be fine. I trust banks (despite them being competitors with each other), when they say they tell me they will cooperate with each other to save each other from demise, instead of buying each other for pennies on the dollar.

[Anonymous No.54216253]

>>54216130
>get ready for 1980s level inflation / rates
Holy fuck please give me those 15% yield 30 bonds

[Anonymous No.54216255]

>>54216020
>>54216015

So which is it then?

[Anonymous No.54216259]

>>54216218
Anons are known whores
Thats why we love goyslop girl

[Anonymous No.54216279]

>>54216130
Reits going to get slaughtered too since they cant take on debt to expand and if the rates go 6%. Their bond coupons will be 8-9% in addition to their divys you are looking at almost 20% cash flow evaporating off them. Rent increases wont be able to keep up

[Anonymous No.54216290]

Oooohhhh fuck, I guess that boomer that said "Mark my words, USA will have Weimar" was right after all, KEK

[Anonymous No.54216291]

it was nice knowing you stocksisters
>>54210935
>>54211398

[Anonymous No.54216292]

>>54215523
The printing is offsetting collapasing credit, so the net effect won't be stimulatory. More money isn't being introduced into the system, it's just adding back in some of what's lost. It's not a solid reason to be bullish until we're certain banks have solidified and the rates pivot.

[Anonymous No.54216312]

Weimar is a meme right

[Anonymous No.54216313]

>>54215833
>>54216093
I will specify, in case it helps you to determine your own strategy as an example to contemplate, that my DCA at <4 will be about 1/3 of my present holding, then another 1/3 at <3, then 2/3 at <1 (if it were to hit these levels). Doing so, btw, would not only greatly increase your gains if it moons, but also substantially lower the price needed to break even or just lose less. It could, of course, also result in much greater loss should BOIL never rise to say, $5-6 again.

[Anonymous No.54216329]

>>54216312
>25% of all dollars made in the last two years
sure anon sure

[Anonymous No.54216330]

>>54216312
yes. inflation will not hit +100% like in weimar or even 50% but it will be high. in uk inflation was(is?) over 10% and in a lot of the world right now.

[Anonymous No.54216351]

>>54216312
Whatever helps you sleep at night :)

[Anonymous No.54216364]

I bet the markets going to crash while I am on vacation this summer

[Anonymous No.54216365]

>>54216292
It is not going to be enough. There is going to be even more liquidity needed after this round. They can try though. People are already fleeing to crypto. I already closed all my bank accounts, and am depositing direct each paycheck into Interactive Brokers. This was a wakeup call for anyone above the FDIC insurance limit. Celebrities, CEOs, companies, are all scrambling to structure their money in a way that it cannot be lost. No one wants to risk "infinite FDIC insurance" being given to us next time.

[Anonymous No.54216371]

Hang Kang bros...

[Anonymous No.54216372]

>>54215766
FRC has (had?) 4B cash, 33B in investments, and 166B in loans. Suppose the investments have lost 20% since they acquired them (and suppose they are classified as "held to maturity") and suppose they'll lose 10% on the loans if they have to panic-sell them.
4 + 0.8 * 33 + 0.90 * 166 = 180
They have (had at end of year) 176B in deposits.
If every depositor runs that leaves only 4B. That's really cutting it close.

[Anonymous No.54216375]

>>54216060
Let me put it this way: Do you trust Joe Biden, or future presidents Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to repay you 100-cents-on-the-dollar, with real and valuable dollars, when our debt looks like this?

[Anonymous No.54216378]

>>54216365
I really hope that's true because if so, it means every bank in the world is going to collapse over the coming months as rich people's plans are being executed.

[Anonymous No.54216387]

>>54216371
>Chinkshit falls apart

[Anonymous No.54216392]

>>54216371
Kek

[Anonymous No.54216395]

>>54215893
Why aren't the 2000s called the lost decade?

[Anonymous No.54216405]

>futures

[Anonymous No.54216417]

My coworker thought he was buying a house soon lmao

[Anonymous No.54216427]

>>54216417
Ask him what kind of cardboard box he's been looking at.

[Anonymous No.54216431]

futures has retraced almost the full amount.

[Anonymous No.54216437]

>>54216375
Isn't that more of a reason for them to cut rates

[Anonymous No.54216453]

>>54216437
Yeah they're supposed to inflate away the debt but they're having a hard time cause inflation is out of control

[Anonymous No.54216460]

>>54216417
What market?

