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Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptocurrencies. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier to entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Binance
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Kucoin
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

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PREVIOUS THREAD: >>53181100

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START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL
START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shutdown/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

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*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

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Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://monero.com/marketplace
https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/
https://acceptedhere.io/catalog/currency/xmr/

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>AlphaBay
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Chimera Market #
>Cloud Market #
>Dark Matter #
>Darkmoon #
>FilthyFellas
>Mellow Market #
>Retro Market #
Onion links: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/fs7ax


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Kilos
>Majestic Bank
>Elude
>Infinity Project
https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/8cunb


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Poker Club: play no-limit Texas Hold'em in real time with 2-8 players over the safety of Tor with the privacy of Monero! No user account required.
http://pokerggxmrvzecuo6afhucjwdljuve5eoavxdxdr6zedyejd6mvz5wad.onion

>XMR Poker
http://xmrpoker3icphjr7c6dgct3by44ph4xvxrds4jzwjkjh7h2owdf6icyd.onion


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

>> No.53231220
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>The irrational exuberance of cryptocurrency investors

Irrational exuberance is characterized as a hype-fueled mania that causes investors to massively overestimate an asset's real-world value. In this delusional state, investors tend to become so smitten with expectations of greater profits that they disregard the assets’ potentially weak fundamentals and drink the proverbial Kool-Aid.

This then leads to them recklessly and repeatedly buying into whatever asset is currently rising in the charts, thereby triggering and/or sustaining an asset bubble. This bubble is kept inflated solely by the mass delusion that the market price is justified and will only keep going up in future, effectively becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Note that bubbles can last for years, especially in an age of easy investor on-boarding. However, when history inevitably repeats and the bubble bursts that optimism invariably turns into panic as the asset crashes back down to its real-world value.

In finance, the "greater fool theory" suggests that one can sometimes make money through the purchase of overvalued assets—items with a purchase price drastically exceeding the intrinsic value—if those assets can later be resold at an even higher price.

In this context, one "fool" might pay for an overpriced asset, hoping that he can sell it to an even "greater fool" and make a profit. This only works as long as there are enough new "greater fools" willing to pay higher and higher prices for the asset. Eventually, investors can no longer deny that the price is out of touch with reality, at which point a sell-off can cause the price to drop significantly until it is closer to its fair value, which in some cases could be zero.

This effect is often further exacerbated by herd mentality, whereby people hear stories of others who bought in early and made big profits, causing those who did not buy to feel a fear of missing out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g

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>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

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Reporting in
####################################
IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

>> No.53231256
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stop buying

>> No.53231260

>>53231256
sorry anon

>> No.53231279
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poompa

>> No.53231307

I just replaced the SSD I had my monerod Blockchain on and now I'm mining 4x as much on p2pool. Check your drive health every once and awhile.

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>>53231256
Sorry bud, no can do.

Also, are there existing tools for analyzing Monero transactions, timestamps, parsing transaction data (e.g., tx-extra), similar to these?
https://github.com/jlopp/bitcoin-utils
https://github.com/nickmitchko/wikileaks/blob/master/jean_b.py

>> No.53231420

No amount of rationalization changes this simple fact: infinite supply = infinite supply.

Commence coping.

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>>53231420

>> No.53231440

>>53231437
>no argument

>> No.53231457
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>>53231440

learn 2 math

>> No.53231483

>>53231420
How long are you going to spam this retarded shit for? We've explained it 100 times.

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>>53231420
you really don't understand the miner penalty

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>> No.53231723

do you think we could find an artist to touch up some of these really good ai monero-chan drawings?

>> No.53231941

>>53231723
Most artists would get pissed, being asked to do maintenance on their AI replacement for a fraction of their full rate. Also you're not giving them PSD files, so no layers.

>> No.53232013

hyperrealistic ai generated monerochan when?

>> No.53232030

>>53231941
Surely there will be someone who will, not all artist live under a rock

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>>53231420

>> No.53232456
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>> No.53232597

Still fooken asking, is there anything like Alphabay without any initial vendor bond to pay? I want to sell off my cock li invites off

>> No.53232930

Monero glows harder than the sun.

>> No.53232971

We're maintaining our BTC ratio on the way up. Unusual for us lol.

>> No.53233006

>>53232930
>glows
>all the source code is open source
dumb ass

>> No.53233041

>>53233006
There's a back door in there somewhere

>> No.53233095
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>>53233041
>There's a back door in there somewhere
Well go find it so you can show it to us. It'll give you something to do. If not, post econ or finance memes.

>> No.53233155

>>53228650
I knew she had huge floppy tits, but damn that ass is pretty great too.

>> No.53233185
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Peng!

>> No.53233253

>>53233095
>Well go find it
I'm not a tech fag, I'm a logician if anything. Tor was created by (((them))) and remains controlled by them. I suspect the same is true for Monero, it benefits them so they allow it but they crush those who use it for nefarious purposes.

>> No.53233262

>>53233253
>they crush
They will*

>> No.53233267

>>53233155
She's a quadroon.

>> No.53233418

>>53233253
>I'm not a tech fag, I'm a logician if anything
>logician
Oh so you are just a regular brainlet.
Nothing wrong about that just shut up and listen when smart people are talking.
Maybe if you do enough reading, you will understand one day.

>> No.53233439

>>53233418
(he won't)

>> No.53233495
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Monegro-chan. Please.

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>>53226972
Dug through my archives and found this one

>> No.53233612

>>53233495
Tell you what anon, I will draw your Monegro chan, but I will ask a small favor of you in return, nothing major, just want you to read a little article I wrote.
What say you?

