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>> No.53484726
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53484726

It's over. Stocks will never go up again.

>> No.53484731
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53484731

SKYT
JXN
That’s all you need benchodes

>> No.53484732

Investing in stocks so I dont lose it all on gambling edition. Tomorrow I invest

My current idea
>600 META
>100 AMEX
>100 Alphabet A
>100 microsoft
>100 PEPSICO

>> No.53484734
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53484734

Sneed market general

>> No.53484737

>>53484734
https://vocaroo.com/1dPHtFrrTwlZ

>> No.53484741

Anon with love sex drive, Filipino gf from previous thread here. How do I become attractive and high in emotional intelligence?

>> No.53484750
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>>53484734
DR. ZAIUS, DR. ZAIUS

>> No.53484755
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more OC for /smg/
>Consumer spending comprises 70% of GDP. The retail and service industries are critical components of the U.S. economy.

>> No.53484760

>>53484112
This is the least shitty version of the tech HR roastie meme
> shows herself doing grunt work
> doesn’t spend the entire time eating
> has some idea what her company’s product is
> doesn’t pretend she goes out after work for crazy events, just “go home, pet my dog then play video games”
She should still be fired on principle because she’s an tech HR roastie, but I feel slightly bad for what’s going to happen to her

>> No.53484769

>>53484732
Why so much META? Why not spread it among other stocks to continue the collection, like KO, JPM, and another stress free one.

>> No.53484778

There are a few plays I am thinking of but I cant decide. The safest is probably buying BOIL.

>> No.53484787
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53484787

Which securities, futures or options do you trade most of the time?

>> No.53484804
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>>53484726
You could learn a thing or two from John.

>> No.53484810
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>>53484787
trade?

>> No.53484826
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>>53484804
All I learned is that this AI has been programmed to shill this ridiculously obvious Jewish bull trap

>> No.53484832

>>53484787
leveraged ETFs and penny stock pump and dumps are my bread and butter but Im broadening my horizons to include shorting individual stocks.

>> No.53484834

>>53484750
GET YOUR PAWS OFF ME, YOU DIRTY APE!

>> No.53484835

>>53484769
Its a gamble. As i said in a previous thread I think metaverse has more substance than normies think. Right now the normie concensus on the metaverse is "lol nothing is taking off right now its stupid". They cant see that the internet is getting a bit archaic and a shakeup is on the horizon. A centralised hub that provides an all encompassing experience is coming. For example in china theres super apps that provide everything, games, banking, chat, utilities, credit scores, general life applications all in one. I think the metaverse will be a bit like that. Companies are all battling to get the edge which makes everyone funnel into them. The metaverse is the conduit that will enable this to happen and its going to be powered by AI. Imagine right now we have things like chat bots that seem convincingly human, we have AI that can generate convincingly real pictures out of thin air, we're a few years away from AI being able to generate environments from text prompts. You're in VR with the boys, or even just in a windows application, and you type "business meeting on the mountains with sharks firing laser beams in a james bond style pit underneath the board room" and then you can have a business meeting in some crazy fantasy world. That would be enough draw to make people ditch Zoom and join META's conferencing software. You could type "draw a dynamic chart analysis from DATA X in STYLE z" and can create some crazy experience that would have taken a human £5000 worth of work to produce. Once that shit becomes mainstream the metaverse will draw in gamers, businessmen, mums, grandmas, and especially the younger generation into this hub and then they own the keys to the internet. Zucc knows this, hes putting everything hes got into aiming to be the leader of this future

>> No.53484838

>>53484755
You need to keep in mind that a good portion of /smg/ are actual yuropoors that have a crab-in-bucket mentality
They unironically want to see what few members of the middle class remain be knocked down to their level, because they’ve been conditioned over two millennia to acquiesce to the existence of the rich and powerful, but the thin remnants of the middle class infuriate them because it makes them realize how much they’ve failed in life

>> No.53484845

>>53484755
Now THIS is some techie cope.

>> No.53484854

>>53484835
>They cant see that the internet is getting a bit archaic and a shakeup is on the horizon
i miss webrings

>> No.53484861

>>53484741
>How do I become attractive?
Genetics, face, frame, height, social status, lifting, being rich.
>How do I become high in emotional intelligence?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathogen%E2%80%93entactogen

>> No.53484877
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53484877

What the fuck is even the point of day trading?
Like why not just trade options?

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>>53484845
>heh, sure feels good seeing all those real estate and loan agents laid off
>good thing this will never come back to affect me in any way whatsoever

>> No.53484896

>>53484731
SKYT chads lets go

>> No.53484903

>>53484732
>I dont lose it all on gambling edition.

>>53484835
>Its a gamble
You are going to lose it all. You're mentally deficient. Low IQ individuals always give it back, and you my friend are one of them. Good luck, you'll literally need it.

>> No.53484912
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>>53484755
good thing everybody need Oil

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>>53484861
I can narrow that down even more from personal experience. Basically just don't be fat and have hair. But the most important thing is to not have autism. If you have autism you might as well just go overseas and get a rural Asian girl because you'll never stand a chance in the west.

>> No.53484918

>>53484835
You’re actually right and “muh metaverse LOL” whining is peak Millennials transitioning into Boomers, except you’re missing one key detail: nobody likes Zucc’s metaverse because it’s engineered solely to serve Zucc’s interests, so it’s a bland sterile corporate hellspace
As absolutely unoptimized shit as it is, VRChat is running circles around Zucc because it gives people what they actually want, not what Zucc wants
There will be a company that makes it big in metaverse, but it’s not going to be META

>> No.53484922

>>53484755
>mfw my company's product is only sold to doctors
kek

>> No.53484926
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>>53484912
OIL

>> No.53484927

>>53484888
>>53484755
Millennials and Zoomers have been traumatized into being permabears because they've only seen serious recessions. However when you don't have major exogenous shit like lockdowns or trapdoor collapses of the entire financial system, recessions tend to be mild.

Laid off realtors will find spots behind cash registers, earnings and inflation will tick down for a couple quarters, and life will go on.

>> No.53484940

>>53484927
Tfw you have 3 once in a lifetime recessions before you’re middle aged

Good job boomers

>> No.53484947
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53484947

It’s fucking over. The fed whisperer has spoken. Limit down next week

>> No.53484951

>>53484927
I was quoting you in 2008, not 2023. Recessions are getting progressively worse because we're in civilizational decline. This isn't the 80s or 90s anymore.

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>>53484888
If my quality of life has to dip a little so the west coast can collapse, it's a small price to pay.

>> No.53484970
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53484970

Would you believe me if I told you we've been crabbing for 2 years?

>> No.53484971

>>53484927
>it's only been bad the last 25 years.
>it's not a trend.
>this time will be different
ok boomer

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>>53484947
pic related
on serious note though, any dip will be bought up. Longterm trend is in favour of restoring good market conditions and that's what matters.

>> No.53484992

The market will seriously dip when the next CPI comes out. FOMC will be a safe predictable event that wont shake the markets much. If youre going to short, short before CPI.

>> No.53484993

>>53484947
Good, inflation isn't under control and I'm glad the fed understands that unlike the media and people here. Most goods and services are still up like 300%. Keep tightening.

>> No.53484995

>>53484940
>>53484951
>>53484971
Pessimism fertilizes the soil for green shoots :)

>> No.53485002
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smggers I'm considering leaving crypto. I feel like you can just get the same risk/sector exposure in the stock market anyways. So why even hold coins? Anyone feel this way?

