Chainlink V1 staking is 7 years away at BARE MINIMUM

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Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:02:29 2022 No.52711238 [Reply] [Original]

Chainlink V1 staking is 7 years away at BARE MINIMUM

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:06:10 2022 No.52711284 probably the most clever slow rug in all of crypto. just 2 more years. just hang in there while sergey dumps for a few hundred million dollars every year

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:07:56 2022 No.52711309 File: 43 KB, 640x640, 1654747224546.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] look at his head lmao

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:10:47 2022 No.52711333 >>52711238 josh is mincing words like the phenotype he looks like is great at. the original blog said the 1-2 year lockup was the timeline for v1.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:11:19 2022 No.52711344 >>52711238 You’re asking the wrong person, he’s just a community advocate and maybe the most retarded one of them. Do you actually think he has insider info about this shit

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:15:41 2022 No.52711399

i’ve held since link appeared on etherdelta and i think you need to be pants on head retarded to lock your link up for 1-2 years after everything we have seen this past year. we will get another scam pump and i will finally sell and be free from sir big mac while you cucks that staked will be smashing the unstake button only for a message that reads no refunds appears.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:16:21 2022 No.52711406 >>52711238 Josh is such a fucking prick

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:16:22 2022 No.52711407 >>52711238 Is Josh the new Link lolcow? That's his 2nd time being a smug retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:21:01 2022 No.52711455 josh jewenoff is just a discord janny give him a break he has no actual infos either the real kingpin is named rory plant he's the one who makes up the roadmap and decides everything

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:24:40 2022 No.52711500 >by the time you can unstake the next bullrun will be over and you will be stuck in another bear market

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:25:26 2022 No.52711508

>>52711333
looking at the original blogpost, they do not actually say v1 in 12-24 months, they very cleverly use the phrase: a staking "version"

>Research and development is already underway for a Staking version featuring migrations and unlocking, which is tentatively planned for release approximately 12 to 24 months after the launch of v0.1.

Just as scammy

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:28:05 2022 No.52711539 >>52711238 Each version will come out exponentially faster then the last. 0.1 took 5 years, 0.2 will take 1 year, 0.3 will take 2 months and 0.4-1.0 will probably also take 2 months each. So my guess is 2.5 years from now until 1.0 is complete

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:31:11 2022 No.52711569
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>>52711539
They just started researching v1.0. It takes at least four to five years to research something. The rule of thumb is you need 10,000 hours to become an expert on something.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:32:12 2022 No.52711579

>>52711508
yea i distinctly remember 1-2 years lock up for next iteration of staking which was roadmapped to be v1. obviously josh is saying "dur they didn't specifically say it" as a semantics game. sbf didn't dump user funds, that was alameda(which i own) hehe

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:32:18 2022 No.52711581 >>52711399 Update your script, the lock-up has been shortened to 9-12 months

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:34:00 2022 No.52711609 >>52711581 >FAgt ID it's over

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:34:17 2022 No.52711618 >>52711581 still way too long in an industry like crypto

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:34:48 2022 No.52711627 >>52711238 No. Fucking no. Stop freading fucking fud you motherfuckers you! There is no hard dates because they need to be agile! This is going to change the entire face of Crypto! And this motherfucker right here, you talking about timelines.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:36:12 2022 No.52711646 >>52711618 Maybe for you, I was planning on holding my LINK for longer than 1 yearm0dp8

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:37:46 2022 No.52711669 >>52711646 ah a new link holder. let me fill you in kid. only pain awaits you

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:38:37 2022 No.52711681 >>52711539 source: your ass

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:40:29 2022 No.52711708 >>52711238 projects like novacoin.finance have staking already. dev from stonks. launchpad also coming up next week and building an own blockchain. link is a pnd

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:41:01 2022 No.52711721 Imagine literally winning the lottery and then crying and complaining about it because you have to wait 2 years to claim your winnings. That's what this is right here. You gonna win the lottery and you bitching about it? For reals?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:41:26 2022 No.52711727 >>52711669 I've held since 2018. I believe the worst of the pain has passed these last 2 years. If you don't think that then you must be a masochist to continue holding

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:41:40 2022 No.52711733 >>52711721 every nulinker simp retard needs to be shot on sight.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:47:01 2022 No.52711807

>>52711721
Except now imagine that when you go to cash in the “winning” ticket, you hand said ticket to the guy behind the counter and he just looks at you confused. You ask whats the problem, he points at your ticket. Its actually a coupon for a big mac at mcdonalds. It all hits you. Holy shit I bet my whole life on a made up internet money cult you say, as you tie the noose…

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:49:35 2022 No.52711844
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>>52711721
Remember this meme?
this was ultimate delusion of all marines.
It is coming to fruition and it's going to happen. They called us retards, since 2017.
What do no linkers have left? just to bitch about it and troll to no end tat nobody is steaking.
I wonder how many weak hands will fall for this stupid troll...

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:50:17 2022 No.52711857 >>52711238 Cool, guess I’ll chill for 7 years, staking everything I can.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:51:23 2022 No.52711872
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>>52711238
It's over bros, staking is coming to Chainlink very soon and the price will go to $1000. Linkies will inherit the world and have a huge stake in the New World Economy. We just couldn't stop them from making it and now we will be their slaves. Ii-i-it's over..

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:51:50 2022 No.52711877 >>52711857 until v1 staking its not actual staking. its some bullshit rewards program in which you may or may not even receive your rewards

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>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:57:26 2022 No.52711955 >>52711844 LMAO, It’s actually worst than 1000 to $7

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:11:30 2022 No.52712108 >>52711238 LINK wont exist in 7 years.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:12:41 2022 No.52712127 >>52711877 Cool guess I’ll commit the maximum possible number of LINK to the bullshit rewards program, starting with 7k in just a few days.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:14:58 2022 No.52712145

>>52711872
No, there is hope. A band of god tier Bulgarian traders, gypsies from the darkest forests of Romania, are outcompeting the entire world by never missing a swing trade, selling every top and buying every bottom. These enlightened figures will end up with all the money in the world economy AND all the link, so we can look forward to the dawn of aquarius up in this bitch in notime.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:39:54 2022 No.52712385
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>>52712145
Yeah I still remember that 50% Bancor haircut.
Real gods of risk management KEK
Might as well just burn away all their token and send it to 0x0.
That would prevent them from losing more money through every one of their actions.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:49:32 2022 No.52712468 >>52711238 If Chainlink works well right now why does it need staking?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:53:34 2022 No.52712512 File: 104 KB, 500x379, 1630333776998.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i love getting gaslit by unironical chainlink labs employees give me an exit pump asap

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:55:36 2022 No.52712534 >>52712512 5 years of absolute waste. They didn’t even look into staking this whole time.

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Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:02:02 2022 No.52713101

>>52712803
holy shit the team is legit gaslighting us now. sergey very clearly announced that staking, CCIP, and enterprise abstraction layer were launching in 2022. my guess is their whole plan to get us to sell with awful price action + psyops didn't work so they're now pivoting to some other method that also won't work.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:04:38 2022 No.52713136 >>52713101 it just seems like josh is a newfag who takes his position too seriously.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:04:44 2022 No.52713137 Wtf you faggot fudders are now harrassing actual Chainlink employees? Don't you have anything better to do with your life?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:06:21 2022 No.52713153 while bullish that fud has been reduced to these levels, it's also pretty sad

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:46:41 2022 No.52713546

>>52713137
What are you talking about fudding? Chainlink hasn't released CCIP nor provided any proof of an abstraction layer for enterprises.

Sergey specifically lined that out in the "Future of Chainlink" video https://youtu.be/YShbzR7mlog
57:40.

How long before this video gets scrubbed down the memory hole and they gas light us into believing it never existed?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:59:09 2022 No.52713681 >>52711238 Why does the 0.0 number matter?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:00:41 2022 No.52713698 >>52711238 Starting a sentence with the word "so" is obnoxious

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:07:54 2022 No.52713762 File: 42 KB, 362x352, 20221128_095300.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52711508 CL sure are experts at pilpul.. >you "may" get some build rewards from staking

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:10:33 2022 No.52713792 >>52711238 Here's some info. No one except those in Chainlink's inner circle know anything about releases.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:11:40 2022 No.52713797 >>52713792 Nothing he said contradicted anything found in their press release on their blog. Dumb simp nigger.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:14:04 2022 No.52713821 >>52711844 Ill take $50 at this point. And then im gone from this dumpster fire.. Staking in crypto is completely worthless if it crashes -90% every couple years. You would have to stake 20 years just to beat ONE bear market year lmaooooo

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:14:16 2022 No.52713824 >>52713797 I'm saying anyone besides the core engineering and product dev team have absolutely no clue about the specifics or timeline until a week or two away. But keep getting assblasted over something we have no control over.

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:16:03 2022 No.52713843
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>>52712803
That guy is such a cunt.
So pompous and conceited, yet has nothing to be proud of.
He’s a sappy little pawn working for a fucking crypto team as a discord mod.
Talk about lowest of the low.

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:20:42 2022 No.52713880

>>52713824
That's just as much part of the problem. It absolves them of all accountability when they're unable to deliver products and features.

They have increased their headcount massively and things seems to be getting slower. How does that make sense? The network is not even sustainable as a whole by its own fee generation. It's all completely sustained by holders propping it up. And they want to treat you like a pariah for asking questions

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:29:37 2022 No.52713937 >>52713824 If by your own implication they have retards writing press releases that can't be relied on accurately represent release dates then they are worse off then I even though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:36:23 2022 No.52713987 >>52711309 Oy vey! it's not done yet!!!!!!!!

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:54:46 2022 No.52714137

>>52713546
>Let's ignore everything else about the project and fixate on this one time Sergey mentioned something in a video when the year isn't even over yet and staking is about to be released probably with a bunch of new announcements
Gee I should sell huh?

