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stock market discussion thread

the quicker fucker upper edition

previous discussion
>>53308445

>> No.53312231

links:

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiOs3-llXq5CGQPNHf_3-nYZ4d_w7OP52

>Financial TV Streams:
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-fox-business-network-fbn-free-24-7/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc:
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://wallmine.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/

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WHOA BLACK BETTY

>> No.53312238

Intel is the best semi company at these prices. I really do apologize if this makes you upset

>> No.53312244

Another idiot thread baked by idiots

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>>53312218
no links and hidden from others... you are sick man Baggeeeett

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>>53312237

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53312267

Awfully quiet today

>> No.53312273

how fucked are Japanese stocks gonna be tomorrow?

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>>53312188
pretty much either garbage like cathie, biomemes and crypto pumps or everything including bond prices dump
it's lose lose really

>> No.53312285

I hate long weekends and niggers. We're back baby

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If you’re long you’re literally retarded. The simple reality is that earnings cannot withstand economic contraction. If it’s not this earnings season, it’ll be next. Not priced in considering the Dow is 5% from ATHs.

>> No.53312291

>>53312273
The only thing that matters this week is what happens in Davos.

>> No.53312293

PROPERLY BAKED THREAD:

>53312257

>53312257

>53312257

>> No.53312296

>>53312285
That's kinda racist don't you think?

>> No.53312312

>>53312291
>The only thing that matters this week is what happens in Davos.
To who? /pol/ jews? twitter jews? lol
who gives a fuck.

>> No.53312317

>>53312296
Who cares, if it’s true?

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>>53312296
Yes

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53312335

why are futures so red?
i have a bad feeling about this

>> No.53312352

>>53312115
>buy 100 shares at $10
>sell $15 strike price call with expiration in 3 months for $100
>buy 10 shares with those $100
>cost basis is now $9.1 since I got 10 shares for "free"
>if price stays between $10 and $15 for the next three months, I make 100% profit
>if the price goes above $15, I have to buy 100 shares for $15, which is a loss of $1500
>but the 110 shares I have are now worth $1650, so I have a net gain of $150
>if the price falls below $10, I still come out ahead as long as it stays above $9 because I got those 10 extra shares
Am I getting this right? Seems kinda hard to believe that I could get enough for the call I sold where it would be worth it

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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/17/goldman-sachs-fourth-quarter-results-are-coming-what-the-street-expects.html
>Goldman Sachs posts its worst earnings miss in a decade as revenue falls while expenses rise
>worst earnings miss in a decade
>worst earnings miss in a decade
>worst earnings miss in a decade
>Earnings of $3.32 per share vs. $5.48 estimate of analysts surveyed by Refinitiv
>Revenue of $10.59 billion vs. $10.83 billion estimate
>quarterly profit plunged 66% from a year earlier to $1.33 billion, or $3.32 per share, about 39% below the consensus estimate. That made for the largest EPS miss since Oct. 2011
>Widely expected to be awful, Goldman Sachs’ Q4 results were even more miserable than anticipated
>Goldman posted a $972 million provision for credit losses in the quarter, compared with $344 million a year earlier, as the bank set aside more funds for potential losses in credit card and point-of-sale loan portfolios. That is 50% more than analysts had expected for the quarter.
but don't you see - every single bank amassing hundreds and hundreds of millions for credit losses means that the economy is strong, and that there isn't any risk of defaults!! what do the banks know? nothing! they don't know the credit risk of their customers - they don't know their finances! nothing to see here!
>>53312099
>>53311962
Empire manufacturing for January -32.9 versus -11.2 last month. Estimate -9.0. This is the lowest since May 2020. Eleven percent of respondents reported that conditions had improved over the month, and forty-four percent reported that conditions had worsened
>the lowest since May 2020
>44% reported conditions had worsened
economic conditions rapidly worsening this badly is bullish! don't you see!! the economy collapsing, earnings collapsing, it's bullish!! as it means the Fed will lower interest rates by 0.25%!! the 0.25% cut in July will surely force the economy into a V shaped recovery, so I'm buying stocks, now!!
>this is your brain on greed/delusion

>> No.53312371

>>53312293
>Can't link a thread properly
>Expects me to believe it was properly baked

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>>53312335
((Goldman)) missed expectations. Now everyone must suffer.

>> No.53312375

So how much lower are we going?

>> No.53312388

normally i hate baggie, but this time i really think hes a putz

>> No.53312405

>>53312285
I hate weekends and everyone

>> No.53312438

>>53312355
Isn't that double miss just a sign that inflation is over and we're entering a period of price stability and economic prosperity?

