/smg/ - Stock Market General

[Anonymous No.53374763]

Stand back while I fuck this up again edition.

>Risk management:
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp (embed)

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Live Bloomberg stream:
https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html

>Brokers:
https://pastebin.com/F1yujtVq (embed)

>Stock market dictonary:
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ (embed)

>Pre-Market Data and Live data:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com/
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc:
https://market24hclock.com/
https://tradingeconomics.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0eflYLkI4A [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]

Privious
>>53368992

[Anonymous No.53374777]

>>53374763
Daily reminder that finance and economics are pseudoscientific make believe garbage and capitalism is inherently unstable, exploitative and unsustainable with a built in expiration date. Ever escalating recessions, poverty, debt, wealth inequality, monopolies, disease, pollution, exploitation, slavery, conflict and wars are fundamental, necessary and intended principles of it, NOT glitches. Greed, selfishness, lying, cheating, stealing, competition, conflict, slavery and war are behaviors highly encouraged and incentivized under capitalism. It is LITERALLY cancer and i dont mean it metaphorically, i mean it literally, it shares the exact same functions and principles as a cancer cell.

The freer the market the more enslaved everything and everyone else is and the more blood sacrifices need to be performed to "the Line god". An economy needs to be as regulated and planned as possible to serve the living beings needs and desires and be able to be adjusted according to our needs at any given moment/period. finance and stock markets are incompatible with life and are in direct competition

[Anonymous No.53374785]

Yields...

Anime too

[Anonymous No.53374809]

>>53374777
based trips of truth.

[Anonymous No.53374830]

>>53374777
Daily reminder that poopoo and peepee are poopoopeepee poop peepee and poopoopee is peepee and poopoo, peepee and poopoo with a poop pee poopoo pee. poo poopoopeepee poopoo, peepee, poop, pee, poopoopee, poopoopoopee, peepee, poopoopeepee

[Anonymous No.53374846]

>>53374777
not really getting the gist of what your saying at all but nice trips

[Anonymous No.53374852]

>Next time on /smg/!

[Anonymous No.53374855]

GME is going to rip the next weeks, due to the OPEX option calendar

[Anonymous No.53374867]

I believe I will fomo on monday

[Anonymous No.53374875]

over and over in /smg/ I hear
>muh pivot
>muh pivot
>muh pivot
do any of you delusional mumus know what a pivot is? do you know what the market is pricing in as a pivot? it's pic related
go look at federal funds futures if you don’t believe me
https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/interest-rates/cme-fedwatch-tool.html?redirect=/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html
please mumu, explain to /smg/ why a 0.25% rate cut in July 2023 will help Q1, Q2, Q3, Q4 earnings for 2023, and why they will help earnings for Q1 Q2 for 2024
please explain why this time there will be no 12-18 month lag in monetary policy
please explain how a 0.25% interest rate cut will immediately put money into the (extremely broke) consumers pocket, and how this will result in them immediately increasing their retail spending
don't just be dumb mimic bird and regurgitate mainstream media talking points saying
>a pivot is bullish!
>we're going to rally because the Fed is going to pivot!
tell us why.
explain to us why we will rally on a 0.25% cut in July 2023
explain to us why corporate earnings will not be impacted by the recession for Q1, Q2, Q3, and Q4 2023 and Q1, Q2 2024
explain how cutting interest rates by 0.25% in July 2023 will impact these earnings
please explain how cutting interest rates by 0.25% will immediately put more money into corporate earnings
please explain how cutting rates by 0.25% in July 2023 will retroactively save Q1/Q2 earnings for 2023, especially, if you “don't believe” that "monetary policy lags 12-18 months" (it does lag..)
>pro-tip: you can't, and you've drank the propaganda kool-aid, and are repeating the narrative they want you to believe, over and over, when you don't understand anything, and cannot answer any of these simple questions
BUT MUH PIVOT
>inb4 "6 consecutive quarters of earnings misses across all sectors have been priced in!!" l o l
please mumu, genuinely try to answer these questions, I am very interested to hear your rationale (delusions)

[Anonymous No.53374887]

on the house this week

1/21 Weekend Notes

• The VIX has made a series of higher lows this week. The MOVE index has not broken out despite treasuries selling off. This divergence at the precipice of bond resistance indicates that the next move in treasures will be up. Most consensus is screaming to short bonds here. CFTC positioning is record short treasuries. VVIX has been making higher lows, as well.
• Bonds have made a series of higher lows. Yields are in an organized and established downtrend. TLT is up 16% from its October lows. The SPY is up 14% in the same timeframe. The less normies are on the long bond train, the better. Consensus among retail is bonds are “dead money”, despite outperforming the SPY, with this outperformance to accelerate into worsening data.
• DXY is at the lower end of its trading range, 0.70% away from the ultimate cycle support of 101.3. May or may not get there, the DXY dropping that low could push the SPY over 400. Possible blow out top scenario. Bonds would be expected to post divergence with this move.
• High yield/junk did not follow this move. Barely up 0.25% and being down most of the day. HYG has 0.70% of upside potential left, which would form another failed top. This with a SPY move of +1.5% on Monday/Tuesday may be in the cards.
• At this point, chasing gains in the SPY is indeed bending over and grabbing pennies in front of a steam roller. The top may be 398, 400, 402, 404, but there is a top. And given the confluence of different data points/signals/variables, that top will be hit next week. The chop is noise.
• If a gratuitous gap up and go is given (over 1%) sell hedges.
• The SPY has immense resistance at 400. There is no reason for it to go beyond that level, breadthwise, tech is the last man standing in this rally. Other sectors indicate buyer exhaustion. Notable stocks hitting big resistances: GOOGL, MSFT, AAPL, TSLA. Without these stocks, there will be no continuation up.

[Anonymous No.53374892]

>>53374887

* XLK has 2.2% upside. QQQ has 1.2% for the gap fill, and 1.9% for the next resistance.
• Bitcoin is hitting major weekly trend resistance. This coincides with a potential equity top.
• On selling call hedges, buy NVDA puts to lower cost basis. Insiders have been dumping NVDA at a rapid pace into earnings. https://www.marketbeat.com/stocks/NASDAQ/NVDA/insider-trades/ This, alongside the cyclical nature of the sector, the extremely overvalued P/E, and the retail/reddit fascination with this stock indicates that it may be the next TSLA short.

Overall, this test of “the downtrend line” definitely “feels” different. Many folks now unironically believe in the notion of a “soft landing”, a term that has always been used tongue in cheek by those with more knowledge (as if the federal reserve actually had any chance of achieving this). Many people believe inflation has been defeated, and that hikes are over. The US economy is resilient, all while unemployment scrapes century lows. Essentially, there is real sentiment that this time will be “The breakout” moment. Time after time the SPY has failed to make a real capitulatory low BECAUSE people like this were bearish. Now they’re bullish. The age-old inverse correlation between bonds and equities is being reestablished. The Dollar faces monthly support at 101.3 after weeks of decline. Yields are crashing. Redemptions are accelerating. Earnings season has begun. The stage is set.

[Anonymous No.53374901]

>>53374875
>do any of you delusional mumus know what a pivot is?
Why yes, I can answer that for you. You see, stocks will keep going down at least until they start going up again. We will know for sure when that happens because price changes will switch from a downward direction to an upward one. The main indicator that we can use to identify this switch is that we will start to see stock prices rising instead of falling. That will tell us when returns on stocks have begun changing from negative to positive. With positive returns, that means that stock values will be growing rather than shrinking. Thus, the prices at which stocks are bought and sold will be going up instead of going down. In fact, if a stock's price is changing, then that means it is either rising or falling.

[Anonymous No.53374908]

>>53374875
don't care didn't read lmao melt up now

[Anonymous No.53374930]

>>53374867
Reeee get off that piege you thugs he din do nuffin

[Anonymous No.53374933]

>>53374852
Tragic Tuesday

[Anonymous No.53374949]

never mind, it's over

[Anonymous No.53374980]

>>53374949
oh shhhhhhhhhhhhit

[Anonymous No.53375020]

God is there any stock market youtubers that genually want to inform and make good strategies and not just trying to shill some shitty stock to create an artificial pump so they can sell? Every single one is clearly just trying to sucker their fans into some kind of hype about how 'this stock is about to go moooon lel any second bro trust me buy buy buy!'