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:00:08 2022 No.52714185

>>52714137
There's 3 4 other examples I could give but this seems sufficient to stump the dick riders like you who swallow whatever sergey shoots down your throat. And if everything is so good under the hood of chainlink labs why not make it more transparent? You are losing the plot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:02:34 2022 No.52714199 >>52714185 You sound like a petulant kid upset his latest video game got delayed

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:12:35 2022 No.52714273
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>>52713762
How many times is this going to be posted? Why do you want the build tokens anyways? You fudders said they're scams but now you're saying you want them? Sounds like you want them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:14:45 2022 No.52714284 >>52714137 >duuuuuuuude it was all a heckin SMOKESCREEN, my bredddddkrumbbbhbz indicate segrat releases soon marinesthhhh

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:20:36 2022 No.52714346 >>52714199 you've been waiting 5 years to be told that you need to wait 2 more years for v0.2

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:20:50 2022 No.52714348
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>>52711238
DetectiveAnon was right and none of you bagholders listened to him. He told you all like 3 years ago at least LMAO.

People thought staking was around the corner in 2020. These are smart contracts we're talking about. Doesn't take 8 years to write a fucking Solidity contract. Chainlink is a slow rug, always has been.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:21:44 2022 No.52714351 >>52714199 Buck broken

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:21:48 2022 No.52714352 >>52714199 Probably be pissed if I have to prepaid a video game that takes 7 years

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:22:11 2022 No.52714358 >>52711309 Conehead ass nigger

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:23:54 2022 No.52714366

>>52714352
>THESE FUCKING DEVS CANT MAKE A GOOD GAME TO SAVE THEIR LIFE THESE LEVELS ARE SHIT THE HIT REGISTRATION IS TERRIBLE I LAG EVERY TKME MOM WATCHES NETFLIX AND I FJCKING HATE THIS GAME ITS SO SHIT FUCK THE DEVS AND FUCK ANYKNW WHO LIKES IT RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:24:19 2022 No.52714371 >>52711581 >>52711646 >>52711727 Bagholder fag, go suck a dick

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:24:31 2022 No.52714372 >>52711238 Time doesn't matter when you're never selling.

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:24:36 2022 No.52714374

>>52714199
People like you follow the exact same playbook kek. There’s no actual argument, so you just resort to insults or other incoherent bullshit. Chainlink has been given immense amounts of goodwill and patience from the community. It is not unreasonable to ask questions after 5 years, hundreds of millions (if not billions of dollars) raised in capital and huge headcount growth from top tech companies and we’re still even close to having the core function of Chainlink being delivered. There are 2 main scenarios to consider, both of them are bad:
>Chainlink has been working on their staking implementation since they release white paper 2 a year and a half ago, and the scope of v0.1 is all they’ve managed to deliver so far
>Chainlink only starting working on staking when their roadmap for staking was released a few months back
The first one is deeply concerning. What on earth are they doing for things to be taking this long? Muh smart contract development is a bullshit, cop out excuse. We’re dealing with sheer incompetence if this is what they’ve managed to achieve in over a year and a half of development. The second option, what on earth have they been doing this whole time? What have the developers at Chainlink been doing up until very recently? None of this has made any sense and anytime we ask questions we’re dealing with delusional retards who have their head in the sand and/or CL ambassadors doing damage control. The only person/team at Chainlink that actually seems to do work is Dahlia’s team and the people working on DECO. Seems like everyone else is doing nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:25:42 2022 No.52714382 >>52714284 What's something you did this week to improve your life and make yourself happier?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:25:49 2022 No.52714383 >>52714374 Anon I agree they should have buffed the M16 fucking navy seals use that gun irl it shouldn't be unusable

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:26:30 2022 No.52714388 >>52711344 /thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:27:05 2022 No.52714392 >>52711681 >2017-2022=5 years for 0.1 >2022-2023=1 year for 0.2 (what Chainlink says) this is the source you faggot, this represents a 500% decrease in time between each versions release.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:27:30 2022 No.52714396 >>52714366 Except with a prepaid game I don’t need to pay or deal with taxes and not wait a fucking decade with my money locked up. You sound like a manchild

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:28:04 2022 No.52714400
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60k link here i feel bad for some of you retards so i'll give the inside scoop. you don't have to wait 7 more years, end of 2025 all features will be implemented.

ama except how i know this

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:28:36 2022 No.52714405 at this point I'm just praying we get a final exit pump from whales before this ponzi collapses completely

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:28:50 2022 No.52714408 File: 464 KB, 1140x862, gon.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52714374 Maybe we need to put Elon in charge so he can fire 75% of the staff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:29:21 2022 No.52714413 >>52714392 god damn you are stupid

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:29:51 2022 No.52714416 >>52714396 You can sell right now. Video games your money is gone. You're actually worse than the crying kids.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:31:42 2022 No.52714433 >>52714383 >>52714366 >>52714416 god damn you are stupid

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:34:33 2022 No.52714453 >>52714433 My play style is just different to yours

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:35:53 2022 No.52714462 >>52714382 >duuuuuuuuuude if you dont join our cult it MUST mean your life is off Ill take projection for $700 Alex. Youre fat and/or wire then. I guess what im saying is, id ragdoll you, el cucko

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:36:05 2022 No.52714463 >>52714413 >10 posts by this id Seethe harder mossad kike fud agent. Never selling my Chainlink.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:38:37 2022 No.52714482 >>52714462 >duuuuude if you duuuude post over 100x a week then things probably aren't going that great for you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:38:53 2022 No.52714483 >>52714463 >duuuuuuuude you cant post “x” amount of times or it invalidates your points >broooooo i i heldeded my bags down 90% and somehow t t that owned you, r r right guysthh??

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:43:02 2022 No.52714511 >>52714483 Michael?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:46:27 2022 No.52714534 >>52714400 how long do you think it will take till the chainlink network is generating $100 billion in revenue

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:21:36 2022 No.52714761 >>52714511 Josh?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:39:26 2022 No.52714889 >>52714761 Tim?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:51:41 2022 No.52715000 >>52714273 The current price (6 years later) is 7.49 No further comment needed

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 08:02:14 2022 No.52716633 >>52712468 To secure higher value contracts. CCIP Swift is a trillion dollar value transfer, IR needs more security despite CL nodes never failing yet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 08:04:39 2022 No.52716642 actually chuds its unironically 10-100 years away gotta grow the network ORGANICALLY better luck next life

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 08:21:51 2022 No.52716734 >>52711539 >it just will be faster because it will ok lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 09:40:19 2022 No.52717137 File: 67 KB, 756x598, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52713546 Downloaded it. Also >Cayman It should have set off alarms.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 09:41:31 2022 No.52717142 >>52717137 Lol with the recent ftx, yea this shit does look pretty suspicious now

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 09:42:25 2022 No.52717147 >>52711284 this t. etherdelta buyer who never sold

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 09:50:30 2022 No.52717190

>>52717142
FTX has shown us no prominent figure is immune to being Madoff'd again.
You can forget about Schmidt and co. being a seal of approval.
I'm liking the new narrative of /biz/raeli saying that link is partaking in exactly what they made out to be a bug in the system : "just trust us" promises.
Poetic.

Also Yes. I am spreading FUD.
Telling us to watch an opaque GitHub without devcalls or anything isn't an answer.
Been a holder since ICO.

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 09:53:44 2022 No.52717208

>>52717190
Also now that the dust has settled with the Schmidt interview, I will reiterate that he probably got involved at first because of his interest, Michelle Ritter, and her firm Steel Perlot that happens to invest in innovative fintechs.
Doesn't mean he's not interested now, but that's not of his own.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 09:56:44 2022 No.52717225 helo sers am link og hold 7 years buy ico many coins here listen am no staking ok link coin bad i sell all 59 dolars 3 years ago sers

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 10:00:34 2022 No.52717258 >>52717225 >ESL LabsLinkChain detected

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 12:30:13 2022 No.52717999 >>52714400 20k here myself. Will the prophecy come true? Will we see 81k 2026 become a reality? Was time travel anon real?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 12:56:42 2022 No.52718151 >>52714400 When ath?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 13:14:08 2022 No.52718289 literally every crypto up until this point is essentially a scam except bitcoin

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 13:25:45 2022 No.52718367 >>52718289 bitcoin is a scam as well. worthless network too slow for transactions too centralized to be secure too expensive to be viable

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 13:32:27 2022 No.52718407

its interesting how the sentiment of the board shifted notably very recently
we have had years of masterly crafted anon tier fud that was optimized to mislead the midwit, it was a work of art
now we get paid non anon CL ambassadors in here pumping the project and it glows so hard in the dark its ridiculous: its the same playbook over and over again meaningless personal insults without making any single point
confront them and force them to insult in anon style namely hitting a protected class, put anyone of the CL ambs for the ultimatum to post a merchant or tranny meme
you see all anons dont give a fuck about protected classes they will have a reaction folder full of those, but the paid CL employees cant do that lol

>>52714374
the only logical conclusion is that the team is deliberately taking its own investment
we always knew the tech wasnt the limiting factor but adoption network growth was, so with the current disaster in both crypto and trad markets enterprise adoption has presumably cratered quite bad
hence sergey must delay everything so the price doesnt get too high for enterprises to buy in
this means that we will skip out the entire next crypto macro cycle and he will launch somewhere eoy 2026 or early 2027 after the next bearmarket
this also means >>52714400 is full of shit sergey will never launch at the height of the next bear

i am selling the next pump and going all in eth only to buy back in during the bear bottom of 2026
watch the screeching replies to this post: watch none of them dismiss any arguments and force them to tranny post

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 13:35:27 2022 No.52718422

>>52718407
>we always knew the tech wasnt the limiting factor

you've waited 5 years to be told 2 more years MAYBE for v0.2
>hence sergey must delay everything so the price doesnt get too high for enterprises to buy in
for 5 years linkniggers have been talking about 18 decimal places. and now this?

