/biz/ - Business & Finance

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>>52690466
>what matters is what the other cars are doing
Global debt is in excess of 300,000,000,000,000$ which is 356% of global GDP so I'd assume the fed is just trying to get their car across the finish line even if it means doing a PIT maneuver on some of the other cars in the way.

https://youtu.be/NCx5Ph7EAxg

Am I gonna be rich bros? I have 40,000 on spx 3800p exp 12/15

>>52690543
no, reddit is super bearish right now

>>52690546
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
fuck

>>52690543
>12/15
>literally two weeks away
>trying to time the market
Lolno. Roll that shit out another three or four months and hedge it with a few calls for any bear market rallies and a possible melt-up is what I would do were I in that position. I would be freaking the fuck out if I held that position and didn't have the capital to roll it or hedge it if it failed.

>>52690555
Yeah you should sell those asap

>>52690556
but michael burry told me it was a melt down...

>>52690495
Massive correction today
Rejection of 200dma

>>52690565
Spy broke the trendline plus inflation data comes out thats going to fuel the rally

>Robinhood has 3.75% apy on uninvested cash
Should I just pull like 22k out of the bank and let it get interest then? Im already investing 10k kek

>>52690576
When is the inflation data coming?

It's gonna pullback right guys, r-right?

>>52690578
Isn't robinhood owned by Sbf?
It's probably going to file for bankruptcy soon

>>52690589
No

>futures

https://youtu.be/Ndlofuqknrk

santa bros..........he's coming home......

>>52690578
Might as well if you already have an account with them. You can get a cash card Mastercard from them and use it like a checking account too just with alot higher interest than a bank or credit union pays

>>52690583
1hr before the bell

>>52690578
Well, how does $825 sound to you?

>>52690578
Yeah man totally, hey while you're at it you should park some bitcoin with voyager or celsius too. No dude that would be a horrible idea and I wouldn't touch robinhood with someone else's dick on the end of a 10' pole. Go look at their fucking stock price and you tell me if that's someone you would trust to hold your money.
>>52690564
Bears will win in the end but the mechanism that will cause this will be the same that rockets spy to near if not a new ATH before it happens, which is why I said I would have a much farther out short position on that index and would be hedged with calls. Frankly I'd be as far out as I could afford were I shorting spy, markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.

>>52690618
yeah im just playin around nigga you KNOW im about that BULL life haha

i dont have a single short position hehe.
ESKETIT BULL BROS

Yields....

>>52690578
My ally account has like 3% and I don’t have to worry about them potentially going under.

>>52690546
>bearcope thread pinned on r/wsb
kek

>>52690663
yea we finna heem these lil bobos

>nothing changed about macro conditions to the positive
>bulls euphoric
we know what happens next

>>52690543
The probability analysis in pic related is giving you a 5% chance, without including the break even. The options data is giving you an 8% chance. But with the volatility skew on the SP 500 index, the odds are close to 3% or 4%. Again, breakeven not included.

>>52690686
This, i dont understand what goes on in mumus once again.
I literally have neighbors who were forced to sell their cars because they couldnt pay up for gas and energy.
And i live in central europe

>>52690692
do you know of a way to sort by open interest / volume of options? I've been trying to find a way to find the most activity for different dates

Euro markets are not so impressed by the Powell pump

>>52689882
>>52690673

For the Kpop fag because I posted just before the new thread
Also the earnings Q4 and Q1 will be shit, at least for semi. No reason to keep valuation this high

>>52690703
Because it was completely fake. There is no bull case for 2023 besides muh priced in. Inflation still bad. Rates still going up. Earnings still going down

>Futures

>>52690576
It's consumer spending, not inflation. Nothing that's really moved the market much in previous months.

>>52690700
What exactly do you mean? If you're talking about unusual options activity then there are websites like optionstrat and unusual whales. You can create your own scans too on ThinkOrSwim. Scanning for strikes with a volume over 1k, and an OI under 1k. Which shows a large opening order. From there you can see if it was bought or sold to open. And then try to figure out if it was a spread by sorting with put/call ratio, product depth, etc.

>>52690722

>>52690739
I'm basically just annoyed that I can't find leaps with decent bid/ask spreads easily.

So I go to look up $ASAN for instance and all the various dates should have an easy way to see if there is liquidity. A visual open interest/volume bar next to each option chain date would make my life a lot easier. Instead I have to click each option chain to see the open interest for that day and strikes.

>>52690696
>>52690686
markets bottom before the worst occurs in the economy/unemployment

>>52689882
what is an astrology day?

>>52690764
>>52690739
Something like the blue bar indicating amount of open interest is what i want

>>52690767
>inflation is bad
>this makes the valuation of securities and thus the line go up
>bulls make money on line going up even though actual value of those securities may be the same or even less than what it was when at a "lower price" in terms of units of currency
That's a meltup, for the uninitiated. Once it ends you see terrible bear markets and before it happens you see a pretty shit bear market, but in the interim going long can be profitable even if everything inside of you says it won't be. I'd still hedge my ass off if I was going long or short in this hyper-crab fake and gay market having said all of that.

>>52690767
payrolls haven't even started to go down.
we've only had one quarter of bad earnings
gdp made an ATH

so all of that would suggest we're early in the bear market.

>>52690792
No clue where to find something like that. Anyways, your puts are statistically fucked. And you should close while the IV is still high.

>>52690832
Oh yeah, I dont actually hold that lol I just wanted people to laugh

>>52690844
I thought so. But I've been drinking and I don't want to see my late night /smg/ frens lose money.

still holding 500 TQQQ at $66... am i the blackest gorilla nigger in /smg/?

holy we pumpin

>>52690722
PCE before market opens, then PMI at 10am. both will come in below expectations.