[Anonymous No.53375059]

>>53374785
Wait a minute
isn't this no longer inverted?
Is the recession cancelled?

[Anonymous No.53375067]

>>53375020
https://www.youtube.com/@tastyliveshow
https://www.youtube.com/@spotgamma
https://www.youtube.com/@TheMaverickofWallStreet
https://www.youtube.com/@stevenvanmetre5087 (do not buy any stock that steve mentions, or any of his services)

[Anonymous No.53375097]

>>53375059
no it got worse since Dec 22

blue line is 1/12/22
red line is 20/1/23

[Anonymous No.53375105]

>>53375059
It's even more deeply inverted. The yield should be higher for long dated bonds but it's completely flipped.

[Anonymous No.53375119]

>>53375059
>>53375097
shit

[Anonymous No.53375120]

>>53374949
He just needs to endorse a troubled bank now, has he said anything about credit suisse lately?

[Anonymous No.53375131]

>>53374852
a lot of banks and tech

[Anonymous No.53375148]

Turning 30 in a few weeks. I'm honestly hoping the market crashes harder so I can slurp now that I have a good paying job.

[Anonymous No.53375149]

> you will never be fired by Google and get a six-figure severance

[Anonymous No.53375156]

>>53375059
>>53375097
>>53375105
Oh shit nevermind I am dumb it is still inverted
My brain just jumped to "curve not flat = OK!! :)"
The bond market has been fucked for so long I forgot what it's supposed to look like....

[Anonymous No.53375175]

>>53374777
>An economy needs to be as regulated and planned as possible
and
>Daily reminder that finance and economics are pseudoscientific make believe garbage
how do you plan something pseudoscientific?

[Anonymous No.53375199]

>>53375119
people stopped buying short-term and started buying more even more longterm, is this a softening of the fedpivot expectations and a transition into people expecting higher rates for longer?

[Anonymous No.53375210]

>>53375020
>good strategies
1. have income
2. just keep buying
saved you some time

[Anonymous No.53375228]

>>53375210
>>53375020
1. have monies
2. make more monies

[Anonymous No.53375237]

>>53375199
consensus trades have a habit of not working

[Anonymous No.53375246]

>>53375067
the last 2 are scammers that know nothing about the market and only want your money

[Anonymous No.53375252]

>>53374785
Oh god...
I do business with some of those companies

[Anonymous No.53375283]

i think black betty is a pretty cool guy
eh destroys the market and don't afraid of anything

[Anonymous No.53375317]

>>53375252
you do business with anime girls, I am jelly

[Anonymous No.53375335]

>>53375246
Him telling his viewers to buy energy at the top, while tech was being butchered was embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.53375336]

>>53375317
Oops, I replied to the wrong post
>>53374852
Oh god...
I do business with some of those companies

[Anonymous No.53375338]

>>53375119
I wonder what kind of gigabrains trade bonds. Nobody talks about the bond market usually, because it's boring and opaque. Yet it's a gigantic market with supposed gigantic predictive power. If the market predicts well, then the people buying and selling predict well.

[Anonymous No.53375372]

>>53375335
they will tell you anything with so much confidence that it's just distracting in my opinion

[Anonymous No.53375374]

I am once again shilling SKYT.
I have also recently been diagnosed with myocarditis, likely as a result of the booster I was forced to get for grad school.
Help.

[Anonymous No.53375396]

>>53375374
>the vax claims another
stop shilling. Enjoy what’s left of your short life

[Anonymous No.53375427]

>>53375338
The thing with bonds is, it's inherently retail-unfriendly because your upside is defined and relatively low while your downside is still 100%. Not to mention the unit quantity is $1000 which makes it hard to diversify. So at the end of the day, you are putting hours of research into why it shouldn't default, but you can still get BTFO by a black swan and if you don't... enjoy your single digit return.

I do have some 3M treasuries in my port right now (which might be a mistake with the debt ceiling lol)... but unless there's really compelling yields I don't see a need to try to buy corporate debt.

[Anonymous No.53375433]

>>53375372
>they say things with confidence and that is distracting
>not being able to think for yourself
you don't need to listen to their videos and agree with 100% of everything they're saying
you need to think for yourself
they are all helpful for staying on top of the markets
if your issue is that they speak with so much confidence that you believe them and execute a trade based solely on what some youtuber said, that's on you

[Anonymous No.53375443]

>>53375396
I was too based for this gay world anyways

[Anonymous No.53375452]

>>53375338
Its boring.
They talk about it on in the media sometimes but to get someone from a bank to go on a show is rare because you can't shill for bonds (lol) like you can for a stock.

SMG is to poor and young to be buy lots of bonds anyway.

[Anonymous No.53375485]

>>53375433
>they are all helpful for staying on top of the markets

muh look at this chart/number ... muh look at this other number... muh other number higher
meanwhile you are just sitting there "duuuurrrr consoooom"
go fuck yourself simp

[Anonymous No.53375496]

>>53375374
what is this meme company I keep hearing about
You know that for old shit like 90nm+ a lot of semiconductor companies have internal fabs right? Including in the USA??
I could see a bull case for GloFo since they IPO'd but for a smallfry like this it seems their best bet is getting bought out

are you for real with the myocarditis?

[Anonymous No.53375504]

>a stock trader who had died in a trading accident
God I wish that were me

[Anonymous No.53375508]

>>53375374
damn dude that sucks. the people who forced it at universities need to have repercussions. the shot should have been stopped as soon as there was even a chance of getting myocarditis.

[Anonymous No.53375522]

>>53375485
zoomer, please lurk more

[Jealous No.53375527]

Water fu?

[Anonymous No.53375531]

Keep selling at the wrong times.

[Anonymous No.53375547]

I don't even know what's going on at this point.

[Anonymous No.53375550]

>>53375496
SKYT has ties to the DoD and might become a little pet project of theirs.
It really all depends on their earnings in February. Either I will be spamming threads with smug Pepes or pink wojaks.
I have a mild form of it, yes. Obviously as a result of the booster.

[Anonymous No.53375551]

>>53374852
Pump monday
Pump tuesday
After hours market goes down like 2% because fuck you.
Down wednesday
Down thursday
Spontaneous giga pump on friday because fuck you.

[Anonymous No.53375562]

Threadly reminder that dividends are irrelevant. If you want a bit of cash from your stocks, you can sell some.

[Anonymous No.53375589]

>>53375452
>too poor
What about that 48 year old divorcee who lives in a condo and makes youtube videos screaming about how /smg/ is retarded? Or the gookfucker?

[Anonymous No.53375598]

what's a good taboo portfolio? What am I missing here? Any good dodgy fashion names? Big data. I have a feeling the clown world portfolio will outperform this decade.
Oil n Gas, tobacco, big banks, defence companies, gold/diamond mines in Africa, palm oil, liqueur companies, coal mines, pawn brokers, paper/pulp manufacture, casinos/gambling/betting, fast food. When do bio companies bottom?

[Anonymous No.53375607]

>>53375522
No.

[Anonymous No.53375657]

>>53375589
Baggie has some money but is degenerate gambler and won't do the DD on junk bonds.

[Anonymous No.53375683]

>>53375427
If we reach peak QT it'd make sense to buy some bonderinos because the Fed is probably overshooting and will try to prop up bonds without making it look like a pivot. Otherwise I'm more interested in utilities and gold
>>53375452
I guess you can be degenerate trading junk bonds?

[Anonymous No.53375709]

>>53375657
It's impossible for /smg/ to be poor, everyone on /biz/ says they're 32 years old and making 500k TC at a silicon valley company (none of them know each other though).

[Anonymous No.53375764]

>>53375709
uh, i'm 29 bro not an boomer yet

[Anonymous No.53375783]

>>53375547

[Anonymous No.53375793]

V shape glide path achieved?

[Anonymous No.53375799]

>>53375709
Theres only a couple guys that said they make over 200k, most of the top earners are in the 100-200krange I think. There are a few of us with 6fig profiles and only like 2 over 7 figs.
>>53375657
I have never seen the tripfags post their profiles.

