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Two decades of censorship but now its authoritarianism? Scumbag

>> No.52911860

>>52911853
That's because he's a pedo faggot, so it makes sense.

>> No.52911866

he's just worried they're actually going after CP on twitter now

>> No.52911898

>>52911853
I'm surprised people still respect this idiots opinions on anything. He's pretty much a WEF propaganda shill at this point.

>> No.52911909

>>52911860
>>52911866
Is he still involved with the company or was he just the founder?

>> No.52911920

its esg
he has to social virtue signal to appease blackrock or eth won't be allowed institutional investment

>> No.52911924
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>> No.52911938

>>52911853
how can these people live with their own hypocrisy? crazy

>> No.52911974
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>>52911909
>the company
the ethereum company?

>> No.52912296

>>52911974
Yes

>> No.52912300

>>52911924
Creep

>> No.52912331

>>52911938
it is called psychopathic personality - they can function like a normal healthy individual, are capable of rational thought and are aware of consequences of their actions for themselves and others, they just lack any sort of empathy. In short, they just don't care.

>> No.52912352

>>52911853
Vitalik is an unironic leftist, it's full of left wing developers in crypto.

>> No.52912492

>>52911853
enable bat rewards

>> No.52912524

>>52911853
The censorship on Twitter is a lot more arbitrary and irrational now. The only people not being censored are child sex traffickers, literal neonazis and the like. It's all spiraling down the tubes in record time.

>> No.52912531

>>52911853
Disgusting hypocrisy, desu.

>> No.52912533

>>52911866
>they're actually going after CP
They aren't, though. The incidence of CP on Twitter has exploded since Musk took over. Sick shit.

>> No.52912556

>>52912524
>arbitrary
Unlike before, when twitter just banned non-leftists for triggering them, now you get banned for breaking the rules. You're completely wrong.
>irrational
Idiot.
>literal neonazis
Not liking open borders or communism isn't nazism, re-ddit.

>> No.52912584

>>52912492
Nah

>> No.52912589

>>52912524
Lmaooooo oh rly

>> No.52912598

>>52912556
That's a load of nonsense. Elon is now banning journalists for doing their jobs. Meanwhile sick pedos have free rein.

>> No.52912600

>>52912531
Libs gonna lib

>> No.52912607

>>52912598
Lmaooooo oh rly


Tell us more lmaooooo

>> No.52912621

>>52912589
>>52912600
>>52912607
Not an argument. You have nothing to say since Elon's behavior is so clearly indefensible.

>> No.52912632

>>52912598
Do you really expect us to feel sorry for american journalists? They aren't even human.

>> No.52912638

>>52912533
Source? A few weeks ago it was trending that the biggest CP sharing hashtag on Twitter finally got axed. Lots of boomers outraged because Twitter didn't do it before Musk took over

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>>52911909
not your nodes, not your company

>> No.52912680

>>52911853
Well frankly there is a difference between banning someone who has incredible power and is convincing millions of people of things which both aren’t true and are insanely damaging to our entire species and arbitrarily banning people because you don’t like them, so he has a point.

>in b4 Trumpcucks make the assumption they’d not brainwashed

You are, and running to daddy’s side doesn’t help you try to disprove that.

>> No.52912694

>>52912598
Journalists haven't been doing their jobs for decades. The very few that do end up committing suicide with two shots to the back of the head at one point or another.

>> No.52912699

>>52912632
Banning journalism is always the first step in the slide to totalitarianism.

>> No.52912705

>>52912680
you really should tone down the hysterical hyperbole, it's extremely dangerous to our democracy

>> No.52912713
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52912713

>>52911853
https://youtu.be/eJK1gLHbOxA?t=1136
https://youtu.be/52dVfhgt_T4?t=694

>> No.52912722

>>52912621
What makes you think I am interested in forming an argument? I don't have the energy to argue with China's paid fifty cent online squad.

>> No.52912724

>>52912699
what journalism? what journalists? has anyone even seen a real journalist in the last 20 years?

the press has been fighting hard against free speech for years. its almost like we have to choose between freedom of the press or freedom of speech and we can't have both. because the press wants the monopoly and speech and they've been doing everything they can to get it.

fuck "journalists"

>> No.52912732

>>52912638
Ageist detected

>> No.52912740

>>52912724
>the monopoly and speech
monopoly on speech i mean

>> No.52912742

>>52912694
>>52912724
The journalists were banned for covering a story, dumbshits.

>> No.52912745

>>52912680
Is this supposed to somehow make sense ...lmao get a better translator or bot program

>> No.52912755

>>52912694
Yep. They're comfort propagandists.

>> No.52912767

>>52912742
>>52912724
They're paid propagandists for Communists.

>> No.52912771

>>52911853
If your version of "conservatism" consists of blatant misinformation and hate speech, you got bigger problems than twitter lol.

>> No.52912776

>>52912742
there are no journalists, only globohomo corporate propaganda outlets peddling manipulative brainwashing. so-called journalists have controlled the flow of information for their corporate piggy masters in a classic game of late stage capitalism and we're all tired of it.

those news stories included a link to a website to allow people to track elons jet. instead of just writing about it they wanted to include the link to website and thats what got them banned. because elon believes the more people tracking his jets the greater the risk to himself and his family.

what did the left say when people were getting banned left and right for legal free speech back when it was the woke being protected? they said "private company can do what it wants"

>> No.52912777

>>52912767
>communism is when rich people pay you to promote their products
sure thing retard

>> No.52912786

>>52912742
How about you cover my cock faggot?

>> No.52912789

>>52912776
It's literally public information, numbnuts. Journalists should obviously not be afraid to report on public information.

>> No.52912795

>>52912777
communism is a scam just like capitalism
its just the powerful consolidating their power through one system or another

>> No.52912797

>>52912771
Lmaooooo oh rly


Tell us more lmaooooo

>> No.52912801

>>52912776
stopped reading when I read "late stage capitalism"...why are Commies on a business board lmao

>> No.52912802

>>52911853
>that unmedicated schizophrenic phoneposter who relentlessly posts brave browser screenshots of political nonsense on /biz/
hello faggot, i see you.

>> No.52912806

>>52912777
Lmaooooo oh rly


Tell us more lmaooooo>>52912795
>>52912795

>> No.52912808

>>52912797
Your hateful outlook is not brand-safe, smoothbrain. Advertisers don't want their messages appearing next to the toxic waste you spew. It's not good for business. Blame capitalism.

>> No.52912817

>>52912802
And?

>> No.52912818

>>52912789
they can report on it, and interested parties can do their own research and track down the link to the website themselves. serving elons location to everyone on a silver platter results in a greater number of people tracking him and potentially harassing him or worse. so he banned them from twitter to lower their reach and reduce the number of woke nutjobs who might try to jump him or his family when he gets off his plane. this is hardly the brutal assault on free speech your portray it as.

>> No.52912824

>>52912808
Lmaooooo oh rly


Tell us more lmaooooo

>> No.52912829

>>52911853
>leftwing faggot pedo scam artist commie hates authoritarianism

lmoa, lol even

>> No.52912831

>>52912801
>>52912795
i hate communism and capitalism
i have right and left leaning views
i'm not on blue team or red team

not right wing, not left wing, but delta wing, maximum lift, above it all

>> No.52912836

>>52912818
>serving elons location to everyone on a silver platter results in a greater number of people tracking him and potentially harassing him or worse.
That's what happens when you're a celebrity, jackass. No one is forcing him to fly a private jet everywhere. When people see him, they have a right to say that they see him. It's a little something called free speech.

>> No.52912841

>>52912818

“Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family,” Musk wrote.

>> No.52912844

>>52912806
You quoted the second poster twice, butterfingers.

>> No.52912849

>>52912831
Lmaooooo oh rly


Tell us more lmaooooo

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>>52912836
Yes, you care so much about free speech now. We know.

>> No.52912863

>>52912841
Absolutely terrifying statement. People who report the truth are now regarded as "supporting harm". If you don't feel sick to your stomach after reading that, you're clearly a hater of freedom.

>> No.52912868

>>52912836
its an app that tracks his location at all times. sure it can exist legally. and journalists can write about it i guess. but most people wont bother to track it down. but when you go out of your way to make it as easy as possible to track someone that someone being tracked might legally take his private business and ban you.
where were you oh staunch defender of free speech when everyone else was getting banned for actual speech? you were saying "its his private company he can do what he wants". well at least elons not pushing his own political agendas with the bannings, he's just trying to reduce the number of nutjobs who might jump him when he gets off his plane

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>>52912863
Yes, you care so much about free speech now. We know.

>> No.52912880

>>52912862
>>52912872
Yes, and you demonstrably do not.

>> No.52912886

>>52912862
Not a counter argument, just being dismissive. Not the best comeback anon.

>> No.52912903

>>52912880
you were fine with it when the people being banned where people you didn't agree with.

but now that people are getting banned for sharing a link to an app that tracks elons location. suddenly you're mad, because it was "journalists" getting banned.

frankly, journalism is such a massively corrupt institutions, that much like democracy, its not serving us anymore and hasn't in a long time.

our democracy is a scam and a puppet show, and journalists are corporate whores fighting for a monopoly on speech and trying to ban everyone they disagree with. and some of those whores got banned, for directing people to track elons plane. who the fuck cares

>> No.52912948

>>52912863
>people who report the truth
what truth? elons location to help stalkers block his car and climb on his hood to scare his kids?

if he bans people for posting the link to the app that tracks his plane then fewer people will see the link and then stalk him and put his family in danger.

you want him to just let people rally themselves to assault him in public using his own platform? this is free speech to you?

>> No.52912949

>>52912880
Lmaooooo oh rly


Tell us more lmaooooo

>> No.52912960

>>52912886
What makes you think I am interested in forming an argument? I don't have the energy to argue with China's paid fifty cent online squad.

>> No.52912967

>>52912948
Stop. Common sense does not belong here.

>> No.52912990

Are you on some kind of stimulant? What the fuck are these inane triple post oneliners
>lmaooooo

>> No.52913000

>>52911924
Does this retard not understand that children are harmed/killed in the production of such content? Evil demonic human being.

>> No.52913004

>>52912990
Some people (you) deserve a copy and paste response.

>> No.52913016

>>52913000
If its real, he should get death penalty.

>> No.52913030

>>52912949
>>52912960
>>52912967
You type like a bot.

>> No.52913035

>>52913000
his autistic argument, to reluctantly play devils advocate for a moment. would be that he's talking about simple possession, which doesn't necessarily imply purchasing, supporting, or contributing to the production. obviously he shouldn't have said anything that could be construed as support for cp since we don't want to normalize it in any way since that would lead to increased production of the evil. we understand that. but he's an autistic retard at best and a wef puppet at worse

>> No.52913038

>>52913030
Don't be botphobic.

>> No.52913045

>>52913004
Why would you post this much in a thread only to stifle any discussion by dismissing anything and everything with your copy paste responses? You're better off just calling people niggers on Xbox live

>> No.52913046

>>52912777
Unironically, yes.