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 13:35:43 2022 No.52718426

>>52718367
bitcoin existed before there was a network for it, it has the most honest rollout, and most importantly, it does what it says it's going to do. every other shitcoin in the whole cryptosphere promises pie in the sky tech and that never comes to fruition

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 13:36:45 2022 No.52718432 >>52718426 market*** not network

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 13:37:31 2022 No.52718436

>>52718422
5 years ago nobody expected the double massacre of the coof lockdowns and the fed retardation aferwards that is destroying the entire world economy
cant really blame sergey for this as most of the s&p 500 and the entirety of the eu is now rekt

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 13:41:35 2022 No.52718459 >>52714463 >you are posting >ON A DISCUSSION BOARD?! the nerve.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 13:42:18 2022 No.52718465 >>52718436 Oh yeah i forgot covid prevented access to computers. Yes THATS why staking was never created in 5 years.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 13:48:52 2022 No.52718504 >>52718436 Retard these events don’t affect development whatsoever lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 13:49:03 2022 No.52718505 >>52718465 now you are being deliberately obtuse

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 13:49:15 2022 No.52718507

>>52718436
you actually can blame sergey. the never giving hard dates meme was him being slimey jew with his words so he could kick the promose can down the road. Do you think it was on accident that the team sold after bad news. They are very aware of what people are going to do once they found out the project is going to be getting out of beta after ten years.

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 14:01:06 2022 No.52718580

>>52718505
How exactly do you explain that they released white paper 2.0 in April 2021 and they've delivered absolutely nothing in that paper since then? How is it possible that it's been 20 months since they put out white paper 2.0 and we're getting a version of staking that doesn't contain any of the key features of staking in white paper 2.0? Just what on earth have they been doing for the last 20 months? How is it possible that after all this time we're only getting the crap that's being included in v0.1? There's nothing sophisticated about v0.1, it's a contract where people will send their tokens, and Sergey claims he'll give us ~5% APY and maybe he'll let us take back our tokens and rewards in 9-12 months. I mean are you kidding me? How is this even possible? We clearly aren't getting the full story on what's happening, because something has clearly gone very wrong with the development of staking because none of this makes any sense.

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 14:06:17 2022 No.52718620

>>52718580
i said that already in my first post
yes something has gone horribly wrong and thats real enterprises pulling out due to the trad market massacre
the delays have nothing to do with coding or anything tech related, its about adoption
so only when sentiment grows again will sergey release his tech stack, which seems to be after next crypto cycle so invest accordingly

whitepapers and press releases or ambs bullshit is utterly meaningless the real moves are all closed door meetings between serg and the real big boys and we will never hear about those

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 14:13:51 2022 No.52718678 >>52718620 this take is okay in 2017-2020 its been six years bro. thats not an excuse anymore

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 14:16:14 2022 No.52718697 >>52718678 again are you being deliberately obtuse i didnt say its an excuse it said its a disaster for the project and these couple of unforeseeable events happened between 2020 and now

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 14:19:17 2022 No.52718715 >>52718697 do you know how i know you';re from CLL?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 14:21:41 2022 No.52718730 >>52718715 read my original post you moron >>52718407 you think this is something an ambs would want to spread

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 14:22:17 2022 No.52718735

>>52718697
Are you saying that they kept developing and are possibly even finished taking into account the amount of time they had, they just aren't releasing anything because of market conditions? That's hard to believe since all their Code is on GitHub. It just looks like they did barely anything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 14:26:04 2022 No.52718760 >>52711857 >Cool, guess I’ll chill for 7 years, Hope you like your job. Some of us dont though and want to leave wagiedom before we die of old age.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 14:28:38 2022 No.52718776 >>52718730 you're job is to change sentiment you can say whatever you want to do that. you normie faggot fucking internes will never fit in here

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 14:34:07 2022 No.52718814

>>52718735
yes, is it really such a hard point to understand
the code isnt all that complicated, the testing for failure is tho
they have been ready for quite a while, but this project doesnt run on pure technical acheivement its all about the networking with real users of their product and protip investor arent
also they patent their stuff they really dont put everything on github

>>52718776
now you are being a total idiot what part of the sentiment did i shift
i specifically warned anons that link will get left behind for another cycle and we are being swamped by ambs how the fuck i am doing CLL a favor here

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 14:37:09 2022 No.52718829 >>52711238 More time for me to stack.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 14:37:21 2022 No.52718832 >>52711721 Sorry ChainlinkFag.eth, we ain't buying your bags

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 14:47:27 2022 No.52718923

>>52718814
>they have been ready for quite a while, but this project doesnt run on pure technical acheivement its all about the networking with real users of their product and protip investor arent
>also they patent their stuff they really dont put everything on github

you can not use this excuse anymore after six years. Hes been to every conference for six years. hes been networking for six years. he has BSN onboard. What the fuck has he shipped in that time? From what it looks like they are just getting started with working on the core feature and have been creating reasons to use the network

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 14:50:20 2022 No.52718952 >>52718923 what part of this is apparently so hard to understand i am not using it as an excuse, i am telling you this is why and its a total disaster, expect shit like this for another 5 years minimum while the rest moons again

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 14:53:02 2022 No.52718972 >>52718952 yah my reading comprehension is shit because im so mad/disappointed in this whole thing

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 14:53:54 2022 No.52718979 >>52718505 some qnt-tier excuse making desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 14:55:21 2022 No.52718997 >>52718620 >the delays have nothing to do with coding or anything tech related just wait 2 years for a withdraw function to be built

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 14:58:41 2022 No.52719019 >>52718814 >they have been ready for quite a while Imaging implying they have 400 employees idling around waiting for "adoption" and considering this a good thing.

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 15:05:55 2022 No.52719075

>>52718972
i get it anon, i was too now i already progressed to depression
the pain is fucking real

>>52719019
i have now said it several times this is an absolute disaster, how do retards like yourself keep coming back making this pants on head retarded post

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 15:10:39 2022 No.52719110 >>52711284 >slow rug unironically this. Sergey is going to dump 50m tokens in 2023 while stakers can't even claim rewards. the only reason for this is that CL can get the most for the tokens they dump

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 15:21:39 2022 No.52719202 >>52719075 It just seems like self-sabotage. If it's ready I don't see why they have to fucking wait any longer at this point. Isn't now a good time to release things and test when things are relatively "quiet" in the market?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 15:25:59 2022 No.52719234 >>52711284 We need a new term for Sergey's shenanigans, I understand rug, flywheel and ponzi but what he is doing is special. Cheeseburgler Pied Piper fuckover isn't catchy.

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 15:28:47 2022 No.52719257

OG linkers are the biggest faggots on biz so I'm very glad they've suffered tremendously over the last few years

meanwhile I was able to pick up a suicide stack at $5 without needing to hold through a 93% drawdown and I don't care if I need to wait years to realize the full LINK vision. Funny to see OG's cry and shit themselves just like they shit up this board for so long. This all makes me believe that perhaps there is some karma in the world and you truly do reap what you sew.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 15:29:55 2022 No.52719266 >>52719202 because its not ready. They took our money and fucked around at conferences and street performers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 15:30:52 2022 No.52719272 >>52714388 If a commumity advocate is talking out his ass about release schedules then the team would tell him to STFU on social media but that isn't the case.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 15:40:44 2022 No.52719363 >>52711344 > community advocates can censor community members on false pretenses makes sense

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 16:06:13 2022 No.52719584

>>52718580
Your instincts are correct. This isn't normal. Somewhere in either the development or marketing they fucked up in promising something they couldn't deliver and instead of admitting fault they are using weasel words to hide what is actually happening with development plans and implementation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 16:11:01 2022 No.52719628 >>52718620 None of those market factors influence development. If you want to hope that all the features are finished but a marketing decision is deciding to wait 2 years to release it then your cope is not accurate to how a business works.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 19:16:47 2022 No.52721571 >>52717999 81K will be real, but it will also be the price of a cup of coffee, hope you invested before 2$

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 19:33:29 2022 No.52721757 >>52711309 Gevalt. Shabbat shalom. No refunds

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 20:50:57 2022 No.52722618 literally typed up a paragraph argument and 15 mins of revisions every time i submit the post it's flagged as spam stink marketers have a hold on /biz/, it's time to bail

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 20:52:17 2022 No.52722630 >>52717147 >etherdelta Now that's a name I haven't heard in a while.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 21:01:52 2022 No.52722722 >>52719257 For ur sake u don’t have to wait a decade, and end up being an sufferable faggot like u claimed

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 21:47:25 2022 No.52723157 >>52718776 >you’re job >you ARE job Idiot. You only speak english and not even properly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 21:52:50 2022 No.52723217 How can you stake chainlink? It has no blockchain.

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 23:12:28 2022 No.52723970

>>52713821
>Staking in crypto is completely worthless if it crashes -90% every couple years. You would have to stake 20 years just to beat ONE bear market year lmaooooo
No one can argue with this kek, staking is absolutely retarded. Cash out towards the top and buy back in towards the bottom. Pocket the difference.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 00:55:28 2022 No.52724820 >>52723970 speculative bubble for link is done. you'll even start seeing a decoupling of btc and trad fi soon. i hope the top you sell is enough to make it though, frend.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 00:58:39 2022 No.52724841 >>52724820 yah it is done. Everyone lost faith when the team accidently admitted to everyone that the project was another 10 years out

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:26:56 2022 No.52725101 >>52724841 are you posting about ETH?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:30:50 2022 No.52725129 >>52725101 Eth would be a reason, given how they want to do it like eth

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:56:01 2022 No.52725334

I can't wait until all the fake holder and staker cocksuckers are gone from ChainLink. The biggest project in the history of Crypto and they bitching about having to lock too long. Like complaining about getting rich because it's going to take a couple of years!

