/smg/ - Stock Market General

[Anonymous No.53142586]

Illuminati edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://guro.booru.org/
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiOs3-llXq5CGQPNHf_3-nYZ4d_w7OP52

>Financial TV Streams:
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-fox-business-network-fbn-free-24-7/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc:
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://wallmine.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/

Previous thread:
>>53139035

[Anonymous No.53142603]

Real thread
>>53142569
>>53142569
>>53142569

[Anonymous No.53143132]

Can you guys hurry up and get fired so the Fed will calm down? This is gonna end badly for everyone

[Anonymous No.53143760]

you were warned

[Anonymous No.53143806]

REMINDER NAMEFAGS AND TRIPFAGS GET THE ROPE

[Anonymous No.53143816]

>>53143806
Why did you pick this Webm

[Anonymous No.53143820]

>>53143816
I was in my /sp/ folder.

[Anonymous No.53143831]

Im bullish on brown people and 40 year old childless roasties populations exploding, is there any ETF or play available for me?

[Anonymous No.53143836]

>>53142586
Nat gas bros is it too late to buy kold
How low is this shit going? Can it actually go to 2 in this market? I don’t know shit about natty gas but looking at the kold chart seems like it could go back to $100 pretty easy if natty gas keeps dumping

[Anonymous No.53143840]

>>53143831
disney and warner bros

[Anonymous No.53143841]

test

[Anonymous No.53143844]

>>53143806
POST IT

[Anonymous No.53143848]

>>53143831
LVMH

[Anonymous No.53143860]

rycey up 4% just saying

[Anonymous No.53143876]

Sooooo do we buy OIL now or what?
Will it go under 70?
Saudis wouldnt allow that right anon?

[Anonymous No.53143881]

>>53143844

[Anonymous No.53143883]

How delusional do you have to be to be bullish on Tesla?

[Anonymous No.53143886]

>natgas down almost 20% in 1 week

[Anonymous No.53143891]

>>53143760
The only time yields will come down is when feds cut rates

[Anonymous No.53143899]

>>53143831
LULU

[Anonymous No.53143907]

I've been away for a year and a half, whatever happened to CLF tranny? Did he lose everything?

[Anonymous No.53143928]

>>53143907
How was prison?

[Anonymous No.53143936]

N

[Anonymous No.53143938]

>orthodox christmas
>temporary ceasefire at Russia Ukraine war
uh oh bobos..

[Anonymous No.53143946]

>>53143907
Unironically yes
He made a million and then got big headed and blew it all up gambling on other risky options.

[HARBNIGER OF THE MELTDOWN No.53143970]

>>53142586
how dumb do you have to be to not understand what happens next

[Anonymous No.53143981]

>>53143970
Soon brother

[Anonymous No.53143984]

>>53143883
You'd have to be able to read financial statements instead of shill posting on a Vietnamese basket weaving forum

[Anonymous No.53143990]

are you looking forward to buying the jews and the boomers bags over the next decade? who are you going to sell them to, spics and niggers?

[Anonymous No.53144000]

>>53143970
You only sold options? If you’re so sure why don’t you buy puts. Unless you’re implying the market will go up

[Anonymous No.53144008]

>>53143970

how dumb do you have to be to look at a chart of the SPY and think you know what is going on? You should keep "Selling premium" Since you have zero understanding how to generate alpha beyond that, LOL. Clown

[HARBNIGER OF THE MELTDOWN No.53144009]

>>53143990
buying stocks as an investment is for boomers
the key is to never buy or hold stocks and bleed them to death using options

>>53144000
buying or selling makes no difference they both do the same thing
you newbies are something else

[Anonymous No.53144012]

NattyGaskeks...

[Anonymous No.53144014]

did the tesla baggies capitulate (physically)?

[Anonymous No.53144018]

I migrated to a worse thread....

smg is always consistent

>constantly BAD!

AHAHAHAHHAH

[Anonymous No.53144020]

Women owe me sex.

[Anonymous No.53144022]

>>53143970
>one year sample size
>Acting like you understand the Market

Ok

[Anonymous No.53144024]

Mumus are real quiet right now , what happened to your cockiness ? Muh rally muh inflation peaked muh the bottom is in

[Anonymous No.53144030]

>>53143907
he was at ~$1.5 million after CLF
then he decided to use that money to go all-in different positions
>all-in SPY calls
market proceeds to dump
>all-in SPY puts
market proceeds to rally
>all-in TSLA calls
tesla proceeds to dump
he made 3-4 trades like this in a row, where he was buying hundreds & hundreds of contracts for similar strikes and dates
he lost ~750K
then he quit, withdrew all of his funds and bought a house
now he just posts links to his twitch stream of him smoking weed and playing video games and trying to talk ebonics

[Anonymous No.53144032]

FUCK SCHWAB
FUCK SILVERGATE

FUCK SCHWAB FOR NOT LETTING ME ADD TO MY SILVERGATE SHORT ON THAT RIDICULOUS PUMP

[Anonymous No.53144034]

>>53144009
>buying or selling makes no difference they both do the same thing
dumbest thing i've ever read

[HARBNIGER OF THE MELTDOWN No.53144036]

>>53144022
i am the market understander and thats just something youre going to have to live with

[Anonymous No.53144037]

>>53143876
Unironically yes.

[Anonymous No.53144040]

>>53144009
>buying stocks as an investment is for boomers
the key is to never buy or hold stocks and bleed them to death using options

...do you know how stocks work?

I mean, you're a namefag on 4chan so I shouldn't expect much, but still.

[Anonymous No.53144049]

Shill me some small caps to gamble $100 on.

[Anonymous No.53144052]

>this has been the last month of the market
If you liked 382 the last few weeks, you'll love it for the next two!

[Anonymous No.53144054]

>>53144024
>muh inflation peaked muh the bottom is in
Unironically yes.

[HARBNIGER OF THE MELTDOWN No.53144060]

>>53144034
open your mind and youll see buying and selling are just yin and yang two sides of the same coin (that goes in a jews pocket)
>>53144040
do you know how options work? you can control far more stock with options contracts for much less money i mean this is the first thing you learn on whatever youtube video you watched to learn about the market or whatever im sure

[Anonymous No.53144072]

>>53144032
FUCKING COST ME SO MUCH GAINS

[Jealous No.53144073]

Markets Have "Considerably More Downside" In 2023: Mark Spiegel
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/markets-have-considerably-more-downside-2023-mark-speigel
>Stated simply, there’s no way an “everything bubble” built on 0% interest rates and $120 billion/month in quantitative easing can not implode when confronted with near-5% rates and $90 billion a month in quantitative tightening.

[Anonymous No.53144076]

>>53144060

post current position before your damage control begins

[Anonymous No.53144082]

Calling Natgas 2.10
Will buy calls after that

>>53144054
GRABBLER NO GRABBLING!

[Anonymous No.53144084]

>>53144034
He's probably talking about pic related

[Anonymous No.53144089]

>>53144032
This is why you should always split your portfolio between 2+ brokerages.

[Anonymous No.53144093]

>>53144020
you just know

[Anonymous No.53144094]

>>53143938
Putin is so fucking dumb, always there to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

[Anonymous No.53144109]

>>53143844
I had an amusing edit where someone shooped the sarlacc pit over her pussy but now I can't find it. I'd probably just catch a ban for posting it anyhow.

[Anonymous No.53144123]

>>53144054
GRABBLER NO GRABBLING!

[Anonymous No.53144129]

>>53144054
what happen if you post grabbler no grabbler and you have no investment

[Anonymous No.53144142]

how many weeks can we crab around 380 on spy

[Anonymous No.53144144]

>>53144129
Cash is a position

[Anonymous No.53144148]

KWAB

[Anonymous No.53144156]

>>53143806
Tripfags and namefags should not exist on an anonymous website. The name field exists for jokes and for keeping track of multiple posts made by one person (such as telling a long story), and tripfags exist solely to verify legitimacy when telling information where consistency over long periods is necessary for validation.