Remember LCI anon? How persistent and confident when he was shilling it at 5-10$? I wonder what happened to that retard.

>>52690599
When does a typical Santa rally end? Before or after Christmas?

I started drawing meme lines as a joke but they actually have been accurate mostly, LMAO. Going to try to flip some short dated puts

>>52690803
>in the interim going long can be profitable even if everything inside of you says it won't be.
I'm considering doing this if SPY goes through an upcoming resistance. Been sitting with like 2/3 cash for a while. Maybe I'd stoploss extremely/overly tightly though. I wouldn't be tolerant of holding a dip rn I think.

Where is SPY med-long term resistance anyways? TA fags get in here. I want you

Niggers , I am all sqqq and down 13k. Not selling

>>52690739
B00kmarked

Pce today next green candle to ath

WE DID IT

THE BEAR IS DEAD

I REPEAT

THE BEAR IS DEAD

>>52691145
>Dead
More like sleeping until the meltup is over, but ight.

>>52690989
That's the thing with meme lines. They are good for entry and exit points. They help you make desicions on momentum trading, but some people get cocky and believe they found the only thing that matters and then they get wiped when the momentum changes.

>>52690949
after xmas, its around xmas to NYE

>>52691161
This. I only look at the graph after I have my investment thesis.

>>52691170
my investment thesis is the whole system blows up

>>52691161
>but some people get cocky and believe they found the only thing that matters and then they get wiped when the momentum changes.

uh bro?
your risk management bro?
your stop loss bro?
your risk to reward ratio bro?
your backtested winrate bro?
your partial profit and moving your stop loss up to break even potentially, bro?
your position sizing, bro?
your exit indicator, bro?

how are you getting "wiped out" if you're using proper risk management?

>>52691062
I am fucking down 20% on my SOXS
This clown market is making me want to go all in on TQQQ for revenge

Good morning gentlemen. It's 3am on the west coast but I woke up from a scary dream and couldn't get back to bed.
How are you doing today?

>>52691161
At least when a meme line doesn't work it's clear something went wrong. If you get cocky about a fundamental thesis and the mark decides to be fake and gay, it's fucked.

>Tumblingstock prices marked Chapek’s tenure as CEO, as did public outrage over the company’spolitical engagementin Florida and its allegedeffortsto inject sexual content into children’s shows, particularly through gay and transgender characters.

>An employee at the town hall asked Iger about the company’s commitment to LGBT storytelling in the future, and he responded affirmatively.

>“One of the core values of our storytelling is inclusion and acceptance and tolerance, and we can’t lose that,” Iger said, according to the NYT. “We’re not going to make everyone happy all the time, and we’re not going to try to … We’re certainly not going to lessen our core values in order to make everyone happy all the time.”

is it time to bet against the Mouse?

>>52691062
Thank you for funding my lifestyle.

>>52690591

not anymore lmao
they have to liquidate for bankruptcy

>>52690696
>life in my shithole is tough therefore US economy is about to crash
imagine being this retarded

>top of wsb is bear cope and end of year targets from jew banks
extremely bullish

>>52691402
do you expect him to say "GO WOKE GO BROKE"
what he says and what he will do can be very different things. they cut out the gay stuff for china dude...

>have to go into the office for the first time in 3 years

Is it a risk to keep holding ETFs? I'm in a forex ETF (SGB3)

>futures
>>24062696

dont get too cocky bullchuds

OIL chads

>>52691557
Yes, anon.
There's risk to any investment

if you invested in internet and mobile phone stocks in the 90s and early 2000s you would have lost everything

>>52691443
>The company also came under fire after videos leaked by Manhattan Institute senior fellow Christopher Rufo appeared to reveal internal meetings with executives in which employees boasted about their plans to inject sexual content into children’s shows, with an executive producer allegedlythankingthe company’s leadership for being very welcoming of her “not-at-all-secret gay agenda.”

>Just before Thanksgiving Day, the Walt Disney Co. released “Strange World,” a $180 million animated film that critics raved about because it featured a gay relationship between two teenage boys.
>“This [relationship] is an inherent part of the storyline,” the website Deadline noted in a review.
>Yet audiences apparently did not want that story.
>The Hollywood Reporter noted on Sunday that the movie “bombed with a five-day opening of $18.6 million after receiving a mediocre B CinemaScore.”
>“That’s the worst opening for a Disney Animation Thanksgiving title in modern times after getting pummeled by poor word-of-mouth, and the first of the studio’s to earn anything less than an A- grade from CinemaScore,” the Reporter added.
>This is the second big-ticket, prominently LGBTQ-themed film that has flopped for Disney this year.

lol. lmao, even.

>>52690495
well anons, started a consulting job and no longer allowed to trade securities without informing boss man what im selling/buying which I can't bothered to do
I wish you all godspeed

>futures

so all the gains from yesterday are gonna be gone by close today?

>>52691623
Not the oil gains

I should have fomo'd into tech when I had the chance. I'm getting heemed left right and centre. Took a 30% loss on oil a few days ago.

>>52691623
I hope so
>>52691638
I double hope so.

>>52691623
the pump from the last CPI was at least a reason for mumus to buy it all but the Jpow speech yesterday and this meltup was just retarded. of course we will lose all those gains today

>>52691654
why you do that to yourself

Another day. Will today see more green flow into my greedy hands or will a big stinky show up instead. Oh well its all good no mater what.