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:05:15 2022 No.52725411

>duuuuuuuuude you HAVE to get scammed or else muhhhh bulgarian
>NEENER NEENER your grammar is wrong
>duuuuuuuude thats “x” amount of posts by your ID

Daily reminder Link culties have been reduced to nitpicking frivolous details in order to save face. This is what losing looks like. Losers. Imagine being loyal to a guy that is a) scamming you, and b) cant even bench the bar

breathes…..aaaaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahah

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 03:07:52 2022 No.52725943 >>52725411 Daily reminder bobos have had a golden bear run of black swans and still have nothing better to do with their time and money than obsess over chainlink. Go skydiving or something, man. Learn how to whitewater kayak.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 03:19:33 2022 No.52726057

>>52725943
I think these are just newfags who bought link in 2021. Think about how much seethe they'd have knowing they have only ever watched their investment go down. If you bought link in 2021 it may as well be ICP, not like they have performed much differently in that timespan.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 03:26:03 2022 No.52726124
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>>52725053
>>52711238
>>52719281
>>52711238
>>52704376
>translation: PLEASE SELL PLEASE SELL SIRS PLEASE NO STAKING NO NOTHING JUST SELL SELL SELL RIGHT NOW MY VILLAGE SIRS

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 03:40:08 2022 No.52726238

>>52711284
After over 10 years of being in crypto I'm incredibly impressed with the scheme that they've been able to pull off here.
The oracle is useful. But the real genius is the ensnarement of holders who are so emotionally attached to their tokens that they'll willingly give up what will end being multiple bull runs in the end.
It's honestly beautiful. Especially that they managed to target such a large percentage of people from here, which historically has been an extremely skeptical and fickle demographic.
The people behind this deserve a full chapter in business textbooks on innovative business models.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 03:44:18 2022 No.52726277 >>52711569 Is that Steve?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 03:47:55 2022 No.52726312 >>52713821 >Staking in crypto is completely worthless if it crashes -90% every couple years. You would have to stake 20 years just to beat ONE bear market year lmaooooo shhh...you're not supposed to say the quiet part out loud.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 04:20:10 2022 No.52726548 >>52719257 Anon, you're going to sell Link early and feel retarded looking at linkies

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 04:23:09 2022 No.52726562 >>52711238 Sergey is a fat lazy scammer. Even BSC shitcoins have staking already

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 04:32:58 2022 No.52726619 >>52726238 Looking back in 2017, you can tell it was orchestrated.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 06:09:31 2022 No.52727229 >>52714348 No one can tell for sure if it's a gradual rugpull, stopped buying though, just taking advantage of the dip with some low caps like PHA, ORE, and CVP

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 06:42:48 2022 No.52727455 >>52711727 2022 was the worst real pain. Torment, ptsd, you name it. I've literally started to drink alcohol everyday just to cope.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 10:19:35 2022 No.52728414

>>52711539
>Each version will come out exponentially faster then the last. 0.1 took 5 years, 0.2 will take 1 year, 0.3 will take 2 months and 0.4-1.0 will probably also take 2 months each. So my guess is 2.5 years from now until 1.0 is complete

>2.5 years to release fucking staking

chainlink is ran by incapable idiots and any surviving link marines are just as stupid.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 10:23:27 2022 No.52728435 >>52728414 So deluded that they start making up numbers to cope. I like one in lpl thread where someone was explaining how a 7k stake can potentially yield $2 millions lol

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 10:47:07 2022 No.52728570

>>52718923
Chainlink is a joke. Sergey is a joke. The amount of employees who dont contribute anything are a joke. CLL guidances are a joke. Work rate is a joke. Marketing is a joke. Comms are an absolute banger of a joke. Token distribution are a joke. 6 years in kyc nodes with fake staking bandaid are a joke. Truth over trust is a joke. Anons wake up from ur cult, sell and dont look back.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 10:48:30 2022 No.52728577 >>52711508 >>52711579 >>52713762 You read it wrong, so Chainlink is "scammy"?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 10:49:59 2022 No.52728583 >>52719234 Crypto paypigging

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 10:53:03 2022 No.52728597

ETH:
>has missed out on deadlines and outright delayed shit dozens of times with literaly billions of USD staked

Link:
>has missed literally zero deadlines so far, and delayed literally nothing, with literally zero money staked right now

Can someone please explain why ETH doesn't get a fraction of the hate Link is getting?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 10:56:35 2022 No.52728624 >>52717190 I spammed this narrative for 6 months.good fellow ex cult members start to follow it. Link 1$ eoy

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 10:59:02 2022 No.52728636 >>52717190 >>52728624 Please explain how Chainlink should do its development "trustlessly".

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:05:06 2022 No.52728664 >>52728597 Attention is the currency on /biz/ and isolated shut-ins know that they can get a proxy for human contact in the form of (yous) if they just follow a pretty banal bait script.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:09:29 2022 No.52728692 >>52728597 >Can someone please explain why ETH doesn't get a fraction of the hate Link is getting? It does though

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:09:42 2022 No.52728693 >>52728597 Paid spam with some legit mental illness sprinkled in.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:11:02 2022 No.52728699 >>52728692 Absolutely not.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:26:15 2022 No.52728785

>>52728636
This false statement is jarring. Offcourse we are not suggesting that. On the white to black spectrum from truth to trust no one expects them to be fully trustless in development. However the entire cloaked mystery of development, development timeline, adoption, expenditures, staking, is the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of their mantra. Similar to the censorship on discord, telegram or massive amount of community advocates that block/ban u as soon as u ask for clarification on any of these subjects. How dare u question are supreme leader.

Dont put false words in my mouth newfag 2020 community advocate cuck.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:28:41 2022 No.52728801

>>52728785
>the entire cloaked mystery of development, development timeline, adoption, expenditures, staking, is the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of their mantra
All of this is about development and how fast Chainlink does it.
You cannot develop "trustlessly", that's not something "truth > trust" applies to.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:30:22 2022 No.52728807 >>52728699 but it does? just not on biz maybe, but that's just selection bias

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:30:31 2022 No.52728809

you just know the situation is hopeless when the esl paid community advocates (who wake up everyday around 11 UTC, and almost never in american hours) desperately attempt to shift focus from link to eth
It's sad and hilarious at the same time
>but what about muh eth!!!

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:31:36 2022 No.52728817

>>52728785
This was condoned when they actually shipped things. With the disastrous output and continuous delays you cannot get away with it anymore. Explain why their centerproject partner celsius failed,explain delays, show that the funding is well spent. None of this is done, its all zero accountability, zero output, horrific communication. And ur surprised Ico buyers had enough. Lmao, my thought is more, what the hell took them so long

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:32:17 2022 No.52728821 >>52728817 >continuous delays Name one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:34:22 2022 No.52728831 >>52728801 Ill repeat it one more time for ur brainwashed paidfor brain; YOU CANNOT SMELL YOUR OWN FARTS WHILE EXCLAIMING TRUTH OVER TRUST FOR SOCIETY AND LITERALLY HAVE EVERY ASPECT OF UR OWN BUSINESS CLOUDED IN MYSTERY.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:36:52 2022 No.52728845

>>52728597
It's dependent on anons actual bags, this just showed that biz really is ballsdeep in link and barely in eth anymore
Anyone with some brain capacity sold of between Nov and April and apparently bought back in heavily in link, hence the outrage

Go to eth heavy place and observe how pissed they are vs the ignoring of link there

>>52728664
No, biz isn't the board for that
We are a combo of 10% real anons discussing finance and the rest paid jeets not r9k type anons

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:37:36 2022 No.52728847 >>52728831 Bro, they just cannot make the lock-up period trustless, it is technically impossible.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:38:31 2022 No.52728854

>>52728831
>UR OWN BUSINESS CLOUDED IN MYSTERY
The development side, sure. Because you can't develop trustlessly.

>>52728845
>this just showed that biz really is ballsdeep in link and barely in eth anymore
ETH gets more threads every time it pumps on here than Link.

>>52728847
The lock-up period depends entirely on development progress.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:39:51 2022 No.52728865 >>52728847 Another shill painting a false dilemma. Sad fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:41:47 2022 No.52728873 >>52728854 Learn to tell the difference between anon threads and Jeet threads

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:47:55 2022 No.52728908

>>52728854
>The lock-up period depends entirely on development progress.

They said 12 months max. Could have a manual trigger if they finish it earlier. If they don't tokens are released to the stakers automatically after 12 months. What's wrong with that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:50:58 2022 No.52728928 >>52728699 What are you talking about? ETH is unfairly shit on everywhere else outside this board despite being the most important crypto project in the space (far more important than LINK btw).

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:51:07 2022 No.52728929

>>52728865
Answer this: >>52728821

>false dilemma
Unlocking is dependent on future releases; i.e. development.

>>52728865
ETH gets more threads when it pumps than Link (or at best about the same), but Link gets tons more hate every single day.

>>52728908
>They said 12 months max.
For an early version of staking, yes.

>If they don't tokens are released to the stakers automatically after 12 months
The trigger for this would be Chainlink manually announcing "target met" or "target not met" based on the state of development after 12 months, for instance by triggering a release on Github or something.
Why would they attach an automatic response to something they have to publish manually?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:52:30 2022 No.52728939 >>52728928 >ETH is unfairly shit on everywhere else outside this board Lol outside of crypto maybe.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:53:42 2022 No.52728946 >>52728873 ETH gets more threads when it pumps than Link (or at best about the same), but Link gets tons more hate every single day.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:54:34 2022 No.52728949

>>52728929
>The trigger for this would be Chainlink manually announcing "target met" or "target not met" based on the state of development after 12 months, for instance by triggering a release on Github or something.
>Why would they attach an automatic response to something they have to publish manually?

