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Where did this "never put your seed phrase online in anyway" come from? I've put mine in an encrypted folder sent to myself on multiple emails, and literal redditors were treating it like I posted it publicly on social media for all to see.

Is this sort of sentiment just coming from low IQ people who just want to roleplay like they are secret spies in some James Bond spy film? Do they really think they can keep something for god knows how long without people seeing it or losing it?

>> No.53230898

>>53230585
Icarved it in code into a wooden cross and it has to be viewed with a microscope. I memorized it though

>> No.53230943

>>53230585
If it's well known encryption you used its probably fine, but why have to trust even more software to keep your stack safe. Luke Jr had his PGP keys compromised and his money all got stolen
>>53230898
Based I like this idea

>> No.53231075

I have mine backuped online with sha256 encryption, my paper copies are manually encrypted using passages from an obscure book which i use to decode my seed.

>> No.53231153

>>53231075
>sha256
Anon...

>> No.53231178

are people really so mentally strained that they can't commit a 12 word sequence to memory

>> No.53231223

>>53231178
>have had injury
>can't access your wallet
retarded

>> No.53231271

>>53231075

>sha256 encryption

What do you think the 'H' stands for in SHA?

>> No.53231304

>>53231271
Hash?

>> No.53231325

veracrypt and some decent 2.5" hdds you can stash around is plenty till QPUs become a consumer product
replace them every 5-10 years

>> No.53231388

>>53231223
this or wrench attack, maybe you don't need to know your seed phrase

>> No.53231418

>>53230585
You're supposed to store it in a safe, not leave it lying around where anybody can find it.

>> No.53231485
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53231485

>>53231075
>Hello bitcoin tech support how do I decrypt my sha256 file?

>> No.53231493

I have my seeds in a txt file on Google Drive. It's in an encrypted RAR file. Should be fine imo.

>> No.53231594

>>53230585
You are a dumb nigger. Some google employee is secretly scanning emails right now for private keys. One day you are going to wake up with an empty wallet and not know wtf happened.

>> No.53232887

>>53230585
It's one thing to put a seed phrase for your wallet worth $25k in the cloud.
Anons with 1000, or 10,000 times that amount in a wallet will usually want to exercise more caution.

Take those precautions now, and you won't have to move everything to a different "safer" wallet in the future, should one of your tokens blow up in value.

>> No.53232932

>>53231304
mogged

>> No.53233011

>>53230585
Protection against potential keyloggers.

OP's pic is why I always advise against storing seed words in plain text, even on a sheet of metal locked in a safe. You should add an additional cipher layer to them. Like composing a text with the words starting or ending a new line, and then hiding it in your poetry folder or whatever.

You should also use an extra passphrase in addition to the seed and store them separately in case one is compromised.

>> No.53233358

>>53231485
what the fuck is up with those teeth

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53233401

>>53233011
>your poetry folder

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53233554

>>53233011
>hiding it in your poetry folder
>guys figured out his seed phrase it rhymes

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53233626

Your seed phrase isn't even supposed to touch the internet or a computer, retard. Any keylogger or malware on your computer can easily yoink your seed phrase even if you aren't connected to the internet.

It is supposed to be generated on an offline Ledger hardware wallet and then written down.

>> No.53233689

>>53230585
>Not storing your seed phrase in your asshole
NGMI

>> No.53233708

Text file on my desktop and on paper on top of my desk. Because I'm not a paranoid faggot. Another copy is stashed in a safe in a different house.

>> No.53233785

>>53233708
You are going to get fucked lmao
Good luck pal

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53233810

>>53230585
>>53230898
>>53230943
>>53231075
>>53231153
>>53231178
>>53231223
>>53231271
>>53231304
>>53231325
>>53231388
>>53231418
>>53231493
>>53231594
>>53232887
>>53232932
>>53233011
>>53233358
>>53233401
>>53233554
>>53233626
>>53233689
>>53233708
>>53233785

my seed phrase is stored on my desktop in a .txt filed called "seed phrase"

>> No.53233811

>>53231178
>get your mandated boosters from dr shekelberg
>have a stroke
>can't remember seed phrase anymore
fugg

>> No.53233820

>>53231493
Same here, with a good password should be enough.

>> No.53233846

My seed phrase is stored in a hermetically sealed waterproof vault at the bottom of a lake guarded by some real bastard ducks.

>> No.53233850

>>53233358
A life of crack smoking, gurning and Jackass movie retardation broke his teeth so he bought some Hollywood veneers

>> No.53233854

>>53233810
I recommend buying some ducks to guard your computer.

>> No.53233872

>>53233401

>he doesn't have a poetry folder

NGMI

>> No.53233883

I keep it all on 1 exchange, the fuck is a seed?

>> No.53233917

>>53230585
I have kept my seed phrase in a plain text file unencrypted on a shared VPN network and multiple cloud storage databases for years and never lost a cent. Bite me faggots.

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53234620

>not keeping your seed phrase in your memory palace

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53234913

>niggers.jpeg
>seed phrase written in misprint spray can

>> No.53234924

>>53234913
Ms paint

>> No.53234938

>>53230585
>Is this sort of sentiment just coming from low IQ people who just want to roleplay like they are secret spies in some James Bond spy film? Do they really think they can keep something for god knows how long without people seeing it or losing it?

it is so pathetic. i have mine written down in a wordpad document like anyone else who isnt a total schizo.

