Have you automated your job yet?

[Anonymous No.53431929]

ChatGPT is making the life of wagies easier.

[Anonymous No.53431944]

>>53431929
>service is down
>cannot even pay for it

[Anonymous No.53432292]

>>53431929
>last sentence

[Anonymous No.53432523]

>>53431929
Bet all that salt is from glowniggers

[Anonymous No.53432544]

>>53431929
I don't understand why people are boasting about this? what do they think will happen when management catches up with this?

[Anonymous No.53432725]

>>53431929
Dumb fucking onions retard is gloating about how he is being rendered irrelevant by Generation 1 ChatGPT. Fucking moron is literally cheering his own replacement and bragging about it online. Stupid fucking cunts will all get the rope on the day of the rake. AI will make this faggot bankrupt in a matter of a couple years. The arrogance of these tech pussies never ceases to astound me

[Anonymous No.53432748]

>>53431929
Yeah when higher ups figure out you'll either be fired or replaced by a robot lul

[Anonymous No.53432781]

GPT isn't a big problem like most people think. Recall that most people are absolute Congo gorilla niggers and can't operate a computer.

[Anonymous No.53432804]

AI is fake. That said, NPC activites can be easily automated with a simple ML algorithm

[Anonymous No.53432813]

>>53432725
>Dumb fucking onions retard is gloating about how he is being rendered irrelevant by Generation 1 ChatGPT. Fucking moron is literally cheering his own replacement and bragging about it online. Stupid fucking cunts will all get the rope on the day of the rake. AI will make this faggot bankrupt in a matter of a couple years. The arrogance of these tech pussies never ceases to astound me

[Anonymous No.53432825]

>>53431929
>Have you been automated out of your job yet?
ftfy

[Anonymous No.53433123]

Not a bad idea tho no cap

[Anonymous No.53433430]

Layoffs are already happening

Code monkeys, office workers, all of them are about to be irrelevent.
UBI CBDC airdrop incoming!

[Anonymous No.53433455]

>>53432544
>Implying boomers understand technology, or could do this themselves

[Anonymous No.53433459]

>>53432725
cause he gets to make a lot of money doing nothing and he knows it, he also knows his job security will be fine for a long time to come, shut up dumb nigger.

[Anonymous No.53433498]

>>53431929
how is any of that considered "work"
?

[Anonymous No.53433505]

>>53431929
Tech jobs are over.

[Anonymous No.53433516]

>>53432292
The mind of the wagie

[Anonymous No.53433554]

>>53431929
That's why GPT Inu is the next SHIB imo, except they have way more content like NFTs and a game, kinda like Axie Infinity. Memes good and first NFT set drops today

[Anonymous No.53433563]

>>53431929
> coding with chatgpt
> tell me you can't code without saying it.

[Anonymous No.53433603]

This is literally the whole point of AI and Chatgpt. Its supposed to do shit like this. The threat of being replaced by AI is not even close.

[Anonymous No.53433609]

ITT a bunch of Americans that didn't get to learn about the industrial revolution in school. This isn't going to replace people. This is going to increase productivity. It's no different from "Spinning Jenny". If anything it will simply ease the pain of the ongoing demographic collapse and by extension labor shortage. No reduction in production despite a reduction in workers.

[Anonymous No.53433677]

>>53431929
Within 10 years we'll have robots controlled by this shit that can build a house from plans without human intervention. So many manual labor jobs will be destroyed. What are people to do if their IQ is below 100? Just die?

[Anonymous No.53433713]

>>53433603
I personally know of a company that replaced a team of 20 pajeet coders with AI.
>but they're just dumb degree faking pajeets
Today.

[Anonymous No.53433736]

>>53432544
90+ IQ people in his job market that had the capacity to learn python have been programming their problems away for a decade and boomers never caught on,

[Anonymous No.53433794]

>>53433609
Easily 50 percent of the U.S. economy is make believe bullshit and we have a real unemployment rate of 25 percent while you are going on about how no one will be replaced. I hate midwits like you so fucking much kys.

[Anonymous No.53433824]

AI is a tool, not a person. If anything, this going to boost productivity and will further fuel the tech market.

What i’m more curious about is how the skilled Trade market (Plumbers, welders, etc) are going to compete for workers since all the boomers are retiring. I can’t imagine being a tradie when developments like these are happening, like why bust your ass to dust for barley a middle class wage when coders can easily get a medium 50 dollar hour wage? there is no Tradie jobs in the bureau that has a medium salary of even 40 dollars an hour, how can these businesses even compete with such high paid jobs like this unless their working themselves to death with OT?