>> No.53233629
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>>53233495
maybe monerochan.art !fxjPc9dvjM can get a commission started so other chads can chip in for.

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This was a couple threads back now but I just wanted to say that while I'm fine with the XMR colors as they are, black and white is a powerful alternate color scheme - very based and pirate-pilled

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>>53233495
Yo Mental Outlaw, how's it going? And I'm willing to compromise at tanned, but that's it.

>> No.53233678
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Also I<3 Monero-chan (even Monegro-chan, although I wouldn't marry her ofc)

>> No.53233687

>>53233629
Topkek, we need to make memes like this with Monegro-chan

>> No.53233735
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>>53233495
>>53233597
After looking into the matter further out of curiosoty it would appear that the artist is a Monegro himself, making this a genuine Monegro-chan

>> No.53233862

>>53233658
Mental Outlaw is based as hell. I genuinely hope he finds a good black wife and has a big family.

>> No.53233982

is anybody here actually using XMR for anything besides speculation? do you receive payment or buy things with it?

>> No.53234027
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>>53233982
I do send donations and tip jar. Mental Outlaw has received an unknown amount. I also donated to the freedom convoy using xmr. Others as well. I might by something eventually.

>> No.53234222

>>53233418
How's the weather in Tel Aviv?

>> No.53234270

>>53233982
Lots of stuff to buy with it, like gift cards, vpn subscription, clothing, and decorations. You could buy drugs, buy drugs are bad for you. Don't buy them even though there are dozens of darknet drug stores that accept monero. Please.

>> No.53234345
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>>53233982
Certain gold and silver bullion dealers accept xmr.

>> No.53234406

>>53232597
Moneromarket.io but you already can find a lot of ppl selling them.

>>53231366
I dont think there is. Attempts to analize the xmr blockchain have failed so far.

>> No.53234412

>>53234345
which ones?

>> No.53234457

>>53233658
>>53233862
But mental outlaw is not black... i saw some cooking videos of him and at worst he is "white" spic tier.

>> No.53234478

>>53234345
>pic
Look what people do to emulate fraction of our power

>> No.53234492

>>53234457
he has black hair

he's like a quad or halfie but makes great content so there is no reason to be racist about it

just like clarence thomas and ye

>> No.53234505

we're going over 1k in 4 years, that's how long I have to get 100 moneros, realistically 2 years to stack at sub 500

>> No.53234568

>>53234492
I dont even care if he is 100% black, he is a cool dude.
My problem is not with black people but with niggers.

>> No.53234611

>>53233253
>logician

>> No.53234815

>>53234611
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Arithmetician_(Tactics)

>> No.53234823
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Offshore money

>> No.53234882

my small business only accepts xmr as a payment option

>> No.53234901

Stop buying please

>> No.53235558
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>>53234901
>Stop buying please

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>> No.53236985

>>53234901
this but unironically

>> No.53238635

>>53233982
I'm about to list a few modded game consoles on moneromarket.io if the site stops being slow as hell. Couple of Dreamcasts with GDEMUs and a Saturn with a MODE

>> No.53238685
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>>53233982
> do you receive payment or buy things with it?

>> No.53238736

>>53234457
>>53234492
He's black, he wears a durag and everything. Though it doesn't matter either way.

What's more important is he likes Monero, anime, and 4chan, so I'm certain he's in these threads.

>> No.53238816

>>53238736
No man has such a large collection of Monero-chans and doesn't visit this thread on at least as semi-frequent basis.

>> No.53239007

I do art commissions and only take XMR as payment, but I have to handhold clients through the buying process constantly. This happens with or without links to exchanges and tutorials in my page. I don't know what to do.

>>53231723
I could try my hand at them. Which should I do first?

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>>53239007
Forgot pic

>> No.53239190

>>53231130
>the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022
Is this currently the case? The OP text should be updated to reflect the current situation.

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>>53239190
jup, been at 0.6 XMR for months now

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Monero = inflation bugs
Tail emission = infinite supply
Asic resistance = protection resistance
Vulnerable = yes
Pedo coin = yes
Illiquid when banned everywhere = yes
Honeypot = yes
Monero users status = schizos
Meds needed = yes

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>>53239007
>I do art commissions and only take XMR as payment, but I have to handhold clients through the buying process constantly. This happens with or without links to exchanges and tutorials in my page. I don't know what to do.

1. Client buys LTC/BCH on Coinbase.
2. Direct them to Trocador.app: https://trocador.app/en/
3. They send LTC/BCH, you receive XMR.

>> No.53239700

>>53239216
I see. Whoever makes the next general should update that sentence to clarify that then.

>> No.53239815

>>53234882
based

>> No.53239837

>>53239700
"Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay"

I wrote that. I thought it was pretty clear

>> No.53239877

>>53239700
Info is already there . You just need better reading comp

>> No.53239956

>>53233495
By any reasonable standard, there's nothing objectionable about fapping to White Chinese drawn characters.

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>>53238635
i listed a publication to sell GOG games in moneromarket about 2 weeks ago. basically ppl pay me the game in monero and then i gift the game to their accounts. but i think those fuckers rejected it, it says "pending" but its been 2 fucking weeks!

