What’s the next American city to boom?

[Anonymous No.53813172]

I want to get in early. We have
>Austin
>Phoenix
>Seattle
>Tampa
>Miami
and they’re all out of reach. Where can I plant myself now to cash in on gains when prices go up?

[Anonymous No.53813187]

>>53813172
south palestine or what :D

[Anonymous No.53813197]

Not American but I heard states like Montana are starting to get refugees from Cali etc

[Anonymous No.53813198]

>>53813172
there are no more. Tech and boomers destroyed those cities now all the young hip people are too poor to live anywhere cool

[Anonymous No.53813214]

>>53813172
Chatanooga

[Anonymous No.53813236]

>>53813172
San Antonio
Buy guns, shoot the transplants aka yourself

[Anonymous No.53813252]

>>53813172
the outskirts or surrounding cities of any of them. especially if a small surrounding city also has a port.

[Anonymous No.53813276]

>>53813172
start looking at Ohio, no hints but that’s going to be the largest growth of middle class whites in the nation

[Anonymous No.53813300]

>no hurricanes
>no earthquakes
>no tornadoes
>climate is getting warmer every year
>will never run out of water (re: arizona)
>housing is still fairly affordable(re: nyc, california)
>extremely diverse economy not susceptible to bubbles (re: tech hubs)
>at least five >billion-dollar development projects going on RIGHT NOW

and this is where it gets interesting:
>poor black and hispanic residents leaving the city in droves
>wealthy, young white residents have stemmed that exodus (re: much higher-quality residents) with billions being pumped into downtown
>city still down 1 MILLION people from it's peak, and has literal acres of urban, transit-connected vacant land ready for construction

Any guesses? It's Chicago. Crime is the last hurdle we need to jump to start hyper growth. And we're about to elect a pro-police mayor and get our crazy mayor out of office. everyone, even the most progressive residents hate her. And the election is in 6 days.

Screencap this post and come back in 5-10 years. I may be early, but I am not wrong.

[Anonymous No.53813387]

>>53813197
Montana is already expensive in the desirable areas, only the richest Califags can afford to buy. If you bought in 2018 or before that faggot TV show came out, then you'd be early.

[Anonymous No.53813406]

>>53813197
I’ve heard this too. Seems like it’s already happened

>>53813198
I doubt that, gotta be somewhere

>>53813214
This is interesting. Tell me more

>>53813236
No fuck you

>>53813276
Even with East Palestine? Where specifically?

>>53813300
Good argument but I don’t see it. Crime and cold and high taxes

[Anonymous No.53813408]

>>53813172
Lagos

[Anonymous No.53813425]

>>53813172
Nashville

[Anonymous No.53813440]

>>53813406

East Palestine is a random rotting hick town on the border of Pennsylvania lol

[Anonymous No.53813465]

>>53813440
You still haven't answered his question and I'd imagine you have similar arguments to mine. Why ohio?

[Anonymous No.53813617]

>>53813465
I think it has to do with climate change, many industrial engineers have made the claim about the rust belt being the area all will migrate too.

[Anonymous No.53813774]

>>53813406
East Palestine doesn’t mean anything, it’s bumfuck nowhere. If you need to be spoon fed, the major cities in Ohio are going through a gentrification tidal wave along with consistent and steady white growth ensuring sweet gains on any property bought. The coasts are played out, the Midwest will boom.

[Anonymous No.53813872]

>>53813300
>poor black and hispanic residents leaving the city in droves
>Chicago

[Anonymous No.53813889]

>>53813172
Rockford, Illinois guarateed cheap
>>53813425
Already full of CA plates

[Anonymous No.53813919]

>>53813300
Yeah it's pretty wild. The problems here are so deeply-engrained but the amount of potential is insane. The sad part is that where all the black folks moving out to is literally the area outside the city where I come from. As a youngin I saw relatively balanced diversity as a kind of strength, and didn't see the world in such tribalistic law-of-the-jungle terms. But it's sad to see that generally people don't just hum along in balance and harmony, my people really are abandoning this place. But if I can get a decent foot into one of the places where white population is increasing, retake some place where my family came from (at the loss of the place where I personally came from). Well. Sad, but it's a life.
I'm stacking cash to make a play when the opportunity comes along. All hypothetical at the moment. "Saving for when the housing market crashes" has always been a meme but it's even more of a meme in Chicago. Midwest is a very conservative market for better and worse. Means we are not primed for the same double-digit constrictions that more speculative coastal markets face. Still gas left in the tank and not as far to fall, if we really fall at all. People chide Vallas for giving "Cops on the CTA" as an answer to every question. But if people can travel in safety, this whole powderkeg explodes.

[Anonymous No.53814089]

>>53813872
retard. look it up. he's actually not 100% correct but middle-class hispanics are eating blacks' lunch. Chinese are buying up White neighborhoods, Whites are buying up Latinos', Latinos' are buying up Blacks', and Blacks are moving to the suburbs. Historical black population centers are losing population like nucking futso. Ghost-towns. Bronzeville is the only exception, where middle-class professional Blacks are booting out poor blacks, because it's too well-located to remain impoverished but too black for white people to ever feel comfortable. Whites do not gentrify black neighborhoods here. They gentrify hispanics out of their homes and then THEY gentrify black neighborhoods. Very interesting racial dynamics. Whites' investment has made many Mexicans rich, but encroaches on their clay. They quietly seethe but don't outright revolt because they continue to profit. Blacks have an atavistic hatred of Whites but they basically do not overlap with each other at all, so there is relatively little conflict. Latinos are eating Blacks' lunch though and they know it, plus they are often very close together. Lads lord white money over blacks. 2020 census and resulting power-shift shows this clearly.

[Anonymous No.53814386]

>>53813872
Yes, it's already happening. Note the change in population by ward.

