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Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptocurrencies. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier to entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org



>Non KYC:
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me



Official Gui/Cli

IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

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P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe


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LOL @ you zero IQ infinite mint bug bagholders everything is mooning and you are below 160
I'm SO GLAD I didn't buy this shitcoin

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*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****

Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.

>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained

>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes

>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard

>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable

>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball

>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated

>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides

>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token

>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch

>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam


- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

>> No.53754861

How do you guys continue to hold this piece of shit?

How do you do it ??

>> No.53754874
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Never forget what this is ultimately all about.


>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!


>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)

>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing

Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Asur Market
>Chimera Market #
>Cloud Market #
>Dark Matter #
>Darkmoon #
>Mellow Market #
>Retro Market #
Onion links: https://pastebin.com/raw/Ttnew9Yb

Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Infinity Project

or a reputable clearnet service


>Poker Club: play no-limit Texas Hold'em in real time with 2-8 players over the safety of Tor with the privacy of Monero! No user account required.

>XMR Poker

>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund

>> No.53754875


not a moonboy

>> No.53754897
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>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.

>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!

>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.

>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.


The console is accessed via or the menu in Android.

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>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.


>> No.53754952

Member when everyone was outraged by haveno ui getting community funds and getting jack shit done?
Well look at farcraster.
2,7k XMR for something that only works on testnet and the moment they got last payment they peaced, no more activity.
Very cool.

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>LOL @ you zero IQ infinite mint bug bagholders everything is mooning and you are below 160
>I'm SO GLAD I didn't buy this shitcoin

Have fun with the dog memes, we'll be dwelling on all the cocaine that's currently being traded for this shitcoin.

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>How do you guys continue to hold this piece of shit?
>How do you do it ??

Higher IQ & superior foresight.

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Farcaster was supposed to be done by the end of 2021 lol.

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Reporting in
IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

>> No.53755246

This is the one thing Zcash does right, almost.
Monero appreciators should make an effort to on-board lots of african AMERICANS, not african africans. The former group is sacred and if they adopt Monero on a large scale, Monero becomes politically untouchable. Sure, for a time there would be attempts from the media to paint Monero as a tool of white oppression, but it would be in vain.

>> No.53755284

They really screwed up the colors

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>Alphabay dead
>entire dark web under siege for months
>US regulation suits coming for privacy coins and exchanges

We're in for a hell of a fight.

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>We're in for a hell of a fight.

Never felt comfier.

>> No.53755547

Me too, but It can go left very quickly.

If you're running your own node with forwarded p2p ports, mining and running a TOR relay/hidden service, you're doing more than most and are actively fighting back.

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/pol had a very good thread yesterday about Fabianism, CFR, the Roundtables, world government and elite shills. May be considered Monero relevant when thinking about the big picture nature of the enemy. >>>/pol/416441865

>> No.53755901 [DELETED] 

US government crackdown is just beginning. XMR will be pushed into obscurity in the coming months. Sell now while there are still markets you can sell.

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No. Go away

>> No.53756540

>Just ban monero bro
>Just ban cryptography bro
>Just ban heroin bro
>Just ban the buying/selling of used catalytic converters bro
>Just ban raw milk bro


Markets gonna market, anon

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Launched a new forum for the community: https://monero.house/post/4

Even has a /moneropol/ community for you guys where you can do anything, as long as I don't go to prison over it :)

>> No.53756910

>have to sign up and log in to recite slurs
Cannot be bothered

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>> No.53757361

monerochan sticker on my car - good or bad idea?

>> No.53757552
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Is localmonero + cash app still the best fiat on ramp that is also convenient?

>> No.53757623

that's beautiful

>> No.53757834

5 years ago i had over 1000 xmr. today i have less than 10 and an unconquerable opiate addiction. checking myself into rehab tomorrow morning. monero did this to me. privacy is evil

>> No.53757872

Maybe until when/if the big crackdown is in full swing. But given recognition software and "AI" maybe it's best to have as little trace of having Monero as possible.

>> No.53758084

nice, simple but it should work. I sent a registration tx.

>> No.53758160

if you are the guy with the 4 letter username, is it possible that you might have sent the wrong thing as transaction ID?

>> No.53758239

Nevermind, it just showed up. I wonder why it took so long.

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The tx failed for some reason and I had to resend it to another node, so it took a while. sorry about that

>> No.53758434

dont worry, was just a little confused as I've never had a transaction not show up instantly (although cakewallet nodes were sometimes be pretty slow before they moved to the new loadbalancing setup)

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>been on internet since 2002 or so, turning 30 in less then 2 years, windows 2000 on an IBM desktop was first experience with a computer
>zero enthusiasm for AI have accepted internet was a dead place long ago and see AI as desperate patch by big tech to try to save their aging products
>zero enthusiasm for metaverse view it as scam reflective of decaying society
>internet focused games really lost their cool factor by middle-end point of seventh gen consoles era
>internet shopping companies/platforms feels forced empty useless, propped by VCs with no new ideas but endless budgets and bureaucrat companies treading water
>at most use youtube for occasional music
>kind of miss days of browsing flash games on windows XP and potential risk of getting hit with a malware, internet felt dangerous/real to some point then
>come to conclusion monero has been only meaningful application of networked computers

Anyone older or same(ish) age feel the same? I wonder if 80s BBS users felt the same by the time facebook became a thing. I kind of wish I got to see more of 90s internet.

>> No.53758590
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try OpenBSD its nigger and jew free. Probably the most based and safest OS for Monero. It helps you avoid the Jewish Communist Money Printers who never fail at business and get continually bailed out with the funny money.

>> No.53758667
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A digital cash-like currency is pretty neat if you ask me
Actual game changer

>> No.53759051

Why BSD when Linux exists?

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>nigger and jew free.
>Jewish Communist Money Printers
There a schizo. BSD has its uses in infrastructure but to use it on the desktop is silly.

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>Anyone older or same(ish) age feel the same?
Yes. The internet was a very different place. I used to publish websites using Microsoft FrontPage and later Macromedia Dreamweaver, using those free hostings like geocities. Just a bunch of SWFs that I would steal from other websites and wanted to show my school friends, so they could show their friends. I still have them saved on some backup somewhere.