>> No.52913048

>>52913000
Life insurance should also be banned since it incentivizes murder.

>> No.52913049

>>52913035
libs can create "arguments" to justify anything

>> No.52913054

>>52912598
>Elon is now banning journalists for doing their jobs.
You mean doxxing his family, npc.

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>>52913046
>Unironically, yes.

>> No.52913061

>>52913045
To inform people on my side.

>> No.52913077

>>52913054
It's public information, schizo. Get a grip.

>> No.52913078

>>52913054
public figureheads and public servants should be geo-located 24/7 to hold them accountable for their actions.

>> No.52913119

>>52913077
and nobodys getting arrested for it. they're just getting banned on twitter since this public information being widely distributed increases the risk of someone killing his children. so he does what he can to protect them, which means banning whore journalists who couldn't help themselves and had to post the link to help more woke nutjobs stalk his plane.

this is nowhere even near the ballpark of the bans on actual free speech that were happening on twitter under previous ownership, but you cheered all that on. its only when your protected holy class of global megacorp "journalists" get banned for making it easier to stalk a person irl that you get upset. its fucking weird

>> No.52913148

>>52913119
You're making a lot of false assumptions.

>> No.52913149

>>52912789
So is doxxing ppl and yet you get banned for it all over the internet.

>> No.52913151

>>52913148
such as?

>> No.52913194

>>52913061
You're 30 posts in and didn't inform shit.
>yes
>creep
>nah
>lmaooooo oh rly
>Libs gonna lib
>Lmaooooo oh rly
>What makes you think I am interested in forming an argument? I don't have the energy to argue with China's paid fifty cent online squad.
>Ageist detected
And more of this shit. Real informative, clown.

>> No.52913198

>>52913149
yeah but elons not woke enough so he should be doxxed so stalkers can block his car, jump on his hood, and "hold him accountable" for not being woke enough. and elon had the nerve to ban JoUrNaLiStS who are a special and protected class of people since they're all owned and operated by world economic forum affiliated corporate media monopolies who enforces the woke propaganda on the masses.

what elon did was double plus ungood and he should submit himself to woke justice and allow everyone to doxx him on twitter

>> No.52913201

>>52913119
When are you going to get that they are evil?

>> No.52913210

>>52913149
"Doxxing" isn't even a real word, zoomer. Telephone books have always existed.

>> No.52913213

>>52913194
I'm the OP who triggered you 10k replies in the first place. Don't like it? Make your own Commie thread then pay some bots to make a bunch of replies.

>> No.52913218

>>52913201
the argument is for the benefit of the audience, i'm fully aware that the person i'm arguing with has no interest in rational debate and is simply an npc parroting the evil words of manipulative megacorporate journos

>> No.52913224

>>52913151
Not how it works. Instead of making random assumptions with no concern for truth value, learn to provide evidence to support your contentions. That way, a rational discourse can be had.

>> No.52913225

>>52913210
I'm almost 40 you fucking nigger.

>> No.52913232

>>52913225
Then why hasn't your acne cleared up?

>> No.52913234

>>52913218
Agree 100%

>> No.52913236

>>52913060
You are refusing to acknowledge the modern world you live in.

>> No.52913237

>>52913224
so basically you can't find any examples of assumptions i've made. or you already know i'm right and you're just trying to argue in bad faith. and this response of yours is just some fucking tactic rather then actual argument.

>> No.52913239
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>>52912524
Now Elon Musk snorts a line of coke, changes the rules overnight, and starts immediately handing out permabans. Makes polls and deletes them when he doesn't like the results.

He's actually more unstable and retarded than the Adderall snorting leftists that were running it! Hilarious!

>> No.52913246

>>52913213
>10k replies
Wow, the Walter Mitty of /biz/ is going all out.

>> No.52913258

>>52913246
Sweet burn. Thanks for all the attention. I am pretty lonely.

>> No.52913264

>>52913237
>so basically you can't find any examples of assumptions i've made
Almost every statement you have made is an false assumption that you never even attempted to support with evidence. Learn how to engage rationally.

>> No.52913271

>>52913236
Words still have meanings, smoothbrain. You can't just redefine 'communism' as capitalism and expect to make sense.

>> No.52913273

>>52913239
handing out permabans for doxxing him after a stalker jumped on the hood of his car and scared his kid. seems pretty reasonable. don't doxx elon don't get banned by elon simple as. massive improvement over the californian mentality woke delusionals who banned everyone they didn't agree with. far better then banning everyone who doesn't toe the line of the blackrock esg megacorporate late stage capitalism agenda

>> No.52913275

>>52913078
This.
Why is everything kept in secrecy anyways?
Politics should be open source.

>> No.52913283

>>52913264
>Almost every statement you have made is an false assumption
such as? can you name one? should be easy, just copy and paste something i said and declare it as a false assumption. then the debate can resume in good faith. but you can't, because you know i'm right

>> No.52913286

>>52913271
That's exactly what has been done. I'm not denying that its a hellscape - you are.

>> No.52913306

>>52913273
He gave it back.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/musk-reinstates-suspended-journalists-twitter-poll-rcna62227

>> No.52913309

>>52913283
See: >>52913119
The fact that you can't distinguish assumptions from evidence-based arguments and need someone else to do it for you is rather disturbing.

>> No.52913327

>>52913286
I'm not interested in letting them win that easily.

>> No.52913339

>>52913327
Really? You are a foot soldier for the capitalist status quo. All they gotta do is put a rainbow flag on it and call it communism to get you to sign up. Very sad.

>> No.52913340

>>52913306
and in doing so set forth a dangerous precedent where anyones location irl can be shared at any time. cool. maybe that was his plane all along. now we can track the locations in real time of anyone we want and organize around that on twitter for easy stalking and harassment. of course this benefits the woke more then the sane since they're the only ones violent and delusional enough to track people down and commit violence since they think they're in ww2 fighting literally hitler

>> No.52913345

>>52913339
Holy hell, imagine being this delusional.

>> No.52913355

>>52913309
you still cant provide a single example of a false assumption i've made. and are dodging all demands that you do so. everyone can see that

>> No.52913365

>>52913355
You got bigger problems if you can't distinguish assumptions from evidence grounded conclusions.

>> No.52913366

>>52913000
>demonic
sorry, but the jewish sky god and the jewish ground god are not real

>> No.52913369

>>52913365
you still cant provide a single example of a false assumption i've made

>> No.52913377

>>52913369
I literally posted a link, brainlet.

>> No.52913386

>>52913377
you still cant provide a single example of a false assumption i've made

>> No.52913390

>>52913386
Yes, I did.

>> No.52913409

>>52913390

greentext a single assumption from any of my posts that you believe to be false.

what you did was merely link to one of my longer posts where i'm saying many things.

you still haven't provided an example of a single specific statement that believe is a false assumption. because you can't. because i'm right

>> No.52913418

>>52913409
See: >>52913119
Greentext it yourself.

>> No.52913428

>>52913418


it's amazing you people think your tactics work here. trying to weasel out of shit like you think you're dealing with the kind of dumb fuck normies who would be unable to call you out on it.

the same tired debate tactics, the same arguing in bad faith. the same attitude. you people are of the same mind. i've been arguing and debating people like you for years. it's like a hive mind of duplicity and inversion

>> No.52913479

>>52913428
You seem literally incapable of rational discourse. You don't seem to grasp what it even is. Throwing around random assumptions is not rational discourse. No, it's not on me to correct all your assumptions. It's on you to stop making them. Earlier you wrote:

>this public information being widely distributed increases the risk of someone killing his children

It's not my job to verify or falsify that claim. It's on you to support it with evidence. It's easy to talk out your ass, but that's not how rational inquiry takes place.

>> No.52913527

>>52913479
FINALLY
after much much begging, you are finally willing to provide me with a single example of something i said which you believe to be a false claim.

and that's the best you can do?
my "false assumption" is that making it easier to doxx his location in real time increases the risk of someone killing his children.

how that is even a false assumption in your mind i can't even imagine. but thats the best you could do huh. wow.

you want evidence?
you want a reuters fact check on how making it easier and more accessible to track your location in real time increases risks?
fucking delusional, use some basic fucking reasoning.

all the "random assumptions" i'm "throwing around" and thats the best you can come up with.

you lose, you lost. i won

>> No.52913600

>>52913527
Like a typical brainlet, you seem hung up on the truth or falsity of the claim rather than the more serious methodological issue of its being an unsupported assumption.

>how that is even a false assumption in your mind i can't even imagine.
Did you provide a shred of evidence to support your claim? No? Then it is an assumption.

>thats the best you can come up with
Again showing that you are utterly incapable of logical reasoning. You spent all thread begging for a "single example" of an assumption you made and now throw a hissy fit when you are provided with one. The fact is, every major statement you have made is an unsupported assumption. That's why it is impossible to engage with your posts in a rational manner. Learn how to gather evidence and draw conclusions on that basis instead of spewing out irrational gibberish.

>> No.52913627

>>52913271
The left have been redefining definitions for two years straight, where were you then?

>> No.52913630

>>52913627
You mean your deranged redefinition of "the left"?

>> No.52913642

>>52913627
No point in conversing with automatons like him - a complete product of the System. Everything working as intended.

>> No.52913646

>>52913600
So I can just post your name, social security number, cc number (plus security code) and home address online and it’s fine because because it doesn’t increase the risk of someone stealing your identity, right?
Fucking moron

>> No.52913652

>>52913600
so you're saying that increasing the number of people who can see your location at all times doesn't increase any risk?

how absurd. the more people tracking him, and the easier it is to track him, the more likely he is to get assaulted by someone tracking him. i mean obviously. throw all the debate tactic semantics you want at it, i'm clearly right

>> No.52913667

>>52913646
That's not even public information, let alone air traffic geolocation data. Stick to the topic on hand.

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52913675

if you don't like it, make your own twitter

>> No.52913678

>1000 people tracking your location in real time
vs
>100,000 people tracking your location in real time
= the exact same amount of risk?

lol how do you even. you know your argument is full of shit but you're arguing in bad faith trying to trip people up on your semantics. its not working

>> No.52913692

>>52913667
The logic is the same. It’s really a shame you don’t have the brain cells necessary to see it

>> No.52913703

>>52913652
>so you're saying that increasing the number of people who can see your location at all times doesn't increase any risk?
Flight data doesn't do that, first of all. If your argument is that flight data does increase assault risk, you will need to provide empirical evidence. You can't just assume it must be true. What percentage of assaults can be attributed to flight data awareness? Do the work.

>> No.52913711

>>52911853
>falling for typical ''one step back,two step forwards'' tactic from a WEF plant
You can smell the dogetards in this thread.

>> No.52913726

>>52913692
>The logic is the same.
No, it isn't. A completely different different set of empirical observations would be necessary to corroborate or refute the thesis at hand relative to the thesis in your contrived example.