[Anonymous No.54216474]

>>54216375
If Japan recovered so can we

[Anonymous No.54216477]

>>54216460
St Louis

[Anonymous No.54216487]

>>54216437
If you're a Star Trek nerd, you might call it a Kobayashi Maru. If you're into chess, zugzwang. More plainly, they're fucked from both ends.

If they hold rates steady or raise them, you're right, they need economy strangling tax hikes to balance things. This causes a recession: emergency medicaid, unemployment, and stimulus spending paired with plunging tax receipts. That is, a large deficit with more bond issuance.

If they cut rates, your bond (hopefully) appreciates from a 4% valuation to a 2% one. While inflation knocks off 10% of the value every year. And even the dumbest of dumb bond traders realize they've given up on the 2% inflation target, which means treasuries are no longer risk-free, and they bail, dumping them on the market. That is, effectively, more bond issuance.

[Anonymous No.54216503]

>>54216474
The Nipponese save, are patient, patriotic, and, perhaps most importantly, run a current account surplus.

Burgers, well, we are very much the opposite.

[Anonymous No.54216507]

>>54216477
>200k median house price per redfin
God I would fucking love that. I live in Phoenix. Hoping we hit 350k by mid 2024

[Anonymous No.54216514]

>>54216503
The Japanese government is deeply indebted, though, right?

[Anonymous No.54216520]

>>54216474
>japan
>recovered
u wot m8

[Anonymous No.54216521]

>>54215676
Why don't they do chimp bestiality, they do horse and dog

[Anonymous No.54216528]

>>54216514
They've been printing since the 80's and are so deeply indebted they can't actually print anymore.

[Anonymous No.54216529]

>>54216365
>It is not going to be enough. There is going to be even more liquidity needed after this round.
honestly, while this recession sucks, it's frankly not an exceptionally difficult case at this current point. Offsetting collapsed deposit accounts and restructuring debts is common for recessions and at this point the situation is becoming more ordinary. Services, rent and energy need to come down, and we can all see that coming down the pipe. It's a kick in the nuts, but it's not like any of this is lethal to the banking system. It just feels like we're getting kicked in the nads.

[Anonymous No.54216531]

>>54216507
>you can pinpoint the exact point interest rates went to zero and QE exploded

[Anonymous No.54216533]

>>54215693
Someone answer or I'm gonna post this question every thread

[Anonymous No.54216539]

>>54216514
Yes, which is how they've been able to run up 300%+ debt to GDP while we're at 100%. But both of us are now creaking under the dual threats of inflation and fuckhueg interest payments.

Japs, even with their yields capped at 0.5% on the 10 year pay a quarter of their budget in interest. That's why they need (and for the aformentioned reasons might get) their CPI to drop from 4%. God help them if it stays there.

[Anonymous No.54216547]

futuresbros...................

[Anonymous No.54216562]

>>54216533
>>54215693
What company? What site are you looking it up on?

[Anonymous No.54216569]

Reminder: Bank failures are not bullish

[Anonymous No.54216579]

>>54216507
My house has barely gone down

[Anonymous No.54216582]

>>54216124
Sounds like the ball is in your court

[Anonymous No.54216595]

>>54216528
Wrong narrative. They can print as much as they like. The reason you buy bitcoin as a rich american is to avoid the inflation of money printing.

Lucky for the banks, someone is always holding the fiat when bitcoin is sold so it won't be a bank run but it will silently lose transaction speed, making the loans themselves hold no value. Even worse if interest is high to combat inflation, you are basically a business acting as a wagie for the fed.

[Anonymous No.54216600]

>>54216124
He is literally apologizing, retard. Some people are shy with emotions.

[Anonymous No.54216605]

>>54216453
Exactly right. If you run a 1940s playbook, have the Fed YCC at, say 2.5%, report inflation is 5%, and let it really run at 7-10%, you can get back to a manageable level over a decade or two without doing some Venezuelan default announcement.

However where we're fucked is that current deficit drivers are permanent and getting worse. So any ground we make via inflation is lost via Social Security COLA. The war ended in 1945, but Boomers will still be alive in 2028.