>> No.53759478

whenever i log into my wallet cli it takes forever for it to sync. even worse is that it keeps logging out and i have to constantly enter my password (probably a setting for this i guess). anyway to speed up this process?

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what was the source for this?

>> No.53759636

Yes I feel the same.
I remember being 14 years old and speaking with well educated randoms on the internet about all sorts of topics. The internet had great potential that was squandered to increase ZOG control.
I wish I knew how to fight back.

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>> No.53760824
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>How do you guys continue to hold this piece of shit?
>How do you do it ??
because I fucking hate the government

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as well as the nice little self-targeted psyop we have going with Monerochan <3

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Jewish Failed Bailed out Bank Money Printers decide who stays in business not the consumer. Yea that is Jewish Communism.

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Government is literally a group of fag enablers. Giving endless handouts to city cretins so that they can just loot and burn down small mom and pop businesses. then the gov comes around with their jewbag commie bs and just chooses who stays in business by debasing the currency.

>> No.53760935

>I'm in for the tech
Biggest cope ever. Nobody likes holding a depreciating asset.
I hold a decent stack of XMR and I don't even look at the chart anymore, because its the most soulcrushing and demoralising thing anyone can do.

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>Nobody likes holding a depreciating asset.

Nigga plz, Monero is demonstrably beating BTC at its own game in REAL-WORLD markets, both darknet and now clearnet, if you're too dense to see where this is all heading then SELL EVERYTHING right now and put it ALL into doggies and BTC.

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So, FireBunnyUSA (darknet vendor) has been busted.

>D.A. Bragg Announces Takedown of Dark Web Cryptocurrency Drug Trafficking Ring That Laundered $7.2 Million

Manhattan District Attorney Alvin L. Bragg, Jr., today announced the indictment of NAN WU, 35, and four accomplices for operating a dark web marketplace that shipped more than 10,000 packages of cocaine, MDMA, Ketamine and other substances to customers in all 50 states and Washington, D.C. As alleged, WU; PENG PENG TANG, 30; BOWEN CHEN, 38; and ZIXIANG LIN, 22; together operated the dark web vendor “FireBunnyUSA,” and laundered $7.2 million, including over $3.1 million in proceeds, through cryptocurrency exchanges. They were assisted by KATIE MONTGOMERY, a United States Postal Service employee, who provided advice about importing drugs into the United States and checked on the status of packages.

Of note: these geniuses were apparently also accepting Monero and then "laundering" it by converting it to BTC and cashing out on KYC exchanges! Pic related.

>> No.53761510

>WU and TANG

>> No.53761511

I think almost all the privacy projects has potentials, as PriFi gains massive adoption

>> No.53761538


>> No.53761554

Cuck license

>> No.53761560

Dont listen to the ztranny. Having a Monerochan sticker is extremely based.

>> No.53761565

> as PriFi gains massive adoption
Never going to happen.
People need to get this copium out of their heads already. THERE WONT BE MASSIVE ADOPTION.
What will happen is one day some guy with lots of nono money and more than 90iq will read one of the many many articles about btc money getting busted and will say geez if only there was something like bitcoin but I don't fancy the idea of getting my ass raped in prison.
And MAYBE some way they stumble onto xmr.
Then they can buy the whole dex order book assuming something like that exists by then.

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>> No.53761835

You evaded my point entirely. No one holds a large quantity of an asset, if he wasn't believing in future gains. In for the tech and not for the money is such an uningenuine argument.

Also on a sidenote, it's kinda funny how shill faggots, who will never take a look at this thread again, are showered in paragraphs of text and genuine concerns are either brushed off entirely, get some passive agressive reply, or are just straight up bombared with insults.

>> No.53761895

Well, that's your opinion about xmr, but I'm actually referring to privacy generally, don't see that normies are adopting privacy now than before?

>> No.53761967

>don't see that normies are adopting privacy now than before?
No I don't.
Look how popular tiktok is.
Look at chromes market share.
2023 is year desktop Linux for sure right? Right?

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>No one holds a large quantity of an asset, if he wasn't believing in future gains.

lol moonfag logic, they do if they need strategic reserves of said asset for doing business. For example, the organized crime syndicates that need to have millions worth of XMR on hand in order to make regular purchases of cocaine for distribution.

Also valid is holding XMR simply to have alternative cash to spend once CBDCs are rolled out and paper fiat is deep six'd.

>> No.53762160

Tiktok, chrome or what have you, are fucking web2 shits, most blockchains like Arbitrum and the likes or other web3 projects are going all out for privacy of their users

>> No.53762224

Do you think xmr or other privacy are used for shitty & criminal activities alone?
NGMI, have you ever consider the good side of privacy, which is anonymity and security of funds to prevent prying eyes attacking your account?

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>NGMI, have you ever consider the good side of privacy, which is anonymity and security of funds to prevent prying eyes attacking your account?

Of course, was just pointing out a current real-world example.

>> No.53762340

can't tell if glownigger trying to drum up 'organic traffic' or pajeet trying to dump his RAIL and SYLO bags. In either case stop samefagging.

>> No.53762402

No one is talking about rail or sylo here, jsut having a normal conversation with little faqs about how important privacy is,
Is rail & sylo a privacy coin like xmr?

>> No.53762428

Yea, you are fucking right on point

>> No.53762691

They're shitcoins shilled by a particular Rajeesh who keeps changing IDs while bringing up topics like web3, privacys, anonymity, shielding, and a few other things.

He also can't type things like 'just' or 'Vishnu is a false god'

>> No.53762919

That has nothing to do with me, pajeet, I'm just here for the normal convo.
Besides, everyone has to fuck with their privacy and freedom here

>> No.53763068

What do you mean? Do you know how annoying it is to actually acquire monero? I make sure I keep like 3 or 4 monero minimum because I actualyl buy shit with monero. My phone VOIP service and my mullvad subscription all accept monero. People actualyl do use it for the tech.

>> No.53763097

>how annoying it is to actually acquire monero

what do you mean by this?

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Localmonero is truly one of the greatest things ever.