>> No.53485009

>>53484993
inflation is the RATE of price changes, retard. eggs can shoot to 15$ a dozen one year. if it drops to 14$ the next then they'll scream deflation. it's all part of the plan for wagies to get back in the cagie.
prices aren't coming back to normal.

>> No.53485010
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>>53484993
No half measures. They really ought to tighten to 7% and bring the CPI price levels back to, oh, the levels in 1990. Unfortunately no one at the Fed has the balls.

>> No.53485015

My portfolio is pretty shit and all over the place. Want to rebalance it from bitfarms and shit like that. $50k
I'm thinking $25k SCHD or JEPQ, $10k Visa, $10k Microsoft, $5k UPRO. is that bad?

>> No.53485029

>>53485002
you can make a lot of money in stocks with options and leveraged etfs. and the majority of stocks wont go to zero randomly either.

>> No.53485033

>>53484995
>here's a platitude to prove your decades of data to be incorrect

>> No.53485040

>>53485029
>leveraged etfs.

Even better many brokers offer these instruments with 0 fees and reasonable spreads compared to traditional stocks

>> No.53485044
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53485044

You fucking faggots ready for the omega dump?

>> No.53485052

>>53485009
The increases in inflation are why so many dropped out of the workforce. When things get so expensive they are unattainable, people give up and walk away. Your simpleton mind can't understand this apparently. If prices remain high things will get continuously worse not better. Unless their plans are to lose money, it makes no sense.

>> No.53485054

>>53485015
buy leaps on mara. btc is on a bullish trend and mara is shorted like 40%+ right now. if they can actually get 23 exahash by summer then it's gg no re.

>> No.53485059

>>53485002
Based. Welcome to the process of actually getting rich, rather than dreaming it. Lurk until you understand the basics.

>> No.53485063

>>53484947
The labor market will always be tight from now on because people aren't having kids.
Personally, I think it's based.

>> No.53485079

>>53485052
Companies will not lower prices. It won’t matter how much they tighten. They’ll just lay off people instead.
The price of a new car is never coming down. The price of most groceries are never coming down.

>> No.53485090

>>53485063
Actually it’s the opposite.
That’s why they’re trying to flood the US with immigrants. Won’t work but boomers don’t know that and Jews love replacing native populations.

>> No.53485093

>>53485044
go sell naked calls piece of shit

>> No.53485109

>>53485063
Unemployment numbers are completely fabricated anyway. 7 million millennials and zoomers have dropped out of the workforce. Since the governments crafty way of measuring labor statistics only includes people up until a certain point and then drops them off the statistic, it makes unemployment look way better than it really is.

>> No.53485110

>>53485033
The entirety of the 2010's disproves your thesis and were an excellent time for investors (people). Even wagies were doing alright by the mid 2010's. As for the COVID recession, markets and wages are both above where they were in 2019.

Heck, real GDP last quarter came in a tick below 3%. A typical recession will knock that down to an oh-so-traumatizing 0%. Like what we had at the beginning of last year. How terrifying.

>> No.53485135

>>53485079
They'll have no choice. People will just stop buying their shit. It's already happening and the fed thinks it will help calm inflation which I guess they're technically right. Companies will not suicide themselves like that.

>> No.53485138

>>53485054
I have 22k Bitfarms shares, you're saying I should convert to Mara?

>> No.53485145
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>>53484755

>> No.53485157

how severe will the dump be come fomc?

>> No.53485183

>>53484755
I'm starting to think this poster is a bull making terrible memes to mock bobos. Literally every picture you've made has just made bears look even dumber.

>> No.53485194

This SKYT shilling is getting embarrassing. Do better.

>> No.53485201

>>53485183
what part of my argument do you disagree with
what do you find dumb - I am open to discussion
I have not had a single mumu offer a rebuttal other than
>you're wrong!
>you're dumb!

>> No.53485205

>>53485110
Gdp won't magically stay positive if no one can borrow, people stop spending and lose their jobs.

>> No.53485209

>>53485157
SPY going to 330

>> No.53485219

>>53485201
The market doesn't move based on any of the shit in your memes, it moves purely to cause maximum pain. Everyone is bearish so we will continue pumping, once the SPX is above 5000 the majority might finally be bullish and we can have a small correction. I assume you actually believe all the news and info matters to the market as most bears do.

>> No.53485224

>>53485209
And then will proceed to dump to sub 200 as time passes. Dems have to make sure to leave a fucking mess to clean up on the way out

>> No.53485235

>>53485194
>NOOOO YOU CANT POST INDIVIDUAL TICKERS YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE NEXT FED MEETING
Genuinely fuck off.

>> No.53485241

>>53485205
Except people and businesses have exceptionally strong balance sheets, and credit spreads are benign. So unless we see 10m barrels of oil taken off the market, the treasury default, or an asteroid hit Texas, we're heading into a bog-standard, non-financial-crisis recession that knocks 2-3% off peak GDP.

>> No.53485252

Anyone see that hindenburg report on Adani? Indians are seething lmao.

>> No.53485253
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>>53485109
So you're saying real unemployment is really closer to 1.5-2% higher than what it is currently and I missed my storage entry? Shit, I completely forgot about people moving back in with their parents and storing their shit in their basement. Ooooo my public storage thesis ain't looking too hot anymore.

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>>53485209
>>53485224
and then zero

>> No.53485262

>>53485219
>fundamentals don't matter
>the market moves higher to inflict pain
>everyone is bearish
all 3 of these statements are extremely wrong

>> No.53485267

>>53485209
>330
Retard.
>>53485224
>200
Take your meds, seek help.

>> No.53485270

>>53485194
SKYT has been shilled since its IPO.

>> No.53485288

>>53485262
The majority of retail and institutions are bearish. The market moves just like shitcoins do, purely to extract the most money from people. You can just go browse finance twitter or stock r*ddit to see that everyone is bearish.

>> No.53485299

>>53485219
All the news says we've broken out and in a new bull market. Meanwhile the jews are sitting on their cash piles. Why didn't they put it in the rally? You think euphoric permabulls know something jews don't? That they're late to the party and retail is the new market makers? How can you be late to a party when it's at your house and you're sitting on all the kegs?

>> No.53485302

>>53485138
eh nah.. stick with bitfarms. at least you could probably see a large upside like 10x in the next year or so when the halving event nears giving the price of bitfarms right now. i just think mara is going to be extremely volatile in the upcoming months. you could probably play some on mara and take your earnings back to bitfarms

>> No.53485307

>>53485253
Government says national unemployment is at 3.5% which is such complete bullshit that I audibly laughed. I would argue it's closer to 10%. Probably 1 out of every 10 people of working age are unemployed either willfully or involuntarily

>> No.53485316

>>53485288
>The majority of retail and institutions are bearish
they aren't.
>look at social media, people are bearish on social media!
or, you know, you could actually look at positioning and flows
you could look at option activity
you could look at short volumes
but nah, looking at shitposts on stocktwits is definitely a better gauge

>> No.53485319

>>53485299
>all the news is bullish
This is why discussing the market with bobos is impossible, you literally invent bullshit in your head. The news is borderline permabearish.

>> No.53485320

>>53485267
>calls you a retard but doesn't voice his prediction like a huge faggot

>> No.53485327

>>53485241
>knocks 2-3% off peak GDP
That's not 0 then is it.

>> No.53485330

>>53485320
SPX will be 5000 by March, April at latest.

