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53748195 No.53748195 [Reply] [Original]

it's fucking over!!!! wtf is going on????? i keep getting dumped on??? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>Poccия is colapsing
yes but why???.

>> No.53748202

>>53748195
Russian monetary base has been greatly expanded while dollar monetary base has been declining for a year

>> No.53748214
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>2 more weeks and the us dollar will collapse and russia will rule the word.

>> No.53748237

>>53748195
what is the russian ruble backed by?
is it more fake money like usd or is it actually backed with gold/silver?

>> No.53748238

>>53748202
>mutts raising the debt ceiling is good
yea chief, i don't think so

>> No.53748252

>>53748238
You are asking what happened now, not what likely is going to happen in 6 - 9 months when the dollar expands again and exports its inflation this time not just to South America but now also heavily to Europe, which wont be good for the ruble either. Putin better finds a reason to take Odessa and level Kiev in the next 6 months or the US is going to drag the world into economic gehenna this year when it falls while trying to save itself

>> No.53748255

>>53748237
actual goods, like energy and food, and then the dollar, is backed by what? diversity hires? strongest army???

>> No.53748265

>>53748255
>actual goods, like energy and food
how? can you take your rubles to the russian government and exchange them for energy and food?

>> No.53748281

>>53748252
kek south america is going to dump the dollar, have not you seen that Brazil and Argentina are building a new joint currency for trade?? plus they are getting closer to china or brics? the dollar is kill, just two more weeks I swear

>> No.53748284

>>53748255
holy cope

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>>53748237
>is it actually backed with gold/silver?
yeah le based monke actually implemented a gold standard, ruskie shills on twatter and /pol/ won't lie, the collective west is so fucked

>> No.53748292

>>53748281
So? they are diversifying, rightfully so, will it soften the blow, likely not. btw, the narrative that is still on the table to force nato to either draw and lose or retreat from their bluff is pressing the selling of Russian assets more and using it as pretext to intensify the conflict

>> No.53748305
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If Russia was led by competent leaders instead of spergy pants shitting midgets that only cared about themselves and their cronies they would be a serious threat

>> No.53748316

>>53748237
If you mean what kept the Russian economy afloat it was selling natural resources on the free market.
Now their market is not free - they have to sell with huge discount AND they have to buy with huge overprice.

>> No.53748319

>>53748305
why are nato shitposters always projecting so hard? What would happen if Russia lets say, send some tanks into Poland, would Germany and French start to print cash and take debst to restock their arsenal and come to help? Would the US do? No because their inflation woudl be at 10000%s in an instant

>> No.53748324

>>53748319
I don't know Boris why don't you invade Poland and find out? Lay off the krokodil man.

>> No.53748332

>>53748292
it's not just southamerican govts, it's the whole world, even kikes are dumping the dollar, and when the kiyeeiv falls, and it will because they are running out hohols, will be see as another defeat from nato/usa and the colective west aswell.

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>>53748332
>it's not just southamerican govts, it's the whole world, even kikes are dumping the dollar, and when the kiyeeiv falls, and it will because they are running out hohols, will be see as another defeat from nato/usa and the colective west aswell.

>> No.53748342

>>53748284
>you coping!!
>no, you!

>> No.53748343

>>53748324
Nobody said invade? How about a rogue violin quartet starting their own special military operation while Moscow lets the west know that they are acting on their own behalf and that one might cooperate to bring them to "justice"
Really, would Germany and French and the US start a real war economy to help Poland? Ask yourself that and you know, Nato has been bluffing for a year and all that anybody really needs to do to call the bluff is send some rogue units into a nato country and have them blow up an electric mast or two

>> No.53748347

>>53748343
Yes. NATO exists solely because Russians are subhuman barbarians. No one wants another USSR besides delusional Ruscrement.