[Anonymous No.53433842]

>>53432725
He's literally making an economically ideal decision. You faggots are contrarian about everything. Only thing he could do better is spend that extra time doing more work on either an AI company or learning something AI won't break into for a while (like manual labor requiring lots of fine motor skills, moving around, and different tools)
My time right now is split between making a defi game ecosystem and learning cabinetry

[Anonymous No.53433933]

>>53433824
>He thinks there is a large overlap personality and IQ between CS holders and normal degenerate tradies.

[Anonymous No.53434124]

>>53433933
Some can do it, it takes a specific person to stay in the Trades forever. But the issue is that we need Trade workers no matter what, but workers have no interest to kill themselves for dogshit wages busting yourself to death in t the weather when you can focus on CS and other Analysts jobs to receive a better wage. Thats why Trades are doing so poorly when it comes to manpower, Zoomers all want to be high paid Coders.

Contractors have to compete with, companies like Goodle, Amazon, even fuckin’ Coders at Home depo make more than any Tradie. How can they compete with this if they refuse to increase wages? if they refuse, Trades will just be a exploitive, Toxic job market until the crash final comes.

It also doesn’t help that the generational gap of how younger people view Blue and White collar jobs, Zoomers see trades for what it is currently compared to the roast tinted glasses of the Boomers. This Ai shit is going to fuel the “comfy White Collar job” Stereotype further, leaving Trade market in the dust.

[Anonymous No.53434181]

>>53433933
Some can do it, it takes a specific person to stay in the Trades forever. But the issue currently is that we need Trade workers no matter what, but workers have no interest to kill themselves for dogshit wages busting yourself to death in the weather when you can focus on CS or some Analysts type job to receive a better wage. Thats why Trades are doing so poorly when it comes to manpower. Contractors have to compete with companies like Goodle, Amazon, even fuckin’ Coders at Home depo make more than any Tradie. How can they compete with this if they refuse to increase wages? if they do nothing (which is what they're doing), Trades will turn into an exploitive, toxic job market until the crash final comes.

It also doesn’t help that the generational gap of how younger people view Blue and White collar jobs. Zoomers see trades for what it is currently compared to the rosy tinted glasses of the Boomers. This Ai shit is going to further fuel the “comfy White Collar job” Stereotype, leaving Trade market in the dust.

[Anonymous No.53434199]

>>53432725
Assblasted tradie detected. You thought AI would replace white collar workers but they are still making money while doing even less now.
Remember, lift with your knees, not with your back!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.53434219]

>>53432725
you do realise everything he's talking about is stuff good programmers used to automate for themselves as far back as the early 2000s
most white collar jobs are useless. they're the convenient social lies we use to pretend 80% of the value isn't already being generated by <0.1% of the population
people who have truly bullshit jobs face the least danger of replacement. it's the low level software engineers with no social skills, or really anyone doing real work in the office, who has to worry

[Anonymous No.53434231]

>>53433794
I'm sure the guy who uses 4chan memewords like "midwit" in all seriousness is better informed and more intelligent.

[Anonymous No.53434235]

>>53434181
Plus all the illegals driving down trade wages.

[Anonymous No.53434254]

>>53432544
Would management even care if he's automating his excel work? He's getting it done. Worst case they realize they don't need to be paying him as much or hiring as many people to do the work. But he's actually just doing his job efficiently.

[Anonymous No.53434315]

>>53431929
>Python code
How good is ChatGPT for programming and general tech work? Any programmers here have any experience using it?

[Anonymous No.53434330]

>>53434315
Make an account and try it yourself.

[Anonymous No.53434428]

>>53433609
Why have wages been falling relative to commodity and asset prices over the decades?
Also, mang jobs today are already basically adult daycare where little to no production is actually required. Something like a third of all people in the US self admit that if they stopped going to work it wouldn't make the tiniest bit of difference to anyone, no one at their work would even notice they were gone.

[Anonymous No.53434538]

>>53434330
>make an account
Ugh, never mind

[Anonymous No.53434551]

>>53431929
I'm submitting a resume and cover letter written by ChatGPT. I wonder if it'll work

[Anonymous No.53434552]

They should make an AI that creates ChatGPT accounts for you

[Anonymous No.53434587]

>>53434199
>Remember, lift with your knees, not with your back!

[Anonymous No.53434617]

>>53434199
You'll be sucking cock for money soon enough. Machine learning is real and trust me, you will not be needed. Its called progress and you are a leech sucking the blood from progress

[Anonymous No.53434619]

>>53434254
Yes. Our modern work culture isnt based on getting things done, it's based on keeping you busy all the time to maintain the perception of being needed.