>> No.53485332
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>>53484838
Eurocucks are the absolute worst slave mentality. A million times worse than any gook bitch.

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>>53485054
What do you think of $BTCM?

>> No.53485348

>>53485270
Been posting since way before its IPO. SKYT wasn't even mentioned here until around 4 weeks ago. Its a legit company now anyways.

>>53485299
>sitting on cash piles
Did you not see the amount of buying they put in when SPY hit its lows? Do you honestly think that they'd release articles telling the truth to retail?

>>53485252
India is uninvestible. Too much fraud and its culture supports scams.
Its better to just invest in American companies that outsource some manufacturing there if you want any India exposure.

>> No.53485366

>>53485348
>SKYT wasn't even mentioned here until around 4 weeks ago.
Youre an obvious newfag.

>> No.53485371

>>53485348
>SKYT
it was talked about alot around IPO
why isnt it profitable?

>> No.53485376

>>53485235
With each and every post, you further beclown yourself and the 4 fig SKYT position that you've been shilling so hard.
It's not a crime to hold a position in even the stinkiest turd of a company, but to spam the same ticker every single thread and insert it into conversations without relevance is quite pathetic.
You bring much shame to your village. Bhenchods far and wide turn their gaze to laugh at you.

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>>53485330
LMFAO

>> No.53485391

>>53484715
When opening a brokerage account is there any reason to choose a taxable or tax-advantaged account (IRA)?

>> No.53485393

>>53485330
Meds. NOW!

>> No.53485403

>>53485377
>>53485393
You guys didn't buy when SPX was 3500 and was down 40%+ adjusted for inflation, you'll literally never buy. Probably waiting for some absurd number like 2000, bitch ass bobos.

>> No.53485413

>>53485307
>10%
That numbers sounds even more off kilter than the gov's numbers, albiet the only unemplyment they care about is how much they have to pay out. If you start counting the homless/neet/hoes as unemployed then it's probably more like a high 5%. The question that still needs answering is how are these people are still alive? Sure the homeless can steal food and not pay for their tents, but what do the neets do? Neetbux don't afford you much if you can even get on them. What are the numbers for neetbux?

>> No.53485428

>>53485391
Tax advantaged accounts have deposit + withdrawl restrictions in exchange for better taxation.

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>>53485391
yes

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>>53485330

The real bull market isn't coming back till the money printers do. The Fed says they don't target money supply, but they do. The cattle aren't supposed to know money supply drives everything. They target a specific fixed curve of nominal exponential growth (same % yoy), which in turn drives steady, predictable inflation.

You can literally see the trajectory they're on is aiming for M2 growth to resume late 23 to early 24. There's no bull market till we touch that line again, or they pivot to higher CPI targets. Meanwhile we deflate.

>> No.53485441

>>53484810
I need to protect some of my stocks with put options. Now I wonder if anyone here actually makes money trading such instruments.

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>>53485403
False.

>> No.53485452

>>53485437
>Doing TA on the M2 chart
This shithole is the worst finance forum on the internet.

>> No.53485454

>>53485441
>Now I wonder if anyone here actually makes money trading such instruments.
i haven't ever seen a bear with an account over 5 figures

>> No.53485462

>>53485428
Thanks, sounds like the tax advantaged one is used more for retirement while a normal account is used for general investing.

>>53485433
Yeah the question was worded poorly.
Was trying to understand in general why someone would choose one over another and the reasons for doing so.

>> No.53485468

>>53485366
>>53485371
>obviously a newfag.
If it was mentioned it was not talked about much. I'm sorry that you're too schizo to believe me.

>why isn't it profitable
I'm not going to answer such a stupid fucken question for a new company, kek.
You're both probably samefagging anyways. The hate for SKYT is weird and obsessive.

>>53485441
Nobody here uses puts they way they are supposed to be used, as defensive measures.

>>53485253
Tell me about your public storage REIT.

>> No.53485483

>>53485403
I still think 3150-3200 is still possible, but I've been buying since 3600. Below 3K would be 1/3 of the way down into the 'rona crash, which I don't see unless another major financial meltdown happen again, at which point we'd likely drill to the bottom third of the 'rona crash. Remember that repo fail in 2019 that spurned the initial QE? I think some people are still nervous about that.

>> No.53485486

>>53485413
>what do NEETs do
This is the question that keeps the NEET silent. The truth of the matter is a lot of NEETs live with their parents and leech off of them while simultaneously blaming boomers for everything and making fun of people with jobs despite the fact their boomer parents with jobs support their lifestyle. They gaslight their parents into thinking they are guilty for how they ended up despite the fact they are just lazy autistic losers with no goals or motivations. Just sitting in the dark all day playing video games posting "kek wagie" all day.

>> No.53485489

How long till gold futures open?

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>>53485452

It is but I try help you niggers because you make me laugh sometimes.

>> No.53485504

>>53485462
Yeah they're more for retirement, but they still have their uses. For an IRA apparently you can take up to 10K out for a house payment with no penalties.

>> No.53485512

>>53485489
5pm CST, so about 4 hours, 15 minutes from now: https://www.cmegroup.com/trading-hours.html

>> No.53485516

>>53485504
Interesting, I'll read up on them some more.

>> No.53485530

>>53485307
Yes, probably 30%+ for males under 30.
But the gov's number is the important one. If you aren't looking for work you aren't pushing wages down.

>> No.53485532

>>53485468
SKYT is dogshit anyway

>> No.53485545
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What is the general consensus the Fed will raise the interest rate either by .25 or .50?

>> No.53485561

>>53485532
I have no money in it, but it looks like a solid company. Good enough to get several million in government contracts. Thinking of buying some long term options in it.

What's wrong with it?

>> No.53485562

>>53485468
>Tell me about your public storage REIT.
It's Sunday morning so I'll post out the whole thing again.
STORAGE REITS
You see those rows and rows of storage units every time your drive to the wrong part of the city. Well soon will be the time to start making money off those. NO, don't go bid on someone's crap via auction. Have someone's crap pay you instead! With layoffs already beginning, economic cool down on the horizon, and mortgage rates almost tripling from the low, public storage is the place to be! New home buyers will have been buying more and more crap to stick in their houses. If they end up getting cut as part of the mass layoffs happening they may lose their house. Where will all that crap go? The consoomer couldn't possibly fathom getting rid of his brand new, 15 foot mega giga bad dragon dong dildo, but he can't stick it in his car (AKA new home). Think also to all the boomers flocking to sell the top of the housing market to retire to some small shit shack in a tax free state. Where will all their crap go? Their wonderful, nostalgic memorabelia, collected over decades of the good times. It sure won't go for sale on craigslist/ebay/rakuten.
1/4

>> No.53485571
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>>53485545
consensus is 0.25

>> No.53485572

>>53485562
ENTER PUBLIC STORAGE
These people, rich and poor alike, will all buy storage units for their crap.
>Surely this down turn is temporary, right?! I gotta save all my junk for when the good times are back and I can put it in my new home.
But the good times won't come back. They'll keep paying that monthly fee to house their stuff that they're so attatched to. And that monthly fee will go straight to your pocket! Due to the tax nature of REITs they must pay out excess profit as dividends. FAT dividends, all while their stock prices go up and up due to the influx of business. Storage units tend to be in junky parts of cities. On the outskirts, industrial districts, and the middle of nowhere fields. This keeps costs generally low as they don't have to pay out the ass for prime locations.
>But anon, the land valuations on those areas won't go up. That means storage REITs will depreciate faster than other REITs.
True, the land storage units go on sucks. But who cares? They aren't trying to sell the land or be accessible. If you're hauling stuff out to a unit you need a car (often a truck) anyways. Metal storage sheds don't need much to thrive. Just a solid foundation and some sheet metal to keep those downtrotten posession safe.
2/4