[Anonymous No.54216620]

>>54216595
You can't print as much as you want because you have to pay the interest. If you don't pay the interest, you default. If you default, everything implodes. It's not rocket science.

[Anonymous No.54216626]

>>54216529
OK ChatGPT. You will see. They just turned on central bank liquidity swaps. And that's just what they've told us so far... They can and will do anything to keep the system alive. We just haven't heard about some things yet.

[Anonymous No.54216632]

>>54216474
Jap market is driven almost entirely by divvies

[Anonymous No.54216639]

>>54215652
Just wait for the dump and then buy steel.

[Anonymous No.54216660]

>>54216562
>RH shows negative 200 PE ratio
>Google doesn't list PE as a number
>Google shows company has lost money for last 3 years
How the fuck is this the case that they have negative income yet report a positive EPS??

[Anonymous No.54216668]

>futures

so much for that epic pump...

[Anonymous No.54216687]

>>54216660
>>54216562
I'm double retarded and switched out the screen cap for the apu

[Anonymous No.54216718]

>>54216668
I think this is why:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/SWPT

They are turning SWPT back on, yet telling us "every thing is fine".

[Anonymous No.54216728]

>>54216605
Dying suddenly solves that

[Anonymous No.54216747]

>>54215537
Tay tay <3

[Anonymous No.54216751]

>>54216718
I'm not familiar with SWPT, what the hell is that and how bad is it?

[Anonymous No.54216756]

CS bond holders got heemed. They said there are no refunds

[Anonymous No.54216761]

>>54216660
>>54216687
>Robinhood
Well, I think I've found your problem. At least one bigger than a messed up P/E ratio calculation.

If you want to dive into a company's financials like this without going through actual 10-Q's and 10-K's via the SEC's EDGAR portal, Marketwatch offers good quarterly and annual summaries: https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/mrvl/financials?mod=mw_quote_tab

The lines you want to look at are "Net Income", about two thirds of the way down on the Income Statement. You can toggle between Annual and Quarterly options in the top right of the pane.

MRVL lost money over the past 4 quarters combined, giving them a negative EPS, and so doesn't really "have" a P/E ratio or they have a negative one (depends how you want to calculate it).

Make sense?

[Anonymous No.54216769]

>Futures starting to go red
I guess we are gonna pump tomorrow...

[Anonymous No.54216774]

>>54216718
That switch to daily dollar swaps was announced before >futures opened, I thought?

[Anonymous No.54216778]

>>54216668
Hmmm

[Anonymous No.54216789]

Oil bros... why do we keep losing...

[Anonymous No.54216803]

>>54216626
>OK ChatGPT. You will see.
You don't read about historical recession case studies, that's your own fault and it's why you choose to be poor.
>They just turned on central bank liquidity swaps.
That's because Euro central banks simply choose to not do effective monetary policy and they're willing to pay the USA to do it for them at a 4% interest rate. It's worrying in the sense that the Euro's central bankers are basically throwing in the towel and admitting the dollar is the only currency worth keeping in reserve, but it's not going to kill banks.

[Anonymous No.54216806]

>>54216789
There aren't many advanced protections. It's a very crude market.

[Anonymous No.54216815]

>>54216789
I am of the opinion that oil speculators are being paper hand faggots mostly.

[Anonymous No.54216826]

>>54216761
That’s a man

[Anonymous No.54216843]

>>54216789
because oil markets are smarter than equity markets, and understand that we are in and going into a worse recession

[Anonymous No.54216853]

You know what would be fun? If tbe US defaults because the treasury is caught up in the bank runs

[Mr. Cummies !!DU22SQMj6dQ No.54216855]

>>54216507
what’s the source on this?
redfin? zillow?

[Anonymous No.54216861]

>>54216372
They don’t have to sell any assets, they can just pledge them to the btfp at par value. Which means the bank probably has way more than 30b is cash depending on how much deposit outflow there’s actually been.

[Anonymous No.54216865]

>>54216826
Kenziepuff is a (verified (fertile)) woman (female).

Long healthcare stocks because she is singlehandedly bringing up the nation's TFR.

[Anonymous No.54216902]

>>54216853
As of last Wednesday Yellen only had literally $232b cash on hand. That's less than 2 Berkshire Hathaways. Or about 1 SVB. Of course she's sweating bullets right now.

