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5280906 No.5280906 [Reply] [Original]

If your not pro-capitalism then why are you on /biz/?

>> No.5280957

>>5280906
Accruing funds for the revolution. Capitalists will sell us the rope we will hang them with.

>> No.5281003

>>5280906
>implying crypto isn’t the death of capitalism by finally sundering the currency/capital divide
>implying permanent records and anonymous transactions aren’t the perfect way to simultaneously monitor the state’s handling of capital and neuter its policing of it.
>implying Marx didn’t predict crypto

>> No.5281099

>>5281003
>implying Marx isn't Satoshi Nakamoto

>> No.5281166

>>5281099
Sweet Mary mother of God

>> No.5281359

>>5280906
If you can't beat em, join em

>> No.5281387

Because unrestrained capitalism causes really bad shit to happen. Properly regulated capitalism is where it's at

>> No.5281421

FUCK YOU TEXAS

>> No.5281434
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>>5281387
>>5280957
>>5281003
WE

>> No.5281617

>>5281003
>Against state control of capital
>Communist

>> No.5281675

>>5281617
Not all communists are Stalinists friend

>> No.5281760

>>5280906
I have to survive somehow

>> No.5281828

>>5281675
How exactly would crypto fix the wealth divide? I can still own more bitcoins than 99% of society hypothetically

>> No.5281835

I'M PICKLE RICK. REE

>> No.5281932

>>5280957
Relax anon, those soymilk lattes aren't going to make themselves.

>> No.5281953

>>5281828
If you own 99% of bitcoins then there are less and less people that will accept Bitcoin as a store of value. If that level of monopoly occurs the public at large will just shift into alt-coins. It’s not Bitcoin that’s anti-capitalist, it’s crypto as a whole.

>> No.5281974

>>5280906
But I am pro capitalism, anon.

>> No.5281980

>>5281835
unexpected kek

>> No.5282007

Anti-capitalism isn't a lifestyle you fucking faggot. Engels owned a factory

>> No.5282072

>>5282007
>if it produces goods it’s capitalism

Anon, I...

>> No.5282167

>>5280906
I'm a NatCap. Competition is great within your country but I don't support completely open markets across borders with other countries when it hurts your own. Trade war is fine. And we still have to gas the Jews.

>> No.5282287

>>5282072
What the fuck are you talking about? Private ownership of the means of production is indeed a feature of capitalism. I'll quote here from the Simple English version of Wikipedia so you understand:

>Capitalism is an economic system. In it the government plays a secondary role. People and companies make most of the decisions, and own most of the property. Goods are usually made by companies and sold for profit. The means of production are largely or entirely privately owned (by individuals or companies) and operated for profit.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism

>> No.5282378

>>5282287
Wait, are you implying that communism can be practiced under capitalism? You do realize Engels was a theorist and not some magical figure that oozed communism out of every pore of his body right?

Next you’ll tell me Marx was capitalist because he owned a house at one point.

>> No.5282515

>>5282378
Communism can't be "practiced", dummy. Communism is the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. Engels was himself a capitalist, meaning someone who privately owns a means of production. Capitalism isn't an ideology and a "capitalist" isn't someone who believes in capitalism

>> No.5282630

>>5281617
>he thinks communism is synonymous with statism
you're a burger aren't you

>> No.5282664

>>5282515
>Communism is the real movement which abolishes the present state of things.
This is the worst definition you could use for a movement. Just recognize that it's literal shit. It could be ANYTHING that "abolishes" the present state of things, it's an old definition and you shouldn't use it.

>> No.5282706

>>5280906
>durrrrr

cause everyone needs money you dimwit

>> No.5282723

>>5282515
Communism is the end goal of revolution, not the revolution itself.

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>>5282664
Omg what are u even doing here?

Government/deep state own the fed, the fed is the means of production. We're already stuck in your fucking utopia, that's what we're killing now via btc/alts.

You really are uninformed and confused about how economics and finance works, touting more government to solve government created issues is like a fat cunt going to McDonald's to start a healthy diet.

>> No.5282808

>>5282664
If you care to understand what Marx meant by that statement read this:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/german-ideology/ch01a.htm

>Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence.

>> No.5282858

>>5280906
this shit just started getting shilled here the other day. who would have anything to gain from this blatant shilling besides the owner? fuck off cocksucker go eat shit

>> No.5282859

>>5282723
Are you a reactionary or some kind of reddit Marxist? I can't tell what pile of shit you've been eating from

>> No.5282888

>>5282760
>”we’re already living in communism”
>all communism is statism
>the federal government owning the means of production is communism

Jesus Christ, McCarthy come back from the grave over here

>> No.5282918

>>5282760
what? I'm not a communist, you quoted the wrong anon

>> No.5282983

>>5282859
Communism is the result of a dialectical movement away from capitalism. Marx himself said that it would come after a period of capitalism in order to establish the infrastructure necessary for a truly communist society. You’re the deluded guy who thinks all communists are tankers.

>> No.5283111

>>5282983
Maybe the reason we're not understanding each other is that you don't realize I'm a Marxist

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>>5280957
>Capitalists will sell us the rope we will hang them with.

It's called shorting, faggot.

>> No.5283246

>>5282918
My bad, I did

>>5282888
Trips confirm commies are going to be gassed

>> No.5283425

>>5282167
Kill yourself nazi larper. Your politics is a meme. Natsoc or natcap is a meme. All the "national socialism" is, is theft. They stole from the Jews.

>> No.5283484

>>5283425
Lol gtfo chosenite, cryptos will be the downfall of your kind. No more fractional reserve lending scams for you Schlomo.

>> No.5283588

>>5280957
>ID: a2Uj/ewS
>j/ewS
Every. Fucking. Time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLUr3AHZihU

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>>5281003
>ancap tech is marxist

how delusional are you. did ark overload your brain or something?

>>5281675
oh yes, they are. totalitarianism is a direct result of the ideology. it's written between the lines.

>>5281760
then you shouldn't oppose capitalism.

>>5282167
you're an idiot who believe it's better to pay an unnecessary premium on products so your compatriots can waste their time producing something they could get cheaper somewhere else.

>>5282287
everything becomes means of production in the hand of a creative man. that expression is utter nonsense. get your means of production in the hardware store like everyone else.

>>5282723
the end goal of every revolution is blood shed. even among chimpanzees 80% of 'the revolutionaries' (and their kin) die within ten years after a successful revolution.

>>5283111
>future helicopter passangers of america

>> No.5283605

>>5283484
I'm not a Jew but "national socialism" is literally violence and it's nigger tier.
BTC will never be nazi. BTC is peaceful. If you wanna be a nazi go out with your guns and do what you glorify.
Crypto will flip the wealth without your memes and your trump

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>>5280906
>your
Why are is everyone from /pol/ retarded?

>> No.5283771

>tfw took Ghost's advice on Qtum

>> No.5283829

>>5283591
And you're a small-souled bugman who will never hold hands with his waifu.

>> No.5283890

>>5283605
You don't understand fuck-all about anything do you. You should research the inter-war period and what went down then in Europe. Might learn some interesting tidbits.

>> No.5284040

Capitalism allows people to succeed.

For a communist or socialist thing you're just showing up to work to keep the wheel turning and you have a poor quality of life you can't improve

>> No.5284060

>>5283829
>small-souled bugman

what is this even supposed to mean? go back into your cave you kissless virgin.

>> No.5284081

>>5280957
kys you wristlet commie faggot

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>>5284060
http://small-souled-bugman.info/

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>>5284126
tldr?

>> No.5284848

>>5280906
I'm just stopping by to gawk at the apex of human filth before the inevitable collapse.