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53235131

>>53230585
Writing it down without using letters is the key to defeat keyloggers. Add one other layer of security like location/decoys or a cipher for extra security.

I run a local WoW server as a single player and used map editor to write my seedphrase in the floor under karazhan where ordinarily the smiley is. Just make sure never to log out there.
You can also just use map files from any other game like rairoad tycoon or whatever, just keep in mind someone might see it the instant they open the file/map

>> No.53236261

>>53230585
i tattooed it inside my foreskin

>> No.53236294

Wait.. you guys don't have passphrase you keep only in your head for your hidden wallets on your 12 or 24 word seeds?

lol

>> No.53236301

>>53236261
But you'll lose it when you finish transitioning

>> No.53237929

>>53230585
You might just get hit one day. Try to keep everything crypto-related private. I always use privacy protocols to keep tx anonymous.

>> No.53238008

>>53233810
That's risky because your computer could go bad. Put it online somewhere

>> No.53238035

>>53230898
I trained ants with sugar and little sticks to form morse code in our yards sandbox, it takes them three days to fully display the code and if you are not watching it all the time you are going to miss part of the seed, this gives me enough time to drop bricks to the invaders from our huge mansions balcony

>> No.53238040

>>53230585
the reason why it makes no sense to encrypt a seed and publish it is the key that protects a seed would have the same entropy as the seed itself.

remembering the two is equally difficult unless you compromised your security with a weak ass password.

>> No.53238153

>>53231271
every hash algo is a cipher and every cipher is a hash algo. it just depends on how you use them. convention.

>> No.53238370

I leave mine on exchange

>> No.53238382

>>53238153
for example i can use sha256 to encrypt a private key.
let's say your private key is L4xFg9tFhvUgXzjh6UKXYidu6PMYj2dgzDzzwZxZqaBNSnzbmm4Q
in hex e6bf5b069518f51625826311b0dc53ee224e4e874a1e9c1fd565654f904df0fe

and the password is "baby don't hurt me!"
which has the hash of 21a4be5c5ade670d41dbf3f3c08030b5a0d91d9abd57a488ed543230d8b831d3

encrypted using simple xor is c71be55acfc6921b645990e2705c635b8297531df74938973831577f48f5c12d

decryption is using xor again with the same hash.
now i can xor up the 2

>> No.53238415

>>53230585
does anyone have the explorer link for that address? i wanna see if the suspect got raped financially

>> No.53238481

>>53238382
so then you could just store that in base58 format again as compressed private key
L2CtNUnsaXQnkM6CmPvcDFQ8HgMCkBe6ic8bXFk9hS9oeVft8quL
and nobody would ever know that you protect that with a passphrase using sha256.

>> No.53240471

>>53237929
I've got the ease of managing all my wallets from my universal OREID account using just one login ID.

>> No.53241352

My seed phrase is on my cloud provider in a folder only a accessed through 2fa. How fucked am I?

>> No.53241398

>>53230585
>too stupid to just fucking think about the possible angles of attack for 5 seconds
>too stupid to do a web search that takes 5 seconds

let's make another time wasting thread

>> No.53241950

>>53238382
You so retarded

>> No.53242045

>>53233854
Only pajeet buy ducks when they can an ID tool to manage multiple wallets and still earn massively on ORE's liquidity mining pool.

>> No.53242224

>>53233810
Windows™ File© Indexer® can read that file
discord can read it
telegram can read it
literally anything running on your computer can read it

>> No.53242361

>>53231075
>obscure book
This is the best way to communicate in secret as well.
I have multiple friends with the same copy of a very obscure and long book.
Same edition.
In emergency we can send over BS through the mail and only someone with the book as well as the pre decided means of deciphering can do anything with it.
One Time Pad.

>> No.53242693

>>53235131
>Writing it in the wall of a hidden cave in a Minecraft map

>> No.53242800

>>53241950
lemme guess, you re a brainlet that doesn't even know what cipher means.

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53242918

I don’t bother securing my seed phrase because I’m always losing money

>> No.53242950 [DELETED] 

>>53238382
>sha256 to encrypt a private key.
You cannot use a HASH function to encrypt something.

>> No.53242971

>>53242950
yes you can. functionally hash functions and ciphers are interchangeable. everyone reading a book on cryptography in his life knows this.

>> No.53242976

>>53231178
Some people have like 5+ seed phrases for multiple wallets

>> No.53245230

>>53242976
you can derive infinite number of seeds/wallets from a single one you memorized.

>> No.53245260

>>53245230
okay that's a lie it's not actually infinite it's just such a big ass number that it would break your mind to try comprehend it.

>> No.53245337

>>53230585
What the fuck is a seed phrase? I just let the exchange keep my shitcoins safe for me

>> No.53245391

>>53245337
a seed phrase is what you shout when you nut into a fertile female.

>> No.53245408

>>53245391
mine is "i'm not paying child support!!"

>> No.53245541

I wrote a poem and put the words in specific positions

>> No.53246916

>>53238370
Based.
Not your keys, not your problem.