[Anonymous No.54216940]

I am not worried AT ALL about futures going down a little bit

[Anonymous No.54216944]

>>54216718
we gotta wait and see how much they are swapping

[Anonymous No.54216968]

>>54215537
How do I invest in taytay?

[Anonymous No.54216971]

>>54216902
just tried the dipped churro cone today, very good slop

[Anonymous No.54216972]

>>54216968
LYV

[Anonymous No.54216978]

>>54216853
Physically impossible. They'll just print more.

[Anonymous No.54217020]

>>54216853
>>54216902
Gammon said our liquid FX reserves were comparable to 3rd worlders like Tajikistan
https://youtu.be/7zduYNc5Ssk

[Anonymous No.54217027]

how are my little wolves of wall street doing? :3

[Anonymous No.54217042]

>>54217027
Terrified of Wednesday's FOMC because the banking crisis seems to have been backstopped enough and markets stable enough for JPowell to still raise 25 basis points.

If that happens, hold on to your butts.

[Anonymous No.54217044]

>>54216968
You could ask her out on a date. Be prepared to have nothing in common habits. She has been working for the last decade and a half, basically non-stop touring and recording.
You, have been fucking around with $200 in RH and eating tendies.

[Anonymous No.54217063]

>>54216569
Incoming incredible generational slurprotunities aren't bullish
N
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[Anonymous No.54217070]

>>54217063
So, what is my buy point?

[Anonymous No.54217072]

>>54217063
Meant to green the first line

[Anonymous No.54217077]

>>54217042
Theres a contrarian take to this as well.

.25 bsp and the markets might take it that the banking crisis situation has stabilized enough where the Fed feels a .25 bsp hike wont break anything. Bullish.

0 bsp and the markets might take it as things are so critically fucked that the Fed is now too scared to raise interest rates further despite their hawkish rhetoric just the other week. Bearish.

Something to keep in mind.

[Anonymous No.54217129]

>>54217077
It went from 50bps 65% to now between 0 and 25. Market already knows it’s fucked.

[Anonymous No.54217150]

>>54217070
Of what? Who knows? Activate your tisms, stare at charts, compare fundamentals and analyst ratings, make calls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hx4gdlfamo

[Anonymous No.54217174]

>>54217077
Short term bullish? Sure.

But between all the Credit Suisse bond baggies, the past...fuck me it's only been a week? of treasury volatility, and any pause hope out there getting crushed, I'd sell that bounce.

Fucking GS would just announce they're closing on Friday or something.

[Anonymous No.54217194]

>>54215596
I would take profits at 1.5, 2x, and 3x sell the rest

[Anonymous No.54217198]

>>54217129
Market doesnt know shit right now. Everyone is merely guessing as to what sort of inflationary/deflationary effect this overseas central bank liquidity flow will have. I have been hearing literally both arguments 1:1 from every so-called "authority" on the markets all day today, its a complete coin toss right now, and itll be a complete coin toss still come Wednesday. All I can say is that this isn't your your normal November, 2022 "soft landing/Fed pivooot/to the moon!" market anymore and treating it as such could get you burned.

[Anonymous No.54217261]

me looking at futures right now after they were neon green and I left to go watch wrestlemania 7 for a few hours

[Anonymous No.54217275]

>>54217261
serena says pump it !

[Anonymous No.54217293]

>>54217077
Rape will continue until morale improves. Debt holders love taking it on the chin as seen by the CS bond holders getting obliterated while equity chads get ubs shares

[Anonymous No.54217296]

>>54217261
me knowing we'll be back green at open

[Anonymous No.54217301]

>>54217275
Id pump a hot load onto her face if she chose me as her bull

[Anonymous No.54217312]

Hong Kong Shanghai Bank Bros...

[Anonymous No.54217313]

>>54217296

[Anonymous No.54217327]

>>54217312
UBS, HSBC, they're all the same.

[Anonymous No.54217338]

Is liquidity swaps bullish for the dollar? Shall the dxy rise?

[Anonymous No.54217350]

>>54217296
>this would be something to smile about

[Anonymous No.54217379]

>>54217338
Two days ago, the anime singing indicator for DXY flipped bearish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S6ip7pj1hc

[Anonymous No.54217382]

>>54216789
The government can't BRR artificial demand for oil.