>>52691623
Santa Claus is coming to town.

>>52691145
I'll believe it when SPY is above 432.

>>52691686
how much $$$ do you get out of divies on those positions?
last time you posted KO size which was just 15k or something.
can't be that much overall annual?

i'm a permabull and i'm not ashamed about it

I closed out my YANG position for a minor gain.
After watching their markets all night, I don't think it's quite ready / I was a little premature
Happy to take the small gains, rather than a large loss
Will be mad if FXI shits the bed today / tomorrow / into Monday and I sold prematurely, but it is what it is

>>52691695
But what color are his presents, red or green?

>>52691724
Right now it's like 732 something. Two of them though don't pay out anything. But it's all good. Small today turns into something large after 25+ years. If things turn ugly again during the first part of next year (as they're saying will happen) I'll bag more.

>>52691168
One year I sold everything on Dec 29 and it continued pumping until Jan 10. Would have gained more hadtn I sold. So dont sell all on a certain day, rather have your sell list ready and watch it closely.

>>52691815
how much $ do you have in overall?
I'm in the process of switching from a degenerate 20x margin gambler to a second no margin divies only account, I opened a second one already and just wait for le big crash next year to build it up with KO, VZ, XOM, etc.. goal is to have equal weighting 5-7 sectors portfolio with the biggest boomer stocks you can imagine in industries like communications, healthcare, staples, utilities, energy, REITs,..
I'm still going to gamble with smaller amount but I need to deploy 6 figures somewhere because I'm getting old (mid 30s) and will buy a house next year.

>>52691740
i bet you suck dicks too faggot

>>52691740
>permabull
>not ashamed
Are you ready for the pull back, buck-o?

>>52691668
You see the Nasdaq losing 4% today? maybe 2% but i doubt 4

>>52691910
Uh I think right now the value of it all is 25k give or take. I've got a pension as my main line of income (that and a 401k) when retirement time rolls around so it's not like I gotta have this tossing out 5,000 a month or anything like that.

>>52691740
I, too, enjoy unprotected sex with strangers in dark alleys

???

>we're actually in the middle of a channel
>going up
very bullish

>>52691596
Looks like this just means Strange World will shift early to DVD release, plus a crash project for the Disney park exhibit.

>>52692029
>You see the Nasdaq losing 4% today?
depends on today's economic prints (PCE & jobless claims) in 45 min.

I want a hundred million dead chinks by this time next year.

Currently down 33% on a tesla short. When will this turn?

>>52692059
This is a clown market
good number -> pump, bullish, economy is good
bad number -> spin it as a sign of demand and inflation slowing, giga pump

I swear if I somehow go all in on TQQQ, the reverse will happen

which one is gonna go up today? soxl or soxs? sqqq or t?

>>52692044
Don't worry about it.

>>52692078
Gweilos are with you on this one your excellency

>>52691668
>Powell says focus lies on pce
>pce comes in lower
just buy already

>>52691704
>432
Ah yes the frequency of life. Good choice of strike

>>52692033
sounds good. for me I just have one "steady" income stream (job) so a small 4 figure annual dividend would be nice besides some emergency fund

>>52692059
Yeah will be a fun day no matter what i guess

I just bought 58k worth of TQQQ and UPRO. Let's do this.

Apparently the industry heard Powell say
>Cut Jobs you niggers
new ath by end of year

>>52692091
if PCE comes in higher and/or jobless lower then the market can't honk it's way up another 4%
risk/reward for buying right now is shit

After extensive research and mt advanced TA skills I've come to the conclusion that the market will either go up or down today

>>52692372
I have to agree. My analysis shows no signs of crustaceans today

>>52692372
>>52692380
My latest research indicates the complete collapse of American economy in about 4 minutes and 1 hour.

>>52692320
job cuts exceeded the expectations, pce comes in even lower and jobless claims higher. 4%. Bobo gets raped by a 10% daily candle

3 minutes..

>>52692304
Holy kek, it's actually over for bears.

LETS GOOOOO

>>52691604
Friend of mine is in a similar situation. All he can do (without too much red tape) is investing in a handful of the largestm well-known ETFs. He still gets to decide how much money he invests each month so he can tweak it slightly by buying more when market is down. Overall, he will probably still outperform most investors...

Fuck

>>52692192
>pce comes in lower
Where do you see that in the image you posted?

https://www.forexlive.com/news/us-october-pce-core-inflation-50-vs-50-expected-20221201/
Prior was +5.1% (revised to 5.2%)
PCE core MoM +0.2% vs +0.3% expected
Prior MoM +0.5%
Headline PCE +6.0% vs +6.2% expected (prior +6.2%)
Deflator MoM +0.3% vs +0.5% expected (prior +0.3%)
Consumer spending and income for October:

Personal income +0.7% vs +0.4% expected. Prior month +0.4%
Personal spending +0.8% vs +1.0% expected. Prior month +0.6%
Real personal spending +% vs +0.3% prior

>>52692445
right is forecast, second from the risght is consensus, left is actual numbers, second from left is previous readings

and I was wrong...

>>52692451
I think the most important part of this report is core PCE coming in at +0.2% MoM
which is a rate which is sustainable for 2% inflation

>>52692432
heckin bullish

Why won't the labor market crack?

>DXY in free fall

so who got heemed?

>>52692467
not really, more meh. Personal spending and income rising respectively staying flat.
jobless claims coming in cold
pce yoy higher than expected
only mom pce is good

BUY BUY BUY

>>52692078
Some woman from Chinese govt has just said that they are taking a more "humane approach" from now on. What did she mean by this?
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinese-vice-premier-urges-improvements-covid-measures-pathogenicity-weakens-2022-12-01/

>>52692469
Why would it? Cosumer spending is still good. Powell needs to do more.