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>No one holds a large quantity of an asset, if he wasn't believing in future gains.
This is what "in for the tech" means by the way, at least for a project like monero.
"In for the tech" can easily be translated in "I don't care about short term price movements because the tech (a private digital currency) is just too good so at some point in time it will greatly appreciate in value and I'll be able to use it (not sell it for fiat) to buy more real life stuff directly."
Monero for being a currency can absolutely be used as a "savings asset" where you store money for future needs. Some people might not care about short term price fluctuations because it's may be more important to have this money on an asset that is truly untraceable and impossible to confiscate (monero).
There are millions of use cases of people having a need to hide money. You can hide money digitally with monero in ways that were never possible before.
>Kid lives with abusive parents and start saving money in monero to move away without having parents to rob his money
>A couple go through divorce and instead of having 50% of your net worth transferred to the parasite you have assets hidden in monero that are untouchable
>Due to fear of a big war unrest settles in your country. Government might start freezing people's bank accounts and limiting how much money they can access. You decide to move to another country or continent and you can easily bring monero with you on a USB stick or piece of paper without fear of it being traced back.
I honestly think that people who can't see the many use cases for a currency like monero must be the most over-protected and naive human beings on this planet. There are many reasons to hold monero in varying quantities.

>> No.53763148

Do you still need to pay taxes if you cash out monero?

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>Paying taxes
This is never needed. But if your asking if your local revenue agency/service will come after it depends on if they catch your transaction and tie it to you.

Legally in most places you don't have to pay capital gains until you sell the asset so if you want to avoid taxes on your monero gains legally you could not sell /hold to avoid it .

>> No.53763383

Bros, I own an undisclosed amount of xmr and am gonna need to convert some to USD periodically in the coming year after I quit my job and go back to school full time. What’s the best way to go about this? I’ll need around a week turnaround time max.

>> No.53763740
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Probably buying gold coins with crypto and then selling for cash. Most crypto-friendly bullion dealers can't or won't accept Monero so your best bet is to use Trocador as an intermediary:

>You send Trocador XMR
>Trocador sends an equivalent amount of BTC or whatever to the specified payment address.
>Coins get delivered
>You cash out anonymously

Just make sure to rotate the dealers you buy from, a different one each time.


>> No.53763778

Ok i wonder in the long term how is the circular economy going to work, basically i mean in the long term in the individual level people are fucked.

What i mean by this and with iso 202022 it will be imposible for normal business to do business with crypto or at least monero, sure the dark markets can thrive but basically we will live in a world by the fact alone that you are using monero might make you a target, because i mean if you are just someone that wants to integrate monero and you do it off the book the goverment will know your business has monero, basically the all seeing eye of goverments makes it imposible for crypto to become a new economic system, maybe on an individual level if you peer with diferent people but at some point if you are an individual that trades with a lot of individuals you might get flagged by aml and if you register your business in the end you need to do kyc defeating the whole point of crypto. Basically what i am saying is the goverments have already sucessfully coopted crypto and they don't need to break monero to in the end fuck the end user, basically if you want to legit use it as a payment model it would become ilegal.

>> No.53763925
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>Ok i wonder in the long term how is the circular economy going to work, basically i mean in the long term in the individual level people are fucked.

It'll work the same way it had always worked: as a parallel economic system using foreign currency, the thriving Soviet-era black markets of Eastern Europe are a prime example of this.

>Illegal dealing in foreign currency was punishable with up to eight years in prison. In 1961, already under Nikita Khrushchev, Article 88 was added to the Criminal Code, which envisaged a punishment from three years in prison to the death penalty (execution by shooting), if dealing was in particularly large amounts.

>Such severe persecution of foreign exchange dealers was a reaction to a thriving black market that operated despite all official bans. It was there that the real exchange rate of the Soviet ruble to the US dollar was set, and it was not 67 kopecks, but 8-10 rubles to a dollar.


If the brutally repressive Bolsheviks were unable to prevent its citizens from acquiring and using foreign currency then neither will Western governments, in this case with crypto.

The future is underground, don't expect ANY crypto to have mainstream economic acceptance once CBDCs are rolled out, Uncle Sam & Friends will NEVER tolerate a worthy competitor.

>> No.53763943
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metamask thinks you're a nigger

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You need to see monero being as illegal as alcohol during the prohibition, or weed and other 'light' drugs in current year. People will just use it anyway.
The fiat scam can only run for so long, and governments will of course force the hand of all big businesses so they can't accept anything other than their CBDC. This is a given.
This will spur the new era of small, independent businesses. Globalism will take a massive hit because people will start opting to buying local (with monero and other non-legacy currencies) instead of buying on Amazon or Walmart.
The government DOES NOT have the necessary manpower to force all small businesses out there to be CBDC-only. And small business owners from your neighborhood, who will be very wary of governments and banks, will happily accept alternative currencies in which their value isn't diminished by bad policy.

For all of this to happen you will need some kind of big black swan event that will greatly impact the dollar. Some period of hyperinflation or even the current high inflation for a long enough time will make people start looking for alternative currencies to save their money in (precious metals as physical currency, crypto as digital currency)..

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>> No.53764216

Ok, being honest here. I’m a little paranoid have so much net worth in digital assets which could be lost if stolen.
I’m pretty good with computers but also lazy. Does Monero work well with the original ledger hardware? I have on of those but I could also buy a new piece of hardware or whatever. Just want something relatively easy and secure.

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>original ledger hardware
I think so. Ledger has modules you load into it as it has limited memory. Load the coins you like, fuck the rest.
I have the Trezor T and obtained a Keystone on black friday as featherwallet.org is working with them to bring xmr support to feather.
I am really loving the Keystone over the Trezor. Not sure if it will work with all your holdings though.

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Just use Tails with Featherwallet on a persistent partition, clone the flash drive multiple times and you're golden.