>>53813919
>People chide Vallas for giving "Cops on the CTA" as an answer to every question. But if people can travel in safety, this whole powderkeg explodes.
Right, the city has a perception problem as well. Given you live here, you know full well the "safe" neighborhoods are just as good as anywhere else in the country, and that crime is generally sequestered to a few wards on the south and west sides. My family in Florida thinks I live in constant fear of robbery/murder (I live in lakeview). We obviously know that is not the case.

The neighborhoods where the crime propagates are emptying, quickly, and rightfully so. Once that perception of safety is lifted and we see CPD numbers growing again, all bets are off.

That's not even to mention externalities like climate change and affordability pushing people out of other metros. It's going to be our time soon.

[Anonymous No.53814403]

>>53814089
>Blacks are moving to the suburbs
Census data shows they're actually moving south. no longer our problem, lol

>Chinese are buying up White neighborhoods
Yep. See: bridgeport

[Anonymous No.53814438]

>>53813172
>>Austin
faggots
>>Phoenix
spics
>>Seattle
giga faggots
>>Tampa
spics
>>Miami
spics and niggers

[Anonymous No.53814520]

>>53814438
Go move to bum fuck Alabama then you fucking chud. Got I hate /pol/ migrants so much it's unreal

[Anonymous No.53814574]

>>53814520
Or any wealthy white neighborhood in literally any city in the US, but doubt he can afford it.

[Anonymous No.53814653]

>>53814089
>>53814386
https://abc7chicago.com/amp/chicago-shootings-this-weekend-today-police/12776383/

You are asking to get shot if you live in this city. Pants on head retarded to even consider it if you’re living elsewhere, and anyone already there is coping their balls off if they haven’t already hacked them away in a show of solidarity with the type of degenerate scum residing in that liberal shithole. You will ultimately get outbred by nigs and spics, it is simple demographics. Beyond that, every inch of progress you make in the next decade will be undone by your brainwashed children who will put up Section 8 housing in the heart of your nicest areas and repeat the exact cycle of the 60s and 70s to now. You cannot fucking win.
The changes required to actually make Chicago white again for longer than 5-10 years are extreme anons. They are macroscopic social changes that have been all but eradicated from our society in the past 70 years.

All this shit has already happened and is just going to repeat until you’re so demographically outnumbered that you have no choice to but to flee to the countryside and build your own cities. Just move to a fucking white suburban area and save yourself generational headaches instead of rolling the dice in CHICAGO like you have a deathwish

[Anonymous No.53814756]

>>53813172
New York. Last time we had a nigger mayor he got voted out and we ended up with two consecutive Republicans who oversaw one of the greatest economic booms in the city's history. These things move in cycles and it will happen again.

[Anonymous No.53814796]

>>53813889
I know glownigger anons have stated that Rockford (and Chicago) have something like 500 active serial killers

[Anonymous No.53814806]

>>53814653
Do you live here? Have you lived here recently? Have you ever lived here?

[Anonymous No.53814834]

>>53814653
Also, your article mentions north lawndale. No SHIT you're going to have an issue in LAWNDALE. Look at the demographics.

[Anonymous No.53814886]

>>53814574
i was born into and inherited two homes in white neighborhoods in nyc suburbs kek

[Anonymous No.53814887]

>>53814756
New York has a horrible problem of combined demographic and affordability. Nobody can afford to have families. There’s no future there.

[Anonymous No.53814919]

>>53814806
My wife is from Portage Park you dishonest kike. I’m there every year. Nigs everywhere downtown talking shit to you when you walk into the library. God forbid you want to go to a Bulls game. No clue wtf you guys are talking about desu, it’s fucked. Not saying it wasn’t a respectable city in its heyday but it’s 2023.
More importantly I’m from Atlanta and have seen exactly what’s gonna happen to you delusional fags. You literally cannot set foot in the places I grew up going to in Atl. The rich exclusive white areas are no fly zones now. Everyone with a brain moved north to Alpharetta and Roswell. The few remaining whites who think like you think get bullied 24/7 in their own communities and face massive city-wide pushback for simply asking for more police in their crime ridden neighborhoods. That is your future. It’s a numbers game.

[Anonymous No.53815052]

>>53814919
Eeesh Portage Park is getting better but still not all that nice. Definitely gentrifying fast though. The current market trend is that "next stop up the blue line" - first wicker, then bucktown, then logan square, now it's on to Avondale, and PP is next after that. Did you see that huge apartment going in at 6 corners?

I live/work/spend all of my time here on a daily basis; I can see what's changing in the city. We are in the VERY early stages of this, but that's when you're supposed to be accumulating. The writing's on the wall.

You'll see Austin/Phoenix/Seattle-level housing price growth if a few things occur:

Internal factors
>significant out-migration of black/hispanic locals (first of which is already occuring)
>MASSIVE cramp-down on crime (starts with getting lori out)
>a mayor/city council more receptive to growth (16 aldermen retiring this cycle helps this a lot since they have final say on any new projects in their ward)

External factors
>Water crisis really starts to hit the southwest (where many midwesterners live)
>Housing affordability reaches most if not all of the coastal cities
>businesses see the benefit of the relatively lower cost of talent here
>National media perception changes (will take much, much longer

We're in the VERY early stages and city-wide change is going to take a long time. It's definitely happening though.

[Anonymous No.53815061]

>>53814887
We need a mayor that will put the feral niggers in their place for companies to increase salaries.

[Anonymous No.53815079]

>>53814796
It's good for keeping the population down

[Anonymous No.53815109]

>>53815079
and housing

[Anonymous No.53815113]

It's the Midwest, namely the Great Lakes states
>Cheap land
>Good schools and flexibility for homeschooling
>Every year winter is less painful
>Abundant fresh water
Unfortunately this is becoming obvious so we're now going to get hit by increasing manmade disasters

[Anonymous No.53815163]

>>53813172
potentially Philadelphia if you can wait out the nigger gentrification. I have a house here and development is happening rapidly all around me. Luckily the nig nogs are priced out where I live and that will continue if I'm lucky

[Anonymous No.53815165]

>>53815052
Have you been to other countries? Ever been to Tokyo for example? Or the Netherlands?