>> No.53748354

>>53748336
>mutts: coping
>debt ceiling: increasing

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>>53748319
>if russia sends a dozen of T34s into Poland EU gonna collapse

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>>53748354

>> No.53748359
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>their own special military operation

It's a war Vatnigger and you aren't winning

>> No.53748364

>>53748347
Are you a woman or just retarded. The reason why nato exists is not in question, the question is simple, does NATO have currently the economic, political and military capacities to go to war or help a member out, the answer is no. NATO is bluffing and its time the bluff gets called because else it gets really dangerous and not just about selling American LNG and oil to euros at a premium while keeping the ruskies out of the market

>> No.53748367

>>53748316
yes, this could be the reason, but dollar isnt the greatest currency either

>> No.53748368

>>53748364
Yes, we do. Please continue sperging out so we can also add Austria and Switzerland to our ranks.

>> No.53748376

>>53748359
look at this NAFO trannie, can't beat some chink farmers or sand niggers, yet implies they can actually beat the ruskies, holy cope

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>>53748376
>look at this NAFO trannie, can't beat some chink farmers or sand niggers, yet implies they can actually beat the ruskies, holy cope


Post picture of tap water thirdie shitter

>> No.53748386

>>53748368
no, you dont. Military stocks all across europe are in a desolate capacity, Europe looks at nearly double digit inflation with bond yield nearing american levels and has no room for new debts a war and remilitarization would require. And the political capital has been completely used up to legitimize the last bank robbery about the coof

>> No.53748391

>>53748386
It's too bad the Russians are too incompetent to even GET to Poland or we could find out if you are correct. Once the Slavshit colonial empire collapses Belarus will be absorbed into Poland and we will help Finland take Karelia back. Japan gets Sakhalin too. That is your future.

>> No.53748393

>>53748355
yuropoors are collapsing by their own weight by paying the energy ten times what they used to do.

>> No.53748400

>>53748383
kekekekek mutts seething

>> No.53748404

>>53748393
>yuropoors are collapsing by their own weight by paying the energy ten times what they used to do.


Yuropoors don't have the highest HIV rate in the world. They're doing alright.

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>>53748400
kekekekek mutts seething

>> No.53748414

>>53748391
Because it seems the russians are yet not keen enough to call the NATO bluff. Either its the wests lucky day or just waiting for the west having grinded its own limited capacities down donating them to Ukraines war of attrition and calling the bluff more directly later on, when europe is basically defenseless

>> No.53748416

>>53748376
why do you guys try with these transparent cope responses? in those situations you name it's literally 50 chink/sandnig deaths for each american death, but americans just value their own casualties higher and aren't willing to sacrifice 2000 to kill 100000. can you name me a war where the US/NATO lost more troops than it killed, or where it actually ran out of manpower rather than choosing to stop fighting?
of course i'm not gonna get a real answer because you're not a serious person, you're an ugly, weak retard irl who blindly shills against anything he perceives as "globohomo"

>> No.53748418

>>53748404
>yeah now hiv will determine if you succeed in a war
cope

>> No.53748419

>>53748367
lol, the usd actually is the greatest currency. doesn't matter what delusional currency dreams you have, it's a real world fact

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>>53748400
Ruscrement have this clown leading the special retard operation and WE'RE the mutts?

Krododil and HIV, not even once.

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>>53748414
>r-russia is just holding back, just wait bro, two more weeks
kek

>> No.53748436

>>53748414
europe is basically defenseless


Lmao. Your government is lying to you comrade. Come on over and find out.

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Russians are brainwashed subhuman retards. They've been taught this shit their whole lives and they actually believe it. Their leader is a pants shitting midget.

Joke of a country. Even China wants them gone.

>> No.53748452

>>53748412
>he thinks i'm somewhere close to this meat grinding shit
you better pray for this war to end soon or you will be drafted, dumb mutt

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>>53748452
>dumb mutt

>> No.53748467

>>53748436
>Your government
I am no Russian
Neither Germany, French, Poland or any Euro country has the capacities to wage a war or effectively defend its own territory and the US has currently not the economic and political capacities to bring boots on the ground. Europe is basically defenseless and that is not even considering the political cleavages inside the european nations that only need a match

>> No.53748470

>>53748452
>y-you better hope this ends quick! it's gonna go really bad for you! please just surrender! please!!!
no refunds

>> No.53748472

>>53748467
Ok comrade. Russia is strong and powerful. So strong they can't even take Kyiv.