>> No.53312442

>>53312312
some of the fed speaks there on wed or thurs or something

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>>53312375
>>53312372
we closed green and futes are red
so unless we are green today then this chart is 107% invalid

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>>53312443
This is worse than astrology

>> No.53312468

>>53312443
What counts as red or green as opposed to crab? Futures did fuck all today. It's 4 points down from friday's close, that's basically nothing. If anything, this is crab futures.

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>TLT

>> No.53312482

>>53312442
sounds like the sort of thing that would cause a bagholder to lose sleep

>> No.53312508

>>53312465
>>53312468
the vagueness of the chart will keep people claim it is right
even after the maker said he was just joking
basically Mormonism

>> No.53312509

>>53312472
Did you buy high again?

>> No.53312517

>>53312468
Good guess?This chart is based
Wrong guess?Sorry that's a crab anon why did (You) thought it was,lamo

>> No.53312522

(((they))) are going to announce the one world new order government at Davos tomorrow. This is going to send markets soaring to new highs as investors rejoice at the unveiling of our new overlords.

>> No.53312530

>>53312508
*claiming

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Short tech

>> No.53312545

>>53312509
no, but I was planning on it.

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>>53312522
All hail the BGC (Big Globalist Cock)

>> No.53312558

>>53312443
it didn't close yesterday tho

>> No.53312572

>>53312544
way ahead of you fellow bear, I shorted meme stock RBLX yesterday and I'm proud to be holding the biggest bags in /smg/ today

>> No.53312574

>>53312558
so crab and red futes or crab and crab futes?

>> No.53312666

who ese gambling on short squeeze meme stocks this morning?

>> No.53312685

>>53312666
You a fellow NEGGer, Satan?

>> No.53312703

>>53312666
im starting to think that pltr and rkt are not so meme

>> No.53312707

>>53312685
no i missed that unfortuantely, im on APRN right now but if NEGG looks like its still got room i will jump in too. i only want to be in and out in a fast trade to avoid risk, i lost too much on GME the last time

>> No.53312711

>>53312574
the year of the crab

>> No.53312723

nvda just can't go down...

>> No.53312743

>>53312554
that is a turd. If your cock looks like this, sue the surgeon who did your bottom operation

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WHEN IS IT ORU TMIE BOBROS WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>> No.53312780

>>53312743
its a depiction of dr martin luther the king junior carrying some piece of shit to the promised land

>> No.53312788

BUY BUY BUY REDDIT

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What's for breakfast /smg/?

>> No.53312816

>>53312768
>>53312788
What's going on?

>> No.53312817

SPY will never be above 400 EVER again, mumus lost.

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everything but SOXL is red
Lum wins again

>> No.53312857

>>53312815
Liquor, because my teeth hurt

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>>53312815
icy cold bangs
300 mg of caffeine straight into my blood

>> No.53312901

what the fuck is CYAD doing im too scared to buy is anyone else in that shit right now

>> No.53312942

>>53312816
once in a life time dip for the new golden bull run you have to buy otherwise you'll miss out

>> No.53313100

>>53312815
It's human flesh isn't it?

>> No.53313115

>>53313100
Checked and it looks like a couple fried eggs with hot sauce on some steak, pretty kino breakfast desu.

>> No.53313158

benchods we're over 400

>> No.53313173

>>53312218
Imagine not being long $COIN..

>> No.53313191

wtfwt

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53313977

Lunch time

>> No.53314032

>>53313977
who is this? she's beautiful?

>> No.53314041

what the hell is with these threads. every time you come here theres like 5 threads all at 300 posts

>> No.53314140

>>53314032
>>53313977
seconding request and also would like tit pics if there are any

>> No.53315112

>>53314032
great set of tits on her
i seen't it

>> No.53315131

>>53314041
noooo stop noticing the retardation of bakers, YOU'RE THE RETARDED ONE

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>don't post in Baggot threads
>ignore Baggot posts
>filter Baggot and any and all shilled tickers
profit

>> No.53315198

>>53315153
but its pretty cozy here. you don't get that in the other threads. financially im upset because i set the trigger too low again and sold something that was apparently going to pump much harder

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THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

dividends are a healthy part of a balanced portfolio and by no means the only thing you should strive for. figure your own shit out. divvies are making me financially independent tho

>> No.53315298

>>53315276
this
so much this

>> No.53315338

>>53315248
if more countries start trading commodities with other than $$$ the US reserve currency status is useless and will be gone. maybe not in 1 year but give it some time and we'll check again

>> No.53315350

>>53315276
based dividend chad strikes again.
when will these unwashed plebs realise that dividends ARE the way to sustainable wealth?
either way, may quarterly blessings come your way fren

>> No.53315378

>>53315276
Any stock that doesn’t pay out a dividend is a glorified shitcoin, it has no intrinsic value and you’re trading it purely on greater fool theory

>> No.53315421

>>53315338
Not really, petrodollar is a semi myth imo
The main draw is the relative stability of the US economy and our military power
Like the fact is our Navy is basically security for cargo ships, China could and would never
The USD isn't going anywhere

>> No.53315423

>>53315350
>quarterly
i wish. everything i have is yearly

>> No.53315429

>>53315378
This is false. A stock that buys back their own stock can achieve infinite intrinsic value.