>>52692459
>which is a rate which is sustainable for 2% inflation
As long as you ignore the last three years of gorillion% inflation, oy vey only 2% more inflation after the currency has already turned into toilet paper

Bros I'm feeling really fucking good.

>>52692496
if every month for the next 12 months had 0.2% MoM, then we would have 2.426% inflation for the year - if this can be sustained moving forward, we are on the path to target 2% inflation in the Fed mandate
this is what the Fed wants - and what the market looks at and cares about
the destruction of the dollar (and all currencies) is another issue

Bros...

>>52692469
Companies laid off way too many people after COVID hit and they can’t make up for it now. With boomers on their way out of the labor force for good, companies are deathly afraid of losing any Gen X and Millennial employees they have left. Gen Z is on the way, but they’re smaller than the boomers, so it’s still not good enough

reminder that bears always overstay their welcome

I can't believe the bear market is over, I'm gonna buy as much TQQQ as I can at opening.

>>52692493
BEIJING, Dec 1 (Reuters) - Chinese Vice Premier Sun Chunlan called for further efforts to improve COVID-19 prevention and control measures, urging "optimisation" of testing, treatment and quarantine policies...
"The country is facing a new situation and new tasks in epidemic prevention and control as the pathogenicity of the Omicron virus weakens, more people are vaccinated and experience in containing the virus is accumulated," she said on Wednesday according to Xinhua.
Sun said the government has "always put people's health and safety first, and effectively dealt with the uncertainties of the COVID-19 situation with a consistent strategy and flexible measures to fight the virus"...
She also said the country needs to improve immunization of the entire population. The government recently announced that it would increase vaccine rates for its elderly and children...
The country is also taking a more "humane approach" to tackling infection outbreaks.
Guangdong's provincial capital of Guangzhou, where riots and dispruptions recently made headlines, lead the way for the changes, easing restrictions and also allowing close contacts of COVID cases to quarantine at home...
The cities of Chongqing and Dongguan, also in Guangdong, announced that close contacts of infected patients can also home quarantine.
One district in the Inner Mongolia city of Ordos temporarily halted all COVID testing on Thursday due to "the cold weather", with state media saying the move demonstrates the "humane" side of epidemic control.

Imagine being a bear right now.
I just couldn't.

You're supposed to wait couple days BEFORE FOMC, not WEEKS.

HEEMED

How?
At these levels even if the base effect come by, the prople will demand rising wages, prices wont come down, and amount for consooom is shrinking.
even if inflation is down ,we get our stagflation and recession.
nothing changed and the future is still dark

Ohhh nooooo boboooooo LMAOOOO

>>52692541
Powell mentioned yesterday that the labor market might have lost not a small number of people that retired early due to the money printer pumping everything, and a lot of those are genx and millenial, that whyt I think on top of it were over critical of the coof regime by boomers.

The real economy is fucked. inflation is coming down and the wealth gap will only increase

>>52692564
we're hitting ath eoy

>>52692451
So are you really going to tell me this is bullish?

>>52692303
Niiiiice

>>52692527
But the inflation since covid printing has been so high that the inflation going forward would need to be well below 2% for years and years to fit the "2% over a period of time" mandate. Major currencies and the first world middle class that's keeping the consoomonomy running have been heemed to oblivion since 2020.

It's increasingly likely that the future will be a complete dystopian nightmare sooner rather than later because the only real option to revalue our currencies (the total liquidation of the elite) is unlikely to happen.

>>52692554
Fuck the chinks are not going to have a revolution anymore
Xi cucked out

>>52692576
how isn't it?

>>52690495
>2 more months and I will be 30yo
>just started saving money this year
I dont think hoarding ETFs will do bros.. there is no way in hell I make to 50s-60s and cash out.

How do I cope

>>52692569

all I need now is for the bong currency to tank and my mostly US portfolio is golden, I miss Kwartang lads

>>52692589
You wait for a once-in-a-generation crash and dump as much money as you can into the market

>>52692592
I know I’m just trolling mate, I have a few puts myself

>>52692044
Stop being anti semetic

>>52692602
yea, and he missed that lmao

>>52692588
jobless claims lower, personal income higher (inflationary)
doesn't look bullish to me

>>52692584
You forgot that the dollar is quickly collapsing in value as a result of the feds loosening up so America is about to get turbo fucked by the rising cost of import goods, hence more inflation. But the market will reach aths cause clown world

SPY 340 PUTS FEBRUARY

BUYING ONCE SPY EDGES TO $405.
TOP RANGE: 405-410.

>DAY 315 OF THE BEAR MARKET
>MARKET ONLY -16.1%
>200MA STILL EXTREMELY BEARISH
>1970s INFLATION HISTORY REPEATS
>PCI SLIGHT FALL, SECOND RISE WILL COME
>PIVOT NOT COMING UNTIL Q3 2023 EARLIEST
>MORE TECH LAY OFFS INCOMING
>UK, EUROPEAN UNION COUNTRIES ANNOUNCE OFFICIALLY IN RECESSION NEXT QUARTER
>FTX WILL CAUSE MORE CEX BREAKDOWNS, SPILLOVER FROM SMALL TRADE FUNDS BEING LIQUIDATED
>EARNINGS GETTING WORSE BY THE QUARTER
>CONSUMER SPENDING SLIGHT FALL WHILE PRICES KEEP RISING
>CENTRAL BANK BALANCE SHEETS NEED TO CRAB TO SUPPRESS INCREASED GOV INTEREST PAYMENTS