[Anonymous No.53815205]

>>53814834
why does that look like a map of florida

[Anonymous No.53815212]

>>53815165
Yes, both actually. Homogenous, clean, dense, and with excellent transit.

No US city will ever be as homogenous to catch up to those cities. What we can be is segregated, and you can see this in most major cities. Just need to keep that up and continue to expand the "livable" area in cities like Chicago and New York to see change.

Unironically the only way to win is by pricing the undesirables out. Someone has to say it.

[Anonymous No.53817068]

>>53815205
Yeah it kinda does
>>53815163
Looks like that's exactly what the chicago anons are saying. Totally against the grain of general thought though which is saying everyone is moving south

[Anonymous No.53817142]

>>53813172
Tampa Bay. Stay away though, we're sick of you faggot yanks.

[Anonymous No.53817255]

>>53813300
Fellow Chicago-chads rise up!

I would like to mention a few other promising things for Chicago:
>best airports for a large city in America. O'Hare and Midway is fucking light years better than New York, Boston, Philly, La, San Francisco, Seattle and not even close.
>Power and gas is dirt cheap and oversized. Most data centers are here
>Massive amounts of fresh water and agricultural production
>Manufacturing is centrally located. 10hr truck drive makes over 65 million people available
>Lots of Polish and Lithuanian women here who are arguably the best looking women on earth. Still havent been corrupted by amerifat culture.
>Best restaurants in America. new york and la is trash.
>Diverse economy (really)
>Affordable downtown life (live in West Loop in a $1300/month studio that is all concrete so quiet and efficient to heat Cool.
>Only cold 2-3 months a year. Acts as a filter for homeless trash and tropical niggers. Thats a good thing.

[Anonymous No.53817976]

>>53817255
Very true about Polish and Lithuanians, I have almost exclusively dated Polish women in my life (at least in a serious way). It is my genuine dream to marry one. But they're all in the northwest suburbs, really, hardly any at all left in the city. I want one so bad, bros... But a $1300 studio, do you at least own it? Or just rent? I can't do a studio anymore. I'm locked a little bit in golden handcuffs. A very, very, very (Very!) cheap 1-bed in a good-part-of-town-that's-surrounded-by-bad-parts-of-town (you can probably guess where, but I won't confirm). It's an apartment building built in the 1870's with like, Silent Generation-era management so rent is completely out of whack with the current market. Basically stacking cash hoping to get a decent well-located condo as a rental property.

[Anonymous No.53818112]

>>53813300
>It's Chicago

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

I lived in Chicago for like a decade, fucking dogshit city. Horrible. I'd rather live in downtown San Fran with the junkies or on skid row in LA. Chicago is so fucking awful. Horrible weather, WORSE people, politicians that would make even the most docile Midwesterner want to strap a bomb to himself and [redacted]. It could've been an awesome city if you could go back 50 years to the 80's and change literally everything the politicians and Evanston-type insanely wealthy libs did to it.

I've always felt Chicago is the perfect example of the American liberal utopia. You have the poor, violent niggers on the southside killing each other, the retarded whites in the middle who think they're oh-so special and working class etc. just because they live adjacent to the niggers, the unpredictably violent spic gangs in Austin, then an ever-inching-northward WALL of shops/offices/etc. into the extreme wealth and student section of downtown, wicker park, river north etc. (white people and rich minorities) then you get into nomand's land and eventually the ELITE Democrat Donor's of The Northside, Evanston Wilmette etc. who fund the destruction playground of filth that you see below in the city.

and then you have the cuckolded "Republicans" in the suburbs who are braindead beyond belief and fail to do anything about Sodom & Gomorrah next door. What an absolute failure of a city

Chicago will never be "next" - it's already over. You're fucking delusional if you think it will change anything after being entrenched in corruption for over half a century

[Anonymous No.53818194]

>>53818112
I won't fully disagree with this, either. I'm making a life here regardless, but there are a few salient points made in this post. Not all. But some, surely.

[Anonymous No.53818255]

>>53817976
>A very, very, very (Very!) cheap 1-bed in a good-part-of-town-that's-surrounded-by-bad-parts-of-town (you can probably guess where, but I won't confirm).

Hyde park fasho

[Anonymous No.53818340]

>>53818255
Shhh.... I'll never tell...

But yeah Covid hit this place like a ton of bricks. Seriously like, the trump years were great here but it's one of the particular parts of town that REALLY got fucked up by the crime wave, in a similar way to post-2020 River North. Seems it's calmed down at least a little bit in the past couple months, maybe that's just my perception, but 2021-2022 it was legitimately harrowing to be here. I believe in the place as decent for long-term investment (the university isn't going anywhere) but watching it happen really changed the way I looked at the world. I'm a lot less.... Cotton-candy sunshine-lollipops about it all, now.

[Anonymous No.53818404]

>>53813172
America is in rapid decline, there will be no city booms.

[Anonymous No.53818440]

>>53818340
Yeah anything East of King Drive is probably a good investment long term. ESPECIALLY all of that practically greenfield development in bronzeville. You could practically create new neighborhoods and blocks out of thin air, and it’s kind of already happening around the Bronzeville lakefront project

[Anonymous No.53818595]

>>53818440
When I say that Chicago has major problems but *insane* potential, it's exactly that kind of thing I'm talking about. It's not like New York or San Francisco where geography and existing-density puts a hard limit on anything. Where you have things like Hudson Yards having to put a whole residential neighborhood on top of a railyard if you want to have a footprint anywhere. If you could somehow end a multi-generational gang violence problem (domestic terrorism, really) you'd unlock billions, hundreds of billions. I was looking at an infographic recently showing the number of existing buildings in each neighborhood by the decade of their construction, from 1870 to now. In-SANE to see the amount of neighborhoods that are predominately 100+ years old. Depending on the area, the big booms were from 1870-1890 or 1910-1930, and once the Great Depression hit there is basically no new construction of any quantity until the early 2000's, with a few isolated exceptions. Really put things into perspective about what a peculiar era we've lived through in this century so far.

