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>want to learn how to code
>tried it before
>got the hang of html and css
>but then life kept hitting me with shit that I had to stop (loss of job, loss of gf, moved back with parents, errands for parents, doctors for parents, etc)
>moved on
>34 now
>want to learn to code again (will probably start with React this time)
>but only have 2 hours a day to practice

Is 2 hours a day enough practice to get a job in code in about 1 year, or should I use those 2 hours to learn a different skill?

>> No.52639430

>>52639356
Yes. Learn the fundamentals and practise your knowledge by building applications and side projects. Build up a portfolio on Github and spend the last few weeks/months applying to junior/entry level positions and doing daily Leetcode to have a better chance at passing technical interviews.

Important thing is to be consistent and keep going at it. The question to you is - do you want this?

>> No.52639504

>>52639430
>doing daily Leetcode to have a better chance at passing technical interviews.
Absolutely. I've heard this a few times but those few times seems like it sounds like GOLD. Thanks anon.
>The question to you is - do you want this?
Yes I do.

>> No.52639559

>>52639430
Another thing to note is that the job market for junior/entry level positions is very tough right now. After the lockdowns in 2020, many people have realised that you can have a career working from home and get paid a decent salary. At this level you are competing with graduates, bootcamp developers, self-taught developers, and recent layoffs. I'm not saying it's impossible to get a job, you just be realistic and set your expectations. You will need to show to recruiters and employers that you are worth more than other candidates and that's where your portfolio and leetcode grinding come in play if you don't have experience or a degree. Once you have a decent amount of knowledge, start applying to many vacancies. It's a numbers game. Good luck.

>> No.52639572

If you have a college degree, yes. Otherwise, lmao no.

>> No.52639582

nigger you are 34 and asking 32 year old virgins on a lolicon enthusiast website wther you should learn to code
brother
you're fone, full stop. Okay you are a loser.
it doesn't matter why or what happned for you end up like this
If you are seriously 34 and wondering wther you should learn 2 code, you fucked up somewhere in life about 14 years ago or so

YOU ARE A FAGGOT LOSER
go code or don't it literally doesn't fucking matter for you. Do whatever the fuck you want bro.

If you want my opnion, you should learn to code so you can teach your kid to code by college and he will be much less of a loser then you.
There are 14 year olds stealing $10s of million from liquidity bridges and hacking nvidia driver source code.

>> No.52639597

>>52639582
This guy ukraines

>> No.52639632

>>52639582
This desu. If you're a fucking nigger above 15yo and you didn't make at least 50 million developing crypto ponzis and launching instagram e-machine learning marketing ventures, just take a deep breath and kill yourself. You are worthless and wasting AWS bandwidth just by typing the failures of your life.

PS: cut parallel to the veins, if not the tendons will block the razor.

>> No.52639664

>>52639356
best way to learn is to have a goal you want to achieve that requires programming/coding. so try and find tutorials that get you to build a project that actually does something.
this is partly what they do in bootcamps and college courses alongside explaining the terminology and general ideas.
javascript is an awful language imo, but if you learn it you'll understand the basic c-derived style which a lot of the others use, and if you're interested in web development its not a bad place to begin.
give it a go and see if it activates your almonds, cos you need to maintain that kind of reward if you want to make it into your day job.
good luck.

>> No.52639715

>>52639356
>2 hours
don't waste your time if you are not serious

>> No.52639727

>>52639430
>>52639356
Dont a TON of programming positions want you to have a bachelors/associates degree to apply?

>> No.52639879

>>52639727
They do, but not all of them. Graduates may have a bachelor's degree under their belt but they might not have done much programming as part of their course. That's where the technical interview comes in play. A degree may show to an employer that you're dedicated and spent three or so years to earn that degree and it can land you job interviews, but what good is a piece of paper to them when you can't code for shit or have the desire to work in this field? If OP really wants a job in this industry, he needs to seriously grind it out and be more favourable over other candidates.

I work for a company that does graduate schemes. I sit close to some of the new hires in the office and I overhear some of them know the very basics of programming.

>> No.52640154

>>52639356
Buy a web dev course on udemy for $20. I recommend the ones by stephen grider. Youtube tutorials are garbage. You'll also need to practice leetcode.

>> No.52640471

>>52639559
>>52639664
>>52640154
Thanks anons, it means a lot. From my research it seems becoming comfortable with leetcode will be key to my success since other candidates tend to focus on portfolios over it.

>> No.52640709

btw once you know how to program you can always work for yourself and your own company without having any qualifications. if you have a good enough idea and the skills to put it together you can sell your product directly. this is an especially good route for older anons like yourself with no prior work history in the field.

t. same age group, no degree, do my own projects 100% self-taught. will eventually sell my programs online.

>> No.52640755

>>52639582
>>52639632
Who let the emo kids in?

>> No.52640813

>>52640709
I've definitely thought of that as a possibility. Once I have the skills to work on my own I could work on side projects that could bring in side income.
>t. same age group, no degree, do my own projects 100% self-taught. will eventually sell my programs online.
Based AF anon, I wish you tons of success in your future.

