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HAHAGAHAHAGAGAHAHAGAHAHAHAHA

>> No.53804827
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>>53804807
NOOOOO HECKIN BASED WELDERS MAKE SIX FIGURES STARTING

>> No.53804843

>>53804807
I knew the tradie shilling was artificial as fuck. Who would want a broken body with this shit pay of course they astroturfed all this

>> No.53804847
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>>53804807
I know the solution! HIRE MORE FEMALE IN THE WORKFORCE BROS!

>> No.53804854
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What the fuck tradies? Is this real?

You’re telling me the average dude in the US with a basic full time job makes more than 90% of welders in the US? Why would /pol/ lie to me about the trades being so amazing?

>> No.53804861

>>53804854
Why do they shill trades so much HELLO

>> No.53804898

>>53804861
Because boomer logic think their era applies to all generation. very unwise people...

>> No.53804922

>>53804898
So who has been shilling college for the last 40 years?

>> No.53804923

In my area welders make less than an Amazon warehouse worker lmao

>> No.53804931

>>53804807
>be tradie
>take kratom
>take heroin
>die
Seems like a good life

>> No.53804939
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>>53804807
>be me
>local pickup and delivery truck driver
>make 24 an hour in a major U.S city
>tired of the bullshit
>deliver to some government building
>fat clerk just chilling in his comfy chair watching youtube videos about comic books
>realize that that guy is doing it right
I recently applied to an Electrician apprenticeship but if I don't get in i'm going back to school. What should I study for a comfy government job?

>> No.53804979

>>53804843
But this "meme" that has been posted multiple times daily is organic huh?

>> No.53804990

actual former tradefag here, started as an electrical helper at 19 right after high school, worked three years as an apprentice at a residential and commercial firm, got some training but mostly learned by seeking out people who actually want to mentor and teach, what they don't tell you is that nobody gives a fuck about legitimately training you, sometimes you are taught unsafe/poor skills and get hurt and there is no recourse, after i got some experience i was doing more advanced tasks and got offered a job at a train company as an inhouse sr apprentice, i did that for a year and quit to go to college because shit was dangerous, i was coming home everyday covered in dust, rust, and grease, also working with high voltage multi-source systems can be really dangerous when you are depending on druggies, assholes, and low IQ faggots to make sure the panel or equipment is properly electrically isolated, long story short i took some student loans and used my savings to get an electrical engineering degree from a state school, now i work as a corporate architect in an engineering firm making 140k and never have to use a multimeter

tldr trades will fuck you up because your life depends on retarded, drunk, or druggie coworkers

>> No.53805044

Do trades if you have connections or if you have no other choice. I had no other choice and eventually got a union job and made decent money.

>> No.53805061

>>53804807
Because this is supposed to be a side hustle to earn extra cash. But some lazy retards decide to make it their full job

>> No.53805101
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>>53804931
that is so unbelievably based and you don't understand it.

>> No.53805105

>90th percentile earns as much as 50th
But that's fucking terrible.

>> No.53805107

>>53804807
Welder is not a trade...
Its a small part of several trades like ironworkers, steel stud carpenter or steamfitters. Lots of welding is just factory work and pays dick. Half a step above fork truck licensee.
Also, the trades pay shit in the south, which throws off national averages by allot. A guy making 60$ on the check with good free benifets on top of it in chicago, philly or portland is making 18$ in texas with no retirement or health, maybe a crap 401k match if they are lucky.

>> No.53805171

>>53805107
Welder fabricator is a trade so is pipe welder-people think they will do 6 months of training and then make 30 dollars an hour.

>> No.53805173

>>53804807
Check out mean wage vs median wage
Mean salary is bloated due to a small number of ultra-high earners skewing the distribution. I thought biz was supposed to be able to do math, wtf guys

>> No.53805284

holy kek im literally a high school teacher in a rural 92% white town and I make 75k a year with 3 months of the year paid time off ahahahaha

>> No.53805380

>>53805173
It’s comparing median to median

>> No.53805508

>>53804843
>would want a broken body with this shit pay
The hillbillies on /pol/ are fully convinced that being as white trash and broke as possible is a virtue.