[Anonymous No.53434626]

>>53433824
Some trades are niche/specialised and worth having, I work on electrical networks, underground cables and substations and the like. Basic is higher than most, lots of scope for overtime, and the work is rarely back breaking, often an 8 hour day may only have 2 or 4 hours of actual work in it. You are more likely to get back issues from sitting in an office all day.
No chance of being replaced by computers, being made redundant or replaced by foreign labour (its 3 years of training just to qualify for the job)

[Anonymous No.53434668]

i'm dropping out of accounting. Might become a tradie. Accounting is fucked, there's a shortage and they still expect you to fry your brain memorizing everything and spending $10k on a CPA course just to make $65k a year

[Anonymous No.53434684]

>>53434626
How do I enter such a specialization with no family or friends?

[Anonymous No.53434714]

>>53434684
transition to a female and flirt with one of the top CEO's of the trade firm you are applying to.

[Anonymous No.53434721]

>>53434617
Not trolling, but why don't you just learn CS? The Tradie market is going to collapse once everyone retires- but you're not going to be rolling in money either, that's a boomer misconception. you'll only make decent money if you:
A: Own your own company or B: Work through a union (which means you’ll be working 60-70+ hours a week, along with living in a blue metro area with an absurd cost of living) You never even scratch 6 figures unless you kill yourself with OT.

[Anonymous No.53434750]

>>53434714
wow thanks bro, good to know tradies are super based and care about the youth of this country.

[Anonymous No.53434752]

>>53431929
ai is always biased by its data and potentially approximative (I can know I work in the field)
it's the best way to do a job barely average, and jobs are supposed to be done well

[Anonymous No.53434776]

>>53432292
kek

[Anonymous No.53434831]

>>53432725
Cope and seethe harder, the boomers don’t understand how to use technology and will always need to hire people like us who know how to use tech and we will use it to automate our work and we still get paid 300k a year doing nothing. Cry harder faggot, this is how the world has always worked

[Anonymous No.53434837]

>>53432544
They won't. Office environments are insanely inefficient and ineffectual. White collar work is basically the modern day aristocracy, excpet now we don't even have to leave our mansions

[Anonymous No.53434859]

>>53431929
>npc discovers computer programming
yeah all white collar jobs were trivialized decades ago

[Anonymous No.53434880]

>>53434837
This 100%, we will just keep getting more money doing less work. We are the elite, nigger labour workers exist to serve us

[Anonymous No.53434925]

>>53433498
The work he was hired to do is getting done. What's the problem?

[Anonymous No.53434970]

>>53434684
Apply for an apprenticeship or other entry level position at the company that operates your local electrical infrastructure, get the job and work though it.

[Anonymous No.53435005]

>>53433824
Only the dumb uncreative types are threatened. Adapt or die. I'll be able to leverage AI to automate the busy work to finally free up mental energy for creative problem solving. It's a tool and as useful as the person knowing what prompts to use.

[Anonymous No.53435042]

>>53434181
This. Even if you WANT to get into trades (I have fond memories of woodshop, I'm fascinated by woodworking videos on Youtube, I would love to learn how to build a house), the barriers to entry are just as bad as tech bullshit. You can't just walk onto a job, you have to have credentials. They won't teach you, you can't just tag along and learn, the tool and material cost is way too high to just grab some and learn on your own. I've talked to a few of these guys, and they get salty when they learn I have a fine arts degree (which included several sculpture course, so working material with your hands, measuring, all of that crap), even saltier if I let slip that I'm gay or a progressive or an anime geek. You can't get your dumbshit kids/grandkids involved, I'm the one who showed up, and you're gonna bust my balls over stuff that's completely unrelated to work. Oh, and you want to constantly push me to overwork because you won't talk with your peers and set limits with clients? And, again, these are the guys I could talk to, the VAST majority of the market are people who will literally only hire family or family friends.

There's a massive institutional problem with trades, and shit's gotta change. I'd even put it up to gov't to get involved to get involved. Not just handing money to LLCs, actually building up a corps with good pay and decent hours. Even go so far as to make it a loss leader for a time. There's so much shit that needs to get done and it's clear that private industry isn't equipped to handle it. Flush 'em out.

[Anonymous No.53435043]

>>53434684
Most good trade jobs are unionized, and where I am you don't get into the union unless a parent was in the union or you have a tan.

[Anonymous No.53435072]

>>53431929
Based me too

[Anonymous No.53435094]

>>53431929
No, I have a real job

[Anonymous No.53435102]

>>53434181
Nobody needs you fucking labour niggers, we chad scientists can make robots to replace you retard unskilled workers. Blue collar low status faggots cope and seethe

[Anonymous No.53435155]

>respamming his bait because he's not getting (You)s

[Anonymous No.53435206]

>>53434315
Useful for general tech work. I'd not use the code as is but could be a geeat replacement for stack overflow on getting suggestions on how to handle a certain scenario.

