Russia destroyed their own pipelines

[Anonymous No.51658073]

Makes no sense to me, but perhaps they are trying to make Europes relationship with the US strained in order to reduce sanctions by making it look like the US did this.

Makes no sense though because Putin cant turn in the taps and get what he wants now.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-27/european-gas-prices-rise-amid-outages-at-idled-russian-pipelines

[Anonymous No.51658143]

The US did this dumb dumb .
Europe is a bitch rn and everyone's playing to be her pimp.

[Anonymous No.51658161]

source: dude, trust me

[Anonymous No.51658172]

>supply weapons enemy
>still want Russian things
>how dare you stop giving us your gas
I know Europoors are dumb but really?

[Anonymous No.51658204]

i don't care my country is supplied from Turkish Stream

who is yuropoor now?

get fucked westoids

[Anonymous No.51658244]

>>51658204
my cunt is supplied by algeria
Fuck germoney

[Anonymous No.51658266]

>>51658244
Based Pierre
I'm a Pierre too
Nuke Algiers if they complain

[Anonymous No.51658311]

>>51658073
>have literal gas switch at end of pipeline
>destroy pipeline anyway

[Anonymous No.51658376]

>>51658311
If they switch it off then they can't threaten to switch it off anymore
Though one could alternatively suspect that it's the CIA doing this specifically to weaken Europe's economy further

[Anonymous No.51658614]

>>51658172
Retard. The russians can just turn it off, they don't have to blow it up, especially when they spent the money to build it.
It's the amerimutts who blew it up because they want to sell their LNG.

[Anonymous No.51658686]

>>51658073
these "mysterious" accidents happening to energy infrastructure have been happening in the US as well.
either we're seeing the results of a huge backlog of neglected maintenance, or "they" are continuing their plan for the engineered destruction of everything

[Anonymous No.51658689]

>>51658614

>Americans suffering inflation due to global supply crunch in energy
>lets just make it worse

Sure pal.

Its more likely a desperate move by Putin to try make EU-US relationships break down. They probably want people to think the US did this.

[Anonymous No.51658750]

By breaking their own pipes the Russians can now blame the US or the Germans. If Germany moves in to investigate and fix this it will be a military operation at the Baltic sea that has to do with Russian infrastructure. That is more proof for Putin about Russia being at war with the NATO. If this is in fact what's happening I think no one knows Russia's endgame. Another option is this is done by someone else who benefits from Germany not having gas

[Anonymous No.51658833]

>>51658750

You need to think from Putins view.
He is clinging on to power desperately right now. His forced civilian mobilisation has gone terribly. He is probably close to being killed by his inner circle, and another revolut in Russia. All he is trying to do is save face and cling to power.

What you said could well be his attempt to do that. Hell we dont even know the circumstances the damage has been done. It could have been a disloyal rouge operation within the military for all we know trying to sabotage Putin.

[Anonymous No.51658846]

https://twitter.com/thisisnotarose/status/1574714838395195392

the US likely did it.

[Anonymous No.51658884]

>>51658073
>russia sabotages its own pipeline
>we would never do that despite a mountain of historic evidence that we did far worse

[Anonymous No.51658889]

>>51658073
Do the Russians even have the capability to do this? Germans said it happened underwater and you would need special forces to pull it off and we all know what a absolute joke the Russian military is.

[Anonymous No.51658917]

>>51658833
I agree.
>>51658889
This is a good point tho

[Anonymous No.51658948]

>>51658884
>>51658889
the duality of yurocuck butthurt

[Anonymous No.51659005]

>>51658073
Classic Cia, and you have the brain dead normies believing it's putin doing it too lol

[Anonymous No.51659048]

[Anonymous No.51659192]

>>51658689
Wow- this board really is filled with fucking morons...

[Anonymous No.51659204]

>>51659048
incase there was any doubt how fucking not in control this prez is.

[Anonymous No.51659232]

Where are all the Bull posters?

[Anonymous No.51659248]

>>51658073
Mossad most likely culprit

[Anonymous No.51659263]

Ahh yes its "leaking" on our end. Not sure where the gas is going. Weird! must be a leak...

[Anonymous No.51659405]

>the only country supplied from NS1 is Germany
>NS not operational yet
Who gives a fuck, I want both Russians and Germans to die.
It was definitely done by Russians, you can tell by the denials from shills.

