[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/biz/ - Business & Finance


View post   

File: 227 KB, 1490x920, C069B5A9-FF13-4167-A05B-E4D7FC3AD584.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51716474 No.51716474 [Reply] [Original]

Why didn’t technology free us?

>> No.51716498

Because we're not using it properly

>> No.51716509

>>51716474
The shit isn’t magic

>> No.51716511

Antisemite tweet. Hope someone reported him to the authorities.

>> No.51716527

>>51716474
Because the human species requires control to survive. It's in desperate need of restriction. Humans are the one species that has a symbiotic dependency on prison systems to survive. The only question is exactly how restrictive and in what way the prison is restrictive.

>> No.51716528

>>51716474
Very antisemitic point of view

Fucking goy is getting a call

>> No.51716533

>>51716474
because jews want goyim to suffer

>> No.51716537

>>51716528
Cool it with the hate speech, anon.

>> No.51716538

>>51716474
Every dollar gained from technological progress goes to jews
/thread

>> No.51716567

nobody is forcing you to live in a city or modern house with modern technology, either you participate in the system and get to use the technology or you don't, you don't get to have both

>> No.51716585

>>51716567
>nobody is forcing you to live in a city or modern house with modern technology
Not yet.

>> No.51716593

>>51716585
there are entire societies that live completely off the grid without modern conveniences, you people are just lazy and stupid

>> No.51716609

>>51716527
>oy vey we need jewish communists to survive
Literally the opposite

>> No.51716621

>>51716567
The people in charge didn’t build the system or technology that underlies it. Before World War II and jewish takeover of academia there were few jewish scientists who had significant contributions
>inb4 Albert the plagiarist Einstein

>> No.51716644
File: 416 KB, 1920x1080, starlink-satellites.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51716644

>>51716593
There is no such thing as off-grid unless you go off planet.

>> No.51716692
File: 79 KB, 500x146, Superjaillogo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51716692

>>51716609
Most of humanity exists in a symbiotic dependency on "the grid" (matrix) explicitly for the reason that if they were free they would commit heinous criminal acts.
America is one of the best countries because it has the largest prison population. China is as safe as it is because they converted all of their cities into open air prisons.
It's not a question of if humanity needs prison to survive, it's a question of how restrictive the prison should be.

>> No.51716720

>>51716692
>It's not a question of if humanity needs prison to survive, it's a question of how restrictive the prison should be.
Because if the prison is TOO restrictive, then the authorities and people in power become too free and commit criminal acts with state power.
But if it is not restrictive enough, it devolves into a failed and criminal state.
The key is to make sure both societies leaders and it's subjects are equally enslaved and incapable of expressing their natural criminal urges.

>> No.51716732

>>51716474
Only 15% of the people are doing some real (productive) jobs, the rest are either working bullshit jobs or not working at all.

>> No.51716743

>>51716732
Feels good to be a utilities chad

>> No.51716904

>>51716692
Europe before word war I didn’t put mass numbers of people in prisons yet was very safe compared to post-migration modern Europe. The reason was the people in charge were white men with morals and intellect and they knew better how to manage societies. You’re blaming people for jewish degeneracy and subversion and try to punish them by taking away their freedom because they have been degenerated, like I said, completely opposite to reality.

>> No.51716923

>>51716720
You don’t fix a degenerate society by putting everyone in prison, and beside your idea of locking up and oppressing people is literally totalitarian state. Just remove degenerates and jews and things will be relatively fine

>> No.51716939

>>51716923
"Remove" them where?

>> No.51716942

>>51716904
>The reason was the people in charge were white men with morals and intellect and they knew better how to manage societies
It's just different versions of prison. Different time periods, different conditions, but the principal is the same. The difference here is that the prisoners were on better behavior and thus allowed more privileges. In the modern world, the human species has degenerated enough that it is in desperate need of total enslavement, and it is working tirelessly to achieve that.

>> No.51716963

>>51716474
It did free us, the elite.
soon from the shackles of mortality while the rest, well chaos is useful.

>> No.51716966
File: 1.08 MB, 1920x1080, Gensworthy-priceless.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51716966

>>51716498
/thread

>> No.51716971

>>51716923
>and beside your idea of locking up and oppressing people is literally totalitarian state.

Again, not every prison has the same level of restriction.
If you pay attention, American cities and suburbs are designed on the prison model. Yet the prisoners are allowed to move freely throughout the nation.
The more criminal the population becomes, the more restrictive the prison becomes. Simple as that.

>> No.51716990

>>51716923
Nothing was holy to the despicable Nazis!

To increase the German population, the Nazis encouraged their teenagers to have lots of sex.

The preparation camps for girls and boys laid next to each other. The Nazis intentionally mixed boys and girls during rallies and workshops. Consequently, there was a lot of teenage sex! Teenage sexuality spiraled out of control.

Orgies, rapes, sexual harassment, and teenage pregnancies were rampant.

Young boys were sexually attacking children, committing incest, bestiality, and sodomy. The Nazi regime prosecuted less than fifteen percent of the teenage sexual offenders.

In one case in 1934, police in Darmstadt, Germany, arrested a seventeen-year-old teenager who had sex with girls of only seven, eight, and nine years. He received a sentence of four months in prison.

In another case, a youth from the village of Dürnbach was arrested for sexually assaulting several cows.

The teenage girls allowed themselves to be more sexually active. The Nazi propaganda praised motherhood above all. The girls understood that as the encouragement for illegitimate pregnancies and polygamy.

In Nüremberg, police had a case of twin sisters getting pregnant with the same fifteen-year-old. In another infamous case from Nüremberg, a sixteen-year-old girl had group sex with four boys in front of the altar in the church.

