Im firing someone for the first time on Monday

[Anonymous No.53579997]

I feel like absolute shit

[Anonymous No.53580013]

>>53579997
What industry? Please tell me youre not my boss lmao

[Anonymous No.53580033]

>>53579997
Yikes. Don't do it then lol

[Anonymous No.53580061]

>>53579997
make it an interesting larp at least
what did he do to get fired as i am assuming mass layoffs would not be handled by one guy but the hr team

[Anonymous No.53580092]

You're a good boss, but a shitty capitalist. Assuming that they're being fired for things that aren't their fault (broader health of the company) you shouldn't make it personal.

[Anonymous No.53580106]

>>53579997
Tell him before monday you dumb fat fuck.
Id hate to come to work on monday and have my gay retard boss tell me I am fired.
Matter of fact, you fucking fat faggot, why not tell him now? Why hold off?

[Anonymous No.53580115]

>>53580013
Tech. A pretty small firm. I started suspecting one of my reports was falsifying data to make his performance look better. IT and HR both performed audits and confirmed basically everything I suspected. Now I have to go through with this or else upper management is going to put my ass on the line. He has three kids and a wife that doesn’t work. I just wish like hell I could go back a couple weeks and turn a blind eye and shut my fucking my mouth…

[Anonymous No.53580133]

>>53580115
Fuck that. He’s a lying bitch. If you didn’t catch him, it could be your ass on the line instead.

[Anonymous No.53580169]

>>53580133
I’m well aware I’m doing the right thing but it doesn’t make me feel any less like shit

[Anonymous No.53580201]

>>53580133
This, fuck him and his family.

[Anonymous No.53580219]

>>53580115
>Falsifying data to make his performance look better
Like what, exactly? What can you falsify? I work in a fairly large consulting firm so falsifying hours billed to clients for performance is real for me, but that wouldn't apply to tech so what are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.53580232]

>>53580115
>>53580219
I would give him a serious warning and long talk about it. I'm a weird boss though. What's the problem exactly?

[Anonymous No.53580241]

>>53580169

>Can't fire a liar defrauding you

How bout this? Fire him to prove you deserve your position of leadership in your firm, you fucking pussy.

[Anonymous No.53580250]

>>53579997
PROTIP: have a second manager in the room when he gets the bad news. It will help keep him from getting angry if he's outnumbered.

[Anonymous No.53580285]

It’s usually pretty easy to exit employees that are underperforming. They know it’s coming and as long as you don’t act like a total pussy, they’ll accept the new reality pretty quickly.

If he starts crying like a bitch or begs for his job you gotta hold the line and offer no leeway on the outcome. You’re actually respecting him as a fucking man by holding him accountable. If you didn’t hold him accountable and let him keep his job, it would mean he doesn’t know how to do his job and you think lesser of him as an employee and as a person.

[Anonymous No.53580293]

>>53580250
That’s been covered. I spent all morning in meetings with HR and legal going through the process

[Anonymous No.53580297]

>>53580285
>"You see, I'm actually doing you a favor by firing you. You should thank me."
Managers are sociopaths.

[Anonymous No.53580330]

>>53580297
If I don’t exit employees that fail to meet expectations after several interventions, it presents an unfair scenario for the top performers

[Anonymous No.53580367]

>>53579997
Nah, you have no idea what positive changes in their lives can result from you shitcanning them. I've been fired a number of times. The first time was startling, I'll admit, but the last times were just laughable and freeing. One's job isn't everything. If you really hate firing people, then get a job where you don't fire people. You never know how you might be liberating them.

[Anonymous No.53581785]

>>53580169
I'll tell you what my big boss told me the first time I had to fire someone:

"You didn't fire the employee. They fired themselves."

If they fucked around, didn't do the work they were paid to do, etc etc, and you as a manager did whatever you could to straighten them out to no avail, they fired themselves.

You're just delivering the news to them.

[Anonymous No.53581812]

>>53580115
ok phew you're middle lower management. I work for C level so not my problem at all. He'll recover and forget about it in 5 years who cares

[Anonymous No.53581819]

>>53581785
t. Soulless cock muncher

[Anonymous No.53581822]

>>53579997
I've fired hundreds of people over the years. I can't really think of one I still feel bad about. It's never fun but honestly I never fired anyone, they fired themselves. It was just my job to tell them that we aren't going to pay them anymore basically and not to come back.

[Anonymous No.53581857]

>>53581819
Oh go fuck yourself. I'm out to make money. If an employee isn't making us money, and isn't trainable to make us money, they've got to go.
If you can't wrap your head around this, you're never going to make it in life.

[Anonymous No.53581901]

>>53580106
Maybe he gets let off after this month.

[Anonymous No.53581915]

I feel you. I had to chew out one of my workers some weeks ago. His only fault was forgetting to close a door, but it led to a dangerous situation. He's a very meek old man in his 60s and he started crying in the middle of it.
I'm not made for this shit.