[Anonymous No.51659486]

I can see a good argument for it being the US though.

Europe will be able to ween itself off of Russian gas to LNG/oil no problem within the next 2 years.

If the USA gets a good chunk of the sales, they benefit well in two ways.
Money, and weakening Russia.
Russia will lose huge revenue.

That said, it doesn’t nicely explain why the US would sabotage these pipes. It isnt like they cant be repaired even if it takes some months. Plus, by taking the new share of sales to Europe, they only push Russia towards China where a new pipeline will be built. Its a massive route but Russia will have little choice.

[Anonymous No.51659487]

>>51659405
>It was definitely done by Russians, you can tell by the denials from shills.
Why would Russia get rid of their ability to negotiate by flipping a switch- ya fuck it lets just blow it up....

[Anonymous No.51659551]

>>51658948
>the duality of yurocuck butthurt
with "we" I mean "we westerners"

It is obvious that the russians did not blow up their own pipeline.

[Anonymous No.51659563]

>>51658073
You’re either a retard or a glownigger. If the Vatniks were feeling cheeky they’d break some shit on their side of the border, on dry land. Either that or cutting fibre optic undersea cables. This has Britbong fingerprints all over it

[Anonymous No.51659593]

>>51658073
>Russia destroyed their own pipelines
lmao
https://youtu.be/Yy8MUnlT9Oo

[Anonymous No.51659680]

>>51659048
Either the US is pants on head retarded and did it prematurely, or Russia realized that if the Americans were going to do it anyways they might as well do it themselves first to sew doubt and mistrust within NATO as it looks like the Americans did it. Who the fuck knows anymore

[Anonymous No.51659714]

>>51659487
>Why would Russia get rid of their ability to negotiate by flipping a switch- ya fuck it lets just blow it up....
Plausible deniability? Pipelines can be repaired. Now they can hold Europe to ransom while pretending they aren't using energy as a weapon.

[Anonymous No.51659750]

Cope vatniggers. You will never succeed in blaming this on the US. You fucked up again.

[Anonymous No.51659848]

>>51659714
The Vatniks are betting on the yuropoors blinking first and giving them concessions in exchange for cheap gas ahead of winter. Now you tell me who benefits from doing the geopolitical equivalent of burning the boats behind the G*rms and effectively trapping them in a room with the ruskies?

[Anonymous No.51659971]

>>51659848
There won't be any concessions this winter, reserves are full and countries will enact price caps to minimize damage to consumers. Support for Ukraine isn't faltering yet. This is the equivalent of Russia claiming mechanical failures causing the previous shutdowns with added plausible deniability.

[Anonymous No.51659978]

>>51658073
Was probably Epstein's crew, didn't Ghislaine have a submarine club and license?
The Jews are making so much money and head ground into destroying Europe it's unbelievable.

[Anonymous No.51659994]

>>51658073
>Europe is telling the people around Putin that Europe will buy Russian gas again like before IF they replace Putin and get a new ruling regime
>the people around Putin start planning a coup
>Putin hears about this
>orders the pipelines destroyed

[Anonymous No.51660020]

>>51658073
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1490792461979078662?t=fv1xFwAfB7YyUHDvdDagUw&s=19
Kek

[Anonymous No.51660030]

>>51658073
seems like the public cant force germ politicans into opening the pipeline this winter
surely it was the russians

[Anonymous No.51660053]

Putin would just arrest/kill his opponents, it doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous No.51660078]

>>51660020
Germany canned Nord stream 2 when the war broke out, it was never in use.

[Anonymous No.51660082]

>>51658689
>>51658750
>>51658833
>>51659714
>>51659994
Glowies flooding the thread in a DESPERATE attempt to wash information

Fact 1: Russia could turn off the pipeline if they wanted. Why would they take ENORMOUS risk being caught bombing a western pipeline?

Fact 2: this has been happening all over to energy and food markets in the west. Just take a look at the Parisian market that caught fire a few days ago

Fact 3: US and the west provoked Putin into invading knowing he would shut off the pipelines

Tldr, for whatever reason, the powers that be in the west are engineering a massive energy and food shortage on their own people.

Why is the question?

[Anonymous No.51660094]

>>51658073
Reminder ; The USA staged a false flag in the Gulf of Tonkin to start a war with Vietnam.
Do not trust ANY war propaganda.