>> No.53240121

>>53238635
how do you ship anonymously? id be interested in selling stuff too (legal things) but would prefer to not put my address and name on the packages so glowies and criminals dont flag me as a monero holder

>> No.53240189

>>53238685
im mostly looking for tips or advice from people who sell, mostly i want to figure out how to stay anonymous (the whole point of monero). i want to sell legal things but dont want randos on the internet knowing my name and address i dont see how thats unreasonable

>> No.53240250

>>53240121
I used to mail things to a friend in Saudi Arabia (he's military) with my home address in one state while I was in a completely different one. Just put a different return address (P.O. Box I guess) and send it normally, they don't check

>> No.53240363

>>53240250
>>53240250
how? were you just mailing letters and not packages? packages are required to have electronic postage if over 13 ounces, cant just use stamps for postage anymroe thanks to uncle ted

>> No.53240403
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53240403

>>53239037
Nice work, reminds me of classic anime from the 80s/90s. You can find a bunch of AI Monero-chans in various shapes in this mega link near the bottom (look for stable diffusion) https://mega.nz/folder/JSYUlZrY#CxTF5PTJKcWIPt7qzduHzQ/folder/Fahm3K4L

>> No.53240590

>>53240363
>walk into post office with box
>addresses already on package, package already taped up
>fill out customs form (only if mailing overseas)
>paid with card and signed receipt
You might still have to provide a signature if you pay with cash, I'm not sure. But that was it. Packages averaged around 1lb 10oz

>> No.53240632

>>53240590
thanks, didnt realize you could buy the postage anon in person

>> No.53240696

>>53239543
PayPal and Venmo sell LTC, BCH, ETH and BTC
Cashapp sells just BTC
Normals don't want to do KYC on Coinbase and are already familiar with these apps.

>> No.53240740

>>53240632
I don't know exactly how anon it is, but I highly doubt you'll get railed for sending a legal package. I never had any issues, they might ask for a name or something if you don't have one on the return address but they won't check your license or anything so you could probably use a fake name or something if they needed one. As always, your mileage may vary but I have no reason to believe it'd be difficult to accomplish

>> No.53240899

>>53240473
based
they are going to sell all their monero

>> No.53241222
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53241222

>>53240696
>PayPal and Venmo sell LTC, BCH, ETH and BTC

Last I heard you can't actually move your coins. Has that changed?

>> No.53241261

>>53240899
What Monero? They only had XMR futures (non-existent paper Monero).

>> No.53241476

>>53240121
some dark net exchange owner sent people packages using addresses off the local sex offenders list.

>> No.53242683

>>53240899
>>53241261
it's public knowledge they were selling paper BTC but they totally have all their monero backed goys!!!
>people believe this.

>> No.53242732

>>53242683
As far as I can tell they didn't even have a spot offering, so it's a complete nothingburger. Same as their lumber futures.

>> No.53242928

>>53241476
but how did that solve his postage problem of buying the postage with a credit card or in person on security cam in a federal building?

>> No.53243090

>>53239877
This. I'm a fucking retard. Brb, gunna kms.

>> No.53243619

>>53231130
>XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/wq6w03E2DS4
>Sweetwater Digital Asset Consulting
literal who's with 0 credit, why is it in the OP?

>> No.53243906

>>53243619
He made an incredibly educated and in-depth video explaining monero and took it as a bit of an opportunity to shill his business. Community-driven means just that.

Would you prefer the exact same shit but uploaded by a page with "monero" in the name?? is that okay??
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=aC9Uu5BUxII

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>>53243619

>> No.53244327
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53244327

Is it safe to use the monero package from the arch linux repository? Or should I always download from getmonero.org and verify it myself?

>> No.53244482

>>53244327
Everything in the official arch repo is very trustworthy. No need to download manually unless the arch version stops keeping up with updates

>> No.53244519

>>53244327
I always download from get Monero and check the binaries
I use arch btw.

>> No.53244672
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53244672

>>53239543
>>53239007
>2. Direct them to Trocador.app
Trocador's AnonPay makes that even easier. accept up to 60 coins, get them swapped into xmr (or any of the other 60)
https://trocador.app/en/anonpay/

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53244969

>>53243906
call me schizo, but he comes off as a very weird guy
the sweetwater website is also just a template with copywriting which only directs to the contact form
the video itself is also really shit because it tries to explain the principles and technicals for Monero/crypto, but fails at doing either properly
I'll stop shitting up the thread now

>> No.53245091

>>53240899
>>53241261
>>53242683
>>53242732
Their balance sheet had zero XMR holdings or am I missing something?

>> No.53245202

>>53233678
cool pic. nazis would definitely love tech that undermines state control

>> No.53245210
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53245210

>>53239007
>Which should I do first?
Basically any of them that you like. Fixing the eyes and the hands

>> No.53245485

Do any of you guys sell for fiat on localmonero? Any experience going from xmr > fiat without glowniggers banning your bank accounts? Is there a bank that generally doesn't care about zelle payments showing up in your accounts?
>inb4 just use cash by mail

>> No.53245516

>>53239543
>>53244672
This. Generate an invoice via Trocador AnonPay. The user pays in LTC and you receive in XMR

>> No.53245529

>>53244969
>the video itself is also really shit because it tries to explain the principles and technicals for Monero/crypto, but fails at doing either properly
You're a brainlet. Go gamble on shitcoins

>> No.53245947

>>53245485
how did you make enough monero for that to be a problem? i would like to copy

>> No.53245964

>>53245485
Literally just do cash in mail and stop worrying.

>> No.53246297

>>53245529
i recommend taking it out of the OP

>>53245964
how/where?

>> No.53246655

>>53245947
I didn't. I'm just some anon with fiat to spare and a profit motive, plus I figure increasing the liquidity of non-kyc monero isn't exactly a bad thing.