>> No.52640824

Anon, I sincerely recommend you start with vanilla JS. Once you master that, React will be a breeze

>> No.52640871

>>52639356
The coding job market is fucked with all the recent layoffs. You are literally buying the top

>> No.52640888

>>52640824
Thanks for the tip, man

>> No.52641041

>>52639356
Alternatively, don't "learn to code" generally. Learn specific relevant skills. For example, let's say you like cloud: pick up AWS/GCP Associate, then Terraform. Like DevOps? Learn Github Actions, Jenkins, Prometheus, Grafana and all that good stuff. Think containers are cool? Get CKAD -> CKA. Like front end? Learn React, node, express, vanilla js and build a damn portfolio.

Either way, build yourself a complete skillset rather than just broadly deciding to code.

t. software engineer, lots of devops experience

>> No.52641050

>>52640813
>Once I have the skills to work on my own I could work on side projects that could bring in side income.
exactly.
>I wish you tons of success in your future.
thank you, and all the best for you as well. fuck the haters.

>> No.52641056

>>52639356
Almost forgot, you can build yourself a little sinecure by doing all of the Red Hat certifications, good pay, very little work, but there are like 10 of them lol

>> No.52641226

>>52641041
Good stuff man. Yeah, the plan is to learn JS > React > Next.js, etc since I do like front-end work. The goal here will be to specialize in this, instead of trying to be the jack of all trades just to end up burnt out. I will also put in more hours into studying/practicing, but the bare minimum is 2 hours a day since family life is unironically dragging me down but I'm persevering regardless of it. Thanks.
>>52641050
Thanks m8

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>>52641041
is there a list somewhere of all the specific skills?

>> No.52641390

>>52641226
Hell yeah. And remember: front end is by far the best for freelancing, but by far the lowest pay for corporate (because everyone wants to do it). Also, front end value goes way up if you know back end as well. I strongly recommend sanity.io if you've never heard of it.

If you want to get big frontend bucks, learn all of the above then branch into solidity and make frontend for web 3.0 dapps. Great career, great pay, great goal.

What worked for me is to set weekly goals rather than time per day: i.e., I need to finish X by Sunday night; it gives you flexibility. Something to think about. Never give up + good luck out there

>>52641230
Just speaking from experience, fren, sorry I don't have anything official or w/e

>> No.52641578

>>52641390
>What worked for me is to set weekly goals rather than time per day: i.e., I need to finish X by Sunday night; it gives you flexibility. Something to think about. Never give up + good luck out there
That's a really good tip man. That really helps. And thanks again man!

>> No.52641636

>>52639632
LMAO, lol

>> No.52641638

>>52639356
echoing other anons on leetcode, but youre going to want to spend more than 2 hours a day if you want a job in 1 year. uni cs grads spend at least that for 4 years, unless you have a background in engineering, youll have a tough time if you dont put more hours in. also look into studying cs fundamentals like data structures and algorithms, that will be useful no matter what field you go into
t. fagman swe

>> No.52642658

better question is how to monetize those skills without getting a job. I've been code monkeying for 6 years and I cannot figure out how to start freelancing. I've taken the last year off waging to work on my own app and I'm at the point where I need more money to keep working on it and I don't want to sell more crypto so I need income. I don't want to wagecuck again but freelancing seems so saturated with pajeets idk what else to do. I need some kind of consulting/prototype development gigs to leverage my fullstack skills but idk where to look

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52642690

>>52639430
Riff raff said he spent about 2-3 hours trying to become a rapper for over 10 years. Then he decided to get serious one day. He decided to "go pro" as he likes to say. So he quit everything else and decided to dedicate himself 100% and he was a millionaire within a year. Jump in and dedicate yourself 100% if you want to make it in any competitive field.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1vAqaUwLg7g

>> No.52642699

>>52639572
A CS degree? Or any degree?

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52642726

>>52639356
Just take a couple classes at a community college and that'll keep you on task having homework and stuff

>> No.52642736

>>52639582
Bingo.

>> No.52642789

>>52640824
https://github.com/getify/You-Dont-Know-JS
here’s a good js resource

>> No.52642804

>>52639356
Just think of a problem that isn't solved yet with code, and get obsessed with solving it with code.
Then it doesn't become practice, it doesn't become something "life can hit me with shit" about, it literally becomes an enjoyable, rewarding hobby.

>> No.52644309

>>52639356
no one codes for more than 2 hours a day
good coders spend more time thinking things out and planning on how to make things efficient
unless you're trying to hack something up in a couple of days or something

>> No.52644519

>>52639582
/best of biz/ right here

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>>52639582

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Here's a story about guy I know trough my coworker
>be in 30's, tech illiterate with dead end job
>start doing front end tutorials online
>after 3 months, quit a job and pay for 5/8 front end classes irl
>land a juniour coder role at the bank after finishing classes
>get paid while learning basic shit with react
>few years in get promoted at the job
>no more juniour
>no more dead end job
Don't listen to demoralizing niggers >>52639582. Everything is possible, it only depends HOW MUCH do you want it.

>> No.52644910

>>52639356
I don't know where you live, maybe in the US its easier, but if you're in the UK I'm gonna say no. Its nowhere near enough, unless you have a degree in STEM already in which case... maybe.