No you don't get it. Whatever happens tokens are released. 12 months or earlier. Then stakers decide to restake or not on the next version.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:11:53 2022 No.52729013 >>52728699 >Absolutely not. Go on literally any other social media platform aside from this shithole and you'll see people rightly hating on Ethereum for quietly changing the ETH staking unlock to an indeterminate future date.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:13:55 2022 No.52729023
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I can't believe I wasted 2 full years worth of earnings to buy a shit load of chainlink
over the last 5 years. And what has it gotten me? I could have moved to SEA for that money and lived there for a decade on it. Living like a kingpin and smashing that brown cunny. Instead I spend my best yeard eating rice with beans while my mom still washes my clothes and the only women available are 300lbs mayohogs.
Heh, thanks /biz/

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:14:32 2022 No.52729026 >>52719257 >$5 Wow. It was 30c for me

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:14:55 2022 No.52729028 >>52729013 Same with Link. The difference is on here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:16:19 2022 No.52729041 >>52728821 >continuous delays >Name one. >staking before end of 2019 >"shipping, derivatives, and insurance" (quoting Sergey verbatim) before end of 2019 Just two lies from a few years ago by Sergey, plenty more where that came from.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:56:48 2022 No.52729252 Watch the thread fizzle away once chainlink comm advocates have no cookiecutter rebuttals anymore. Happens everytime

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:58:36 2022 No.52729265 >>52729023 nice demoralization attempt to get linkies to sell. gonna need a timestamp pic of your birth certificate to show you arent part of a funny lil hat tribe with long noses

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 13:19:37 2022 No.52729384 >>52728821 I won't name the concrete examples (they exist) but you are somewhat right. Can't delay something you never gave a date on. Like the unstaking ability of staking 0.1 (what a horseshit product name). >truth over trust fuck off

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 13:25:24 2022 No.52729424

>>52728929
fucking piece of shit.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_switch
You are telling me that a simple timerswitch is not possible to code ? Just get the fuck out of here. If the entire Chainlink team gets killed, the staked LINK will NEVER be released. So a timer switch or just some kind of dead mans switch is ESSENTIAL if you want to claim truth over trust.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 13:28:41 2022 No.52729442 >>52729252 >Watch the thread fizzle away you'll get over it, trannie

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 13:41:12 2022 No.52729506 >>52729424 It's a good point, actually. We should know how exactly the staked tokens can be unlocked. Is it a single-point of failure with Sergey having all the power? Is it a multi-sig? It's complete bullshit that we don't know any of this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 13:51:40 2022 No.52729557 File: 197 KB, 800x600, 1621976425725.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The great battle between the discord fud trannies and the paid twitter ambassadors. Truly a sight to behold

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:14:55 2022 No.52729705

>>52729424
A deadman's switch is fine, but demanding a timer is not understanding the purpose of v0.1. They're testing out the functionality and behavior of staking. Remember, once staking fully rolls out, Chainlink isn't going to subsidize the nodes nor the early access/0.1 stakers anymore and the system will have to stand on its own.

I get people want to demand Chainlink be more strict with deadlines and not lock up tokens for 2 years, but let's not compromise the end goal here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:16:17 2022 No.52729714 >>52729705 just not going to stake then.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:18:14 2022 No.52729726 >>52729705 remember, nodes were supposed to be profitable back in January, that's why he announced staking stop coping ffs

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:30:48 2022 No.52729819

fellas I applied for a job at CL and managed to get it lol

I'll update you with breadcrumbs once I get to the bottom of things. so far they seem extremely well organized desu. the team is pretty amazing too, no fucking juniors and mids to babysit, everyone is on top of their game. a small breadcrumb for now: a pretty cool new feature is coming to the node, don't know the timeline, but it's going to allow running arbitrary code off-chain (JS code to start with, but will support even binaries at some point). this will allow you to have a smart contract that does some heavy computation with minimal gas fees

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:34:20 2022 No.52729843

>>52729819
to add to that, the flip flopping around staking timeline seems like a purely political thing, afaik staking with all the features described as "v1.0" has been running on testnets for a long time now, it's just a matter of getting it production/mainnet ready. the timeline they've laid out is super safe

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:36:03 2022 No.52729856 >>52729843 >shills switch from silence to buy the bags glad I shorted at 7.5

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:39:01 2022 No.52729874 >>52729856 lol buying any crypto, including link, as an investment is gambling. it'll take probably 5-10 years before crypto assets are priced based on their utility, not purely on speculation

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:48:42 2022 No.52729952

>>52729041
>>staking before end of 2019
>>"shipping, derivatives, and insurance" (quoting Sergey verbatim) before end of 2019
Horseshit on both.

>>52729424
>>52729506
>>52728949
This is your big "truth over trust" argument? That there's no auto-unlocking timer for the exact second 12 months have elapsed?
The timing of everything depends on Chainlink's internal development, so obviously they're providing for the possibility that they may go over the exact 12-month deadline by a day or a week or something.

There's no way to develop and meet development deadlines in a trustless manner; "truth over trust" has exactly zero application here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:51:21 2022 No.52729977 >>52729028 depends on the site, if you got to an ethereum board, you'll find tons of people hating on eth staking but almost none hating on link. that's not weird, it's just selection bias

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:55:27 2022 No.52730018 >>52725411 You're on biz for hundreds of hours a month bitching about a token you apparently dont hold and yet you call other people losers.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:57:52 2022 No.52730036

>>52729952
>they may go over the exact 12-month deadline by a day or a week or something
then make the auto release 24 months, like their original estimate. that has to be enough time, right? what most take issue with is that stakers are completely beholden to the whims of a company. move the guaranteed release as far out as your worst case scenario + a year, but don't leave it out completely

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:01:32 2022 No.52730076 >>52729952 >staking before end of 2019 >"shipping, derivatives, and insurance" (quoting Sergey verbatim) before end of 2019 >Horseshit on both. You're either a nulinker or a bagholder in denial—which is it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:02:43 2022 No.52730087 >>52730036 >then make the auto release 24 months Then the deadline becomes 24 months, and you'll be here crying that it's "TWO YEARS?????" >>52730076 cool source

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:08:10 2022 No.52730133 >>52730087 >cool source If you were here from 2017 onwards you'd know he made these promises with timelines and then broke them. You want a source? go look in Warosu you cocksucking nigger newfag.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:08:34 2022 No.52730141

>>52729952
>This is your big "truth over trust" argument?
7000 LINK @ 5$ would be 35.000$
You expect me to give that much money to ANY company with NO way to redeem it ? "Just trust us" ? Especially after all this radio silence, tons of promises that got "postponed" (read: radio silence). Get fucked.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:10:49 2022 No.52730159

>>52730087
>Then the deadline becomes 24 months
no, the deadline stays at 12 months, the 24 months are just a fail safe so stakers can be sure that they eventually get their money back. if CLL then takes 24 months to implement something they estimated themselves to take 12 months, it's on them

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:11:13 2022 No.52730162 >>52730141 Even worse imagine Link moons to $140 for 2 months and crashes back to $15 before the next unlock

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:11:36 2022 No.52730163

>>52728597
>Link:
>>has missed literally zero deadlines so far, and delayed literally nothing, with literally zero money staked right now

they havent missed deadlines because they have been purposely vague about them to keep people bag holding. They full well knew that it was a 15 year hold before we get out of beta

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:13:08 2022 No.52730175

>>52730133
I know what "promises" you're talking about, and in no way did he set a deadline for 2019.

>>52730141
>with NO way to redeem it ? "Just trust us" ?
Unlocking is based on development. You can't develop trustlessly.

>>52730159
>no, the deadline stays at 12 months, the 24 months are just a fail safe
If they set a failsafe at 24 months, the deadline becomes 24 months.

>>52730163
>they havent missed deadlines because they have been purposely vague about them
And rightly so. Crypto history is absolutely filled with broken deadlines.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:16:48 2022 No.52730216 >>52728821 This is truly pants on head delusional. Staking was "around the corner" in 2019, sergeys own words. We dont have staking, ccip, or an enterprise layer. Where's mixicles? Wheres deco? Wheres town crier? Wheres fss?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:17:28 2022 No.52730225 >>52729819 Screen cap internal dev stuff without compromising your identity and anything sensitive. They use Google Workspaces right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:17:59 2022 No.52730231 >>52730216 I'm not seeing any delays.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:18:14 2022 No.52730234 >>52730216 The items u listed, just sound like sergays toys

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:20:15 2022 No.52730247 >>52730159 >the 24 months are just a fail safe so stakers can be sure that they eventually get their money back this is cope. They will wait till the very last day of the two years to unlock >>52730231 are you actually braindead?

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:20:19 2022 No.52730250

>>52730175
>If they set a failsafe at 24 months, the deadline becomes 24 months.
are you saying that whatever amount of time they give themselves, they will overrun that budget? that's probably not wrong, but that's not the purpose of the fail safe. there are plenty of ways to have a fixed deadline but still give stakers a guaranteed point where they can get out, e.g.: after a year, allow a fraction more to be unstaked every day until everything can be unstaked after another year. then the deadline is a year, but after they failed to meet their deadline, stakers can withdraw the more they fail. sound good?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:20:25 2022 No.52730251 >>52730231 I'm not seeing any features getting delivered either what now, circular reasoning advocate?

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:22:15 2022 No.52730265

>>52730250
the funny thing that no one is pointing ot itt is that they have a fuck load of link still in cold storage that they could use for lock up indefinity to test the network. They choose to users fund because it gives them the ability to dump their tokens onto us. They wont lock up their tokens for two years why should we?

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:22:45 2022 No.52730270

>>52730251
The argument was about delays.
And many features have been delivered.

>>52730250
I'm saying if they say 12 months and put a failsafe at 24 months, you'll be in here howling about how the deadline is 24 months.
The deadline is 12 months, give or take.

>>52730247
>are you actually braindead?
Do you even know what a delay is?

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:25:27 2022 No.52730298

>>52730175
You’re being extremely disingenuous, you completely ignored what >>52730141 said. The value proposition is not only awful, but it’s unbelievably risky since you’re basically handing the keys to your safe to Sergey and hoping he’s going to give it back to you within 2 years. How can you even possibly spin this as an acceptable deal? It’s absolutely ridiculous coming from the company shouting about TRUTH > TRUST all the time. There absolutely should be a guaranteed time when tokens can be withdrawn, they’re more than capable of implementing that, they just chose not to.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:25:52 2022 No.52730302 >>52730270 sorry, I don't see any features here, all I see is empty announcements of announcements and more delays

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:27:24 2022 No.52730319

>>52730298
>you completely ignored what >>52730141 said
No I didn't.
Unstaking is predicated on development, not an external factor.
And you can't develop trustlessly.

>>52730302
>sorry, I don't see any features here
Mainnet, OCR, VRF, PoR, ...

>delays
Name one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:27:51 2022 No.52730324 >>52730270 haters will always hate, no matter the scheme they chose. but the current proposal offers no protection to stakers at all, that's worse

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:29:30 2022 No.52730336

>>52730270
>The deadline is 12 months, give or take.
no the deadline was 12 to 24 months. They changed it to 12 when people were rightfully upset. They used jew tactics to walk it back like sergey always has done. they really didnt shorten the deadline for lock ups at all. Thy could have said okay we will unlock at six months and that would have been a shorter timeframe.