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>>53315276
one of my dividends was cut recently

>> No.53315480

>>53312218
>84 replies
>Meanwhile three real /SMG/ threads have reached the bump limit

>> No.53315539

>>53315468
if my divvies get cut in my dividend portfolio (not counting ETFs like VOO), i almost invariably sell the position and reinvest into a very safe divvy stock like JNJ or PG

>> No.53315554

>>53315480
i dunno, maybe people have me filtered so they can't find this thread and have to keep making new ones.

>> No.53315557

>slow pace
>divvy chad discussions
yeah i'm thinking this is the thread

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>>53315421
US biggest debt world wide by a wide margin now imagine you lose the ability to pay nothing in imports because you need to trade in other currency together with big money outflow from international investors
it's over for US at this point

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Bobros ...

>> No.53315578

>>53315554
Well gee tripfag now why might they be filtering you?

Also, if you genuinely want to make a new thread when the old one dies, here's some tips:
Don't use a tripcode so that everyone (and I mean everyone in the SMG) can find it, filters or not
And format it the same way as the previous thread, so that it matches

>> No.53315601

>>53315296
>>53315296
>>53315296
real thread
>>53315296
>>53315296
>>53315296
real thread

>> No.53315615

>>53315578
thanks, but no thanks.

>> No.53315631
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I stand with Baggot.
You have my axe.

>> No.53315705

>>53315631
and my ritalin

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>>53315631
and my Lum!

>> No.53315753

>>53315563
The debt will be defaulted on probably the last day the US exists, until then it's irrelevant

>> No.53315798

>>53315601
thanks, sage!

>> No.53315955

>>53315601
leave it to some namefag like sage to go and fuck up the title in his "real thread"

>> No.53316679

>>53312355
rates aren't high enough yet.

>> No.53316705
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what should i buy to turn $10k into $50k in 6 months?

>> No.53316826

>>53316705
That's a pretty tall order. You pretty much have to be juggling calls/puts.

>> No.53316876

>>53316705
you need some insider knowledge

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I had to wait a 3 day weekend for this?

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

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Can you fucking dickheads stop FUCKING selling?

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.53317770

its over

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>>53317770
It's not just over. It's JOEver.

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RUN FOR THE HILLS

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>- 0.3%

This can't be happening

>> No.53317817

>tech goes down
>investors flee to the Dow
>Goldman Sachs goes down
>investors flee back to the NASDAQ

What’s to stop investors from just eternally going back and forth and crabbing the S&P500? They’re hell bent on avoiding Bonds at all costs at this rate

>> No.53317848

>>53317817
Bonds do be kinda gay

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>>53317790
not my problem fat

>> No.53317918

>>53312355
>Why do you keep repeating yourself?
>Why do you keep repeating yourself?
>Why do you keep repeating yourself?

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>>53312218
>>53312218
>>53312218
threads are split wat now?

>> No.53318946

JOE BIDEN HAS A CRACK HEAD SON RAPD HIS DAUGHTER AND SELLS CLASSIFIDS TO CHINA HE IS A DEMENTIA RIDDLES LIAR SCUM NIGGER LOVER

>> No.53319343

>>53318946
yes but how does this affect the market

>> No.53320363

>>53312443
I'm still waiting for the 25k, the growth became inevitable, it's gotten to the point where it's making things get listed out of nowhere like vinu, it's a good day to punch bobo

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>futures..

>> No.53320383

>>53320376
the future is green

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The Fed Juice remains in a Buy. Bear market most likely over. Fed will keep supporting the markets in the back end.

>> No.53320541

Why the thread split?

>> No.53321010

>>53317848
I just spent the last 15 minutes looking at the yield curve. It flipped me off and put its dick in my salad. Then it camed in it.

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>>53318946
Weird take but how does this affect MSFT?

>> No.53321056

Guys I think I understand now that bears are going to be fucked tomorrow. BOJ is going to announce QE with their bond buying, then the debt ceiling will be negotiated by raising the debt ceiling, i.e a form of QE. Soft landing confirmed to be a soft pivot but not by the fed. The market is going to blast through 400 and higher this week.

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It's almost that most magical time of year, tax season!
How are you (((legally))) avoiding taxes this year anons? You ARE taking advantage of every opportunity to lower your tax burden through 401ks/IRAs/HSAs/write-offs/depreciation/etc, aren't you?

