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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0NXdZAOCF4

>> No.54203551

This guy turned out to be a coof afraid little fagot

>> No.54203564
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>>54203551

>> No.54203611

>>54203533
Literally what is going on with the chainlink community I thought this guy was one of their biggest bulls lmao

>> No.54203639

>>54203564
that was the moment I broke, when I saw him, allegedly one of the brightest and most decorated academics of our time, wearing a fucking coof mask like a fag

>> No.54203653

>>54203639
Between the mask and writing everything with with she/her when referring to the user, it became clear that he is actually a Master Cuckold

>> No.54203678

>>54203639
>>54203653
He's doing it all ironically. He actually views every other human as little insects beneath his plane of existence. Everything he does is a little inside-joke that only he's in on.

>> No.54203689

>>54203678
>he's just pretending to be retarded
k

>> No.54203712

>>54203533
what happened to all your other videos?

>> No.54203714

>>54203611
>I thought this guy was one of their biggest bulls lmao
we realized that the only bull in the chainlink relationship was Sergey as he was fucking our wallets

>> No.54203727

>>54203611
LINK is dead, fucking finally, next on the stale meme chopping block should be the normalnigger greenfrogfaggotposters

>> No.54203731

>>54203678
>He's doing it all ironically. He actually views every other human as little insects beneath his plane of existence. Everything he does is a little inside-joke that only he's in on.
delusion

>> No.54203760

>>54203533
Kek did you not lose tons of money on Everest ID?

>> No.54203828

>>54203533

> Makes video about Sandro Salsano
> Shills Dogshit Everest and loses all his money
> Account goes dark...
.......
> Comes back to release Chainlink FUD

There is a rootless international clique actively working together daily to suppress the price of Chainlink

>> No.54203830

>>54203828
everyone is dabbing on linkshit baggies lmao

>> No.54203864

>>54203533
CT, I respectfully disagree. We're all gonna make it, but only if we build it. The smart contract adoption isn't going to happen on its own and Chainlink and the rest of the Web3 community is quite frankly too small to do it alone.

>> No.54203872

I think it was a year or so ago he made a post which I don't remember well but I think it was something along the lines of being disillusioned and hating the community he had made and deleted all his videos as a result.

>> No.54204025

>>54203533
Sir I did not redeem that Everest sir but the the village on has one last bowl of curry sir plese sir

>> No.54204046

>>54203760
this. getting real tired of them spamming everest pajeet coin

>> No.54204069

Best content in literal years

>> No.54204104
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>>54203533
Checked, nice to see you clt anon. The sentiment in video resonates - price action culled all favor and organic memes. If only the team knew just how many memes you made (and then for bob and id). I for one applaud your work, even the bob balls leaving other projects gaping
> t patiently but increasingly painfully waiting for the token to finally be needed and have the betrayal end

>> No.54204114

Someone post this fat fuck's video where he flipped out over covid. DR;NS

>> No.54204166

>>54204104
it was more then price action. They made a second fucking white paper before finishing the key components of the first one. This whole time we were lead to believe they were working on staking and they never started

>> No.54204346

>>54203551
>>54203760
>>54203864
>>54204025
>>54204114
kill yourselves linknigger cucks LOL

>> No.54204378

so what about everest ID ? u still hold it ?

>> No.54204475

>>54204166
Was a bit of a bitch move from Sergey to claim on the zach podcast that he thinks he delivered all of whitepaper 1.0. Was actually pretty annoying to hear him say that.

>> No.54204482

>>54204475
he's simply no better than charles, albeit he's less of a clown

>> No.54204488

>>54204378
no you fucking pajeet, it’s a scam

>> No.54204614

>>54204488
explain ?

>> No.54204628
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54204628

I never claimed to be good at timing the market. I'm just unfortunately, extremely early. Still accumulating Everest and hoping it will go back to 2c. If you believe it's a scam based on the price action you genuinely are a retard. They just put out a new widget that lets people buy crypto directly to an eth wallet with nokyc under $1000. Everest is the best play for upcoming regulations. Watch the video again and maybe do some research on MiCA.
>>54204104
this guy fucks

>> No.54204637

I don't remember the LINK sentiment on all fronts being this low ever lmao

one final flushout to $3-4 and I'm slurping all your hate market sell positions

>> No.54204645

>>54204482
>he's simply no better than charles, albeit he's less of a clown
You’re retarded if you compare sirgay to that soi infused faggot