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>>53804807
>OK so I don't exactly make 150k a year but I do make $30/hr and if I work 80hr weeks that's 120k a year which is basically 150k if you round upwards

>> No.53805533

>>53804931
>im on step 2
>was joking about step 3 with a coworker about how our jobs would suck less with hard drugs
Its over

>> No.53805541

>>53804939

dude sitting in the chair definitely makes 20-25/hr if you're in a major city. that's the funny part. meanwhile ur busting your ass.

when i first got out of college i got a job 50k salary. i cannot imagine being a full grown man 5-10 yrs later making that same wage. it was basically JUST enough to live by myself comfortably. when i was high school over a decade ago i remember having a finance class where we listed out all typical expenses and a salary you'd need to pay for it. i remember it was 40k at the time, and again, that's one person. like 15 years ago...

>> No.53805550

>>53804807
What about trades like plumbing? or specialized welders?

>> No.53805580

>>53804827
Said no one ever.
Skilled specialized welders make good money.
Apprentice welders make warehouse wages.
It's the same with most trades.
You start with the basics. Getting sustainable wages for an efficiency. You move up to journeyman after 2 years of busting ass and learning. You apply to a new company making better wages (2 bed room apartment). Do that for 3 years. Still learning. You get trained in something that requires expert precision and has moderate hazard. Now you command a six figure salary. Or, you saved up and penny pinched for 5 years and start freelancing. Take on small contracts with a couple of Mexican helpers. Build report with companies. Hire Apprentice zoomer. Make them do the shit part and get paid to check their work.
No one says trade = instant upper middle class.

>> No.53805597

>retards in this thread thinking tradies don't make at least double than that in reality
good job paying your taxes, retards. i hope you love giving money to ukraine and israel and other shitholes

>> No.53805814

>>53804807
>wages
as if an independent contractor is going to ever pay themselves above the bare minimum on payroll. Yeah bro I just want to volunteer to give 30% of ALL that I make, just to FICA and workmans comp. The payroll wages for ICs look just the same as for the low IQ wagies stuck working for someone else's company - but the pay is often double the wage rate, when you factor in cash distributions.

>> No.53805881

>>53804854
What the fuck is a basic full time job?

>> No.53805908
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Trades is hell I'd rather go to jail 100% serious I'd never go back.

>> No.53805945

>>53805597
I made 60k for a while and that was just enough to make ends meet. New job bumped to 100k+ and so far my effective tax rate is about the same because now I max my 401k/hsa.

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>>53804854
yes it's real, but the tradies cope pretty hard lately anon.

>>53804922
College is fine as long as you get a real degree

>> No.53805976

>>53805284
I would much rather weld than be a teacher. Maybe you lucked out with a cush position, but so do a lot of welders. It comes down to what you like to do.

>> No.53805979

>>53804807
trades are ONLY good in a union which are highly competitive or like in the top 5% of businesses. Super meme

>> No.53807569

>>53804807
Aren't tradies experts at dodging taxes though

>> No.53807884

>>53804843
it's really funny - you can't believe anything you read anywhere anymore. then again if they increased wages for blue collar workers they would make inflation even worse because of their spending habits. white collars get paid more because they are retarded drones who put all their money in (((stocks))) and shit like that. the truly ascended do whatever the fuck they want.

>> No.53808287

>>53805597
>UHHH ACTUALLY THEY MAKE DOUBLE THE AMOUNT REPORTED BY THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS
>ME? WELL... NO, I DON'T MAKE DOUBLE.....
>BUT MY FRIEND'S SISTER'S SECOND COUSIN'S BROTHER'S GAY PUERTO RICAN BOYFRIEND MAKES $380K DOING UNDERWATER PIPE BRAZING IN THE BERING STRAIT AND HE ONLY WORKS EVERY OTHER THURSDAY IN THE WINTER MONTHS TRUST ME BRO OKAY.

>> No.53808345

>>53804979
This meme is no where near prevalent as the amount of e celebs and news organizations shilling trades

>> No.53808422

>>53804939
Based govbro is probably in a union that makes it literally impossible for him to get fired too.

>> No.53808488

>>53805550
You got to find a niche in any trade-being a general residential plumber or welder in a shop just means you are cattle.

>> No.53808499

>>53805284
School loans?

>> No.53808515

>>53808499
if they're federal loans and he's teaching for a public school he'll likely have them all forgiven (if they exist) within 10 years of payment via public service loan forgiveness.

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>>53808488
Residential shit in general is for spics.

>> No.53810751

>>53804979
>>53804843
Jews don't like competition, they want you as retarded slaves