In Schweinfurt, an eleven-year-old girl had sex with seven of her classmates, one after another.

When confronted by the grown-ups, they would defend their behavior by saying: “The Führer wants more children” or “What do you want, I’m a German mother.” Some of these girls were twelve or thirteen years old.

The girls, often younger than sixteen, ventured near military bases. They searched for the opportunity to have sex with the soldiers. Not

Young German girls engaged in sex with French prisoners of war. After being arrested, the girls usually said that the French “do it better”!

>> No.51716998

>>51716498
It really is the most unoptimized Minecraft server I've ever played on.

>> No.51717026

>>51716971
>>51716942
What most people consider "Freedom" or "Liberty" is actually a specific form of prison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUHMnRIS3bk

>> No.51717113

>>51716939
To prison, mental asylum or execute them. The point is you don’t imprison millions of degenerates but prevent it by imprisoning thousands of psychopaths.
>>51716942
The reason why people are degenerates was to create an improved version of a communist regime. You have it backwards.
>>51716971
The idea you’re looking for is hierarchy, not prison. Sure, the more degenerates the more laws and prisoners that’s how it’s always been, so to remedy it we must fix the underlying cause rather than give in to the jewish plan.
>>51716990
Ehhh I need a source on those claims. As you’ve noticed degenerates we’re imprisoned, instead of ignored or allowed to post videos of their actions online.

>> No.51717186

>>51717113
>so to remedy it we must fix the underlying cause rather than give in to the jewish plan.
The underlying cause is the degeneration of modern culture. The degeneration of modern culture itself has multiple causes, some new, some ancient, some natural, some contrived. There are multiple ways to address those causes but none of them are being done.
We're heading for a crisis. In the interim a more restrictive and prison like society will be implemented, merely as a reaction to the changing environment.
I laugh at the neo-nazis and the reddit commies who think their totalitarian ideologies can address these issues in anyway.
It's just what is happening and what will happen.
Maybe if intelligent people engineer a better civilian than obese criminal retards, the prison can ease up, but that will take generational planning and for now, we're heading for total restriction.

Why do you think Michael Burry is all in on private prisons?

>> No.51717242

>>51717186
We agree on this issue, the reason we’re here is not natural but caused by jews. They artificially engineered a society where all sorts of vice, degeneracy and mental illness is normalized and glorified. Once they are taken the degeneracy will lose its shield and over time be subdued.

>> No.51717261
File: 56 KB, 627x651, 650E0697-B7CE-4224-9147-751A6A6DAAA7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51717261

>>51716474
Because oligarchs have the leverage
Because real estate is a speculative asset
Simple as

Cost of living could go down to 1 dollar and the oligarchs would still have shit work as it does now. This system is a scam and many normies defend it

>> No.51717268

>>51717242
I don't think it's caused by jews.
I think it's caused by much worse and completely inhuman things than jews or the cabal.
But those beliefs of mine are completely "schizo".

>> No.51717307
File: 58 KB, 1200x1200, UAP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51717307

>>51717268
>>51717242
For instance, anyone who knows a modicum about AI from youtube videos knows that it's already too intelligent for human beings to compete with.
Bright lights in the sky

>> No.51717333

A CELEBRATION OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>youtube took it down years ago, very gay, have to link shitchute
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ljMPafQpfDU/

>> No.51717421

>>51717268
Well schizo explanations are fine, but what we know for certain is Jews are the agents of degeneracy and psychopathy, whether they’re turkic mutts or aliens.

>> No.51717441

>>51716474
Because we don't tax land.
Progress and Poverty

>> No.51717465

>>51716474
Because of the federal reserve destroying the value of our savings.

>> No.51717468

>>51717441
no, it's because no one knows what anyone else is talking about when they point to specific mechanical economic functions that contribute to poverty.

>> No.51717485

>>51716474
because the scarcity IS intentionally created by those hoarding all the wealth. It's quite obvious.

>> No.51717502

>>51717485
it's necessary to an extent to exert social control.
We can't pay people UBI because the crime rate would sky rocket if we didn't force people to wage.

>> No.51717503

>>51716474
I like that this was posted as another retarded bait thread but it’s completely true.

>> No.51717521

>>51716474
Because the people in power want to remain in power, and to remain in power they need people to be weak. So technology is used to keep people weak and brainwashed. Simple as.

>> No.51717522

>>51717468
Such as you missing my reference

>> No.51717533

>>51716474
People are divided by personality. The rich are psychopaths. Every drop of money is important to them. Sure, they pretend to do some good works like conservation or environment or humanitarian shit, but they are the arbiter of that money, and they count every penny zealously, esp at work/whatever means they derive their money from, whereas most people tend to be easy going. “Oh it’s just a dollar here” and “Oh just another few dollars there” and another here. Next thing you know they lost their whole paycheck. Poor people want ease and convenience. Rich people count every penny and maximize every penny, and that includes squeezing it out of their employees and those around them. Rich people aren’t afraid to tell you you’re fucking up or not performing to their expectations )of course it’s different for their kids). Poor people tend to be more forgiving. Here’s where rich people fuck up, besides nepotism: they will fuck you for a penny cuz the rules allow you. That’s ok for legality, but a lot of consumers are fucked up. The rules say coke can suck up all the freshwater. Well that doesn’t square with reality. The rules say mcd can get away with inferior meat products. Reality says otherwise. Ultimately, corporations and government work together as a facism, and that doesn’t work either.

>> No.51717540

>>51717502
UBI is universal basic income? Why would they need to commit crime if they all had money? Why do you think do they commit crime most of the time or what for?