[Anonymous No.53435220]

>>53432544
Worse is that they are most fake and gay larps. Highly exaggerated stories for updoots!
Now my midwit female manager is going to think we can use bots instead of hiring new people.

[Anonymous No.53435267]

>>53435220
The way it typically works is executive management issues a directive requiring a division or group to have an approved AI rollout plan, and until that happens no hires are approved.

[Anonymous No.53435317]

>>53435267
Luckily the way my place works is someone will say "sure, I'll look into it" and we never hear of it again

[Anonymous No.53435330]

>>53435317
based

[Anonymous No.53435367]

>>53432292
Next step is asking AI to automatically reply or report to police threats in DMs.

[Anonymous No.53435383]

>>53431929
This is just being smart I dont get how this is antiwork. If thiss anti work then the whole industrial revolution is antiwork too

[Anonymous No.53435831]

I'm a business analyst and I've been trying to think of how to use ChatGPT in work but haven't come up with anything useful yet

Also, it's always inaccessible now with the server load....

[Anonymous No.53436032]

It still takes its own skill to speak to the Chat GPT in a syntax that yields the best results. Especially later when you have to start paying by the word for output

[Anonymous No.53436060]

>>53433794
>25%
I think you’re inflating by including people who have no intention to work anymore. I’ll be retired by my early 30s myself.

[Anonymous No.53436441]

>>53433677
Yes, hopefully

[Anonymous No.53436464]

how do i bypass the phone number verification?
tried all free sms online numbers but all are taken. need to automate my wfh work

[Anonymous No.53436471]

>>53431929
>>53432725
Fuggin retards trying to get AI to do their tasks when the real trick is to figure out how to be given no tasks in the first place and still somehow look like you’re needed.

[Anonymous No.53436577]

ChatGPT doesn't even work its always at full capacity.

[Anonymous No.53436614]

>>53436464
Just buy a sim card nigger?

[Anonymous No.53436701]

>>53435042
The people can make hard to get into, there are some right bitchy old guys who always have a problem with you. Its not you, its them, and as soon as you learn you you can tell them to fuck off your alright though

[Anonymous No.53436741]

>>53436614
not spending a dime on mr shekelbergs new ai tool

[Anonymous No.53436788]

>>53434880
White collar cucks are still paying in time, which afaik is non-reedemable even for $. The only real aristocracy are the trust fund kids and stakeholders

[Anonymous No.53436841]

>I used ChatGPT to write some-
Larping and gay

ChatGPT can't write shit and most of the time gives out wrong answers
I might as well google shit on stack overflow and ask Pajeets
Will literally get better answers

[Anonymous No.53436953]

[Anonymous No.53436970]

>>53434619
this, its about "looking like you are working" not actually doing real work.

[Anonymous No.53436973]

>>53436953

[Anonymous No.53437045]

>>53434551
my resume was 99 percent written by Chat-GPT, I start my new job on the first. It did a far better job then I could.

[Anonymous No.53437077]

[Anonymous No.53437092]

>>53436841
cope. you and your bloated ass framework will be replaced

[Anonymous No.53437115]

[Anonymous No.53437193]

>>53436973
>>53437077
Chatgpt is already compromised.
>>53437115
Kek

[Anonymous No.53437214]

>>53431929
>haha, I'm so smart I automated my own job!
>Mr. Anon, we've just realized we can automate your job, you are being let go
WTF HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?!

[Anonymous No.53437216]

>>53437115
>network error

[Anonymous No.53437222]

>>53437045
I used it to write a job posting for my team. It was more accurate than 99% of the stuff written by HR who have no idea what my job actually is.

"Write me a job description for x position for JR to Mid-level emphasizing these traits and knowledge of these programs." Took 10 minutes and 3 attempts to get it right.

[Anonymous No.53437231]

>>53431929
>have to use phone number
Lmao, no thanks.

[Anonymous No.53437252]

>>53431929
My job can't be automated. I decide whether or not someone committed a crime from forms people submit. Then I decide whether or not the person who turned them in gets rewarded or not if it turns out the person really did commit a crime.

[Anonymous No.53437262]

>>53433459
everybody hates boomers so much because of their carelessness for consequences yet you have people defending the OP redditor.
MHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.53437287]

>>53432544
90% of white collar workers don't do shit all day

[Anonymous No.53437302]

>>53437252
if(Person_Committed_Crime(form))
Give_Reward = true

We can automate your decision-making process. We can.

[Anonymous No.53437323]

>>53437287
>tfw spent the entirety of last Friday just staring at a screen since I had no work to do
I was actually wishing there was work to do so I wouldn't be so bored.