Misuse of these should be bannable.

[Anonymous No.53144163]

>>53144142
Many

[Anonymous No.53144168]

>>53144142
not long
another 1 tops
then earnings will start to come in for Q4
>reminder new JPM collar does not see SPX rising above 4,030 by 3/31
>reminder that JPM sees the market in the 3,600 to 3,040 range by quarter end

[Anonymous No.53144169]

Has Investing.com been a piece of shit for anyone else the last couple days?

[Anonymous No.53144189]

>>53144142
>how many weeks can we crab around 380 on spy
Apparently forever, from what the last 9 months has showed us.
>>53144148
>not your keys
Lol stupid cryptards
>>53144169
It's been wonky for me, too. Switching back and forth between values, and taking ~30 seconds to update to the current prices/#s, when you first go to the site.

[Anonymous No.53144203]

nvdatards how could this happen to us, how could our shitco be dumping like this...

[Anonymous No.53144202]

>>53144148
I don't know what any of the things in your pic related are.

[Anonymous No.53144207]

I was ridiculed for liquidating yesterday.

[Anonymous No.53144208]

What's going on with natural gas?

[Anonymous No.53144217]

>>53144148
I still can't fathom why anyone with half a brain would keep a significant amount of crypto on an exchange.

[Anonymous No.53144225]

>>53144189
>It's been wonky for me, too. Switching back and forth between values, and taking ~30 seconds to update to the current prices/#s, when you first go to the site
yeah same here

[Anonymous No.53144230]

>msft 330 1/6 call

[Anonymous No.53144232]

bull chads....

what teh fuck happened

[Anonymous No.53144243]

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

[Anonymous No.53144249]

>>53144207
It’s the 1.4%, 14 usd gain for selling the whole portfolio that people find funny

[Anonymous No.53144250]

>>53144230
F

[Anonymous No.53144251]

>>53144207
>$14.40
this is your regular bobo poster

[Anonymous No.53144254]

Time for UPRO?

[Anonymous No.53144261]

>>53144230
>350 1/20
I'll be ok right?

[Anonymous No.53144271]

Is it time to buy more GOOG

[Anonymous No.53144273]

Someone tell Jerome to turn the printers back on RIGHT FUCKING NOW

[Anonymous No.53144279]

BTW i told you RIO is still cheap

[Anonymous No.53144297]

>>53144271
Yes

[Anonymous No.53144300]

>these are the elon mong stans doubling down on this cancer '''''''stock''''''''''
some more way to go yet

[Anonymous No.53144306]

>>53144300
>At a 1/4 discount

[Anonymous No.53144314]

Somehow, my position in delta is up.

DALChads..

[Anonymous No.53144316]

2023 is going to be even worse than 2022 isnt it

[Anonymous No.53144318]

BILIchads we just keep winning

[Anonymous No.53144321]

this guy posts 24/7 about how he's not worried about putting all his families money in elon's bags, sometimes he begs the stock to go up.

[Anonymous No.53144322]

>>53144316
For you.

[Anonymous No.53144325]

I bought intel calls expiring in March

[Anonymous No.53144327]

>>53144300
>>53144306
>discount
however, in clown world these people are often times proven to be correct in their honky assumptions

[Anonymous No.53144334]

China bros we are winning once again

[Anonymous No.53144342]

>>53144316
God i hope so.
Any other good private security companies aside from picrel? Preferably US based.

[Anonymous No.53144347]

HELE dumped too. I was shorting that along w/ Silvergate yesterday

HELE moving forward is going to miss, miss again, guide down, and miss again on the guidedown. HELE should be trading at 20-30$. Their real EPS is 2$ / share and yet they keep reporting its over 7$ / share because they use fake non-GAAP accounting

[Anonymous No.53144351]

>>53144273
No.

[Anonymous No.53144361]

GME is being rug pulled in slow motion every single day

[Anonymous No.53144363]

>>53144321
>>53144300

[Anonymous No.53144372]

>>53144300
From a strictly business-oriented point of view, Tesla stocks are a great investment.
Yes, they fall a lot, and could potentially fall even more. But Tesla is still hands down the best electric car company on the planet. Not only this, but they are investing in the energy sector.
Tesla stocks lost value because they were way too over-evaluated (something that Americans like to do, just look at fucking apple for example), there was no way that Tesla was worth more than all north American car companies combined, but "it was". Now they are close to the real value, not some retarded fairy tale.

[Anonymous No.53144375]

could MSFT be a big play considering its relationship with chatGPT/openAI?

[Anonymous No.53144377]

>>53144203
Because the 40 series is an abject failure.

[Anonymous No.53144378]

>>53144351
I heard of shitting dick nipples, but titty hands? Damn.

[Jealous No.53144380]

>>53144347

[Anonymous No.53144381]

>>53144363
Is making money on Youtube really this easy?

[Anonymous No.53144387]

>>53144363
I bet that 95% of TSLA holders cant even afford a baseline Tesla.

[Anonymous No.53144391]

>>53144361
I find it funny they tried to use lum against you as some sort of counter shitpost

[Anonymous No.53144392]

>>53144377
This is true, but they've also marked up the MSRPs to retarded levels so they should be making absolute bank off whatever retards buy that shit.

[Anonymous No.53144399]

>>53144381
>Is grifting retarded TSLA/DOGE monkeys really this easy?

[Anonymous No.53144400]

>>53143806
She looks like she’s on the bad side of 35, why take pictures
It’s like photographing moldy bread

[Anonymous No.53144401]

IDK if you guys realize how fucking disastrous the two job prints this morning were and it's a miracle S&P is only down like 1% so far. ADP came up 50%(!) above expectations, that means we added 50% more private sector jobs in december than anyone thought. And weekly jobless was 20k light. The economy is still red hot and the fed is going to continue to be insensitive to easing inflation until everyone's finally unemployed. It's free money shorting here.

>b-b-but we're oversold! b-b-but muh january effect!
sure, keep playing with your fidget spinner TA indicators and wikipedia meme rallies and not paying attention to the real world.

[Anonymous No.53144412]

>>53144372
>Apple
>overvalued
Apple products and their ecosystem are the lifeblood of more than two thirds of the global societal interaction and communication structure.
By monetary means, the company is ridiculously "undervalued."

[Anonymous No.53144415]

>>53144375
I feel like people are jumping the gun on the impact of GPT. It will be impactful, but I feel like it won't be felt until the next economic cycle takes off at least. Full disclosure: I am an MSFT baggie.

[Anonymous No.53144422]

>>53142586
SI BTFO, cryptards btfo. Bankruptcy imminent.
"Silvergate said recent bankruptcies across the crypto industry have sparked a cautious stance from customers. As a result, Silvergate's total digital asset deposits declined to $3.8 billlion in the fourth quarter from $11.9 billion in the third quarter.

As of Dec. 31, approximately $150 million of Silvergate's deposits were from customers that have filed for bankruptcy"
-TOS newswire, cant link.

[Anonymous No.53144431]

>>53144401
If everyone is unemployed you need to keep order.
Please answer me this: >>53144342

[Anonymous No.53144438]

>>53144401
jobs data isn't even worse than two months ago

[Anonymous No.53144440]

>>53144372
Tesla's a shit company that survives on energy credits. Their cars are overpriced Chink junk. Once other auto manufacturers really start ramping up their EV production it's over for Tesla.

[Anonymous No.53144443]

>>53144415
when's the next cycle though? I'd imagine its around 2 years off. I could DCA a bit into MSFT during this downturn

[Jealous No.53144452]

At what price did Bill Gates short Tesla?