BEAR MARKET WILL CAUSE MUCH, MUCH WORSE THAN CURRENT 16.1% DROP
HOWEVER CURRENT SAFE BET IS DROP TO 340 ON NEXT LEG

>DOTCOM 40% DROP
>2008 55% DROP
>COVID 31% DROP

WHY US GOV CANNOT CONTAIN THE CRASH
>GOV INTEREST PAYMENTS ABOUT TO EXCEED DEFENSE DEP BUDGET
>$31T DEBT, 5% INTEREST RATES NOT VIABLE FOR NEW BONDS
>LET ALONE NEEDED 10% INTEREST
>MATURING DEBT ROLLS OVER AT NEW RATES
>CBO SCORES WILL SHOCK MARKET
>TREASURY CAN TRY BUYING OWN BONDS, WILL FAIL
>FED CANNOT PRINT BAILOUTS UNLESS DEBT DEATH SPIRAL
>DEATH SPIRAL OUTCOME: LOSING RESERVE STATUS
>RESERVE STATUS MUST BE MAINTAINED, BONDS MUST BE PAID
>MARKET MUST BE CRASHED AS SACRIFICE

THANK ME LATER

>>52692589
You leverage up.

>>52690495
I got rekt on SPY puts bc I doubled down at 405 yesterday. Held them overnight bc SURELY WE RETRACE...
Bitcoin is getting heemed, so I have hope. Hope rope or cope. One of those opes.

>>52692643
Honk honk. We pump today cause shelksburg isn't finished liquidating shorts. The whole market has just become GME

>>52692593
it sucked trying to acoomulate more US stocks with monopoly money last 2 months though

>>52692654
didnt read , bears tongue my anus

oh baby okta still creeping up extra percentages in pre

>>52692656
all i wanted was to be rich enough for a girl like this to love me

>>52692656
you probably need a 7 figure portfolio for her to even look at you

>>52692584
as long as we are moving in the path towards 2% inflation, the market will be happy, the Fed will be happy
if in 2023 the impact of the hikes manifests where it impacts the economy, then the Fed can ease
however, if the impacts come too soon, in Q1 or Q2, the Fed will have a tough decision as if they ease prematurely without hitting above 5% terminal rate it will get worse

>>52692657
Fiat currencies
Treasury Bonds
Index funds
Commodities
Commodity index funds
Large cap stocks
Large cap bonds
Small cap stocks
Small cap bonds
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checking accounts
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lottery tickets
.
.
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wagies
.
.
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Cryptocurrency

>>52692656
Women like that wouldnt even spit on me if I was on fire no matter how much money I have

We gonna hold and keep pumping or what?

There are anons in this very thread doubling down on their short positions. Let that sink in.

my little Direxion Daily 20+ Year Treasury 3 times leveraged bull fund is doing something.

good morning sirs
fuck brandon
fuck jerome
fuck bulls

>>52690495
anyone have a discrepancy with TD or another broker that has the "cost per share" as a different price than the price you bought the stock for? Of course it is having me be the one loosing money. Example: actually bought XZY at $13.55 but on account overview shows I bought at $14.35.

sirs why are we reversing?

>>52692656
When I see pretty women staring at cameras and posing like that it turns me off so much. It's such a learned narcissistic behavior. Maybe you armchair PUAs will disagree but I think you guys are consistently disappointed by women because you ignore shit like this and get distracted by the pretty face.

>>52692731
did you sell? american brokers use FIFO or the opposite and not cost adjusted i think

>>52692078
I really dont see the resemblance bewtween poobear and that chink guy
Maybe im not squinting hard enough

>>52692717
I already doubled down yesterday, after the first pop on Jpow speech. was obviously way too early should have expected the schizos buying it all
oh well, seems like the hibernation phase will just take some time longer

>>52692711
no. slight correction and crab

>>52690146
There are a couple flaws in your logic:
1. The fed is already net tightening (allowing assets to mature or selling them off)
2. It takes 3-4 years of continuous high rates for the majority of US sovereign debt to roll over
3. Infinite QE would eventually results in treasury rates mooning as the dollar becomes increasingly worthless. See argentina
4. The federal government isn't yet guaranteed to default. There is still a few years of window to do actual fiscal austerity, run a surplus, and save itself from the collapse.

It's clear that japan style infinite QE causes the currency to devalue tremendously in the US. So we need another plan. Fiscal austerity is probably the only viable plan to even successfully kick the can down the road.

Don't let euphoria cloud your judgement. This is a bear market rally. Bad news will become bad news again when the market understands that high rates are here to stay. Slowing the pace of rate hikes is not a pivot. Pausing and holding is not a pivot. The Fed promised us pain and they will deliver.

>>52692745
Clown market
BTC just had a big dump from the CPE data
PCE came in lower than expected which is whatt Jpow wants
This should be bullish

>>52692788
>Slowing the pace of rate hikes is not a pivot
LMAO FULL COPE

>>52692779
My man you've nailed the 90's economic paradigm but I regret to inform you that we are living in 2010+12

>You thought the SP 500 would go to 0.

What the FUCK is going on? My company's stock is up over 5%

>>52692809
The federal government was not even remotely close to default in the 90s

>DXY 104.97

>>52692788
How high can interest rates go before the US government can no longer pay the interest on it's debts?

>>52692788
The market is forward looking and anticipates Jpow's future dovishness and ultimate capitulation. The market is pricing in the fact that the Fed cannot raise rates significantly from here without bankrupting the treasury.