>> No.53321175

>>53321150
I fucked up by not realizing that short term capital losses are treated differently from long term ones.

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Unironically, does SOXL actually have a chance of ever getting back to the 30-40 range? Asking for a friend with an average in the 20s

>> No.53321204

>>53321150
I'm planning to depreciate about $2200 worth of musical equipment I bought but this will be the first time I've done that. I should just take the full amount of depreciation that I can, right?

>>53321175
What's the difference?

>> No.53321211

>>53321150
I made enough gains to comfortably buy turbo tax. I cant not pay taxes because I get financial aide for school.

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Any restaurant stock niggas in here? Any names you're liking rn?

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>MUH HECKIN SOFT LANDING

>> No.53321259

>>53321219
ticker symbol DENN

>> No.53321260

Bear side is gettign crowded. Doesnt mean anything if the fundamentals are bad though. Everyone knew 2008 was bad and that didnt stop it from crashing.

>> No.53321276

>>53321204
Short term losses offset short term gains before they can be applied against long term ones. Long term losses (waiting a year+ to book a loss) are "worse" because they offset lower-rate long term gains first.

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We're about to dump to spy 340 and do it fast as fuck. Who knows after that.

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SPY to 200 before we even BEGIN dumping. SPY to 0 isn't off the table. We're going much, much lower.

>> No.53321308

>>53321259
maybe if they bring back the hobbit menu, I'll invest

>> No.53321318

Jan 17 (Reuters) - Carvana Co (CVNA.N) has adopted a "poison pill" to limit shareholders from raising their stakes and has reached an agreement to sell up to $4 billion of auto loans, the struggling used car retailer said on Tuesday.

The company's shares gained 6.5% to $7.47 in afternoon trade.

Ally Bank and Ally Financial will buy the loans, the company said, giving Carvana a fresh source of funding as it tries to restructure its operations.

2 shitstocks link up
need it or keep it?

>> No.53321328

Bros I work at a very large hedge fund. Today senior leadership sent out a note saying to expect extreme vol tomorrow due to Japan news. I've never seen them worried like they are now since I started at the firm. Anyone else hearing rumblings of major happenings?

>> No.53321347

>>53321276
Long term losses suck. I'm gonna be stuck with a few thousand in long term losses this year when RSX liquidates.
Having some qualified dividends is the best way to safely ensure some of your gains are locked in at the lower tax rate.

>> No.53321369

>>53321318
sneed it. also,

>Carvana

>> No.53321387

>>53321328
BOJ about to unsheath its katana to cut the ribbon to the gigaprinter

>> No.53321391
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53321391

>>53321328
>Japan news
hahaha oh man, haven't heard about "Japan news" in a while

>> No.53321393

>>53321328
they will unveil their working nuclear weapon(s)

>> No.53321397

>>53321328
Its another Evergrande, we will never recover

>> No.53321418

>>53321260
The spy is too damn high, its time to lower it. Higher for longer until major layoffs happen. Currently the market is just absorbing layoffs without a problem

>> No.53321419
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53321419

>Stocks
>2023

>> No.53321425
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53321425

>/smg/ only has 180 posts after 12 hours
This board is fucking dead

>> No.53321433
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53321433

>>53318946
very based and redpilled. also biden is not president, he lost the election and is an illegal pretender. therefore all federal income taxes are null and void because article 1 has been violated and we do not have representation.

>> No.53321434
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53321434

I don't even like stocks anymore

>> No.53321449
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>>53321328
All I have is my CEO at a smaller regional bank recently said banks like Citi and Wells Fargo might not be around someday. I don’t know how the fuck Biden could pull it off with McCarthy breathing down his neck, but then I saw this today

>> No.53321454
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53321454

>>53312290

>> No.53321457

>>53321180
Yes, when those companies actually do well. Right now, we're just trying to cast our fishing lines out as far as possible because we think we're gonna catch that biggest fish out there.

Turns out the biggest fish is in another ocean and we have to swim or boat to it.

>> No.53321459

>>53321449
debt max citi and wells fargo cards?

>> No.53321465

>>53321434
I like money market
free 4% and no risk until the market behaves and approaches a reasonable price

>> No.53321471
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>>53321328
All I know is a banker friend who is also a fed spilled the beans and said that my feb puts are going to make bank.

...and now he gets all pissy when he sees me because hes not supposed to talk fed banker shit when hes drunk.

>> No.53321477
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53321477

>>53321328
>due to Japan news
Not the waifus!

>> No.53321481

>>53321259
>>53321308
Remember to hedge with 50% DNN.

>> No.53321483
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53321483

>>53321328
Do I long or short USDJPY?

>> No.53321489

>>53321425
This one ran in parallel: >>53317707

But you're right that volume is bullishly low.