[Anonymous No.53437326]

>>53437115
kek

[Anonymous No.53437350]

Six figure wfh 2 hours a day code monkey chad here. Its a nothing burger. It cant build anything its like the script kiddie of old school /b

[Anonymous No.53437384]

>>53437350
Yeah of course it's not production-ready yet. Point is that this shit improves exponentially. It's actually surprising to me how much of our everyday decision-making processes can be categorized and abstracted away into algorithms.

[Anonymous No.53437396]

>>53437252
Your job will soon be outsourced to kleros court sir

[Anonymous No.53437405]

>>53435042
>the barriers to entry are just as bad as tech bullshit. You can't just walk onto a job, you have to have credentials.
Wrong. You can show up to local builders/landscapers/painters/flippers and ask on the spot to bust your ass as an extra hand. Like the other anon says, after getting an initial brunt of experience in the business (try to find the best builders in your area to begin if possible), just recognize the petty boomer bs and avoid it upfront once you've begun to prove yourself as a reliable worker. Construction workers, contractors, and other small business tradesman are super unreliable - if you are capable of being consistent, hard-working and smart, the good tradesman in the biz will appreciate it and you will begin to get beaucoup bucks working for high-end builders who are booked years out. Unless you're in a backwards area in the south, once you're proven as a worker no one will gaf if you're gay or into art. Same is true of the union-based skilled trades, but it just requires the extra step of getting an apprenticeship which is more of a hassle.

[Anonymous No.53437426]

It sounds like this person could have spent a week learning python and done this years before chatGPT but was too lazy to do it

[Anonymous No.53437513]

>>53435042
>>53437405
Oh, and you want to constantly push me to overwork because you won't talk with your peers and set limits with clients? And, again, these are the guys I could talk to, the VAST majority of the market are people who will literally only hire family or family friends. There's a massive institutional problem with trades, and shit's gotta change. I'd even put it up to gov't to get involved to get involved. Not just handing money to LLCs, actually building up a corps with good pay and decent hours. Even go so far as to make it a loss leader for a time. There's so much shit that needs to get done and it's clear that private industry isn't equipped to handle it. Flush 'em out.
Also worth mentioning, this is why it's piss easy for intelligent young people with drive to start a trades business and start absolutely killing it once they break through the initial greenhorn phase.

[sage No.53437789]

>>53437513
Oops forgot to greentext
>Oh, and you want to constantly push me to overwork because you won't talk with your peers and set limits with clients? And, again, these are the guys I could talk to, the VAST majority of the market are people who will literally only hire family or family friends. There's a massive institutional problem with trades, and shit's gotta change. I'd even put it up to gov't to get involved to get involved. Not just handing money to LLCs, actually building up a corps with good pay and decent hours. Even go so far as to make it a loss leader for a time. There's so much shit that needs to get done and it's clear that private industry isn't equipped to handle it. Flush 'em out.
>Also worth mentioning, this is why it's piss easy for intelligent young people with drive to start a trades business and start absolutely killing it once they break through the initial greenhorn phase.

[Anonymous No.53437851]

>ChatGPT give a correct answer 95% of the time
>5% of the time it's completely wrong
>Only way to know which is which, is to have an expert validate the output
All it's doing is creating the illusion of answering a question or extending a statement, based on word relationships identified in its training data. It doesn't 'understand' anything. A very convincing illusion is basically the same as the real thing, most of the time, but going from 'looks legit' to 'actually legit' isn't a matter of improving the system, it requires an entirely different approach.

Also, yeah if you want babbys first API call Python snippet, it can help you. But anything more complex that requires a couple of classes doing different things, and it'll just ignore most of the question. It's more likely to replace product owners than programmers.

[Anonymous No.53437908]

>>53437115
Lel it always gives network error when you expose the bots cognitive dissonance

[Anonymous No.53437928]

>>53434231
Go back.
>>53436060
You thought that was a clever reply huh?

[Anonymous No.53438062]

>>53434428
I don't know why mean disposable income in your specific country has been falling. Perhaps it's due to the things you listed, and not due to technological advancements. What the fuck are you trying to say?

[Anonymous No.53438071]

>>53433794
Why did you respond to me? Nothing of what you said is relevant to what I said.

[Anonymous No.53438117]

>>53435042
>>53437405
I used to be an IT worker. I got into a trade with a firm handshake. We have tool bitches, they don't get paid much but almost no one is turned away and once you've proven you at least pay attention and know some basics you're a full blown junior tech. The hours get batshit though, even if you're a production manager since you'll still be expected to cover for shortages and every trade is low on people. On the flip side there's loads of freedom and you're expected to handle shit on your own. White collar life is cushy and not stressful, I spent maybe a few hours a day doing anything of meaning whereas in my trade every bit of time is meaningful so I don't respect white collar work anymore. Also anime and weird shit is popular in the trades, if you're a fag we'll call you a fag but no one cares.