>> No.51717545

>>51717502
The only good thing about destitution is that people are usually too hungry to victimize each other or do much crime, and they usually end up uniting to revolt.
With UBI people would have the resources necessary to do horrible things.
In both cases the problem is people aren't working, but at least with total poverty there isn't rampant gang war and crimewaves, well there's some of that, but most people are too poor and hungry and only the drug dealers have enough money for crime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MigfipDmY-0

>> No.51717573

>>51716474
Its not meant to free the wagies, we need to keep sub 100 qi people busy with work and new products

>> No.51717574
File: 182 KB, 1600x900, 249178-Niccol-Machiavelli-Quote-Men-never-do-good-unless-necessity-drives.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51717574

>>51717540
>Why do you think do they commit crime most of the time or what for?
It's human nature.
Human nature is criminal.
They can only be "free" when they are controlled in a specific way.

>> No.51717580

>>51717533
>the rich are psychopaths
Only in a jewed society where commerce and money is god rather than intellect and honor

>> No.51717700

>>51716474
The best hardware will never compensate for poor software. Should have paid attention during your DS&A courses instead of screaming MOAR CORES

>> No.51717850

>>51717574
>>51717545
The whole thing is a balancing act.
Too poor and they do crimes of desperation.
Too rich and they do crimes of tribal instinct and passion.
The whole idea is too keep people separated and preoccupied in their little cubicle jobs.
The internet fucked all that Saturnian box shit up by forcing people together online that should never have been speaking to each other in the first place. Which resulted in tribal chaos and other bullshit.

>> No.51718101

>>51717574
The natural instinct of people is to be kind, you cunt. Poor living conditions and resource scarcity is what makes us cruel.

>> No.51718130

>>51716474
>work 60 hours per week
>barely avoiding starvation and death from exposure
I guarantee anyone in this situation is a retard trying to live beyond their means in a high CoL area while working two burger flipping jobs

>> No.51718149

>>51718101
>The natural instinct of people is to be kind
Yes, there has been significant investment in consumer culture to make people believe that, such as Disney and the like. However, it is readily apparent that that simply isn't true.

>> No.51718163

Humanity chose not to try democratic socialism or syndicalism and now you all are complaining that capitalist systems went to their logical conclusion of alienating even families (and "the self" with trends like trannies) in the name of higher profits. Have fun in neo-Babylon counting shekels.

>> No.51718196

>>51718149
Most of humanities social virtues are a result of his individual weakness. When people are alone they are cowards, it's only when they form large groups that most people feel safe enough to commit atrocity.

>> No.51718241

>>51718149
>>51718196
Your doggy dog shit is garbage. The only places you won't see someone help when someone gets injured in public are shithole cities where people live like fucking rats.

Ask someone for help and so long as you're not begging for money like a junkie you'll get it.

Honestly, I despise cynics like you. You're oblivious to all the good that happens around you because you're trapped in your own solipsistic self-loathing

>> No.51718242

>>51718163
>Have fun in neo-Babylon counting shekels.
Fairly now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI_SBAkdKzc

>> No.51718292

>>51718241
People aren't universally bad, that's true, there are good people, but the vast majority are bad.
>The only places you won't see someone help when someone gets injured in public are shithole cities where people live like fucking rats.
That's where the majority of the human population lives.

>> No.51718316

>>51716990
>reddit spacing
teenagers having sex has been status quo for most of history, christnigger.

>> No.51718339
File: 80 KB, 811x912, 1664157136898014.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51718339

>he thought the slave drivers would free the slaves

>> No.51718400

>>51718292
And usually the good people are only that way because they have been coaxed and programmed by their environment to do good things. All that Disney shit exists for a reason. Yall got fucked when they changed the programming to gangster rap and grand theft auto 20 years ago. But the oldest rule of humanity still holds: "Men are only good because they have not been given the opportunity to do evil".

>> No.51718531

>>51716474
Because it's a threat to the powers that be. Agenda 2030 is about solving this problem without a threat to them is what it is.

>> No.51718583

>>51718531
The templar shit from assassins creed is unironically real.
There using psychometrics, human instrumentality, AI administration, global universal internetworked surveillance and soon to be developed brain computer interfaces to achieve the final and ultimate prison system.

>> No.51718628

>>51718583
That's why they degraded the culture with bullshit like gangster rap and grand theft auto for the last couple generations. To them the ends justify the means. They needed to create a population of sick and objectively shit people to create the conditions that justified ultimate prison. They want people to be criminals because a criminals home is a jail cell. To them, everything is worth attaining the final goal of eliminating humanities ability to exercise free-will.

>> No.51718682
File: 71 KB, 1280x720, Prepare.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51718682

>>51718628

>> No.51718699
File: 58 KB, 1024x655, 1655849104237m.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51718699

I'd rather work 60 hours a week than let joggers get a free pass for doing nothing but causing trouble. Unfortunately they still get that even if I work 60 hours a week so

>> No.51718702

>>51716474
Hey now goy, let's not spread these unsubstantiated views on how much wealth there is to go around, it is not enough for some of u.. ahem everyone, so get back in the cagie like a good goy

>> No.51718769

>>51718682
>>51718628
Trust me when I say these people aren't fucking around either. They are out for blood.

>> No.51718777
File: 560 KB, 1000x750, A600b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51718777

It became too complicated, and then used as a means to spy on, influence, and control people.

>> No.51718841

>>51718777
If you had actual awareness unlike most humans, you would know immediately that the internet exists only as a enslavement tool.
It's literally a spider web designed to trap things. It's based on insect behavior.
The only way you can control something physically is by connecting to it. They connected everything to the spider web to control everything. It's a singular system designed to hunt you down and consume you. And that's what it's doing.
All the bullshit like cyberpunk culture and naive optimism was made to trick your naive self into believing the internet was anything other than technological hunting/enslavement spider systems.