>> No.53246998

Doompa

>> No.53247072

To go to moon is a good thing. Wanting to be rich from crypto is completely normal.
Don't blame yourself for having ambition. Ambition fuels life.
With that being said, everytime you receive some monero, spend it, or convert to glorious bitcoin.


Only communists hold monero.
Don't be one.

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>>53247072

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53247298

>>53243914

>> No.53247431

>>53247298
To the back of the line Kim. MoneroChan is mine!!! Fite me!

>> No.53247759

>>53242928
>wear hat
>wear face mask
>go to another city with a lot of people
Problem mostly solved

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53247939

>>53239007
Start with this one and OP image since they only need work on the eyes and they've already been upscaled.

If you do well and charge a reasonable rate I'll pay you to do a batch of them. I have lots that are almost great but ruined by hands/eyes.
z

>> No.53248092

>>53233735

heckin' based and valid

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53248133

>>53247939
Shit posted an old rev, here's a better version

>> No.53248155

>>53245091
I can't find any information on a FTX Monero spot market or Monero withdrawals. Just as they were selling cash-settled lumber futures, they were also only offering Monero futures, bets on its future price, not Monero itself. Another way to farm their users.

>> No.53249494

>>53247072
>glorious bitcoin
6/10 bait made me reply

>> No.53250697

here's what I need, I need monero to drop to 70 dollars in exactly 6 months time and I'll never have to work again

>> No.53250777
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53250777

Anything that isn't PoW is a scam.
Anything that isn't ASIC resistant is a scam.

>> No.53250786

>>53231420
It must really suck being stuck on a ghost chain only utilized by bots and midwits withdrawing to their CIA backdoored hot wallet.

>> No.53250819

>>53232930
>Monero glows harder than the sun.
>>53233041
>There's a back door in there somewhere
>>53233253
>I'm not a tech fag, I'm a logician if anything. Tor was created by (((them))) and remains controlled by them. I suspect the same is true for Monero, it benefits them so they allow it but they crush those who use it for nefarious purposes.

This is literally the thought process from the average midwit. Makes my conviction even stronger knowing retards like this exist.

>> No.53251676

Have any of you been able to fool the kyc regulations so far?
Is there a software for this?

>> No.53251751

>>53251676
sell good or service, receive monero

>> No.53251833

Damn the ratio got absolutely shredded

>> No.53251872

>>53251751
i mean like using a software that tricks the KYC to believe that its a real person instead of an AI generated one.

>> No.53251922
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I thought owning Monero would make me feel like a cyberpunk, but it doesnt...

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53251940

>>53251922
thats because you are just hodling, try using it to buy guns and drugs to get the full cyberpunk experience.

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53251986

>>53251922
>I thought owning Monero would make me feel like a cyberpunk, but it doesnt...
owning Monero on a KYC exchange like any normie won't make you feel /cyber/

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53252338

>>53251922
if you want to feel like a criminal going against the powers that be but aren't interested in drugs or sketchy 50 cent netflix accounts, you can always get some stickers from monerosupplies.com ;)

Will soon also have some cool Monerochan stuff

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>> No.53254463

>>53251833
Zoom out

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>> No.53255592

>>53254296
comfy

>> No.53255630

>>53255457
>Tattoo
Into the trash it goes

>> No.53255717

>>53255630
how difficult is it to remove tatoos nowadays?

>> No.53256210

>>53255630
>no taste

>> No.53256410

>>53255630
yep.

>> No.53256523

>>53256210
>He thinks ruining skin with dumb permanent art is taste

>> No.53256904

>>53231130
I buy monero purely because of the anime girl

>> No.53257264

>>53256904
Chad

>> No.53257856

will mining monero harm my CPU/GPU? i was planning on using my main rig, since its far more powerful than my server pc

>main: 5 5600 1660S
>server: i5 7400k no dedicated gpu

thoughts?

>> No.53258423
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53258423

/xmr/ kicking off a bit later in an hour and a bit. Pic related for link because /biz/ jannies being their usual selves.

>> No.53258433
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53258433

>>53258423

My nigga, I was wondering when you'd surface.

>> No.53258487

>>53258433
I was gonna post earlier but we were having some technical issues with setting up earlier so pushed things back a bit.

>> No.53258500

>>53254463
Fuck you're right it use to be 0.034

How fucking far has this piece of shit fallen?

>> No.53258840

>>53251872
Anon, just use a site that doesn't have KYC. You're going to get v& if you think you're going to casually use a fake identity on a service that reports to the government.

>> No.53258950

>>53258500
https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/monero-transactions.html#alltime
Monero was a speculative bubble in 2017.
The majority of people who have ever used Monero haven't bled against Bitcoin. If you've been dcaing into Monero since 2019 you'd be ahead of Bitcoin. The only people who got burned were speculative degenerates at the peak of that 2017 run.
Try again.

>> No.53259339

glowies in the catalogue are seething at us

>> No.53259357

>>53257856
bump

>> No.53259487

One issue with xmr, or crypto in general, is that non-kyc (and even luv) freelance sites that utilize strictly crypto as a payment have no adoption because the community is inherently not based on trust. I’ve tried a few niche ones that offer strictly crypto and every one of these sites are dead. The use case just isn’t there

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53259499

>>53258500

>> No.53259503

>>53259487
Even kyc I mean not luv

>> No.53259622

>>53258423
>/xmr/ kicking off a bit later i
where this at?

>> No.53259667

>>53259622
Link in bottom corner, we're after the match on at the moment.