[Anonymous No.53438131]

>>53437405
>bust your ass
Inviting.
>The rest
This is what people keep SAYING, but it's not my EXPERIENCE. Which is what matters. Tradies create terrible work environments because they think that they can get over with workers that are idiots or otherwise compromised, and then complain that the only people who show up are unreliable. Do they have reasonable work hours? Are they paying on time? Are they advertising where workers are (online)? No. They aren't.
This convo isn't what I need to do to get a job, it's about what employers need to do in order to get workers, so that they don't go out of business, and so that the country doesn't start to physically fall apart. Until this mental shift happens, we're screwed.
>>53437513
>Marketing
I wouldn't be looking for a job in trades if I were good at that. I have actual skills as an artist, but that's also an area where you basically have to build everything from the ground up yourself if you don't have an "in."

[Anonymous No.53438194]

>>53438117
>if you're a fag we'll call you a fag but no one cares.
I spent years working with conservative Boomers, being forced to hide my sexuality; I'm never going back to that shit, and I'm never going back to being treated like shit for it, either. It's not even something to make fun of unless you're self-conscious about being around gay people. So, what I'm supposed to suck it up because you're uncomfortable with it? Just chill.

I've already had a job that was decent, with the only major issue being not getting raises. So I know what a good job looks like. And I don't see any reason to subject myself to lead-addled Boomer hang-ups anymore.

[Anonymous No.53438302]

>>53438194
>I spent years working with conservative Boomers, being forced to hide my sexuality; I'm never going back to that shit, and I'm never going back to being treated like shit for it, either. It's not even something to make fun of unless you're self-conscious about being around gay people. So, what I'm supposed to suck it up because you're uncomfortable with it? Just chill
Any masculine occupation or environment where you're expected to be tough is like that. Racism and the like are common faire. You taking offense to being called a faggot proves you're not mentally strong enough to get a tough job done under pressure

[Anonymous No.53438387]

>>53438194
So you like penis in your mouth and anus?

[Anonymous No.53438406]

>>53438131
>This convo isn't what I need to do to get a job, it's about what employers need to do in order to get workers, so that they don't go out of business, and so that the country doesn't start to physically fall apart. Until this mental shift happens, we're screwed.
The original point of departure for your rant was
>Even if you WANT to get into trades [...] the barriers to entry are just as bad as tech bullshit.
which is just patently false. As far as how things will pan out for the market, expect the 'tech bros' to continually migrate into the construction and trades fields with small companies that blow everything else the fuck out of the water with innovation, high-quality products or labor, and clean-cut business practices. E.g., see what Volstrukt is doing with FRAMECAD. Home building is going to be completely turned on its head in the next 5-10 years. Same will occur slowly but surely for all the other trades as technologically-mediated optimization continues to work its way into various physical media, with increasingly low overhead costs.

[Anonymous No.53438448]

>>53438194
Lol fag with pink ID classic go suck nigger cock

[Anonymous No.53438470]

>>53432544
they will rehire you as an AI technician and ask you to automate everyone elses job for them

[Anonymous No.53438602]

>>53432825
He automated himself out of his own job. Without asking for a raise to do it before they figure it out and fore him. I would've done it, told boss and automated away all the other HR people except me to run the bots.

[Sage No.53438618]

>>53431929
This is likely a larp
OH and sage

[Anonymous No.53438747]

>>53438302
>You taking offense to being called a faggot proves you're not mentally strong enough to get a tough job done under pressure
lmao no
>>53438406
>which is just patently false.
It isn't. As I said, the same axiom holds for both: it's extremely difficult to obtain any sort of dignified employment without credentials or a personal reference.
>As far as how things will pan out for the market, expect the 'tech bros' to continually migrate into the construction and trades fields with small companies that blow everything else the fuck out of the water with innovation, high-quality products or labor, and clean-cut business practices.
Well, in this case, we're not saying different things. What you've described is the case where, instead of Boomer contractors et al. making a change, they just get run out of business by startups. One thing I will caution about this hypothetical is that you'll see (much like the tech startup explosion) many companies trying to reinvent the wheel - though, in this case, not because of a lack of regulation and oversight allowing VCs to fund the "outgrowing" of older rivals; but instead, because existing experts will have failed to pass along their knowledge. This sucks, because it will lead to greater instability than need-be, 7- or 8-figures dumped down the drain per-company-bust, and likely some unfortunate amount of death and injury from dumbshit faulty engineering. I really don't see a way out of suffering from the fallout of Boomer crap without us somehow forcing them to suck less.

[Anonymous No.53438811]

>>53433498
Work smarter not harder.

[Anonymous No.53438840]

>>53438470
THIS RIGHT HERE

Middle management is dumb as brick. You can't even expect them to know how to set their toaster timer

[Anonymous No.53438848]

>>53433842
>learning cabinetry
QRD? Nick Rochefort was saying one his stream those guys make really good money.