I'm not afraid of Russia. No one is.

>> No.53748476

>>53748462
still you will get drafted, I will watch (You) in some telegram channel, eventuallly.

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>>53748476
No, you won't. That'd be your buddies Anatoly and Sergey.

>> No.53748484

>>53748467
> the US has currently not the economic and political capacities to bring boots on the ground.
cope, the US currently doesn't have the political will to bring boots on the ground because nothing is happening to make people want to support such actions.
if a NATO border gets looked at the wrong way by russia then there will be unilateral support for US intervention, and no country on earth is better equipped/positioned for military escalation than the US - believing anything else is PURE unfounded cope

>> No.53748487

>>53748481
i'm no russian yet i long total anihilation of the mutts and their jew empire

>> No.53748497

>>53748487
So you're in a country even shittier than Pussia. Congratulations!

Jews own Russia btw. The Russian "revolution" was a Jewish takeover. Keep screaming about Jews though.

>> No.53748511

>>53748472
The projection again, typical nato sped.
Russia has obviously the capacities to wage a war as demonstrated over the last year; NATO has donated a giant part of its AT infantry stock, mobile artillery stock, light and medium tank stock and maybe will go so far to donate their air force stock to Ukraine, for it to be grinded down in a war of attrition the russians can drag as long as they like or be sold by Ukrainians to interested parties.

Meanwhile rebuilding stock is not really working as planned in nato countries.

>I am not afraid of russia
what? Why should you e afraid of russia, war is just a rational game that can be analysed

>> No.53748527

>>53748497
yea i'm not happy about my country however i do have free healthcare and free universities, do you? dumb nigger mutt

>> No.53748535
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>>53748511
I ain't reading all your thirdie shit anymore. I'm out. I'll have a great day today knowing that thirdie retards are raging about NATO even though their fellow thirdies are literally dying to get into our countries.

Maybe some day you losers will discover plumbing.

>> No.53748538

>>53748511
>Russia has obviously the capacities to wage a war as demonstrated over the last year; NATO has donated a giant part of its AT infantry stock, mobile artillery stock, light and medium tank stock and maybe will go so far to donate their air force stock to Ukraine, for it to be grinded down in a war of attrition
why try to delude yourself like this? NATO has donated only a fraction of its overall arsenal, its total arsenal is simply factually much larger than russia's arsenal (even US arsenal alone is bigger, that's not even accounting for russian aged cold war vehicles vs modernity), and russia is losing more of its arsenal percent-wise than the ukrainian side is, while making virtually no territorial progress
even a 5th grader can immediately see what side is more affected by attrition. i know RT isn't paying you to post this psychotic shill shit so how come you're posting it?

>> No.53748542

>>53748484
I doubt it. Iraq is still ongoing, Afghanistan was a disaster and the political cleavages inside the US dont allow the necessary majorities. On top of it a divided house and a President with the highest disapproval rate since King George. A few masts getting blown up by Wagner wouldnt be enough to tip the scales.

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>>53748472
Kyiv would be easy after they finally take a giga-fortified metropolis called BAHMUT

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>>53748527
It's not free fuckface. Your taxes pay for it. My healthcare is better than yours. I own my own home with acres of land. You live in a concrete commie block built for roaches like yourself. Enjoy, faggot.

>> No.53748561

>>53748542
more cope, even republicans are massively pro-ukraine on aggregate and are more hawkish on china than dems are (plus generally more war-hungry). americans don't care about iraq/afghanistan because they're "forever wars" that don't affect westerners directly in any way. an attack on a NATO member would mean a unilaterally supported declaration of war within an hour, you are as delusional as GME baggies if you believe otherwise

>> No.53748563

>>53748546

holy cope, don't you pay taxes too but still don't get shit? kek, also what's the deal with cardboard houses?