>> No.53485581

>>53485545
they are going to raise by 25
but this doesn't matter - what matters is their guidance for future raises, and when they will cut rates. bank of canada came out and said the words
>not even thinking about thinking about cutting rates
which makes it more likely that the Fed will say something along these lines, which the market will not like. anything that changes the timeline of rate cuts or the terminal rate

>> No.53485582
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53485582

>>53485572
UNEMPLOYMENT'S EFFECT
You would think that rising unemployment would cause the line to go up for public storage, however past data does not confirm that at all. Rising unemployment happens when the economy as a whole is taking a dump, so these companies don't do so hot either. Once unemployment levels off is when the real magic starts kicking in. Think of rising unemployment as the accumulation phase, except in this case storage companies are accumulating other people's stuff. As employment starts picking up again many of these people have already grown accustomed to having a unit, so they keep it despite the fact that they could grab all their stuff. Why? Because they've accumulated MORE STUFF! The consoomer must consoom, so they keep the unit with all their junk in it and put new junk in their new residence. You can only buy more stuff when you are employed, which I think is why unemployment going down causes units to finally start picking up.
3/4

>> No.53485587

>>53485391
Generally tax advantaged accounts have a hefty penalty if you withdraw the money before retirement for an unqualified reason, otherwise growth is tax free. Depends on the type of IRA whether money going in or coming out has the tax advantage. Employer sponsored retirement plans are limited to mutual funds, so if you leave a job you can roll a 401k into an IRA and have broader investment opportunities.

Taxable accounts you can do whatever you want as long as you pay your dues to the money mafia. You also don't have to worry about retirement rules changing before you retire. Decades ago social security income wasn't taxed, but now it is. Any rule the gov sets can be changed. An obscure benefit of taxable accounts is you can claim foreign income tax credits on equities where taxes are taken by foreign govs. Those taxes are taken out regardless of where you hold the equities, but in a tax free account you won't be able take advantage of the foreign tax credits to recoup them.

>> No.53485602

>>53484787
Certain medical Penny stock. It bounces from 9 to 15 cents. I dump a few hundred dollars and sell it when it goes up

>> No.53485612
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53485612

okay which excuse will they use tomorrow to justify another rally?

>> No.53485615

>>53485602
SIGA
I
G
A

>> No.53485627
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>>53485582
TICKERS
Personally I am not going to start DCAing into storage until unemployment is higher (at least 5.5-6%. I broke this and got some LSI/NSA/CUBE around 3.5%). Here are the picks I have looked over in the sector:
EXR - Second in mkap to PSA, but has overtaken it in terms of growth. Decent looking balance sheet. Seems like the best of the bunch.
PSA - Largest in mkap. Also has exposure to Europe via Euronext Brussels:SHUR. Balance sheet less good on this one than EXR, but they have the most locations.
CUBE - Has done pretty good with growth in the past. Seems more like they target transient movers (college students) over hoarders.
LSI (Formerly Uncle Bob's) - Seems pretty mediocre. Not a lot exciting looking over their site + balances. Won't do horribly, won't do too well.
NSA - This one seems to be an umbrella for many third party storage companies and specifically markets themselves as a trust. The newest of the bunch with good growth and a strong divvy.
SELF - This one SUCKS. Big stinky microdick crap. Barely recovers when it dips. It does have the largest dividend of the bunch at 4.45%, but maybe they should lower it and use the extra money to make their business better.
SVI (TODO research) - Canadian company. Own most of the market share.

And that's my storage spiel. It'll be a several year hold to see the big gains, made all the easier by those solid dividends along the way.
4/4

>> No.53485636

BOIL or go fuck yaself

>> No.53485667

>>53485612
Zoom out. Pigs get slaughtered.

>> No.53485677

>>53485612
>which excuse will they use tomorrow
green line is fun

>> No.53485682

>>53485441
you can make money selling puts to people like you

>> No.53485703

>>53485636
I got some natural gas for you to buy right here.

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>>53485562
>>53485572
>>53485582
>>53485627
kek this is so fucking autistic, Im in.
thanks anon

>> No.53485713

>>53485612
>CNN: why the classified documents in biden's home are actually a good thing and bullish for the stock market
>SPY +5%

>> No.53485735

>>53485627
NSA and EXR have caught my attention. I may add some tomorrow, I'd rather get in early than late.
Excellent DD. I shall add them to my portfolio. I now have:
JXN, SKYT, ARCC, ZIM, MSFT, and soon to add these two.
Do you guys have any other suggestions?

>> No.53485743

>>53484903
I'd argue that I'm going to be fine but my track record dictates that I'll likely hit financial difficulty and I'll have to liquidate my stocks meaning It'll probably be sold at a loss. I will do anything by any means necessary to ensure I dont run out of money and have to sell my stocks. Im investing £1k tomorrow and will try increase my backing

>> No.53485755
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53485755

BOBOS POST MEME LINES NOW!!!!!!!!

>> No.53485768

>>53485755
My God...the bull market is screwed if we can't get SPY above 120.

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53485770

>>53485288

Shut up retard. This rally is literally all retail foaming at the mouth for “muh soft landing!!!! “Front run fed!!!!” “Fed put free money like every other time!!!!”

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53485777

>>53484715

Anons your participation needed, post opinions and habbenings

Global Hyperinflation General /GHG/ >>>/pol/414115035

>> No.53485807

>>53485770
Retail doesn't move the markets.

>> No.53485824

>>53485770
But Powell did achieve the soft landing, inflation is almost back to 2% annualized. The Fed also already said 2 more 25 bps hikes and then pause, a pause is a pivot. At this point bobos are the ones fighting the fed and you know the saying, don't fight the fed.

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>>53485755

>> No.53485827

>>53485561
Just at a glance:
>negative gross(!) margins last year
>despite having no profits, sales are not growing all that fast to make up for it
>a non-negligible amount of debt to service while being unprofitable
I don't know when you expect this company to be consistently profitable and what sort of margins you can realistically hope for, but are you sure you aren't just donating to the local science fair?

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53485833

>>53485489

>futures

For the time being, let's just enjoy the silence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jBmIR4w6hw

>> No.53485872

>>53485735
I reaaallly reallllly wanted to go balls deep when they all made fresh lows back in September/October. Main reason I did not was because I was still figuring out how to properly position size and scale in. I have a better understanding of how to do that now so the (hopefully) next opportunity won't go unpatronized.

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>>53485777

>> No.53485881

>>53485346
avoid. i don't particularly like chinese stocks because the sentiment and fucking china. doesn't mean you can't make money from it

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53485885

>>53485807

Their option buying 0/1DTE calls does, retard boy. Go back to the 90s, boomer. TSLA is part of the indices and moves them up, triggering more short covering-squeezing, causing VIX crush, causing more call buying, etc etc.

>> No.53485889

>>53485703
Based Henry Hub worker.

>> No.53485890

>>53485827
If your only criticism is they're non profitable, they are on their way to being profitable. They're a new company and they're getting their shit together fast. They beat last earnings by a good amount.
I'm not sure what you're obsession with SKYT is anon but I'm sorry. The world isn't ending, the market will go up, and you should find stocks that benefit from the chips act.