[Anonymous No.53581940]

>>53581857
What would you do with an employee that is trying really hard, but isn't successful?
Say he arrives on time, he reads sales books and practices his oratory skills on his free time, he tries his best, is always dressed in clean clothes and looks groomed and well put together, he is respectful to all coworkers and clients, but he just isn't selling

[Anonymous No.53581949]

>>53581915
What did you do when he started crying? Did you just keep on steamrolling him while he cried?

[Anonymous No.53581956]

>>53579997
>>53580115
>>53580169
>>53580293
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wj0zZdU6fE

[Anonymous No.53581968]

>>53581949
It honestly shocked me for a bit and made me pause what I was saying. I expected a lot of things but I could have never guessed he'd just start crying. My heart sunk and I toned down the reprimand, insisted on it not happening again and just left it at that.

[Anonymous No.53582004]

>>53581857
You're very sensitive. I didn't say your outlook was incorrect. You're still a monster though, so good luck with that.

[Anonymous No.53582052]

>>53581940
Learn to weld, thats what low IQ people do but they don't got much time left as everything that isnt tech-related will get automated, best they can hope for is UBI comes and then just live in their pods.

[Anonymous No.53582057]

>>53580201
Lol "fuck his kids, their fault for having a lying dad"

[Anonymous No.53582072]

>>53580169
>I’m doing the right thing
Keep telling yourself that. You should have went to him yourself and handled it

[Anonymous No.53582088]

>>53580367
How have you been fired more than once?

[Anonymous No.53582121]

Just do it. Millennials and zoomers have it too easy, lots of underperformers relaying on few good people of the same position and never getting fired because the job gets done.
Good thing we still can actually fire people in USA unlike Europeans

[Anonymous No.53582484]

I have been fired and am now a manager myself. I still think my old manager from 6 years ago made a mistake by firing me, and the company I'm a manager at now is their biggest competitor. It's my dream to one day, somehow, be in a position that irrevocably destroys that shitty manager who fired me years ago.

Anyway OP I firmly think people deserve warnings, etc. before you actually fire them. I wouldn't do it if I were you, but I'm not you I guess.

[Anonymous No.53582501]

>>53580115
Meanwhile I just got forced out of my job which I desperately needed while fighting health issues, did a slam dunk job but stepped on my managers toes, then after they cut my hours to nothing they told the UI board I quit suddenly without warning or reason.

I really fucking hate this world, OP will end up turning a blind eye to this anon and will likely bite him in the ass and the anon will get away with it.

[Anonymous No.53582576]

>>53582501
What's wrong with giving the guy a fucking warning and a chance to redeem himself?
Also I've read this thread and still don't understand how you can "falsify data to fake good performance" in tech.

[Anonymous No.53583213]

>>53581785

bootlicker. the moment your results diminish (may it be due to personal stress) your boss will fire you, aswell. with the very same justification.
capitalism has made you americans soulless bootlickers. in germany we call it elbow society

[Anonymous No.53583295]

>>53579997
Tell the cocksucka to take a hike and then go buy yourself some whisky, drink it.

[Anonymous No.53583517]

>>53579997
Just give them a first and final written warning instead.

[Anonymous No.53584679]

>>53582088
At first gradually, and then suddenly. I'm too autistic to care about dumb shit as much as the company wants me to, and I can only hide it for so long. My current job working from home is pretty fantastic, I'm willing to really try to fit in to keep this one, but that's a lot easier because of its remote nature.

[Anonymous No.53584727]

>>53581940
If it’s a sales position he likely isn’t making a sustainable living without the commissions. It’s in no one’s best interest to drag the situation out longer while he continues to suffer financially. You are doing him a favor by letting him go so he can either go find a non sales position, or go work for a company where he is a better fit for their products/services

[Anonymous No.53584877]

>>53580169
Tell him he can keep the job if he sends his wife over to yours for sex. Then fire him anyway.

[Anonymous No.53585097]

>>53581915
damn you must be a real dickhead

[Anonymous No.53585142]

>>53581940
In that hypothetical, try to find that guy another task that they can do well. If there's another job that they are able to do for you, something that clicks for them, they'll be very productive.

If you don't have that alternate job for them, and don't have anyone else that does, that you could do them a favor for by matching up this dedication with an appropriate job, then it's no longer within your arcs.

[Anonymous No.53585174]

>>53580092
Managers are not capitalists. They dont manage their own money and try to improve their own fortunes not the companies. Completely different set of incentives from an actual owner-boss

[Anonymous No.53585180]

>>53580115
Have you learned your lesson about noticing shit yet? Life gets a lot more pleasant when you ignore everything. The jews control the media, .gov, and finance, but it's better not to bring it up.

[Anonymous No.53585193]

>>53580219
>I work in a fairly large consulting firm
Very sorry for your loss, fren.
t. Consulting engineer, I'm going to kms.