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[Anonymous No.53660410]

CPI data is coming in hot on Tuesday and the markets will go blood red. The Fed plans to revise fed funds rate targets in their March meeting so we'll likely see "higher than planned" interest rates. Likely 6%, but powell will sweet talk you into letting him anally penetrate you.

Unemployment hasn't even started, Car loans go next, then foreclosures.

You permabull trannys are in for a treat.

1.5x - 2x short on everything is safe money.

[Anonymous No.53660448]

But you told me the absolute inflation top already happened last month

[Anonymous No.53660459]

>>53660410
Priced in.

[Anonymous No.53660460]

>>53660410
Wrong. The real unemployment numbers are staggering and if the fed is basing their policies off clickbait headlines and usurper politician talking points then it doesnt matter anyway.
We are in a full blown recession by the actual numbers, the fed is aware of this and I expect march to be a no hike month and then an adjustment in April.

[Anonymous No.53660484]

>>53660448
The science got updated, chud

[Anonymous No.53660516]

Imagine swallowing the doom porn. Advanced NPC behavior.

[Anonymous No.53660762]

>>53660460
>if the fed is basing their policies off clickbait headlines and usurper politician talking points then it doesnt matter anyway.
Jerome said he's going to let the data guide the Fed's decisions. If Biden wants to continue giving Jerome cover to keep raising rates by feeding him cooked data, fine.

[Anonymous No.53660811]

>>53660410
>checks Truflation
>confirms nothingburger
alright then.

[Anonymous No.53660835]

>>53660410
jerome is tired of you fudding fags!

[Anonymous No.53661836]

OP thx for the bottom signal. Were you also shorting in spring of '20 or were you even old enough to trade then?

[Anonymous No.53661886]

>>53660484
>Knowingly make shit up
>Redact it later
Based kike media

[Anonymous No.53661895]

>>53660516
Imagine ignoring Jerome telling you exactly how he will react to inflation data when he’s been consistent in following his plan for months

[Anonymous No.53661996]

>>53660516
>little did he know: it was him who is the NPC

[Anonymous No.53663938]

>>53660516
Have you actually gone out and spoke to people in a variety of social and economic situations? It’s not just doom porn, people of all income levels are kvetching about how much things cost and how little money they have. Anytime you drive by a car newer than 2015 understand it was financed. And most of the people buying these cars worked out the payment to be within 15% of them going broke if shit hits the fan. Corporate America has been poisoned by six sigma kaizen bullshit, and it’s leaked down into the underlings. People assume everything will be OK and to just keep kicking the can. I don’t think you’re prepared for how ugly things are going to get… not sure how that will translate to stocks so don’t ask me. This sentiment wasn’t there in 08, btw. Even on the decline people still had money to go out to eat. Now they’re priced out of that homie

[Anonymous No.53664938]

>>53663938
*not sure how that will translate to the stock market either. Sorry about my typo.

[Anonymous No.53664986]

>>53660516
it's been like 16 years since we last saw 5-7% rates. the economy is denial right now. you can't cope away increased cost of capital.

[Anonymous No.53664996]

>>53660410
The funny part is that they higher the rates get, the more money they have to print to service the debt.
That money is then subject to the fractional reserve nature of the system and it end up creating even more inflation than having low rates.

So they are fighting inflation by creating more inflation.
lmao everyone is fucked.
If you argue with me you are a brainlet that doesn't understand at all how things work.

[Anonymous No.53665018]

>>53663938
>>53664938
There is too much money being created for the stock market to go down for a sustained period of time
The 500 I mean.

Just make sure you don't hold the ones that go out of business though kek.

[Anonymous No.53665204]

why does that kike powell keep lying? why wont he just say "we need people to lose their jobs to make it look like inflation is going away"

ive watched every one of his interviews and the little kike always lies about what the fed is trying to do

[Anonymous No.53665216]

>>53660410
Why do you think we have been dumping for weeks? The market is forward looking and already priced in the .6% MoM CPI. There will be no dump on the day of the news, if anything we will pump as the bad is all priced in.