>>52730270
>Do you even know what a delay is?
they havent delayed anything. They are slow as shit and have purposefully been vague about deadlines to keep people from selling so they can continue to fuck around instead of working on core features. we were in ICO at 2017 since then multiple projects have completed staking in one form or another. Hell depositing stables into aave is a form of staking. There is no excuse anymore after six years for the shit they pull

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:30:58 2022 No.52730353 >>52730336 >they havent delayed anything. Correct

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:31:43 2022 No.52730359

>>52730319
>>sorry, I don't see any features here
>Mainnet, OCR, VRF, PoR, ...
main net beta and we are still on that since it went live two years ago. ocr is for node operators and sergey has been paying them from treasury. vrf is for nft shitcoins POR is good but no one wants to use it

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:31:50 2022 No.52730361 >>52730319 sorry, these are useless bloatware that do nothing, they weren't even included in the original whitepaper >name one sure, staking, deco, mixicles, town crier, enterprise layer, etc >>52730353 >they haven't delivered anything correct

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:32:48 2022 No.52730370 >>52730359 >>52730361 >th-those features don't count!!!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:33:54 2022 No.52730379 >>52730353 you're that same CLL retard that argues in circles constantly to derail peoples points. >>52730370 they dont count because they dont pump the price causing network security. so yah they are irrelevant

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:34:56 2022 No.52730388 >>52729726 Yes, but now with staking, if you're going to offer staking, you'll want some kind of incentive to get people to stake (aka I pay you some APY or some percent of my profits). That money has to come from somewhere to pay out to the stakers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:34:59 2022 No.52730389 >>52730370 >th-these delays don't count!!!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:36:01 2022 No.52730397 >>52730388 so nodes aren't profitable and sergay lied, again thanks

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:37:33 2022 No.52730406 >>52730389 >delays Name one.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:38:43 2022 No.52730417

>>52730319
This “you can’t develop trustlessly” is such a strange argument. No one is suggesting that, we’re suggesting that Chainlink actually practices what they preach and utilize the benefits of smart contracts by creating a set of terms and conditions that are cryptographically guaranteed. Chainlink is no better than Robinhood with the terms of v0.1.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:39:45 2022 No.52730423 >>52730406 bot broke down? sure, staking, deco, mixicles, town crier sgx, enterprise abstraction layer, ccip and so on remember, ccip launch was announced in January for this year, so you really can't twist your way out of this kek

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:40:19 2022 No.52730429

>>52730417
>utilize the benefits of smart contracts by creating a set of terms and conditions that are cryptographically guaranteed
That doesn't work when Chainlink is also the one who publishes the events (github etc.) that would trigger the smart contract.

>>52730423
>staking, deco, mixicles, town crier sgx, enterprise abstraction layer, ccip and so on
None of them have been delayed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:40:21 2022 No.52730430 >>52730417 to write that code it would take another two years. Then the have to test it using users tokens and then they will start writing the actual code. Then they will have CLL ambassadors argue with people on forums about why there are no delays

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:40:35 2022 No.52730433

>>52730397
Anon, if an average company decided to invest their revenue into building a stable of bugattis and hummers, growing their stable with 2 of each per month, they would no longer be profitable.

I.e. adding unnecessary expenses to eat away all the revenue would turn a company unprofitable. In Chainlink's case, if the network isn't ready for jobs that require staking, then there's no point in releasing it and have nodes add expenses with no return.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:41:21 2022 No.52730443 >>52730353 why didnt you address my points dont cherry pick nigger

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:42:44 2022 No.52730456 >>52730433 chainlink nodes are kyc'd and paid for by sergey. hes paying his friends and giving them reputation on our dime.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:43:40 2022 No.52730463 >>52730429 yes they have they've been announced for years and they are nowhere to be seen >>52730433 then there's no point in releasing this watered down barebones version of staking that does absolutely nothing

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:45:18 2022 No.52730473 >>52716633 Parasitical rent seekers make nodes secure? Does Swift not have enough of them already? PoS is a fucking joke.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:47:13 2022 No.52730486

>>52730443
Your other point is they changed the deadline. It's completely irrelevant to our discussion.

>>52730463
>they've been announced for years
None of them were announced with deadlines.
Only mainnet, staking, and CCIP.

>>52730456
>>52730473
How the fuck haven't you sold your Link yet?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:49:04 2022 No.52730499 >>52730486 >my other points there were other there you dog >>52730486 im not selling bottom.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:49:10 2022 No.52730500

>>52730486
sorry, explicitly not mentioning any deadlines doesn't negate the fact that all of these features got either delayed or shitcanned
all I see is empty promises and more delays
>CCIP
there you go, you finally conceded that at least that shit is officially delayed kek

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:50:40 2022 No.52730511

>>52730500
>explicitly not mentioning any deadlines doesn't negate the fact that all of these features got either delayed or shitcanned
Maybe in your wonderful imagination.

>you finally conceded that at least that shit is officially delayed kek
It'll be officially delayed on January 1st, 2023.
Calendars are hard, am I right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:51:19 2022 No.52730514 >>52730511 how much link are you getting per post?

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:52:48 2022 No.52730523

>>52730486
since you didn't reply to >>52730324 is it safe to assume that your only opposition to a far out, hard coded release date is that people will complain about the "moved deadline"? well, people are already complaining, so that shouldn't be an excuse to not provide any protection for stakers

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:52:54 2022 No.52730525 >>52730514 It's natural for holders to shill. Obsessive fudding, now that requires payment.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:54:22 2022 No.52730534 >>52730523 they didnt move the deadline back. moving the deadline back means the unlock would be less then 12 months.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:55:32 2022 No.52730546 >It'll be officially delayed on January 1st, 2023. kek, you really enjoy getting humiliated on the chans, Zach, don't you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:59:17 2022 No.52730568 >>52730546 ?

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:00:24 2022 No.52730583

>>52730225
for email yes, otherwise different teams use different tools. e.g. most project management happens in Shortcut but some teams use Jira. most calls happen over zoom, but I've been on some on google meet or whatever it's called now... so it depends. most docs that I could screencap to prove I'm an insider are in notion, I'll attach screencaps as proof when I have some real breadcrumbs to share. I feel like a spy hehe

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:05:27 2022 No.52730622

>>52730534
i think he's just concerned that when people read "we'll be done in a year or less, but because we know that this is a lot of money, after two years you'll have your money back, guaranteed by the smart contract. we will never hit this date because we'll allow unstaking in less than a year, it's just to put your mind at ease and because we are a professional company" they will come here and sy that he deadline was pushed back to two years. but people are already complaining about the missing fail safe, that's far more egregious as a (perceived) deadline push back. those are common in tech anyway, as he noted. but not having a fail safe, that's ridiculous for a company that wants to do better than ethereum.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:05:33 2022 No.52730625

>>52730429
Again, you keep ignoring what we’re saying. We’re saying at the very least the staking contract v0.1 should provide a guarantee that after 2 years or whatever you can withdraw your tokens. If Chainlink delivers v1 or “a future version of staking” earlier than that then great, but providing that guarantee to stakers is the least they can do. Not just from an equitable point of view but for the benefit of Chainlink’s own brand and marketing. It’s completely unacceptable that after 20 months since their second white paper we’ve got a staking version that doesn’t really do anything at all.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:07:40 2022 No.52730644

>>52730625
>We’re saying at the very least the staking contract v0.1 should provide a guarantee that after 2 years or whatever you can withdraw your tokens.
Wherever you put this guarantee, that's what the deadline becomes in the minds of people.
The deadline is 12 months, and everything depends on the development done by Chainlink themselves.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:09:33 2022 No.52730658

>>52730644
The point isn’t about having an explicit deadline defined, it’s about providing stakers a guaranteed outcome by a certain date. You’re being really obtuse in your thinking, it’s really hard to not believe you’re here doing damage control for Chainlink.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:09:39 2022 No.52730660 >>52730625 I agree with you in principle but thats never going to happen

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:09:56 2022 No.52730663

>>52730622
i dont give a shit about the lockup or the value. im pissed off about the fact that no work on staking has been done. i used to check pivitol tracker like rory used to say to do. Remember pivitol? they said the staking contract would be worked on and you could check the progress on there. no it seems it never was worked on at all

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:10:32 2022 No.52730668 >>52730658 >The point isn’t about having an explicit deadline defined, it’s about providing stakers a guaranteed outcome by a certain date. Regardless, wherever you put the guarantee, that's what the deadline becomes in the minds of people.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:13:33 2022 No.52730694 >>52730668 A cryptographically enforced deadline of 2 years is preferable to a Just Trust Us deadline of 1 year.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:15:34 2022 No.52730703

>>52730668
>wherever you put the guarantee, that's what the deadline becomes in the minds of people
then why don't they hard code the deadline at 12 months in the contract? if they are not sure they will make the deadline of 12 months, then they shouldn't announce it. how is announcing a deadline they don't intend to keep better than having a far too pessimistic deadline that they are sure to keep?

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:17:26 2022 No.52730722

>>52730668
And Chainlink shouldn’t be making these decisions because they’re worried about what people will think about deadlines. They should be leading by example and delivering transparent, cryptographically guaranteed smart contracts. As it stands Chainlink is making a pledge just like Robinhood was to their users.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:18:57 2022 No.52730734

>>52730703
because they could tell everyone was loosing faith in the project and on the verge of selling. They are stuck in a hard spot. Dont release staking people sell. Release a shitty version of staking and people will cope and defend them to like they have in the past. They didnt realize everyone would relize the project is another six years out from getting out of beta.

>>52730722
they need someone to keep the price popped anon

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:19:07 2022 No.52730736

>>52730694
That makes no sense.

>>52730703
>then why don't they hard code the deadline at 12 months
Because obviously they're accounting for a day or a week or so in excess.

>>52730722
>They should be leading by example and delivering transparent, cryptographically guaranteed smart contracts.
You can't attach cryptographic guarantees to internal development.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:20:35 2022 No.52730750 >>52730736 >Because obviously they're accounting for a day or a week or so in excess. then make it 13 months

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:22:35 2022 No.52730765 >>52714348 remember the chainlink pricefeed contracts are controlled by a >2/23 multisig ruggable by design

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:23:08 2022 No.52730773 >>52730750 Then the deadline becomes 13 months. >>52730765 >contract operators operate the contracts You don't say lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:23:38 2022 No.52730776 >>52730736 Alright, pretty convinced you’re just here to damage control for Chainlink. You’re not arguing in good faith, you’re going in circles.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:24:10 2022 No.52730780 >>52730773 it's a lot of trust in whoever those 2 keys are.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:25:09 2022 No.52730787 >>52730776 >you're going in circles It's literally the same argument I made from the very beginning. >>52730780 Then make your own contracts. Contract operators will always operate the contracts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:25:47 2022 No.52730794 >>52730773 >Then the deadline becomes 13 months. and that's great, people will love the guaranteed unstaking for only a single month of deadline push back. what's your point? that if CLL will also need another week of slack after the 13 months?