>>52692837
>>52692779

>>52692779
It's a good mental exercise to show that whatever the feds do its gonna cause pain. Your timelines are correct, which is what a lot of doomers don't mention

>>52692048
You literally just drew a random box what does this have to do with anything

>>52692837
>how long until the guys who print their own money run out of their own money
gee idk, a few weeks?

>>52692048
>mfw the entire pump has been dxy getting rekt

>>52692486
Powell's been intentionally talking it down for the past 2 months.
Pretty obvious that they don't want it pushing any higher from this point. Rising dollar was the only thing holding inflation back somewhat though, so it also means there's less chance of that truly normalizing.

>>52690495
>yesterday we pumped for a nothing burger
>today we will dump for good news
Check them

>>52692856
Look at the blue line. The blue line trades in a channel. Everybody is looking at the green line but don't understand that the blue line matters more. We're in the middle of the blue line's channel, and we're going up, ergo the blue line might well touch the top of its channel.

WHY IS TSLA SO BULLISH

>Japan has infinite QE
>has low inflation
Explain

>>52692861
I don't think they are at Full Weimar yet. So rate hikes and servicing debt have to be balanced.

>>52692747
Agreed it’s pretty cringe. I was taking some pics for a group of girls a couple weekends ago and one of them immediately wanted solo pics and starts doing random poses like this, nearly died of cringe

>>52692867
That just means there's more room to pump even higher. Heckin' bullish!

>>52692850
yeah but some flavors of pain result in the golden bull run and others result in nikkei 1991

>>52692886
no immigrants, population that is 60% old people, people don't spend money

>>52690663
Wow dude that's so good for us bullbros! You know when reddit is bearish its time to heckin buy! Hey by the way would you mind going back to wsb and see what else they are saying? Maybe stay there for the rest of the day doing recon?

>>52692837
About a third of bonds are short term meaning they are redeemable in less than a year. The feds have about 9 trillion they can roll-over before they have to reissue at higher rates so about 2~3 years before things go ballestic. I'd say if the feds don't have a handle on inflation within a year, the country is fucked

>>52692841
If the Fed paused right now and held rates at 4% that would be enough to crash the world economy. The Fed will get to a 5% FFR as they promised.
>The market is forward looking and anticipates Jpow's future dovishness
This is a mass delusion that has created a delusional narrative out of nowhere. The Fed has been consistently hawkish. The speech yesterday was hawkish, not dovish. The Fed is transparent in their plans. They will hold rates higher for longer after they allowed inflation to run hot for longer. They will overtighten and not undertighten. They will hike even if there is a recession. The delusion will eventually fade and you'll realize that the bear market has only begun.

>>52692812
I will start closing my s&p shorts at around 3.2k and dip my toes into some bags, ride it down to possible 3k overshoot while selling the rest of my short positions and begin the full slurping process

>>52692894
nice thesis but I doubt it. bear markets don't break out of their channel without actually ending
and macro does not support bear market ending

>>52692754
no basically I bought XZY for $13.55 and the next day on my account summary area it is showing my "cost per share" for XYZ is $14.55. Hopefully these brokers aren't cheating. I am contacting them today.

>>52692886
Japan's demographic collapse is deflationary I think, there's some balancing act going on.

>>52692909
If the channel is pretty much horizontal, then is it really a bear market, or is it a crab market in cleaver disguise?

>>52692886
>Japan has infinite QE
>has low inflation
Hmm a certain group of people is almost completely absent from the country and their currency doesn't get debased, really makes you think.

>>52692897
>>52692886
basically instead of banks injecting printer money into the general population the infinite QE purely goes to service the national debt. The only entity that actually uses the money printer in japan is the government. In the US when the fed does ZIRP and QE it inflates a bubble in every single asset class and the cheap money trickles down to the poorest nigger.

>>52692885
Why didn’t you follow the meme lines?

>>52692922

>>52692825
if it fails again to hit my target again, I get pissy

test

>>52692881
Bruh the blue line literally breaks your channel pretty significantly in one spot. Again how does this mean anything

>futures

>>52692928
please no

>>52692822
We aren't now either and if you think the US is ever going to default on its debt you should liquidate your holdings today

>>52692886
japanese people culturally reject inflation
>japan
>APPURU COSTS MORE? I REFUSE

>usa
>THIS GAD DAMN APPLE DONE GONE UP IN PRICE, I WILL BUY THEM ANYWAY AND THEN COMPLAIN ON REDDIT

>>52692837
Chuck Schumer and Mitch are going to raise the debt ceiling and throw the country under the omnibus in a few weeks. The democrats intentionally failed to fund the government for the full year, so they would be able to force one more big ass spending package through a 50 vote reconciliation before they lose the gavel in the house. It's disgusting, but shits going to get worse because these fucking commies are addicted to spending other people's money.

>>52692949
my inner incel is seething at this

>>52692935
ah yes of course I know exactly what all those lines are

>>52692886
Negative wage growth.

>>52692949
Why is this white man sleeping with an Asian woman on the grass?
I know they told us to touch grass but

Should i go long again? Is it risky at this point when everything goes up no matter what

>>52692902
That’s what I don’t get with these pumps, it was the same with the last minutes, he says nothing but bearish things about how they’re going to overtighten and not pivot and every idiot in here and apparently Wall Street in general takes that as a buy signal. It’s like he could come out and announce the end of the world and the market would pump.

Press F or S.

>>52692970
They're watching a motor race!

>>52692916
small update: I read that it could be calculating the the loss from a previous purchase and sale at a loss that I made on the stock.