>> No.54204653

>>54204637
dump your all lunchmoney in it now, reddit spacing linknigger lol

>> No.54204672

>>54204628
bro please tell me you at least got some of the arbitrum airdrop, don't tell me you've literally just been catching the knife with Everest and nothing else for a year straight

>> No.54204678

>>54204475
he must have a bunch of yes men around him. There has been this problem with community advocates that just auto ban people to keep their jobs. I dont think sergey actually is aware of how mad the community is, now with the time line being shit up every tweet he has to adress it because he cant sweep it under the rug like he did with cronje and everyone else he fucked over

>> No.54204683

>>54204637
It’s way WAY lower than it has ever been. I think it’s a result of so many people NOT selling in the $30-50 range. We all had stacks worth 6-7 figures and now are poorfags again. That is pretty depressing and frankly humiliating because I think the reason we didn’t sell was because literal dog shitcoins and EVM clones were outpacing us so we just thought in no world was that the end of the pump. And then it was. We are now the greater fools, just a sad group of pissed off bag holders clinging onto “but I bought at 10 cents” when in reality we all know in this space a 70x over 6 years is fucking pathetic.

>> No.54204728

>>54203864
Shut up cuck

>> No.54204744

Always thought this fag was annoying and cringe. Remember his smart con vid with the plushie? Lame. Part of the problem.

Anyway despite that this vid raises good points and its clear morale is at its worst ever, and yes, you can definitely point tue finger at Chainlink/Sergey for some of it.
It was a very bad move in particular to anounce staking on Jan 1st and it didn’t come till like 20th of Dec. Wut? Then CCIP never even came.

Its ok to delay shit. What isnt ok is just failing to acknowledge it at all. Like.. CCIP? Fair enough we got staking although they should have said what half of the year at least, and if it was originally planned for Q1/2 and got delayed to say so(its better than what they did), but CCIP never even has been acknowledged. He clearly said CCIP this year on Jan 2022.

Sergey/Chainlink have such stupid petty little problems which can be easily handled but for some reason they decide to just destroy morale instead.

Community buz/price activity gets shit noticed and adopted. I wonder if price feeds would have grown like they did had the token price not performed at the time and community made it into a commodity? We’ll never know.

People can handle delays. If anything its good for a narrative to build. What people cant handled is being ignored, lied to etc.

>> No.54204762

>>54204744
>you can definitely point tue finger at Chainlink/Sergey for all of it.
ftfy
the fatass is 100% to blame and anyone saying otherwise is a retarded simp

>> No.54204766

>>54204683
You're absolutely right, this sums it up pretty well. What should someone do in this case?

>> No.54204776

>>54204645
that's right marine, keep putting a morbidly obese, arrogant, clueless CEO on a pedastal despite all the numerous red flags he's exhibiting
>>54204744
>for some reason they decide to just destroy morale instead
>for some reason
kek, it's hilarious realizing you retards are STILL in denial

>> No.54204801

>>54204744
>People can handle delays. If anything its good for a narrative to build. What people cant handled is being ignored, lied to etc.
dumb ass. What have they been doing since the first white paper? this isnt about delays, wtf have they been doing this whole time?

>> No.54204813

>>54204628
>I never claimed to be good at timing the market
you can time all you want but may not get the bottom. best to research, analyze and decide an entry point. cmc, coingecko, altcoinistdao works best for research

>> No.54204817

>>54204762
This. He gaslit the entire community with "CCIP and enterprise abstraction layer" and delivered/mentioned neither. He has no fucking clue. I attended Smartcon, there was virtually no substance to any of the conference. The entire company deals in hypotheticals and larps as a faang company without the sales

>> No.54204839

>>54204766
>What should someone do in this case?
sell

>> No.54204873

>>54204766
Idk anon, hard to say what the right move is at this point. It’s almost guaranteed plenty of obvious plays outpace LINK in the next run. But my current plan is to see this year through, maybe if we get some kind of big pump for some unknown reason I’ll diversify part of my stack out once it begins to stall. If LINK falls out of top 30 I think I’m just going to bail. If it can’t keep trend with the plethora of literal scams surrounding it then the fact is it doesn’t matter how amazing the tech might be or the promise it can bring financially… underperformance is underperformance, and I’m not wasting another bull run praying for LINK to do the bare fucking minimum.