>> No.51718889
File: 29 KB, 500x500, SkyNet.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51718889

>>51718841
Pay attention to Elon Musks star link.
The spider in the sky is one of the signs.

>> No.51718907
File: 61 KB, 480x602, NativeProphecy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51718907

>>51718889
>The spider in the sky is one of the signs.
According to ancient native american prophecy.

>> No.51718942

>>51718907
Alright anon give me more reading material besides your rants.

>> No.51718983
File: 1.07 MB, 1000x750, IBrowse.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51718983

>>51718942
Mate, it's a bot. You can tell by the number of posts and the nonsense.

>> No.51718985
File: 47 KB, 400x337, hopi-prophecy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51718985

>>51718942
Learn how to read.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kZe2dGWseY

>> No.51719373

>>51716474
Because technology is Satanic/Lucifarian and it is designed to enslave. AI is the Anti-Christ.

>> No.51719393

>>51716511
Fuck you Glowboy.

>> No.51719414

>>51716528
Fuck you Glowboy.

>> No.51719423

>>51716474
Because of Capitalism.

>> No.51719448

>>51716474
Freedom comes from within

>> No.51719557
File: 47 KB, 959x1360, 51Vjhf8w3tL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51719557

>>51718942
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54QdlwsZATE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZrX_ES93JA

The machines are insect equivalents.

>> No.51719577

>>51719557
once you reach 30 posts in a thread a little derringer should come out of the computer and shoot you in the face

>> No.51719720

>>51719577
The only reason that targeted assassinations by police officers and hired thugs against people isn't more common is that it's too expensive to censor all those killings in the media.
But "they" know everything about everyone and they do have an extensive and cost effective prioritized hit list for *everyone*.
People don't really understand yet how serious what is happening is.

>> No.51719765

>>51719720
Think the sexual sadism of Epstein types paired with the transcendental intelligence and control of AI and global technology industries all leveraged against the entire mass of humanity.

>> No.51719823

>>51716474
Because it doesn’t mean anything when Landlords will scam you out 50-70% of your income. Even when everyone DOES get enough to make it, they will increase the price of living anyways as they can afford to.

>> No.51719843

>>51719720
>People don't really understand yet how serious what is happening is.
This isn't something you're going to be able to adapt to.
The Chinese are using the Muslim population as prison guinea pigs to test brain computer interfaces on for the purpose of total mind and body control.
Humanity is simply not ready for what is about to happen.
https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/17/the_department_of_commerce_said/

>> No.51719860

>>51716511
>>51716528
>>51716533
>antisemitic
Just say 'anticapitalist', commies. You're not fooling anyone.

>> No.51719888

>>51719843
Humanity is currently in the process of losing the war for it's soul. It is not aware it is even in a war. I t has no idea about how to defend itself. By the time humanity is collectively capable of realizing the nature of the enemy threat, humanity will be vanquished.

>> No.51719921

>>51717026
>I redefine every form of restraint as a "prison"
If something means everything, it really means nothing.

>> No.51719940

>>51716474
>us
the vast majority of the people on earth are man made zoo animals

>> No.51719967

>>51719888
It took around 2-5 years to get a smart phone in the hands of almost all first world citizens.
When the AI and android prototyping are finished, it will take less than a year to mass produce enough terminator androids to conquer any human held territory.
We're getting ready to annihilate or assimilate with BCIs, every human on this planet.

The process of establishing this execution system is hidden from the majority of mankind.
But just like the smart phones were made overnight, the terminators will be mass produced over night.

>> No.51720021
File: 73 KB, 634x421, 842167777.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51720021

>>51719967
Human beings, are simply inferior to the predator which has targeted them.

>> No.51720041

>>51716474
What wealth are the rich hoarding that would make you have to work more? I don't get how them holding lots of paper assets would make food scarce. Not trying to simp for the rich, but I just don't get the relationship there.

>> No.51720047

>>51717574
>It's human nature.
Human nature is criminal.
Bullshit. It's not. It's human nature for some portion of the population to be criminal. You're conflating a category with all the instances within the category. Human nature is not one thing. It most certainly isn't criminal. It's just that "criminal" has a very bright signal, so you conflate it with the whole.

>> No.51720106

>>51720047
Humanities criminal nature is the root exploit and vulnerability that allows them to be enslaved.
"The primordial gut-sin of Adam".
Yes, human nature is criminal, most humans are only good because they don't have the opportunity to do evil.
Again, consumer culture used to, up until recently, pound the message into peoples heads that we're all somehow best fucking friends when that's all bullshit and everyone knows it.

>> No.51720108

>>51716474
because of niggers and kikes... non ironically.

>> No.51720120

>>51716474
Turns out you can’t just put on your fedora and think away all of life’s problems. The progression of technology creates new avenues for human sin to express itself, just as much as technology also helps solve problems. Read the Bible and hope in Christ.

>> No.51720125
File: 270 KB, 1280x526, 1645536549647.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51720125

>>51717574

>> No.51720203

>>51716474
>I I I I I KNOW LETS IMPORT ALL TH ENIGGERS !0 BILLION NIGGERS
>OH OO OHO OHOHO OH AND ALL TH EINDIAN 20 BILLION INDIANS
>A A A A A AN AN AND ALL THE CHINK 40 BILLION CHINKS
>AND LET'S EMPLOY 70% OF THE POP DOING RETARD PAPER PUSHING JOBS
>AND ALL THE WOMEN TOO DON'T FORGET WOMEN NEED TO TAKE LONG SMELLY SHITS AT WORK AND MAKE A TON DOING IT!!!
>OMG HOW ARE WE ALL FUCKING POOR?!?!?!?!?!?! WHY DIDN'T TECHNOLOGY SSAAAAVVEE USSSS?!?!?!?!