[Anonymous No.54217384]

>>54217338
Fucking hell how many times are we going to have to go through this
It's extremely bad for the dollar. Just think about the timing and wider macro picture here. The dollar is causing credit to seize up, that's why they even need to provide these swap lines. Eventually it will deflate once countries like China start dumping their debt back on the US. Then they will need to hyperinflate it. This has been gamed out constantly by people like dollar milkshake guy.

[Anonymous No.54217390]

>>54217382
Well they *do* have the SPR. And it's below Hochstein's stated price.

Not that he'll follow through but it's a theoretical bullish catalyst.

[Anonymous No.54217391]

>>54217384
Then how does the US win?

[Anonymous No.54217400]

>>54217391
Win?
>Insert incredulous gigachad meme here

[Anonymous No.54217410]

>>54217390
Oil is bad for the environment

[Anonymous No.54217413]

>>54217027
Lots of anxiety here. I don't think either bobos or mumus are comfy.

[Anonymous No.54217415]

Holy fuckamighty, there needs to be leveraged random length lumber futures ETFs like BOIL/KOLD.

[Anonymous No.54217421]

>>54217413
Goldchuds are

[Anonymous No.54217427]

>>54217410
Agreed. So what's better than to buy it and safely lock it up in those salt caverns? Every day we don't cram the SPR full of available barrels is another day they're burned in peoples' cars!

[Anonymous No.54217436]

The fed is joking about 2% inflation right

[Anonymous No.54217439]

ffs we dropped while I was sleeping and I didn't open shorts, now I have to wait again for another pump, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[Anonymous No.54217448]

>>54217410

[Anonymous No.54217453]

>>54217415
If you want to do a little legwork, you can get pretty similar behavior from WY calls. Use price and delta to figure out your effective leverage.

The best part is that lets you blow past the SEC's dumb 3x limit. How does 8x lumber sound?

[Anonymous No.54217463]

>>54217436
Just like they're joking about unemploying 5 million people.

[Anonymous No.54217469]

>>54217042
/smg/ told me 25 bepsis was bullish

[Anonymous No.54217473]

>>54217436
What do you mean? unrealistic? Was there some report in the last hours?

[Anonymous No.54217477]

>>54217469
>>54217174

[Anonymous No.54217486]

My strategy of 40% JEPI 60% cash has not been particularly successful as a defensive position. I am not confident in it's performance this coming week.

[Anonymous No.54217487]

>>54217198
Seems like the one thing fairly certain is that things are not going to be crabbing for awhile.

How about just buying a bunch of small puts and calls on SPY, SOXS, NVDA, etc. tomorrow with 10-15% stop losses ?

[Anonymous No.54217512]

>>54217487
I dont disagree. This is probably the only time in my life where I would say a long option straddle on Wednesday would be the only reliable, safe way to make money this week.

[Anonymous No.54217525]

Serious answers only
What do you call this chart

[Anonymous No.54217527]

>>54217384
The need for dollars is incredible. Fed generates dollars, accepts foreign currency as collateral. I dont see how this alone causes anything bad. Its more the amount of dollars needed daily is an incredibly worrying sign.

[Anonymous No.54217529]

>>54217525
The missing link

[Anonymous No.54217532]

>>54215525
Kitten is groomer speak. You are being groomed by the media into thinking everything is okay

[Anonymous No.54217537]

>>54217525
The Mannarino.

[Anonymous No.54217539]

>>54217525
chink

[Anonymous No.54217540]

i'm pretty confident tomorrow is going to be a red day. Thursday will probably be worse depending on what happens on Wednesday.

[Anonymous No.54217548]

Why the fuck didn't I keep my South Africa (JTOPI) shorts til today? How the fuck do they manage to drop now (last week) suddenly harder than DAX and others, albeit being filled with gold and other metal miners. That made me pussy out after making little profits. On top I was being PAID for having positions open overnight, kek.

[Anonymous No.54217555]

>>54217540
>i'm pretty confident tomorrow is going to be a red day

[Anonymous No.54217562]

>>54217525
That's a mess and I wouldn't touch it. Both the bounciness and the constant gaps.

[Anonymous No.54217580]

>>54217548
The EFF/communists are apparently going full Joker mode with a "shut down the country" protest, yeah?

Should be bullish for platinum too.

[Anonymous No.54217584]

>>54217555
inverse me. if you dare.