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53259707

>>53259622

YT: RXkQpzHN-PQ

>> No.53259730

>>53259499
Wonder if they'll ever update this kek

>> No.53259737
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53259737

>>53259499
Oh look, its that maxitard who's forever stuck living in the past!

>> No.53259829

>>53259737
>no bullmarket since 2018

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53259861

>>53259829

lol I prefer to buy the coin that's slowly but surely replacing BTC while its still cheap.

>> No.53259887

>>53259861
>/biz/ means "business and finance"
>finance is the ability to make money

Are you sure your threads are in the right board?

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53259942

>>53259887

Buying low, selling high is business, dipshit.

>> No.53260021

>>53259887
Buying high, selling low is /biz/

>> No.53260083

>>53259942
I only buy XMR when I want to send money to Ukraine, to help the freedom fighters there against Russia.
But to sell high and make profit, XMR is of no use. It is always crabbing.

>> No.53260219

post monerochan

>> No.53260239

>>53260219
and also port some good opsec practices

>> No.53260262

>>53260239
*post

>> No.53260315

>>53260239
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Security

Unironically a great place to start learning opSec

>> No.53260890

>>53258423
>starting this tournament off with a 4-2 win

wagmi /xmr/ chads

>> No.53261025

whats the best way to swap usdc for xmr anonymously? I don't want my usdc to go to some sketchy guy who will do something bad and then get it somehow linked to me. But I also don't want anyone to know I bought xmr...

>> No.53261227
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53261227

>>53261025

Trocador is launching an I2P site next month. So you'll be able to anonymously swap for XMR that way. Or just use a VPN and do it now.

The USDC will go to an exchange so no worries there.

>> No.53262043

>>53261227
where could I go now?

>> No.53262074

alright how do i make zillions off this coin catch me up to speed

>> No.53262182

>>53262074
You don't, this isn't a coin for moonboys.

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53262394

>>53262074

Buy WoW.

>> No.53262528
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53262528

>>53262074
>how do i make zillions off this coin
jst hodl. the central banks will take care of the rest.

>> No.53262757

>>53262043
trocador.app. they have an onion link at the bottom of their page if you need. trocador is a swap aggregator. they api to swappers to get you the best swap, then if you commit, they will spin up the swap on your behalf. they get paid by the swappers on completed swaps. the dudes that run it are fellow monerochads.

>> No.53262987

>>53245202
>nazis would definitely love tech that undermines state control
dunno man, nazis are all about state control. Hitler said he based much of his work on the ideas of marx.

>> No.53263484

>>53262987

Marx wrote nothing about state control.

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53263983

What should be the punishment for insulting Monerochan?

>> No.53264137

>>53263484
his whole ideology is based in some kind of central control. call it whatever you want, its just another form of government.
you think people is just going to give up private property just because of "the revolution"?
its all about coercive power.

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53264946

>Buy my yearly vpn subscription
>Monero pumps %10 30 minutes later
I feel robbed $10

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53265084

>>53264946
kek, easy there. remember that 1 xmr = 1 xmr.

also does anybody else thinks that wownero got the best color combination? i feel like monero could really use some color updates.

>> No.53265138

>>53262987
Go be a retard on /pol/

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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.53265238

>>53265138
just stating the obvious man, anyone that thinks that nazis don't rely on heavy state power are retards.
they would be the first to ban cryptos like xmr after the communists.

>> No.53265291

>>53265084
I know the golden exchange rate but they set price in USD so I'd have ~0.09 xmr more if I made the transaction now instead

>> No.53265383

>>53265238
>>/pol/

>> No.53265561

>>53263983
Forced ztrash bagholding

>> No.53265578

>>53265179
stop

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>>53265179

>> No.53265725
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53265725

seriously wtf is going on with the price? $180 rn for xmr and btc is close to 21k, i feel like this is so artificial it will collapse at any moment.

>> No.53265864

>>53265725
This
Last time it pumped this hard was from 200 to 280 over the summer, then it crashed to 100. Here's hoping for a similar outcome I suppose

>> No.53266073

>>53265561
Devilish

>> No.53266389
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53266389

>>53265238
hitler saw value in using currency not controlled by the central banks, and the global conspiracy

which is why he became his own banker and based his currency on silver, the reichmark, without any doubt in my mind hitler would be an xmr maximalist

indeed that's why half of us are in xmr because we believe the banks are stupid and tyranical

>> No.53266470

>>53266389
That book advocates fiat maximalism and shots on the gold standard/commodity money.

>> No.53266508

>>53266470
not exactly, it advocated copper, and the abolishment of usury and debt based systems

a gold or silver standard worked decently well in the united states but was a disaster in rome because all of the gold and silver mines required mercenary armies to capture

>> No.53266595

>>53266508
>not exactly, it advocated copper
He advocates for greenbacks as his preferred currency system. His argument against normal fiat is (in part) that it isn't state controlled enough and that we need a purer fiat with the treasury issuing debt-free greenbacks.

>> No.53266631

>>53266595
dollars were backed by physical assets shitbird

also the tally stick, was a fair system not based on debt

physical assets are superior to letting the central bank inflate forever

his main argument is don't let a genetically inbred group of subhumans print infinite money for your country

>> No.53266755

>>53266631
I was trying to point out his stronger argument by giving his greenbacker case for fiat maximalism, but yes as you point out he also believes that the only fundamental reason fiat sucks is because Jews.

>> No.53266758

>>53233095
Blacker Pill: Hitler needed a 100% white population to claw his way to power.