[Anonymous No.53818804]

>>53813197
It should be legal to kill californians

[Anonymous No.53818812]

>>53814438
This country sucks

[Anonymous No.53818831]

>>53813172
those are ruined places. they are formerly beautiful areas that have been destroyed by foreigners. miami is a nigger only zone. disgusting. nuclear war will cure your mental illness

[Anonymous No.53819011]

>>53813172
>>53813172
Phoenix is bottomed out and bouncing back:
https://app.parcl.co/parcls/5826502

Miami is at a 52w low:
https://app.parcl.co/parcls/5826503

[Anonymous No.53819022]

>>53813172
Grand Junction
Fargo

[Anonymous No.53819042]

>>53813197

Californians literally destroy every state they migrate to, like a cancer.

[Anonymous No.53819054]

>>53813172
I'm really hoping Dallas becomes a huge hub for Finance.

[Anonymous No.53819073]

>>53813172
>>53813187
>>53813197
>>53813198
>>53813214
Northwest Arkansas. The walmart money has been flowing into here for years and things are very nice here. If I were you I'd move to Bentonville or Rogers. It is growing really fast and this area was rated as one of the best places to live in the whole country recently.

[Anonymous No.53819079]

>>53813172
Raleigh. RTP more generally.
None hold a candle
Top 5 pre covid were
Raleigh
Dallas Fort Worth
Colorado Springs
Pheonix
Tampa

[Anonymous No.53819096]

>>53813197
RIP my get away state.

[Anonymous No.53819135]

>>53813300
Really the upper midwest / great lakes region is probably going to fare pretty well in the coming decades
>sheltered from the worst impacts of climate change
>no threatening geological activity
>abundant water
>low cost of living
>still majority white (for now)

[Anonymous No.53819153]

>>53819073
Fuck. Why'd you tell them about NWA? There's already too many people here.

[Anonymous No.53819204]

>>53819079
I think RTP is a very safe bet. Might move there myself

[Anonymous No.53819239]

>>53819153
You in fayetteville? I'm at uark

[Anonymous No.53819286]

>>53819239
I've lived in both Rogers and Fayetteville.

[Anonymous No.53819342]

>>53819153
This. Imagine Pajeets get wind of this, and start to think that they're Dixie Southerners now.

[Anonymous No.53819373]

>>53819342
They already know. Not many of them, but they're present.

[Anonymous No.53819515]

>>53819286
I bet you're brown

[Anonymous No.53819524]

>>53813300
Based. That's my choice too. I visited this past winter and was surprised how clean it was compared to LA or NYC. It's still diverse and has all the positives of a major international city except the weather but I suspect that that may not be a big factor for those who will be looking to leave other areas of the US unless you live in the west.

[Anonymous No.53819527]

>>53813300
If I was gonna move anywhere else it would be Chicago.

>>53819073
>>53819153
Northwest Arkansas is pretty nice, seems kinda boring though.

I'm in Kansas City and the city leaders here and others it seems have been trying hard to make this city "booming" for the last 15 years or so. Only recently after Chiefs won the superbowl does it seem like it might happen. But in my opinion the city already "boomed" over that time. 20 years ago KC was a real dump, especially the downtown. Slowly but surely it's become a decent place and not deserted (downtown STL still deserted by comparison).

The problem is that all the aspects of KC that made it a great place 10 years ago make it less desirable now. It was never the coolest or most interesting city, or even close, but it was super affordable and cheap. In 2013 my friend I rented a 2 bedroom apartment with a backyard a mile from downtown and paid $650 total.

Now it's hard to find a 1 bedroom apartment for anything less than 800, and most in the 700-800 range are dog-shit tier. 900+ seems to be bare minimum you have to spend for a decent 1 bedroom apartment which is absolutely fucking bonkers expensive. Back in 2010 my friend got his first apartment after high school and paid $505 per month. He was so infuriated when they raised his rent to 515 a month that he moved to a downtown loft and paid just 500 (this was when they were still revitalizing the city before it was totally hip). Now that loft is over 800 a month even though it's classified as "low income housing". I just don't really see why this city would "boom" from here. Crime is a significant problem, even though it's mostly black on black, it's still there. You can't live in the city (not suburbs) and avoid hearing gunshots multiple times a week. The public transit is shit here, but they're still doing what they can to remove parking spots and start ticketing people more. The music scene has gotten way worse since mid-2010s, few good venues here.

[Anonymous No.53819546]

>>53813300
>>53819527
Tbh if I was gonna move out of KC at this point in my life I'd probably choose Chicago. Anywhere on the coasts is outside my price range, and despite knowing tons of people in Denver/Colorado it just doesn't appeal to me, especially since weed is legal in Missouri and Illinois too now. It's basically just suburbs and mountains: the state.

The cool thing about Chicago is that the apartment prices aren't that much higher than KC, but you get a lot more. I can probably get a 1 bedroom apartment on the north side of Chicago for like 1100 or 1200 a month. Still retardedly expensive rent, but when you consider what you get for it living in Chicago, it kind of makes sense, way more sense than 900+ in Kansas City that's for sure

[Anonymous No.53819559]

>>53819527
>Northwest Arkansas is pretty nice, seems kinda boring though.

[Anonymous No.53819607]

>>53815052
Just ignore the ultra high taxes and unfunded pensions, kek

[Anonymous No.53819803]

>>53819135
Climate change is a hoax tho.

Besides islands in the pacific getting smaller/disappearing (they’re not and they haven’t) how is “climate change” is the warming of the planet a bad thing? Think of all the arable land emerging out of the tundra we’ll be able to farm if the ice caps disappear. Fucking midwit.

[Anonymous No.53819805]

>>53819515
Nope. I am quite British.

[Anonymous No.53819810]

>>53819559
I unironically do enjoy the hustle and bustle of the big city. It's nice when your city has good roads and you can live in the quiet suburbs but drive 10 minutes and be in the hustle and bustle. NWA seems cool but I couldn't imagine moving there unless I already had a wife. Maybe I could snag a college babe in Fayetteville but I wouldn't count on it.