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That post is quintessential reddit.
>confusion of concepts (shipping address vs transaction privacy)
>consooomer mindset (the only conceivable use of money is to order plastic shit off Amazon)
>usage of what he thinks is "academic" lingo ("Judgment:")
>logic is purely perfunctory
>interspersed with alogical paragraphs that reveal his real thinking ("anonymity doesn't allow hedging", "if we're all sitting around broadcasting transactions in the dark, it means the money isn't separate from the state" - don't try to understand this, it is alogical)
>bit of swearing to show what a hard man he is, but not too hard, tee-hee

>> No.53764585

>relatively easy and secure
An old android phone flashed with a custom Rom like graphene or whatever is actually not as retarded as it sounds for this purpose. Assuming you set a max length password (15?) that will reset after 10 wrong guesses, if someone steals your phone it's highly unlikely they'll be able to guess your password or recover any data if they try to factory reset. its also pretty hard to have some remote exploit steal all your moneroj; even the latest and greatest malware needs you to do something stupid like grant the app permission to use your accessibility service.
>Dyor I am not a /g/entoomen

>> No.53764619
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reddit is just a big jewish corporate echo chamber that promotes communism money printing and an noncompetitive nigger jew society. fuck that bs

where is the best place to get a bunch of egg shell monero stickers made

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looks like he deleted that post and i found this in his history

>> No.53764726

jk it isn't from reddit despite how it appears. here it is:

>> No.53764934
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It is true isn't it? that the Jewish Money printers racket of destroying white societies by luring Negroes with income tax payer handouts to push them into white communities to terrorize the white neighborhoods will end once Monero is used by enough white people? Once enough white people are using Monero the Jews who use their Banking Aparatus to spy on all the white peoples transactions so that they can steal from white families under the guise of a constitutionally illegal "income tax" that just ends up becoming a handout system giving free housing and food for negroes who never work for it.

I hear that Jews are really scarred of Monero and do not allow any of their celebrity puppets to talk about Monero to the public.

Is it true that Jews are the main enemy of Monero because it stops the Jews from printing money and it stops the Jews from choosing who stays in business with the funny money bailouts and covid funny money stimulus?

Will jews allow Monero to thwart them?

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Thanks for the link fren, it's a heavy but good read.

>> No.53765001

so i made a wallet using the official monero wallet thingy and created several addresses for donation and stuffz the thing is, when i use these sub addresses they don't get recognized as a monero address but when i use the primary address it gets recognized.
bros what do, i just want an address for donation and other stuff without making another wallet.

>> No.53765264

Thanks for your answer but i mean answer me this points, with the internet
Goverments have the ability to track all your cookies, all your financial transactions, all the content you watch.

Right now CBDCs aren't here yet because the financial system is still old and isn't standardized but with ISO20022 the banks are standardizing and tracking a transaction from Indonesia into venezuela will only take seconds to do it, also with regression models and statatistical models they will be able to know the transactions with cryptocurrencys, this fails with monero and if the whole monero circular economy develops then the glowie toys fail but in the end we need to take into account the monero economy is not closed, at the end of the day people use exchanges to trade crypto back into fiat and while decentralized exchanges may have decent volume it doesn't compare to something like binance has like 66% dominance of centralized exchanges, also for example here.


If you are just a legit business you will need to do all of the AML/CTF just to accept monero or even any crypto, if you try to defy that they will use statiscal analisis to fuck you like this guy, https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1143hlv/unbelievable_this_guy_has_had_his_bank_accounts/ where basically probably the guy did too many transactions and was marketed as running a business

My point is kinda that the surveillance has evolved and will evolve to something even the bolsheviks would be afraid

>> No.53765302

Thanks for your answer, but I mean, answer me these points with the internet.
Governments have the ability to track all your cookies, all your financial transactions, and all the content you watch.

Right now, CBDs aren't here yet because the financial system is still old and isn't standardized, but with ISO 20022, the banks are standardizing, and tracking a transaction from Indonesia into Venezuela will only take seconds, and also, with regression models and statistical models, they will be able to know the transactions with cryptocurrency. This fails with monero, and if the whole monero circular economy develops, then the glowie toys fail, but in the end we need to take into account that the monero economy is not closed. At the end of the day, people use exchanges to trade crypto back into fiat, and while decentralized exchanges may have decent volume, they don't compare to something like Binance, which has a 66% dominance of centralized exchanges. At the end of the day, people use exchanges to trade crypto back into fiat.


If you are just a legit business, you will need to do all of the AML/CTF just to accept monero or even any crypto; if you try to defy that, they will use statistical analysis to fuck you like this guy. https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1143hlv/unbelievable_this_guy_has_had_his_bank_accounts/ where basically the guy did too many transactions and was marketed as running a business.

My point is kind of that the surveillance has evolved and will evolve to something even the Bolsheviks would be afraid of.

>> No.53765346

Yeah i think in the individual level we need to develop our local usage of the coi

>> No.53765415
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>how do you do, fellow monero users

>> No.53765531
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>Goverments have the ability to track all your cookies, all your financial transactions, all the content you watch.

This is what darknets are designed to mitigate.

> we need to take into account the monero economy is not closed, at the end of the day people use exchanges to trade crypto back into fiat and while decentralized exchanges may have decent volume it doesn't compare to something like binance has like 66% dominance of centralized exchanges, also for example here.

When Monero is banned from all KYC exchanges the plebs will be forced to learn how to DEX in order to stay in the game.

>If you are just a legit business you will need to do all of the AML/CTF just to accept monero or even any crypto,

There won't be any "legit" acceptance of crypto once CBDCs are rolled out, everything moves underground at that point and Monero is already firmly established there.

Stop worrying about scenarios that aren't likely to happen, assume that Monero will be universally banned and plan accordingly.

>> No.53765686

This just means building our own hawala networks, which will be ridiculously easy to accomplish even with today's tech. This type of system can't be stopped as long as monero/cbdc whales with a profit motive exist. They can try to stop this kind of thing from happening by making it illegal to spend them or transfer them to certain people/businesses, but that isn't any different than what we have now and these networks still exist.
Yes, this means that WE end up becoming the shadow banks, but at least anyone can become one

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Yes, i know, >windows
I was just dabbling in it, testing it out
When i actually need to do stuff with monero it'll be on a whole different computer and on linux
But for now i was just learning about it
But that was several months ago desu, been busy and havent touched it since
And now, suddenly, this
Wat do?

>> No.53766010

add an exception to that folder

>> No.53766015

i just dca 50 bucks a month

>> No.53766235

it's because it has a built in miner.
just whitelist it.

>> No.53766790

Monero wallet gets flagged as a virus because it has a monero miner, and a lot of malware mines monero on the victims computer.