>> No.54204890

>>54204678

Thats an issue. Twitter is short form and people just spam anger on tweets so if he sees anything its just that. These kind of discussions arent probably happening on twitter like on biz so I doubt the message gets through. Like the failure to acknowledge CCIP lie.

>> No.54204914

>>54204873
Thanks, just sold!

>> No.54204917

>>54204817
>The entire company deals in hypotheticals and larps as a faang company without the sales
the most accurate description I've seen on this board, well done anon.

>> No.54204949

>>54204614
kill yourself faggot

>> No.54204953

>>54203533
100% about them treating the community with disdain. When we're praising them, great. When we say we're not happy we get "get back to dancing you fucking monkeys".

There's zero respect or reciprocity. If we're not brainless cheerleaders we're useless to them. That said whilst zach and oracle whatever are community advocates I doubt they're instructed word for word on every tweet. Them saying "shut up and sell if you don't like it" most likely had nothing to do with chainlink itself.

>> No.54204986

>>54204953
>most likely had nothing to do with chainlink itself.
this means nothing when you realize they're official community advocates, meaning that to a certain extend their public messages are endorsed by Chainlink, if they weren't they would have taken them down I suppose

>> No.54205010

>>54204953
>There's zero respect or reciprocity. If we're not brainless cheerleaders we're useless to them.
They made it quite obvious you are useless to them even as brainless cheerleaders. They tolerated you Twitter imbeciles but were never happy with the exposure they got from it.

>> No.54205031

>>54204986
At this point Im sceptical of chainlink's competency in general so i wouldn't be surprised if they never check the advocates activity. But i just don't see it that the team would tell their PR guys to go on the attack against the community and tell them to sell if they don't like it. I think that's just standard prissy bitch posting from feminine personalities like zach.

>> No.54205045

>>54204917
Thanks anon, truly representative of their output

>> No.54205065

>>54205010
This is probably true i suppose. It's not like they ever really courted a community, even back in 2019 Sergey's response to it seemed to be a kind of partially humoured acceptance but not overt interest.

But in the past 2 years it seems like they stepped up attempts at community building, actively trying to build one separate from 4chan.

>> No.54205072

>>54204986
>Opinions are my own
They can post post le funny epic memes and whatever elese completely unrelated to LINK if they want as well, all as long as they don't break any NDAs. Not that they are even given any valuable information which isn't already public lol.

That's how it goes for most of these made up community positions, their "job" is basically just to sum up already released public information and make it digestible for the masses, that's it.

>> No.54205111

If there’s any actual “there” there, then these are just bottom signals flashing in bright neon lights. If there isn’t, then you’re probably looking at the next litecoin. Also the video was only 5 minutes long yet half of you couldn’t even watch to the end, he implied you should hold your link. Which again I can’t tell if it’s just another midwit sell signal or a ray of hope. Though to be honest I think link needs max pain still, and max pain would be capitulation at the same time staking unlocks.

Was also studying eth’s chart the other day, it dropped 89% vs bitcoin after 2017, link is at 87% now, but the next 2% is about a 50% drop from where we are. It then didn’t wake up until right around the time link’s run ended in August 2020. If something similar happens for link, you’re looking at capitulation (in sats) in the next few months, then a whole nother year of crab against the market while something else takes the spotlight this cycle, and then finally something in 2024. Top would be $100-$400 but you could shake out a whole lot of neets with 1 more year of shit performance.

>> No.54205140

>>54205111
checked but delusional hopium
LINK's runup from 2018-20 wasn't even remotely similar to ETH's original run from 2016-18, there is absolutely no reason to believe LINK is about to follow ETH's bear fractal

>> No.54205150

>>54205065
They are trying to build a dev community like Ethereum has. Just look at their Youtube, it's very obvious who they are trying to court. Brainless cheerleaders still not needed.

>> No.54205153

>>54205111
CHECKED 2 MORE WEEKS ANONS TRUST THE PLAN, FUD IS BULLISH THEY'RE TRYING TO SHAKE (((US))) OUT, HOLD THE LINE MARINES

>> No.54205159

>>54203864
Chainlink cultists literally said retail wasn’t needed lol

>> No.54205177

>>54205111
Eth has never recovered it's 2017 point against BTC. It also reached it's bottom post crash in sept 2019 and started climbing from there. Your analysis seems all over the place.