[Anonymous No.53665265]

>>53663938
The NPC’s on the right I’ve spoke to all think we are due for another Great Depression, the NPC’s on the left believe that economy is fine and we need to focus on social issues land climate change.

[Anonymous No.53665981]

>>53661895
His plan is creating fomo into risk assets that he will destroy once his buddies finish selling

[Anonymous No.53665993]

>>53660484
I'm so glad that America isn't like China. Oh wait

[Anonymous No.53666002]

>>53660448
Inflation decided to become transitory again, this time from a top to a bottom. Sorry chud, now get on top.

[Anonymous No.53666010]

>>53660410
BULLSHIT! CPI will continue to decline. Eat shit bobo!

[Anonymous No.53666030]

>>53660410
People working is inflationary and these faggots printing money isn't? Fucking clown world.

[Anonymous No.53666273]

>>53665204
>ive watched every one of his interviews and the little kike always lies about what the fed is trying to do
Only one lying is (you) tranny.

[Anonymous No.53666595]

>>53665265
the reality will be swift deep crash, liquidity swaps pivot qe recovery and a few years of crabbing

[Anonymous No.53666694]

>>53660410
better go ahead and sell off all your brypto and stonks so I can long your emotional pussy panic sells

[Anonymous No.53666696]

>>53660484
PRICED IN DELUSIONAL FAGGOT BOBO FUCK!
SPY 500 Q2 2023
FUCK YOU NIGGER BOBO, SOFT LANDING IS COMING, INFLATION HAS PEAKED, DON'T FIGHT THE TREND, MARKET GOES ONLY UP FROM HERE.

[Anonymous No.53666722]

>>53664996
Weimar Germany time?

[Anonymous No.53666852]

>>53664996
All according to plan

[Anonymous No.53667861]

>>53660410
>markets will go blood red
Easy on the hyperbole. Things are headed down, no doubt, but I'm not sure this is the big one. Every time these markets tank, they somehow keep gaining back. January for example.

But yes, the big one is coming no doubt, and we need enough time for Biden to recover for the election.

[Anonymous No.53668243]

>>53660410
>1.5x - 2x short on everything is safe money.
But thanks for the SQQQ reminder.

[Anonymous No.53668290]

>>53664996
That's not how the Fed Fund's Rates work. A higher Fed Funds Rate just incentivizes big banks into parking their money into overnight Repo and other bonds to earn the new higher, risk-free yields versus parking their money into more risky equities just for a potentially equal or less return on their money.

[Anonymous No.53668326]

>>53665216
Dumping? We just had a massive bull run for an entire month. The bull rally this past month has priced in a 25 bps hike in January and a pause or even a rate cut for the coming months thereafter based on the idea that inflation is falling and QE can begin sooner rather than later. The problem is is that inflation is showing signs of coming in hotter now than it was back in November and December, and that could disrupt the current bull run. If CPI comes in hot, just as the unemployment rate did recently, JPow may hike another 50 bps instead of the anticipated rate pause or rate cut the market was pricing in this past month for the next FOMC. If CPI comes in hot and the markets begin anticipating a 50 bps hike for the next FOMC, the markets will start to tank and this bull run will end.

[Anonymous No.53668334]

exceptionally high-estrogen thread
why are all bears such feminine creatures?

[Anonymous No.53668494]

>>53668334
Why do Bull cucks continue to support and provide liquidity to scammy, overbloated tech companies and nationless ESG investment banks that look to fleece you of your money and ruin your life? Not to mention Bull markets in this cycle are horrible for inflation, yeah, you made a measly $1000 bucks off your stupid .10 OTM Call options this month, but your rent has gone up another $2000 bucks per month and your monthly grocery bill is now another $500 bucks per month. Yeah, great long term financial planning there, idiot. How does Larry Fink's dick taste in your mouth you submissive Bull market gimp? Why don't you just fucking buy Puts and make money on the way down? Is that too fucking hard for you, retard?