Windows antivirus doesn't actually know whether an executable is a virus, it just flags anything that is vaguely suspicious in an attempt to stop old people from downloading random crap off the internet.

If it spooks you too much just use a wallet without a miner like feather wallet

>> No.53767307


ok and how do i listen? FM 92.1 or maybe it's on tuneinradio.com?

>> No.53767734

recommended vps provider?

>> No.53767769

ugly logo
never buying
also esperanto is j*Wish

>> No.53767857

Allahu akbar

>> No.53767880

Similar to what this anon >>53763740 said, but you can also just use Cake Wallet to buy and eBay gift card and use that to buy PMs from someone with a good reputation on there. Then just sell the PMs locally.

>> No.53768492
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FBI, Marines, Army, Airforce, Spaceforce, National Guard, Sheriff, Police etc you name it not one authority group in the USA can enforce a border.

Yet they want you to pay taxes so you can bailout failed Jewish Banks, and pay taxes to a government that can't do something as basic as enforce a border.

also the jewbag government just gives endless handouts to niggers to terrorize white ppl

if u pay income tax the gov takes ure tax dollars and makes u a fag enabler by enriching lgbt at ure expense!

fuck that bs

>> No.53768616
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My recommendation is to stop being a useless lazy bastard. You said you're good with computers so this really shouldn't take you more than 2-3 hours total:
>buy 3 USB sticks
>get 3 pieces of paper
>create wallet using seed + extended passphrase (you can't forget this)
>write seed down on all papers, store them at different locations
>install Live Ubuntu or whatever on one of the USB sticks with persistent storage
>boot from USB and install VeraCrypt
>create an encrypted vault (you can't forget the password) where you gonna store all of your software, wallets, passwords, personal photos and docs, etc
>add some instruction text document in the unencrypted part of the live Linux distro for yourself in the future
>clone this USB stick to your other two USB sticks using dd
>store USB sticks at different locations

It's really not that hard.
Using this blueprint above you will be protected in case someone access your paper wallets (seeds won't take anywhere without the extension), you will be protected in case you need to move fast (you can have a USB on your keychain, you can even store the seed online if you want because it's useless without the extension), and even if your house explodes (you have copies in different locations). You can also use your USB sticks as cold wallets if you want by never connecting them to the internet (boot, create the tx files, move the tx file to a hot device via another USB stick and broadcast from there).

Nice and easy DIY. No need to trust regulated and government-friendly hardware companies with your data.
Also if someone goes to your place and see that you have a Ledger™ or a Trezor™ they might instantly know you hold a good amount of crypto which will automatically make you a target.

>> No.53768761

Redpill me on how robust Monero is to quantum attack, plz. I think it's the biggest threat out there right now.

>> No.53768784

inb4 quantum pajeets

>> No.53770030
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gm yurop

>> No.53770225

Pretty sure monero is not quantum-proof because of bulletproofs aren't QP or something. But it's worth it because bulletproofs are so damn compact compared to other ZKPs. Other than that, I think ed25519 is fine because ECC uses discrete log instead of prime factoring? I would ask in the dev IRC (https://web.libera.chat/#monero)), it's been discussed to death there.

>> No.53770940


If QC cracks Monero then ALL the cryptography utilized by Western civilization has been cracked and the chaos can begin.

>> No.53771417

Sell on LocalMonero.

>> No.53771662

10000% resistant because quantum computers are a bigger meme than nuclear fusion

>> No.53771680

Monero's cryptography fpr a transaction consists of several parts:
- the inputs having CLSAG signatures
- the ring having a key image
- the amounts having Pedersen commitments and BP+s
- the output being to a one time key
- view tags/payment ids/other misc features
Arguably the weakest part are the BP+s because they are a new construction, but fundamentally all the above relies on the DLP that is if you multiply a point on an elliptic curve by a integer, you won't be able to divide it to get back. This assumption has been around for decades now and doesn't seem like it can be solved any other way than with brute force.
People always bring up the amounts' BP+s as an example for what can happen if a QC for example breaks the DLP, but they fail to consider the fact that would break everything, including signatures or one time addresses. And it'd break Bitcoin signatures for P2PK UTXOs (all of Satoshi's coins and more) and HTTPS and PDF signatures and Linux package/Windows executable/Android APK/iOS app signatures and probably shitloads more stuff, so BP+s being the point of concern is just so weird that it is almost FUD level.
This is all assuming that QCs can feasibly break ECC, I'm not that well read on this topic, but it seems that QCs need to be several orders of magnitudes larger (and more stable) in order to pull this off, still giving time for Monero to mitigate. And thus, there are some plans, including a "switch commitments" (https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/105)) and ZKP adoption, thought I need to stress that the current plans are BP+(+)s based ZKPs, which would be safe considering today's climate, but for a more robust solution we'd need to find ZKPs based on different cryptographic assumptions, possible zkSTARKs.

>> No.53771721

And to wrap the story of QC in Monero, there is the side note of what if QCs are able to feasibly break hashing algorithms, which would threaten both block production, and basically all cryptography (including the aforementioned zkSTARKs) but from my limited experience, QCs are still only able to halve the security. Not to mention that this would extend to the entirety of Bitcoin, breaking P2PKH UTXOs and block production as well.

So sure, QCs can be a scary concept but overall we have time, and we are partially to blame for choosing just some difficult math exercise, and to be fair the exercises aren't solved with QC, but instead just brute forced more rapidly.

>> No.53771911
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Why is Monero so often overlooked by the 'alt' media?
Are they all co-opted or is it still relatively unknown?

>> No.53772730
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What did Pseudoshi mean by this?


>> No.53772922
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>0 results

>> No.53772993

It bothers me how much money these people without brain have.
It really does and I see it everywhere... work, crypto, politics..

>> No.53773099
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>hello everyone, I am satoshi, creator of bitcoin
>no, not THAT satoshi
kek, pic related

>> No.53773143
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That he has no idea wtf he's talking about

>> No.53773166


>> No.53773195

Is Monerun a self-fulfilling prophecy?
How will you play it?

>> No.53773201

Thank god, but you incremented that to 1.