>> No.53321510
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53321510

>>53317702
I just can’t stop buying.

>> No.53321525
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53321525

>>53321278
Spy is going to 500 this year broski.

>> No.53321530
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53321530

>Futures

>> No.53321539

>>53321459
The debt would just get sold to someone else, anyone else remember Chase suspending all CC's in Canada in 2019 and forgiving the debt, that was interesting.

>> No.53321557

>>53321489
This shitty baggie thread is 12 hours old. There were 3 or 4 real threads (with links) that were baked, lived, and died throughout the day. No one wanted to be in this shit hole

>> No.53321567
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53321567

You should do as little trading as possible.

>> No.53321579

>>53321419
i would gamble cryptos if they weren't locked behind kyc. i don't trust that they will keep my data safe forever

>> No.53321605

>>53321260
In the short term it means green or at least a crab. I agree with you, but no one knows if we're going to get 2008 tier pain again

>> No.53321631

>>53321483
Short

>> No.53321661
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53321661

>>53321525
Can you imagine the chimpout from everyone if we did that in a year?

>> No.53321672
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53321672

>>53321661

>> No.53321708

wow everything is green in Asia, looks like bobocucks lose again

>> No.53321720
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53321720

>>53321672
Real talk if we hit 500 I'm selling everything though.

>> No.53321767

>>53312355
Counter-point, the market isn’t rational.
Get fucked.

>> No.53321781
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>>53321525
That is probable.

>> No.53321809
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>>53321781
Yeah just like that bullshit "santa rally" you were shilling, kpop fag.

>> No.53321841

>>53312218
>this thread has been up for over 12 hours
longest thread I’ve ever seen In the history of /smg/

>> No.53321844
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>>53321809
We did get a santa rally...

It happened in first five days of Jan. which is considered the "santa rally". Check the data.

Before we reach 500 we will probably see the lows of 300's.

>> No.53321849

S&P more like poop and pee.

>> No.53321856
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53321856

Santa rally!

>> No.53321855

>>53321844
Faggot

>> No.53321858

>>53321849 (You)
LOL

>> No.53321865
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53321865

>>53321844
Whenever the Santa Claus Rally spilled over into the first five days of January — and the remainder of the month — that creates an aphorism Wall Streeters call: “As goes January, so goes the year.” (Coincidentally, January 6 also marks "Three Kings Day" — an extension of the Christmas holiday for Spanish-speaking cultures).

>> No.53321884

I'm just going to buy KO every paycheck like T boomer

>> No.53321896

SOMEONE REDPILL WHY THIS IS STUPID
>write DEEP ITM CALLS (>50% lower than current price) 1 year out
>i earn a premium of $2500 dollars and pay only $5000 for the stock

WHAT IS THE DOWNSIDE FOR WRITING DEEP ITM COVERED CALLS
????

>> No.53321915

>nikkei

>> No.53321935

>>53321896
Naked? You lose money buying high selling low
Covered? Gains are capped

>> No.53321945
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53321945

>>53312218
>was long nkd at 26300
>auto trigger sold at 26325

>> No.53321961

>>53321935
that's what i figured, so it's really only an issue if the underlying goes >50% then i start losing potential money, but i could fix this buy buying deep OTM calls as well... very intreresting...

>> No.53321970
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53321970

Short CA munis

>> No.53321980

>>53321896
>pay only $5000 for the stock
are you currently holding the stock...?

if not then you're doing it naked, theoretical unlimited loss potential if it moons and you gotta buy it back i.e. if you get assigned. if covered then yeah i mean well, you lose your shares, it'll mean a forced sale too if assigned and you don't buy to close the call

>>53321961
>i could fix this buy buying deep OTM calls as well... very intreresting...
sounds like a credit spread (correct me other optionsfrens if i've misspoken)

>> No.53321987

>>53321980
it's a weird credit spread though because i hold the underlying. without holding the underlying their would be potential for big losses in the middle section of strikes

>> No.53322003
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53322003

What’s a good, lesser know defense stock? I already have RTX and LMT. Don’t like L3.

>> No.53322016

>>53321884
Consider KOF. Less political risk in South America; they're happy just getting fat: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/09/pepsi-coke-soda-federal-probe-00077126

>> No.53322019

BOJ continues printing. Will they ever raise the rate?

>> No.53322031

>>53321915
Nikkeidashi

>> No.53322041

>>53322003
I got CW recently. Looking to see where they end up.

>> No.53322043
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53322043

>>53322003
AVAV

>> No.53322044

>>53321896
Most of the premium isn't extrinsic value. So unless you close the position early you're wasting lots of time for little return. Synthetically that's the equivalent of selling a deep otm put.

