/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.52821137]

Why is that people always try so hard to tax the "rich". For a businessman who produces jobs and doesn't have a family, shouldn't be paying taxes at all. Now breeders and other sort of people who don't really contribute to the economy should be taxed harder

[Anonymous No.52821155]

>>52821137
Because all of the companies we have in this system are producing air. Those rich people contribute to the ((economy)) but not to society. It's all one big pyramid scheme. If you do not understand what i'm saying, hang around longer eventually you'll get it

[Anonymous No.52821157]

>>52821137
>Why is that people always try so hard to tax the "rich".
because they are subhuman dead weight parasites that are worth less than nothing, and they see it as the path of least resistance to not starving to death on the street.

[Anonymous No.52821175]

>>52821137
Nobody should pay taxes, faggot bootlicker

[Anonymous No.52821179]

>>52821137
The vast majority of taxes are a meme that exist solely to limit the power of nonstate actors, that's why. The state literally has infinite finance, they don't even need the majority of our taxes to pay for shit, if they wanted to put every welfare nigger and spic to slave labor by the barrel of the gun they could do so easily and indeed many civilizations have done exactly this before but since we live under Liberalism now though welfare for votes and overseas sweat shops is the new alternative.

[Anonymous No.52821227]

>>52821137
just tax the top 0.01% with something like 50%. if you make 1b a year then who cares if half of that is gone

[Anonymous No.52821230]

>>52821137
>Breeders who don't contribute to the economy
>Breeeeeeeeders

Where do you think people come from anon. Please explain to me.

[Anonymous No.52821258]

>>52821137
Taxing the rich makes it seem like you care about the poor as it's meant to return to them, in reality it's not that different and the poor get the shaft but they don't rebel. Tax the poor too hard and their numbers will matter, unless if they have mentally impoverished enough to not be able to rebel in any practical way. However that's hard to pull of in democracies

[Anonymous No.52821264]

>>52821227
Why is theft okay because someone makes a certain amount of money? Why do you simp for the government?

[Anonymous No.52821266]

>>52821230
There are too many people anon
I'm not even an anti-human, depopulation type but you know there are too many goons just walking around. Problem is that goons tend to reproduce faster than the smarties due to that lack of forward planning ability.
As things get worse and worse, there will hopefully be conditions under which more goons die off and the more clever survive.

[Anonymous No.52821293]

>>52821227
Faggot commie. You know it's exactly with this logic that taxes started and then surprise surprise slippery slope happend.
Not to mention that now he can only invest 50% of what he could have. And on average the richest are the richest because they have more investing skills. So effectively you're taking money from the best money managers (and by extension best tax avoiders)
People like you should get disconnected from the server

[Anonymous No.52821304]

>>52821266
There isn't too many people. There is bad policies managing the population we have

[Anonymous No.52821314]

>>52821264
>>52821293
i'm not simping and i'm not a commie, i think taxes are theft. but if you really want to push the social welfare, then there's absolutely no reason for taxing the bottom 80% of the population, you'll just make them hate you and you'll get less that taxing 50% from a single 1b whale.

yes, i know the implication, but who cares if the businesses growth is halves? we get 2x more time before the singularity and jews lose money, i think it's a win-win scenario anyway

[Anonymous No.52821322]

>>52821137
I've been taxed extremely harshly all my life. I've contributed close to $300k total. I will never be able to buy a house from the fed.

[Anonymous No.52821345]

>>52821304
most people are worthless and are easily replaceable with robots or with a script. That's why we have so many shit jobs, to give those people some sense of accomplishment

[Anonymous No.52821355]

>>52821304
Then what would you suggest? Eugenics? That'd go great when a certain group of high-trust nepotistic people get a hold of it and get to pick and choose which parts of the populations over
What we need is a real black swan event, not like this gay covid shit, where people that didn't think ahead get skullfucked

[Anonymous No.52821393]

>>52821314
Read about the history of income and social taxes. It started as "were only gonna tax the rich" yet here we are. If only someone could have seen it coming...
The reason it's the bottom 80% paying is because my point about the rich being better with their tax avoidance.
Then remember that a social state is an evergrowing entity until it's inevitable collapse, and they will have to extend taxes to the poorer levels. It has been this way in antiquity and it will be this way in 2000 years
Your ignorance and naivety disgust me

[Anonymous No.52821403]

I literally do not give a fuck about the rich at all. Oh you produce jobs? You want a fucking reach around? Any taxes that don't come out of my pocket are good taxes.