>> No.52913752

>>52913703
i need to provide empirical evidence that making it easier to track someones location, and allowing more people to track that location, increases risk to the person being tracked. you know thats absurd.

you want a basic obvious line of reasoning to be cast aside as "false assumption" because i didn't include a peer reviewed statistical data survey proving that the easier it is to stalk a person the greater the risk to that person.

you know thats absurd, you know it full well. this is just your slimy bad faith debate tactic.

>> No.52913758

>>52913366
>yhwh isnt real
Explain how abrahamic relgions have been able to cause so much wanton destruction without a metaphysical entity powering them?

>> No.52913760

>>52913703
>Do the work
What format would you like it in? My options are “peer-reviewed study,” “AP fact check,” and my personal favorite “basic deductive logic that has been known about for over two thousand years.” I like the last option, mainly because it’s something I can use to determine what’s true even when The Party doesn’t give an official opinion for me to mindlessly repeat

>> No.52913791

>>52911924
This is the downside of being on the spectrum. His friend Virgil Griffith is in jail rn because he helped north korea in mining crypto

>> No.52913798

>>52913752
>i need to provide empirical evidence that making it easier to track someones location, and allowing more people to track that location, increases risk to the person being tracked. you know thats absurd.
And yet, you can't seem to do it. Not even on an anecdotal level, let alone to a rigorous scientific standard. Many "theories" sound reasonable on paper but fail to be corroborated in real life. Empirical reality is the only test.

>> No.52913800

>>52913035
Context also matters
He was trying to "expose the hypocrisy" of bitcoin supporters like it was some college debate. I had to argue in favor of socialism in an economics course, which has done more harm than pedos and illegal drugs combined.
I don't think he's a pedo, but I do dislike some of his leftist beliefs. However, that doesn't prevent me from respecting the work he's done for crypto.

>> No.52913802

>>52913758
destruction is subjective and relative
as are all things

>> No.52913806

>>52913760
if you can't prove it using one of his chosen sources then it's false no matter how straightforward and obviously reasonable it is. that way he's always right and never wrong the official opinion of The Party is the only truth.

>> No.52913820

>>52913630
answer the question nigger

>> No.52913831

>>52913758
Tricking goyim into not only doing your bidding but also simultaneously denying the very Deity they've been tricked into serving is one of life's greatest pleasures.

>> No.52913834

>>52913806
>his chosen sources
Another false assumption. I never claimed to have "chosen sources".

>> No.52913843

>>52913820
Your assumption is straightforwardly false.

>> No.52913857

>>52913834
You’ve asked us to “Do the work” in proving our assertion. You have also discarded logical deduction as a valid form of proof. Therefore you have some source you have decided is more important than logic. Tell me what it is

>> No.52913867

>>52913843
And my cock is straightforwardly in your mother

>> No.52913866

>>52913834
you didn't have to, we know what you meant. you need a reuters fact check or a "peer reviewed" study from a "reputable journal" to prove that grass is green or me saying the grass is green is a false assumption.

its a debate tactic. its not arguing in good faith. you know what you're doing and i don't know how you live with yourself especially when you're so bad at it.

>> No.52913888

>>52913857
Empirical conclusions cannot be drawn from purely deductive premises. That's elementary logic. Empirical conclusions can only be corroborated via observable evidence. You haven't provided any, in any format.

>> No.52913895

>>52913857
and he thinks we're all too dumb to see through his obvious and weak attempts at manipulating and weasel wording his way through a debate we already know he knows he lost

>> No.52913913

>>52913866
Yet more false assumptions. I never even mentioned "Reuters" or "peer review" so I can't have imposed any such constraints on the inquiry.

In any case, ready to move on to your second sentence?

>so he does what he can to protect them, which means banning whore journalists who couldn't help themselves and had to post the link to help more woke nutjobs stalk his plane.

You want to try this time, or do you still need the training wheels?

>> No.52913950

>>52913339
Demoralization tactic from Communist China.

>> No.52913953

>>52913831
yea but it didnt come naturally. Many human sacrifices were made to appease the death god

>> No.52913961

>>52913895
>weasel wording
It's called logic, kiddo. Don't make allegations that you don't have the evidence to support. Pretty simple. If you regard that as a "tactic" rather than a necessary methodological practice, you are doing it wrong.

>> No.52913975

>>52913953
And many more to come.

>> No.52914027

>>52913913
you don't have to mention it, because what else could you mean? you want me to provide "empirical proof" that the more people tracking your location in real time the greater the odds one of those trackers will assault you? you know there's no proof for that, you also know its true. you know there is no study done on something as basic and obvious as that, no real way to run such a study and no need to, yet you demand some kind of evidence that fits your criteria or its a "false assumption"

you know thats stupid, you're just running some fucking tactic right now and arguing in bad faith because it lets you use weasel words to get out of having to admit you're wrong. well all see it, you're not very clever.

on to my second sentence then. since i won the argument around the first sentence that you said was a false assumption, whether you admit it or not.

>so he does what he can to protect them, which means banning whore journalists who couldn't help themselves and had to post the link to help more woke nutjobs stalk his plane.
more people tracking you means more risk to you that one of those trackers might assault you, basic and obvious truth.
then reducing the number of people tracking you will reduce the risk to you. so he's by reducing the number of people tracking him by making himself harder to track, he's reducing his risk of being assaulted. you want me to provide a statistical analysis on how having more potential stalkers means more potential risk.
but because im not backing up my "sky is blue" argument of deductive reasoning using a statistical survey analysis or what the fuck ever then you get to declare it a "false assumption" thats the game you're playing, and everyone know you're playing this game and thats all it is.

>> No.52914125

>>52914027
>the more people tracking your location in real time
Have to stop you there. That's not what flight data is. It only tracks planes, not the movements of individuals when they are not in one.

>you know there's no proof for that, you also know its true.
No, I don't. In fact, my guess is that it is completely false. I would bet that 0% of assaults in 2022 were the result of someone knowing flight data. But again, it's not about anyone's intuitions, which differ subjectively. The final judge is observation, no exceptions.

>> No.52914135

>>52913888
>Empirical conclusions can only be corroborated via observable evidence
do you have observable evidence of that? if not then its a false assumption.

>Many "theories" sound reasonable on paper but fail to be corroborated in real life
another false assumption unless you care to provide empirical evidence

>>52913210
>Telephone books have always existed.
another false assumption. provide the empirical evidence for the existence of these "telephone books" and that theyve "always existed"

>>52913048
>Life insurance should also be banned since it incentivizes murder.
do you have any empirical evidence of this? have you run the numbers? show the me stats and your source on those stats and do the math or im declaring it a false assumption

>>52912863
>People who report the truth are now regarded as "supporting harm".
yet another false assumption without empirical evidence. provide the evidence now or i declare you to be tossing around false assumptions

>>52912836
>No one is forcing him to fly a private jet everywhere
another false assumption. provide empirical evidence that he doesn't have to use a private jet

>>52912808
>Advertisers don't want their messages appearing next to the toxic waste you spew. It's not good for business
my my another false assumption without empirical evidence

i could go on, everything you say is a "false assumption" by your own stated criteria of empirical evidence. and two can play at this game since that's all it is

>> No.52914205

>>52914125
>uhh acktually it merely tracks the plane he's on it doesn't track him
huh?

if you want to do harm to elon, then first you must track him down. the easier it is to track him down, the easier it is to assault him. the more people tracking him, the higher the odds of assault. and no, i don't have to provide "empirical evidence" for this.

>I would bet that 0% of assaults in 2022 were the result of someone knowing flight data
don't bet on it, provide the empirical data. provide the empircal data that making it easier to track a persons location (even if that location is on a plane) doesn't make it easier to assault him.

that nutjob that blocked elons car, and jumped on his hood. as he was leaving the airport. i cant prove that nutjob was tracking elons plane. but doesn't it seem possible? wouldn't assaulting him be easier if you know what city he was in and when he was in the airport?

come on now

>> No.52914214

>>52914135
Just called in sick so I can gather these evidentiary documents and datasets for you. While I'm working on those, how's it going with your flight data assault theory? Make any headway?

>> No.52914248

>>52914205
>the easier it is to track him down, the easier it is to assault him
That's like saying that if there's a grain of sand I'm thinking of on a beach somewhere, then knowing that the beach is in California makes it easier to find. Sure, but the probability is still indistinguishable from zero.

>> No.52914283

>>52914248
oh ho, so you admit, it does make him easier to find.
>but the probability is still indistinguishable from zero.
really? knowing the airport he's arriving in, when he arrives, and thats a zero chance of tracking him? even when there are potentially many people watching that airport?

>> No.52914467

lets say elon is on his jet, and posit two scenarios. i want you to tell me which scenario is riskier to elon

>scenario 1
a large mass of people, using no effort, track and discuss the movement of elons private jet openly. the link to the tracker is promoted across mainstream media. and discussion is open about where is he headed. since hundreds of thousands are watching there are some people living nearby to the airport the tracker shows elons jet to be landing at. they coordinate their efforts and try to send people to watch the airport irl, easy enough to do, since so many are tracking so easily. said tracking promoted in media to massive audiences amplified by twitter. someone sees elon and posts to the community tracking elon so everyone can see where he is. perhaps there is someone willing to "make elon accountable" who now knows where elon is thanks to the rigorous tracking effort. perhaps that someone is radicalized to violence under the belief that he is stopping space hitler.

>scenario 2
a much smaller mass of people, using some effort, track and discuss the movement of elons private jet. much fewer people then in scenario one since they're not able to distribute and retweet any links to the tracker using journos on twitter. the increased barrier to entry to elon tracking, though minor, dissuades many casuals from joining in. fewer people watching, fewer people talking about, fewer people organizing around the airport waiting to make a report. and fewer nutjobs lingering around waiting for the location data to be crowd sourced to them.

which scenario is riskier to elon?

>> No.52914488

>>52914283
>so you admit, it does make him easier to find
Of course it makes him easier to find in certain circumstances. The point is that this does not necessarily result in more assaults than would otherwise occur. After all, most of the time these days he's known to be at the Twitter headquarters. His security detail is likely a greater impediment to assault than the lack of locational knowledge.

>> No.52914507

>>52914467
when considering your options keep in mind he has already been stalked and attacked recently. with a car blocking him and someone jumping his hood while his kid was in the car. making elon understandably jumpy. what should elon do? allow scenario one unchecked? or bring in scenario two by banning people on twitter who make it too easy to doxx his location.

elon chose option three, he put it to a vote. and the people voted to make it easier to track him, making scenario one the more likely.

>> No.52914526

>>52914488
more people able to track him more easily and crowdsouring their efforts, makes it easier to track him, making it easier to track him, makes it easier to assault him. basic shit

>> No.52914543

>>52914526
That's all theory. There is no data to support your hypothesis, so no justification to abolish free speech and civil liberties.

>> No.52914576

>>52914543
it's all theory that more people tracking him is more risky then less people tracking him?

>abolish free speech and civil liberties
he's just banning you if you doxx his location when hes on a plane. thats it

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>>52911853
Twitter is collapsing and ethereum is an unregistered security. All you need to know is short the garbage simple as.