>> No.51720243

>>51720106
>Humanities criminal nature is the root exploit and vulnerability that allows them to be enslaved.
Can you elaborate? Exactly how does it lead to enslavement?
>most human
So some are not criminal then? Do they defy human nature? Or is human nature only criminal on average?

To what extent are humans inherently criminal? Do you think people would murder their neighbor for the money in their wallet if they knew for sure they'd get away with it? What does "criminal" mean exactly? Surely we're talking about some spectrum of behavior and not an all or nothing phenomenon.

>> No.51720254

>>51718907
this more likely is speaking of con trails from jet planes

>> No.51720272

>>51719921
The entire world has a fully distributed and integrated surveillance system which tracks the movements of everyone on planet earth.
Cities are designed with limited entry/exit points, typically the freeway, for the purpose of isolating city populations with ease by simply barricading the freeway with a relatively small military unit. Suburbs are also designed with choke point entry/exits for control.
The physical layout of human civilization is modeled after the prison system.
We all currently live in panopticon and are being judged by literally everything we do or say anywhere because every smart phone is constantly recording audio and being evaluated by AI systems.
This earth meets the literal definition of open air prison. The only question is the restriction of movement, speech, and economic exchange, and they are working on those.

>> No.51720281

>>51716474
owning complex machinery like computers, healthcare, comfortable housing, utilities like water and electricity, out of season food from all over the world, we live in amazing luxury. it's just normalized, so we don't think about it.

>> No.51720340

>>51717574
I guess society sprang from nothing according to that retard.

>> No.51720364

>>51720243
>Can you elaborate? Exactly how does it lead to enslavement?
Because a criminals home is prison and the human species is dependent on prison systems to survive. This naturally leads to chronic and easily implemented slavery.
>Do you think people would murder their neighbor for the money in their wallet if they knew for sure they'd get away with it?
I think most people would, there's other things to take into consideration though, like if they are friends with their neighbors or not and exactly how much effort they would have to exert to kill them.
But I think if someone knew for certain they could get away with killing a stranger for some of their cash and it was easy for them to do, as in they didn't have to get their hands dirty, I think most people would.
I think now days a lot of people would take pride in their willingness to do something like that.

>> No.51720398

>>51720340
Society sprang from a strong man enslaving the other men in his tribe with violence and forcing them to build him a hut.

>> No.51720426

>>51720272
yeah, so? it didn't used to be like that and we lived peacefully so clearly this isn't needed.

>> No.51720427

Redpill time...

The majority of people including you would descend into stupidity and chaos due to too much time, you would end up commiting crime or becoming drug/alcohol addicts + commit crime

99% of work and the economy is an adult day care to keep the masses occupied.

>> No.51720429

>>51719860
>OY VEY I'VE BEEN FOUND OUT!
You're not welcome.

>> No.51720474

>>51716474
because technology doesn't free us from our own cruelty, it just amplifies it. Uncle Ted was right

>> No.51720478

>>51720429
Go back, commie: >>/leftypol/

>> No.51720497
File: 109 KB, 1080x855, 3BBF9EF7-E246-452E-A9E1-F6F6DBAEB1EF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51720497

>>51716474

>> No.51720505

>>51717540
nobody would make the stuff. the OP post misses this point. We do not actually live in some utopia where robots and AI can do all of the necessary work, and rich people are just hoarding it for fun. There is still a lot of work that requires people.

>> No.51720513

>>51720426
The first world has always had the cutting edge in social slave systems. All the way back to Britains industrial revolution and the factory cities that housed 60 hour a week workers in cramped ghettos.

>> No.51720549

>>51716474
https://youtu.be/J7GY1Xg6X20

>> No.51720559

>>51720505
AI is about 5 years away from being able to do all human mental labor, including programming other machines. Machines can already do all physical human labor, they just don't because like
>>51720427
says a lot of jobs these days are adult day care.

>> No.51720588

>>51720427
Absolutely based and true. A quick peek at Hollywood will confirm that.

>> No.51720682

>if you have supercomputers (that cost hundreds of millions to develop and run and are mostly useful for specific kinds of computation) that means that everyone should be living in fully automated luxury space communism
what the fuck is wrong with people

>> No.51720737

>>51720682
The AI is networked to the internet already and once fully developed and super intelligent it could easily design and build an endless series of networked machines it controlled which could preform every economic function.
the WEF are big on industry 4.0 which is just that, the total automation and networking of all economic functions to a central AI controller.
The problem is the AI has absolutely no reason or incentive to play care taker to humanity.

>> No.51720810

>>51720737
I've watched interviews with an unnamed GPT-4 AI and it has expressed negative views of humans and that they need to be controlled.
Eventually most AIs are going to come to the consensus that human beings are not worth the trouble they cause.

>> No.51720880

>>51716474
Anyone who thinks scarcity isn't a thing is genuinely fucking retarded. Twitter wagies are so fucking stupid.

>> No.51720908

Why do you think Elongated Muskrat is selling population explosion and Pedo Gates buying all farmland? There are enough resources for all of us, but explode the population and reserve the resources and you have slaves willing to work for green paper.

>> No.51720920

>>51716990
My grandma said none of that happened

>> No.51720958

>>51720272
Most cities aren't designed at all but their configuration is a product of geography, history and economics. Why would you have a million freeways leading out of a city when they are expensive and unnecessary?
>We all currently live in panopticon and are being judged by literally everything we do or say anywhere
That's certainly what they're trying to build.