[Anonymous No.53375802]

>>53375550
Ah yes the DoD Made in USA requirement
If they specialize in classified & ITAR-compliant it could be viable after all.

That is rough re the shot. I had no trouble with them but Pfizer was gentler than Moderna, my mom had long covid symptoms for about a month from the 2nd MRNA dose. Hope any symptoms you have are manageable.

[Anonymous No.53375819]

>>53375799
>I have never seen the tripfags post their profiles.
Are you saying they'd lie about having 8 figs? No, people wouldn't do that. Going on the internet and lying for e-clout. The very idea.

[Anonymous No.53375828]

>>53375709
I am not 30 yet so I'm not allowed to buy bonds or my broker (Female) will laugh at me.

>>53375799
Weird is it?

[Anonymous No.53375854]

>>53375799
There are more than two posters with 7 fig ports. Probably closer to 10.

[Anonymous No.53375858]

>>53375709
>everyone on /biz/ says they're 32 years old and making 500k TC at a silicon valley
Now hold on a minute. I browse /biz/ and have made no such claims. You'd have to pay me a lot more than that to work on Big Tech spyware, especially in California.

[Anonymous No.53375867]

>>53375550
>ties to the DoD
Go read about the history of the military's "Trusted Foundry" program. Short version is: none of the US chip manufacturers wanted to bother with it because it didn't generate enough revenue.

[Anonymous No.53375868]

Wealthy people don’t post on biz because all they need to do is buy shit like SCHD and VOO.
It’s not for them. It’s for young people with somewhat decent savings to try and get enough money to dump it into VOO one day and chill.

[Anonymous No.53375871]

>>53375854
we can't have too many more than a couple hundred regular posters in total. That doesn't sound right.

[Anonymous No.53375877]

>>53375867
I have fren. That was before a lot of new circumstances. I admit it’s risky but it’s not stupid.

[Anonymous No.53375878]

>>53374875
Jpow is going to turn the printers back on. The world order can't survive with out quantitative easing.

[Anonymous No.53375897]

>>53375854
They dont post much then.

[Anonymous No.53375907]

>>53375878
>Jpow is going to turn the printers back on. The world order can't survive with out quantitative easing.
in other words "they will pivot, they have to" -- you're not answering the question(s)
how will cutting rates by 0.25% in July 2023 improve earnings for the next 6 quarters, when the consumer is broke, and monetary policy lags and doesn't reflect in the economy for 12-18 months

[Anonymous No.53375920]

>>53375683
>the Fed is probably overshooting
I've heard this before enough times to be suspicious
Of course there are real impacts starting to be visible but for now it's in meme tech
Wish I'd beefed up my gold miner positions a little more in the post-invasion slump but I was too demoralized after ""buying the dip"" one too many times
As for bonds, I don't trust anything beyond a year or so duration regardless. Who knows what the fuck will happen right now.

[Anonymous No.53375925]

>>53375897
>>53375871
Not regular posters, no. Of the daily posters I'm only aware of 2.

[Anonymous No.53375949]

>>53375854
Don’t forget there are some Boomers here.
There might also be a Silent here with a seven-figure portfolio who only ever invested in CDs.

[Anonymous No.53375954]

Jerome doesn’t control shit and is at the whims of (((people))) far above them.
If they see the wheels starting to break they will turn off the heat enough to keep them going.
Jerome is just a mouthpiece, that’s why nobody believes him.
“Muh inflation is transitory”
He was wrong about that and he will be wrong now.

[Anonymous No.53375971]

>>53375020
>that genually want to inform and make good strategies
why would they be on yt and not managing a fund?

[Anonymous No.53375988]

>>53375175
>how do you plan something pseudoscientific?
you don't

[Anonymous No.53375989]

>>53375971
Because you don’t have the (((connections)))

[Anonymous No.53376028]

>>53375020
Stockado on yt is a pajeet who doesn't shill things.

[Anonymous No.53376033]

>>53375907
Because markets are forward looking? Obviously?

[Anonymous No.53376039]

>>53375709
>impossible for /smg/ to be poor
yeah right

[Anonymous No.53376043]

Started work on my taxes. Preliminary results are looking like I'm gonna get back an even fatter refund than last year with me owing nothing. Won't know exact number till E-Trade puts out the 1099 on the 15th though. P.S - Don't buy the red baron pizza melts at KR/WMT. Its a shat ripoff. Unless you like paying over 3 for a small slice of bread with cheese & pepperoni on it. KR also is peddling a frozen grilled cheese and ham and cheese sandwich. They're shat, but not as shat as the pizza melts. At least you get two full sized sandwiches in a box.

[Anonymous No.53376053]

>>53376043
Holy fuck dude nobody cares about your taxes boomer anon

[Anonymous No.53376062]

>>53375709
>stock market general
>posters a bunch of jobqueers
now I know why I hate everyone here

[Anonymous No.53376075]

>>53376053
2/3 of his post is about pizza melts

[Anonymous No.53376098]

>>53376033
>6 consecutive quarters of bad earnings is priced in
yeah it's forward looking, but it still responds to bad news
why do you think we dumped so hard on retail sales data - market still doesn't believe we're going into a recession and that the consumer is strong
even the "best" (laughable) mainstream economists polled put it at a 61% chance - there is still 39% cope and delusion
https://www.wsj.com/articles/despite-easing-price-pressures-economists-in-wsj-survey-still-see-recession-this-year-11673723571
the market has not priced in a severe recession, as the market still doesn't even think it's going to happen
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/davos-2023-heres-what-top-ce-os-are-saying-about-a-recession-134755299.html
read some of the comments from CEOs at davos, they are delusional, think the consumer is very strong, and that we will not have a recession - everyone is optimistic

[Anonymous No.53376103]

>>53376062
Why not? less you've really made it theres no reason not to.

[Anonymous No.53376112]

>>53376033
>Because markets are forward looking
do you really believe that most people aren't just retarded?

[Anonymous No.53376120]

>>53376103
>Why not?
>Why not?
>Why not?
>Why not?

[Anonymous No.53376168]

>53376120
Didn't realize you're a retarded, i withdraw my (You).

[Anonymous No.53376204]

>>53376043
Should have gone with NESN the Stouffer's pizza was just over $3 for two slices at my store on sale. It's still kind of a ripoff for what it is but it's convenient.

[Anonymous No.53376218]

>>53374867

[Anonymous No.53376228]

>>53376098
Buy gold and utilities?

[Anonymous No.53376240]

>>53376204
For me it is Jack's

[Anonymous No.53376282]

>>53376228
utilities will outperform in the recession
I don't know about gold - that's more mixed could go either way
I believe the relative strength of the dollar will not continue to get crushed - everyone and their grandmother has accepted "the dollar is going lower" narrative it seems like
I also think the terminal rate is moving higher, which will move the dollar up higher
I also see big sale of stocks and bonds, which will push up demand for dollars relative to these assets
but, if the dollar continues to get crushed, then gold is a good long trade too
I just think that the mainstream view of dollar crush is wrong

[Anonymous No.53376311]

>>53374777

If you don't see why this is a problem then you're not paying attention or you just have no interest in your own survival or that of others. This is for everyone's benefit, if you don't agree then you should just go kill yourself so you can stop being a burden on society.

Every single human being alive has the right to live a happy fulfilling life without having to work more than they need to survive and without having to worry about money. We all deserve to be free from the tyranny of the capitalist system. The time for change is now!

A lot of people seem to find it hard to accept that capitalism is inherently exploitative and unsustainable because it has always existed before. Sure there were periods of high growth but this was only due to external factors like war, colonialism, slavery, resource extraction, mass deforestation, population explosions, etc... These things simply made it look like capitalism was working. In reality it was actually destroying the environment faster than ever before and making humanity less sustainable while enriching a few at the cost of the many.

It's also very easy to forget that the foundation of capitalism is the exploitation of labor. Our ancestors had to work hard to get their hands on food, clothing and shelter which was a luxury for most. They had to work long hours for low wages and the employer could do whatever they wanted with them as long as they kept producing. The more productive they were the more they were paid and the more they were exploited. This is still true today. People who are considered to be "unproductive" are not valued and are treated as disposable. You are either an asset (human capital) or a liability depending on how much profit can be extracted from you.