[Anonymous No.53144453]

>>53144375
Microsoft already is heavily involved in the machine learning space, I don't think openAI or GPT will have any impact.

[Anonymous No.53144455]

>>53144401
High employment is a good thing. Don't be silly. SPY should be mooning right now because companies are making profits and the dollar is devaluing so they'll make even bigger future profits.

[Anonymous No.53144456]

>>53144401

>forward vs backward looking indicators

the 30 year yield says "no, retard" to your post.

[Anonymous No.53144457]

>>53144391
ever since they tried using my wife they've made about 12 new 52 week lows and the descending triangle pattern broke to the downside
they sure aren't posting her much at all these days, lol!

[Anonymous No.53144458]

>>53144243
Do people still think that GME will go up to 400 or something?

[Anonymous No.53144466]

>>53144381
>Is making money on Youtube really this easy?
well, check the latest entries on the top.
apparently it is, until the death threats from mislead people arrive.

[Anonymous No.53144473]

If you think chatGPT is impressive imagine what they have behind closed doors.

[Anonymous No.53144474]

>>53144401
Post your 25x leveraged shorts or you're a phony.

[Anonymous No.53144479]

>>53144458
Retards in /gme/ think its going to go to a million dollars or something

[Anonymous No.53144482]

>>53144443
24-25 I reckon.

[Anonymous No.53144484]

>>53144375
MSFT and AAPL are truly strong cash flush companies with dividends. Google, amzn and meta literally only do what Microsoft or Apple does but worse.

[Anonymous No.53144485]

>>53144422
Should I hold onto my SI 01/13 puts or sell it now?

[Anonymous No.53144488]

All you had to do was buy oil

[Anonymous No.53144490]

>>53144401
>still gets shocked by muh hawkish fed rhetoric
oh really wow literally nobody did see it coming that's some big headline you got there anon.
economy too strong. inflation never going down. fed will never change and let the economy go into free fall. SELL SELL SELL LEDDIT SELL

[Anonymous No.53144502]

>>53144452
Not sure if they ever made that info public, anon. The amount was for $500mm, though

[Anonymous No.53144503]

All in on BBBY. No way it goes lower than this

[Anonymous No.53144505]

>>53144488
come on, zoom out a little :^)

[Anonymous No.53144525]

>>53144473
Everything they have behind closed doors is racist and antisemitic

[Anonymous No.53144529]

>>53144381
Actually yes. As long as you talk about a subject people like & buy the promotions to put your video ahead of others, pretty much you can take in a ton of money. Just never apologize for anything you do.

>>53144479
What the fuck? How did they come up to this conclusion? I just checked the thread and they are all talking about it’s going to the moon.

[Anonymous No.53144533]

>>53144505
n-no

[Anonymous No.53144536]

Redpill me on airline stocks. I still hold UAL that I bought right after the covid drop but it's boring the shit out of me

[Anonymous No.53144537]

>>53144466
>Fed will be forced to pivot
I’m really confused by what metrics these people go off of to assume stuff like that.

[Anonymous No.53144542]

>>53144525
I mean, they are logic machines, so...

[Anonymous No.53144544]

imagining buying stocks during the beginning of an officially recognized global recession

[Anonymous No.53144550]

>>53144392
That's the problem, no ones buying them. And the ones that do buy are having massive, public problems.
A streamer my GF watches just dropped $5k on a 4090 pre-build and it simply doesn't work, bluescreen out of the box. Took him a week to get it fixed.

[Anonymous No.53144555]

>>53144452
lol I wonder if Michael "you have no idea how short I am" Burry bought puts on TSLA again.

[Anonymous No.53144557]

>>53144440
lol.
other automakers have a 4% profit margin
Tesla has 18-20%
Tesla has $2 billion in debt
every other auto maker already has $60 billion plus in debt
>yeah well, they'll take on more debt, and ramp up their production, as they really want their 4% profit margin!!
No.
No they won't.
Tesla is still extremely overvalued at $360+ billion market cap
You should argue from this perspective, not from
>other automakers are going to outcompete Tesla in the electric vehicle space, just watch, you'll see!!
as this is completely retarded, and not going to happen
for example, this is the Chevy bolt
>pic related
This car is going to outcompete Tesla!!! Everyone will drive the Chevy bolt rather than a Tesla!!!
Look how nice this car is!!!
this is you.
No.
Not going to happen.
You need to think about it from the automakers perspective
are they going to expand aggressively, take on more debt, into something where they have a 4% profit margin?
No.
Tesla will outcompete, have a lower price for a better car, with worldwide production
again, they only have $2 billion in debt
they can do whatever the fuck they want to expand
$2 billion in debt with a 20% profit margin
and again, they are still extremely overvalued, and the share price will drop another 30%+ from here
but that is due to them being overvalued, not because other automakers are going to compete in the EV space
Pro-tip: They can't

[Anonymous No.53144560]

>>53144544
Just bought more GEO

[Anonymous No.53144563]

>>53144503
>No way it goes lower than this
what do you know understand about bankruptcy? BBBY themselves are literally telling you they go out of business

[Anonymous No.53144564]

Why are there three /smg/s in the catlog?

[Anonymous No.53144570]

>>53144473
can I use that thing to do my due diligence? I just wanna post with my /smg/ friends, not read and shit for hours

[Anonymous No.53144577]

>>53144544
>officially recognized global recession
Who has *officially* recognized that we're in a global recession?
Don't they keep using blue ball language about this apparent recession?

[Anonymous No.53144583]

>

[Anonymous No.53144584]

>>53144473
It's not impressive it's a meme. The reason it's being spammed about is because they want more self-awareness among the population to help calibrate it. Really these chat "AIs" are going to be stuck in a feedback loop or be rendered worthless if something changes among the general population's online conversations.

[Anonymous No.53144597]

>>53144401
>much higher
>much longer
the US economy is ridiculously strong and will be at least until the tail end of this decade while the FED continuously raises their rates.
we'll enter the 2030s with a FED funds rate well above 7%

[Anonymous No.53144606]

>>53144584
Anon i'm a web developer and i've managed to basically completely automate my job by utilizing chatGPT to write all my code. It's impressive whether you think so or not.

[Anonymous No.53144622]

>>53144490
>economy go into free fall
Market isn't the economy, mumu

[Anonymous No.53144624]

Why is XLU sharting so hard if we are headed for a recession?

[Anonymous No.53144625]

>>53144606
I automated my job without chatGPT. That's not an accomplishment.

[Anonymous No.53144634]

So am I the only one going to short this Ponzi HKD or is it true /smg/ hates money

[Anonymous No.53144635]

WHY THE FUCK CAN'T I SELL TESLA? I BOUGHT FOR A QUICK SCALP

I DON'T WANT TO OWN THIS SHIT COMPANY WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

[Anonymous No.53144637]

>>53144378
Lmao.
Playing I Spy while watching the SPY.
Good stuff anon.

[Anonymous No.53144640]

>>53144625
The accomplishment is I'm fucking retarded so if I can do it corporations can do it.

[Anonymous No.53144643]

>>53144634
you're not shorting it because there are no shares available to borrow

[Anonymous No.53144648]

>>53144557
Anon if they cant produce a 15-20k car that can travel 300 miles and charge fully in an hour its over for them.
Every manufacturer makes the most money with their cheap beginner cars.
Vw Polo/Golf various toyotas and other small asian shitboxes

[Anonymous No.53144653]

Today starts the New Great Recession

[Anonymous No.53144655]

>>53144473
It isnt impressive. It fails to make logical conclusions. At best its a way to cheapen online support ticket systems on the most baisc level by using less resources and time than a human to copy paste a pre defined answer.
Chatgpt is basically just an artificial Indian

[Anonymous No.53144658]

>>53144635
dont worry pump got postponed until tomorrow

[Anonymous No.53144660]

>>53144653
And thats a good thing for my portfolio.