>> No.53266783

>>53266755
because the jews don't do steady 1 percent inflation per year like a rational fiat system, they do 100 percent inflation in 1 year and then 10 percent for 20 years and then 200 percent in 2 months

which is why inflation and "infinite supply" isn't the issue with monero, inflation is only bad when it is excessive and uncontrolled

>> No.53266836

>>53265291
That sucks, anon. The owners have to take some sort of profit though, otherwise they wouldn't be able to run their service like they do. Don't view it as a loss, view it as a friend making a profit on crypto that you sold them

>> No.53266838

>>53266783
>rational fiat system
I say true things about what the book teaches and you flip your lid.

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53266865

Why the sudden rally?

>> No.53266904

>>53266838
you said fiat maximalist but to people who didn't read the book that sounds retarded

and indeed he is against the commonly known fiat system and advocates for a completely different one, and he didn't have any real problem with the gold and silver standard in usa, or Gadhafi's attempt, because those were clearly different than how rome did it, where the catholic church held like half the gold in the world in the Vatican

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53266907

I fucking love Monero, anons. Somebody please help me with these feelings of lust towards an incorporeal entity

>> No.53266980

>>53266865
Looks like we're following Bitcoin and that's pumping because maybe inflation is looking better. idk

>> No.53267133

>>53266904
>you said fiat maximalist but to people who didn't read the book that sounds retarded
He is a fiat maximalist. You're annoyed at me because I'm not dressing up what he's advocating for in more friendly language.

His hierarchy of monetary systems is:
Greenbacker/"pure" fiat > non-Jewish gold standard > non-Jewish central bank usury money > Jew-ran gold money > Jew-ran central bank usury money

The highest tier in his hierarchy of monetary systems is very explicitly a "Greenbacker" debt-free, treasury-issued fiat currency.

>> No.53267307

>>53266907
>53266907
>69
i feel you dude. pussy is awesome.

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53267312

>>53267133
I have a confession to make. I haven't fully read Mein Kampf

>> No.53267397

Monerochan-art bro. Do you have a reference gif/video of the mining animation? I want to get an idea of what it will look like before I throw some xmr at it.

>> No.53267536

>>53267133
he was too boomer to write about monero

that would have been number 1

>> No.53267700

we snatchin every mothafucker birthday

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53267774

>>53267312
It's ok, Hitler will forgive you as long as you still believe in him.

>> No.53267864
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>> No.53267878

>>53267774
I really like this version of Monero-chan. Came out well.

>> No.53267924

>doing clean install of Artix
>"Hey you know I've been running this OS for a long time and haven't donated shit to them I should see how I can do that"

https://artixlinux.org/donate.php

uhh based??????

>> No.53268003

>>53267924
Incredibly based

>> No.53268024

>>53267924
>https://artixlinux.org/donate.php
>only taking Monero for crypto payments
giga based

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>>53266907
Ngl seeing Monero-chan was a big part of what made me buy crypto for the first time. I had been watching bitcoin on and off for several years beforehand but it didn't move past idle curiosity until I started lurking /xmr/, getting convinced by the arguments and saving every Monero-chan I could find (there were a lot fewer in those days). Having a cute anthropomorphized avatar serves as a concretization of XMR's underlying ideas and principles - it's great to fight for private, permissionless, sound electronic cash, but it feels a lot easier to fight for Monero-chan.

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>>53244327

Based to use Arch Linux

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Everything is pumping but us. Why?

>> No.53268308

>>53268277
we had a prepump last week

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>>53268277
don't care.

>> No.53268338

>>53268277
The fuck are you on about, it's up 10% today, and a ton against Bitcoin over the last year.

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>Nov 22' FDIC Banksters Discuss ‘Bail-Ins’ To Deal With Impending Market Collapse
https://invidious.epicsite.xyz/watch?v=jAQg7wkK4as

>> No.53268353

I might be retarded but can someone explain to me why everyone celebrated Ethereum moving to proof-of-stake? I know it draws less power, but in proof of stake, it says you need to give some coins. How am I gonna give coins that I don't even have in the first place? Plus it seems like this system would favor large crypto farms run by megacorps instead of individual miners.
If proof-of-stake is indeed better, whats the tradeoff compared to proof-of-work? What does this mean for Monero and the larger crypto market?

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>>53268328
What's the cyan/white/black monero clone in the picture? Give me the quick rundown on monero shitcoin clones.

>> No.53268459

>>53268391
I think that is xmc. I dunno, lol.

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>>53268391
>remember to swap your xmr for 0xmr sirs!

>> No.53268497

>>53268475
> nope. 0xmonero is still vaporware bullshit
just like the last hundred times you spammed it
stop trying to steal from people by lying to them about the capabilities of the project
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoMoonShots/comments/i27fhk/0xmonero_summary_of_findings/
>>/biz/thread/S24750658#p24755504
another recent beatdown >>/biz/thread/S28670476

>> No.53268624

>>53268353
First off, if you weren't aware, most of us are against Proof of Stake. So you will get biased answers to this question. Personally, I don't think Proof of Stake is all that terrible, but overall I find Proof of Work to be the much better option, and the ASIC algorithm that Monero uses is the gold standard because you can feasibly mine Monero with commodity hardware, whereas with Bitcoin you need to buy expensive specialized hardware.