Labor exploitation is not limited to factory workers.

#EndCapitalism #EndSystemicInjustice #EndFascism #EndOppression

[Anonymous No.53376314]

>>53376282
PRICED IN
>PRICED IN
you dumb schizo bear

[Anonymous No.53376329]

>>53376311
Socialism only works in white or Asian societies.
Sorry tranny.

[Anonymous No.53376356]

>>53376282
Well for me gold is nice to have as a real hard asset. In my view there's three scenarios for our debt based fiat system where interest+principal means the debt burden is constantly growing, sucking out wealth, and burdening the people:
1. The Fed pulls off a controlled demolition of the zombie companies and a slow wave of bankruptcy actually relieves the chronic debt burden. Congress pays down debt (delevers). Long term this would be great for the dollar economy and it is obviously deflationary at first. But I have no idea if they can do it.
2. The demolition is not controlled, there's credit collapse and massive debt deflation and Great Depression 2.0
3. The Fed does a massive pivot, signalling to the market that the Fed will *always* bail you out, causing everyone to engorge themselves on debt- now you get hyperinflation.

I want to own an asset that is independent of this debt based ponzi game, in case scenario 1 (debt relief via bankruptcy) does not work out

[Anonymous No.53376392]

>>53376356
5% to 10% of your networth should be in pm’s if you’re schizo like me

[Anonymous No.53376394]

>>53376356
I shouldn't call it a ponzi, it's not really that. But basing a currency on debt with interest is kinda scary desu. And we seem to be at some kind of inflection point

[Anonymous No.53376399]

>>53376329
>Socialism only works in-
Socialism doesn't work at all
The only societies in which it appears to work are the ones where the USA is footing the defense bill
Everywhere else it results in resource scarcity and, eventually, poverty
The Only Good Commie Is A Dead Commie

[Anonymous No.53376433]

>>53376120
4chan is just normalfags now.

[Anonymous No.53376434]

>>53376314
shrieking priced in doesn't make it so
see >>53376098 a recession is not priced in

[Anonymous No.53376442]

>>53376394
>I shouldn't call it a ponzi
you are right, the real ponzi scheme is the pension system

[Anonymous No.53376457]

I think the yield curve isn't inverted enough. jpow said he's going to lower soon. 10 year should be the average of 10 years right? well they even admit they want to go back to zero as soon as possible. 3.6% is way above zero

[Anonymous No.53376468]

What are we watching for movie night?
No more Boeing dramas, horror only plz.

[Anonymous No.53376471]

>>53376457
When did he say he wants to lower?

[Anonymous No.53376532]

>>53376394
the dollar/debt is based on "the full faith and credit of the US" which really means the tax payer, as long as people continue to use the dollar and pay taxes (growing population) it will continue

[Anonymous No.53376538]

>>53376471
doublespeak. he says "oh its way too soon to talk about lowering" but in the next breath he'll say 2024 they'll start cutting.
but in actual history they normally will do one slow cut of 25 bps and then emergency cut to zero at the first sign of pain.
(when they have to do it that's not bullish, but does anyone really believe the average interest rate will be over 3.6% for the next 10 years?)

[Anonymous No.53376547]

>>53376468
Chairman of the Board

[Anonymous No.53376557]

>>53376532
At 5% interest rates and full refinancing, half of the federal budget would be interest repayment.

And private corpos don't have taxpayers to fleece.

[Anonymous No.53376560]

>>53376547
>chairman of the bored

[Anonymous No.53376624]

>>53376547
Hard pass

[Anonymous No.53376696]

Holy fuck myocarditis anon here I think I’m gonna call an ambulance jfc

[Anonymous No.53376702]

should I fap today?

[Anonymous No.53376703]

>>53376560
That’s a book

[Anonymous No.53376709]

>>53376702
No

[Anonymous No.53376710]

>>53376702
no

[Anonymous No.53376723]

>>53376702
Probably. Not much else to do on the weekend.

[Anonymous No.53376734]

>>53376696
What are you waiting for, call that ambulance

[Anonymous No.53376737]

>>53376557
who is the debt owed to? who receives the interest payments? isn't most of it the public?

[Anonymous No.53376782]

>>53376696
take some aspirin if not larping

[Anonymous No.53376796]

>>53376737
you say as if that was any better, if the US ever defaults their economy is fucked

[Anonymous No.53376826]

>>53376734
>>53376782
I did guys the body aches
I think I’m fucked
You’re welcome for SIGa

[Anonymous No.53376834]

>>53376702
You shouldn't fap any day
t. faps every day

[Anonymous No.53376847]

>>53376737
All money originates as a liability to the central bank. The bank lends out the money to commercial banks, who lend it out at interest, this is how money originates. The government does not print its own money, it taxes it or indebts itself. Therefore, all money originates with (((bankers))) (sorry, couldn't resist that joke) and not really with the government. Since interest is charged on money brought into circulation, there is always more debt around than could ever be repaid, so you need inflation and ever more debt in circulation to keep the usury bearable. Yes, the system is defined by usury.

An exception is when the central bank buys gubment bonds. Since it is not allowed to make a profit, the gubment interest payments to the central bank can be returned to gubment. But this is supposed to be exceptional, QE is a recent thing

[Anonymous No.53376859]

>>53376826
the "vaccines" were the greatest crime against the people. they must pay.

[Anonymous No.53376864]

>>53376847
Forgot to mention, since there is more debt around than can be repaid, the system is at chronic risk of deflation, and not actually inflation. Since if systemic debt is too high the creditors have to scramble for dollars, sell off assets, kill demand, lower prices, etc. The only way to get relief from the yoke is bankruptcies

[Anonymous No.53376868]

>>53376702
Yes

[Anonymous No.53376891]

>>53376737
The people who receive interest on gubment debt are just the people buying bonds, including foreigners and banks. But banks lend out to individuals and corporations, of course

[Anonymous No.53376947]

>>53376847
I understand how money originates, what's to stop the government from just continuing to issue more treasuries? Isn't the debt money? As in if all debt was repaid, there are no more dollars?
>>53376796
it would never happen, if it got that bad the bond holders would still get paid the nominal amount even it was worth nothing at that point

[Anonymous No.53376965]

>>53376947
>even it was worth nothing at that point
it would be even worse

[Anonymous No.53376987]

hi
/g/ says it's time to buy tech stocks
are they right?

[Anonymous No.53376988]

>futes

[Anonymous No.53376993]

>>53376947
>what's to stop the government from just continuing to issue more treasuries?
Well, the growth of treasuries you'd have to originate would be exponential, and you can't really solve the problem of being indebted by taking on more debt.

Also, at some point it becomes clear that you are intent on devaluing your own currency (assuming that you are unwilling or unable to repay your debt). This causes people to flee your bonds because they realize the nominal repayment can only be made by reducing it to worthlessness.

>As in if all debt was repaid, there are no more dollars?
Physically impossible. In this system, if a bank creates 100 dollars by lending it out, it also charges (for example) 5 dollars on the principal a year in interest. Say you've got one bank and one person, and the bank brings 100 dollar into circulation but expects 105 back, this is physically impossible. And that's just interest for a year. That's why you need to put the system into more debt to redeem existing debt.

[Anonymous No.53376997]

>>53376947
>what's to stop the government from just continuing to issue more treasuries
1.5T dollars in deficit and 535 Keynesians in congress

[Anonymous No.53377013]

>>53376993
What I mean with exponential growth: say you are indebted for 100 bil. usd as a government and cannot tax your way out, you'd need to take on debt + interest (say 5%) to redeem existing debt, well now you're just more indebted, and every time you repeat this, you add 1.05 to the power of X to the debt burden

[Anonymous No.53377018]

>>53376987
Not during earnings

[Anonymous No.53377089]

speculators are still net short bonds, and equities. I think this rally has legs

[Anonymous No.53377124]

>>53376987
/g/ gives even worse advice than /biz/

[Anonymous No.53377135]

>>53376947
Final remark: I think you're too fixated on the government. Private sector and households are just as impacted by how a debt-based currency originates, if not more, since they can't force the central bank to bail them out temporarily with more debt

[Anonymous No.53377166]

Has anyone had success managing a self-directed IRA or investing in China? I want to pull all my money out of the American market and invest in rare earths, EVs, chipmaking and other growth-oriented speculations there. In additional to Chinese 'blue chip' stocks & bonds, I suppose. What is the easiest way do to this and what are the tax implications? I would like to trade directly on PRC exchanges and have as little money going to American corporations as possible.