>> No.52914592

>>52914248
You are getting destroyed you retard. This is embarrassing for you and your employer. Also the fact you're a wagie and missed retiring from crypto means your shit opinions are also discarded.

>> No.52914598

if there's no empirical data to prove that wiping my ass front to back is better then i might as well wipe back to front. i need to see statistical evidence from sources i deem reputable that front to back wiping is healthier and cleaner or its just a false assumption that we should wipe front to back

>> No.52914601

i think you should enable bat

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>>52914592

>> No.52914637

>>52914598
Many of us prefer not to get shit on our balls.

>> No.52914651

>>52914467
>>52914283
>>52914205
>>52914135
Take your meds

>> No.52914653

>>52914637
do you have any empirical evidence that wiping back to front increases the shit that gets on your balls? show your math and statistics or you're making a false assumption. deductive reasoning isn't allowed, you need to provide statistics and empirical evidence or front to back wiping is just a false assumption

>> No.52914664

>>52911853
vitalik is a russian cp pedo fiend. of course he would be angry and scared lol

>> No.52914668

>>52914653
>do you have any empirical evidence that wiping back to front increases the shit that gets on your balls?
Sure, post your mailing address.

>> No.52914705

>>52911853
they are such clowns

>> No.52914729

>>52914488
Why dont you post your adress, it would not necessarily result in more assaults.

>> No.52914738

>>52914214
MUH IMPEERICAL DAYTUH
God forbid he learns about the replication crisis.
>Inb4 muh replication crisis

>> No.52914744

>>52914738
>t. literal retard

>> No.52914752

>>52914729
Before he evades by claiming it’s not public, it is if he’s registered to vote

>> No.52914765

>>52914752
Every adress is public, retard.

>> No.52914774

>>52914744
Because I'm agreeing with you?
Fucking monkey.

>> No.52914776

>>52914729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S02BHmWPZNs

>> No.52914800

>>52912524
This is literally the opposite of reality.

>> No.52914807

>>52913119
baste explainer, have a (you)

>> No.52914893

>>52912808
Advertisers don’t care. They think we care. When it turns out we don’t, they won’t.

>> No.52914920

Elon banned journalist who criticized him. It had NOTHING to do with his stupid plane being Doxxed. His plane along with many other celebrities have been Doxxed for YEARS. WHEN you are right winged sheep cunt with 2 brain cells, you believe whatever your right winged hero cult supreme leader tells you. Elon is a Fucking hypocrite and so are all you other assholes raging about free speech but ok with banning speech you don't agree with.

>> No.52914924

>>52912836
> It's a little something called free speech
Wonderful! Can I count you with us on team “free speech absolutism” or will you be back to dismissing free speech as soon as someone says something you disagree with?

>> No.52914935

This thread is so gay and tiresome. If you really can’t tell that the only authoritarian threat to humanity and thus planet earth is from the Globohomo (global homogeneity) Left then you’re a coward or retarded or most likely both.

It really blows my mind sometimes that when I look around me, at even smart people, that conformity and comfort seeking seem to be most peoples dominant drives

>> No.52914957

>>52914935
>Globohomo
>Left
Pick one, smoothbrain.

>> No.52914973

The only threat to humanity is you brain washed Neo fascist racist Losers that have to resort to posting on 4chan because you are a degenerate that cannot function in normal society.

>> No.52915004

>>52912886
Nobody believes you are arguing in good faith. The left had better get used to beng dismissed, because you have lost all credibility over this. First you betray your historical roots (the left were the champions of free speech when they were not the establishment) by abandoning every pretense of advocating free speech, trigger happily banning anyone who disagrees with you. Then, when the table turns and you are getting banned, suddenly free speech is very important. It’s so dishonest, so cowardly, so completely void of principle and so disgustingly opportunistic, there is no way for people who have seen you do this to get past it. You can stop talking because nobody will listen.

>> No.52915012

>>52914920
>Elon banned journalist who criticized him. It had NOTHING to do with his stupid plane being Doxxed.

did those "journalists" post the link to his flight tracker or not?

>> No.52915019

>>52914893
they know we don't care, and that those who do care would get over it over time (if it werent for corporate media and news inciting hatred)

it's about esg. advertisers don't want to get in trouble with the large asset managers like blackrock. there's a social credit score for corporations which lets big business in the world be controlled.

the control comes across as being for "environmental and social governance issues" but of course that's just part of it. that's pushing the globohomo agenda. using their trillions of dollars in investments in every major corporation worldwide as something they can threaten to take away or endow on competitors, pick winners and losers.

if they don't like a corporation, then they say it failed the vague esg criteria, bad social credit score for that corporation. now blackrock pulls out, other blackrock cucked institutions pull their funds and support out of that corporation.

so everyones on best behavior cucking themselves and virtue signaling to blackrock that they're down with the esg that they're good guys supporting the agenda.

>> No.52915065

>>52915019
and this is why capitalism has failed
you can call it crony capitalism or whatever you like but what safeguards were in place to stop this grasp of control and centralization of power? how could the free market enforce itself, fight back, make a comeback against it. if it can't then capitalism is just capitalism, it's not some special wrong kind of capitalism if it is what capitalism was always doomed to evolve into. and communism is even worse so dont come at me calling me a commie

>> No.52915074

>>52913078
Elon is not a public servant though, but I agree, let’s track Maxine Waters and AOC 24/7, how about you become a real popular figure in your commie faction by suggesting that to them under your real name, I’m sure your friends will be supportive of your great idea.

>> No.52915087

>>52915065
crony capitalism and the erosion of free market is just late stage capitalism. its what it was always going to devolve into. leftypol was right about something

>> No.52915094

>>52911909
even if he quits ether foundation today he still 51%
the only reason for this ruskie pedokike still being alive and joking about drugs and molesting little kids is because his father glows harder than the retards paid with taxpayers money to be here posting their retarded shit and sliding threads all day

>> No.52915111

>>52913527
>>52913600
Green wins this debate, purple is an obnoxious pedant.

Mainstream journalists use doxxing as a weapon against people they don't like while respecting the privacy of those they do like, and everyone knows it. Even when it is technically public, signal boosting it obviously makes a difference. We are on 4chan, no use playing dumb about what can happen when someone posts your info, or the threatening character of such posts.

>> No.52915145

and since i'm complaining about late stage capitalism i'll attack late stage communism too

communism is when the state abuses its power to seize the means of production for the few who control the state. attempts to vote in some workers council of peers is a fantasy, whoever ends up in power will become addicted and seek more over time which in late stage communism leads to elections fully controlled in their results, a leadership totally corrupt. theft of power in the form of wealth from private enterprise combined with the egotistical belief that a centralized institution can micromanage an economy (a belief stemming from addiction to power and the need to justify seeking more) ends up bankrupting the nation into starvation and poverty from which the state emerges still in power over a people now too weak and unstable to resist them.

>> No.52915158

>>52915004
Capitalists aren't leftists, dumbshit.

>> No.52915201

>>52913309
I’m going over what he wrote carefully and I can’t see any majority of false assumptions. Either you are arguing in bad faith, or you rely on a false assumption somewhere. In the interest of rational debate, you have accused the other guy of a mistake but you refuse to point out what it is, yet claim it disqualifies his whole argument. This is not up to the standards of rational debate, so if anyone has disqualified themselves, it’s you. But it’s not too late, present a good argument showing an example of a false assumption in the text you accused, and show how and why it is a false assumption. Perhaps you are right, and just really, really bad at rational discourse?

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>>52912533
actually makes me bullish he is draining the swamp,

>> No.52915233

>>52915217
This is an attack vector used by the deepstate and why no one can 'build their own twitter'

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52915240

capitalism, communism, democracy, fascism, socialism, it doesn't matter. all your isms are spooks and scams. they all fail the same way for the same reasons i listed in my last few posts.

these isms will always continue failing us for the same reasons the old ways failed so why bicker about which failed ism failed harder. we need new ideas people, not old ones.

we need to abandon isms. and come to something new, thinking outside the bun

>> No.52915272

>>52915217
>>52915233
>cp is good, actually
holy cope

>> No.52915285

>>52915240
I abandoned some ism in your mom last night.

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>>52915272
how'd you get that out of what I said, just shows me deepstate is trying to take him down

>> No.52915302

>>52915240
You are asking goyim to act as Individuals. Not going to happen.

>> No.52915308

>>52913600
> Did you provide a shred of evidence to support your claim? No? Then it is an assumption
No that simply means you are surprisingly unaware of basic laws of statistics.
This is not an academic forum. I am not supposed to start my argument in the mathematical axioms and derive from there. A certain familiarity with the subject can be expected from the reader. In this thread, full of 4chan posters, everyone understands very well the potential consequences of doxing, and that incidence of negative doxing consequences is inexorably to some extent a function of incidence of doxing. Everyone understands these premises, so not listing them doesn’t turn it into an assumption, false or not. The only false assumption was the assumption that you’d be capable of understanding what you read.

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>>52915272
I see all porn as a weapon
Dollars are IOU's remember

>> No.52915328

>>52913309
You are so cringe dude

>> No.52915345

>>52915328
Not an argument, dicklick.

>> No.52915351

>>52913527
Based

>> No.52915357

>>52915308
Fear of doxxing is a mental disorder.

>> No.52915364

>>52913600
Very cringe, you lost dude

>> No.52915387

>>52915351
>>52915364
Low IQ detected.

>> No.52915395

>>52915328
What do you expect? You are talking to someone that has made more than 25% of the posts in this thread. What a way to spend the Sabbath.

>> No.52915401

>>52915357
Post ur adress, it wont increase the change of something happening to you, it just doesnt, ok? Or am I making false assumptions?

>> No.52915411

>>52915395
You're in the double digits too, big boy. You just didn't utterly dominate like me.

>> No.52915459

>>52914125
Have to stop you there. It doesn’t track planes, it tracks information about planes emitted by systems on the plane.
But I have to stop me there. It doesn’t track information about planes, it tracks the signals sent out by components, so it’s just a component signal tracking system.
And how could THAT ever lead to harm? Glad I was here to clear all that up with my humongous mind!
(this is you)

>> No.52915468

>>52915411
do you have any empirical evidence of this utter domination? if not i'm declaring that a false assumption

>> No.52915476

>>52915459
Flight data doesn't track people outside planes, brainiac.

>> No.52915484

>>52915468
You aren't any better than he is.

>> No.52915509

>>52915476
if enough people are watching your flight and know where and when its landing there can be people on the ground to watch the airport and report when you're coming out or what vehicle you're going into etc. would be easy if there were say msm outlets posting a link to a plane tracker and tweeting that info out to millions.

>> No.52915517

>>52915476
>planes
Making false assumptions again, kiddo. It also tracks helicopters, dumbass. Use some LOGIC, brainiac

>> No.52915524

>>52915509
Yes, we mustn't forget about all the gangstalkers.

>> No.52915564

>>52915524
yeah why would the richest man in the world, a man famous and much discussed. a controversial divisive figure demonized by a radical mob infesting the nation. why would anyone stalk that guy right.

>> No.52915580

>>52915564
I'd rather be in his shoes than in the shoes of the average prole.