>>53485824
Bingo. We have a winner.

>> No.53485896

>>53485885
>Their option buying 0/1DTE calls does, retard boy.
Sorry, institutional players have even taken over there.

>> No.53485902

>>53485824
>a pause is a pivot
That will cause spy to bounce off 3200 where it is headed next before the real crash when the fed literally pivots coz it put the economy in the shitter.

>> No.53485912

>>53485885
The more I read bear posts like this, the more I am convinced the bear market is over.
You guys are as disillusion as euphoric bulls in early 2022. You are screaming "return to normal" but in reverse.
Do you even listen to yourself? Retail is moving the market because some of them are buying some options? Are you retarded?

>> No.53485923

Is the Iran thing something or just another case of nothing ever happens

>> No.53485931

>>53485824

450 bps of hikes are literally not even in the economy yet, imbecile. Congrats on defeating the big scary first 25 bps hike!!!

Core inflation is 6% and with labor/ tightness/commodity prices, an argument could be made that CPI has BOTTOMED (Cleveland fed says CPI goes UP from here)

> The Fed also already said 2 more 25 bps hikes and then pause

Yet the market is pricing in CUTS for the 2nd half of the year? So why are you fighting the fed? You say the fed will pause, yet markets are rallying from pricing in literal cuts. If you’re bullish you’re fighting the fed, you’re ok with that right?

>> No.53485939
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53485939

YANG gang? Anyone know when the Chinese housing market is collapsing? I bought some 2/17 0.30 call options. Should I be worried? I hate trade china whenever I can.

>> No.53485943

>>53485931
Nice spacing newfag.

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53485951

>>53485827
There last several earnings call didn't look terrible to me? I mean, I could be missing something... there upcoming one is on the 13th. isn't there net profit margin up since last year? Not trying to be a newfag, but I am kind of one.

Also, I hear 'semiconductor' and I feel bullish. Like I said, they received government contracts as a small-is company, and already announced plans to expand into Indiana with a new facility. Idk man, just seems like a good long term hold to me.

>> No.53485962

>>53485939
Didn't it already get bailed out? I am bagholding because I figured Xi Ping would pivot regarding the restriction loosening. All I know now is he better do something dumb soon or I'm in a world of hurt.

>> No.53485965

>>53485881
They're moving some operations to Ohio, after a year and a half in limbo. Did a reverse stock split earlier this year too. Already 2xed. Ramping up a new facility.

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53485972

Yikes... I have high blood pressure
Not as bad as that anon who went to the hospital, but I guess I need to start exercising again

>> No.53485978

>>53485931
Bobos are losers, I'm a winner.

>> No.53485989

>>53485923
The latter. Both sides are bitchmade and not going to do anything.

Now the 80's tanker wars. That was a fun time.

>> No.53486013

>bought a 5 lb pork shoulder roast
>just been carving at it every day
>making all kinds of stuff with it since its got good fat distribution
fuck bros hearing it sizzle in the skillet before tossing it with a teriyaki sauce was delectable to the nose

>> No.53486018

>>53485943

Mad that your 12k SOXL position that you’re already -28% down on is about to go down to -70%?

>>53485912

> Retail is moving the market because some of them are buying some options? Are you retarded?

>wat is gamma squeeze

Are you fucking retarded LMAO? Did you start “”””investing”””” before the GameStop debacle? Options buying 10000% influences markets. Market makers have to run delta neutral, when when retard Reddit fags pile in calls or puts, there is a definitive reaction function

>> No.53486050

>>53486018
I don't own SOXL. Option buying DOES influence markets. Retail option buying DOES NOT influence overall markets to any relevant degree.
I'm sorry, but nobody is taking you bobos seriously anymore.

>> No.53486053

>>53486018
the idea that you base your macro investing strategies off of whether some forum board is trending a ticker shows your ineptitude for this here game. Go buy some LFAP and help your people

>> No.53486096

>>53486050

>but nobody is taking you bobos seriously anymore.

What’s the point of doing all this when your returns are such dogshit? Why are you into “stocks” when your performance is such ass? Like what’s the point when you open your brokerage account and are -46% from your highs? Why not just stick to your day job?

I’m saying this because when faced with actual empirical and objective evidence, your emotions make you act like a teenage bitch on her period? Why is that? Because you’re quite obviously holding big ass bags underwater, and the thought of the market going down HORRIFIES you, because all you want is to break even. You’re an emotional and dumb faggot that went short at 365 and long at 405

>> No.53486131
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53486131

holy shit, guys, stop fighting

>> No.53486134

>>53485545
Consensus seems to, delusionally, be 0.25

>> No.53486137

>>53485890
>They beat last earnings by a good amount.
That's one way to describe "didn't lose quite as much money as expected".
I don't know why you would invest in a gamble like this. There is nothing special about what they are doing; any of their technologies are being done better at an established company like TSMC.
Even just as a smell test, when somebody tries to profit from the "Software as a Service" trend by describing their business model as "[blank] as a Service", that's them trying to lure in suckers that will fall for the hype.

But you do you, my friend. To me this seems like the newest iteration of mutant fish or Don's waste disposal company.

>> No.53486140

>>53485965
yeah but isn't every miner stock ramping up production? i don't see why would you choose BTCM over anything not china fingerfucking regulated stock.

>> No.53486142

>>53486131
thats the whole point of the thread, discussing points and counter-points.

>> No.53486147

>>53486053

It’s not my thesis, nice straw man 85 IQ faggot.

The claim was:

>retail is bearish!!!!!

I posted evidence that retail is bullish

Then the goal posts moved to

>retail doesn’t move markets!!!

I explained that frenzied call buying, even from retail, 100% moves markets

I don’t post in these threads because you are all on average like 90 IQ mouth breathers. Like you don’t m low what’s going on, you think you do, but you’re actually just apes. Can’t wait for next week. Knowing how low your IQ is, I’ll sleep well knowing none of the faggot Reddit perma bulls bought hedges for this week; because you’re a fucking loser lol

>> No.53486175

Any strategy to not DRIP and put divvies into other equities?

>> No.53486219

>>53486140
ARBK I have a few shares in. What would you recommend?

>> No.53486242

>>53486142
no its about stacking up gains to own the means of 2d waifu reproduction

>> No.53486266

>trying to study for Price Theory of Economics exam
>get study room
>smell something
>its weed
>I get up, walk around
>see another study room a few rooms down
>dude is blazing it

I'm going to call the police on him.

>> No.53486280

>>53486266
Sounds like you ought to rather ask him for a couple tokes.

>> No.53486308
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>>53486266
holy based

>> No.53486313

>>53484835
meta will always be burdened with privacy concerns. they have fucked people so much in the past that no company is going to trust their secrets with them

>> No.53486330

i hate that im holding oil in my portfolio, i just want to buy shit and hold forever, not try to time and sell before the peak of a commodity cycle

>> No.53486355

>>53486137
When analyzing the value of a company simply looking at the net revenue for one quarter or even one year is not good enough. You want to analyze their returns over a long period of time. A company can still be valuable and be negative in net profit as long as they are constantly generating more profit than the week/month/year prior that is all that matters.