[Anonymous No.51660104]

>>51659994
This is actually a pretty logical conclusion. Basically, the gas is not coming back on, can't reverse course. If you're with Putin, you're going down with the ship so you better go all in.

[Anonymous No.51660154]

>>51658143
This is incredible AI. My mind can’t even grasp this right now. What are the implications of such sophisticated artwork created in seconds like this?

[Anonymous No.51660241]

>>51660154

[Anonymous No.51660294]

>>51660082
>Fact 1: Russia could turn off the pipeline if they wanted. Why would they take ENORMOUS risk being caught bombing a western pipeline?

Turned off pipeline can be turned on if a coup deposes Putin, a destroyed pipeline is destroyed.

[Anonymous No.51660302]

>>51660154
In 5 years we won't be able to tell what's real and what isn't anymore

[Anonymous No.51660397]

>>51660154
You know the Singularity? Where AI evolves so fast you can't predict what will happen tomorrow?
You're in it.
That's why they're trying to start a nuclear war. To slow down the AIs just a little bit.

[Anonymous No.51660412]

>>51660082
>Why is the question
They want WW3. They know the system is crumbling and they need to reset it.

[Anonymous No.51660420]

>>51660082
>Why is the question?
New financial system is the answer.
Destroy the current system,
Wait for chaos,
Implement new crypto financial system.

[Anonymous No.51660429]

>>51660082
>the powers that be in the west are engineering a massive energy and food shortage on their own people.
Well, in that case I do believe I'll vote for a third party.

[Anonymous No.51660455]

>>51660078
This just solidifies that they can't back out. It's like burning a bridge after you've crossed it to prevent a retreat by your own soldiers.

[Anonymous No.51660459]

>>51660104
derranged conclusion to draw. if putin knew someone was plotting a coup he'd just have them shot. theres 2 countries that have developed undersea drones to "protect" pipelines and cables, the UK and the US. the UK in fact has devoted considerable resources to this due to its location at the GIUK gap.

my finger is pointed directly at the british ministry of defense and MI6 for this particular operation. putin has neither the motive, the opportunity and barely the capability

[Anonymous No.51660526]

>>51660459
as far as the british motive is concerned, they hope to goad russia in to partially destroying europe to regain their dominant position on the continent once the dust settles

[Anonymous No.51660729]

>>51658689
Wrong again, it’s a Russian military Psyop. They want you to think they did it, to blame the Americans, to make you think they want you to think it was them. But really it wasn’t.

[Anonymous No.51660780]

>>51659593

[Anonymous No.51660833]

>>51660729
>russians detroy a vital piece of national infrastructure to attempt a ass backwards 4d chess move where the result is everyones blaming russia anyway

this is your logical deduction skills on reddit.com

[Anonymous No.51660880]

>>51659971
>There won't be any concessions this winter, reserves are full and countries will enact price caps to minimize damage to consumers.
PRICE CAP = SHORTAGES
SHORTAGES = RATIONING
RATIONING = SHUTTING DOWN BUSINESSES
SHUTTING DOWN BUSINESSES = ECONOMIC COLLAPSE AND TRADE DEFICIT
ECONOMIC COLLAPSE AND TRADE DEFICIT = HYPERINFLATION TRYING TO PRINT THE PROBLEMS AWAY WITH FAKE MONEY
FUCKING HELL, WHY YUROPOOR ARE SO RETARDED
I REALLY WANNA GO BACK AND ENJOY MY DEAR ITALY, BUT NO, WE NEED TO WASTE OUR FINANCIAL, ECONOMICAL, ENERGETIC FUTURE ON SOME FUCKING DIRT LAND CALLED UKRAINE WHICH IS NONE OF MY BUSINESS
FUCKING KYS
I'D RATHER STAY IN FUCKING THIRD WORLD SEA COUNTRY FOREVER RATHER THAN SPEND A SINGLE CENT SUPPORTING THE WAR OF A COCAINE ADDICTED JEWISH ACTOR

[Anonymous No.51660913]

>>51660880
Take your meds

[Anonymous No.51660935]

>>51660880
based meds dodger

[Anonymous No.51660982]

>>51660913
learn history and economics you fucking mongoloid
there is only outcome supporting this US proxy war
YOU EATING DIRT (or very likely, bugs)

[Anonymous No.51661021]

>>51660880
why do glowies glow so much? Are they radioactive?