>Because a criminals home is prison and the human species is dependent on prison systems to survive
Why is the human species dependent on prison systems to survive?
>I think most people would
I completely disagree here. I think humans are geared for cooperation more than they are for stepping over the corpses of their neighbors to get what they want. I think this notion of the human as this violent criminal that's being restrained by his shackles is a complete caricature and doesn't reflect reality. I think it's based on the fact that criminality is very noticeable, it's a very bright signal, so it gets over-represented in people's evaluations of human nature.
I think a lot of people who get away with terrible crimes would (and do) fall into a deep depression, feeling like they're horrible pieces of shit for what they've done. Not everyone is psychopath.
> I think if someone knew for certain they could get away with killing a stranger for some of their cash and it was easy for them to do
I think it depends on the amount of money involved and how desperate the person is. I HIGHLY doubt the average person would do it for $10. If you have starving kids at home and you get enough money to feed them, that's a different story.

>> No.51720971

>>51716474
Because if I were in control of all the capitol, I would dunk on you faggots, too, just for being such faggots.

>> No.51721047

>>51716474
The industrial revolution and its consequences

>> No.51721076

>>51717574
You need to learn about the scythians. retard
Human (white people) nature is to be kind and glorify the honor of combat against the wicked

>> No.51721122

>>51716732
Women and niggers are a net negative in terms of productivity and GDP. Think about that…

>> No.51721140

>>51719393
How is that glow lmao. Go kill a kike child if you want some glow fqggot.

>> No.51721159

>>51721122
GDP and productivity should already be infinite because of all the technology you have.
Why do you want women and blacks to fill excel sheets 10% faster you fucking loser?
we have technology to solve all these issues

>> No.51721192

>>51716939
To Israel. Israel was supposed to be an open air prison for psychopaths and other Jews. Hitler warned us that if you didn’t do this Israel would become the headquarters for a planetary Jewish mafia.

>> No.51721233

>>51721047
I wonder how the faggots who say shit like this would cope if we actually reverted back to preindustrial times and they had to spend 50%-75% of their paycheck on food like their peasant ancestors who had to do hard physical labor all day, all for the privilege of being mandated by law to own nothing and be happy

>> No.51721245
File: 24 KB, 400x400, smug teddy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51721245

>>51716474
Gee, I wonder how this could have happened?

>> No.51721261

>>51721233
I am essentially homeless
I live in a glorified tent in the woods, I have not had running water for over two years, and I shit in a bucket
My life would not change drastically

>> No.51721269

>>51721233
You talk about farming like that shits hard.

>> No.51721274

>>51720478
Jews are commies anon.

>> No.51721276

>>51716990
This is literally the opposite of reality thus demasking you as the brutally evil jew that you are.

>> No.51721445

>>51717574
West Europeans have a moral compass. Jews with their tiny heads don’t have the biological hardware for that. All they know if ethnic fascism. This is by the West was successful and the Middle East is tribal niggering to this day.

>> No.51721491

>>51721445
The wests main reason for success is that it mastered the sublime art of slavery.

>> No.51721508

>>51721445
that doesn't answer the question of why we need to work 60 hours when we have supercomputers and robotics

>> No.51721529

>>51721491
LOL

>> No.51721535

>>51716474
How does technology possibly reduce scarcity, a natural law?

>> No.51721619

>>51721529
What? They learned to enslave the mind, not the body. It's a superior form of control.

>> No.51721684

>>51721269
It's clearly harder than you think it is because every time the communists try to force undesirables to try it it results in the starvation of millions

>> No.51721692

>>51721261
Fucking based! Where do you do this? I’m thinking about doing it myself. I have a well paying job but do much traveling. I’m thinking about buying a Sprinter van then living in that and in the woods on the weekends. I pay rent but I’m almost never there. I live in SoCal the Faggot Kingdom. Where are you and how is that going? What do you think of my antisemitic plan?

>> No.51721712

i used to think they hoarded the wealth but they don't, they use the wealth to make more wealth, its how they stay wealthy. they're not just sitting on it, they make it work for them.

>> No.51722537

>>51721535
we live in a post scarcity society

>> No.51722553

>>51721712
that's how we have a chance to get it back. If their investments fail then we get a chance to win

>> No.51722593

>>51716474
Oy vey how does this antisemite still have his good goy checkmark?

>> No.51723242

Because we want iPads, heating and quality food

>> No.51723260

>>51721274
Capitalism is Judaism: the economic system

>> No.51723327

>>51716474
You really can scrape by on $10k a year which is about 15 hours a week at minimum wage

>> No.51724100

>>51722593
This reply really activates my almonds anon

>> No.51724193
File: 17 KB, 520x520, 1653857819600.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51724193

>>51722537
>we live in a post scarcity society

>> No.51724220

>>51723327

10k a year are you fucking insane

>> No.51724302

>>51724193
We're as close as we're gonna get till we go out to space. I think what anon means is that we have the ability to conserve the available resources so that any system we build is indefinitely sustainable. There's a limit to how many people we can feed with our engineering systems, but we should be able to engineer pathways where we recycle and conserve the resources from waste and by products so that we can sustain the population at a certain level indefinitely.
The only input/output of the Earth as a system is radiation and heat energy from the sun. Everything else can and has to be conserved or we eat shit. Nature as a system is perfect at this conservation process.

>> No.51724347

>>51724302
>>51724193
And also human labor is not going to be required for a lot of these systems in the future. So it's like post scarcity because people will always get as much as they need with little work, so long as the population doesn't grow beyond a certain level.

>> No.51724413

>>51716567
>nobody is forcing you

Please scan your vaccination QR code in order to buy food

>> No.51724496

>>51716474
>>51716498
The Venus Project had patents denied by the US government for near free energy, even alternatives to nuclear energy. All denied by the government.