>>52692970
Camping out at Le Mans listening to the race on headphones. Pretty comfy

>>52692981
F
RIP my nigga bobo he dindu nuffin, just wanted to heem the jew controlled markets

>>52692970
looks white

>>52692976
He literally said he isn't going to crash the stock market and laughed while he said it. His mood was totally different this time and if you didn't catch the dovish moments you weren't paying attention

>>52692994
>listening to the race on headphones
lmao they're not headphones

>>52693005
You're right I'm retarded. Gonna blame it on not having enough coffee yet

>>52692976
you are biased. The last meeting conference on the 2nd november was ambivalent to bearish. Instead of target rates he said only 2% goal. Over the month the fomc members clarified that no terminal rate being named is not an issue because reduced pace. Yesterday that narrative got repeated again with a roadmap for the private economy to get there by cutting jobs and not rise wages, and the promise that crashing the economy is not the goal.
Of course that is bullish

>>52692976
They're liquidating puts is all. The market was heavily shorted by retail investors and it was wall streets way of making a quick buck. Once there are enough longs they will crash the market

test

>OIL bros

>>52692902
>If the Fed paused right now and held rates at 4% that would be enough to crash the world economy
I used to believe this, but when you consider how far behind the Fed is on raising rates above the real inflation rate, we are actually in a more stimulative environment now than we were when rates were at zero and inflation was below 2%. Money is still as cheap as ever, and the Fed is likely only going to succeed in averting hyperinflation even if the terminal rate goes above 5%.

>>52692981
I dunno how to feel cause the macro conditions still suck but some of these bears were obnoxious as fuck

>>52693003
Powell was "dovish" before the July rally too and then came back with Jackson Hole after the market rallied. He's not a good speaker but the theme is the same:
>we let inflation run hotter for longer
>now we will hold rates higher for longer to meet our goal

>>52692976
The market cannot accept that the Fed will hold rates higher for longer because that means the free money game will end. With no free money the stock market has to be radically repriced. These are pumps fueled by disbelief.

>>52693053
Remember that Buy Puts Now guy? Lel.

>>52692975
not until interest rates stop going up
which they haven't
don't fight the Fed

>>52692960
kek, well so long as Uncle Joe pays for my applied mathematics degree I'm fine.

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>>52693065
>This rally is going to fail like tzhose before

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>>52693078
> 12/01/22(Thu)23:30:00
How does he do it bros?

Holy shit you guys a melt up just flew over my house

>>52693028
That has been the Fed's message from the beginning. Get to a restrictive level, hold the rates, and hope for a soft landing. There has been no dovish pivot or even hints of a pivot from the Fed. The market has simply repackaged what the Fed has said all along into a delusional dovish narrative. 5% FFR is not dovish.

>Even that shitter BALL is bouncing
This is probably bad but LET'S FUCKIN GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

>>52693067
>I'm right and everyone else is wrong 15 or more times in 1 thread
It's ok to be a bear but come on

>>52693116
We are crabbing straight upwards!

>>52693051
>we are actually in a more stimulative environment
Money supply is decreasing and dollars are getting more expensive. We would only be in a stimulatory environment if everyone was still getting free money. Now we're in an environment of permanently elevated prices, low wage growth, high interest rates, and QT. A stimulatory environment for a heavily debt based economy is QE + ZIRP.

Am i the only one who went long x15 at the opening scam dump and already up 4%?

>>52693116

>>52693101
You are biased and fail to see that the market participants are acting in tandem with the fed, following its roadmap, cutting jobs, not rising wages, do their part reducing production and depressing demand. The trend is clear, 2% and the way there is also clear, so no uncertainty doubt or fear, smooth sailing from here. You are still in fear, or more of my suspicion, are a bear shill that hasnt finished accumulating and tries to scream the market down

Should I go against the greed play now and slurp the SQQQ dip at 40?

If DXY goes below 104.64 it will beat the August lows, then we'll be back to June levels.

>>52693160
Do you guys pronounce it "dee ecks why" or Dixie?

>>52693174
The former, not that I ever talk about that with real people.

>>52693157
inflation is still high
rates are still rising
earnings are still decreasing

you are delusional, but think you are genius because you are on the correct side of the line movement

BUDDY
LOOK AT BOND COMPUTER
IT'S PUMPING TOO

>>52693158
Depends on how you feel about sentiment here. If you think it's too bullish it's time to buy

>>52693137
>>52693101
Lmao this fucking cope

>>52693174
I call it the nigger why, because it always acts like a nigger and you ask yourself, why

kek, and there ends the rally, can't hold shit, what a piece of shit market

>>52693158
I think itd be wise to expect a correction to this scam pump but the market doesn't follow logic so I don't know

DUMP YOU MOTHERFUCKER

>>52693157
>are a bear shill that hasnt finished accumulating
I'm all in on treasury bonds. I win either way so it's easier to see when the market is irrationally euphoric. I don't enter short positions.
>cutting jobs, not rising wages, do their part reducing production and depressing demand
None of that is good for risk assets. Especially when the Fed has pledged to overtighten and to hike even if there is a recession. You're still operating under the assumption that bad news is good news. That gets blown away when you realize that the Fed pivot won't happen until there is real pain.

>>52693190
This is a joke my grandpa would make.

>>52693182
>earnings are decreasing
LOL

>>52693182
Yoy growth rate is trending down, very clearly
rates with a terminal rate at 5% with some 5.xx% inflation and the last 1.4% in rates increases not yet materialized.
one or two bad earning seasons dont mean the end of the world

you had one year bobo

I just want baba to dump to zero
Is there anything wrong with that?