[Anonymous No.53819908]

>>53813172
I’d say one of the cities that is getting a new microchip factory, don’t remember how many there are (maybe 5-10 cities) but it’s probably a safe bet.

[Anonymous No.53819984]

>>53813172
Pumpkin town Carolina

[Anonymous No.53819990]

>>53819546
>I can probably get a 1 bedroom apartment on the north side of Chicago for like 1100 or 1200 a month
Have you looked recently? Because I'm gonna say "Horse fucking Shit". You could get a 1br in North Lawndale for that. Maybe a few years ago. But that is a wildly outdated statement, and if you do find prices like that it'll be like, west rogers' park. I work in residential real estate, and I've been looking for something like what you've described and I simply cannot find it.

[Anonymous No.53820066]

>>53819990
>that it'll be like, west rogers' park

wait, is rogers park bad? I hung out there a few times in college a little over a decade ago and it seemed like a cool part of town with lots of hipsters and chill people. This was closer to the lake though

[Anonymous No.53820137]

>>53820066
No, actually. A lot of my friends live there and for the most part (especially in the east towards the lake) it is a cool place with that vibe and decent housing prices.

But it's literally the northern border of the city and priced as such. Getting downtown or, God forbid, anywhere inland at all, is a headache and a half. I'd probably be there if I didn't have a good setup somewhere else for literally-half-off-market-rent. My point was to say that if you WERE to get a place for that much (and there are really, very little left, similar to the way you described the 700-800 range in KC, where there aren't many and what there is is often dogshit) it would be either in a hellhole on the west side, or a mildly decent place that's just so far north you're almost literally in the suburbs. Although, honestly Evanston is really nice. You could do worse.

But when you say "1100-1200 for a one bedroom on the north side", 1100 is out of the question entirely and wherever you find 1200 is going to be far from the lake and barely within city limits. Those are studio prices in B-tier neighborhoods, you're not living in Lincoln Park or Lakeview for anything close to that.

[Anonymous No.53820174]

>>53820137
I guess what I'm saying is you're not delusional but your perception of Chicago CoL is severely out of date. These are still modest compared to NYC or Washington DC but it's pretty fucked. I honestly don't know how people do it. Well, they live with a bunch of roommates is how they do it. But even then, each of them is paying 700-800. I miss my years when Pilsen was cheap.

[Anonymous No.53820195]

>>53813300
Very imaginative mind you have

[Anonymous No.53820589]

>>53820137
>>53820174
that's a shame, but it makes sense. Even then though, I'm surprised prices haven't gone up more in Chicago. Those are basically what Las Vegas prices were 4 years ago

[Anonymous No.53821060]

>>53819803
>climate change is a hoax
>climate change is making the tundra tropical

Dumbass.

[Anonymous No.53821083]

>>53821060
Watching doublethink in real time is a trip, no?

[Anonymous No.53821227]

>>53813172
I have lived in or around Seattle for 30 years and I want to be clear that Seattle is not about to be the next big thing. This city is pretty fucked. The tech bro thing honestly did fuck up the real estate market. And the Chinese “investors.” A 1 bedroom in the city is average 2,700 a month. We are severely limited by geography so we are currently debating whether building single family homes should be legal within a certain radius. Fentanyl is just the bees knees up here. After 2020 hundreds of cops quit. The east precinct was a bullshit shakedown gang anyways. We were a magnet for homeless people from all over the Midwest and south because in the early 2000’s we tried giving a shit about people which was really great for a while. It initially reduced homelessness and crime but as soon as the rest of the useless population heard, our services have been overwhelmed with fuckers from Utah and Wyoming who need an apartment to make meth in and food stamps to sell. We have about 13,000 homeless just in the city limits and I can confidently say that they are all on drugs and choosing to stay homeless because if they wanted to be anything else, they have access to dozens of services to get them anything they would need in order to hold a job. Our government and city council just voted to throw more money at it and create even more shelter housing, which is going to attract even more people.

[Anonymous No.53821236]

>>53813172
The food can be great though, however none of it is actually local because Puget sound is too toxic to eat anything out of. Fun fact if you happen to be a junky and need a good fix, eating the muscles and barnacles off of city docks is a viable option because all of our shellfish in Elliott bay have toxic levels of opioids in them because our sewage system literally can’t filter them all out before waste water hits the sound. right now the city is struggling to make money because all of the businesses realized it’s more profitable to work remotely. Especially tech work. Amazon is trying to force people back to work seeing as they are under s ton of pressure by the city after buying up damn near everything in south lake union and then abandoning it. Tons of shootings and hookers up north. Ferry’s breaking down so service is s joke. Transport becoming increasingly privatized leading to higher prices and worse service. We have so many Indian people that we literally had to legally ban caste discrimination. So many ignorant fucking Indian tech bros that would treat everyone around them like shit, but my god I have never seen such over the top pseudo aristocratic arrogance as anything from light skinned to dark skinned Indians. Unless to own a narcan distribution facility I don’t know what you would invest in here. Real estate is wobbling and companies, including Boeing, are stagnant. Oh also the water levels are rising so houses on the water and some low lying roads are getting washed out. Oh and droughts and wildfires are getting worse. Almost forgot the murder hornets that may or may not be endemic now.

Personally I’m thinking somewhere in the north east of the country is going to be the only viable option in 20 years. West New York. Vermont.
>>53821227

[Anonymous No.53823074]

[Anonymous No.53823323]

>>53813172
>>53813406
>>53814653
>>53817976
>>53819022
>>53819559
>>53821060
>>53823074
HUNTINGTON PARK, CALIFORNIA

HAWAIIAN GARDENS, CALIFORNIA

SAN BERNARDINO, CALIFORNIA

LYNWOOD, CALIFORNIA

[Anonymous No.53823343]

>>53813172
Seattle is dying out.

[Anonymous No.53823358]

>>53813172
Detroit, its the dead memecoin of cities

[Anonymous No.53823369]

>>53813300
Chicago has no economic future. It's the next Detroit.