>> No.53773552
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The BSV niggers are out in force today railing against Monero.


>> No.53773850

Don't bother, it's not worth engaging with retards like that.

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>Trusted technology, growing adoption

Zcash was launched by one of the most respected technical teams in the world.

Zcash is the 'https of blockchains,' protecting your freedom to save and spend as you like.

Zcash was the first project to implement zk-SNARKs, a novel form of zero-knowledge cryptography that gives its users the strongest privacy available in any digital currency.

Multiple, independent organizations are funded to innovate on Zcash.

Zcash is already available on top exchanges, digital wallets and a growing number of applications.

>> No.53778124
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This is what Monerochuds don't want you to know.

Buy Zcash if you actually want to make it.

>> No.53778133

oh good, he's back again.

>> No.53778176
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Better get used to it. The ZEColution is coming.

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>> No.53778498
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Still not buying your compromised tranny coin, faggot.

>> No.53778539
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This is as brain dead as filthy commies saying "personal property isnt the same as private property".

>> No.53778907

I didn't know how much I needed a monerochan lamia until now

>> No.53778926
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If it ain't Monero, i ain't havin it. Zcash is a secondary alternative to monero but Monero is first and foremost the best option for a cryptocurrency. Zcash doesn't even have privacy enabled on default. There is a reason why monero is the main coin people use on the dark web besides bitcoin, it even has a better market value as well.

>> No.53779303


do they still post here

>> No.53779790
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What the privacy difference between?
1. KYC Bitcoin tranfer into monero with Trocador
2. KYC Bitcoin tranfer into monero with LocalMonero with Cashapp

>> No.53780418

But it isnt.

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>> No.53781542

> Monerochan making carby sugary oily goyslop pancakes instead of leany proteiny buttery chadchow omlets.
Bros, how could monerochan do this to me?

>> No.53781546

If she makes you weak by eating garbage you won't leaver her after you see her sats

>> No.53781554

Thats so cunning. What a bitch.
Doesn't she know that I am holding her only because I want to buy redmeat and grassfed butter when both of them become illegal due to large carbon footprint?

>> No.53781684

desu, I reckon both zcash and monero are still noobs when it comes to privacy tech. As far as I can tell, they ain't got no Relayers, and they ain't even using zk-SNARKs, except for zcash. baka, they need to level up their game, ya feel me?

>> No.53782095

Protocols with relayers are good but that doesn't make others less of a privacy protocol. Monero has been here for so long and by far one of the strongest privacy protocol.

>> No.53782707


I invite you to post this to monero.house/c/monerochan (or at least a link to it :P)

>> No.53782957
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Listen up, fag.
I ain't gonna argue with you.
It's not about how far you get, it's about how dank you do it.
When you merge relayers with zk-snarks; the smart privacy tech that all the normie blockchains are fucking on, you're leveling up your privacy game.

>> No.53782982
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Yeah, I think I'm gon' hold off until them shits mature.

>> No.53783209

I need to get my XMR off of an exchange but the fucking XMR blockchain is already 150 GB. I don't have room on my harddrive for this shit & I'm not going to buy a hard drive for it. What wallet can I get that has an SPV mode or similar?

>> No.53783271

Use Feather Wallet. Bonus points for using Feather Wallet on TailsOS encrypted persistent storage for hoarding your XMR into.

>> No.53783679
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Any Monero-chan LoRAs?

>> No.53783895

Yeah, zk-snarks are seriously impressive.
The fact that blockchain is starting to adopt it could mean the associated tokens are gonna fucking moon

>> No.53783945
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lol SNARKs have been on blockchains since 2016, starting with Zcash.

>> No.53784308

i really really like wownero, but it does feel shady that i have to enter my private key to mine

>> No.53784603

XMR quantum research group (check YouTube) concluded that you're safe in the current implementation of you never reveal even your public key.

>> No.53784613

Literally every wallet you retard. Just connect to a remote node.
Also lol at not having 150gb of space.

>> No.53784621

Means there is still massive upside.

>> No.53784699

Literally any monero wallet will let you connect to a remote node so you don't have to download the chain. Maybe if you had bothered to learn how the software works...

>> No.53785267

I know this, but it gained more adoption in 2021, that's when blockchain and most privacy protocol started adopting the tech.

>> No.53785606

What do you guys use as a crypto exchanger? Binanse seems to have too many bugs and other exchamgers are straight up data theft.

>> No.53785650


>> No.53786055

well morphswap turned out to be a rugpull
color me surprised!

>> No.53786138

who would have guessed!

>> No.53786493

>-90% in one day

>> No.53786869
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main official GUI wallet, choose simple mode at setup

>> No.53786988

(Note that the usual privacy warnings of using a 3rd party node are *probably* less of an issue for you, since you're already dealing with an exchange that knows your IP and who you are.)

>> No.53787600
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Qucik question, have RTTs been fixed in Zcash yet?

RTTs make up a good portion of the current shielded pool, so disregarding the spam Zcash is traceable as of now. So much for
>muh cryptography
if toddler can connect the amounts and unmask the transactions.

>> No.53788093
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>> No.53788115

>when you understand that monero has infinite supply and fell out of the top 25

>> No.53788634

>nfer into monero with LocalMonero with Cashapp
LocalMonero stores your IP, Trocador does not

>> No.53788970

I like the idea of monero but it seems like the only way to get some is by using an exchange that has all my info. Is there any way around this? Kinda defeats the point if they have all my information.

>> No.53789077
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>>when you understand that monero has infinite supply and fell out of the top 25

And yet this continues to happen kek

>> No.53789295
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Anything that isn't PoW is a scam.
Anything that isn't ASIC resistant is a scam.

>> No.53790080

It was so predictable how the xmr/btc ratio went to 0 after the infinite supply update

>> No.53790104
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>Anything that isn't PoW is a scam.
heard some guy talking on monerotopia twitter-space thing how he thinks one bad feature in the monero network is that it's not proof-of-stake.
i mean honestly how can you trust the security of a global currency to the hands of the people who have most money in it?
at least with proof-of-work you have some kind of competition for real life resources (electricity/hardware) deciding who gets to mine more of it.
you know, like precious metals in a way.
monero is too good of a currency.