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:26:16 2022 No.52730799
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Am I supposed to take the retarded questions of an obvious troll account seriously? His name is literally financially ruined with a meme avatar gee I wonder if there's some sort of end goal here hmmmmmmm...

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:27:20 2022 No.52730805

>>52730736
>Because obviously they're accounting for a day or a week or so in excess.

Theyre accounting for more than that. The 9-12 months promise gives them 3 whole months of wiggle-room. Encoding an unlock at 13 months is more than fair. If they cannot get the job done in 13 months, people should have the option to abandon their ties to the project.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:28:27 2022 No.52730814 File: 223 KB, 870x1117, B13DE187-14E9-46DA-B0F6-36255983C0CA.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] prove you’re not from chainlink labs

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:30:41 2022 No.52730829 >>52730794 >>52730805 If they set a fixed automatic unlock date like that, you'd be posting "haha they're not even confident that they can get it done".

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:33:48 2022 No.52730864 >>52711721 >2 years It's been fucking 5 years

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:34:42 2022 No.52730868

>>52730829
Doesn’t make any sense. By their own admission Chainlink has said these are conservative estimates, and so this would just be providing a guaranteed outcome if they didn’t hit their estimate (which is actually ok, it happens). But what’s not ok is to just lock up people’s tokens indefinitely, which is why having a guaranteed time to unstake is important.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:35:57 2022 No.52730881 >>52730868 >indefinitely It's 9 to 12 months, depending entirely on development speed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:36:11 2022 No.52730885 >>52730175 >You can't develop trustlessly. but you could make staking 0.1 trustless (as in any kind of security besides "trust us") anyway, not going to bother any longer with you disingenious shill.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:36:22 2022 No.52730886 >>52730829 what? no, it would demonstrate their commitment to get it done before then. this isn't about how the project looks, those are basic investor protections

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:37:40 2022 No.52730899 >>52730885 >you could make staking 0.1 trustless No, because it all depends on internal development. >>52730886 >what? no lmao don't kid yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:38:35 2022 No.52730904 >>52730886 and if they were concerned about optics, they would implement the automatic unstaking, not dance around deadlines

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:38:49 2022 No.52730909 >>52730881 You’re an absolute moron. We have every reason to believe the possibility that 9-12 moments passes and then Chainlink says “We need another 12 months” and there’s absolutely nothing we could do.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:39:27 2022 No.52730912 >>52730909 >We have every reason to believe the possibility that 9-12 moments passes and then Chainlink says “We need another 12 months” That would literally be the first ever delay by Chainlink.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:40:03 2022 No.52730918

>>52730829
Interesting how you seem to be so opposed to a hardcoded unlock, no matter the duration. A 9 month unlock is unsuitable because CLL might need more time. A 24 month unlock is also unsuitable because
> the deadline becomes 24 month in people's minds

The common denominator is that you are wholly opposed to a hardcoded unlock because implementing one takes control away from CLL. Continuing to make promises has worked so far for CLL and doesn't force them to cede control of anything.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:41:42 2022 No.52730935 he's only here to push the thread to bump limit and you retards are enabling him

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:42:33 2022 No.52730941 >>52730912 If you are so confident that there won't be a delay, why are you so scared of a hardcoded unlock that even accounts for a little bit of delay?

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:43:08 2022 No.52730946

>>52730912
For your own sake let’s assume that yes, it would be the first delay. So what? I don’t think anyone should care, the technology is there. The option is there. They’ve built their brand around cryptographically guaranteed agreements. What’s the excuse? This “internal development” thing you’ve been coached on?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:43:59 2022 No.52730953 >>52730918 >>52730941 >>52730946 At the very basis, this is about internal development, and there's no way to cryptographically guarantee this. If you can't deal with that, then don't stake.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:44:08 2022 No.52730955

>>52730912
if they are so confident to never delay, why not guarantee it then? what a strong message that would send: we not only stick to our deadlines, we guarantee that if anything unforeseen happens, you'll be able to pull your money out of this experiment if you so desire. that's what truth over trust is all about

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:44:27 2022 No.52730961 >>52726238 Chain link labs will publish the business textbooks circa 2050 as part of its role in the sole global corporation-state

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:45:45 2022 No.52730969 >>52730955 Truth over trust in no way applies to internal development. Chainlink literally spells out how the token unlock depends on internal development, take the deal or leave it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:47:09 2022 No.52730978 >>52730953 there is no guarantee that they will be done by their own deadline, but they can guarantee that investors will get their money back. internal development has nothing to do with this

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:47:42 2022 No.52730985 >>52730899 >internal development so when sergey lets out the biggest most watery BRAAAAAAAP there is because he ate too many Big Macs and drank too much coffee, that is the internal development for staking to be unlocked ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:47:44 2022 No.52730986 >>52730969 This has to be a paid shill. No one can possibly be this delusional.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:47:48 2022 No.52730989 >>52730969 Absolutely no one is convinced by your bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:48:39 2022 No.52730995 >>52730978 >but they can guarantee that investors will get their money back In case what? They completely ditch staking?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:49:20 2022 No.52730998 File: 618 KB, 957x636, 1668473656464582.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52730978 They can't guarantee investors will get their money back. They could ensure they get their chain link tokens

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:49:41 2022 No.52731004 >>52730985 >>52730986 >>52730989 Just don't stake you kike nigger faggots. I bought the tokens trusting Chainlink to do well, and I'm staking for the same reason.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:50:00 2022 No.52731009 >>52730989 oh i'm very convinced that his bullshit comes out real liquid when sergey reams his ass. that's why he's so obsessed with internal development because he's having some really bad internal development.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:50:21 2022 No.52731012 >>52730999

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:50:42 2022 No.52731018 >>52731009 >because he's having some really bad internal development based

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:51:33 2022 No.52731021

>>52730995
in case they want to do something else with their money or they no longer believe in the project? it's their money, not holding it hostage indefinitely should be the default, what requires justification is not providing a guarantee that you'll regain custody of your money at a specified date

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:52:58 2022 No.52731030 >>52731021 >it's their money, not holding it hostage indefinitely should be the default With staking, holding assets "hostage" is literally the default, by definition.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:54:45 2022 No.52731044 >>52730319 >And you can't develop trustlessly. this is all that needs to be said but they dont get it so its waste of time

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:55:20 2022 No.52731048 >>52731004 >>52731018 *Gets called out for being a literal Chainlink Labs employee >niggers and kikes >how do you do fellow 4channers?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:55:41 2022 No.52731051 >>52731030 >yu vill own nossing und yu vill be häppy the post

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:58:02 2022 No.52731069 >>52731030 you skipped the word "indefinitely". fixed income products have a maturity date where you get your principal + interest back. a guaranteed date, before you ask

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:59:30 2022 No.52731079 >>52731069 >indefinitely Except it's 9-12 months. Regardless of whether you add a hardcoded token release later on.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:00:32 2022 No.52731088 >>52731069 Fixed income products don't depend on the internal development of these products.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:06:23 2022 No.52731130

>>52731088
having a guaranteed unstaking date is orthogonal to internal development. if you say that the unstaking date depends on internal development, what you are really saying is that their self imposed deadline is worth nothing. if it was worth something, they would provide a fixed unstaking date equal to the deadline, so it wouldn't become the new deadline. since it's 9- months, they already have 3 months of slack, so that covers the day or week of wiggle room you claimed they might additionally need (then why have a deadline like that, but whatever).

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:10:46 2022 No.52731155

>>52731130
>if you say that the unstaking date depends on internal development, what you are really saying is that their self imposed deadline is worth nothing
You made this up.
It simply means the whole thing depends on their own development, and they want to preserve some flexibility without doing something stupid like literally communicating to people "we might not actually make our deadline, so here's a failsafe".

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:17:35 2022 No.52731193 >"you made this up!!!" he exclaimed while spouting his own head canon about the team's internal workings >huehue

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:18:37 2022 No.52731203 >>52731130 >>52731009 don't bother. he has chronic diarrhea and because of it is obsessed with internal development, blaming everything in this world on it.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:24:10 2022 No.52731238

>>52731155
>You made this up.
that's just the logical conclusion from you stating that the unstaking date depends on internal development. either their deadline is fixed at 12 months like you claimed (so it does not depend on internal development) or it's up in the air, so it's worthless.
>something stupid like literally communicating to people "we might not actually make our deadline, so here's a failsafe".
giving investors guarantees is not a sign of weakness, it's a sign of strength and professionalism. would you rather make a deal with someone that says "trust me, i'll get the job done" or the guy that says "trust me, i'll get the job done, but even if i don't, your money is in a trust so you are at no risk"?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:27:15 2022 No.52731261 >>52731130 >hurrr setting a development deadline means you think that deadline is worthless How do you faggots keep coming up with this mindbending drivel?

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:29:00 2022 No.52731271

>>52731155
If investor confidence is more important than producing results, what does that say about the project itself? We wouldnt even be talking about any of this if CLL had kept any of their promises in the past. It sounds like you are claiming that without bagholder hopium, the whole thing collapses on itself

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:29:48 2022 No.52731275 >>52719257 >Bragging about buying link above $1 Lmao. Spotted the newfag 44 cents is my average. 50k stack Never selling filthy kikes

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:30:16 2022 No.52731280

>>52731261
>setting a development deadline means you think that deadline is worthless
no, everyone understands that there might be delays. but if you also claim that 12 months is the fixed deadline so no guaranteed unstaking date must be coded into he smart contract then those two statements are at odds.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:31:19 2022 No.52731292
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>>52731261
>be guy in the audience
>ask presenter
>"when will the next update for staking come?"
>"oh yeah, maybe 9, maybe 12 maybe 24 months"
>"anyway pleb, don't bother us, we'll get it done"
>"just trust us"

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:32:47 2022 No.52731304 >>52729442 Bought some link on bitrex for 26 cents and dumped half of it on your face at 45$. Nice try communitycuck. I hope you get paid well to defend this trash. Ad hominem tactics is NOT encouraged by CLL tho, only makes u seem weak. Tranny.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:33:05 2022 No.52731308 >>52722618 Always copy before you attempt to post..it sucks but that's the way it is

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:33:33 2022 No.52731312 >>52731271 that's exactly what he's claiming >it's the community's fault! stop bitching, see how eth bagholders are complacent, look at GME bagholders shilling their bags that has been his entire mantra for 2 years

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:36:50 2022 No.52731336

>>52731238
>either their deadline is fixed at 12 months like you claimed (so it does not depend on internal development)
Literally what?