[Anonymous No.53438867]

>>53431929
I’m working 3 remote software engineering jobs with ChatGPT. The code it produces is better than anything I wrote by hand before. I’m making $735k/y without doing any work

[Anonymous No.53438872]

>>53431929
To be fair, writing "Excel Macros" shouldn't be a job in the first place.

[Anonymous No.53438909]

>>53438867
That's chump change. My firm of 3 people recently integrated chatGPT and now we're pulling over $10 Million per week doing 1 hour of work a day, 2 days a week max.

[Anonymous No.53438977]

>>53438747
>hypothetical
It isn't hypothetical. It's already happening, right now, and rather than reinventing the wheel it's rather about (e,g, with FRAMECAD) cutting labor costs by 80% with a highly superior product. What is speculative is simply the extent to which this trend with outmode all of these markets nationwide, but it's not exactly an uncertain bet at this point.
>because existing experts will have failed to pass along their knowledge.
This would only be true in highly specific technical trades, but given that these fields run off of apprenticeship systems and unions it really isn't the case. For everything else, you can learn everything and MORE (compared to average) from youtube videos, specification documents and other web content.
>it's extremely difficult to obtain any sort of dignified employment without credentials or a personal reference.
>I really don't see a way out of suffering from the fallout of Boomer crap without us somehow forcing them to suck less.
The difference is that taking the first steps and completing the initial brunt of credentials-gaining is incomparably more *accessible* and *faster* in one (non-union trades) compared to the other (tech). You yourself can wade through the trash that is the small business market in trades and join the ranks of the competent and intelligent workers at the top - detect the bullshit up front (boomer pettiness, idiots) and get in contact with the best businesses in your area. 90+% of all small businesses in the trades are run by absolute retards whose profit margins exist basically from scamming their customers. The 5-10% sharp guys exist, typically growing into mid-sized businesses doing commercial work as well, and you simply have to search for and contact them. It's easier to pull off in New England states, but I'd assume the same of the west coast and select economic hot spots high in new developments

[Anonymous No.53438990]

>>53435367
I'm using ai to reply to posts or my mother dies in her sleep tonight.

[Anonymous No.53439226]

>>53432544
each employee becomes even more productive and profitable resulting in higher pay and increased hiring for prompt jockeys?

[Anonymous No.53439280]

>>53439226
>each employee becomes even more productive and profitable resulting in higher pay
Where have you been the last 20 years? Compensation is so out of wack with productivity it's fucked

[Anonymous No.53439287]

>human gets updoots on twitter pretending chat-gpt did his job
>multiple copycat larpers seek more updoots and more larps come out
>new fresh larps inspired by the original come up with more shit ai didn't do with shopped responses written by humans meant to look like an ai wrote it
>eventually ai can do these things for real and people think no big deal because they think its been happening for years at that point, but it was updoot larps

[Anonymous No.53439298]

>>53439280
that's the joke

[Anonymous No.53439351]

>>53438747
God you're an uppity little queer. No wonder no one wants you.
>>53438977
>This would only be true in highly specific technical trades, but given that these fields run off of apprenticeship systems and unions it really isn't the case
This is an important thing to address. No one is watching youtube videos and working in any major trade but the knowledge is still out there. Your skill very quickly comes down to who your leads were when learning and how many fuck ups you've made that you have learned to avoid. Trades don't run like a lot of industries; you're given the basics and sent out but you aren't given a high level position just because you have a piece of paper from a more expensive school. No one has time to care about that shit when practicality dominates all.

[Anonymous No.53439356]

>>53435042
Show boipussi sir

[Anonymous No.53439398]

>>53431929
If this is real than they clearly don’t know that another Pandora’s box has been opened. What do you think happens when AI catch’s up to IoT/military? Yep you will own nothing and you will be happy.

[Anonymous No.53439760]

>>53439351
Their loss. The endgame is me becoming a competitor, which they really don't want.
>>53438977
Er, the companies existing wasn't what I called hypothetical, it was
>the extent to which this trend with outmode all of these markets nationwide
So we remain in agreement.
>but given that these fields run off of apprenticeship systems and unions it really isn't the case
This is the scary part, actually.
>For everything else, you can learn everything and MORE (compared to average) from youtube videos, specification documents and other web content.
And, unfortunately, this isn't a panacea. The value-add of experienced pros hasn't been specific knowledge for at least as long as the internet has been within easy reach; they're valuable because they have the judgment to observe and identify best practices and best processes for a given problem. ChatGPT et al. might help at some point, but you're going to need to catalogue unrecorded knowledge before everyone dies.
>
The difference is that taking the first steps and completing the initial brunt of credentials-gaining is incomparably more *accessible* and *faster* in one (non-union trades) compared to the other (tech).
What? No, it isn't. Many of these credentialing programs require class-time and hands-on work with expensive tools. For tech, I'm typing on everything I need right now.
>and you simply have to search for and contact them
>simply
>To find work you just gotta find work
Mrm.
Again, you're approaching this from the wrong side. Remember, this is a /worker shortage/. The assumption that you should have to work to find the opportunity to work is another backwards Boomerism that isn't even borne out in the real world: the vast majority of people get jobs through networks. That is, negligible legwork, negligible hustle, 99% waiting for someone you know to hand you an opportunity. Why? Because wasting energy on fighting for a job that might blow or not even materialize is for suckers.