>> No.54205205

I suspect CCIP was put back until this year because the Swift date was pushed back. I have a feeling CCIP's maiden voyage will be the announcement that Swift will be using it. I could be wrong of course, but this would make absolute sense. Plus, the thing Sergey said this week about March.
Tomorrow is the 20th. The day Swift goes live. We shall see.

>> No.54205212

>>54205111
* We are also currently 938 days out from link/btc high. ETH/BTC found its bottom 819 days from the peak. So if there was any similarity you couldn't ask for a new low.

>> No.54205232

>>54205140
To be honest it wasn’t even hopium, I think most here would be heavily disappointed with a 2x of previous ath. But the comparison was based on how far the crash vs bitcoin might be, and assuming regardless of fundamentals that every alt is just another shitcoin after it’s first cycle. Also you have to admit a link capitulation at staking unlock maybe combined with recession pushing btc into a double bottom and link touching $1-$3 just as stakers are allowed to sell is a bear’s wet dream. Even if you hate link it’s an easy buy there to just dump at $20-30.

>> No.54205246

>>54203533
BASED

>> No.54205263

>>54205232
I firmly believe that
1. we'll reach $2-1 valuations well before the staking unlock
2. staking v.02 will be inevitably delayed past the 9-12 months they have announced
also this>>54205212

>> No.54205288

>>54205177
Sept 2019 lines up with when staking should unlock for link (q4 2023). My analysis isn’t all over the place, it’s mostly bearish unless you’re bearish on all of crypto, with a faint shred of hope. It’s worst case scenario for everyone here though, because most would rather just see link go to zero if they sell and give up on it, but people still with hope couldn’t stomach another year of underperformance against the market. And that’s why I think it’ll happen, nobody wins in that scenario besides insiders who timed the market.

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>>54204346
t. pic related

>> No.54205351

>>54205288
How does sept 2019 line up with Q4 2023? In sats terms it's way further out in the cycle. By that point ETH was already well up from the bottom.

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>>54205341
>t. pic related

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>>54205359
did you post yourself lmao
hows the ED faggot

>> No.54205412

>>54203533
Swift going live is set for tomorrow 20th March, not 23rd March as stated in your film

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>>54205406
>did you post yourself lmao
>hows the ED faggot
t.chaincuck simp

>> No.54205495

>>54205412
I still doubt CCIP has anything to do with ISO20022. I've never seen any response to the fact that that's just an interbank messaging system.

I feel like some of Sergey's talk about unreasonable expectations leading to disappointment might have been directed at that. If anything is going to come of the Swift POC it'll be much later in the year.

>> No.54205509

>>54203611
He switched to Everest (and now back?)

>> No.54205574

>>54205412
Yeah, my mistake. Sorry about that, I updated the video description. I could've sworn I saw it was the 23rd somewhere, perhaps I got it mixed up with Pluto' entering Aquarius.

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>>54203678
Ari Juels is a complete midwit, he's probably triple vaxxed and thought covid was the 21st century bubonic plague.

The entire Chainlink team is made up of midwits, including fucking Sergey

>> No.54205653

>>54203564
Sad

>> No.54205655

>>54205605
>The entire Chainlink team is made up of midwits, including fucking Sergey
this
half the team lost money on celsius and bancor, including the fatass himself
imagine trusting a pornwhore with all the usd you made from selling your fatair token but realizing that it doesn't matter if you lose it all because you have 500 million fatair tokens left to dump on the retail that you don't need

>> No.54205664

>>54205605
Most of the world is midwits get over yourself.

>> No.54205732

>>54205351
I'm not basing this on a fractal, simply the amount down from high vs btc. eth hit is low vs btc in late q3/q4 of the recovery year for the market. link if it bottoms in sats when staking unlocks, would do roughly the same.
>>54205263
I'm more or less in agreement, not positive about the second part but it wouldn't surprise me. I wonder if you have the self awareness to admit that we may just be bottom signals though? I know for a fact that I'm a midwit when it comes to crypto and only got into link early by lurking for weeks and following the back and forths of autists far more capable than myself.
I genuinely believe its over now, I have been bear posting for about a month despite never having done so in the past, and been telling anons if link breaks below 29k sats it is a sell signal. I'm sort of playing devil's advocate in this thread a bit, though CLT is as well if you actually watched his video, the last 10 seconds was the most obvious wink to hold I've ever seen in my life. Not that it matters anyways to be honest, anyone who has held this long is staked or isn't selling here, and there is zero hype for anyone new to actually start buying either.