>> No.53486375
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>>53486219
volatility - mara
large following and has no debt - riot
etfs - any bitcoin etfs like bito, WGMI, or the valkryie one
speculation with large upsides - bitfarms, and hut8

can't find a more recent comparison but if you want "fundamentals"
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4482079-sizing-up-17-bitcoin-miners-2022
just stay away from chinese own crypto miner stocks like BTCM

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>>53486266
faggot. Its biggots like you who discriminate against hard working Americans. If he was drinking booze, you wouldn't raise a peep. Tell me your a mentally ill faggot without saying you are a mentally ill faggot.

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53486396

>>53486330
You are becoming enlightened.

>> No.53486397

they've got no right to close forex trading it should not be allowed

fake internet money is trading against fiat at this very second, but i have to wait another 2 hours to trade pictures of george washington against pictures of the late queen elizabeth II, where is the logic

>> No.53486418

>Revenues dropping 40% or more
>Still further weakness ahead
>Market still pumping without a clue
the spy is too damn high, lower it

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53486422

>>53486397

>he's not going long pictures of Best President

NGMI

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53486441

>>53486418
YINN is too damn high. Can the Chinese invade Taiwan now? please and thank you.

>> No.53486459

>>53486441
the yen is too damn low
raise it

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>>53484715
How to I make a chart like this on Excel? What is this called? It's not exactly a Likert chart.

The goal is to plot each variable/dimension and assign a percentage. The graph would show the name of the variable and the percentage on a scale

>> No.53486583

fuck bros even a scuffed teriyaki sauce is delectable. MY YELLOW FEVER IS RISING

>> No.53486647

>>53485252
what it really proves is the lack of connection between stock value and the actual company

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>>53486396
I love this old geezer so much

>> No.53486715
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53486715

>>53486536
Best I can think of is a horizontal "100% Stacked Bar" chart. Just enter your values in the column A, and use a formula for column B of "=1-A1"

>> No.53486722
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53486722

WOOP WOOP
PULL UP
PULL UP
WOOP WOOP

>> No.53486723

Anyone else in MARA and RIOT? Shits about to pump tomorrow

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53486776

>>53485743
Have you considered going all in on 5SPY?

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53486783

Is WWE going down to the dirt because of evil saudi overlords? Or will it be better since it wont be woke?

>> No.53486844

>>53485110
They lower the inflation adjustment on GDP numbers to fluff it up. Now GDP only shows how much we're inflating per quarter

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53486858

>futures

>> No.53486883

>>53486722
this is proofs of the only fans thot bubble collapsing btw.
simps are tapped out

>> No.53486885

>>53486266
>Price Theory of Economics exam
>guy blazing it
>calling the cops
You could wrote about the price theory of the blackmore and how they differ from the legal consumer actor. And you had the perfect person to ask questions. No, instead you called the cops because a cuck like you doesn't know good weed when he smells it. Someone like you doesn't deserve to have dubs

>> No.53486893

>>53486722
What is this and how do I make money off it?

>> No.53486946
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53486946

Are you guys worried? I feel like we're on the break of a complete collapse of the US economy. Powell got us into this mess by printing money and saying "inflation isn't a big deal lol". Now we're going to raise interest rates to trigger a recession to slow down inflation. Why is this retard still Chairperson of the federal reserve? He's completely mismanaged this entire thing.
Seems really coincidental that BRICS is about to start trading their gold backed currency, at a point where it's clear fiat is unstable and fundamentally flawed?

How do I profit from this? How do I not die of starvation in the coming months?

>> No.53486964

>>53486946
The answer is The Double Dollar and nuking 3 Gorges Dam

>> No.53486985

>>53486723
Bullish for future futures.

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53486996

>>53486964
>The Double Dollar

>> No.53487030
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53487030

>>53486946
We are witnessing the deliberate and systematic destruction of Western civilization. Prepare yourself accordingly.
When these people finally install their new global order, it will look nothing like anything that came before it and there will be nothing afterwards that looks different from it.

>> No.53487055

>>53487030
Yes, but every time something like this happens the people that get in on it early go from rags to riches. People are not talking about this shit but it's clear this is exactly what's happening. How do I get rich off it?

>> No.53487060
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53487060

I'd buy some volatility hedges if i were you. But you're not me.

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53487070

>>53484715
Alright so we buy bank puts and spy calls after the announcement of .25bps? Any others stocks to buy. My son Jack has been doing wonders for me lately hopefully someone can suggest me a similar stock

>> No.53487072

>>53487060
What do you mean by volatility hedge? Like commodities?

>> No.53487086

>>53486715
I'll try that. Thanks

>> No.53487087

>>53487072
Lol.

He doesn't know what I mean.

When I say.

Volatility hedge.

>> No.53487094

>>53487072
like UVIX

>> No.53487137

>>53486946
> blah blah when moon I suddenly care about the Federal Reserve now that I’m not an investing genius blah blah
Bernanke and Yellen got us into the position we’re in from over a decade of free money, Uber and GrubHub didn’t suddenly appear in 2020 anon
Black Betty Man is going off script now out of desperation, you can tell he’s pissing off the financial elite because of how badly they’re demanding a pivot each new meeting which he refuses to give them
He’s the closest to a Volcker figure that we could have gotten, given how completely and utterly rotten our economy has become

>> No.53487169

>>53487072
fr fr on jah one hunnid no cap, you are asking a good question

vol hedge just means you prepare for when things go batshit

vol hedges can be things like buying VIX calls (did NOT work in 2022) or buying SPY puts (worked in 2022 but would've raped you in 2021) or buying /VX calls (worked if you sold calendar spreads or did vertical spreads in 2022), or buying some derivative products like UVXY, VIXY, etc (these are just memes that work when tail events / tails options get bid up)

OR IT MEANS YOU FUCKING just short betashits. idk short things like NVDA etc etc etc. just short beta

lots of people in 2022 sold s&p 500 puts while short selling s&p 500 shares

so they VRP harvest while short delta 1

at the end of the day the term "volatility hedge" is just a virgin faggot term for saying you're hedging against the market suddenly going in one direction

most years that would mean going down suddenly, but i guess in bobo market vol hedges are now upside volatility, not downside vol exclusively

>> No.53487196

>>53487072
buying vol also more specifically means buying options that profit when the market becomes volatilite. if you want a pure long vol structure you can buy ATM Straddles expiring at an expiry of your choice

a straddle profits on both wild upside and downside market movement. as long as the price action is above or below a certain range

>> No.53487210

>>53487055
You won't. The people who are already rich will become richer. People like you will be legally prohibited from buying anything so it won't matter how much money you make. The end game is here and we already lost ten rounds ago.

>> No.53487238

>>53487169
>>53487196
I see, thanks for explaining anon. It makes sense, we are living in a very turbulent market.

>> No.53487260

>>53487238
Do you think if we cuddled each other during a volatile market period, it would help ease our minds? In other words, do you think sitting on my lap and me stroking your belly like a creepy Indian uncle is a "volatility hedge"? Does it comfort you (hedging helps you sleep at night as does your Indian uncles hand rubbling your body)

>> No.53487264

INTL market-to-book ratio is currently 1.1, is this an interesting buying opportunity?

>> No.53487268

>>53486375
appreciate the feedback dude

>> No.53487272

>>53487260
Cuddling does make me feel good and safe. But only with cute girls, sorry anon.

>> No.53487283

Is this tap water fucked up?

>> No.53487292

>>53487272
>>53487272
Would it be a "volatility edge" if i was your big fat hairy indian uncle with a giant rotund beer belly burping into your ear so hard your hair ruffles a bit as you were sitting on my lap?