[Anonymous No.53439772]

>>53439356
I'm a top.

[Anonymous No.53439784]

>>53433609
>it isn't going to replace people!
>btw I just automated my job!

[Anonymous No.53439788]

>>53433516

[Anonymous No.53440046]

>>53431929
i build AI for an AI company
new novel neural structures I am building won't be learned by AI to reproduce for atleast 5 years and thats super conservative

[Anonymous No.53440793]

>>53434315
its completely useless if you write actual software. if you are a scriptmonkey who copy pastes python code all day though its very useful

[Anonymous No.53440977]

>>53431929

This is why 99% of these losers wont make it. Most of them see a way to automate their work so they can do nothing, but a few of us, the ones with ambition see much more. You and I anon, we see it as a way to help us reach our goals faster. Why work for others when we can work for ourselves and make more money. When you own the job you can still use chatGPT to do this exact same thing and focus your attention on other aspects of the business. Dont let this low IQ example lead you astray anons. You have one life to achieve your dreams. You were lucky enough to be born in a age, where AI is available but widely unused. You have a massive advantage over billions...for now.

The choice is yours.

[Anonymous No.53441023]

>>53433455
no they hire a couple people who understand it and lay off the rest of the retards

[Anonymous No.53441312]

>>53433455
>implying there arent Xers in management

Case and point Elon Musk and what did he do after he took over twitter.

[Anonymous No.53441351]

>>53433824
>like why bust your ass to dust for barley a middle class wage when coders can easily get a medium 50 dollar hour wage?

Because either coders wont be getting a 50 an hour wage or the labor pool will shrink so only the top 20% arent canned.

[Anonymous No.53441426]

Trades can’t compete with the leverage that software has, software cucks need to get their pay cut and redistributed to subsidize real goods

Take for example the auto industry, the manufacturers have to pay for labor and material for each car where Microsoft can shit out windows infinite times

So redistribute this cheat code of leverage to everyone or I will continue to pirate your software and use adblock

[Anonymous No.53441477]

>>53437252
So you have a bunch of variables and methods to determine a crime using natural language processing?

Sounds like you can be replaced by AI

[Anonymous No.53441529]

>>53437513
Quit your fudding. In my neck of the wood Carpenter Apprentices start at 30.84 an hour (60% of base journeyman 51.44 an hour) which grosses 60k a year assuning only 2080 hours worksd (and ive never see. A construction job that didnt have tons of OT)
in neck of the woods and there is also additional money depending on hazard and travel time.

A basic bitch laborer apprenrice, think landscaping, starts at $24 an hour. A journeyman flaggerr (those goes who hold the stop go signs) makes $34 an hour.

Not even getting into the more technical of the trades. Theres a killing to be made. The downside is you fucking wreck your body if your not careful or do it for too long.

https://www.agcwa.com/labor-relations/

[Anonymous No.53441596]

>>53435042
>and they get salty when they learn I have a fine arts degree
> even saltier if I let slip that I'm gay or a progressive or an anime geek.
have you considered just not telling them that you're a faggot?
i don't understand how these things get brought up unless you bring them up.

[Anonymous No.53441619]

Some companies have compliance policies and internet activity monitoring. I think as long as company or customer data is not exposed to the AI, it should be ok to use it. I am concerned about people, jobs and the incoming excess of people being fired and feeling useless. Why even keep so many people alive if you don´t need them anymore?

[Anonymous No.53441646]

>>53431929
> Spends 10 hours a day figuring out how to automate stuff
> Thinks he's not working
In my experience, a task is only worth automating if you do it a lot. Otherwise the ROI isn't enough.

[Anonymous No.53441735]

>>53438194
Faggots like you deserve the rope. Keep your sexuality hidden, why the FUCK do you want to push it down other peoples throats. Just shut the fuck up about it, and there'll be no issues, but nooo, you faggots need to assert your bullshit everywhere you go. Fucking niggers.

[Anonymous No.53441895]

>>53437384
Yeah, just like self driving cars right?