>> No.54205750

>>54203678
Damm I hold Link but this is some epic cope bro. Just embarrassing.

>> No.54205825

>>54205732
>I wonder if you have the self awareness to admit that we may just be bottom signals though
I think we're experiencing mass disillusionment and we're coming to terms with reality, especially after Sergey's podcast. My sentiment isn't overtly negative because of PA, but mostly because of the team's shortcomings, PA is the cherry on top.
So desu yeah we could be bottom signals but it certainly doesn't feel like SIBOS '17, mid '18 dump to ICO levels, or even the absolute bottom and despair of the previous bear with radio silence for over 6 months.
This time I genuinely believe there are no fundamentals in play here and everything is up in the air.

>> No.54205990

>>54205825
I disagree on the no fundamentals in play part, and to be honest for the first time I actually feel there is some similar sentiment in terms of 2018/19 bear, just in terms of how uncertain everything appears. The difference was, at that time there was still genuine question marks for crypto as a whole, this was BTC's first cycle where the masses really noticed it, and a lot of people genuinely thought it was over for all of crypto at that time. This time nobody really questions if all of crypto will die, but I think alts are really under the spotlight now, in no small part due to how many scams took the spotlight during the bull, and adding in things like the SEC and macro factors. The fundamentals for link really haven't changed much at all in the past couple of years, but the view of the market has such that nobody actually believes fundamentals matter anymore. Look at BNB, that is my canary in the coal mine, as long as it controls and dominates this market, everything's just as fake and gay as it was with FTX beside them, arguably even moreso in some ways as CZ has no challengers right now.

The thing that would really get me bullish again on crypto as a whole and probably link as well is seeing some sort of insolvency for binance and a true final crash for the market, with CZ locked up. But I don't think its possible at this point.

>> No.54206081

>>54205990
'18 sentiment was that Link was kingmade
did you even listen to the podcast anon?
>The fundamentals for link really haven't changed much at all in the past couple of years
that is the issue here, we're back at square one, still no staking, reputation, slashing, etc
fundamentals are lacking so I respectfully disagree with your conclusion.
The rest of your post is not particularly relevant to this conversation.

>> No.54206102

>>54205990
go post your brainlet drivel on twitter

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Stay stinky, linkies.

>> No.54206488

>>54206148
Not showering until $LINK = $1kEOY

>> No.54206964

>>54206488
Checked, and I WILL be attending smartcon every year from here on out making everyone's lives miserable.

>> No.54207185

>>54206081
Yes I listened, just looking at the market from a macro instead of link focused view. What I meant by fundamentals not changing is if one was bullish 2 years ago, they wouldn't have reason not to be now, but part of the problem is nobody knows how to view link, if you view it in the context of the next amazon/google it looks like amateur hour still, if you view it relative to the rest of crypto then none of this makes any sense because the rest of the market pumps on absolute hot air.
Also as far as staking its a chicken and egg problem, the network effect needs to be there for it to be feasible, that has to come before everything else and the fact anons still aren't grasping this is probably partly Sirgay's fault for not articulating this enough. There's literally nothing link can do that can speed up the process of staking beyond doing everything they can to spur more crypto adoption, and that's a massive uphill battle in a bear market.

The biggest issue you might argue is the implication that SWIFT was going to just do all of the heavy lifting themselves and retail not needed, but that's as much anons on here convincing themselves of that as anything, chainlink operated in a way as to maximize network effect through usecases like DeFi, they didn't sit on their hands waiting for SWIFT.

All that being said I feel I've gone too far in the other direction now, I understand your general point about anons feeling link was kingmade. Those vibes I think are nearly impossible to come back, because the project was unknown at that time, at this point anyone who was there back then is sitting on a -95% in usd and -85-90% in sats/gwei, I know you're saying price action isn't affecting your sentiment but even if that's somehow true, it can't be for the majority, you can't ignore that sort of price action, tech and fundamentals blah blah blah but everyone is here to get rich.

>> No.54207274

>>54203533
>>54203551
>>54203564
>>54203564
>>54203611
>>54203639
>>54203653
>>54203678
>>54203689
Dude just buy an ad lmao

>> No.54207522

>>54207185
Chainlink has just been overrun by faggots. There used to be based anons like CLT generating content, not to garner a reputation, but just to spread interesting and entertaining information. Now we have a bunch of twitter and discord faggots that have literally been paid by chainlink to hash out all of the memes and information created and amassed by anons here. Listening to those twitter faggots talk to sergey about his plaid shirt, big macs, and memes was fucking exhausting. Any one of us that has been here since the start would have asked serious questions regarding the status of aspects of the overall network.