>> No.53322047
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53322047

>>53321970
Are you that lower middle class Californian (scraping by on 160k/yr) who got an inflation relief check?

>> No.53322055

>>53322044
50% in a year if the stock is at all positive is not a waste of time IMO

>> No.53322060

Where are the Japanese getting the money to manage yield curve control? Printing it yeah but shouldnt the yen be getting slaughtered? They already have used 260 billion usd to protect the ycc

>> No.53322067

is this japan news going to giga pump the market or dump it?

>> No.53322078

>>53322041
Thanks
>>53322043
Thanks. Also:
>PE 1,456
Holy shit

>> No.53322080

>>53322060
I thought the explanation was that they're selling off US treasuries which weakens the dollar and strengthens the yen

>> No.53322086

>>53322047
Yeah. I feel more insulted than anything. That's still 2-3x what most of my friends make, and most other places in the country you could live like a king. Hope those pensions were worth it.

>> No.53322087
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53322087

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDOyaQLuumM

>> No.53322089
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53322089

>>53322067
giga crab

>> No.53322091
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53322091

Whats the deal with Nokia anyway?

Been holding this shit over a year and it's crab dip.

>> No.53322096

>>53322080
WEEKENADEDORA. SUTURENGUDEYEN
DESUNEEEEEE NEEEGAAA!

>> No.53322097

>>53322089
i hate crab posters. your answer displeases me.

>> No.53322101

>>53322060
They have the most US treasuries of any country. I know they had yen reserves for YCC, I don't know if those have ran out. There is incentive for the US to help as a flooding of 15% T-bills would assrape the market so bad.

>> No.53322116

>BREAKING: Apple has indefinitely postponed development of its standalone AR glasses and is planning a lower cost mixed-reality headset for next year as a follow-up to the first version coming this year.

>> No.53322124
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>>53322047
Shyyyyyt niigaa I’m poh

>> No.53322126

>>53321471
you could be making all that up but i believe you and am going to make financial decisions based off of this post.

>> No.53322135
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>>53322055
You're not really making that much. You only keep the extrinsic value. The premium is big because the strike price on the call you're selling is so low.
Under your logic I could sell the 20 call after buying 100 shares of a stock that's at 40 dollars, collect a premium of 2000. And I "made" money according to you. Without something on top of the 2000 I made nothing.
Basically you're a dumb gorilla nigger looking for free money. You. Will. Learn.

>> No.53322140

>>53322116
Good thing I don’t own Crapple stock. They’re topped out. Time for a new kang.

>> No.53322160

>>53322135
oh ok i get it, yeah that was stupid

>> No.53322172
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53322172

pussy inflation news

>> No.53322178

>>53322080
But selling them would cause yields to spike -- or are US institution's just buying every ten year above 3.5 yield?
>>53322101
I just dont understand where this money comes from. They had already used a hundred billion or more last year and its only gotten worse for them. Fed still dumping 40-60 billion from their books every month too. The fact that its doing NOTHING is what confuses me.

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>>53322172

>> No.53322197
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53322197

>>53312218
So TLT is a buy now? If inflation is coming in lower every CPI wouldn't that make it a good buying opportunity right now? I need TLT anons advice

>> No.53322201

>>53322172
Legalize prostitution. If only so we can lookup BLS statistics about "Sex Workers, Average Hourly Compensation" on Bloomberg terminals.

>> No.53322213

>>53322172
>$500 monthly plan
You're better off going to a massage parlor.

>> No.53322230

>>53321471
well all my puts are set to expire next year anyways so I'm hoping you're right. I just want a nice vol spike and my puts will be multibaggers.

>> No.53322233

>>53321471
so this lines up with FOMC meeting then.

>> No.53322239

>>53322197
Core cpi has not shown any falling action. The only thing that has downshifted price is a relaxation of supply side shocks.

>> No.53322240
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53322240

I’m longing total boomer and vaxxie death, I’m longing SCI.

>> No.53322251
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>>53321471
You are probably lying and making this shit up, but either way you are most likely correct.

>> No.53322252

>>53322178
Japan has been in a multi decade recession. The root of the cause was never fixed during this entire time. Only way out for the samurai is sudoko.

>> No.53322271

Japan just announced that DXY decline is over.
Pretty bearish for anything priced in dollars.

>> No.53322272

>>53322252
Why dont more businesses start in Japan. With that extremely low rate -- you could massively expand if your loans were out in yen.

>> No.53322279

How 2 profit off of Yen collapse?

>> No.53322286

>>53322279
TRADE FX you faggot.

>> No.53322305

N-NANI?!

>> No.53322311

what the fuck happened to make futures jump like that?