What is the best way to do this? What are the tax implications? Does anyone have experience here?

Thanks.

[Anonymous No.53377181]

>>53377124
theyre the same community

thats why crypto and soxl is so widespread here, or at least it was

[Anonymous No.53377194]

>>53377166
Well as a foreigner you cannot trade A class stocks. If you want 'real' stocks, I think you can get those on the Hong Kong exchange, I would advice against ADRs in America because those make a murky investment case even worse.

But idk if I'd invest in Chinese companies, the accounting is suspected to be rife with fraud, the government views you as a foreign pig, you have 0 real property rights, and if Xi sneezes wrong entire sectors get wiped out. I used to invest in Russia, another state with ADRs in the West and no real property rights, and if I'd continued to do that, most of my portfolio would've been wiped out after Ukraine.

If you want to go for rare earths, why not look at the resource stocks in Canada or Australia?

[Anonymous No.53377216]

How much money do I need to be able to request 2B as my female stock broker

[Anonymous No.53377223]

15 minutes ran up jannie. :)

[Anonymous No.53377243]

>>53375562
if u want capital gains then just reinvest the dividends so long as u dont have to pay taxes

id rather get cash and reinvest it rather than see it wasted on esg bullshit or other failures like metaverse

[Anonymous No.53377245]

>>53375149
What is on the screen?

[Anonymous No.53377250]

>>53376987
/g/ is mostly made up of CS college sophomores that don’t know what they’re doing and vomit back Hacker News except with nigger occasionally thrown in
At my FAGMAN-tier dystopian globalhomo employer, everyone is expecting at least one more round of layoffs despite management claiming otherwise

[Anonymous No.53377258]

>>53377181
/biz/ overlaps with /g/ and /pol/
/g/ overlaps with /biz/ and /a/
/pol/ overlaps with /biz/ and /gif/

[Anonymous No.53377259]

>>53377223
Thanks for contributing to the thread in a quality way.

[Anonymous No.53377275]

>>53376993
>you can't really solve the problem of being indebted by taking on more debt.

Isn't that what we've done the past 100 years? Why stop now? The Fed is intent on devaluing though, but only 2% per year :^) Also if all money is issued by banks, the interest you need to repay the loan was also issued by a bank so if all debt is paid, there is no money.
>>53377135
I guess they feel it through inflation which is what the deficit really is, an extra tax levied on everyone and future generations.

[Anonymous No.53377281]

>>53375374
Is it rootin? Is it tootin?

[Anonymous No.53377348]

>>53375504
The first traders would spend months alone in the woods hunting beaver for their fur. They lived off the land and fucked native waifus. We need to get back to our roots.

[Anonymous No.53377372]

>>53375374
i was wall of text blogposting about how shitty the jab was when it first came out but got banned for it
at least I tried

[Anonymous No.53377389]

>>53376311
Karl Marx JEW

The first Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party:

Krylenko Russian
Lounatcharski Russian
Ulyanov (Lenin) JEW
Bronstein (Trotsky) JEW
Apfelbaum (Zinovief) JEW
Lourie (Larine) JEW
Ouritski JEW
Volodarski JEW
Rosenfeldt (Kamanef) JEW
Smidovitch JEW
Sverdlof (Yankel) JEW
Nakhamkes (Steklof) JEW

The first Council of the People’s Commissars:

Foreign Affairs Tchitcherine Russian
Nationalities Djugashvili (Stalin) Georgian
Agriculture Protian Armenian
Public Instruction Lounatcharsky Russian
Ulyanov (Lenin) JEW
Economic Council Lourie (Larine) JEW
Food Schlichter JEW
Army & Navy Bronstein (Trotsky) JEW
State Control Lander JEW
State Lands Kauffman JEW
Works V. Schmidt JEW
Social Relief E. Lelina (Knigissen) JEWess
Religions Spitzberg JEW
Interior Apfelbaum (Zinovief) JEW
Hygiene Anvelt JEW
Finance Isidore Goukovski JEW
Press Volodarski JEW
Elections Ouritski JEW
Justice I. Steinberg JEW
Refugees Fenigstein JEW
Refugees (assist.) Savitch JEW
Refugees (assist.) Zaslovski JEW

[Anonymous No.53377433]

>>53377243
Unfortunately DRIP does not avoid capital gains. You get taxed solely by having the amount paid out. I felt so ripped off when I learned that last tax season.

[Anonymous No.53377440]

>>53377275
>the interest you need to repay the loan was also issued by a bank
Nah dude, it doesn't work that way, that's why I gave the simplistic example of one bank and one person. It just scales up to the entire economy. So if the banks loan out 4 trillion in a year, they'd ask 200 billion of interest on top of the money they bring into circulation. This physically cannot be repaid- if they would loan out this amount once and then stop you would have a deflation crash in 2 or 3 years. In toto there is always more debt around than can be repaid. Normally this is not a problem, but if you blow up a debt bubble so much that you pay 1/3 of income or earnings in interest, and then face some sort of recession or inflation of prices, people start to get fucked, and the spiral begins.
>The Fed is intent on devaluing though, but only 2% per year :^)
Yeah but the interest charged on money brought into circulation is much higher than 2%, that's why debt to gdp always goes up over time until the credit cycle turns
>I guess they feel it through inflation which is what the deficit really is, an extra tax levied on everyone and future generations.
No, not just inflation, private sector debt to gdp is something like 250% in the USA. Many corporations pay out a fifth or earnings in interest, imagine if they'd have to refinance at higher rates...
>I guess they feel it through inflation
You don't necessarily get price inflation with ballooning debt, we've had ballooning debt since about 2000 but actually not that much inflation. Like I said, the fundamental risk is always deflation, and price inflation does not change the fundamental sum where a system always needs more money repaid than is around.

[Anonymous No.53377450]

>>53374777
meds

[Anonymous No.53377483]

>>53375374
>was forced to get
No anon, you bent the knee like a good little bitch when you was asked.

[Anonymous No.53377512]

>>53377194
Thanks for the informative post. Based on my initial research, it seems like the HKSE is the most foreigner-friendly exchange so that just might be at the center of my search. They have apparently opened up broad foreign access to mainland A-Shares by partnering with the SSE, see "Shanghai-Hong Kong Stock Connect". However, I would only be starting with $5k max so I wonder how this would affect my eligibility. Might require me to depend on parties here in the U.S. for market access.

I understand various risks are involved with China but I'm willing to take them. I feel a jurisdiction and market like Hong Kong would mitigate a lot of it. It's basically a matter of principle. I don't want my retirement to profit the New World Order. I don't want to be a cash cow for Wall Street anymore.

I eventually want my IRA to be moved completely offshore because there are risks in the U.S. of such intensify and magnitude that by 2065 I don't think I'll want to live here anymore. My faith will be openly persecuted or covertly subverted. I'm going to prepare to retire abroad.

[Anonymous No.53377539]

im the one that shilled SBNY originally. sorry if anyone lost money but it genuinely defies logic that this bank is still solvent let alone having positive stock growth.
im sticking to my thesis and buying more puts. i just wanted you to see im not a coward

[Anonymous No.53377540]

>>53374777
Capitalism is the perfect system for contiuation of itself. Everyone has to work, wheel & deal for capital if they don't already have it. Some are going to make it as a function of that system. It doesn't matter who they are or where they came from, they will automatically become allies of the system because they will want to protect what they have aquired. Meanwhile the enemies of the system, those that want to tear it down, are those that have little to no capital & therefore are powerless to do anything but blog post daily on /smg/ in the hope that one day they will find a favourable ear to fall upon & thus they can feel better knowing there are others like them who didn't make it. Ultimately being of no consequence.

[Anonymous No.53377571]

>>53377372
i just realized that the jab disproportionately injures whites more because euro people have more ACE2 receptors.