[Anonymous No.53144661]

>>53144643
yeah cuz I already borrowed them all HAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.53144663]

>>53144634
Why did that shit squeeze so hard

[Anonymous No.53144664]

>>53144635
Why didn’t you sell yesterday? I bought it when it was at 104, held it until it went to 114. I plan on buying back in when it hits 105-104 again

[Jealous No.53144668]

>>53144555
interesting

[Anonymous No.53144671]

>>53144363
the internet was a mistake

[Anonymous No.53144674]

>>53144533
Jesus

[Anonymous No.53144679]

>>53144663
Chinese pump and dump like all the others

[Anonymous No.53144688]

>>53144640
They won't do shit because it defeats their entire purpose. Jobs exist to waste people's time.
You think this country really needs 50 million office workers?

Congratulations on escaping the system though. Hope you're enjoying your newfound free time.

[Anonymous No.53144691]

>>53144634
when a shitco like that pumps the borrow fees usually hit triple digits, I learned my lesson holding a short over the weekend with a 1000% borrow fee. It's safer to short through options, which this stock doesn't have

[Anonymous No.53144692]

>>53144653
>first they nuke our portfolios
>then they nuke us
When does China invade Alaska, again???

[Anonymous No.53144696]

>>53144490
>literally nobody did see it coming
yeah literally nobody does even though it's right in front of their face. the market has been defying the obvious for about a year now.

>Fed: we are going to do a thing
>market: no they won't!! it's a fakeout! they're actually going to do the opposite of thing because everything is psyops and I'm addicted to easy gains!
>Fed: [does thing]
>market: WTF!!!!!

every time the fed steps out of the room everyone starts jacking themselves off again about imminent pivots and how inflation is defeated. Then a new fomc or fed minutes or even just a random governor has a scheduled talk and everyone remembers the fed literally has openly stated they want to see the market go down and stay down because retard rallies undermine the inflation fight. Then a few days pass, everyone forgets about it again and starts jacking each other off again. wash, rinse, repeat.

[Anonymous No.53144700]

>>53144658
>>53144664
THE SELL BUTTON IS LITERALLY GONE I BOUGHT TODAY FOR A DEAD CAT HELLO

[Anonymous No.53144721]

>>53144550
A lot of problems come from the fact this is the first time in a while that the power supply requirement is actually needed - and the old meme IT advice (Don't look at wattage look at pole voltage and consistency: get just enough. This doesn't work when your GPU spikes huge voltage loads and trips power protection.) doesn't apply. Just like how the "Ram speed doesn't matter" took like 5 years to go away.

[Anonymous No.53144728]

>>53144700
>remove ze sell button

[Anonymous No.53144734]

Why are my gold mining stocks going up everyday even though gold is down?

[Anonymous No.53144737]

>>53144688
>You think this country really needs 50 million office workers?
No. But you need prison wardens. And private soldiers. And security.
Have you read Manna?
https://marshallbrain.com/manna1

[Anonymous No.53144738]

>>53144700
>*KNOCK* *KNOCK* *KNOCK* *KNOCK* *KNOCK* *KNOCK* *KNOCK* *KNOCK*
>*RATTLE* *RATTLE* *RATTLE* *RATTLE* *RATTLE* *RATTLE* *RATTLE* *RATTLE* *RATTLE*

[Anonymous No.53144752]

>>53144671
pretty much

[Anonymous No.53144753]

>>53144696
Until the September fomc Powell and his after birth toured around the country proclaiming that they are going to raise rates to 3.7%, which was rightly identified as dovish regarding the situation. Everyone who is still expecting a dovish fed after September, okay, they have are delusional with an open final rate

[Anonymous No.53144764]

>>53144648
>if they cant produce a 15-20k car that can travel 300 miles and charge fully in an hour its over for them.
what in the hell are you on about
is mercedes benz out of business?
is rolls royce out of business?
is BMW out of business?
is Audi out of business?
imagine if you walked into the Volkswagen auto group office and told them
>You need to make an Audi that is 15-20K!!
>You will never succeed as a car manufacturer unless you make a car $15-20K!!
what are you smoking, anon
what are you smoking..
>Every manufacturer makes the most money with their cheap beginner cars.
You're not listening. They make 4% on these vehicles. That is nothing. And that is before (inevitable) price cuts due to the recession weakening demand.
They aren't making money on these 'cheap' 'beginner' cars
They're making 4%
Tesla is making 18-20%.
I cannot emphasize enough how stupid of a line it is to say
>if they cant produce a 15-20k car... its over for them

[Anonymous No.53144776]

>>53144485
probably sell since they're so short-dated. you could always roll em out

>>53144503
>All in on BBBY. No way it goes lower than this
i want you idiots to think about this for a second. when BBBY goes out of business, there will be a % of their market share that will now go to other businesses. who do you think will scoop up BBBY's market share once they're gone?

Wayfair is going out of business as well. So Bloodbath and Beyond and Wayfair go out of business - who scoops up all that market share? Amazon will get some, no doubt, but who else operates in the home vertical that will stand to scoop up some of that revenue?

Wayfair's revenue is ~13$bn and BBY's is ~7$bn. That is 20$bn in revenue up for grabs and hit has to go to someone. If AMZN scoops some up, it wont move the needle since they are so big already. But what about that one stock thats been around for 20 years and never went out of business?

YOU ARE NOW AWARE THAT IT HAS BEEN 20 YEARS AND OVERSTOCK.COM IS STILL IN BUSINESS AND TURNING A PROFIT AND THEIR MARKET CAP IS ONLY 817M$

[Anonymous No.53144775]

>>53144536
why hold them?

[Anonymous No.53144779]

>>53144597
>the economy that needed a decade of ZIRP and QE to stimulate growth is ridiculously strong
Europe will be even worse. The EU wasn't able to stimulate growth with negative interest rates, what do you think will happen with high interest rates?

[Anonymous No.53144789]

BOILbros it was our time......

[Anonymous No.53144794]

Who is brave enough to buy the dip on HKD? Look at the MOASS!

[Anonymous No.53144796]

>>53144738
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.53144804]

TLT CHADS WE WILL RISE FROM THE ASHES

[Anonymous No.53144811]

>>53144779
>what do you think will happen with high interest rates?
absolutely fuck all at first.
we won't be seeing any decisive economic downturn until 2028+, if at all.
yes, i'm serious.

[Anonymous No.53144812]

when dump?

[Anonymous No.53144813]

Bind ETF or laddered bonds for my boomer roth?

[Anonymous No.53144816]

Gonna buy stocks in my Roth now. I will save this sinking ship. lets go slow and steady bros. #wegotthis

[Anonymous No.53144818]

>>53144776
Dumb holes only shop on Etsy

[Anonymous No.53144844]

>>53144816
This is what I’ll authorize you to buy
>INTC
>ET
>JEPI
>SPLG

[Anonymous No.53144845]

>>53144813
bond etf, leveraged, more flexible and you are early

[Anonymous No.53144848]

>>53144764
All the manufacurers have budget cars exept rolls royce.
Some are not quite in the 15-20k range but 20-30k. That still pretty cheap and they can do 120mph all day. They generate the most revenue for them

[Anonymous No.53144852]

>>53144779
I hope Greese and Shitaly finally get kicked out of the Euro and we can just watch them fucking burn. I've been watching my country get poorer since 2008 while we pay a shitload of EU gibs to countries ten times our population and a hundred times our level of corruption.