>> No.53322317

SAVA. Hot bag of dicks.
CVNA. Hot bag of dicks.
COIN. Hot bag of dicks.
TSLA. Hot bag of dicks.
CVAC. Hot bag of dicks.
BYND. Hot bag of dicks.
OTLY. Hot bag of dicks.
BBBY. Hot bag of dicks.
FUBO. Hot bag of dicks.
AFRM. Hot bag of dicks.
SHOP. Hot bag of dicks.


But you don't listen. Lol. Click. Clack. Clickety clack.

>> No.53322319

>>53322272
They only allow honorable samurai to setup show in Japan. Pure, untainted. rising sun blood only. Bless Japan. I really do hope they make it through this crisis. Better they stay strong than any of the other asians.

>> No.53322323

>>53322311
Astrology.

I have the prediction of every day for the next three months. Accuracy rate is 95%.

>> No.53322326

>>53322311
someone bought a lot

>> No.53322327

>>53322317
what about nvda

>> No.53322329

>>53322305
>>53322311
BoJ QE, which will likely get sold off when the yanks wake up.

>> No.53322335

Why the fuck would this be bullish? DXY skyrocketing because Japan won’t accept reality isn’t good

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53322336

>>53322329

>> No.53322338
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>>53322335
It's bullish because it's the status QUO. Risk ON.

>> No.53322340

>>53322327
oh no bhenchode this is not hot bagging of dicks but is normal tech betashit

>> No.53322341

>>53322335
>skyrocketing
>+0.44%

>> No.53322345

>>53322172
link??

>> No.53322346

>>53322338
Cathie is giong to fucking COOOOOOM.

>> No.53322352

>>53322338
is there an opposite one for bulls? don't think there was ever a brass bear tho

>> No.53322353

>>53322341
OHLY FUCK 0.44% FUCK FUCK FUCK THATS BAD MAN

>> No.53322356

Just further evidence of being a dollar supremacist being based

>> No.53322384

>>53322352
The only bible story that features bears that shows up on google is when Elisha, invoking God, makes 2 bears kill 42 kids for making fun of him being bald

>> No.53322390

You can STILL get in on COIN MARA and RIOT (stay away from SOS). This is the last time in letting anyone know. I don’t care if you buy just one share, I just want niggers to see once my calls start flying

>> No.53322405
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I blame jews

>> No.53322425

>>53322341
in forex thats equivalent to like a 5% up stock day. its a very large move.

>> No.53322454

>>53322425
DXY's been trading like penny stock ever since the Fed started hiking.
By the end of tomorrow, it'll be +1%.

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53322457

>futas

>> No.53322485
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53322485

>>53322425
DXY has been making such big moves lately that they regularly were large than SPX's. DXY still in the 102s is hardly skyrocketing.

Spot the skyrocket

>> No.53322494

>>53322390
As a general rule, I don't buy fundamentally worthless things where my only hope of profit is that some bigger retard pays me more to offload my bags.
Good luck though.

>> No.53322496

>>53322405
Blame me all you want
I can’t shift the timeline to one that doesn’t suck but I’m trying

>> No.53322499

digits and baggot never bakes another thread, shits been up for 14 hours and still isn't at limit

>> No.53322524

>>53322240

Very good, but consider XPH or PILL. Most of the deaths yet to be seen will be from cancers, and people will pay whatever they must, to pay to get the best chemo they can. The pharma jews will make bank from the boomers.

>> No.53322525
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And just like that futures are where they were 4 hours ago

>> No.53322526
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>>53312218
GLD puts would make money in the short term right? I see no reason as to why gold price would be climbing higher. Idk maybe I'm being retarded but why would gold go higher inflation is "cooling" off.

>> No.53322531

>>53322499
based, baggie is a faggot

>> No.53322545

>>53322384
norwoods seethe

>> No.53322564

>>53322341
what are you talking about? n225 is up 2% today from 3% up yesterday

>> No.53322587

>>53322352
>>53322384
well if you want to talk about bible stories, there was an episode early on in the book of exodus where the ancient jews, after having been freed as slaves from Egypt, started worshipping a literal golden bull while Moses was away talking to God on Mt. Sinai

Moses came back down and put a swift end to it though, by letting God kill the people who worshipped the golden bull. meaning, that the golden bull run is quite literally antithetical to God

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_calf

>> No.53322602

>>53322526
Saudis just announced openness to killing the petrodollar, there've been ominous amounts of central bank buying lately, low/not higher rates are bullish for PMs, and, oh yeah, there are 31 trillion worth of US treasuries floating out there.

>> No.53322605

>>53322587
>bobo strking down mumu to hell

>> No.53322614
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>> No.53322617

>>53322526

GLD doesn't move directly with CPI. Bearish gold would be making the same mistake GLD bulls made in 2021. They were right about inflation and look what it got em. Gold moves with money supply and is very forward looking. It's a big money macro-speculator's playground.