>> No.52915640

>>52915580
sure, not that you could fit in his shoes but anyways. would you like millions of people tracking your location every time you get on a plane and talking about how much they hate you and what a threat they think you are? you'd feel empirically safe with that? potentially they're organizing to try and see you ate the airport and report that back to the group in the hope that somebody tries to "hold you accountable"

>> No.52915649

>>52915158
No, leftists have legitimized capitalist corporations by accepting their transparent “woke” PR campaigns. You did that. Not the corporations (they were the ones who tricked you), and not the right (they were the ones who weren’t tricked, this time).

>> No.52915652

>>52911853
rules for thee, not for me

instead of getting mad, start playing the game

>> No.52915658

>>52915649
>leftists have legitimized capitalist corporations by accepting their transparent “woke” PR campaigns.
Imagine being this delusional.

>not the right (they were the ones who weren’t tricked
wew, talk about irony

>> No.52915693

>>52915357
> Eternal September
Yes, junior, you know best. What was the political agenda you wanted to recommend as a result of your terrific analytical powers again? I’m sure you know what you’re talking about there too, as you so clearly do here.

>> No.52915729

>>52915580
> I'd rather be in his shoes than in the shoes of the average prole.
Funny, because your ideological masters would prefer to see you barefoot (and starving).

>> No.52915730

>>52915693
Stercoranism, mainly.

>> No.52915740

>>52915729
>your ideological masters
Get a load of this projecting mongoloid.

>> No.52915748

>>52915658
Imagine getting accused of that, and not be able to come up with a real defense, desperately trying to reject it without having to find an argument in support of your view by calling it “delusional”.
Pathetic.

>> No.52915777

>>52915730
Dumb AND a coward.
Prefer to play cute when you’re cornered, eh?

>> No.52915787

>>52915748
You and your ilk are the only ones taking "corporate wokeness" seriously. You are too stupid to look beyond the surface. The psy-op has always been on you.

>> No.52915795

>>52915777
Wasted. Imagine going through life as a humorless autist.

>> No.52915797

>>52915740
Regardless of your views on shitting out Christ, you are quite obviously a stinking, weak willed, confused, entitled, grandiose commie.

>> No.52915810

>>52915797
>commie
Which in your view means worshiping free-market capitalism, apparently.

>> No.52915860

>>52915787
LOL!!!
Ok, so that really stung, huh? Yeah, corpos have adopted “woke” PR to *alienate* large parts of their consumer base! This is your theory! Hahahahaha talk about making false assumptions!!
It is quite clear they do it because YOUR side is dumb enough to fall for it, licking corporate boot all day long as long as they say “white man bad”. This is so funny I can’t stop laughing. Your infinite hypocrisy is called out, and all you can do is go
> no u
I didn’t realize it was quite so touchy, I assumed (a false assumption) your side would have built some better defense against the obvious dissonance, but it seems the big doors are wide open, anyone can just march in and utterly destroy the left forever by simply pointing out the emperor is butt naked and all the revolutionary leftists are entirely preoccupied with licking fascist boot.
Amazing. You are truly over.

>> No.52915877

>>52915795
Imagine thinking you are a funny leftist. The left can’t meme, and hasn’t been funny since the 60s (coincidentally the last time you cared about free speech).
You were not funny, you were trying to be cute. Guess what? You’re not cute.

>> No.52915890

>>52915810
The fact that you have been tricked by your ostensible enemy into worshipping them because their PR firm makes statements you like doesn’t exactly bolster your case, junior.

>> No.52915905

>>52915860
Wokeism is essentially taking "be nice to everyone" to absurd extremes. That is a very "brand safe" ethos by its very nature. Marketers and the oversensitive are natural allies in that respect. None of this has anything to do with politics. On a political level, identity politics is used to divide and conquer the proles, same way it has been used by the ruling class for millennia. Nothing new under the sun.

>> No.52915916

>>52915877
>thinks memes are good
>calls other people propagandists
wew

>> No.52915931

>>52915890
>you have been tricked by your ostensible enemy into worshipping them
Nope, that's you. You are the only people talking about corporate wokeness and ESG in serious tones. Everyone else recognizes it for the smiley corporate nonsense that it is.

>> No.52915964

>>52915905
> nothing new under the sun
This I can agree with. What you guys are doing is just the Salem witch burnings all over again. The people burning witches would love to blame the inquisition, but in reality it was villagers traveling for weeks to find representatives of the inquisition and convince them to come to their village, became they were certain that some lady who failed the eternal popularity contest should be killed.
You blame the corpos for egging you on, but all you needed was an excuse and you turn into the frenzied mob at the drop of a hat. It is in your nature, and it has indeed been well known for thousands of years.

>> No.52915982

>>52912789
journalists should be afraid to show their faces in public

>> No.52915986

>>52915931
> only your side make a big deal about the death squads we send for you - our side is just smiling and joking about it!
Uh huh. But the tables are turning. Expect no mercy. There will come a time when you will plead, but you recognize your own words as the very ones you callously dismissed when coming from the other side. You have sown your own demise.

>> No.52915994

>>52915916
> thinks memes are bad, because unable to do them
Leftist confirmed.

>> No.52916013

Vitalik has 90 IQ awareness which is why he suddenly believes twitter bans are novel under Elon.

>> No.52916036

>>52911924
what the fuck

>> No.52916042

>>52915964
>What you guys are doing is just the Salem witch burnings all over again.
Certainly not "my guys". The Capital Class are the ones using identity politics as a political weapon. Notice how the more elite an institution is, the more rigorously 'woke' they are? It's just the latest set of hoops to jump through. Victorians had their own (more conservative) set of constraints on polite society. Those who don't adhere to the unspoken rules get expelled from elite circles. The richest capitalists on the planet are the people spreading this shit. It's baffling to me how rightwingers can't grasp these simple facts.

>> No.52916050

>>52915787
>>52915905
>None of this has anything to do with politics
see
>>52915019

we looked beyond the surface, the psyop is esg, keeps the corporations and advertisers in line pushing the globohomo agenda while the woke clap along

>> No.52916052

>>52915986
>takes it seriously
Thanks for proving my point, propaganda victim.

>> No.52916064

>>52915994
Memes are just digital propaganda posters. People who are persuaded by them are literal retards. Hence the right's obsession with them.

>> No.52916079

>>52916042
> The richest capitalists on the planet are the people spreading this shit.
Yes, normal people know this fully well, but we don’t see any reason to expect them to stop as long as it’s working. In other words, the core problem is you guys keep falling for it. If that didn’t happen, the rich wouldn’t push for it. It’s obvious crowd control, problem is your side is too dumb to see it and swallow the whole thing, hook, line and sinker. Until we can get the “woke” crowd to wake up, you guys will continue to be the problem, not the rich corporations cynically egging you on.

>> No.52916088

>>52913798
Umm sweaty do you have an empirical peer reviewed study proving he can't do it?
faggot
No?

>> No.52916090

>>52916050
>pushing the globohomo agenda
AKA capitalism. Corporations don't need any further incentive to be greedy profit machines.

>> No.52916097

>>52916052
> haha he takes the propaganda directed at demonizing him and his kids seriously
We’ll see how you feel about it soon enough. New McCarthyism is on its way and I for one won’t protest when your life is ruined.

>> No.52916105

>>52916079
>In other words, the core problem is you guys keep falling for it.
Literally no one is falling for it except the right.

>> No.52916109

>>52913366
Ok, but who let the redditor in?

>> No.52916113

>>52916090
and what is behind esg? i spell it all out and i even blame capitalism, at least read my posts explaining globohomo esg nigger
>>52915019
>>52915065

>> No.52916114

>>52916064
> Memes are just digital propaganda posters
The left really is decades behind in the culture war.
> subversive comics and music is just propaganda. Dismissed!
You are just as dumb as the right was in the 60s.

>> No.52916131

>>52916105
If this were true corporations wouldn’t keep paying for it. They do it because it works, on you. As in, you buy more stuff from them when they do it.
False assumption much?

>> No.52916149

>>52916097
>New McCarthyism is on its way
Same as the old McCarthyism. Doesn't matter if it's from a liberal or conservative perspective, these elite-imposed societal strictures have the sole purpose of dividing the people who could possibly oppose the whims of the ruling class. Can't get any more rightwing than that.

>> No.52916173

>>52916114
>the culture war
By waging a "culture war" you are only proving how successfully you have been brainwashed by the Capital class.

>> No.52916190

>>52916131
>They do it because it works, on you.
Nope, I explained why it works, here: >>52915905
Most leftists are conservative not liberal, by the way.

>> No.52916204

the left-right political paradigm is obnoxious and useless and should be abandoned as it was designed to divide us especially in areas where we might agree

>> No.52916230

>>52916149
The people divides itself just fine, and the reason is we have sociopaths like you in it. Groups with no rulers behave the same. If anything we evolved establishments to keep people like you in check.
You think the world consists of: the evil elite, the good people who oppose them and the dumb people who follow them. In reality, we have the people, which has always suffered from having you human-like impostors among us, so we have organized to minimize the detrimental impact on us all from you. So there’s the people, there’s the people’s police force (aka the establishment) and then there’s you. The criminal mind, always on the lookout for a means of sustenance that doesn’t involve an honest days’ work. The elite work full days. Regular people work full days. The enemy of humanity is you, the parasite.

>> No.52916235

the left accuses the right of being something very few of them are. stuck in their bubble they demonize the other and develop a hatred based on a strawman they invented. to a lesser extent the right does the same to the left. in reality there is a reasonable majority on both sides trapped in one or the other bubble that could find common ground if they stopped beating up strawmen in front of each other.

>> No.52916251

>>52916230
Ah, the mask slips.

>> No.52916253

>>52916190
> be nice to everyone
That would imply a consistent subset rule would be
> be nice to white, middle-aged, well-off cis-men
Since we ALL know that’s a lie, you can consider yourself debunked.

>> No.52916299

it take a great deal of effort and energy to keep us divided. the division is actively maintained. but at times it weakens and the bubbles merge and division fails and thats when the people are at their strongest

>> No.52916302

>>52916251
What mask?
Let me be clear: I hate you commies with a burning passion. You think it is cute. Which one of us would be the one to have actually set foot in a communist country, do you think?
I have seen what your brand of psychopath politics leads to, and I have seen what the people who advocate it turn out to be when they get to power. You are a wet behind the ears dumb kid, or you are the type of psycho who should in truth be thrown from a helicopter, the most dangerous and vile enemy of humanity we have.

>> No.52916329

>>52916302
*For those following at home, when he says "commie" he means "free market capitalist". It's his special lingo.