[Anonymous No.53144857]

Silvergate bros hold the line
the hedgies are getting desparate

[Anonymous No.53144858]

>>53144818
Etsy is fucking trinkets, not home vertical. yeah they've got some homemade pillows and shit but they can't move volume like Overstock and Amazon because its all handmade shit and not factory-built stuff

[Anonymous No.53144873]

>>53144738
Go away Bobo, I'm not home... and if I don't log on, in my mind I haven't lost any money yet, I mean I'm not him, he's not here, I'm just pet sitting for him, bye

[$30K SILJ Calls No.53144881]

SPY is about to go vertical.

Vertically down.

[Anonymous No.53144882]

>>53144696
>THE MARKET IS FORWARD LOOKING AND WE’RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PIVOOOOOOTTTTTT
>FED IS JUST JAWBONING
>FED WILL HAVE TO LET UP SOON
>INFLATION IS HEALING
>SOFT LANDING
>FED WILL BE CUTTING RATES Q2 2023
>NEW ATH Q3 2023
If I had to list all the coping mechanisms mumu went through last year I would run out of space, I mean these fuckers went through 20 different copes from January to December, 2022 was literally the year of cope and it still hasn’t dawned on these bulls what the real situation is.

[Anonymous No.53144890]

>>53144852
I went to Italy and outside of Rome there was trash everywhere, on the highways, alleys, ditches. WTF are these the people making fun of americans on 4chan?

[Anonymous No.53144892]

>>53144789
Muh polar vortex

[Anonymous No.53144894]

>>53144881
whats her @ for the sake of god please

[Anonymous No.53144895]

>>53144852
Not going to happen, they even welcomed a shithole like croatia into the euro group.

[Anonymous No.53144899]

Entire stock market down 1.5%
BTC only down .1%
Are we the retards?

[Anonymous No.53144903]

>>53144881
You know I tried the fart thing with a girl I met on whisper. She had a nice dumper like center of picrel but the farts in my face just didn’t do it for me like this place says it would. It was kind of erotic but the sewage smell was gross. Plus it’s unflattering watching a lovely girl insert a bicycle pump tube into her ass

[Anonymous No.53144904]

>>53144696
what the fed says and what it does are too different things
you are literally believing the fed after muh pivot, muh 1% rate hike in 2022, muh dot plot,...
bond market sees through the talk but sure believe your fav. analyst kike who is telling you the fed will destroy the economy into a severe recession

[Anonymous No.53144909]

sold a couple 0dte 382 spy calls to buy duraflame logs from target. at $20/box and free shipping it's a pretty good deal

[Anonymous No.53144908]

>>53144899
zoom out retard

[Anonymous No.53144916]

>>53144679
How do I short this shit without puts? Someone teach me how to authentically short

[Anonymous No.53144917]

0dte spy calls for maximum degenerate

[Anonymous No.53144918]

>>53144899
Welcome to

[Anonymous No.53144922]

WHENS THE NEXT MARKET MOVING EVENT

I CANT STAND THIS HYPER CRABBING FUCK

[Anonymous No.53144930]

>>53144557
Tesla only had a 18-20% margin because they effectively had no competition in the EV space. It's also easier to pay your employees when your stock price is going up.

[Anonymous No.53144932]

>>53144890
The further south you go even inside Europe, the more third world it gets. It's fucking unreal how you can see a direct inverse correlation between melanin levels and societal quality as a gradient.

[Anonymous No.53144938]

>>53144848
the cheapest mercedes benz is $34k (2020)
the cheapest for BMW is $36k
the cheapest for Audi is $35k
the cheapest model 3 Tesla is 40k
there is clearly a demand for luxury cars
people are fine with spending 36k on a BMW, they are fine spending 40k on a Tesla
the price of Tesla cars will only decrease as time moves forward
Tesla will one day too release a 'cheaper' 'for everyone' car, but now, when they still have a 6 month waitlist where they're making 18-20% per car produced, why would they switch horses midstream?

[Anonymous No.53144939]

dumb /biz/niggers think bear market means the market crashes 30% in a month and you get free gains buying the dip like the fake markets of 2020, you don't get a free lunch anymore

[Anonymous No.53144940]

>>53144909
Just gather sawdust and add a jar of petroleum jelly to it. You can form it into skinny logs and it costs next to nothing.

[Anonymous No.53144943]

I have a $12,500 credit line for my LLC and I have a $1,300 balance on it right now. Should I just pay it all off or is there some benefit to paying in smaller chunks over time?

[Anonymous No.53144955]

>>53144852
They won't kick anyone out until the entire thing collapses in 10-20 years

[Anonymous No.53144965]

>>53144930
oh yeah, the Chevy Bolt is now going to compete hardcore!
who wants to buy a tesla when you can buy this
>18-20% margin
they have massive cushion both in increasing their production costs as well as decreasing their sale price for new vehicles
every other automakers does not have this cushion
they are making 4%. they cannot cut prices. Tesla can.
and again I want to emphasize that I am not bullish on Tesla stock, they are still very, very overvalued
but this whole thing of
>other EV makers are going to outcompete Tesla!!!
is complete and utter nonsense

[Anonymous No.53144966]

>>53144940
oh good call i was wondering what i should do with the 40 pounds of sawdust i had been saving said NO ONE EVER

[Anonymous No.53144968]

>>53144943
Better to be conservative with it and pay back what makes sense, use for large purchases while adding to your cash reserves.

[Anonymous No.53144970]

>>53144938
Yeah but a cheap bmw will do 120mph all day on the autobahn. And fueling it takes 5 minutes. ICE cars are still superior.
Teslas only gained popularity because of stupid mr shekelberg regulations.
Everyone who wants the best wont buy a stupid tesla

[Anonymous No.53144973]

>>53144848
>They generate the most revenue for them
no they don't. Economy/budget cars have shit margins and most manufacturers are phasing them out or heavily outsourcing to lower tier brands (like skoda or seat)

[Anonymous No.53144977]

>>53144932
How do you explain the U.K. then?

[Anonymous No.53144983]

>>53144917
I just bought these 1 min ago $259 QQQ calls for Tuesday. Less degenerate, already ITM, and a little more time

[Anonymous No.53144991]

Wait a second.. you're telling me that people, in this thread, unironically, are still bullish on TSLA?

[Anonymous No.53145003]

>>53144991
haha no we're only bullish on BBBY here

[Anonymous No.53145014]

>>53144983
ah I see, another CPI betting degenerate

[Anonymous No.53145018]

>>53145003
nice try I'm still not buying

[Anonymous No.53145020]

>>53144991
For a fat dead cat bounce rip back to at least $150, yeah. With that said I'm getting fucking chopped up and I can't take it anymore!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.53145026]

>>53145014
Nah just a quick flip

[Anonymous No.53145027]

>>53144968
Is there actually any downside to holding a balance on the card, aside from paying interest? I have enough cash to pay off the whole balance now but I have an irrational urge to keep the number in my bank account from decreasing

[Anonymous No.53145030]

only /smg/ would still be bearish after a literal 50% decline in a month

tesla is going up, as are the indices. No matter how contrarian you want to be

[Anonymous No.53145031]

>>53144983
>>53145026
well I checked again you didn't bet on Jan 12 but Jan 10.. well.. bad play anon..

[Anonymous No.53145034]

>>53144991
It's oversold. Going to $200 at least in the next month.

[Anonymous No.53145036]

boo

[Anonymous No.53145037]

It's really and comfy and nice how you guys still talk about cars.