>would you rather make a deal with someone that says "trust me, i'll get the job done" or the guy that says "trust me, i'll get the job done, but even if i don't, your money is in a trust so you are at no risk"?
I'd rather make a deal with the guy who clearly communicates his own self-imposed deadlines than one who says one thing but guarantees another.

>>52731271
>We wouldnt even be talking about any of this if CLL had kept any of their promises in the past.
Name one promise they haven't kept.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:45:11 2022 No.52731397 >>52731336 >Name one promise they haven't kept Here we go again. Round and round in circles. You tell me, then. Why ARE we talking about a smart contract enforced withdrawal date in the first place if no promises have been broken?

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:45:48 2022 No.52731400

>>52731336
>Literally what?
you say that 12 months is guaranteed, based on CLL never having a delay. you also say that the deadline depends on internal development, so it can't be hard coded into the contract. which is it?
>I'd rather make a deal with the guy who clearly communicates his own self-imposed deadlines than one who says one thing but guarantees another.
so you would rather have all your money at risk rather than only the premium? then you are bad at business, apparently CLLs deal is targeted at idiots then

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:48:57 2022 No.52731420

>>52731397
>Why ARE we talking about a smart contract enforced withdrawal date in the first place if no promises have been broken?
lol what?
Just tell me a promise they haven't kept. It's not hard.

>>52731400
>you say that 12 months is guaranteed, based on CLL never having a delay. you also say that the deadline depends on internal development, so it can't be hard coded into the contract. which is it?
It CAN be hardcoded into the contract, but that would be stupid because the data that would trigger that contract has to be manually entered by Chainlink.

>so you would rather have all your money at risk rather than only the premium? then you are bad at business
"All" my money? You mean the amount I allocate to a given investment.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:53:50 2022 No.52731464

>>52730141
I love how fudders just ignore the fact that a lot of OGs have 30k+ stacks and staking 7k isn't really much of a deal for us. AND the fact that we had said stack in cold storage for years so for us it's the same because we never planned to move the tokens around and were waiting for official staking. I checked in etherscan and the last time I moved a linkie was 1516 days ago. It's frightening how time flies.
Tbh. The only thing that makes me somewhat nervous is staking after slashing goes live because we don't know the details yet. But v0.1 is safe. I will stake 14k on Tuesday and keep the rest free in case we mega pumps. I got the feeling that general access normalfags won't get to stake a single linkie
Hence the fud

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:54:09 2022 No.52731465 >>52731420 It has already been stated in this thread what promises they have not kept. And you keep twisting the truth. Im not going to take your bait. Tell me why we are even discussing a hardcoded withdrawl if there are no reasons to want one?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:55:02 2022 No.52731473 >>52731465 >It has already been stated in this thread what promises they have not kept. Quote it.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:56:40 2022 No.52731486

>>52731420
>data that would trigger that contract has to be manually entered by Chainlink.
that's the beauty of it, smart contracts can just use the block number together with the block frequency to allow setting a date when something is possible, like unstaking. they can just code this into the contract right now since they never have a delay in their development. they can obviously have an additional manual override when they are done earlier to allow unstaking then and there, but it's not necessary
>"All" my money? You mean the amount I allocate to a given investment.
yes, the amount of money we are talking about here. you would be bad at business taking a deal where you might lose your principal if you could get a guarantee where your principal wouldn't be at risk. was that your only objection?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:56:44 2022 No.52731487 >>52731473 Answer the question shill.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:56:47 2022 No.52731488

>>52729952
>The timing of everything depends on Chainlink's internal development, so obviously they're providing for the possibility that they may go over the exact 12-month deadline by a day or a week or something.

As I said, but you ignore it, they could have a 12 months dead man switch, and every 12 months stakers decide to restake or not. Would guarantee stakers they will get their stack back every 12 months whatever happens. Would also make the team more accountable, they have to make some sort of progress every 12 months

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 18:00:49 2022 No.52731509

>>52731487
State one (1) promise they haven't kept.

>>52731486
>you would be bad at business taking a deal where you might lose your principal
Probably most business deals put the principal at risk. Especially investments, collateral, etc.

>>52731488
>they could have a 12 months dead man switch
And if the actual release is a day or a week late?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 18:03:12 2022 No.52731526 Didn't read any of the replies in this thread as it stinks of NEXO who are completely insolvent

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 18:05:16 2022 No.52731550 >>52731509 >And if the actual release is a day or a week late? Then fine, stakers that trust the team will directly restake, others will wait one week and maybe lose their spot. This is trustless and fair

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 18:07:15 2022 No.52731568

>>52731509
Look at it this way. A person living in South America for example would never be heard talking about winter coats. Because that person has no need for a winter coat. He likely has never even seen a winter coat. He doesnt plan to buy a winter coat. Winter coats have zero effect on his life.

Why are Chainlink holders even talking about a hardcoded withdrawal if there is no need for one?

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 18:08:28 2022 No.52731578

>>52731509
>Probably most business deals put the principal at risk. Especially investments, collateral, etc.
so you agree that it's bad for the principal to be at risk. that's a good first step. now think about it: does the principal have to be at risk with CLL staking? you will come to the conclusion that no, there is no reason for the principal to be at risk since this is not real staking, it's just redistributing the money that CLL already has set aside for this experiment. they are not doing anything with the tokens that are staked, they serve no purpose yet.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 18:09:17 2022 No.52731586

>>52731550
It's dumb and unnecessary. Obviously.
The entire reason anyone stakes is in the expectation that they develop staking further.
That's the crux of the entire deal here.
Either you're in or you're out, but it's retarded to affix a "trustless" date to development.

>>52731568
State one (1) promise they haven't kept.
Shouldn't be hard since you implied there are multiple.

>>52731578
>so you agree that it's bad for the principal to be at risk
You're literaly retarded.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 18:22:27 2022 No.52731683

>>52731586
>It's dumb and unnecessary

So you're reply is this is dumb and unnecessary? How is a trustless mechanism dumb and unnecessary when this is precisely what Chainlink is trying to bring to the space? This refutes all your arguments about development pace, users can choose to restake or leave. You are starting to feel a bit hypocritical here

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 18:30:52 2022 No.52731761 >>52731683 >How is a trustless mechanism dumb and unnecessary when this is precisely what Chainlink is trying to bring to the space? Because development is not something that applies in this case. You can't develop trustlessly.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 18:35:43 2022 No.52731803 >>52729265 >HODL MARINESTHH >mommmmmm please dont cut my internet, were fighting da fuddderzzzz by losing all our money!!!111

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 18:38:00 2022 No.52731820 >>52730018 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHWHWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHW >spams board for years with hubris >fails miserably >DUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE y y you cant criticize my cult for “X” amount of hours God youre so WEAK

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 18:41:24 2022 No.52731849

>>52730511
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>duuuuuuuuude we have to wait until new years before its delayed

So disengenious indeed as previously noted. Are you on Link’s team or something? We all know its not coming out. Just be honest you pathetic pussy

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 18:42:50 2022 No.52731859

>>52731761
>Because development is not something that applies in this case. You can't develop trustlessly.

Are you not understanding on purpose? Regardless of development, stakers have the opportunity to unstake or restake every 12 months, trustlessly. Why is this bad? If you have faith in them like you urge everyone to have this shouldn't be an issue, you might be able to stake even more every 12 months

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 18:46:52 2022 No.52731892 >>52731464 >duuuuuuude we are so rich!!!! >we lost MILLIONS this past year but who cares bc its our cult!!! >us You need to get help

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 18:49:50 2022 No.52731914 File: 924 KB, 1125x2188, 53565688-5097-447F-9EB3-7E6879C53DA3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52731509 >State one (1) promise they haven't kept See pic. In before >i i its not 1/1/23 yet Stfu faggot

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 18:51:41 2022 No.52731937 >>52730417 Its just more gaslighting from CLL shills

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 18:58:05 2022 No.52732006

>>52731859
>Regardless of development, stakers have the opportunity to unstake or restake every 12 months, trustlessly
Regardless of development?
Unstaking is itself predicated on development, it literally says so in the announcements.

>>52731914
I'm seeing literally 0 broken promises.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 19:02:27 2022 No.52732036 I’m selling all of my link these guys are right this company is bullshit, what is a good crypto I can buy?

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 19:07:25 2022 No.52732079

>>52731937
Except that's quite literally what the announcement says: "Research and development is already underway for Staking v0.2, planned for release in approximately 9-12 months, at which point v0.1 stakers can unlock or migrate their staked LINK and rewards."

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 19:12:27 2022 No.52732134 File: 9 KB, 251x242, 1635155046583.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>52730430 Lost

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 19:23:31 2022 No.52732232 >>52731275 so you paid a tenth the price but went through 5 extra years of pain. I'll take my entry, thanks. Without any of the accumulated brain damage you all seem to have.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 19:23:43 2022 No.52732235 >>52711238 374 replies? That's one of the most active threads I've seen on /biz/ in a long time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 19:39:33 2022 No.52732382 >>52732235 Fudders are really going ham now that staking is so close.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 20:39:45 2022 No.52732946 >>52730918 Really good to see more people are waking up

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 20:49:50 2022 No.52733051 >>52732036 usd

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 20:54:10 2022 No.52733097 >>52731914 >implying 2023 doesn’t start on 1/1/23 what a weird fucking hill to die on kek

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