Additionally, when Sergey said "Well, I can't predict what the next use case will be" I think everyone would have liked to say "cut the BS, NFTs and DeFi aren't real use cases beyond siphoning money away from idiots. What use cases is Chainlink actually helping to develop in real world finance with existing major banks and corporations. If you can't speak specifics, give general ideas.

It's really frustrating that billions of dollars worth of tokens were sold to pay these faggots and all of the other useless chainlink employees still on the payroll.

>> No.54207650

>>54207522
checked and agreed with all of this
But can this
>What use cases is Chainlink actually helping to develop in real world finance with existing major banks and corporations. If you can't speak specifics, give general ideas.
even happen without funding from the siphoning money away from idiots part, and/or VC funding? That's not a defense of chainlink either, if that is the case and they didn't anticipate it then they're fools for being caught with their pants down and having to pivot to this fake and gay community engagement and twitter faggot bullshit.

>> No.54207730

>>54207522
>billions of dollars worth of tokens were sold
estimated 5 billion worth of tokens in usd dumped on the market and they have nothing to show for it
that's indefensible and all the paid shills and bagholders know it

>> No.54207827

>>54207650
Chainlink is constantly releasing content about NFTs and other gay bull shit. They don't need to pay a team of "Developer Relations" faggots to make videos about minting NFTs. They don't need to pay for all of these community meet ups around the world to talk about NFTs. It's all embarrassing amateur hour shit. Chainlink could have just focused on building needed technology instead of participating in the faggotry. I guess too many people in the tech world are just inherently faggots.

>> No.54207842

>>54207185
>Also as far as staking its a chicken and egg problem,
no nigger. They could flip the switch right now and make money. Defi is a fucking meme and its a way to steal from retail. Why the fuck would you use link when you're going to dump the token a month later

>> No.54207910

name drop [redacted redacted] and disappear off the internet

This asset is blown.

>> No.54207951

>>54207522
>Additionally, when Sergey said "Well, I can't predict what the next use case will be" I think everyone would have liked to say "cut the BS, NFTs and DeFi aren't real use cases beyond siphoning money away from idiots. What use cases is Chainlink actually helping to develop in real world finance with existing major banks and corporations. If you can't speak specifics, give general ideas.

They're looking to developers to pave the path with their tools. When Steve gave the background behind the origins of Chainlink Functions he openly admitted feeling frustrated that developers were only interested in the price oracles and no one was doing anything significant with the significantly more difficult tot use AnyAPI + external adapter combination. So they're banking on the next renaissance to be a combination of Chainlink Functions and DECO for completely new use cases and between sensitive data being able to be onboarded and the ease of access to API. Combine that with CCIP and no one will be paying attention to the chain they're using.

As I said before, we're all gonna make it, but only if WE build it.

Or you could just wait for SWIFT to push along staking.

>> No.54207960

>>54207842
Yes it is, do you understand link staking? Not the fake 0.1 version, the one described in the whitepaper. If the network is only doing 50 million a year in transactions (whatever the number is right now, I don't remember) then how are you going to pay stakers enough to incentivize them to stake their link without subsidization? Where is the money coming from? And if you're making the rewards scale to network revenue, then nobody will stake because it won't be worth it.

>> No.54208089

>>54207951
If WE build what exactly? I think by now everyone realizes that trying to stuff a smart contract into every application is retarded with how the world operates right now. It is inifitely cheaper and easier to NOT use smart contracts.

However, now I'm starting to realize with GPT4 and banks collapsing that there may actually be some utility in just taking banking into your own hands if you can convince regular people to bank with you. I haven't tried plugging all of the functions docs into GPT4, but if I had enough motivation to connect cashapp/venmo APIs with Web3, I could create all kinds of easy-to-use financial agreements pretty easily. The problem still always remains though: there's no reason for most people to use this technology right now. And I'm not going to try to get a bunch of third worlders to use the tech.