If you just want to play dis or deflation, much easier to short zombie tech corps IMO.

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53322624

>>53312468
NTA but I'm tempted to write a script to iterate over the S&P history from 1975, as that post says, and find the best correlation with various percent changes considered crabbing.

>> No.53322625

>>53322494
this. plenty of money to be made without gambling.

>> No.53322627

>>53322614
>When your divvies are nowhere close to covering your $50k/month alimony payments

>> No.53322636

>>53322624
You should do that and right around here
>from 1975
you'll realize you've been taken for a ruse cruise.

>> No.53322638

>>53322564
we're talking about DXY you congenital cretin.

>> No.53322644

Fuck you, Baggie, you worthless faggot

>> No.53322646
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It‘s over

>> No.53322652

>>53322644
y u mad tho

>> No.53322667

>>53322602
I genuinely hope we go to war with those sand niggers if they fuck with the petro dollar

>> No.53322680
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Ok so I hit a deer coming home just now doing 40 and it literally did no damage to my car which I don't even know how that's possible. This is bullish, buy calls tomorrow

>> No.53322687

>>53322667
As an OIL baron who would profit from 10m barrels per day being knocked offline (and who knows how many more additional barrels being embargoed), I couldn't agree more.

As someone who would have to live through that shitstorm in the west, I can think of few worse things.

>> No.53322688

>>53322680
Free deer sausages?

>> No.53322704

>>53322688
I didn't stick around long enough to think about that otherwise I would have had to call the police and report it which I'm not trying to do. It was a doe too so it wasn't very big.

>> No.53322766

>>53322680
Did you make sure it was dead? Its pretty fucked up to leave the deer alive and wounded.

>> No.53322773

>>53322680
WTF. I hit a deer in my car (corolla) back in uh 2020. The whole front was gone. Fenders and hood bent, windshield cracked. Still drove it home though. Thought for sure insurance company was gonna write it off as totaled. But shockingly nope. Took it to a body shop and the whole affair costed me a bit over 500 outta pocket. (Cost to fix the car was quoted at round 8-9000). Funny enough the airbags did not deploy.

>> No.53322776

>>53322766
is he going to finish it off by beating it to death? I doubt rocker carries.

>> No.53322788

>>53322776
Then he should have called and done a police report. What's the big fucken deal?

>> No.53322794

>>53322766
I did not, there is literally nothing I would be able to do anyway. Local PD doesn't have a dispatcher at night and I'm not calling 911 for a non emergency and then having to spend the next 2 hours waiting for a officer to show up to file a report. I believe my car not getting damaged was karma paying me back for being a good person. All I saw was the deer slide into someone's driveway. I imagine it got up and ran away. If it didn't do any damage to my car it couldn't have been that injured.

>> No.53322802

You fools. If you leave the deer alive, you're just breeding the next generation of car-resistant superdeer!

>> No.53322807

>>53322788
I have no fault insurance. Doing a police report does nothing but waste my time.

>> No.53322808

>>53322802
the deer just need to get bigger so we can ride them instead of cars

>> No.53322815

>>53322808
That's a moose and they're more dangerous than bears.

>> No.53322831

>>53322815
that sucks

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Rocker I don't know how to tell you this, but that wasn't a deer.
Make sure you lock up everything tonight.

>> No.53322837

Luckily, while Bob couldn’t time his buys, he never sold out of the market even once. He didn’t sell after the bear market of 1973-74 or the Black Monday in 1987 or the technology bust in 2000 or the financial crisis of 2007-09.

He never sold a single share.

So how did he do?

Even though he only bought at the very top of the market, Bob still ended up a millionaire with $1.1 million.

>> No.53322853

been reading stocktwits. ive noticed that the majority of their belief in the why the market moves is that the market makers are soley interested in burning options. one side says that there are too many puts and the other side says there are too many calls. either way, they think that that is all that moves the market.

>> No.53322858

>>53322853
That’s probably around 40% of the truth.

>> No.53322864

>>53322853
I mean, they're not wrong

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>>53322853

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>>53322646
APU, NO!!

>> No.53322871

>>53322853
It's a lot of it. Specifically nvidia had a price target of 170 and in btc $500m of options got burned in the latest rally. Doesn't take much desu

>> No.53322880

>>53322834
If it was a skin walker, it's been nice knowing you guys. I'll be dead by morning.

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>>53322837

>> No.53322885

finally this terrible baggie thread will come to an end and I won't have this hoe ID anymore

>> No.53322889

Baked
>>53322887
>>53322887
>>53322887

>> No.53322892

>>53322853
market makers is half the moves, hedgies getting squeezed is the other half. there are no real buyers or sellers