>> No.53748571

>>53748563
that's his point retard, russians and americans both pay for healthcare and housing, neither side actually gets anything "for free", american healthcare and housing is better though. western european healthcare trumps both, russia is third world tier

>> No.53748586

>>53748538
Until now. Germany hasnt managed to restock their shit for years while their navy is for the most part inoperable same as their air force and tanks, France doesnt have the personal to maintain their air force adequately, even the US has issues finding the people to maintain and operate their toys.
Nato has now for 20 years tried to put new paint over a desolate situation and it was obvious for every one to see that wanted to see it.
>>53748561
>an attack on a NATO member would mean a unilaterally supported declaration of war within an hour,
I wouldnt be so sure anymore about it. NATO countries all have their own internal issues that wait for now more than some slavshit country getting targeted by rogue mercenaries. Btw how is Turkey these days

>> No.53748592

>>53748571
>american healthcare and housing is better though
KEKEKEKEK

>be mutt
>get shot
you now broke

>be mutt
>live in a pod/van/tent
at least i don't speak German

COPE
THE POST

>> No.53748615

>>53748586
>Until now. Germany hasnt managed to restock their shit for years while their navy is for the most part inoperable same as their air force and tanks, France doesnt have the personal to maintain their air force adequately
this is all cope, you could say the same times 20 for ukraine which is objectively worse than all these countries in every respect yet russia is embarrassing itself biting its teeth into ukraine. reports about russian quality are infinitely more dire, videos of russian recruits receiving rusty cold-war era AKs that don't work, no rations, nothing. you are COPING. russia is not in the same league as the top tier of individual NATO countries, let alone NATO combined. the only trump card is nukes.
>NATO countries all have their own internal issues that wait for now more than some slavshit country getting targeted by rogue mercenaries.
NATO has the luxury of being able to worry about smaller issues because russia is absolutely failing to make a dent in ukraine and isn't an actual threat. if NATO had to go to war, it would obviously be priority number one on everyone elses minds, overtaking the economy in a day.
just think about how many issues fucking russia had and it still went to war lol.
>Btw how is Turkey these days
poor third world roach country, russia can compare itself to turkey but rich countries don't

>> No.53748629

>>53748592
what the fuck is this pajeet post? lmao. the average american lives in a van, while the average russian lives in a nice house with a yard.
also, russian healthcare is top tier and top 0.01% students from all across the world are lining up to go to med school in russia. did you perhaps confuse "the united states of america" with "the bottom 5% of niggers in the united states of america"? because everyone over the age of 14 knows that the median standard of living takes a shit directly in the mouth of even 90th percentile russians.. i must be getting baited

>COPE
>THE POST

>> No.53748644

>>53748629
>>53748615
anyway was fun humiliating the vatnikcels, enjoy your standard of living my wealthy friends! welcome to the first world! time to go make more money in a day from the comfort of my home than you make in 2 weeks

>> No.53748666

Unbacked fiat currency printed out the ass by a first world country with a massive deficit? Nah, I'll go with the unbacked fiat currency printed out the ass by a third world country with a massive deficit

>> No.53748677

>>53748644
yea I long getting shot by some nigger, pay reparations to niggers, bend the knee for the niggers and and watch nigger ball on weekends, what a great living standard

>> No.53748678

>>53748615
what is it with the goal post rising? Is Russia keeping its frontlines while Ukraine has been getting natos finest toys and instructors while they get grinded down in a war of attrition or not?
>videos
copyrighted by Nato tv like the chinks falling over in the streets?
>Minor issues
that make leaders and representatives think trice about losing more power.
>If nato had to go to war
lucky nato, never has fought a war until now, would be really interesting to see how they stand up waht would be arguably the first war nato would ever participate in.
>ib4 yugo "wars", african "wars"
those wre hardly wars
>Turkey
a nato member that is currently esecuring Russias southern flank, nice military alliance

>> No.53748688

>>53748666
look at this dumb nigger, ignores the fact that russia does have something that the world needs, like energy and food, holy cope, what does the jew.s.a. produce? niggers?

>> No.53748721

>>53748688
Russia has lots of energy in the ground, they can only extract it economically with western tech.

>> No.53748736

>>53748721
ah yes sanctions, they havent worked in 2014 they havent worked today. Russian energy get relabeled and countries importing the tech exporting it to russia are happy to take a premium

>> No.53748799

>>53748721
thats somewhat true, however they are changing western technology, for example, they are changing Siemens turbines.

