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Are wine vinyards a good investment?

Rich people get richer during depressions so they won't stop buying wine.

>> No.52434201

They lose money.

Owning one is a hobby/status symbol for bored rich people.

>> No.52434206

>>52434145
Most wine revenue comes from poor people though. Try to get into something more niche like caviar and monocles.

>> No.52434278

>>52434145
Name? This is what the perfect female body looks like.

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>>52434145
IIII'm dreaminnnn' of a Whiiite mistress

>> No.52434348

>>52434145
it's more cost effective to distill cheap vodka, which will be in huge demand in the coming post-collapse dystopia

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I'd bury my face in that ass

>> No.52434541

>>52434145
Depends. If you have ways to sell directly via own restaurants near a economical strong city it's a cash cow but if you're in a very rural region and producing conventional wine you are competing in an oversaturated market. Few cents per bottle gains etc. Also glass is very energy intensive and more likely to increase in price which will also put pressure on your gains. Also the work in a vineyard is hard and if you don't find good employees who know their business your vineyard will get infections and loose value in many other different ways. You can't learn this from YT tutorials; you have to learn this by working full time in a profitable company for at least three years.

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>>52434145
No, but sea view properties are.

>> No.52434730

>>52434145
No, it takes years of work + employees who know their shit to produce good wine.

Basically all vineyards have to also be a catering/wedding venue to break even.

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>>52434604
i spy not one, but two exceptionally smelly things in this photograph

>> No.52434783

>>52434201
first post accurate post

>> No.52435125

>>52434145
if you can afford it they are decent. And the lifestyle is top notch.

I have vineyards in Missouri and Southern IL. Both are small operations but to this day the root stock of all french wine is descended from Missouri WT vines.

Its hard for us to do dry wines unfortunately, our soil is much to fertile. Great wines come from vines that are a bit sadomasochistic. (Deprived of water and nutrients come fruiting season)

>> No.52435182

>>52435125
Hence California, Chile, Australia. France is a bit of an odd duck as some of those vineyards have been around centuries completely depleting the soil. Italy is a hybrid.

>> No.52435217

>>52434783
>>52434201
Also this. If it was making and selling wine alone it would bleed money. With tourism, event hosting, and my weed barn I make a decent profit though.

>> No.52435237

>>52435217
and selling my original BTC bag provided the capital

>> No.52435335

>>52435217
That's funny Anon. But sounds like a lot of work desu

>> No.52435389

>>52435125
>I have vineyards in Missouri and Southern IL
Where at in Missouri? I've been to a few from Cape to St. Louis area

>> No.52435454

>>52434145
You'd need so many connections to be able to enter the wine game in this modern age you'd probably already be rich by that point.

Furthermore, wine produced by vineyards, nowadays, are all catered towards middle to upper class people. It's not like roman times where EVERYONE drank wine that came from vineyards, and cheap modern wine is just make in factories.

>> No.52435630

>>52435454
> and cheap modern wine is just make in factories
this.
I was blown away when I bought Californian wine in Europe for 2.69 Euro
It wasn't even bad. I tried it. Not bad at all. And they had to produce it, ship it, costs costs costs. I can only imagine in what quantities this is being made.

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>>52434604

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>>52434604
Olinda Castielle for the coomers.

>> No.52436018 [DELETED] 

>>52435999
Checked.
I stole it from /b/

>> No.52436162

>>52435237
keeps me sober ironically enough
>>52435389
Im closer to St. James in Mo and Carbondale in IL

>> No.52436170

>>52434145
The point of a investing in a vineyard is to buy agricultural land in regions with a Mediterranean climate to turn into box houses. Unless you're connected to the city/county government, you can't really do anything with it.

>> No.52436356

>>52436162
>Im closer to St. James
Cool, I've been in that area before.

>> No.52436373

>>52436162
Please do tell
Are you on the Wine trail?

>> No.52436401

I am 28 years old and I never even kissed a girl

>> No.52436623

>>52436401
Why not, if I may ask?

>> No.52436684

>>52436623
Probably because I'm incapable of flirting/showing sexual interest without feeling as if I'm being extremely rude at the same time. As if I have to hide the fact that I'm a sexual being for some reason

>> No.52436699 [DELETED] 

>>52435999
disgusting tits, i actually threw up a lil

https://twitter.com/olindacastielle/status/1592170309251403776?t=4P2xv_D4QZnABSG9DhmJVg&s=19

>> No.52436742

>>52436684
Maybe it helps you to realize and know that girls make themselves pretty because they want you to kiss them.
It helped me as a teenager when my mom told me that.

>> No.52436800

>>52434145
No, they're just hobby farms for wealthy doctors and the like when they go through a mid-life crises and think it would be a cool idea to be able to serve their own (bad) wine at social shindigs and to punish people with bottles as Christmas and birthday gifts.

>> No.52436902

>>52436800
Yes. Thankfully I don't have friends, so this can't happen to me.

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>>52436699
>https://twitter.com/olindacastielle/status/1592170309251403776?t=4P2xv_D4QZnABSG9DhmJVg&s=19

Holy plastic.

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>>52436742
They don't want ME to

>> No.52437103

>>52436742
based boomermom

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>>52436742
>this. It works for me every time. I just walk up and kiss them lol

>> No.52437137

>>52434145
>>52434201
Vineyards are one of the best ways to launder money, or to save on taxes. It's why all rich limo liberals have one.
>Farming tax credits
>All equipment/expenses are tax deductible
>Multiple income streams: wine, other farm products, wine room/restaurant, weddings, land appreciation, etc.
Even if you have $10,000,000, buying a small vineyard (or starting one) is a hell of a good idea.

>> No.52437162

>>52437131
If a Bogdanoff could've looked like that, he would've. Jesus Mary. What is wrong with this world?

>> No.52437186

>>52434145
How is she allowed to just wear that? Why isn't anyone running in and tackling her so she can be forced into a Burqa?

>> No.52437193

>>52437137
>Vineyards are one of the best ways to launder money

Explain this part specifically

>> No.52437209

>>52435125
>southern IL winery
Open a tasting room in the Chicago - retail space is comparatively cheap in relation to a lot of other major cities and you can still charge just as much. Only drawback is staff is pretty tough to hire here.

>> No.52437225

>>52437209
>in the chicago
*in chicago

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>>52437131
It's about 50/50 for me.

>> No.52437254

>>52434145
Agricultural land has been on my mind as well but dismissed wine. Calculated a 15-year return on investment for an olive orchard, but I think there must be something better.

>> No.52437258

>>52436373
The one in illinois is/will be but not open to the public yet.
>>52436373
I wouldve had I not mentioned my weed barn. Sorry bro

>> No.52437291

>>52437193
Sure thing Glowie

>> No.52437615

>>52437240
Who could resist

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>>52437258
What are you gonna call it

>> No.52438497

>>52438281
Its kind of by holy boulders and has a great view of the mt bald cross so thinking something biblical

open to ideas

>> No.52438569

>>52434201
this. The lead singer from the band Tool has vineyards. He was on the Toad Rogan podcast recently and pretty much said it was a huge waste of money

>> No.52438998

>>52438569
Lot easier to break even in the midwest when land was cheap. Took me 8 years though.
I have a bunch of orchards and crap too so I'd almost call it agro tourism and weed barn than a vineyard.

I still run some miners on hydropower from my spring. its dope.

>> No.52440188

>>52438497
It's yours to name.

I'll come visit this time next year.