[Anonymous No.53145040]

>>53144970
>Yeah but a cheap bmw will do 120mph all day on the autobahn
Tesla literally has better speed and better acceleration than a BMW lol.
>And fueling it takes 5 minutes
people with a Tesla have their own garage, where they never have to go a gas station (unless they're making a very long distance trip)
they can fuel their car from the comfort of their home
and if they do need to fuel up somewhere on a long trip, it takes 15 minutes..
>Teslas only gained popularity because of stupid mr shekelberg regulations
lol - keep telling yourself that
everyone wants to buy an electric car. go look up surveys done on
>How likely is it the next car you purchase is an EV
>How likely is it that you buy an EV
you'll be surprised at the percentages - you should really research it yourself, instead of taking my word for it
for example:
>Some 37% of premium vehicle owners indicate they are 'very likely' to consider an EV for their next purchase
and this is a world wide phenomenon
for example, Tesla just broke a record that has been held in Norway since 1969
https://electrek.co/2022/12/22/tesla-model-y-beats-best-selling-car-record-norway/
people want electric cars.
people want Teslas.
the company is still overvalued - but saying
>nobody wants an EV!
is ridiculous, and wrong

[Anonymous No.53145043]

>>53145018
check the RSI retard, it's ridiculously oversold

[Anonymous No.53145054]

>>53145034
Is this "oversold" in the room with us right now?

[Anonymous No.53145055]

>>53145030
Equities are going to get roughed up even more this year. I dunno why anyone would be buying in right now in a hawkish Fed environment.

[Anonymous No.53145057]

>>53144965
The other EV makers have barely started. That margin will fall pretty rapidly when they have to compete with real products in volume. You also have to consider that owning a Tesla has now become a political statement, effectively cutting their potential customer base in half. None of the other EV makers have this problem.

[Anonymous No.53145073]

>>53144916
Unfortunately as the anon above said there are currently no shares to borrow and no options on HKD. I looked to see if there might be an ETF with significant exposure and couldn't find any so everybody not already on board will miss this ride. Shorting in general is easy though. You need a broker that supports shorting, i.e. not Robinhood and there'll be a button that just says "short" or something like that next to the buy and sell buttons

[Anonymous No.53145079]

>>53145055
>I dunno why anyone would be buying in right now in a hawkish Fed environment.
the market is forward looking while the fed backwards looking.
if you literally wait until muh pivot it's already too late and you already missed like 60% of the move up

[Anonymous No.53145085]

>>53144372

[Anonymous No.53145088]

>>53144030
>now he just posts links to his twitch stream of him smoking weed and playing video games and trying to talk ebonics
I would dig the side out of a national forest if I had 6 figures
>muh bing bing and pot Morty!
what a nigger

[Anonymous No.53145093]

>>53144529
>What the fuck? How did they come up to this conclusion? I just checked the thread and they are all talking about it’s going to the moon.
They think it's possible because of fraud by the Citadel market maker essentially printing shares as to dilute the stock which creates unrealised profits for the Citadel hedgefund.

In theory it's possible.

[Anonymous No.53145094]

>>53145031
As if I'm holding til then. I just scalp shit up and down all day for fun and pocket change

[Anonymous No.53145098]

>>53144922
Expect some news out of China in the near future. The market there has pumped hard lately and the party members will be taking profits soon. When that happens it'll be another round of "zero covid" or tech company crack downs or whatever other excuse they trot out to dump on the plebs again. When that happens other world indexes will catch some of the down draft

[Anonymous No.53145117]

>>53145037
Well this is an American website after all.

[Anonymous No.53145122]

>>53144431
But anon, everyone isn't unemployed. That's the problem.

[Anonymous No.53145132]

>>53145055

you could have made that argument/statement literally the last 10 bear market rallies and missed the free +10% in 3 trading days. If you're too shitty to maneuver trades just stay in your lane. Market is going to 400 before 375

[Anonymous No.53145137]

>>53145057
>The other EV makers have barely started
what I am trying to tell you is that they literally cannot afford to "start"
go look up the longterm debt of every big automaker
then go look up Tesla's longterm debt
you want a company with $124 billion in longterm debt (Toyota) to take on even more debt to expand into a space where their margins are extremely small
it's just not going to happen
in order to get the scale that Tesla has, in order to get the price point that Tesla has, they would need to invest $50 billion plus
that's not going to happen anon
will the other automakers have electric vehicles?
Yeah.
Will they be able to compete with Tesla, in the quality of vehicle produced + features, for the price of a Tesla?
No. Never.
>owning a Tesla has now become a political statement
this too will blow over
within 6 months, the entire narrative will have shifted to
>holy shit, Elon really turned Twitter around!
>wow, with 1/4 of the team, he's implementing good changes faster than ever before
>wow, all of us tech companies need to look at how we're doing things
>if Twitter could function with 25% of its staff, what can we do at our companies?
I am not denying that he pissed off a lot of liberals on Twitter
but you need to remember that the vast majority of liberals on Twitter are
>A: women
>B: women who don't work
These aren't Tesla's target demographic lol.

[Anonymous No.53145138]

>>53145122
Everyone is a neet

[Anonymous No.53145142]

>>53145027
That’s exactly what I’m telling you, make small not minimum payments, but significant payments to pay it off in 2 or 3 billing cycles while using your excess cash to add to your savings/cash reserves while still making comfortable payments to pay it off. The cash you have on hand is always better than fully paying it off debt that small. Use it for unexpected expenses or large purchases only while you can’t still be building your cash reserves. The interest you will pay on that will be minimal compared to having a cash reserve on hand, while still building your business credit.

[Anonymous No.53145149]

Can you guys please sell so we can break below 3800? Just get it over with you know it's inevitable

[Anonymous No.53145169]

>>53145138
Exactly. Or, well, retired/on welfare. Those are all NEETs but only the actively "unemployed" have the desperation and resentment.

[Anonymous No.53145171]

>>53145149
not gonna hppen theyve been pumping it back over 3800 for weeks

[Anonymous No.53145182]

>>53145094
works until it doesn't and tight stop losses are shit in this volatility either. risk/reward for chump change = shit
I'd rather get fucked on important economic prints for big moves

[Anonymous No.53145185]

>>53145149
Not til tomorrow

[Anonymous No.53145188]

>>53144485
I'd sell. I'm holding my 1/27 puts till tomorrow and either rolling or selling.
IMO this shit is going to 0, just a matter of how long they can drag it out. I know they have a class action suit with happenings in February.

[Anonymous No.53145189]

>>53145171
This same type of crabbing happened in 2008 before the big drop

[Anonymous No.53145204]

>>53144032
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

[Anonymous No.53145207]

Lol silvergate, signature bank next

[Anonymous No.53145213]

>>53145057
>Tesla has now become a political statement, effectively cutting their potential customer base in half
I hear this about every company that has some kind of controversy and it always goes away after a quarter or two. Remember when everybody was going to quit buying Nike and then they went on to all time high profits and stock price. If anything Elon's antics will add to the Tesla customer base. Right wingers with money who would never dream about buying an electric car will now reconsider and the leftists will never leave cuz of the whole "consume product get excited" narrative that they fall for so well

[Anonymous No.53145218]

>>53144484
>MSFT and AAPL are truly strong cash flush companies with dividends.
Aren't they reliant on corporate capex and discretionary consumer spending respectively? Are you sure those are recession proof?

[Anonymous No.53145222]

>>53145182
Already have plays for those

[Anonymous No.53145226]

>>53142586
I just woke up and checked the markets
>MFW

Just in time to buy the dip!

[Anonymous No.53145227]

>>53145027
>>53145142
Can still be building your cash reserve*.... Pay small debt like that off in a few payment cycles, while focus on building your cash reserve, cash is still always king and it’s better to build actual cash on and than worry about aggressive business line of credit for a balance that low. Think of it like this for example it’s better to pay $40 in interest a few months while putting $300 a few month in savings comfortably pay down the debt

[Anonymous No.53145235]

Damn. I just want my cheapies. Give me FCX at $15 and i will never come back.

[Anonymous No.53145238]

>>53145079
>the market is forward looking while the fed backwards looking.
and how has looking forward been working for you for the past year, mumu? enjoying getting your boipussy blown out every month by jpow because you refuse to get out the way of his rock-hard market-demolishing cock?