>> No.53748834

MEASER MEASER MEASER
MEASER MEASER

>> No.53748871

>>53748287
PIGGY!

>> No.53749016

>>53748629
>top med school students are lining up
Topkek no top med school student in the west wants to study in russia

>> No.53749533

>>53748467
hahah
Poland and Finland each of them ALONE could beat russian shitty army at its current state.
even a year ago they could have done it easily

>> No.53749556

>>53748195
lol that Siamese looks retarded.

>> No.53749643

>>53749533
I would really like to see it, especially after Finnland is actively trying to get into nato, which looks like its acts out of a position of weakness and Pooland, they have been talking a big game since the last time they disappeared from the map and reappeared, maybe its time to play the where has Poland gone game again

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>>53749556
this one does

>> No.53751224
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>>53749556
envious nigger

>> No.53751272

>>53751224
Aw, that one is cute.
>>53751182
Poor dwarfism tard.

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High mf on cat nip.

>> No.53751700

>>53751345
holy fuck your kot is jailed???

>> No.53752584

>>53748393
Tripled at peak and has fallen to prewar levels over six months

>> No.53752682

>>53748467
Ukraine didn't seem any better prepared than those countries and has held Russia to 1/6th of their border for 12 months.

>> No.53752694

>>53751700
Yeah he's brown.

>> No.53752832

>>53748586
Ukraine has been promised 80 of Germany's *4000* leopard tanks. They've received 20 Himars, and fucking Romania has *60* all by themselves.

>> No.53752850

>>53752682
Didnt look that well until nato started to donate a big chunk of their hardware and instructors on top of those that have been in the country since 2012.
What happens when that hardware gets grinded to dust or sold to west and central Africa while the russians have taken Odessa by June

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>>53748252
>if Russia conquers two cities in Ukraine in the next six months it will prevent an economic depression
uh, what?

>>53748319
>>53748343
>Russia could conquer Poland tomorrow and no country could stop them because it would cause inflation
I think you need to cut back on the Austrian economics bro

>>53748364
>the war is mostly about selling American LNG and oil to euros at a premium while keeping the ruskies out of the market
you're 100% correct about this

>>53748386
>>53748414
>>53748467
>>53748511
>>53748586
>Europe and USA used all their equipment and couldn't beat Russia in a war
see picril, European NATO could beat Russia in a war even if the USA didn't help

>> No.53752883

>>53752832
>4000
on paper, check how many are operational.

>> No.53752924

>>53752876
spending doesnt translate directly into hardware, let alone operational hardware or manpower able to operate and maintain the possible aquired hardware that isnt ready in 2 minutes like some fastfood

>> No.53753098

>>53748678
Ukraine has taken back a higher percentage of Russian occupied territory already in nine months than Russia has occupied percentage of Ukrainian territory since 2014.

>> No.53753141

>>53753098
>Taken back
a tactical retreat to secure the key territories and focus on the main target while leaving the bait cold is hardly a reconquering of territory

>> No.53753155

>>53752850
Considering that Germany has sent Ukraine about 80 tanks out of 4000, you've got a long way to go.

>> No.53753200

>>53748342
* rapes and beheads you *

>> No.53753219

>>53753155
havent found exact numbers on the fly, but during a test of new equipment most failed and Germany heavily relies on hardware from the 1970s

>> No.53753232

>>53753141
you a Russian army advisor?
*defenestrates you*

>> No.53753270

>>53753141
>When you retreat, you win

>> No.53753327

>>53753219
As far I can tell from history, every army is mostly using ramshackle crap all the time: WW2 units might have 1/5 of their vehicles operational at a time.

>> No.53753381

>>53753270
what is more important, cutting off Ukraine and therefore nato from the northern shores of the Black Sea and gaining control over Odessa or taking Lemberg and Kiev?
>>53753327
wars are ultimately won by the moral and political situations at home, when they dont take place at home. natos involvement in this war has no support from the homefront and I doubt they would find a majority if another nato country gets attacked.