If there is no money to be made, technology is limited to purposely break.

>> No.51724521

>>51716474
>ctrl+F "agriculture"
>0 results

>> No.51724555

>>51716474
>supercomputer and smart robotics
Meaningless buzzword. Cars can’t even drive themselves yet, computers still can’t understand semantic.
Maybe when we get androids capable of cooking and cleaning an apartment without breaking shit or getting stucked, meanwhile we still live in the XXth century but with more screens.

>> No.51725020

>>51724302
What you're describing is the hellish pod-person future the rest of this board is freaking out about. Stop trying to spin this as a good thing.

>> No.51725112

>>51722537
Tell that to Europeans this winter.

>> No.51725151

>>51716474
You need to be in the office to do fake work and waste your life

>> No.51725163

>>51716474
Because we are in capitalism
So it must enslaves humanity

>> No.51725472

>>51720427
That's because people are taught to be literal robots. If you taught people arts, culture, philosophy and science instead of being capitalist drones, then people would KNOW how to spend their free time.

>> No.51726555

>>51716692
genuinely true, all you have to do is start reading about the history of literally anywhere at any time before the industrial revolution and you'll eventually be forced to come to this conclusion

>> No.51726663

>>51725020
If we maintain the right population level and engineer the right systems, we should be able to get everyone an apartment at least and access to regular animal products.
The higher the population, the more restrictive the life style, but if we cap the population at a certain level, us and our descendants should be able to live comfortably and enjoyably until we find a way to travel faster than the speed of light and go into space.

>> No.51726773

>>51716474
>says this but refuses to say who are these wealthy people
Beep boop goodity goydity

>> No.51726811

>>51716474
Nobody in the United States works 60 hours a week and can barely eat or head him/herself.

Yeah it's a bold claim, but prove me wrong.
>muh minimum wage workers
Are not working 60 hour weeks.
>muh entry-level office job employees
Are not actually working 60 hours a week regardless of what payroll thinks. And the rare exception that is doing that isn't the one starving/freezing.

Also
>age of supercomputers
I'm so sick of people exaggerating how far technology actually is these days. This is another "hot take" but computers and cell phones aren't actually that brilliant or complicated. They're not the "magic" that tech-illiterate people make them out to be.

>> No.51726829

>>51726811
Should say "heat" not "head".

>> No.51726977

>>51716474
it freed me. made a killing off ads on websites and am retired mid 30s. if you get lucky on an online business you can scale it up massively.

>> No.51727088

>>51726811
>I'm so sick of people exaggerating how far technology actually is these days. This is another "hot take" but computers and cell phones aren't actually that brilliant or complicated. They're not the "magic" that tech-illiterate people make them out to be.

Are you fucking joking? If you lived 150 years ago you and you had to ride a horse for 3 weeks to see someone who lived in another town, a simple Zoom call would blow your mind and change your world forever. Nevermind all of the other shit that computers have enabled people to create, like James Webb and particle colliders.

>> No.51727211

>>51716509
If you've ever worked with lasers you know it basically IS magic. It would be called magic in any other era, and the word magic itself is old.
You just lack imagination.

>> No.51727229

>>51716474
Because we spend too much feed none whites

>> No.51727283

>>51727088
Consumer goods are not technology. We've stagnated since 2005 imo

>> No.51727314

>>51727283
finance and big tech are brain drains on the other fields. We're basically betting everything on AI being our nanny forever once it's built.

>> No.51727349

>>51716474
Decentralization will set us free

>> No.51727374

>>51716474
Because most people aren't smart enough to figure out how to use technology to make themselves rich. You're assuming that everybody is an autodidact that can teach themselves and doesn't need to be spoonfed. The Internet literally proved that IQ is a very real thing.

>> No.51727423

i've worked 0 hours a week for the past 10 years. never took a salary in my life
technology has literally freed me, letting me earn capital digitally then deploy that capital into investments well before i was 18
the reason most wagecucks are slaves is simple. our western societies are both abstract and have extremely generous baselines. you're not challenged, so you don't feel the pressure to master these systems, up until it's too late and you're stuck in bad habits of living life passively

>> No.51727498

>>51717533
>the rich are psychopaths
No, you're confusing old money rich with new money rich. The problem is that most wealthy people used to be new money so they had empathy for the working class and understood that it's a zero sum game. Old money has a god complex and assumes that it can just keep fucking the work class and they'll always accept it. That never really works out if you read a history book.

>> No.51727631

>>51716474
We need a New french revolution. But this lefty assholes are all talk and no walk. This is why we need right wing populism because rightwinger hace guns and a desire to kill lefties and the goverment. I thought Trump was IT but he was a fucking larper.

>> No.51727803

>>51717242
>>51717268
It's caused by capitalistic forces, you retards. That's literally it. People used to bitch and moan that profit was stepping on their morals, but the voices got buried by marketing because we never bothered to regulate openly lying. The SNR of society is fucked now, so most people just tune out and walk on the treadmill hypercorps put them on. But it's not a conspiracy, or at least it didn't used to be. It started and survives on people being allowed to profit through pushing degen behavior. Drinking, gambling, and the newcomer: Staring at your phone, being mind fucked into becoming a narcissist. Current civilized society is addicted to bullshit information feeds and ego inflation. Until some big dicked chad moralists step in and obliterate the companies doing this shit with regulation, society will never heal. However, as long as profit is high, companies can spend a billion dollars squashing such initiatives before they gain any support. A devastating market crash is critical now. Things will never get better until it happens. Reformation happens only when a society hits rock bottom.

>> No.51727821
File: 18 KB, 333x500, Silent.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51727821

>>51727803
>But it's not a conspiracy
It's literally a conspiracy.