[Anonymous No.53823383]

>>53818404
True.

[Anonymous No.53823396]

>>53818112
Chicago has like 70% Non white population

[Anonymous No.53823417]

>>53819073
Yeah it's truly early for nwa. It's definitely begun though and it won't be boring for long. It's already got tons of rivers and lakes and hills and forests to do every outdoor activity you could ever want. Look up eureka springs Arkansas. It's a very unique town surrounded by nature. It's not going to ever be a Los Angeles or Phoenix or anything but as an investment, I would put my money here.

[Anonymous No.53823898]

UP cities, Maybe GreenBay, Superior/Duluth, other opportunities in the forgotten north shaking off the rust in the rust belt

[Anonymous No.53823958]

>>53813172
who gives a shit i just want to move to midwest, watch minor league baseball on a warm summer evening, chug a few coors, get a high school prom queen wife and live the american dream yes I am a seeting europoor.

[Anonymous No.53824101]

>>53819204
It already ruined by faggots moving there from other states

[Anonymous No.53824235]

>>53813197
used to live there in 2012 -2015
Montana was always expensive with now jobs. good luck now. its gotten worse.

[Anonymous No.53826358]

>>53815163
Yea that fishtown and Kensington area is gonna look real different in like 10 years. The reputation from the past I feel like will always be there though

[Anonymous No.53826472]

>>53813300
lived in Chicago for over a decade. moved out shortly before COVID and have visited a couple times since. the reason we moved is because the city was deteriorating at a noticeable rate and that trend only seemed to be continuing on subsequent visits.

[Anonymous No.53826926]

>>53823958
Move to the south and watch college football in the autumn, much more kino vibe

[Anonymous No.53826978]

>>53813172
Tulsa

[Anonymous No.53827369]

>>53817255
Agreed. The city turned the corner, back on the way up. I was worried a year ago.
https://www.illinoispolicy.org/chicago-vote-by-mail-applications-close-feb-23/

All we really need is a China-style facial surveillance system in 8 neighborhoods and Chicago fucking wins. The residents will support this.

I spend a fair amount of time in NY LA/SF- the West Loop has the be the greatest neighborhood in the US at moment. Fucking incredible food and drinks.

I spend my crypto gainz at the mutherfuckin AVIARY.

[Anonymous No.53827449]

>>53813172
any state that hasn't been migrated by califags is decent.

[Anonymous No.53827542]

>>53817255
Forgot to add...
>low pretension/smug asshole level for a major city
>best urban summers in the world (w/ Paris)

[Anonymous No.53828833]

>>53819803
Idk it's working out well for me, this winter has been easy as hell

[Anonymous No.53828861]

>>53823369
in what way? It's literally has the most diverse economy of any city in the US. Detroit fell because it was an auto manufacturing hub susceptible to bubbles, no dissimilar to San Francisco or Austin today.

>>53823396
That's starting to change. Also, the suburbs are 85+% white

[Anonymous No.53828897]

>>53826926
This is the one thing I miss about living in the south. At least in Chicago every major cfb team has it's own designated bar, but it's not the same as gameday. It's so fucking fun man.

>>53827369
>I spend a fair amount of time in NY LA/SF- the West Loop has the be the greatest neighborhood in the US at moment. Fucking incredible food and drinks.
I fuckin love west loop. What's happened there is going to spread down the greenline too, especially with the new Damen station going in (eventually). Why the parking lots around United Center haven't been bought up yet is beyond me.

I'll be at feds friday lmao

[Anonymous No.53828912]

>>53827542
True. but putting
>low pretension/smug asshole level for a major city
and the playpen in the same post doesn't exactly support your argument lol. I do agree with you though, much more laid back than a NYC or LA.

[Anonymous No.53828929]

>>53813172
Fuck off and die, nobody wants you, parasite.
Eat the bugs and drink the refined shit water and die slowly and painfully.
WE DON'T WANT YOU.
WE WILL BURN DOWN WHATEVER HOME YOU BUY, WITH YOU INSIDE IT.
YOU WILL DIE AND IT WILL HURT AND YOU WILL DDEESSEERRVVEE IT.
STAY IN YOUR SHITHOLE.
DO NOT COME HERE.
WE CAN SMELL THE WORTHLESSNESS ON YOU.

[Anonymous No.53829158]

>>53813172
Somewhere out in VA within driving distance of Loudoun County. Super cheap there and they give massive tax incentives to businesses, they are peripheral to dc and they have built up infrastructure to house massive amounts of data farms. Everyone is moving their headquarters to Arlington. Amazon, Microsoft, google, boeing, lockheed, plus nearby in frederick, and bethesda md is where all these biotech firms are set up. They are all building and will import tons of employees. I've been working down in Arlington and for the past 5 years it's been nonstop building of high rise Apts and small suburb houses are still upwards of 1MM a pop

>t commercial construction insider from DC

[Anonymous No.53829218]

>>53813197
>starting

The takeover of Western Montana has already been completed. Bozeman is 644k for a house. Missoula 508k.

[Anonymous No.53829449]

>>53815113
I want to agree but people only move for financial reasons and the Midwest does not offer high paying jobs.

You need to see gentrification happening and that only happens when the white areas become so unaffordable that white workers start looking at non-white areas to save on rent. The Midwest is still full of affordable white areas, so there's no incentive to fix up the nigger filled parts.

[Anonymous No.53829515]

>>53823074
Detroit is fascinating. Down to 630k. They might have hit rock bottom. 300k niggers have left the city in 20 years and the city bulldozes their homes so they don't come back.

Non-Hispanic White actually increased the past 10 years, although that's probably muzzies.

[Anonymous No.53829555]

>>53813172
Tucson prices doubled like lots of cities. Homeless population has quadrupled in the same time. Fentanyl pills cost One Dollah fresh over the border.