>> No.53487298

>>53487283
its got fluoride in it so yes.

>> No.53487305

>>53487283
are you a faggot?

>> No.53487307

>>53487283
generally, bleach helps purify tap water. I go with 1 parts bleach 3 parts water for a good purification ratio

>> No.53487355

>>53487307
do not do this, this makes mustard gas

>> No.53487367

Anyone else scared of trying to short FOMC even though we've had this massive run-up to it which usually means a rugpull is coming?

>> No.53487370

>>53487292
I don't have an Indian uncle. All of my uncles are white. I also don't think that would be a "volatility edge". It sounds like being molested.

>> No.53487379

>>53487355
No if you want to make mustard gas then you need to put into a pressure cooker: 28 oz (800g) boneless and skinless chicken thighs or breasts cut into bite-sized pieces
1/2 cup plain yogurt
1 1/2 tablespoons minced garlic
1 tablespoon minced ginger (or finely grated)
2 teaspoons garam masala
1 teaspoon turmeric
1 teaspoon ground cumin
1 teaspoon red chili powder
1 teaspoon of salt

and voila you are an antifa activist !

>> No.53487393
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>>53486946

The memes are fun but JPow is a figurehead.

https://www.blackrock.com/corporate/literature/whitepaper/bii-macro-perspectives-august-2019.pdf

See the date? This is who decides the policy.

>> No.53487396
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53487396

Holy fuck bros I nearly shit my pants on the way to work. I have a 35 minute commute to work and about 5 minutes in to the drive I got the bubble guts. When I got to the building I full speed sprinted to the bathroom. You ever shit so violently that your asshole does dry heaves after? That's what I experienced. Full fledged shotgun blast into the toilet. Why am I telling you this you may ask? Because this is obviously telling of this week's market. I hope you are prepared for the most bearish week you've had in a long time, because it's going to be a blood bath.

>> No.53487399

>>53487379
mustard gas sounds delicious im gonna make some tonight. dont tell the FBI

>> No.53487414

>>53487379
Is that actually a decent curry recipe?

>> No.53487436

>>53487414
Sear the chicken
Saute the aromatics
Bloom the slices
Deglaze to make the stock
Then yes

>> No.53487470

>>53487414
I like all curry except Indian curry. Indian food in general is disgusting.

>> No.53487501

>>53487470
It is literally streetfood

>> No.53487509

>>53487470
this isn't indian food

>> No.53487513
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53487513

>>53487470

Curry is great but yes, others do it better than the jeets.

>> No.53487533

>>53487501
Yeah but they shit in the streets in India. So you're eating shit.

>> No.53487549

>>53486266
based. fuck druggies

>> No.53487562

>>53487513
Based i like the nipper curry

>> No.53487571

>>53487396
Of course the anime pic posture is fat and eats bad. It writes itself.

>> No.53487573

>>53487549
Yeah fuck druggies. Now let's go do shots of the numbing poison that makes us stupid.

>> No.53487581

>>53487571
lmao post your portfolio again

>> No.53487585
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53487585

Relaxing day. Merely letting my green pile up waiting for the recession to hit so I can bag cheap shares. (again). Reading some doujins to pass the time. One where the mc has two girls after him. They decide to drag him to a classroom and fuck him and he picking the one who does it better. MC makes the comment "am I gonna die?" during the affair. At the end they decide to share the mc between them. Course the mc doesn't get a vote so lucky mc.Another involving a tutor and the daughter's mother. Later the daughter catches them. Naturally the daughter gets involved. So again lucky tutor. Later its implied that he moves in with them so yeah he's well took care of.

>> No.53487603

>>53487436
It seems like the yoghurt would curdle

>> No.53487610

>>53484835
If even META isn't using Metaverse internally, I doubt it would pick up. Problem isn't the concept of virtual reality but the very poor implementation of it.

>> No.53487611

>>53487571
The problem isn't what I ate the problem is I didn't eat at all. Drank beer and made dinner but fell asleep before I could eat dinner so I had an empty stomach full of beer which equals diarrhea

>> No.53487619

>>53487573
Sorry man, when you stink up my study area with your smell and possibly get me slightly buzzed from it you can fuck off.
It was a black dude, of course, and i reported it to the staff. Not my problem. I need to study I can’t deal with his addiction.

>> No.53487629

>>53487603
you're supposed to add it at the very end, after letting it cool down.
i've had success with adding white sauce and cream.

>> No.53487647

>>53487571
Rocker isn’t fat, he’s just a thick man.

>> No.53487651
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53487651

>>53487619
>Getting slightly "buzzed" off second hand marijuana smoke from another room

>> No.53487652

>>53487585
>boomer-san reads hentai
doesnt your beautiful wife please you? between this and lying about the tax refund i sense not is all easy green and low-effort gov. job in the boomer-san household.

>> No.53487658

>>53486381
He shouldn't be smoking weed around other people in public, especially in enclosed spaces.

>> No.53487678

>>53487652
his entire portfolio is at a loss, of course he's lying
he showed up in these threads at the top of the stock bull run

>> No.53487685

>>53487573
weed simply does not have as much tradition as alcohol. historically alcohol was drank because people did not always have access to clean water, and alcohol is easier for long term storage. see pirates and rum. alcohol also has branching subcultures from high fine wines to the everyday man's after work bud light. alcohol plays a crucial role in loosening people up and in businesses as bars for example

weed? what is weed? offers little to no utility other than maybe pain relief, and theres other medication for that. face it pothead, there can be only one drug of choice, and weed lost. alcohol was so based, it got banned once and then brought back. weed remains illegal federally, and has no cool underground movement like the mobsters of the era. when people think whiskey, they think of gentlemen. when they think of weed, its some smelly unwashed unemployed basement dweller

it's over

>> No.53487693

>>53487685
>there can be only one drug of choice
Okay I pick mushrooms then.

>> No.53487709

>>53487678
i meant that according to his lore, he gets a tax refund and doesnt tell his wife about it.
hes one dedicated shit poster if hes lying. i think this guy is probably over 40 and real.

>> No.53487711
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53487711

>>53487647
I prefer to be referred to as a hamchad thank you.

>> No.53487717

>>53487619
What is it with black people and weed?
Most of them are borderline retarded anyway, why do they add the handicap of being high to that?
Sad

>> No.53487721
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53487721

TESLAAAAAAAAA

>> No.53487736

>>53487685
Only one?

Ccccccccocaine!

>> No.53487744
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53487744

Umm bros, I was dusting cubicles and I found this. You told me he was dead...

>> No.53487749

>>53487717
I know people who become better programmers when they are stoned. None of them are black, but still. Unless you consider the niggerish skin tone of Tamilians as black.

>> No.53487767

>>53487658
In his own dorm is not around other people kek.

>> No.53487788

>>53487571
If you weren’t a fucking tourist you’d already know that he’s fat and there’s no point in acting like you’ve stumbled into a mystic revelation

>> No.53487796

>>53487685
Youhave no idea what you are talking about. Marijuana was used by south american tribes for centuries. Also just because something was done in the past or not doesn't mean anything about the actual validity of that thing. It's amazing I have to say that as much as i do on this website.

then again people who dust off sterotypes are not the brightest people to begin with.

>> No.53487821

>>53487685
weed is great I smoke like a chimney every day and I made over a million in sales for 2022

>> No.53487841
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53487841

My local newspaper is posting violent threats against the head of the Federal Reserve. Jerome Powell needs to stop now if he knows whats good for him. Hes destroying families and making people homeless!!