>> No.53790123

Yes friend, us SNAIL holders will be shitting in streets of pure gold when the moontime comes

>> No.53790145

>Stealthex .io
>local monero
Youre not even trying

>> No.53790258

>Stealthex .io
same problem
only seller in my location hasn't been active in 2 years

>> No.53790267

1 xmr = 1 xmr

>> No.53790329

2023 1xmr = 9 whoppers
2024 1xmr = 9 houses

1 xmr =/= 1 xmr

>> No.53790909

>these geniuses were apparently also accepting Monero and then "laundering" it by converting it to BTC and cashing out on KYC exchanges

>> No.53791208

monerobros what is with the gravitational black hole holding this at 160 usd? it seems to trade only against usd. i know i know don't talk about price action but it is totally out of sync with the rest of the market.

>> No.53791246

I suspect it's paper trading by chinknance.
Notice they never provided proof of reserves and disable withdrawals whenever it pumps

>> No.53791392
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Zcash isn't private by default, which means it can, will, and already is being used as a threat vector

>> No.53791721

The point of monero is to give you plausible deniability and to break the chain of custody, not protect you from kyc/aml laws. As long as you use a dex/non-kyc exchange to swap your kyc-coins for monero, there's no way for anyone to prove you bought anything
-the dex has no idea who initiated the trade
-the kyc-service only knows you're using their service to send funds to another wallet
-chainalysis might tell them you sent to a dex, but have no idea what it was swapped to or to whom the swapped coins went
-the above also applies to fiat transfers with banks/zelle/whatever; they just know you sent money to someone for some reason which is literally not illegal (yet)

>> No.53791985

Monero accepting vendors are conspiring to stabilize the valuation, fluctuations complicate their job and annoy customers

>> No.53792193

Lmao the monerotards doing the same cope of gold and silver shitters. They are le suppressing the price. Time to sell this shit

>> No.53792238

Cuteness is Justice!

>> No.53793179

>>Stealthex .io
>same problem
are you retarded

>> No.53793960

BTC and XMR have a unique trading relationship. If you watch it for a while you'll get used to it, but it would be very rare for BTC to pump and XMR to pump in sat value.

XMR is a unique asset with no parallels so describing exactly why this happens would be difficult. It would be reasonable to say that much of the money providing liquidity to the XMR:BTC trading pair is sensitive to sudden changes in BTC price.

I feel XMR thrives when BTC is flat, and pretty much always takes a hit whenever BTC goes up.

BTC hasn't had a protocol-specific crisis lately, but if that ever were to happen, there is some reasonable chance that XMR would moon.

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this, i've stopped using the chink exchange ever since i couldn't get hold of my XMR because of suspended withdrawals. No maintainance was happening on the chain and other CEX were allowing withdrawals just fine. Binance had no official statement on why the withdrawals were suspended, which makes me believe they just run out of their reserves.

>> No.53794310
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>which makes me believe they just run out of their reserves.

B-b-b-but the exploited inflation bug means there should be an (over)abundance of supply on exchanges!!!!

>> No.53794472

This is the dumbest advice ever. Why are all the faggots in this general such cringey retards?

>run your XMR through as many intermediary steps as possible, expending retarded amounts of effort and losing huge percentages on spreads along the way because....

What is the upshot of this meant to be? Moving money around like a sketchy retard is more likely to get a spotlight on you if anything. Monero isn't illegal.

Cash it out on a KYC exchange if you want. Maybe you swap to BTC or USDT/C first, cash out and pay long term capital gains tax which will be less than what the convoluted PMs method would cost you. If you want privacy and to not pay tax then use localmonero and do cash by mail or whatever suits you.
Also ebay gift cards can't be used to buy precious metals or any kind of cash substitutes. The VERY OBVIOUS thing to do is just buy the stuff you need with gift cards. WHOAH! Did I just blow your mind? What an idea!

>> No.53794540

One will get you slightly more XMR. You'd have to check yourself at the time. Assuming they're both with cashapp and I actually have no idea how cashapp works but you should probably send it to an intermediary electrum wallet for a semblance of BTC privacy on your way into XMR.

LocalMonero also has Tor

>> No.53794559

We have decoupled!

>> No.53794623

based XMR chads

>> No.53796412

The only thing I like with this piece of shit is the messaging app, cos it's similar to cryptviser that i use on a daily basis for messages as it eliminates the threat of man-in-the-middle attacks.
Funny enough, Zcash is my biggest bag, some random guys on YouTube won't stop talking about it, now I'm waiting to break even.

>> No.53797578

XMR is my biggest bag, some random guys in the real world won't stop using it

>> No.53798387
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why aren't the grey market watch dealers doing more deals in monero? those guys love to avoid taxes at all cost. it is one of the greasiest games in the world. the used watch market.

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>> No.53800764

Is that a boomer heavy market?
If monero were boomer proof, then even such markets could make use of monero.

>> No.53801194
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I'd say its more of a boomer greaseball heavy market. EVERYONE in the grey watch market industry is HELL bent on not paying taxes. They just experienced their biggest market boom and then bust back in march / april. The watch market dealers sit around all day and in their free time they grift, scam, and don't pay taxes. i don't understand why they aren't on board with monero. i think partly because of the btc crash back in march / april which is when luxury watch market crashed. niggers are such a bane in the luxury watch market world with their after market diamonds lol.

>> No.53802394
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>> No.53802500

Will post sexy vocaroo for $10 xmr. Price is negotiable

>> No.53803074

I've come to not like it at all. Used to feel fun and neat and memey. Now it just seems scammy

>> No.53803084
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I've had enough, I'm going to train my own LoRA for more 'accurate' monero-chans.

>> No.53803710

Lmao, based

>> No.53803977

what happened to monegrochan?

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They're scattered all over the place. I've found the best stream to be at https://redcircle.com/shows/CaptainBlackbeard but no idea when they upload new episodes to it. Their EndChan barely works for downloads.

>> No.53804459

it's low budget for now but it's honest

>> No.53804582
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It's a reddit scam latched on to the Monero project and should be avoided.