I'll give you this, eventually you'll be right and a bottom will be found. You'll rejoice and brag about how you 'looked forward' to the pivot and bought the real bottom and you'll forget about the two dozen other times you tried to do that this past year and got fucking wiped out.

[Anonymous No.53145240]

[Anonymous No.53145241]

Rycey
Luv
Nexa
Just bought.

[Anonymous No.53145259]

>>53144316
yes unless you buy gold

[Anonymous No.53145262]

holy fuck, natgas, this shit wont stop dumping

at this rate we will probably never see 5$ again

[Anonymous No.53145264]

>>53145137
I think you seem to forget that when all the major automakers were going bankrupt the government bailed them out. I might agree with you if we lived in a truely free market but we don't. The automakers have been deemed too big to fail. TSLA won't get the same bail outs btw, Musk alienated his Democrat supporters.

[Anonymous No.53145266]

>>53145079
>if you literally wait until muh pivot it's already too late and you already missed like 60% of the move up

someone post it

[Anonymous No.53145270]

>>53144721
Gamers nexus on jewtube has an excellent series going over the 40 series issues. You should checkout the videos about the plug issues, it'll make you shake your head.

[Anonymous No.53145283]

>>53145259
>yes unless you buy gold

[Anonymous No.53145309]

>>53145137
>Will they be able to compete with Tesla, in the quality of vehicle produced + features, for the price of a Tesla?
They already have. Have you seen the reviews for the F-150 lightning? Tesla is quickly becoming the low end budget car because of their shit build quality.
>this too will blow over
Elon is becoming more unhinged, not less
>holy shit, Elon really turned Twitter around!
Have you seen the shit he's doing? There's no indication whatsoever that things at Twitter are improving.
>These aren't Tesla's target demographic lol.
Tesla's core demographics are environmental types. There is very little overlap between those and conservatives.

[Anonymous No.53145311]

>>53145238
you get fucked if you don't consider the possibility of a different move than the actual consensus. in fact if everybody and their dog are bearish it's not a good place to be net short the market
I'm literally loading up on high beta stocks while keeping my hedges but sure just repeat the same bullshit you hear on your fav mass media source what can go wrong? ask the natgas trannies who believed in EU freezing to death

[Anonymous No.53145318]

natgas is done lmao, either short for a double or watch is crash and crab between 2-3

told you to short last thread

[Anonymous No.53145323]

>>53145207
Aren’t they an actual bank, and not just a money laundering front or car financing operation?

Kind of think something like Ally might be the next play

[Anonymous No.53145337]

>>53145318
Wake me up when it breaks 2.90

[Anonymous No.53145338]

>>53144316
This time will be different I assure you.

[Anonymous No.53145340]

>>53145264
the thing it's just not even a bailout that they need
for another automakers to compete with Tesla they need
>supply chain logistics for all components
>factories in Asia, Europe, North America dedicated only to EV at scale
to do so would be extremely expensive, requiring the largest capital investments in their company(s) history
it just doesn't make sense for them to invest $50 billion in making "giga" factories for EV production, when they are making money fine on their ICE vehicles, where there will still be demand for ICE for many decades

[Anonymous No.53145349]

>>53145337
if it fails to hold this range, buying at 2.9 aint a safe spot either

[Anonymous No.53145351]

>>53144696
>wash
Stopped reading there juden peterstein

[Anonymous No.53145354]

>nooo the market isn’t doing what I want it do
This is the fed right now

[Anonymous No.53145358]

>>53145349
Told you i'll start the longs at 2.10

[Anonymous No.53145367]

>>53145283
schiff is literally making it to the bank while you tank, because tank dont swim

[Anonymous No.53145373]

>>53145213
>I hear this about every company that has some kind of controversy and it always goes away after a quarter or two
It would go away if Elon backtracked and stopped making political statements on twitter, that's not happening.
All the data suggests that he is going to lose more customers than he is going to gain. Tesla is becoming more of an anti-liberal brand than it is becoming a pro-conservative brand.

[Anonymous No.53145385]

>>53145283

[Anonymous No.53145388]

>>53145354
The market going down is what the fed wants, as active job destruction

[Anonymous No.53145390]

>>53145385
Is that Lyn Alden?

[Anonymous No.53145394]

>>53145388
>active NEET destruction
ftfy

[Anonymous No.53145415]

>>53145394
The fed does not want people working.

[Anonymous No.53145414]

You guys have no idea. I will fuck your shit up.
I'll start with Tesla

[Anonymous No.53145422]

It amazes me how people still haven't pieced together that TSLA is and always has been BB 2.0 where they were first to a huge market (smartphones vs EVs) yet that doesn't ensure long term dominance in the space.

[Anonymous No.53145432]

>>53145309
>F-150 lightning
>$52k to $97k per vehicle
Tesla cybertruck will outcompete at $39.9k
I am not denying that there will be other EV on the road..
only that Tesla will be the dominant EV
it's like arguing to me 7 years ago
>Yeah, well have you seen the new Android??
People will still buy the iPhone.. the iPhone will still be the dominant phone..
>Have you seen the shit he's doing
so far the features implemented:
>view count on tweets
>can link stock charts for tickers
>paid verification
>account reinstatements (especially over covid shit)
all 4 are good changes, with many more to come
he also has turned the company around from imminent bankruptcy to being okay financially
>There's no indication whatsoever that things at Twitter are improving.
you must have you head in the sand then anon, that or you only listen to the propaganda ministry
>ELON BAD!!!111
>Tesla's core demographics are environmental types. There is very little overlap between those and conservatives.
83% of tesla drivers are male
70% are under the age of 34
median household income $85K
You are trying to argue to me that Tesla has now alienated its customer base permanently, that this will never blow over
What I am trying to argue to you is that it literally doesn't matter
Liberals that freak out over Elon on Twitter are not the demographic of Tesla buyers
and even if they were, it would still blow over.. time heals all wounds..

[Anonymous No.53145435]

>>53145422
im invested in blackberry though

[Anonymous No.53145452]

>>53145435

[Anonymous No.53145454]

>>53145435
I meant primarily BB back in 2008 when they were a smartphone producer and $128 a share.

[Anonymous No.53145457]

>>53145422
TSLA is iPhone, not blackberry
it's both a luxury status symbol as well as the first to market
comparing a Tesla to a Blackberry is a joke
it's an iPhone, anon
and iPhone is the most dominant phone in the whole world.. even if you think Apple products are a joke..

[Anonymous No.53145461]

>>53145323
Yes they’re an actual bank and they don’t have crypto on their balance sheet.
But a quarter of their deposits are from crypto companies which is probably all gone at this point. They will crater.

[Anonymous No.53145462]

aren't the new threads made automatically

[Anonymous No.53145465]

>>53145415
>The fed does not want people working.
They want workers to have less leverage over employers. Right now there are worker shortages. That means that workers can demand higher wages and therefore push companies to raise prices. NEET destruction is actually a goal of the Fed. If people are forced to go out and take any job they can find it means that employers don't need to raise wages and therefore don't need to raise prices.

[Anonymous No.53145479]

>>53145432
>cybertruck
It’s the ugliest car I’ve ever seen. I wouldn’t drive it if I was paid to. If you think that piece of crap somehow makes a car company hardly anyone buys from worth 10x more than Ford you’re crazy.

[Anonymous No.53145490]

>>53145465
Why are they using monetary tools to accomplish social policy instead of normal legislation?

[Anonymous No.53145491]

>>53145462
Yes but BreadBot, the thread automaton, isn't working correctly.