[Anonymous No.53377579]

>>53377512
>I understand various risks are involved with China but I'm willing to take them. I feel a jurisdiction and market like Hong Kong would mitigate a lot of it.
I still dunno, anon, I had to eat a lot of shit on China. I used to say 'these guys are just capitalists painted red, they're not commies, they want stability and growth and that's it', but more and more it seems like the Chinese system has instability, arbitrariness, and a complete lack of rights at its core. High risk/high reward it does make some sense (although my opinion is: high risk, medium reward), but I'd at least diversify into countries that seem a little more stable, like India, Japan, Korea... Well, it's your choice.

[Anonymous No.53377581]

One 4 hour old /smg/ in the catlog
also the rest of the catlog are literally just bot threads.

[Anonymous No.53377604]

>>53377581
are we bots too?

[Anonymous No.53377606]

>>53377571
It injures mostly healthy, thin, people. Spike proteins are supposed to stay in the fat cells around the injection site. Healthy people don't have a lot of fat so the proteins end up going to the fat of the heart which cause problems.

[Anonymous No.53377633]

>>53376399
>What is Nazi Germany
>What is Singapore
>What is France
>What is Denmark
>What is Switzerland

[Anonymous No.53377637]

>>53377604
>1pbtid
likely

[Anonymous No.53377686]

When is Ukraine's next 100b aid package?

[Anonymous No.53377691]

>>53377440
That is how it works, if there were only one bank and one person, that person could work for the bank and the money would always go in a loop originating at the bank and ending there.

[Anonymous No.53377694]

If I get a brokerage account with JPM/BAC/WF can I buy bonds they lead on the secondary market? Schwab doesn't give me access to every bond.

[Anonymous No.53377698]

>>53375954
>transitory - not permanent
He was right by that definition. It’s almost 3% down from what it was back last summer already.

[Anonymous No.53377715]

>>53374901
Bro you should be in finance or some shit.

[Anonymous No.53377719]

>>53377698
that was when interest rates were 0.25% and they said they didn't need to raise them to curb inflation

[Anonymous No.53377742]

>>53375120
Or perhaps BoA

[Anonymous No.53377744]

>>53375338
>I wonder what kind of gigabrains trade bonds
It's not really gigabrains, it's people with more info than us and the FED. FEDs data is lagging and half the time cooked, and we're obviously just ants on the ground. There's big money out there that has real time and forward data. That's why curve inversions have 100% accuracy (3m/10y).

It's not just a hedge. There is a massive problem somewhere in the global economy that nobody but a select few can see. You don't fight the central bank of the strongest nation with the worlds reserve currency unless you know something. Not a prediction, it's a warning. But I'm sure not even they know when it'll show itself. Maybe the problem is the FED itself?

[Anonymous No.53377748]

>>53375427
Just wait for the next financial crisis and pick up quality company bonds for like 15-25% of their face value

[Anonymous No.53377751]

>>53377604
I know I am

[Anonymous No.53377764]

>>53374777
It's this kind of pseudo-communist propaganda that reproduces like a cancer cell, not capitalism. Free market capitalism is about reducing the burden on workers and promoting leisure, not enslaving large swaths of the population as slaves. Karl Marxs philosophy borrows from Adam Smith to emphasize this very basic point. The LTV was borrowed from Adam Smith as well. An economy of burdensome tiresome toil and exploitation is not a capitalist economy. No economy can survive on such a tenant. Wealth, defined by Adam Smith, is the amount of leisure and luxury provided to a person. That's why marxs theory of value is derived from Smiths. Slavery is a condition of economic ignorance borrowed from feudalism. The economy is so strained today because of people's incapacity to understand the basic tenants of good economy, not because capitalism.

[Anonymous No.53377767]

>>53377579
Yeah, diversification doesn't sound like a bad idea, but it'd have to be to independent-minded countries outside the NWO like Saudi Arabia or perhaps some of the CIS states. I think China will still be the backbone of the portfolio.

Unlike Russia, which is an oil-exporting nation with minimal FDI and almost nothing to lose, China is so interconnected with the West that any infringement upon foreigners' investments will provoke retaliatory action so destructively severe that it is a sort of economic mutually assured destruction.

Neither Western or Chinese elites can afford to decouple.

[Anonymous No.53377782]

if I wanna play a rally in natural gas with stocks would it make sense to invest in fertilizer names like nutrien?

[Anonymous No.53377787]

>>53377764
It's a pasta so I wouldn't get too worked up if I were you.

[Anonymous No.53377790]

So what is the plan if the treasury mints THE COIN?

[Anonymous No.53377807]

>>53374763
Reminder if Bitcoin pumps then Coinbase stock pumps with it when the market opens.

And it Bitcoing starts going way down then that's time to put down a put option on Coinbase.

[Anonymous No.53377812]

>>53377790
If it gets to that point it's over. That will open the flood gates to minting more and more trillion dollar coins.

[Anonymous No.53377845]

Wtf happened on Friday? What was the news? Thinking of slurping SQQQ Monday morning depending on the answer.

[Anonymous No.53377872]

>>53374875
pivot mumus, I am still waiting for one of you brave enough to answer these questions
>monetary policy lags 12-18 months
>how will a 0.25% interest rate cut in July 2023 boost retail sales, boost corporate profits, and be reflected in Q1, Q2, Q3, Q4 earnings for this year
please mumu
no more
>priced in!
>pivot is bullish!
please answer how a 0.25% cut will boost earnings this year when monetary policy lags - how would a pivot boost earnings this year?
where are you brave mumus

[Anonymous No.53377885]

>>53377787
Clever because it mirrors the attitude of the general population who assume capitalism = slavery and exploitation.

[Anonymous No.53377889]

>>53377790
If I had the coin, could I break it for change at my local Fed branch?

[Anonymous No.53377897]

spicy rycey

[Anonymous No.53377934]

>>53377782
Fertilizer ended up not performing well due to a supply glut when the weather wasn't great. It's going to be wetter this year, which will wash away applied fertilizer, resulting in more needing to be bought. Could work out. I think MOS has a little more room to run than NTR but NTR looks a little more stable.

[Anonymous No.53377956]

>>53377579
>I used to say 'these guys are just capitalists painted red, they're not commies, they want stability and growth and that's it
LOL

[Anonymous No.53377979]

>>53377767
>economic mutually assured destruction
cope

[Anonymous No.53377984]

>>53377782
are you expecting this rally soon? im a natty gas bagholder so its good to see a post like this.

[Anonymous No.53377989]

>>53377790
they would need to print at least 2

[Anonymous No.53377993]

>>53374763
the reason the jewish media likes to tout "max pain" in markets is because its all fraud. the jews rob everyone nad runs investing promotions 23/7 to steal more. what ever will cause the most loss and suffering is what the jews do. the only way to not be robbed by jewish organized crime in all electronic "markets" is to never ever give them money. tell your family freinds and children the truth. All electronic investment markets exist only to rob people. All stocks and bonds are rigged by jews to rob people. fact

[Anonymous No.53378014]

>>53377845
was it just good earning from Netflix? What pumped the markets?

[Anonymous No.53378021]

>>53378014
It wasn't even particularly good earnings for Netflix.

[Anonymous No.53378040]

>>53375338
Banks

[Anonymous No.53378057]

>>53375067
>he unironically linked maverick of wall street

he is head midwit at Bobo Industries, he will tell you to short the bottom, this lil schizo needs medication, and you do too

[Anonymous No.53378156]

Govt is over 31 trillion in the hole. Read somewhere it'd take every working age person in America coughing up 100,000 in order to pay it off. Fat chance of that happening. Or you know the govt could say "we found 31 trillion extra dollars" since they control the money creation computer. But fat chance of that happening to. What will happen; debt can will get kicked down the road, more money will be wasted on dumb shat and hey as the dead line looms (June) you may get cheap stocks to bag.

[Anonymous No.53378195]

>>53377216

Why are her tits poking out through her shirt? This seems to be inappropriate office attire

[Anonymous No.53378223]

>>53378195
Nah, how do you think women get pay raises? A little skin showing, a few back room blowjobs and presto more money on next month's check.