>> No.52916426

>>52916299
Checked. Very romantic, but not true. The elite and regular people are not different species, it’s all just people. If you state that the blame for human woes lies with a subset of the people, you’d be right, but that group is far bigger than the elite, and the elite is not entirely composed of people from this set.
The reality is that it’s people like the guy I’m arguing with that are the problem. Commies. Entitled fucks who think the billions of people worse off than themselves should be ignored while anyone better off due to hard work should be forced to pay for the commie enjoying a lifestyle of doing nothing at all.
Every capitalist I know wants to pay taxes to help honest people down on their luck. What nobody wants is to pay for entitled, lazy commie fucks. You’d think that would simply be that, but most of society’s problems come from this criminal group’s efforts to conspire to destabilize society in the hopes that it will put their comfy lifestyle into question. This seems like an exaggerated view until they take over a whole country, at which point you can see that I am stunningly correct.

>> No.52916443

>>52916329
When I say commie, I mean you, commie.
I don’t mean the companies with “woke” PR, I mean the commies they pander to, which is you and your crowd.

>> No.52916454

>>52916426
Imagine being this resoundingly clueless.

>>52916443
>the commies they pander to, which is you and your crowd
Lol, you couldn't be more wrong.

>> No.52916466

>>52916426
> in the hopes it will avoid putting their lifestyle into question*

>> No.52916476

>>52916454
Have you ever been to a communist country, seeing with your own eyes what you advocate leads to? Be honest.

>> No.52916494

>>52916454
> you equate me with that group of commies?
> you couldn’t be more wrong!
> those are Ludorfian school commies, I’m a Walderwian school commie!
> you fool!!

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>> No.52916517

>>52916466
I love how you switched your shilling style in the middle of the thread. At first you pretended not to be a soulless corporate shill. Someone who didn't fall for corporate propaganda, a bit of a rebel. Then you dropped that act and came out as a full-on elite-loving establishment-fellating corporate whore. Pottery.

>> No.52916523

>>52911853
I'll never buy eth because of this wef piece of shit

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Why is vitalik so powerful? Even the supposed inventor of bitcoin can’t stump him

>> No.52916544

>>52916494
The only "commies" you know are your elite establishment pals. You know, the ones actually propagating the bad cultural stuff you're always talking about?

>> No.52916546

>>52916149
>muh mccarthism
You truly are a braindead retard. The natural state of all leftists, including "liberal" ones, is to only hire other leftists and fire and silence non-leftists at all opportunities. You have nothing to be self-righteous about.
>liberal
There's nothing liberal about american liberals. You're rabid dogs drunk on marxism.

>> No.52916550

>>52916426
>no it's not the elites thats the problem it's the other, focus on those other guys. stay divided and ignore the people running shit they're not so bad
lol, lmao even

>> No.52916578

>>52916546
Wow, this post is really a smorgasbord of nonsense. Your enemies on cultural issues are liberals not leftists.

>> No.52916589

>>52916517
I have no love for corporations. I don’t care about them. But they are not the problem. You are. That’s generally true. Specifically, in this instance, corporations are engaged in bad behavior, but the reason is not that they are evil (they only care about profits, they won’t waste money on doing evil), the reason is they are trying to pander to an evil segment of consumers, namely you.
So I hate what the corporations are doing, but make no mistake, it’s all your fault.

>> No.52916594

>>52916550
>successful people, that's the real enemy
>not us sociopathic leftists who do everything we can to make life as bad as possible, replace whites, silence everyone who disagree with us and get off on terrorism and murdering people
Do the world a favor and end your life, subhuman.

>> No.52916599

>>52916544
For the readers at home, turns out it was that guy who had a homespun idea where the capitalists are the communists, all along. Quelle surprise.

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>>52916578
There's literally no difference, you dunning kruger example. You both hate whites, borders, freedom, free markets, free speech, meritocracy just as much. Who do you think you're kidding?

>> No.52916611

>>52916589
>they only care about profits, they won’t waste money on doing evil
Ironic statement of the day.

>they are trying to pander to an evil segment of consumers, namely you.
Well then they're not doing a very good job. Political correctness is one of my pet peeves. As well as advertising of all kinds.

>> No.52916614

>>52916589
at the top of the power stucture, they're evil. and the corporations who just want to make money are held back and controlled by the esg scheme which is wielded as a tool by the evil ones to force the corporations to force the anti-human agenda and culture war that keeps us too divided to challenge the evil elites and their addiction to power.

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>>52916578
Yeah, when I think of allies of good, decent people, I think of antifa-tier leftists too. Just look at these well-meaning, totally not dysgenic faces.

>> No.52916641

>>52916594
oh i'm a leftist? after i said nothing at all about replacing whites or whatever and said this about communism
>>52915145
no, i'm not a leftist. not left, not right wing. but delta wing. maximum lift. above it all

>> No.52916645

>>52916602
>thinks Democrats are leftist
lol

>You both hate whites, borders, freedom, free markets, free speech, meritocracy just as much.
Nope, only in your meth-addled brain.

>> No.52916655

>>52916550
Correct. The corporations may have issues, but nothing that counts compared to the real enemy of humanity, you. You are the one who should be dealt with, if we want the lot of humanity to improve.
And after this decade, everyone knows it. Everyone can see you for what you are, and after you have systematically dismantled the concept of compassion for your opposition while you were in power, expect the worst.

>> No.52916666

>>52916638
>antifa-tier leftists
Nice oxymoron, smoothbrain. Antifa are textbook radlibs.

>> No.52916686

>>52916655
me? the enemy? the anti-esg communist hating, capitalism criticizing delta wing (not right wing, not left wing, delta wing, maximum lift, above it all) man against diversity quotas and in favour of saying nigger as freedom of speech. i'm the problem?

>> No.52916708

>>52916686
Don't pay attention to him, he's unhinged.

>> No.52916709

>>52916655
>the corporations may have issues
do have issues, in that they're controlled by globohomo through esg
>but the real enemy is this strawman im creating and associating with you

nice attempt

>> No.52916739

>>52916611
>>they only care about profits, they won’t waste money on doing evil
> Ironic statement of the day
The commie mind, everyone.
Profits are the result of optimized resource utilization. That is an objective good, benefiting all of humanity. Imagine the kind of mind that twists this into
> evil

>> No.52916757

>>52916739
power is the goal and the true addiction, profit merely a means to that end and can be sacrificed like a pawn for the greater goal of more power

>> No.52916780

>>52916686
Yes you, the crypto commie.
> le late stage capitalism
is a blatant commie (and reddit) meme. Pretending to criticize commies too doesn’t fool anyone. It’s also telling that you have no analysis of how or why capitalism and its elites would be evil, you just baselessly accuse them of it, when rational analysis clearly shows capitalism itself as a mechanism for producing objective good (efficiency in operations and resource allocation).

>> No.52916802

>>52916739
^ I'm convinced this is a bot now. It morphed from a populist cultural critique at the beginning to now a full-on embrace of boomer-tier establishment liberalism. What a journey!

>> No.52916803

>>52916709
It seems you have fallen for Larry Fink’s propaganda, that he does this because he’s an activist rather than someone who discovered they could exploit an unusually gullible and morally reprehensible segment of consumers. Sure, that’s cynical of him, but not evil on the scale of the people he’s marketing to.

>> No.52916827

>>52916803
>Larry Fink’s propaganda
Larry Fink is one of your guys, not ours. Leftists would string him up at the first opportunity.

>> No.52916845

>>52916780
>no you can't recognize late stage capitalism while also hating communism, you have to pick a side so you can be divided

>blindly accuse the elites of being evil
fucking hilarous, look at the world they're building. you're a fool if you think its for profit. i explained, it's the addiction to power that drives them
>>52915019
>>52915065
>>52915145
the elite can, will, and have used communism or late stage capitalism to seize power.

power is physically addictive, the addicted must do increasingly fucked up shit to feed the overwhelming addiction. becoming evil in the process. no individual can handle the power at this level without being destroyed by it

>> No.52916855

>>52916802
No I have been consistent in my stance the whole time. You are jumping around madly, because your whole head is filled with cognitive dissonance.
Commies are evil. Companies pandering to commies are bad for society, but not ultimate at fault since they just go where society asks them to (i.e. where the money is.) In the end the blame lies with is, the people, and if we want to be a little more specific it’s with you, the commies.

>> No.52916881

>>52916827
Sure you would, right after you are done licking his boots, buying all his products and setting up cancel culture to remove any competitor company that doesn’t go along with your and Larry’s agenda.
You are just swimming in credibility, buddy.

>> No.52916885

>>52916855
they go where the esg corporate social credit scheme forces them to go. and the wielders of that tied to the wef are engaged in elaborate schemes to further centralize power and feed their addictions. doing evil things to humanity, promoting anti-human agendas so we are too weakened to resist their power tripping endless power grab

>> No.52916919

>>52916855
There it is. You inadvertently gave up the game:

> they just go where society asks them to (i.e. where the money is.)
That's right: WHERE THE MONEY IS. The woke ain't broke, they got money spend. Know why? Because they are the Capital class.

>> No.52916941

since man is unfit to rule over man we need to limit the centralization of power, to distribute the burden across as many shoulders as possible to limit the corruption. humans never were designed or evolved to handle as much power as a man of the wef now wields, to control the fate of global megacorpos and control the puppet show governments. billions of lives at the whims and mercy of a few and its not enough. they always need more power and control, the most powerful addiction is theres to feed and they can't stop, wont stop.

a man can run a village, or a factory, but beyond that it becomes too much. a man cannot run a country or a million other men. or wield undue influence upon a majority of capital. that kind of power and addiction ruins all who touch it and they all seek ways to feed their growing addictions and the rush they get being in control

>> No.52916949

>>52916845
> no individual can handle the power at this level without being destroyed by it
Or at least it takes a very special kind, with different, blue blood running in their veins. This is why we used to have royalty.
There are two contrasting perspectives on human history. One maintains the elites control, and have always controlled, everything. The other holds that the elite rules at the pleasure of the people. I subscribe to the second view. Starting with ape societies, that’s how it works there, and I see no breaking point in human history when elites would have assumed complete control. The elites stray out of line, the people deal with them. This has always been true, for kings and presidents.
But the he consequence of this is that responsibility for most bad things lies with the people, rather than the elite. I accept this, but I also hold that it’s not all people, it’s a certain subset: the grifters, the criminals, the freeloaders, who in this day and age like to refer to themselves as commies or “progressives”.

>> No.52916966

>>52916885
They only can when there is demand for it. The demand is coming from the left.

>> No.52916969

>>52916881
Sounds like projection. Are you a rabid consooomer? The right is so used to swallowing corporate propaganda that when it changes perspective they assume the other side will be just as gullible as they are. Wrong, that trait is intrinsic to the right.

>> No.52916981

>>52916949
and that didn't work. the monarchies become corrupted with power and evil as well. no shortage of mad rulers who got there by blood.

breaking point in human history was the first city state, sumeria. that was only recent in our species history, and it was something the human psychology still hasnt adopted or evolved to handle. the level of power wielded by the few over the many was at that point too much, it became a sickness, an addiction more powerful then heroine that can only be fed by seizing ever more control. and the power of todays modern nation state is orders of magnitude beyond that

>> No.52917006

>>52916981
for our entire history of 300,000 years of homo sapiens no man held more power then that of tribal leader at most. and then finally agriculture, towns, behavioral modernity. and then just recently in the last few thousand years the first modern agricultural city state. its too soon, we havent physically adapted our psychology as humans to that level of power. its unnatural

>> No.52917013

>>52916981
Your posts are getting smarter, anon. I'm actually starting to enjoy them.