>> No.53804726

what does that even mean "a reddit scam"
you can see everything that happens

>> No.53804767
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Too retarded to create a lora, so did the next best thing: an embedding

progress so far is alright https://files.catbox.moe/i376va.png
I do will train more though

>> No.53804820

>bottom middle, disarmed monero-chan
oh dear

>> No.53805973

Anywhere you can buy SMS numbers with XMR?

>> No.53806730


>> No.53807287

there is silent.link that sells esims for xmr

>> No.53807299
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I prefer a "covered up" modest Monero-chan to a lewder revealing one.
Although sometimes, the more revealing ones are nice as well... ;)

>> No.53807377

>what does that even mean "a reddit scam"
I mean exactly what I said, it's a scam made by a redditor to steal from Monero's good name.
>you can see everything that happens
Doesn't make a difference, zcash isn't NOT a scam just because it's open source.

>> No.53807405
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>> No.53807644
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>there is silent.link that sells esims for xmr

It's been available as a payment option there for barely a couple of months and is already gaining on BTC/LN kek

>> No.53807801


Reddit fags pilling on OP for running a Monero SaaS.

>> No.53807864
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redpill this guy on XMR: >>53807317

>> No.53807872

Finished my stack.
One ticket to the Mars please.

>> No.53807915
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>> No.53809022

g-guys. This thread on /pol/ has me scared. Is it true that ring signatures and monero are all just backdoors?


>> No.53809424

/pol/ is like a nature preserve for retards.

>> No.53809474

ha. this guy is in for a rude awakening. he thought he could just make an exchange-like software and process monero payments without getting the full scrutiny of the banking system?
the banking system has a monopoly in money laundering, they want no competitors.

>> No.53809500

I dunno but why though? If Monero uses Curve25519 and it is proven to be using default values thats and the NSA was the first instance who recommended it, that sounds a bit fishy. desu

>> No.53809565

If you are worried about the curve, seraphis changes curve due to some new properties that the current one doesn't have.
You can read discussion here https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/100#issuecomment-1439662772

>> No.53809622

Tell the chad privacy is huge and based. You better put everything inn before you get left behind. Shoot on SCRT and RAIL likewise.

>> No.53809695

You are dodging my question.

So does it mean /pol/ actually is correct and there is a risk of backdoors in Moneros curve?

>> No.53809982
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if anything the fact that monero (cryptonote to be more accurate) was developed by eastern europeans makes it a safer alternative to most other cryptographic software projects out there.
>So does it mean /pol/ actually is correct and there is a risk of backdoors in Moneros curve?
i don't think so, it seems that what op shared on that thread is many years old. if it was the case that encryption is broken then the implications would be massive worldwide and you'd have more important things to care about than your cryptocurrency wallet private key. so i think it's safe to assume it's not broken.

>> No.53811162

no. addresses and amounts, the things you'd need for le based haxor to steal your private keys, are never seen on the blockchain.

until someone creates a keys.lol for monero, i wouldn't worry about it

>> No.53811538

show proof

>> No.53811796
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It isn't like the devs of CryptoNote and Monero have saw NIST as a central point of failure, oh wait they did!

>> No.53811991

>until someone creates a keys.lol for monero, i wouldn't worry about it
So why are they still using it? Reeeeeeeeeeeee

>> No.53812416

Wrong. Curve25519 is the non-NSA one. ECDSA/P-256 is what set back getting off RSA by a decade.


>> No.53812531

read glowie

>> No.53812550

Good lord, you read that exactly backwards.

>> No.53812824

>((Bernstein)) released Curve25519 & Ed25519
>Glowie still trying to play the fool.
Every fuckingtime.

>> No.53812887

The math speaks for itself. P-256 failed audits, Curve25519 didn't. There's a reason OpenBSD uses Curve25519 for package signing and OpenSSH.

>> No.53813007
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Does anyone know if the big libertarian PorcFest events in New Hampshire have any sort of Monero community presence?

Thinking about going this year.

>> No.53813087

We get it, you are a low IQ anon spreading fud. Move along.

>> No.53813508

yes they do, the guys from monerotopia always go to porcfest and they do preach the word over there

>> No.53814885

The Sub5k Monero Ordinal Collection #NSFW, including inscriptions #992, 1111, 1204, 1603, 2341, 2551, 2775, 2950, 3047, 3410, 3489, 3545, 3618, 3678, 3722, and 3772 https://ordinalsbitcoin.com/address/bc1p53gtlypjkeq6lns00c7sqjxsfc7knw6a6k370yjpnztfq8auue6sxv7w3c

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Kek. Lets keep this going.

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https://files.catbox.moe/1gr2d8.jpg Is that [spoiler]Monero-kun[spoiler] ?!
https://files.catbox.moe/90m21r.jpg See how Bitcoin-chan [spoiler]glows.[/spoiler]
https://files.catbox.moe/4yb99g.jpg Laughin at [spoiler]no coiners![/spoiler]

Nothing to release yet as generations heavily depend on other models/loras.

>> No.53815063
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https://files.catbox.moe/hfxrue.jpg (embed)
https://files.catbox.moe/929tcb.jpg (embed)
https://files.catbox.moe/1gr2d8.jpg (embed) Is that Monero-kun ?!
https://files.catbox.moe/90m21r.jpg (embed) See how Bitcoin-chan glows.
https://files.catbox.moe/4yb99g.jpg (embed) Laughing at no coiners!

Nothing to release yet as generations heavily depend on other models/loras.

>> No.53815107

what are loras

>> No.53815288

An extention for Stablediffusion. Helps the users in adding specific art styles/characters/concepts into an image.
LoRAs are much smaller then models and you can tune multiple at a time within varying degrees.

https://github com/cloneofsimo/lora

>> No.53815419
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Global Hyperinflation. General /GHG/ >>>/pol/417233232

>> No.53815858

Thought Lora was a person lol

>> No.53815998

Imagine the smell

>> No.53816323

Is there a picture of Monero-chan on a motorcycle yet?

>> No.53816644
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they let me turn monerochan into necoarc. science has gone too far.

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>my edit made it in

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>> No.53818522

>the absolute state of the current darknet markets
fucking hell bros

>> No.53818747

Yeh it's pretty trash right now. Doubt this will last, though. The spice must flow.

>> No.53819462

i’m salty about AB desu, but ASAP is ok for my needs