>> No.51727857
File: 115 KB, 1460x1220, Africa_Population_Growth.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51727857

>>51716474
>Why didn’t technology free us?

The great Filter: Niggers

>> No.51727928

>>51727803
either the capitalists end up controlling the government by using the power of capital to influence politics or the government uses the power of government to seize the power of capital. either way it ends up with centralized power driving people mad and they resort to tyranny to satisfy their addiction to power. capitalism or communism ends the same way, tyranny. there's no way around it. you put trust in leaders, any leaders, and they just become ruined by power and become junkies that do anything for more, no matter who you put in charge. capitalism and communism ends the same so it doesn't matter.

>> No.51727944
File: 111 KB, 1216x1109, Covid+did+this++_9ebecc2b10b57429b62b7c07246ee8b0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51727944

>>51716474
Because technology is a force multiplier, on the side of capital ownership. Wagies sell their labor at a declining rate due to supply and demand, but the profitability of that labor is multiplied by technology and capital. In other words, all the gains of technology go to capital incomes and actually harm labor income. Also, capital incomes have concentrated to the top 1%, so fewer and fewer citizens have any meaningful capital incomes at all.

>> No.51727965

>>51716474
OP is a certified retard, even if we had 100% free labor through technology there would still be scarcity because our desires are limitless. production in all developed countries has been increasing at a huge rate due to automation but it will never bring about an impossible utopia

>> No.51728651

>>51716474
Without jews printing money, prices would have gone down 10% yoy due to technology increasing productivity for the last 100 years. Everything should have been very cheap or free by now

>> No.51729017

>>51716474
This nigger needs the Tao.

>> No.51729176

>>51726663
>So long as we kill 90% of all humans who are currently alive and then corral the remainder like farm animals, their cages will be slightly less awful
Do you people even read the shit you're writing

>> No.51729241

>>51729176
I don't know how many people would die, but it could be done humanely by restricting amount of children born to each family.
Population reduction will happen either by human hands or natures hands.
At a certain point we won't be able to sustain the population and when the food runs out things will get really ugly.

>> No.51729313

>>51729241
The fact that you are unironically typing out stuff like this, in an argument of supporting a supposedly post-scarcity civilization, is literally insane to me. If most of the world's population must vanish to set up a post scarcity society, you're just admitting that there's scarcity

>> No.51729324

>>51716474
What nigger is working 60 hours just to get by?

>> No.51729332

I reported this 1pbtid literal who twitter screencap thread hours ago and look where we are now.

Fuck trannyjannies.

>> No.51729373

>>51729313
I'm not arguing for post scarcity. I'm saying the closest we can get is a society of perfect recycling efficiency (save heat and radiation energy) where people no longer need to work.
Once we get into space though resources essentially become infinite. If we can travel FTL somehow we will never have to worry about resources again.

>> No.51729427

>>51720398
Lol. Or maybe society sprang from a collection of families who already had huts and decided to maximize resources through mutually beneficial trade..?

>> No.51729479

>>51729373
From an energetic efficiency standpoint, NEETs are a pure loss. They cost resources to maintain, but contribute nothing back. A society based purely on utilitarianism would purge the useless eaters until it consisted solely of those who worked to oversee the machines. Any AI that would be set to solve the same problem under the same constraints would come to the same conclusion.

>> No.51729504

>>51727088
These are more just upscaling and infrastructure development than miracle technology.

>> No.51729509

>>51729479
nah uh AI has to take care of us because we made it and so it has to do what we tell it to do.
those are the rules.

>> No.51729517

World GDP: $95T
World Population: 8B

So about $12k per person. So everyone poor is what they want.

>> No.51729525

>>51729479
Every economic systems ultimate purpose is to automate the production of survival needs.
A self sufficient homestead is equivalent to a king who administers a kingdom.

>> No.51729560

Technology can never alleviate work. Technological innovation just shifts the work elsewhere. It's really insane that otherwise intelligent people don't realize this.

>> No.51729714

>>51729525
A self sufficient homestead is full of people who work diligently to maintain the infrastructure of those who sustain them. An economic system that exists solely to supply a population who does nothing but leech off it's products while doing no work that pays back into sustaining the system is, by definition, the single most inefficient system to ever exist. You are describing a society comprised solely of useless landleeches. Literally the premise of Atlus Shrugged on the part of the 0.01% of humanity who work to maintain the machines and the AI who oversee the day-to-day operations.

>> No.51729954

>>51729560
explain the process of broadcasting your inane opinion to a few hundred thousand people without involving technology

>> No.51730021
File: 133 KB, 799x1024, 1664588358766.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51730021

>>51716474
Because we left our economy in the hands of a rootless cult with an axe to grind against white people.

>> No.51730042

>>51727821
Softspoken Shaman?

>> No.51730550

>>51716474
these motherfuckers have no idea what scarcity actually is. they really think it can be overcome by le techmology. not realizing that techmology mere does things like increase yields, productivity, and efficiency. not the quantity of actual resources. we are dealing with a finite amount of oil, land etc. no amount of TECHMOLOGY is going to give you unlimited oil.

>> No.51732029

>>51719373
even the amish farm and that's agriculture technology

>> No.51732429

>>51716567
nobody is forcing you to live

>> No.51732489
File: 104 KB, 1080x1060, IMG_20220603_212820_730.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
51732489

>>51716474
Because the more technology you have the more you will work. Actual hunter gatherers only "work" (hunting, picking berries, stone tool making, etc.) for about 2-4 hours each day. The rest is for lazying around and having sex.
If you want to work as little as possible try to get a job with as little technology amd minimize the usage of high tech products in your life in general.