[Anonymous No.52821410]

>>52821314
Social welfare is improved by taking government out of the equation. Health insurance and college tuition were not large expenses 100 years ago before the government started getting involved.

[Anonymous No.52821428]

>>52821393
you're wrong

[Anonymous No.52821446]

>>52821355
First, there isn't a global solution. It depends on the country/region and it's people. Obviously Africa requires different changes than Europe. You won't convince me there's too much Europeans. But I think there is too much Africans because they have been blessed with manna falling from the western sky and have yet to adjust.
Do not feed wild animals because you will disrupt the ecosystem also applies to humans
Medical tech also saved too much retards that should have died but overall there isn't too much humans. We can hope some will learn from their mistakes
Don't worry some big black swan will eventually happen, even though it might take centuries.
There isn't a simple solution, technology progress has been so great that we need to adjust and it takes generations while tech progresses even faster, but I bet it will stagnate or even go back at some point, just don't know when

[Anonymous No.52821461]

>>52821345
That's a AI and robotics meme that isn't true. We're still far from replacing physical jobs. The only ones that can get replaced are paper pushers and all sort of office work, but street sweepers are safe for many years to come

[Anonymous No.52821475]

>>52821428
About what part?

[Anonymous No.52821506]

>>52821461
sure, but most jobs are office jobs. There is still a big chunk of people who are worthless

[Anonymous No.52821541]

>>52821314
You get less tax taxing a billionaire it's basic economics. The billionaire isn't gonna cash spend a billion dollars of its stock, because it doesn't need it to buy even a $100m dollar home. However, if you distribute it for people who need the money, they're going to spending it, increasing inflation making the money worth less until you've basically done nothing. If you tax the income, you have much less money. If you tax from everyone, those people spend less and it kind of evens out, that's why the system survives. Since the goyim are perfectly ok with this because it supports minorities, society works like this.

It will only change if economics gets even worse.

[Anonymous No.52821546]

>>52821506
If we switched their jobs to physical jobs we wouldn't need millions of immigrants to fill in those, while having more money to spend on those jobs instead of putting it in useless office stuff. That's why it comes to bad policies, which stem partly from culture and narratives like physical jobs are for retards and losers which is not true

[Anonymous No.52821589]

>>52821546
I don't even think we will need that many people in physical jobs, now pretty much everything is done by machinery, the sectors that need more workers are office and service which is also another hyper inflated garbage due to having so many people and long hours of work

[Anonymous No.52821615]

>>52821137
>Taxes, Mandatory payments collected from individuals and corporations by a government entity to fund central bank liabilities.
fify

[Anonymous No.52821621]

>>52821137
No you're a complete faggot
Nobody should be taxed
>bu-but muh roads??
Read a fucking book

[Anonymous No.52821662]

>>52821589
Why are those sectors in shortage and need immigration? Its not even that much yet all available workforce sits in offices.
Office workers creating an environment where they actually need more people while having better tech is crazy. We need some sort of gigacollapse to purge this fast or we will have to wait for generations to adjust. No easy solutions but a good start would be to stop subsidizing and encouraging useless degrees and promoting and incentivizing trades

[Anonymous No.52821738]

>>52821662
I never mentioned immigration and people nowadays can't even make their own food and need some wagie to make them for them

[Anonymous No.52821768]

nobody should be taxed at all

[Anonymous No.52821787]

>>52821738
I am mentioning it because it's the main economics rationale along needing constant growth.
See we agree all small things that used to be done by housewives or people just DIY their homes now requires to hire someone because people became even more retarded and dependant. Changing light switches to smart lights switches is a job while its extremely easy. And the more physical small things will have a digital aspect to it the more people we need to manage those. And those people will need a bit more skill than previously because it's not only changing a switch but also connecting it to an app or remote