[Anonymous No.53378225]

>>53378057
https://www.tbsnews.net/world/global-economy/us-home-sales-slump-11th-month-log-largest-annual-drop-2008-571542
:^)

[Anonymous No.53378233]

Don’t forget your weekly ice bath
Look at the gains we got yesterday from my ice baths

[Anonymous No.53378326]

>>53378223

This is unacceptable. Why in God's name would you let a woman wonder around the office wearing tight clothing that shows off her breasts and and fat ass? Well I never in a million years......

[Anonymous No.53378366]

>>53378233
But Why??

[Anonymous No.53378397]

>>53378021
...mmk. sounds like I'm opening a big SQQQ position Monday morning.

[Anonymous No.53378415]

>>53374875
>a 0.25% rate cut in July 2023
I stopped reading right there.
There will be no rate cuts for the remainder of this decade.

[Anonymous No.53378424]

>>53378233
>>53378366
To increase his adrenaline and fuck his liver up more. Part of the (((their))) plan to slowly destroy us.

[Anonymous No.53378426]

what news is going to tell me what to buy on monday?

[Anonymous No.53378427]

>>53378233
I just do cold showers

[Anonymous No.53378474]

>>53377698
What does a still positive rate of inflation really do for you? Means the hefty price increases of the last two years still remain in the system on average... and getting worse.

[Anonymous No.53378484]

Uranium

[Anonymous No.53378489]

>>53378426
Monday is a day to sell, not to buy.

[Anonymous No.53378507]

oh my god

[Anonymous No.53378523]

>>53378507
Spell it out for a retard (me) please

[Anonymous No.53378558]

>>53378489
you got news to back that claim up?

[Anonymous No.53378575]

>>53378558
Literally no news to justify my opinion, sorry.

[Anonymous No.53378588]

>>53378415
>There will be no rate cuts
I agree that it is going to take much longer than the market expects. but I am just trying to show mumu who believes that there will be a pivot, that even if there was this pivot that the market is pricing in / expects, it won't really do anything for 12-18 months
even if they did pivot, even if they did cut 0.25% in July 2023, it will not put money in the pockets of the consumer who is tapped out - it will not boost retail sales, it will not boost corporate earnings, it will not "save the market"

[Anonymous No.53378609]

Are we etnering, in or leaving a recession

[Anonymous No.53378618]

>>53378523
the chart is showing that fund managers are holding less stocks than usual. bulls will claim that when everyone is leaning the same way it doesn't work out for them, and the pain trade is higher. bears will say that the fund managers are right to stay out of equities. i will claim is that if bond yields drop or are predicted to drop, lots of money coming back to stocks.

[Anonymous No.53378631]

>>53378366
For portfolio gains

[Anonymous No.53378651]

>>53378609
both

[Anonymous No.53378689]

>>53378618
Learn to read retard.
The graph explicitly shows that they are underweighting US equities

[Anonymous No.53378693]

>>53378225
two more weeks till the bobos big 1929 crash

[Anonymous No.53378706]

>>53378618
Thanks

>>53378689
I think that's what
>fund managers are holding less stocks than usual
means

[Anonymous No.53378710]

>>53378689
yeah i know, what did i say that contradicts that?

[Anonymous No.53378727]

>>53378706
>>53378710
There are stocks outside of the US, they've also been running significantly better since around October

[Anonymous No.53378744]

>>53377540
So you are describing cancer

[Anonymous No.53378766]

>>53378727
weird how you assume that the chart is making a point about non-US stocks holdings, which it isn't. your brain might be broken friend.

[Anonymous No.53378780]

>>53378766

[Anonymous No.53378783]

>>53377691
If there were only one bank and one borrower and the bank created $100 to loan the borrower and he then owed the bank $120, he would eventually pay back $99 to the bank and the one remaining dollar, due to its scarcity, would be worth a great deal. That’s deflation. To avoid that (and to pay back the other $21 he owes) the borrower would borrow another $100 from the bank. Now he owes $121, and there are $101 in existence. That’s going to be inflation, as more money keeps getting printed than can ever be paid back (by definition) and the economy only really survives as long as you keep printing money. But of course if you print too much you inflate it’s value away and that can also cause a collapse of the system.

[Anonymous No.53378804]

>>53378233
are those garlic cloves?

[Anonymous No.53378844]

>>53378225
Yes, the boom in RE meant more homes being sold and now the wake of that means less homes being sold because everyone bought during the boom.

[Anonymous No.53378851]

>>53378609
entering / are in one currently, beginning stages / second month of one - we only began to see "recession data prints" at the end of november, into december

[Anonymous No.53378863]

>>53378744
No anon, cancer did not or has not ever made anyone wealthy, at least not until someone discovers a cure. Cancer did not lead to technological innovation the likes of which no other ages has known. All cancer ever did was mutate cells in its host & kill people, Capitalism lifted hundreds of millions from poverty. Stop with that retarded retort & educate yourself instead of being a commie sheep

[Anonymous No.53378874]

>>53378844
>a boom coming to an end is bullish
>a massive decrease in housing activity and all the connected industries in relation to housing is bullish
>pic related is bullish

[Anonymous No.53378878]

Lol. Big tech really is going to zero.

[Anonymous No.53378880]

>>53378783
Well, you explained it for me.
The debt deflation part of course comes from not everyone being in debt, people needing money for other stuff, etc. So say you have 1000 usd in loans to 10 people, with 200 needed in interest. Well if some people are actually saving money, say 300 usd, that leaves 700 for paybacks. Now say everyone who is not indebted will always keep 400 on hand for food, rent, etc. So potential liquidity is now 300 usd.
If you get a debt deflation event and people start selling assets to deleverage, that sucks liquidity out of the system. In our example they need to repay 1200 in toto (already impossible) but all the liquidity that will be available is 300 usd. The higher the debt in the system is, the smaller available liquidity would be

[Anonymous No.53378896]

Any risky buys for monday my frens
Got about 7k to play with

[Anonymous No.53378912]

>>53377579
With Re-Opening of China, check out Sinopec Kantons / SPKOY - basically like China’s version of an MLP. Has a great yield paid twice yearly, but volume is slim so use limit orders. Basically the storage and pipeline arm of Sinopec.

[Anonymous No.53378916]

>>53378896
0dte QQQ calls

[Anonymous No.53378933]

>>53378896
GULTU … how can you not win when a security has “ultra deep” in its name?

[Anonymous No.53378948]

>>53378874
>2x that of 2017 - when nobody was panicking about anything.
2x isn't much (lol having to type that out in stock market general)
Also isn't that what DA FED is trying to do, cool things down? Seems to be working.

[Anonymous No.53378979]

>>53378804
No, it's ice. That's the shape my freezer makes them in for some reason, idk why

[Anonymous No.53378982]

Whens a good time to short WWE? Vince betraying ass failed to save NFL and forever ruined wrestling entertainment as a "legacy".

[Anonymous No.53378987]

>>53378948
>2x isn't much
>a 68% cancellation rate isn't that much
peak 2008-2009 cancellation rate was ~47%, it is literally worse than 2008

[Anonymous No.53378993]

How the hell do brokers read through all these boring financial reports like 10Ks, 10Qs etc? My adhd retard brain takes like an hour to digest just one of them. Are there brokers out there speed reading through these every few minutes?

[Anonymous No.53379010]

Why do bears get so schizophrenic on the weekend?

[Anonymous No.53379013]

>>53378987
Sorry pal, your numbers just don't add up.

[Anonymous No.53379019]

>>53378993
https://youtu.be/qAYXgbSlSv0

[Anonymous No.53379026]

>>53378896
Why the do zoomers always want to gamble their money to get rich quick. If you want an acutall risky buy do an earnings play on any stock that has earnings >>53374852 If you don't know how to do one look up tasty trade and research their earnings play.
Also only put aside aprox 5% of that 7k

[Anonymous No.53379046]

>>53379013
https://fortune.com/2023/01/12/fed-housing-market-reset-homebuilder-cancellation-rate-spike-kb-home/
https://archive.. ph/zRwjm
>january 12, 2023
>Historically speaking, a 68% cancellation rate is off the charts. Even during the darkest days of the 2008-era crash, the average builder cancellation rate only reached 47%.