[Anonymous No.53145497]

>>53145479
as I've said over 10 times in this thread alone
the stock price is still overvalued, and likely to fall another 30%+
we are not talking about the stock price in this discussion of EV dominance
I am in complete agreement that it is overvalued, and will fall much more
but it still the best EV maker, with great competitive advantage, economies of scale, compared to any other automaker

[Anonymous No.53145501]

>>53145457
>TSLA is iPhone, not blackberry
It's way too early to say that. If AAPL decides to take EVs seriously, I guarantee you they'd make a more popular car than TSLA.

[Anonymous No.53145505]

>>53145462
Normally yes, but it's an add-on extra, and right now no one in /smg/ can afford it

[Anonymous No.53145523]

i'd bake a new thread but i'm eating a meatball sandwich and my hands are all saucy

[Anonymous No.53145534]

new thread

>>53145516
>>53145516
>>53145516

[Anonymous No.53145551]

>>53145367
now adjust your nonsense for inflation :^)

[Anonymous No.53145558]

>>53142586
Opinions on NVDA puts on March?

[Anonymous No.53145580]

>>53144909
What a retard. Don't burn that crap. It'll cause creosote buildup and cause a chimney fire. Don't believe the hype, my neighbor almost lost his house because of that shit.
You should only ever burn hardwoods, oak hickory maple. More BTUs and safer.
>do yourself a favor and call a local tree company or building supply yard and ask for split seasoned oak
>a years worth delivered is ~$250
Source: lived in New England with a wood stove for 22 years, haven't had to clean my chimey in 10 years.

[Anonymous No.53145584]

>>53145551
you can apply this logic to any asset including stocks, gold just dumps less

[Anonymous No.53145596]

>>53145580
how can chimney fires be dangerous if your chimney is stone

[Anonymous No.53145610]

>>53145340
EVs are actually easier then ICE in terms of supply chains, since they use far less parts and require far less workers to make. EVs are super simple machines compared to ICE cars.

[Anonymous No.53145615]

>>53145580
100% wrong, retard. also i've been using duraflames for 20 years and never needed a chimney sweep after all that time

[Anonymous No.53145636]

>>53145610
I am talking about procuring huge amounts of nickel, lithium, rare earth metals, on a scale to the point that you are producing 1 million vehicles a year
The other car companies cannot do this, without spending a ton of money - money they don't have

[Anonymous No.53145653]

>>53145636
damn that's crazy, but what if they used DEBT

[Anonymous No.53145673]

>>53145653
they cannot take on more debt..
please, take the time yourself to go look up all the legacy automakers longterm debt
go google
>toyota long termdebt macrotrends
>ford long termdebt macrotrends
>volkswagen longterm debt macrotrends
then go look up
>tesla longterm debt macrotrends

[Anonymous No.53145681]

>>53145457
Blackberry was a luxury status symbol in its day. It was used primarily by businesses and governments. The iPhone came out later and killed it. iPhone was not a luxury item lmao, ever poor thot has one.

[Anonymous No.53145698]

>>53145432
Tesla will never make the cybertruck. Even if they do, it will fail. It's not a good truck, simple as.
I live in a very EV prevalent area, the audi Etron and lightning have completely replaced the tesla. My local Ford dealer hasn't been able to keep lightnings in stock, even with a $25k markup.
It's simple. People like purpose built tools. If they want a truck, they'll get a real truck. If they want a luxury car, they'll get a real luxury car.
Seriously, the amount of lightnings I see on a daily basis is unreal. I pass a half dozen every morning at the private school drop off.

[Anonymous No.53145706]

>>53145681
>iPhone was not a luxury item lmao
lol what the fuck are you smoking
iPhone is 100% a luxury phone
it is why it is not the dominant phone in places like India, where they cannot afford it
there are memes, helped pushed by Tim Cook, where androids were a meme
>oh, you don't have blue texts.. guess I'm not dating him
became a meme
you are so extremely out of the loop of young people if you don't understand that iPhone is a luxury item, a status item that people want to have

[Anonymous No.53145741]

>>53145615
Retard read your own graphic. UNSEASONED WOOD. Feel your faglog, does it even feel dry? No.
>enjoy your house fire
>hope your homeowners is payed up
My neighbor said the same thing, even when the fire dept. Had to cut a hole in his roof to put the fire out.

[Anonymous No.53145744]

>>53145497
Teslas are not good cars, as in they are poor quality, cheaply built. People are finding that out, the novelty if the cars are wearing off. Their EV market share is quickly diminishing as better EVs are being released.

[Anonymous No.53145767]

>>53145615
Imagine being so retarded you think petroleum products and wood scraps are better than God's gift to man, natural wood heat.
>I bet you prefer a flashlight to real bussy

[Anonymous No.53145859]

>>53145744
You want to know how I know you've never driven a Tesla?
because you're making this post.
ask someone who drives a Tesla if they think the car is shitty.

[Anonymous No.53145980]

>>53145137
>No. Never.

I'm going to remember you said that.
GM, Ford, and to a lesser extent Chrysler-Fiat are all investing heavily in Electric car lines and have the capital to eat a short term loss and make up those gains. The Japanese appear to be waiting for cheaper/more efficient battery tech to actually enter the ring.
Tesla will remain a major name in EVs, but their time being dominant in terms of Market Share is running out. Ford beat their Cybertruck to the punch witu their own full electric truck and GM is going hard in a full platform for multiple lines.

[Anonymous No.53146025]

>>53145490
>tools
They have literally changed the Toolset.

[Anonymous No.53146096]

>NEW
>NEW
>NEW
>>53145516
>>53145516
>>53145516

[Anonymous No.53146102]

>>53145980
We'll see
More important than just whether the other automakers are producing EVs that compete with Tesla in "quality" is whether they can produce the EVs
>at a lower price than Tesla can with a sustainable profit margin
for example, the Ford F-150 lightning runs for $56k starting up to $97k
They will never be able to get a 20% profit margin
I do not see them being able to sustain their lines at a 4% profit margin
and I do not see them investing huge money into the space to increase their economies of scale to improve this very weak margin
Tesla has such a crazy advantage in this regard, that I do not see them being outcompeted, ever

[Anonymous No.53146250]

>>53146102
With continuing oil issues and public opinion shifting with the transition from Gen X and Boomers to Millennials and Gen Z, and Tesla's success proving that the market is rich and there is great demand, most of the big boys are using their existing factories, capital, and distribution chains to cash in. Another anon pointed out how the F-150 lightning is already a major seller in the US, and with the chassis and most internals aside from power train and engine being the same as their existing F-150s, most of their investment costs are just in the electric power system instead of the engine. This on top of the fact that thousands of Ford dealers and distribution lines already exist put them on par with Tesla that has limited dealerships. Add to that GM's aggressive plan to market a variety of their popular name brands with fully electric options (and potentially offering fleets of electric cars for cheap to corporate customers, since the lines to do so already exist), and the days of seeing Tesla with a 90%+ Market share on EVs are over.

Tesla won't die, but they will shrink

[Anonymous No.53146289]

>>53146250
>Tesla won't die, but they will shrink
let's say that they have 90% dominance of the EV market selling 1 million a year with 20% profit margin
compared to 50 million a year with a 20% profit margin, but only 35% market share (comparing it to iPhone market share)
which is better?
I am not denying that their market share % will go down.. but does it really matter, if they are still the 'dominant' vehicle

[Anonymous No.53146358]

>>53146289
We will have to see if they can remain domimant against the giants. I believe they've already lost the Electric Truck market for certain. Hummer is going to be a wild card, but when Luxury brands like Cadillac and Lincoln start rolling out their EV lines, and SUVs like the Escalade and Suburban get their EV counterparts, The Tesla model X and model S will both have severe competition from recognized brands. The Model 3, I think, will remain a staple for a time, but the second Toyota and Honda decide to make the leap and we see Electric Camrys, Corollas and Civics, 3 sales will drop.