[Anonymous No.53829578]

>>53828929
Hahahah he thinks OP actually wants to live in the US

[Anonymous No.53829720]

>>53827369
I would sleep on the sidewalk in the South Bronx and eat pork rinds with feral niggers around a burning oil drum before I would live in China-style anything.

[Anonymous No.53829724]

>>53813889
Lol, i used to live in rockford 06 to like 09.
Shithole is an undererstatment. People from rockford vacation in gary.
>>53813172
Madison Wi is blowing up. It's still relatively cheap, but i think it will be the midwests austin in 20 years. Trendy college town. Mostly white highly educated, housing crunch, growing fast.

[Anonymous No.53829729]

>>53813172
Tijuana

[Anonymous No.53829817]

Chicago bros, I might be moving there due to my gf getting into medschool. I’d ideally like to buy a place since I’ll be there for atleast 4 years. Is it possible to get a 2bd in a decent or ip and coming neighborhood for ideally $300k without insane HOA fees? I might be able to go up to $500k if it was worth it.

[Anonymous No.53830305]

>>53829449
>You need to see gentrification happening
Microcosm of the midwest as a whole, but it's at least happening in Chicago.

Bronzeville is a good example of this - you can see the development in real time if you go through Streetview imagery. They're basically starting from scratch as this whole area was bulldozed during urban renewal. The area looks bombed out in many places, so developers get a literal clean slate to gentrify these neighborhoods. And they're not even displacing anyone because no one lived here in the first place.

[Anonymous No.53830335]

>>53829817
Which med school? Assuming either Northwestern or Rush (I think there's a university connected to rush, not sure).

You're going to have to be out in the neighborhoods as opposed to downtown, but definitely possible.

Here's a pretty good one. Right off the Paulina brown line stop (25-30 mins to downtown by train), walking distance to a gym, grocery store, and a few restaurants too. Definitely visit and check out a few neighborhoods before you make the move though.

[Anonymous No.53830358]

>>53830335
The DO school out of the city. My idea is that I'd buy a place in the city since apparently students end up working in the hospitals and living in the cities after the 2nd year.

[Anonymous No.53830371]

Little Rock Arkansas.

[Anonymous No.53830396]

>>53830358
Damn this would be an absolute hike. Maybe try south loop

[Anonymous No.53830450]

>>53830396
Yea it's an odd situation but I figure the investment in a place in the city would be worth it if its only 2 years. She could possible live near the school while I live in the city or I buy a place and rent it out for 2 years. I'm just tired of renting and Chicago would be the first place where I could actually afford to buy something.

[Anonymous No.53830506]

>>53813172
>what city will boom
none you urbanite scum. The industrial revolution is falling apart and no amount of javascript smart contracts will save it.

[Anonymous No.53830537]

>>53813300
>Chicago
>33% white
Lol, really though why would I want to move to be amongst White liberals? I would unironically rather be neighbors to Black Hebrew Israelites. They would probably hate me less.

[Anonymous No.53830560]

Dallas.

People will want to flee Austin and Houston pretty soon if they haven't already, and Dallas seems like the next spot they'll all flock to like a bunch of locusts and eventually destroy it.

I'd only swing trade, not stay in Dallas long term.

[Anonymous No.53830843]

>>53830358
>>53830450
Buying a place for two years? Don't do that. Also, if your primary focus is out in the Western suburbs, either live downtown-downtown or just out in the suburbs. I don't care for it myself but that's where the big... I don't know what you'd call this "movement" yet, but Naperville is basically its own metropolis now and the Western burbs is where all that who-needs-center-city development has been going on in Chicagoland. I haven't seen that phenomenon described but I've been noticing it for years, especially since Covid damaged many metros' central business and entertainment districts. Why would you buy a rinky dink below-grade apartment (50/50 whether sewage backs up and floods your home) in a place that would take you through two of the top-10 worst congestion zones in the country, when you could get a modest home in a reasonably affordable, safe, white suburb with transit access? (the Metra rules). Do Oak Park if you don't want to feel like you've gone complete Stepfordville, but your priorities are wrong.

[Anonymous No.53830962]

>>53830843
Appreciate the take. I don't know the area at all so I'm speculating on what the best move would be.

Though a place like this is pretty attractive: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2137-W-Grace-St-2-Chicago-IL-60618/63694823_zpid/

[Anonymous No.53830982]

>>53830843
and I'd be there for 4 years total, atleast.

[Anonymous No.53831052]

>>53830962
>https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2137-W-Grace-St-2-Chicago-IL-60618/63694823_zpid/
Damn that's actually really nice. North Center is probably the safest neighborhood in the city too. It's actually *lost* population recently not because people are leaving, but because 2/3-flats are being converted to single-family homes.

Keep property taxes in mind though. Second highest in the nation. Our income tax isn't insane (4.95%) but property/consumption tax is what'll get you.

[Anonymous No.53831056]

Pretty much every city and town in North Carolina (except for irredeemable shitholes like Fayetnam, but their gentrification is inevitable anyhow). It's ironic because NC used the be called the "Rip Van Winkle state" because literally nothing happened here, now it's the darling child of the south no contest, AKA what shithole Fallout 1-tier hellscapes like Texas and Florida pretend to be. Worth mentioning MrBeast (real name Jimmy Donaldson) is also from Raleigh.

[Anonymous No.53831088]

>>53830962
>>53830450
Also, you may find out you really love the city and decide to stay. Medical staff make excellent money here. If you're in tech/finance like most of this board you should easily be able to find a job as well.

In no other city in this country can you easily find a 6-figure job and live this cheaply, and add to that that in most neighborhoods you're looking in you can live without a car very easily.

[Anonymous No.53831097]

>>53831056
kek I used to be in a skype group of "growing youtubers" with jimmy in 2013. Wish I still had those chatlogs because he was a frequent n word user back in the day

[Anonymous No.53831107]

>>53828861
AI tech boom guarantees San Francisco's relevance for at least 10 years barring a massive unforeseen transformation, but their local government is such shit even Sam Altman is publicly complaining about it.