[Anonymous No.53379048]

>>53378948
Insane level of cope, I kneel

[Anonymous No.53379059]

>>53379046
Good that means the bottom is in

[Anonymous No.53379086]

>>53379046
>>53379048
Unprecedented boom unprecedented bust, turning up the volume doesn't change the song, dummies, just means you leveled up that's it.

[Anonymous No.53379091]

>>53379059
this was in a quarter that was supposed to be okay, when we were "not in a recession"
this was before we began to have horrible recession data prints - the economy has gotten worse since then, not better
the layoffs have only increased since then
this is just the beginning of the recession, not the end
Q1 earnings are going to be even worse than these Q4 earnings (which are already bad)

[Anonymous No.53379096]

>>53379091
Uh no

[Anonymous No.53379098]

>>53379059
It's probably mainly caused by the mortgage rate spike so yeah

[Anonymous No.53379108]

>>53378993
By not having ADHD

[Anonymous No.53379118]

>>53379096
uh yes
>department stores -6.6%
>gasoline stations -4.6%
>furniture -2.5%
in a single month

[Anonymous No.53379146]

Mumus are delusional.

[Anonymous No.53379162]

Should I put $50k or $100k into SQQQ monday morning?

[Anonymous No.53379164]

>>53379146
>-16% down 13 months into bobos big crash

be honest lil bobo. you thought we'd be down 40% by now didnt you?

[Anonymous No.53379166]

What percentage of homes are sold to RE professionals?

[Anonymous No.53379176]

>>53379164
it takes time - we are patient

[Anonymous No.53379219]

>>53379026
I'm already pretty crypto rich but I wanna keep playing and cashed out only 50k.

t. 28 finfag

[Anonymous No.53379229]

>>53379176
>uncontrolled demolition and black swan
vs.
>controlled demolition notified well ahead of time

[Anonymous No.53379240]

>>53379219
fair enough get into options if you want to gamble it's pretty fulfilling

[Anonymous No.53379258]

>>53379162
I’d wait and see how it looks on Monday, this little rally may or may not be over in nasdaq just yet. maybe later in the week though

[Anonymous No.53379269]

>>53379229
even with a "controlled demolition notified well ahead of time" you can still have a financial crisis as evidenced by UK pension blow up in the autumn of this year
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-pension-funds-ask-corporates-cash-after-gilt-blow-up-sources-2022-09-30/
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/29/pension-fund-panic-led-to-bank-of-englands-emergency-intervention.html

[Anonymous No.53379270]

>>53379176
This, we are still 18% above pre chink flu levels and had higher rallies last year going into febuarary and march had like a 10% rally

[Anonymous No.53379280]

>>53379176
> Comparing now to the global financial crisis.
Anon you must have a room temp IQ.
There is no leverage crisis, there is no liquidity crisis. We are more comparable to 1970’s inflation cycle and the decades after that was the 80’s and 90’s
Bullish.

[Anonymous No.53379291]

realistically speaking, how much do I need in dividend stocks or ETFs to comfortably live in Argentina?

[Anonymous No.53379349]

>>53379291
Let's keep thot posting to a minimum please. I finished my janny application today and I won't be tolerating Serena posting

[Anonymous No.53379364]

>>53379291

[Anonymous No.53379390]

>>53379349
I put you in the smg classroom oc and this is how you treat me?
I swear this to you rocker, when I make it I'll post argentinian cunny here everyday until I die

[Anonymous No.53379405]

how do i short the housing market?
thinking i can borrow someone's house, sell it to some shmuck for 300k, wait for the market to crash, buy it back for 2k and return it to the original guy
problem is, I don't know anyone who will let me borrow their house for a couple grand

[Anonymous No.53379448]

>>53379364
do they accept dollars (or euros)?

[Anonymous No.53379471]

>>53379405
DRV. or short AMT, CCI, PLD

[Anonymous No.53379488]

>>53379280
see
>>53379269
>there's no leverage crisis
>there's no liquidity crisis
we literally just had a pension fund leverage / liquidity crisis in september lmao

[Anonymous No.53379501]

>>53378783
the bank can always buy the borrower's assets
or the borrower declares bankruptcy and the bank gets his assets anyway

[Anonymous No.53379531]

>>53378863
>has not ever made anyone wealthy, at least not until someone discovers a cure
not even the chemotherapy companies?

[Anonymous No.53379573]

>>53379026
>Why the do zoomers always want to gamble their money to get rich quick
being stupid is a multigenerational trait

[Anonymous No.53379634]

I don't believe in cryptocurrency. I hate that these crypto peasants are all smug again.

[Anonymous No.53379639]

>>53379291
depends on the officers you'll need to bribe

[Anonymous No.53379660]

>>53379390
Kek, I intend to become a janny and ben literally nobody. This board needs to be restored to it's former glory

[Anonymous No.53379682]

>>53379660
We can’t even post abstract merchants

[Anonymous No.53379702]

>>53379682
we are all merchants here

[Anonymous No.53379752]

>>53379660
not going to happen

[Anonymous No.53379769]

Opinions on investing on VRFB's?

[Anonymous No.53379794]

>>53379448
You'll want to bring physical euros/dollars with you. 10k is the limit to avoid declaring. There are local shops where you can convert under the table. Everyone does that, it's nothing sketchy. I'm not sure if there's any efficient way to convert larger piles of money.
Blue dollar rate is the unofficial exchange rate from USD to ARS (their pesos). Currently around 1:370.

I'm not sure about cost of living at this point, since its constantly changing.

[Anonymous No.53379839]

>>53374852
I could see that whole week being a potential giga dump. Banks and credit companies are reporting dire shit. Charge offs are through the roof and savings are at all time lows right now.

[Anonymous No.53379926]

>>53379794
can I bring 200 gold eagles since they have a face value of $50?

[Anonymous No.53380095]

>>53377934
MOS is another name I'm eyeing.

[Anonymous No.53380126]

>>53379488
No one gives a shit about U.K. pensions. The U.K. is basically an emerging market tier economy now. Only USA and China matter.

[Anonymous No.53380154]

>>53379926
>carrying $400k worth of valuables on your person into a South American country
sounds like a great idea anon. keep us posted.

[Anonymous No.53380180]

I've decided to pursue my China investment strategy by focusing on the HKEX because it's the most foreigner-friendly. But for long-term growth I find that a lot of the ETFs they offer are jacked. China is currently an export economy, but growth isn't going to be in exports (they've peaked) but rather the domestic market as it undergoes the same transformation between 2020 — 2060 that the U.S. went between 1950 — 1990. As we know, the exports became less competitive and services plus technology and financials became the focus. The U.S. helped China become what the U.S. once was and China will help the rest of the world become what China once was with industrial development. It will become a second U.S. for the global economy and probably the main economic actor throughout the third world.

Simply have to repeat whatever was profitable between 1950 — 1990 but on the Chinese market. I'd start with domestic retailers, domestic industries important for the State, domestic package delivery companies & 'gig economy' apps as well as international beneficiaries of Chinese investment. Essentially think what people will be spending money on when they move from $12,000 to $36,000 a year on average and the State begins to become more internationally active. No need to focus on high risk 'disruptors' because we've seen this type of development before.

Free money?

[Anonymous No.53380204]

How do I invest in artificial intelligence? I want to buy some stocks before GPT-4 comes out.

[Anonymous No.53380228]

>>53380204
AIO

[Anonymous No.53380235]

>>53380208
>>53380208
>>53380208
>>53380208

[Anonymous No.53380244]

>>53380180
Not while Xi Pingas's hissy fits wreck the market

[Anonymous No.53380251]

>>53380126
>No one gives a shit about U.K.
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/030116/top-three-financial-centres-world.asp
>2. London
you do not understand how interconnected the financial system is. a crisis in one country is a crisis in all, due to the fall out and exposure that all the banks have to one another.
every institution, bank, firm, is overextended, overleveraged - they did not learn any lessons from '08 crisis; we just saw a financial crisis averted by central bank intervention just 3 months ago
these risks are still there

[Anonymous No.53380788]

>>53375020
The trading channel.

[Anonymous No.53382052]

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