Proof of Work requires computing processing power to calculate complicated math problems, with the winning miner being rewarded with the block reward. Miners can pool their resources together (into things aptly called mining pools) to combine their computing power to increase the odds they find a block. Miners operate in a free market where each individual miner pays for hardware and electricity costs to get passive mining rewards, with the hopes that long term this will act as income to sell for more mining capital or for other goods. In short, this is a tried-and-true capitalist system that protects the network based on the amount of hashing power dedicated to getting rewards, meaning an attacker would have to buy cpu processing power to outweigh at least 50% of the mining hash rate.
As mentioned earlier, what's great about Monero is you can conceivably do this with any computer, so if you already have a nice computer you built, you can leave your computer running and (with the exception of electricity costs) contribute your hashrate to a pool and get passive income.
The only problem is this does require energy, and using energy can be seen as a negative from climate activists.

>> No.53268631

>>53247072
>or convert to glorious bitcoin.
AHAHHAHAHAHAHA you mean the worthless "currency" that can't function as a currency? Yeah no thanks go fuck off and kill yourself.

>> No.53268635

>>53268624
continued:


Proof of Stake does not require you to use computer processing power. Instead, after purchasing a certain amount of that crypto currency (or just having it at all) you can receive income on it. The tradeoff is that, if somebody owns a lot of that cryptocurrency, they will proportionally get a greater amount of rewards than other people.
You are correct that you can't stake if you don't own that coin.
> Plus it seems like this system would favor large crypto farms run by megacorps instead of individual miners.
Proof of stake doesn't require large crypto farms. All you really need is to own that cryptocurrency to stake it. Running a node to stake requires much less energy.
Large crypto farms are the result of Proof of Work being competitive, so entrepreneurs have created these companies, putting forth a lot of capital to mine at a loss for several years, with the hopes that the cryptocurrency will greatly go up in value.
Likewise, entrepreneurs who are interested in a proof of stake crypto can buy a large amount of that coin to stake.
The difference, though, is that proof of stake does not require much skin in the game (like mining hardware, electricity costs, maintenance) and therefore creates a lower barrier of entry, which in turn can lead to stake holders having an influence on the overall blockchain. Again, this can be prevented if there is a smart Proof of Stake set up in place, but in my view everything trends to centralization, and generally staking attracts people who chase high yields, which therefore creates a userbase only interested in making profit or cucking to regulations.

>> No.53268688

>>53268624
>>53268635
wow thanks for that detailed reply. I've heard that proof of stake also has much less privacy and anonymity that proof of work. Would there be a chance that Monero can move to a smart proof of stake model?
Also, I messed up my words back there. I meant would proof of stake favor big corporations with millions of dollar who might buy up 51% of all the coins in a cryptocurrency and dictate everything?
Also, wouldn't having to buy the coin with normal currency first expose the buyer and eliminate anonymity compared to mining it?

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>>53268688
another perspective

>> No.53268877

>>53268353
>How am I gonna give coins that I don't even have in the first place?
Exactly. This system is just another way of censoring who can or can not enter the cool boys club.
And don't you dare question how the current cool boys got their coins(invite).
With PoW, precious metals etc. it's very simple.
You put in the work, you might get lucky and get a block/nugget and that's it.
The system does not discriminate.
No matter how much other (((good guys))) hate you they cannot prevent you from getting a piece.

>> No.53268925

>>53268736
>>53268877
It seems that POW is the superior choice. Although, is there any chance to optimize Monero's algorithm to consume less power during mining. I used to mine but had to stop as energy prices have skyrocketed in my country. It seems like power consumption will remain one of the biggest barriers to entry in POW currencies.

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It's nice that our Monero are increasing in value, but if it comes at the price of having to witness another cringerun, then it's just not worth it

>> No.53268939

>>53268877
pos is worse but pow isn't a pure meritocracy, hopefully you have the resources to relocate to a place with near free energy, or have a very high income to invest if you can't do those things

>> No.53268964

>>53268925
The entire point of POW is that it costs energy to acquire currency. If power consumption per hash decreased, miners would simply increase their hashrate

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POOMPA
*BANG BANG*
POOMPA
*BANG BANG*
POOMPA
*BANG BANG*

>> No.53269015

>>53268688
>I've heard that proof of stake also has much less privacy and anonymity that proof of work.
> wouldn't having to buy the coin with normal currency first expose the buyer and eliminate anonymity compared to mining it?
Most people that are staking are using KYC, so yes they would have less privacy. Proof of work and proof of stake don't really have anything to do with privacy though. If you were to get a Proof of Stake coin without KYC then you can stake i privately.
>Would there be a chance that Monero can move to a smart proof of stake model?
Probably not. Like I said, proof of stake is not popular around here.
>buy up 51% of all the coins in a cryptocurrency and dictate everything?
I think it depends on the proof of stake model.

>> No.53269020

>>53268964
isn't increasing hashrate a good thing?

>> No.53269056

>>53269020
Only if it makes it more expensive to attack the network

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>>53268925
Some will offset their heating during the colder months by mining.

>> No.53269784

>>53255630
Just pretend she is eth: pump and dump.

>> No.53269957

>>53241222
You can on Paypal and Venmo, not 100% sure on Cashapp but it should, would be kinda pointless otherwise.

>> No.53270007

>>53265578
this
stop buying

>> No.53270937

>>53232930
But I prefer RAILGUN's privacy development that's setting the benchmark for other PriFi.

>> No.53270984

>>53268938
I feel Zcash Dash and RAIL is bigger with huge potentials

>> No.53270986

>>53260083
>I only buy XMR when I want to send money
It's what you see in a project that determines what you do with it
monero is what I use mostly for the same purpose, i use the sylo messaging app when I want to be sure no one is seeing my chats!
>XMR is of no use. It is always crabbing.
i think this applies to the whole market in general.