[Anonymous No.54217586]

>>54217525
It looks like a bearish Happy Merchant is forming

[Anonymous No.54217603]

>>54217453
It might be interesting to observe correlation between that futures and ticker, particularly paying attention to whatever lag there is before the futures hits the earnings there.

[Anonymous No.54217633]

>>54217580
It was a gamble since China was reopening on one side, the other was Eskom shitting the bed. Extremely bearish for the country, but do investors care? It would/could have been extremely bullish for gold and platinum, so metal miners could have mooned, although it would have been stupid, although I don't know how much electricity they generate on other ways (diesel for example).

I'm out of there for now.

[Anonymous No.54217650]

HSBC down 6% intraday, not looking good for EU/US open

[Anonymous No.54217674]

>>54217650
Buy low sell high (not financial advice)

[Anonymous No.54217697]

>>54217674
Retard advice. This is /biz/ slash ess em gee
We buy high and sell low here

[Anonymous No.54217711]

nasdaq bros....

[Anonymous No.54217715]

>>54217603
Not perfect, not terrible. The price action seems to have a pretty quick impact.

WFG is another lumber company but has a much shallower options market than WY.

[Anonymous No.54217720]

>>54217453
>How does 8x lumber sound?
Sounds like a lot of unironic faggotry

[Anonymous No.54217726]

>>54217674
Short low, cover lower (medical advice)

>>54217720
Enjoy your frozen crops, orange juice fag.

[Anonymous No.54217729]

>futures

[Anonymous No.54217732]

FRC baggies... if FRC goes under we agree to kill ourselves right?

[Anonymous No.54217738]

>>54217715
I'll be danged, that's definitely interesting and might even have something workable to it.

[Anonymous No.54217742]

>>54217732
Where we go one, we go all

[Anonymous No.54217743]

>>54217650
Did any American Banks have major CS bonds?

[Anonymous No.54217747]

>>54217738
Disclaimer: I don't know the first thing about the lumber market. I've just heard those tickers before and fucking love screwball leveraged plays.

[Anonymous No.54217752]

>>54217743
One would strongly expect them to, given how big CS was

[Anonymous No.54217768]

>>54217752
Large banks almost completely dumped their bags. CS has been a bleeding, stuck pig for years, so even if (as some anon posted a list a thread or two ago) Schwab or Goldman have 10 million shares, that won't kill them.

Now the pensions holding AT1 capital? Or smaller banks and funds that went all in on CS shares hoping for bailout bucks? Yeah, they're fucked.

[Anonymous No.54217771]

>>54217768
Yes, I'm mostly concerned for mid-sized banks and funds

[Anonymous No.54217774]

>>54217747
There's a WOOD ETF also, and some others, but not leveraged. I don't know anything about it either, but I see that random length lumber futures lit up neon a good bit.

Welp, time to pass out and wake up to the LORD GOD Almighty knows what. I already see that my chances of a BOIL slurp are slimming, bright green futes.

[Anonymous No.54217776]

>>54217768
Wouldn't that cause a ripple effect? What if other banks had stock into those other fucked banks?

[Anonymous No.54217780]

>>54217776
CBs step in at that point

[Anonymous No.54217790]

>>54217771
Well if you want a bit of legwork I think it was a thread or two someone had posted the list of shareholders and was freaking out about Schwab in particular.

>>54217776
Yes. But while funds are no-doubt fucked, banks get insta-backing from the Fed and pensions get backing from the Feds.

[Anonymous No.54217791]

was i tricked into bagholding oil by permabulls like eric nuttall
multi year rally my ass, energy crisis my ass

[Anonymous No.54217808]

Futes turned red, I think we get some selling at open and then probably slow crawl up unless something changes during euro hours
>>54217790
I closed all my positions 2 weeks ago because it looked like complete uncertainty about stonks mooning or crashing, I am biased towards crashing but Im not betting my money on it

[Anonymous No.54217810]

>>54217711
Enthusiasm for the suicide bull appears to have waned some in recent hours.

[Anonymous No.54217813]

>>54217726
The joke was that a bundle of sticks is called a faggot and youre leveraged as fuck, so it is, again, quite literally faggotry

[Anonymous No.54217815]

Shit is about to get real.

[Anonymous No.54217820]

>>54217808
Yeah even if I wanted to bet one way or the other, there's 0 chance big money hadn't already taken a look at who was most exposed to a Credit Suisse collapse. The time to do the research and buy puts was 2 weeks ago.