[Anonymous No.53831134]

>>53831107
SF has a very different crime problem than chicago and not in a good way. There's a LOT more property crime there and it's citywide, whereas we have a huge gang issue that is generally sequestered to 5 or 6 wards on the south/west side.

Neither is good, but at least ours is easier to clamp down on and hopefully that occurs in the next few years.

[Anonymous No.53831175]

>>53830982
That does make a bit more sense.
>>53830962
And suresure. I couldn't afford it, but the place does look nice. I'm just saying that if you want an investment property, buy an investment property, but if you need a home you gotta consider what living there looks like. It really is my perception that, ESPECIALLY post-covid, a lot of investment in Chicagoland has gone to making the city itself, if not obsolete, at least redundant. Schaumburg and Naperville angle to be their own draws, and there's been a real movement of young people (even among my own friends) who are "past" the return-to-the-city reverse-whiteflight movement of the 2010's. If I had that kind of budget and a serious relationship and a medium-longterm purpose in the area that doesn't tie me economically to the city proper, I'd probably feel similarly (and a lot of these people are medical workers, that I'm referring to). Sometimes I feel stuck in the city. I'm going my own way with my plays, but I would strongly consider the Western inner-ring suburbs for your situation. Some of the older ones like Oak Park and Forest Park still have an urban-ish feel to them (they even have CTA El stops) and the commuter-rail Metra is a great way to get into the city if you feel like it. Thing is that going from the north side to the western suburbs would be HORRIFIC, but you couldn't just live on the west side. For all the shit people talk about the south side, there actually are pockets of quiet-living hard-working people across large swaths of it. They're in "elegant decay" as places that were once luxurious crumble. The West side doesn't have that national profile but it is like the surface of the moon. It's like Hiroshima. It's BREATHTAKINGLY dilapidated. And way more violent. So better to do Berwyn, even.

[Anonymous No.53831296]

>>53831175
Yeah if he were here longer-term, I'd also consider the northwest suburbs along the UP-NW given the Arlington Park development (assuming it happens).

>there's been a real movement of young people (even among my own friends) who are "past" the return-to-the-city reverse-whiteflight movement of the 2010's
Interesting take. I haven't seen this same response; I'm 25 and most of my friends are planning to stay in the city much longer-term than say their parents would have (e.g. instead of just buying a starter condo here and then leaving for the burbs, starting with a condo, moving up to a duplex or multifamily, and staying in that long-term). Really just up to your preference IMO.

[Anonymous No.53831373]

>>53831296
I relate to that. And I'd hope to make my life in the city proper at least until child-rearing years. But my point is that it's not a foregone conclusion the way I think it used to be, where city = life and suburbs = dead. The Arlington Heights stadium deal is the perfect example of sizeable exurbs trying to distinguish themselves as attractions of their own. And on that note, big ups to Pritzker for telling the Bears to fuck off when they came holding the team ransom for taxpayer money.

[Anonymous No.53831389]

Alright anon, here’s a real tip. Mazatlan, Mexico. Frfr no kizzy.

[Anonymous No.53831441]

Gun to my head, I'd say either Madison or Nashville. That said, there isn't any American city that has the same draw that Austin had 10-20 years ago.

[Anonymous No.53831493]

>>53813172

look into St.Petersburg

[Anonymous No.53831524]

>>53831441
Surprised nobody in this thread has been saying Nashville. I have no connection there but it seemed a year or two ago everything was Nashville Nashville Nashville. People telling me that was the new gold-rush. I know their property prices exploded but that might not be the same thing.
>>53831493
St. Pete/Clearwater I do also hear as a hotspot, as far as "places I know nothing about" go. Seemed like a lot of the young folks my age who moved down to florida always went there.

[Anonymous No.53831546]

>>53813172
Philadelphia will be Manhattan prices soon, all the New yorkers are moving there. /Biz/ won't listen though

[Anonymous No.53831794]

>>53813300
>cold
>windy
>niggers
No. What’s the proof nigs are leaving in droves and why?

[Anonymous No.53831798]

>>53813172
Chicago

[Anonymous No.53831820]

>>53819527
There's a fuckton to do in NWA. You just have to look around harder.

[Anonymous No.53831823]

please stop coming to miami. i am so tired of fucking white people coming to miami. stay in texas and california or new york or whatever stop trying to gentrify my fucking city

[Anonymous No.53831963]

>>53817255
O'Hare is my least favorite airport. Looks and smells like ass.

[Anonymous No.53831985]

>>53813172
Hartfort - Connecticut. It's blooming with youth thanks to the recent politics for people in college and working under 30. Literally moved in last month and the first thing my neighbor did was come greet me and recommend me about buying the AI universe NFT pack kek. It's full of real investors

[Anonymous No.53832225]

>>53831794
Well, I think you answered that already.
>cold
>windy
>niggers

Regular people who live in crime-ridden neighborhoods want out. The neighborhoods with the most crime are largely black. No one wants to live around crime, thus, they leave. Picrel. Look at this next to a heatmap of crime and tell me if you see a correlation.

[Anonymous No.53832248]

>>53831373
>And on that note, big ups to Pritzker for telling the Bears to fuck off when they came holding the team ransom for taxpayer money.
Agreed. They can build one themselves.

Especially with all the land they have now - both a stadium and shopping district there can easily be self-sustaining. If I were to buy in the suburbs it'd be within walking distance from Arlington park. Hope they upzone the nearby areas too.

[Anonymous No.53832312]

>>53818340
Holy shit this wojak hits hard.

[Anonymous No.53832321]

>>53813172
Jax FL, low key

[Anonymous No.53832479]

>>53823323
>LYNWOOD, CALIFORNIA
lol. Can't speak for the other cities, but Lynwood is like mini-Compton.

[Anonymous No.53833279]

>>53813172
Phoenix

[Anonymous No.53834103]

>>53831963
>O'Hare is my least favorite airport. Looks and smells like ass.
It's also staffed by a shit tons of nigs that clearly hate you for being white

[Anonymous No.53834163]

>>53817255
I’m from Kenilworth