[Anonymous No.53669098]

>>53668494
because i do none of those things, i simply get rich, instead of waiting for a collapse that never came.

you should try it sometime. life's a lot better when you're rich.

[Anonymous No.53669507]

>>53660460
Whatever helps you sleep through the weekend, but oh boy, are you going to be disappointed.

[Anonymous No.53669522]

>>53665216
>we have been dumping for weeks

[Anonymous No.53669537]

>>53669522
>>53669522
>>53669522

[Anonymous No.53669559]

>>53665265
>the NPC’s on the left believe that economy is fine and we need to focus on social issues land climate change.
That's only the very wealthy ones. The poorer lefties are furious and while they don't blame leftist/inflationary policies, they are extremely angry in general. My condo's HOA announced that fire insurance is going to be jacked up by a mid six figures meaning our HOA fees will go up by $150 per month in a single year, approximately a 40% increase, and this is a thing that's happening increasingly in Caliwali. I can afford it because my income is high for the complex (basically the cheapest complex in an expensive nimby area), but this is going to gradually squeeze people making median-ish income out of their homes.

[Anonymous No.53669571]

>>53661886
Shut up and get a job. YOu millennials are so lazy.

[Anonymous No.53670847]

>>53668290
> An economist wrote this so it must be true
Higher rates causes higher inflation. Economists are always wrong

[Anonymous No.53670908]

>>53665204
>why wont he just say "we need people to lose their jobs to make it look like inflation is going away"
he does say that.

[Anonymous No.53670918]

Why are bears focusing on employment rate and not wages? Wage growth is down, that's all that matters. Less wage growth = less additional money for people to spend = less inflation. It's a good thing if employment stays strong but wages stop increasing like they have over the last couple years, that means the Fed achieved their soft landing and inflation will be tamed without mass layoffs and a recession.

[Anonymous No.53670980]

>>53666030
simmer down goy

[Anonymous No.53671010]

>>53668494
> gets called high estrogen
> responds with an essay about sucking dick

[Anonymous No.53671039]

>>53660410
BoE is the Bank of England right? As in the country that’s facing inflation at one of the worst levels due to its own fuckups? And who’s inflation rate is mainly it’s own fault and only really indicative of their issues?

[Anonymous No.53671050]

so DAN was right after all?

[Anonymous No.53671150]

>>53663938
Just look at the demographics. We are at the start of the shift in the support ratio and it's chaos. As the ratio shifts it will get worse. Boomers will demand the same living standards they always had, even as we move towards one retiree, one worker. They will refuse to compromise because they are inhuman.
Imagine working knowing your job is to keep one boomer somewhere in food, heating, clothing, holidays, cars, and entertainment, all during 30 years of retirement in their home. Meanwhile you get *nothing*. Ever. Forever.

[Anonymous No.53671155]

>>53664996
Defaults

[Anonymous No.53671187]

>>53666030
Credit issuance supports job creation which pulls labour demand above labour supply. This bids up labour creating wage rises. This means capital captures less surplus value. This means bastards get less free goods from labour.
Restricting credit creation destroys demand for labour, forcing labour demand under labour supply.
The conversation switches from
> Why should I work for
To
> Why should I give you a job
You're a commodity, like oil.

[Anonymous No.53671199]

>>53670918

[Anonymous No.53671253]

>>53668326
I don't think CPI is going to come in hot until we see natural gas prices rebound.

[Anonymous No.53671285]

>>53671187
it's always funny hearing the fed and economists in general speak of "labor force participants," as if abject wageslavery is a choice.

[Anonymous No.53671313]

>>53664996
Tell me how I know you’ve never laid eyes on the treasury receipts series

>>53668290
This anon is correct, anytime real yields are this high you are incentivized to park in safe yields

[Anonymous No.53671419]

>>53663938
I have 200k in savings and would struggle to maintain the payments on a mid tier car and house
us dollar is toilet paper

[Anonymous No.53671582]

>>53671419
And CAD is an even bigger joke