>> No.53271018

>>53270984
I feel like you are no longer in possession of your male reproductive organ.
>inb4 implying that they aren't a scam

>> No.53271027

>>53267878
Now that crypto is fucking up, with Monero , Horizen and RAIL I feel I have a better cover up. My funds are safe.

>> No.53271053

>>53270984
>RAIL
Trust this protocol, it enables private transactions & arbitrary smart contract calls.

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>>53270937
>>53270984
>>53271027
>>53271053

>> No.53271081

>>53270984
>Cash
>Dash
>RAIL
Wtf does these three shits offer that Monero offer.

>> No.53271111

>>53270937
Is it because of the relayers which other privacy projects doesn't have, that makes you prefer railgun?
Well, I think other protocol will get to that level soon

>> No.53271124

>>53269020
To some extent, it's a good thing

>> No.53271136

>>53240696
Not everyone will love to do the kyc aspect, that's why we need decentralization

>> No.53271157

>>53271053
Is this not one of those new shits? Damn

>> No.53271212

>>53271081
C'mon, why not dyor and know what the difference is by yourself, that will convince you the more?
I think they all have relayers and zk-snarks

>> No.53271691

>>53271157
It's thrilling to know users can be untraceable when they trade, use leverage platforms, or add liquidity, with absolutely any dApp on ETH.

>> No.53271750

>>53271691
Definitely that's why Railgun is worth trusting.
>>53271212
Hey anon, it is fully on eth layer-1, so it does not trade off security by using layer 2 node system or cross-chain bridges.

>> No.53272505

>>53271750
>>53271691
>>53271212
>>53271157
>>53271111
Type 'Ganesha is a faggot god'

>> No.53272724

>1 post by this id
>1 post by this id
>1 post by this id
>1 post by this id
>1 post by this id
Goddamn are they paying you even less now? I bet I can offer you a better salary fudding these projects. Give me a price.

>> No.53273492

>ask Rajeev to insult one of his primary idols
>Rajeev stops posting
Very interesting sir

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>steady linear growth up to 170-200 with a spike, plateau, and dump back to 110-120
It's been following this pattern for the past year or so, I'm thinking of selling now and buying back cheapies later on.

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Meant to post this, that was the 3 month.

>>53270984
good morning ranjeep

>> No.53273678

>>53273595
>I'm thinking of selling now and buying back cheapies later on.
Tempting but very dangerous.

>> No.53273729

>>53271750
Yea, it's on L1, still, it can operate on L2 as well, just dyor

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Thanks to the anons that tuned in for our convincing 4-2 win over // yesterday. Divegrassbros /xmr/ are back again today in about two hours from now as the fourth match of the day against the /numbersstation/ radio schizos today. Link for stream but also chat is in bottom left corner, we have a separate chat from the YT stream to avoid their jannies banning us cause we pretty much got banned from every other streaming service with a chat.

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>>53273865

Unfathomably based.

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>>53273865

>> No.53275072

>>53273865
God bless you anon.
I member rooting for my favorite general in divegrass and ripping models for the boys to put into roster.
Good times.

>> No.53275331

Every time I check its still an infinite supply shitcoin.

Enjoy your inflation bugs kek

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>>53275331
>Every time I check its still an infinite supply shitcoin.

We get it, retards are unable to grasp asymptotic math.

>Enjoy your inflation bugs kek

lol BTC has had twice as many inflation bugs and the only way to fix an exploited one is to roll back the chain and invalidate thousands of legitimate TXs.

>> No.53275524

>>53275331
Are you talking about ETH

>> No.53275576

T-the sats..
WHY WONT ANYONE THINK OF THE SATS?

>> No.53275586

stop sending your FUDDERS in our DIST threads you monero fat fucks

>> No.53275770

>>53268925
>It seems that POW is the superior choice. Although, is there any chance to optimize Monero's algorithm to consume less power during mining
Compared to ASIC mining, CPU mining is much less power intensive.

>> No.53275849

>>53268925
If less power is required to mine, that makes mining less expensive, increasing net profits. In response, more people can mine, raising the difficulty, increasing the power/XMR required, and lowering the net profits. It's a self balancing system, externally manipulating it won't do what you want it to do.

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>>53275586
>stop sending your FUDDERS in our DIST threads you monero fat fucks

FUN FACT: Discreet rhymes with Pajeet.

>> No.53275913

>we slurped it to a draw
The schizophrenia was just too strong /xmr/bros...

>> No.53276032

>>53271081
Just an advanced privacy tech and they use ZKPs. Monero is still very good though.

>> No.53276098

>>53276032
zion kike pilpuls

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>>53276032
>Just an advanced privacy tech and they use ZKPs

zk-SNARKs currently aren't as mature and dependable as Monero's tech. Once they are they'll be integrated.

>> No.53276961

>>53275857
Did they not pull the plug on this failed scam yet? Has the presale been extended 2 more weeks?

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>>53275586
Sir my pronoun is Fatcat

>> No.53277858

>>53275417

Semantics still don"t change the fact that infinite supply = infinite supply.

>> No.53277868

>>53277858
there is an infinite supply of gold in the universe, so why would you want free gold

>> No.53277886

NEW THREAD: >>53277880
>NEW THREAD: >>53277880
NEW THREAD: >>53277880
>NEW THREAD: >>53277880
NEW THREAD: >>53277880
>NEW THREAD: >>53277880

>> No.53277916

>>53277858
You seem to produce an infinite supply of faggotry. But I assume you still charge $10 for a half hour.

>> No.53279238

>>53231573
Is this done with ai or by hand?

>> No.53279374

>>53231130
yeah but does it have smart contracts?

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