>>52693207
I don't want the entire market to dump, just tech. Until it is a smoldering pile of absolute shit. The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

>>52692960
If we had a little austerity, then the Fed wouldn’t need to tighten so much.

>>52693231
yeah dude, earning are getting shitty
>t. china stops ordering our diebonders since 2 Q

>>52693242
>treasury bonds
still amazon, microsoft and other big tec dumped 10 to 20 percent on bad earnings....
ok ... if you say so

>>52693211
>pledged to overtighten and to hike even if there is a recession
you missed a week of fomc members touring and saying the exact opposite, minutes confirming this and powell going on brookings and confirming again that they wont over tighten. You are litterally still arguing from the point of 2nd November 2022. Its december

>>52693259
Tech will lead the crash and then dab out to let the rest of the market keep crashing while it rebounds

>>52693147
Lt. Crab, you ain't got no claws.

>>52693274
Stop it anon, I can only get so hard

>>52693242
>one or two bad earning seasons dont mean the end of the world
Since 2008 the world economy has depended upon ZIRP and the support of the Fed to operate. The V shaped recovery in 2020 was because the Fed started unlimited QE. Market participants have yet to understand the dramatic effects 5% FFR + QT will have on a debt dependent world.

>>52693274
Man, I don't want to buy stinky tech bags.

Utilities really give her all she's got
that's a bad sign btw

And just like that, I am making money again! I'm sorry!

>>52693270
yield has been trending down on short term for a week, on long term it crashed two weeks ago

I still think the fed will pivot next year, but we'll make newer lows. My bonds will appreciate greatly while equitykeks get heemed

I CANNOT STAND THIS FUCKING GAME
IM PLAYING BOTH SIDES AND THIS SCHIZOPHRENIC MARKET STILL FUCKS MY ASSHOLE DRY DUDE

>>52693273
>history cautions strongly against prematurely loosening policy
>we will stay the course until the job is done
Until the Fed rejects those statements the narrative is the same.

it's a lot less volatile than i expected what's going on

>>52693291
>think about le V shape
trying to invoke what you stereotypical thinking shill consider shared memories is a pathetic to try to support your emotional argument. Buy puts, post position

>>52693174
"Dick see"

>>52693317
Treasury bond chads will inherit the economy

>SHOP
Pretty soon, I will be pic related

>>52693329
>Buy puts, post position
I'm all in on treasury bonds. I don't enter short positions.
>trying to invoke what you stereotypical thinking shill consider shared memories is a pathetic to try to support your emotional argument
I have no idea what you just wrote. Are you denying that we had a V shaped recovery in 2020?

>>52693334
>Telling women about your assets
DEFINITELY NGMI

>>52693334
h-hot

>>52693304
>>52693320
Lost $40 in my gambling account on Powell not taking a hawkish turn at the end of his speech, made $2,000 in my 401, and about another grand in my other accounts.

I got your V shape recovery right here

he baked?

>>52693324
what do u mean? this has been the pattern for months. 1 giant green dildo, followed by weeks of fkn crab

are you okay bobo?

4200?

I'm in 450 SQQQ @$40.98

>>52693380
>are you okay bobo?
Yes, but should be euphoric

>>52693345
>I hold bonds
now? if you are convinced of your bias why buy now and not wait to get some with better rates?
>Le v shape
maybe you do it unconciously which would be even more a sign of your npc mind. Its a typical womenly way to argue by invoking a special event which is considered shared memory to support generalized argumentation by making it emotional

come on smg.............. s or l today................

the previous spy high was 410, we're going there to create a double top for a massive crash in 5 minutes

>>52693410
410 in September I mean

>>52693334
Why wasn’t this spread around the Internet at the time? Obvious top signal.

>>52693406
Slurp the SOXS dip
Marvell will miss expectation and the whole semicon sector will dump

Anyone know what special regulations that night be in place to restrict such buy?

>>52693430
don't know where you live but in europe mifid 2 makes it difficult to buy american etf

>>52693410
on what news retard?

>>52693405
>if you are convinced of your bias
I'm convinced that the FFR will be held higher for longer and force a radical repricing in the stock market. Intermediate and long term bond yields are dependent on future growth and inflation expectations, not the FFR.
>Its a typical womenly way to argue by invoking a special event which is considered shared memory to support generalized argumentation by making it emotional
This makes no sense. Please learn to write your thoughts coherently.

We will have a pullback don't buy this right now. Unless you are a degenerate gambler.

Please don't bake
I want to remember /smg/ this way forever

>>52693464
>>52693464
>>52693464
>>52693464

>>52693450
I succeeded buying TQQQ literally a few minutes before trying this so it probably isn't problem related to US ETF in general

>>52693457
never selling
>>52693392
you can do better, bro

>>52693452
ism number

>>52691252
wtf are those?

>>52693410
Kek , it dumped 5min after

>>52693454
>expects rates to go to the moon and stay there
>expects earnings to crater
>expects a recession
>expects sticky inflation but not hyper inflation
>Goes balls deep into bonds now
makes no sense

>invokes that a recovery, le v shaped one only possible with qe and zirp
>no qe no zirp no recovery
you are a woman npc

>>52693513
>makes no sense
This is because you don't understand how the treasury market works. Take some time to understand the basics before posting again.
>expects sticky inflation
No, I expect deflation.
>expects earnings to crater
>expects a recession
Yes
>expects rates to go to the moon and stay there
I said that the FFR will go to 5% and stay there. Intermediate and long term yields are a different story.