>> No.54208118

>>54207960
And before you say
>just force node operators to stake
Same problem, but with operating costs of the node. I know link bragged about most nodes being profitable, but what they didn't say is the important ones (like the ones on eth) still aren't due to gas costs. You can't put a gun to node operators heads and tell them to stake their link and continue to work at a loss, they won't do it. So what link needs to do is both monetize the network and increase network activity enough that all nodes are profitable before staking 1.0 can even be considered. Its a massive uphill battle and I think they definitely underestimated certain aspects of it like how absurd gas would become on ethereum. Also they basically helped build their own solution to the gas problem and got backstabbed (arbitrum) so that probably set things back a good bit as well.

None of this is to absolve link of their own mistakes in this, but if you don't understand why staking can't just go live right now, you don't understand what chainlink staking is.

>> No.54208401

>>54208089
>If WE build what exactly? I think by now everyone realizes that trying to stuff a smart contract into every application is retarded with how the world operates right now. It is inifitely cheaper and easier to NOT use smart contracts.

Off the top of my head with DECO we can do undercollateralized lending and bring the trillion dollar lending industry to crypto. We could also use DECO to verify identity for voting to prevent another election 2020 from happening again.

Then you could pretty much recreate a number of services like Uber to cut out the middleman and improve the rates for drivers and other contributors to the platform.

The name of the game is to look for instances where there is financial benefits from foul play to use Smart contracts on and look for instances where a company is not obeying their own ToS and replace them with a DAO variant.

>> No.54208516

>>54208401
whos going to code that? im wating for this peice of shit token to be worth something so i can just pay a fucking dev to do it. But that fat fuck hasnt produced anything of value

>> No.54208667
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>>54208516
You are a retard.

Do yourself a solid, sell your chainlink and move on with your life.

>> No.54208758

>>54207522
Retard, DeFi is the only reason chainlink got traction in the first place. Brainlets like you should buy XRP, it's more your style.

>> No.54208789

>>54208667
>>54208758
>low iq linkniggers calling people retarded
lmao
to
moar
weaks
mahweens

>> No.54208801

>>54208516
You hold Link and sound like a dick

>> No.54208957

Just market sold my 10,000 sui stack. It's over. Token not sneeded

>> No.54209441
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54209441

>>54204628
1 LINK = 1 ID

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>>54209441
Are you saying the sheer tokenomics of ID ensure that 1 ID = 81.000€

>> No.54209675

>>54204628
2 years after $2
>it will go back to 2c

>> No.54210171
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54210171

Crypto Oracle failed because he never understood the god protocol, the missing piece wasn't data encryption & security, it was user Identity.

"There is a very large universe of usecases looking to be connected to front ends that can prove who somebody is." - Sergey Nazarov

Chainlink is the Universe of usecases.
Everest is the frontend that can prove who somebody is.

1 Link = 1 ID

Oracle exploits will destroy your Smart Contract via nuclear sized explosion.
Sybil exploits will destroy your Smart Contract via death by a million cuts.

User Identity needed.
Smart Contract commerce will never be more than the shitcoin casino we've seen the last few years otherwise.

>> No.54210277

The problem with namefags, avatar fags etc is they start to think they are more important than they ever were. Then act like it.

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>>54210171
no bob pasta. cope out of charts.

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>>54209501
Yes in fact I am making that assertion, because the sheer tokenomics of Everest alone guarantees that one day 1 LINK = 1 ID. There are only 800,000,000 ID tokens which will be systematically burned by usage of features on the Everest platform, i.e. regulatory compliant KYCing. Not to mention every single institution in crypto and the legacy world wanting to onboard into DeFi will be forced to stake 250,000 tokens if they want full access to the features of Everest. It is not only well within the realms of possibility that 1 LINK = 1 ID given these tokenomics compared to Chainlink’s 1,000,000,000 model - it is an eventual guarantee. By the will of Kek and the All Father, this manifestation is destined to take place. Even if it takes Chainlink dumping further.

>> No.54210532

>>54208667
>>54208801
nice one guys. way to answer the question

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54210605

glad to see you back CLT. it is happening

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54210660

>>54210422
>talks about LINK dumping
>shills Everest
Glad I never listened to you faggots..

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54210716

>>54210660
>dumping in a bear market = coin bad
Brainlet

>> No.54210992

>>54210716
So you care about LINK price action but not Everest?

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>>54210992
Short term price action does not matter to me for LINK because it's never gonna go below my entry. Everest PA I don't care about right now because MiCA and US regulations are not in place yet.