[Anonymous No.54217823]

>>54217815
Warren: Well, if you had called me two years ago maybe I could have helped.

[Anonymous No.54217828]

>>54217815
Does that mean troubled banks would get slurped up at pennies on the dollar and made private, leaving retail with no meaningful plays?

[Anonymous No.54217830]

>>54217813
Oh kek nice.

OJ niggers are still bitter baggies. 275 literally never happening.

[Anonymous No.54217832]

>>54217815
oh my fucking god

[Anonymous No.54217836]

>>54217808
>closed all my positions 2 weeks ago
Are we supposed to do that when things look bad? I don't understand at all how people could hold for so long when the economy collapses so frequently. How is anyone supposed to start a new portfolio when the whole thing is expected to tank this frequently.

[Anonymous No.54217842]

>>54216102
Yes.

[Anonymous No.54217844]

>>54217815
The fuck is Buffett gonna do? He couldn't do shit about the trains that he fucking owns without derailments and chemical nukes happening.

[Anonymous No.54217858]

>>54217836
I did it because I dont want to play the game of "predict what the fed is going to do", but generally if you want to make a lot of money these days are when you do that

[Anonymous No.54217859]

>>54217828
Imagine retail shit like Walmart and Amazon get fucked from all of this shit happening kek

[Anonymous No.54217864]

>>54217844
He can do more insider trading

[Anonymous No.54217874]

Gold dip slurped

[Anonymous No.54217878]

All these "backstops" and "liquidity facilities" are just turning a banking crisis into a hyperinflation/sovereign debt crisis, which is arguably worse.

[Anonymous No.54217882]

>>54217815
They didnt reach any deals
My guess is Buffett wanted a backstop if he were to effectively buy out the midsized banks, and Biden isn't desperate enough yet to provide one
Buffett will most likely end up buying them up later on, with a backstop, and for cheaper

[Anonymous No.54217893]

>>54217882
Doesn't he only have a few months to live or some shit?

[Anonymous No.54217895]

>>54217893
Does it matter?

[Anonymous No.54217903]

>>54217828
When he did this with Goldman Sachs, it stayed public.

[Anonymous No.54217905]

did 4chan change its font? the posts look weird today. also, you are all bad at "investing" (gambling)

[Anonymous No.54217906]

>>54217895
Yes, because then there won't be anybody to take one for the team and buy those toxic banks.

[Anonymous No.54217914]

>>54217906
You do know Buffett is not the single person working at Berkshire Hathaway, right

[Anonymous No.54217915]

Imagine if Buffet saves regionals like he saved Goldman back in 08

[Anonymous No.54217924]

>>54217859
I work at WMT and hold 80 shares (at a 13% discount, my ACB is like $100) and at 100 I'll be wheeling them
Cant speak for the company but our store posted record district sales last quarter. In general, a lot of growth was in the online and grocery segments. AMZN has been crashing, badly, as an overlevered tech giant. We're positioned to do much of the same thing they do, have existing physical locations with wide market penetration, a strong logistic fleet, and when shtf last week, we lost maybe 6% share value. Plus it has a huge cash moat and does quarterly buybacks.
I dont want to sound shillish, but it got as big as it did for a reason. Though as large as it is, growth is probably slowing unless they go hard on Mexico or India

[Anonymous No.54217932]

>futures

[Anonymous No.54217943]

>>54217924
WMT plus was a great move honestly. Didn't shop much there because it was too far away from my apartment but I always preferred them because of their wider selection of goods compared to the Safeway and Trader Joe's on my block.

[Anonymous No.54217953]

>we're getting hyperinflation mumu

do you have a single fact to back that up bobo? (2008 bailouts did not cause inflation ;) )

[Anonymous No.54217955]

>>54217932
wtf I just got promoted

[Anonymous No.54217966]

>>54217953
We were in deflation in 2008. Today we're already in inflation, retard.

[Anonymous No.54217969]

>>54217953
First of all, the bobo that told you this is retarded
If CBs step in, yes, sure, but the latest coordinated CB move points to dollar appreciation, as there's LITERALLY not enough dollars to go around

[Anonymous No.54217973]

>futures
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.54217974]

>>54217966
tell me how hyperinflation will occur

i will wait

[Anonymous No.54217976]

>>54217844
He owns BNSF, not Norfolk Southern.