>> No.52917093

>>52916969
I am not right-wing though. I’m a free ridin’ “special wings” centrist, like our friend who I’m currently accusing of being a commie. He’s making the mistake of thinking npcs are woke because Larry told them to, when in fact Larry’s peddling woke because npcs demanded it.
Imagine Larry were a robot, an AI with orders to maximize market efficiency. Clearly that AI would not be evil, driven only by rational analysis. So when robot-Larry started pushing esg, it would be quite clear that the market itself, i.e. consumers, were to blame. Well, in practice Larry is robot-Larry, in that the most efficient capital allocator will end up with the most capital to allocate, so if Larry had not been an expert at giving the market what they ask for, he would not have been rich and we would have been talking about Harry Kink, who had the good business sense to sell woke to npcs. In short, everything can, and must, be blamed on the woke crowd/commies.

>> No.52917120

>>52916981
I see where you’re coming from but I think you are wrong about the masses generally not being able to overthrow a regime they disagree with enough. Which in turn implies that up to that point the elite rules with the implicit go-ahead of the people.

>> No.52917127

>>52917093
>He’s making the mistake of thinking npcs are woke because Larry told them to, when in fact Larry’s peddling woke because npcs demanded it. Imagine Larry were a robot, an AI with orders to maximize market efficiency. Clearly that AI would not be evil, driven only by rational analysis. So when robot-Larry started pushing esg, it would be quite clear that the market itself, i.e. consumers, were to blame. Well, in practice Larry is robot-Larry, in that the most efficient capital allocator will end up with the most capital to allocate, so if Larry had not been an expert at giving the market what they ask for, he would not have been rich and we would have been talking about Harry Kink, who had the good business sense to sell woke to npcs.
You're just making my case for me at this point.

>In short, everything can, and must, be blamed on the woke crowd/commies.
lol

>> No.52917154

>>52917127
Only if your case is that woke commies like you are the root of all of mankind’s troubles.

>> No.52917175

>>52917154
Again, you and your elite establishment buddies are the "woke commies", not me.

>> No.52917276

>>52917120
but if we remain divided and trying to overthrow each other it becomes impossible. and when we do overthrow we naively trust new forms of centralized power to take over which creates the same problems and repeats the process

>> No.52917300

>>52917093
larry and his ilk or whoever is pulling his strings is peddling woke as a means of keeping the corporations under control. he can pick winners and losers by adjusting esg scores.

>> No.52917341

>>52917276
What I’m saying is that pure dictatorships are rare, if you overthrow some faction of the elite you’re also overthrowing a large portion of society that are on their side. Pretending interests align cleanly in one direction for the elite, and in another distinct direction for everyone else is not realistic.

>> No.52917348

esg (environmental social justice) criteria is vague, made politically incorrect to challenge, and open to interpretation. one is never inclusive or diverse enough. blackrock decides who keeps a high esg score and who doesnt and makes up the reasons later. a corporation fails to be woke enough then that corporation is not bending the knee and the esg score is lowered and now that non-woke corpo is denied investment and cooperation with any corporation under esg control (which is almost all of them since blackrock is invested in everything). its about power not money, its top down not demanded by the people, its not even about the people expect as a bonus it works to strip our humanity and divide us and make u easier to conquer.

>> No.52917392

>>52917341
the only interest of the elite is feeding their addiction for more power and control at any cost, they've gone insane with that addiction and have lost reason. like rabid dogs foaming at the mouth for more control. and they're willing to go to increasingly fucked up and evil lengths to get it. the unnatural addiction is so strong. against that we all have a common enemy whether all recognize it or not

>> No.52917484

>>52917348
Telling companies as an investor to “do as I say or I won’t invest” will only take you so far. Larry’s big weapon is his threat of sending the rabid woke monkeys your way you disobey. All Larry did was discover a latent force, an army of idiots, chomping at the bits to wallow in rage-fueled hysteria, attacking anything and anyone as soon as the right magic words were spoken. Larry learned those words and then took on the business world like a mafioso, going “Nice business you have here, it would be a shame if those rabid monkeys suddenly got it in their heads to attack YOU!”
I hate the rabid, woke monkeys even more than Larry, who just pulled a rather obvious stunt.

>> No.52917513

>>52917484
it's more like do as a i say or i and every company i invest in (all of them) will refuse to invest or do business with you and you simply will not make it to power. the addiction to power in many corporate types leave them unable to refuse. the woke mobs of monkeys are brainwashed lumpenproles who could be brainwashed back the other direction if an authority figure on tv did the right song and dance. the lemmings were never the big threat.

nice cover though larry

>> No.52917523

>>52917484
If Larry is "pulling a stunt", he is pulling it on his own wife and children. Actual working people don't care about that nonsense.

>> No.52917529

>>52917392
Hitler did not seize power, the people gave it to him. The witch burnings were almost always on the initiative of the people. Name one big atrocity that can squarely be blamed on the elite rather than the people. There are a few, so it’s not like you win by listing one, but if you do it will be clear that the nature of elite-caused atrocities is not what you generally see in atrocities.

>> No.52917679

>>52917513
That’s exactly what he does, but don’t think he could have freely picked any ser of values to push. The reason it works is that the left currently has the violence advantage. Had right-wing militants been the dominating faction, he would have had to use their values for his scheme.
The same, despicable people are found on the left and the right. There are even a few despicable centrists. Currently, most of the despicable people have flocked around leftist agendas. But the real threat to humanity is despicable people, and the elite only has room for a few of them.
It’s not elite = bad, the people = good. It’s that there are good people and bad people - and the problem is that there’s quite a lot of bad people. Some of the bad people are in the elite, but simply because the elite is small, most of them aren’t. Sure, once in the elite they wield outsize power to do bad, but it still usually can’t compete with the destructive capacity of the masses.
The problem is bad people, and most of them aren’t elite, and currently most of them are flocking to the left.

>> No.52917687

>>52917529
hitler was a scripted character, during a staged war. you don't know whats going on and you naively think its all about profit and the bad masses and the good elites.

>> No.52917712

>>52917679
democracy isn't real, votes don't count, the idiot masses believe what they're told, most of who you thin of as elites are just the public facing puppets. its just a smoke and mirrors shit show scripted characters and narratives and even wars. to hide a cut-throat power tripping elite seeking more control to feed a power addiction at all costs and breaking the minds of the masses to get it.

>> No.52917720

>>52917687
Sure, sure, Hitler was a Rothchild and the extraterrestrial illuminati is in a race to find the time reset button hidden in Egypt. Did you know the secret of the Templars is hidden in Scrooge McDuck’s family castle in Scotland?
Are you quite sure you’re an intellectual?

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>>52917720
hitler, trump, biden. all scripted characters. yes, like it was a show written in hollywood.

>> No.52917737

>>52917712
I’ll tell you where you’re wrong. The “sheeple” aren’t as dumb as you think. They’re in on it.

>> No.52917745

>>52917737
i am people buddy, we're pretty naive and oblivious but more of us wake up everyday

>> No.52917795

>>52917729
Your spider senses have picked up on a real thing, but you are interpreting it backwards.
Democracy is essentially “plausible deniability” for the people. America invades some country, and the American people goes “oooh don’t blame us, we’re all goody two shoes, it was our evil politicians! But don’t worry, we sure reacted, we voted him out and replaced him with a black, hip guy (who will continue the bombings) so you clearly understand it wasn’t our fault”
It’s a sham. I’m not saying the poor elites are being set up, because they are in on it and handsomely rewarded, but don’t think for a second that the people doesn’t know what it’s doing.

>> No.52917827

>>52917795
nobody individually has any power over any of that and we're not secretly in cahoots to use democracy as plausible deniability so we can have fun bombing the middle east. what absurd paranoia about the people. get out more, touch grass. and you wont get the last word

>> No.52917846

>a secret unspoken bond that connects the evil masses as they wield a democracy they all know is a lie as a plausible deniability so they do evil on others and cover it up. a conspiracy of billions secret shhhh unspoken.
meds

>> No.52917853

>oh those poor elite wrapped on the secret and evil machinations of us corrupted peasants. the dark conspiracy of the masses forcing the elite to do bad things they don't want to do!
it's just so imaginative, but ridiculous

>> No.52917861

>>52917745
Nope, most people just pretend. They unerringly pick the option that benefits them the most, and then they go “oh really, I did? I wasn’t looking very carefully..”
Take boomers. According to them, they have just tried to do an honest day’s work, look after their house, mow their lawn and they have no ideeeeaaa how they ended up on top of everything. When I was young, the generation after boomers tried to warn them that they were selling out their children’s futures. The boomers laughed and called them crazy. We didn’t need to build more houses. Saddling enormous debt that your grandkids would still be paying off was not a problem. Bringing in half the third world would be fine. Now, when the consequences are clear, they never even heard anyone ever claim it could happen, they had no clue.
They knew exactly what they were doing, the whole time. People always do.

>> No.52917871

>>52917827
> and we're not secretly in cahoots to use democracy as plausible deniability
Yes we are. The reason you didn’t get the memo is that if we sent out a memo, there wouldn’t be plausible deniability any more.
These are not flakey thoughts, these are things most people realize around middle age.

>> No.52917873

>>52917861
because its beyond their power to do anything about anything and they know it and it bores them anyways so they go along to get along and stick to their own business. not to mention that seeing the truth is mentally scarring and causes one to live in terror, the redpill that cannot be unseen and many of them would be reduces to constant panic attacks if they were to perceive a fraction of the truth so they don't want to hear it. because it would ruin them to believe it and it wouldnt matter because they'd still be powerless to stop it. individually anyways

>> No.52917880

>>52917846
It works the same as most large conspiracies. By unspoken agreement over aligned incentives. No coordination required when most people figure it out on their own.

>> No.52917882

>>52917871
yes the secret thoughts billions of had but never shared. "shhh lets all pretend democracy is real so we can bomb the middle east and poison ourselves with food additives it will be fun lets all keep the secret without saying anything"

buddy that is absolute actual schizo theory shit

>> No.52917893

>>52917880
you're talking a conspiracy of billions of people, you're fucking insane. billions willing to hurt themselves and others out of sheer evil delight getting fuck all out of it aside from an excuse to bomb the middle east for dubious gains. it makes no fucking sense and is the most far fetched and absurd conspiracy theory ive heard on 4chan and ive heard a lot

>> No.52917910

>>52917853
It’s not as radical as you think. It’s in the same vein as Dawkins suggesting most people who claim to be religious only pretend to be, to conform. They obviously don’t conspire or coordinate this with everyone else who is pretending.
People vote in their own self interest, and then pretend that they don’t to virtue signal. Is that really such a preposterous suggestion?

>> No.52917924

>>52917873
All of that is true, but now you’re explaining how come I’m right rather than objecting.