>> No.54211086

>>54204953
>we're not brainless cheerleaders we're useless to them
Retail not needed. This includes dancing monkeys. Imagine thinking they care about your cheering

>> No.54211187

>>54207185
>the fact anons still aren't grasping this is probably partly Sirgay's fault for not articulating this enough.
See
>>54205664

>> No.54211191

>>54203564
BAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

>duuuuuuuuuuuude its le HECKIN elite genius dangerous autist and his scary assassination contracts
>in reality hes a fucking WIMP who fell for a made up health care scam

Takes deep breath….aaaaaaaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA holy SHIT it just keeps getting better. You guys larped as him being dangerous lmao I could snap that pussy ass twig in half with one arm. Im dying this is too good

>> No.54211236

>>54211082
>MiCA and US regulations are not in place yet.
MiCA vote is next month.

>> No.54211321

>>54211236
There will be an 18 month grace period starting from the time the law is published, which should happen in May roughly a month after they ratify it. Once that happens the US is probably going to just copy MiCA, if you've been watching the news there is already pressure building for them to do exactly that.

>> No.54211326

>>54205111
>duuuuuuuuuude the charts said two moar yearzzzzzz
>hodl marinesthhhhh


Hahahahahahahahahahhahahaahahahahahahahahahahaa. A cuckold and his money are soon parted

>> No.54211502

Fuck Chainshit.
I defended them during the bullrun while it was underperfoming because I thought they genuinely had a plan and working product.
They have fuck all, and now the paid shills are crawling around /biz/ desperately trying to drum up positive sentiment.

Eat shit and die Chainshit shills, nobody cares anymore, not even /biz/.
Make the price go up or fuck off, my money will be getting spent on crypto that can actually pump in the next bullrun, not your dead and mismanaged altcoin.

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>>54203533

>> No.54211545

>>54205111
ETH also never reached its BTC ATH again

>> No.54211601

Love seeing people finally come to terms with reality regarding chainlink. The spotify podcast really revealed a lot of worrying things. Threads now consist of 80% fed up link holders and 20% cultists/paid shills who can only scream ''bulgarian fudder'' or ''go back''.. It's just objectively true that LINK has been absolute garbage since 2020. Inb4 7 trillion enabled dude. Yea and LINK/BTC and LINK/ETH have dumped back to 2019 levels. Meaning ZERO value has accrued to the link token.

>yea but it takes time

Clearly but Sergey also basically admitted they have no real plan on what they are doing on that spotify podcast. We are in for a rough ride the upcoming years.

>> No.54211755

>>54210716
So 86% and 98% are actually quite different in terms of how far down they are, 98% for link would put it at around a dollar 20, not even saying that can't happen, that's another 83% move down from here, though you can't really compare Everest to Link and claim they're the same because they both went down. I don't even know why I'm responding to this shitty Everest shilling anyways, but I am.

>> No.54211802

Everest is shit, Chainlink is shit and just the elite psyoping you into stay poor.
BTC is the only coin worthwhile.

>> No.54212107

>>54203564
>>54203639
>>54203653
>>54207274
>>54211191

Dumbfucks… Juels wasn’t wearing the mask cuz of muh covid. He was wearing that mask to signal to whoever stands in his (Chainlink’’s) way that he is backed by WEF.

>> No.54212139

>>54211321
>>54211082
>>54210716
>>54210422
Please go shit in a street. You everest pajeets are insufferable with your low volume shitcoin.

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>>54212139

>> No.54212349

>>54211755
Name another source of Human & Unique Identity presently available on Chainlink. You can't, no others exist.

>> No.54212357

>>54208516
Anon, how do you think your piece of shit token will be worth something? By making it happen.

>> No.54212631

>>54203533
what is his birthday

>> No.54212787

>>54205263
If they want to shake retards out why in the FUCK would they lower the price so more retards WILL buy in?

>> No.54212817

>>54212787
its just chainniggers cope, anon. Racists got dumped on, simple as

>> No.54212899

>>54212107
buy a fucking ad bud Ari was memering Bane

>> No.54212987

>>54211601
Love that all this FUD has not impacted the price in the slightest and we are still directly in line with previous historical dumps and pumps in the crypto cycle. PTXXW

>> No.54213002

every poster itt is a shill agent, there is nothing organic about this astroturfed conversation posing as "community chat"

>> No.54213088

>>54213002
Buy a fucking ad holy fuck

>> No.54213850

>>54209441
based manifestation