[Anonymous No.54217992]

>>54217974
When you print trillions of dollars while you're already experiencing inflation. In 2008 the printing was done to cancel out the effects of deflation, but now in 2023 all you retards are taking that for granted and now you think you can just fire up the printer whenever you feel like.

[Anonymous No.54217998]

FFS WHY DID I GO TO BED AND NOT AT LEAST DCA SHORTS

[Anonymous No.54218002]

Is there some news that just dropped?

[Anonymous No.54218005]

>>54217878
Funny enough, they might not. Sure we keep a bunch of regional banks alive with emergency lending, but they have been spooked. They'll tighten lending standards, ditch the emergency Fed loans the second bank lobbies empty, and deflate the shit out of the economy alongside panicked normies.

If they went under and got absorbed by the megabanks, that would've ironically caused more inflation. Loan creation would've kept on humming.

[Anonymous No.54218010]

>>54218002
https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/credit-suisse-takeover-central-bank-action-calm-jittery-markets-2023-03-20/

[Anonymous No.54218014]

>>54217992
why didnt QE and bank bailouts cause inflation during 2009-2019? Why does japan have deflation for decades despite practising yield curve control and QE?

[Anonymous No.54218015]

>>54218002
I'm about to coom in your mother

[Anonymous No.54218016]

PURE SCAM market, you can't tell me otherwise. Pumping for 1-2 hours and then dumping as if they suddenly realized that something isn't as bullish as they thought. So stupid. Can't even keep it up for a few hours more.

[Anonymous No.54218021]

>>54218002
dunno but 10 years are inversing SPX

[Anonymous No.54218032]

>>54218010
Ah.

[Dumb Tranner She/Her !6/zwku47aA No.54218037]

>>54215488
Did John die from a heart attack yet?

[Anonymous No.54218042]

>>54218014
Because 2008 US and Japan today are both in a DEFLATIONARY ENVIRONMENT, jesus. Why is it so hard for you to read? Printing + deflationary macro = stable currency. Printing + inflationary macro = severe inflation.

[Anonymous No.54218043]

>>54218021
Woah. Whats up with that? People fleeing equity for the safety of bonds?

[Anonymous No.54218049]

>>54218002
Oil in particular getting extra heemed.

[Anonymous No.54218054]

>>54218005
The toxic assets are already on their balance sheets.

[Anonymous No.54218057]

ffs my DAX short completely ruined, only because I was thinking about fuckin monday Rheinmetall joining DAX. Now we are so low I can't fuckin short, but I can only expect them to pump in 1 1/2 hours.

[Anonymous No.54218059]

>>54218042
Printing for stimmy checks != QEing dollars to idly sit on some Jew bank's balance sheet

[Anonymous No.54218060]

>>54217974
Everyone dumps their Hebrew bucks

[Anonymous No.54218070]

>>54218054
The assets aren't toxic in any meaningful sense. What regional banks are is short of liquidity in the event of bank runs.

[Anonymous No.54218069]

Market will open at -2% at this rate

[Anonymous No.54218071]

>>54218042
you dont really know what youre saying eh, you keep repeating these midwit maverick of wallstreet talking points. please stop, learn some financial literacy. get some information about markets from non zero-hedge fringe sources. every single day its the same with bobos, the world is ending.....in two weeks!

buy puts and get heemed, you will never make it

[Anonymous No.54218079]

>>54217836
It depends on what kind of investor/trader you are. I'm a 33 year old boomer. I never sell (to be fair I do sell off bits of my positions when the price goes up a lot). But mostly just buy. Been buying for the last 9 months. Getting a big tax refund soon. Gonna buy more.

[Anonymous No.54218080]

>>54218018
>>54218018
>>54218018
>>54218018

[Anonymous No.54218091]

>>54218043
no clue. Everything longer than 1 year is rallying.

[Anonymous No.54218802]

>>54217905
We know

[Anonymous No.54219874]

Is anyone here actually worried about bank collapses? Unironically seems like bobo fantasy hour again after they watched The Big Short one too many times.

Even if there IS an unavoidable crisis, it seems more likely that they go full money printer and bail out the banks. Hyperinflation seems more desirable for the big boys than outright calamity.