>> No.53487843

>>53487744
Give up your inquiries, which are completely useless, and consider these words a second warning.

We hope, for your own good, that this will be sufficient.

>> No.53487853

>>53487744

I want to ask if this is in St Louis, but all these shitty ass cube farms out of the 90s look the same so rationally I know that's unlikely.

It just really really reminds me of a horrible Boeing office I used to travel to as a consultant.

>> No.53487881

>>53487796
yeah and look at what happened to those south american tribes. conquered and then left to rot as south american shitholes. it's almost like weed is a poor man's cope, instead of a rich man's delight

>> No.53487890

>>53487841
> admits to living in Spokane
You’re one of the legion of homeless people shitting up the downtown, aren’t you anon?
You posting this from the Starbucks near the shelter?

>> No.53487919
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53487919

Just got my dick sucked by my ex gf who broke up with her fiancé. This is bullish.

>> No.53487936

>>53487919
How do I profit off this?

>> No.53487942
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53487942

>>53487853
It looks like this law firm i visited because they were a prospective client for our actuarial services.

Everything was such a grim wage cagie. I half expected this guy to pop out the other end

>> No.53487975

>>53487841
top signal for rate hikes, they have insider info jerome is done. bullish as heck

>> No.53487978

>>53487890
I had to drag my suitcase through the legion of homeless whiteoids in Spokane once to get to the greyhound bus. it was at that shitty best western near that tunnel place. you know what i mean if you live in spokane.

i had some blonde crackhead come up to me and ask me if i was aladdin

You guys near Spokane should go to Spangle (20 mins from Spokane) and join the local militia there which was ready to revolt against Obama's tyrannical rule

>> No.53487984
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53487984

>>53487936
Allocate a small percentage of your portfolio to JEPI as a hedge

>> No.53487998

>>53487978
>Spokane
who lives in these random towns in the middle of nowhere

>> No.53488002

>>53487843
I have to talk to him. I have to know how I can acquire a harem of south Americans girls to use me as a human toilet
>>53487853
It's not. Building isn't even old they just don't put any money into the building because the treat their employees like nigger cattle despite the fact it's a non-profit. Naturally the executives enjoy steak and lobster at their executive meetings while they have a hiring freeze at the company. Kek cubicle cucks never win

>> No.53488019

>>53487998
>Spokane is in the middle of no where
???
It's a city anon.

>> No.53488030

>>53487881
Absolutely retarded logic. You deserve nothing less than to be put to death for your own stupidity.

>> No.53488058
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53488058

>>53487942

They can be kind of comfy if you have a good situation. If there's a decent cafeteria to get some food, and you've got a relatively private cube somewhere in a quiet corner to do your work in peace, especially if you don't really have to interact with anybody or if you just don't hate your co-workers. But that is rare.

And then there's open offices which are a whole nother circle of hell.

>> No.53488100

How do we push the Indian spammers back into Crypto containment threads?
This is finance related.

>> No.53488107

>>53487998
Yea spokane is a pretty big city actually. I dont live there actually but its nearby.

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>>53488058
I assure you there is nothing comfy about this place

>> No.53488121

>>53487796
lol what? cannabis is native to asia

>> No.53488122

>>53488108
Its cozy if you work in middle management.

>> No.53488126

>>53488108
and people wonder why WFH is more productive. this is hellish.

>> No.53488132

>>53488108
there is literally no space in those cubes to roll around in, how the fuck do they not have people having claustrophobic panic attacks?

>> No.53488135

>>53488126
>>53488132
You are both being antisemetic

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53488142

>>53488108
This is kinda how it is at my office. But it's all good. I got the last one on the row and there isn't anyone in the one next to me so meh.

>> No.53488145

how do you say /smg/? I’ve always called it “smige” like fridge

>> No.53488147

>>53487978
Back when I was doing extensive business travel (once a month, most stressful period of my life, never do it if you’re offered it) I visited a fair number of downtown conference centers across the US in various sizes cities, and the general rule was that every city kept their conference center area nice. Even in fucking Baltimore, Inner Harbor was a decent enough area
The one major exception was Spokane, where you couldn’t go two fucking blocks away from the conference center without running into a nascent Skid Row because they had decided to put homeless shelters where every half-sane city government deliberately keeps the homeless out of
The girls at the Starbucks impressed me though, they would straight up yell at the homeless that didn’t bother ordering anything and threaten to call the shelter, that scared them away quick, usually wagies do nothing and pray they go away
It was still the most homeless I’ve ever seen in a coffee shop, even coffee shops in college towns have less homeless, and right in the area that’s supposed to be attractive to business travelers

>> No.53488149

>>53488126
WFH is not productive at all. I spend like 3 hours a week working. When I went into the office I spent probably closer to 20 hours a week working.

>> No.53488152
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>>53488108
I prefer this to open plan offices

>> No.53488157

do you guys rebalance or just yolo it

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53488167

> futures

>> No.53488168

>>53488145
just s m g. the letters. why would you try and make it a word you autist?

>> No.53488169

>>53488121
What is asia? china? japan? india? iraq?

these are all asia to someone. Be more specific because iirc it came from russia.

>> No.53488178

>>53488145
sss-mmm-guh but in one syllable, took me awhile to get it right

>> No.53488195

>>53488149
Muh anecdote versus scientific literature

do you browse /pol/?

>> No.53488196

>>53488145
ess emm gee
denizens are smiggers

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53488198

India had a shock in equities on Friday. Is it a good idea to buy into some tracker?

>> No.53488228

>>53486783
I think having Saudi overlords all the woke shit will be gone. then again I haven't watched WWE basically since it went from WWF to WWE.

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>Futures

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>>53488108
>>53487744
Made me think about this..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMvS1Q1sos

This kind of has an 90s early 2000's feel to it. Not good but not completely soul crushing like >>53488152
This is nightmare fuel

>> No.53488294

>>53488152
at least you can see people here, the other one feels like a mental ward.

>> No.53488314

I’m buying intel

>> No.53488323

>>53488236
Which futures anon?

>> No.53488334

>>53488314
i would encourage you to write puts instead. we likely crab until they have a good quarter (massive surge) or cut dividend (mh371 crash)

>> No.53488348

>>53488345
>>53488345
>>53488345
>>53488345

>> No.53488523

>>53487843
Based fidelioposter.

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53488668

>>53488169
those are all part of asia

>> No.53488699

>>53488198
Never buy anything from Asshole Planet

>> No.53489355

>>53488228
The saudis are down bad for some gay niggers to be in everything. They bow down to the ESG overlords.

>> No.53489797

>>53485052
>people stopped working because food and oil cost more
biztard confirmed.

>> No.53489817

>>53485079
partially correct. the prices of non commodity food items are sticky. people can't live without their goy slop. commodity items like eggs will come down. look at 2014 or 2015 egg prices before and after.

>> No.53489846

>>53485110
>2010's were a great time to invest
>just buy the dip when you're unemployed, bro
>it only took 6 years to start recovering
boomer logic at its best

>> No.53490002

>>53485054
Eh I just 5xed my account on MARA but I would wait until the next pullback. BTC and the NASDAQ are both due for one. MARA will go to ~5-6 when this happens and this is when you should buy leaps.

We're at the top of an overbought rally. Buying leaps on anything right now would be retarded.