>> No.52917946

>>52917924
>>52917910
it's absurd to suggest that billions of people are conspiring to fuck themselves over, gain nothing in the process, just for some evil gleeful vague reason undefined. just to fuck everyone over they all pretend without every EVER saying anything to each other that they think democracy is real. and then lash out when anyone says it isnt because they're all automatically in cahoots to uphold the lie.

easier explanation: people are naive and willfully ignorant because they don't want to know, dont care, and feel they couldn't do fuck all about it anyways

the mental gymnastics you're going through to pretend the elite aren't running the show is hilarious. the elite are behind any conspiracies. not billions of people all doing a thing unspoken together.

>> No.52917951

>>52917882
> totally far fetched
It was pretty obvious to the rest of the world. 9/11 terrorists hit America, the whole nation shits its pants, every single man and woman in jingoist agreement, “we have to bomb someone, it doesn’t really matter whom, to show how powerful we are so the world hesitates about bombing us again”. So Bush jr invades Afghanistan and Iraq, to the unison cheers of every American modulus some country singing trio that is now the national black sheep. America puts its devastating foot down, the world is properly impressed, but now Americans, having calmed down a bit, wish to not come off as blood thirdty, shitscared monsters. So they elect Obama, and go “booo bush” (after having cheered his every step), and voila, the American people come out smelling like a rose. Every time.

>> No.52917977
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52917977

God, you are all literal fucking children.
>atheist fedorafag nihilistic subhuman doomers
>abhorrent fucking commies who want every toy in the toy aisle to be free, but also muh working class
>people seething like children over "MUH LIFE ISN'T FAIR"

Capitalism isn't "evil" you fucking retards.
Yes, society being subverted by globalist subhumans is evil; capitalism is the term we use for the most basic economic system in history - barter is capitalistic, owning things is capitalistic, having a business is capitalistic, having a trade, or skills, and getting something in return, is "capitalistic."
>re-defining capitalism as communism
>re-defining corporatism as capitalism
>blaming life and God and reality, while denying all three in different ways
>a march of weakness and dysgenics, a Weimar snake that eats its own tale, claiming to be attacking a foe of "injustice" while it eats itself alive
>"it's all insincere" and "it's all too sincere"
>panic, whining, crying

I can see the collapse of Western civilization 'fore my very eyes, and you fucking pseudo-intellectuals are running back and forth, little soi-faggot arms wobbling in the air, as you try to find ways of pinning this onto nature, onto society, onto mankind, onto capitalism, onto reality itself.
It's the classical cycle of the dysgenic subhuman:
>get butthurt that everything isn't free, blame capitalism
>realize blaming capitalism is stupid, because it's natural, so, blame nature instead
>realize blaming nature is stupid, because it's just how life is, so you blame life itself
>hatred of life drives you to kill yourself
I only find solace in the fact that soon enough, bleeding heart idealists will end themselves, or change for the better.

Fuck electronics and fuck modernity, I'm staying in my cabin innawoods, except tossing out this infernal fucking device first.

>> No.52917981

>>52917977
Not a single one of you morons realizes that this is but a standard, normal, and healthy cycle of society - a corrupt, degenerate empire falling, a natural time for depopulating our overpopulated planet.
The nihilist faggots will talk about "STOP HAVING CHILDREN", as they select themselves out of the gene pool, the industrial globalist retards and their pawns whine about "WE NEED MORE SOI AND BUG FLOUR TO SUPPORT 50 GORRILLION PEOPLE ON THE PLANET, EVERY LIFE MATTERS."

It's so incredibly pathetic and tiresome, that if I wasn't observing from the sidelines, I might just very well have lost my mind.
This is Sodom and Gomorrah.

>> No.52917988

>>52917951
nobody has any power over any of those events. the elite scripted it was obamas turn. and the people let the wool get pulled over their eyes.

all these billions, in cahoots together on your master plan, never speaking about it amongst each other because they all just know to keep the secret. thats mad, that's not a thing, that doesn't happen. people would talk about it, would joke about it. would wink wink each other and snicker behind their hands. billions would need to keey your secret

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>>52917977
>Fuck electronics and fuck modernity, I'm staying in my cabin innawoods, except tossing out this infernal fucking device first.

I was going to lambaste you for implying the federal reserve infinity money printing is in anyway shape or form adam smiths definition of capitalism, but your final words are the final form of the red pill

Godspeed, I hope I find men like you out there when i go

>> No.52918007

>>52917981
>a standard, normal, and healthy cycle of society
when capitalism becomes corrupt. such as in its... late stages...
so... late stage capitalism.

>> No.52918018

>>52917893
I’m claiming this is the natural outcome of the fact that people in general are rational, but short-sighted, selfish and greedy.
People vote in their own self interest. When they cheered Bush on, it was because they were scared shitless. It wasn’t because the Larry Fink of the day happened to decide war was the best response, and he could just as well have decided that peace was the answer and people would just have gone along with it.
Your idea that people are just innocent puppets in the hands of the elite who remotely mind controls their every thought is much more far fetched, even though it occasionally does happen to some extent for some limited periods of time.
Face it. The sheeple are awake. You just don’t like it, but it’s true. The reason so much is shit, is that so many people are shit, not that some of those shitty people are circulated in a so called “elite”. Your romantic ideas about a people that are somehow separate from, and better than, the elite don’t hold water.

>> No.52918037

>>52918018
>people vote in their own self interest
doesn't matter because elections aren't real. you say the people are awake well clearly not if they think voting in their own self interest matters.
billions of people in a conspiracy and never once speaking of it, all of them unspoken keeping the secret is impossible. an elite few in control of the puppets paraded in front of us during elections season is a much easier conspiracy and actually probable

>> No.52918056

>>52918007
>s-s-such as in it's late stages waah
>w-wwaaaaah it worked beautifully for 100,000 years, b-b-but the last 100 years of dysgenics are S-S-SPECIAL FOR SOME REASON, BECAUSE I'M S..SPECIAL
>b-b-but also ego is bad, b-b-but I'm living in t-t-the end times, because I'm a WITTLE BABBYY waaaaaah
You fucking disgust me.
There is no such thing as 'late stage capitalism', because life IS inherently capitalist - there are no STAGES to capitalism - owning things is CAPITALIST, there is no such thing as "late stage property ownership".

There are periods in society when weakness dominates, and those are the end times of degenerated societies, it has nothing to do with capitalism.

>>52918002
God bless, and Godspeed, anon.
I can say the same about yourself.
Remember that we will prevail - have yourself a big family, become self-sufficient, and find like-minded people.

>> No.52918061

>>52918018
the people would become just as bad as the elite if they had the chance. its about the power, whoever gets it is ruined by it and must now live to feed the addiction. power is addictive, more so then hard drugs, they must feed the addiction. their minds become warped to justify anything for more control to get another hit of that buzz from millions of lifes hinging on your word, what a rush. that kind of power is beyond mans ability to handle, and when centralized the burden breaks whoever wields it.

the "so called elite" you think don't exist. is whoever is in power. running the fake democracies, the banks, the world economic forum, etc. people with more power then the richest kings of babylon. theyve gone insane.

>> No.52918078

>>52918037
> nobody speaking of it
It’s not that hard to get Americans to admit that what I said is basically what they did (get scared over 9/11, send Bush to Iraq, then regret it, voting in Obama as a way to show the world you didn’t want to be associated with the war anymore). Of course you can exaggerate and paint a strawman caricature of conspiracy, but that’s all I’m saying. Your actual objection to that is your claim that votes don’t matter (itself a claim easily ridiculed along the lines you are using against me, painting a picture of a tin foil hat), not your exaggerated version of what I claim.

>> No.52918087

>>52918056
I don’t know where you sorted me in your earlier roast, but for clarity I generally agree with this post.

>> No.52918115

>>52918078
you're the one that believes the masses, the majority, billions of people, are all working together in a secret conspiracy to elect obama so they could look good while they bomb people. and that everyone is secretly in on it but will never ever admit it. thats a double stack 100meter tall tinfoil hat.

>> No.52918121

>>52918061
> the people would become just as bad as the elite if they had the chance.
Ok now you’re making sense. Exactly. The thing you’re missing is that the people HAVE power. Sometimes a little, sometimes a lot, but boy do they get drunk off it. See the self appointed twitter police from the last few years. See the witch burnings. The elite going mad with power is just an extension of this, but most people only need to become president of their HOA to go mad with power. And sure, the elite has a lot of power, but the collective power of the masses is both greater and more dangerous and is what has caused most of our problems through the ages.

>> No.52918127

>>52911853
nobody cares /thread

>> No.52918173

>>52918115
It’s like you had never even been in a group of white people who had to suddenly in public come up with a reason that they’re firing the black teacher that absolutely isn’t racist (or these days, that isn’t trannyphobic)

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>>52917977
>socialism is when, like, everything is free

>>52918056
>capitalism is when, like, people own things

>> No.52918183

>>52918121
the masses have no collective power. their vote does nothing, it doesn't matter what puppet they're allowed to elect. twitter is run by algorithms and the globohomo system dictates those. it's all a smoke and mirrors show to provide the masses with the illusion that collectively they have a say. they don't. the witch burnings was ergot poisoning causing paranoid hallucinations combined with a powerful few getting off on the power of life and death and the idiot normies who can be led to believe anything by an authority figure

>> No.52918196

>>52918173
thats retarded and doesn't happen outside of your unmedicated fantasies

>> No.52918201

>>52918183
Right, this is the point we actually disagree on, where my view is decidedly less tin foil hatty than yours.

>> No.52918212

>>52918196
Ah. We are clearly from different planets.
What are white people like on your planet?

>> No.52918219

>>52918201
your view of the unspoken plan for billions of people to poison and murder themselves for... reasons, just because they're bad. billions. and that this is more plausible somehow then a much smaller number of people with actual power coordinating to gain even more power

>> No.52918240

>>52918212
you think white people will just get rid a teacher because the teacher is black, just because they're white and bad and they don't even need to coordinate doing it they'll just lie together to ban the darkie. that sounds normal and realistic to you, i think you're mind has been poisoned against the people by falling for the divisive media narrative that "muh white people" are inherently evil. a narrative installed in the education system by those who run it, a convenient belief to install as it moves blame away from people actually in charge

>> No.52918317

>>52918240
Buddy, I’m very, very white. Yes ww absolutely do that, or did at least, frankly nobody cares about your skin much unless you’re also wearing colors and are going to rob everyone.
These days it’s the trannies in schools we want to get rid of. And you should see us, we’re masterful, all going “um, er, well I’m of course not transophobic, but…” and everyone else nodding vigorously to back the non-transophobic speaker up. We can be like that. But I’m not kidding myself, I know your people, whoever they are, do it too, you’re just too autist to notice.

>> No.52918360

>>52918317
Well, except Canadians, of course. They try, but they get stuck in the “um, er,” stage, so they end up with monstrosities like that guy with the gigantic parody tits as teachers. lol. Silly Canadians.

>> No.52918370

>>52911860
Fpbp

>> No.52918584

>>52914705
Yep