[Anonymous No.51661029]

>>51658376
Why do the CIA need to weaken Europe? They're already subservient to the US

[Anonymous No.51661038]

>>51658244
>>51658266
>the Fourth Republic was destroyed by ALGERIA

[Anonymous No.51661098]

>>51658073
>jew do bad things that harm nations
>blame russia
yes

[Anonymous No.51661109]

>>51658073
Obviously Russia did it as retaliation for sanctions, US has no motive, Russia has motive and means

[Anonymous No.51661133]

>>51660526
britain gave up their entire empire without a lost war and are in the process of even losing scotland. britain is not controlled by patriots/imperialists since long. this was either the usa, russia or ukraine. also for destroying pipes in 80 m depth one just needs an underwater drone and explosives. improvised that would cost a few houndred thousands.

[Anonymous No.51661175]

>>51661133
it would take more than that to get away with it without leaving a trace of who did it.

[Anonymous No.51661177]

>>51658073
dude US or UK divers did this. It's called blocking off a path -for Germany. There's no return for them or at least they got the message.

[Anonymous No.51661186]

100% False flag to usher in the great reset. No question. If it happened at all. How would we even know?
>it was on TV!
Ah, yes.

[Anonymous No.51661207]

>>51661029
They need to steal Europe's industry because they don't have any, basicly the globalist empire cannibalizing itself because they can't grow anymore. Read the leaked Rand Corporation paper, they say it's fake, but the incentives are there.

[Anonymous No.51661209]

its so obvious

putin has calls on oil. the whole war is an elaborate ruse so they print

[Anonymous No.51661224]

>>51659593
Rumor is Russia and Germany started negotiations to resume Nordstream flows, and a "third country" found out and took action.

[Anonymous No.51661236]

>>51660082
This is just dumb

[Anonymous No.51661242]

>>51661177
>>51661224

[Anonymous No.51661282]

>>51658073
Why would Russia want to sabotage their own pipeline after opening holding it back on multiple occasions? if they wanted to cut ties they’d do it publicly. the only one benefiting is the US, that has sabotaged many attempts of Germany to buy from other nations than theirs and its vessel states.

[Anonymous No.51661339]

>>51661175
who said that theydidnt leave a trace? investigating in 80 m depth is difficult and if it turns out it was the wrong party germany will never tell the public who bombed the pipes. because germany is cucked and not interested in self preservation. it is publicly known that e.g. the usa records german phone and internet communication and even the german bundestag in special and nobody in germany cares.

[Anonymous No.51661374]

>>51658689
The US Navy was nearby a a few days ago doing "manouvers"
Kys glownigger and get out of this board
Go back to plebbit or go watch your drag queen shows in your break at your catefeteria

[Anonymous No.51661393]

>>51661339
People know and people care, but there's not much we can do about it. Don't think we have a high opinion of Americans, the only ones that still believe burgers are our allies are boomers that are stuck in the 80's.

[Anonymous No.51661410]

>>51659048
This meant something different and was already achieved months ago, scholz the übercuck stood right beside biden shen he said that too, first thing germany did when russia invaded was cancel ns2

[Anonymous No.51661580]

>>51658073
>>51659048
>>51658846
this
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1490792461979078662

>>51659405
NS1 was operational, NS2 wasn't

>>51660082
>Fact 1: Russia could turn off the pipeline if they wanted.
and they did so.. NS1 was barely operating, but still working.

[Anonymous No.51661598]

>>51661374
Just like how a ukie SU-25 shotbdown MH17 because it mistook it for Putins plane, right vatnigger? Everytime you blunder like this you vatniggers go active and start spreading false narratives.

[Anonymous No.51661733]

>>51658073
Is it a good idea to invest into gas stocks now?

[Anonymous No.51662121]

>>51660104
This. Its Cortes burning his boats before marching on Tenochtitlan.

[Anonymous No.51662213]

>>51658073
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbSONCdOrNs
>Be PoW Russian in Ukraine
>About to be killed by a Nazis firing squad
>Ivan why are you smiling
>Even in death you can not defeat me
>My live stream still shows I have working gas and water

[Anonymous No.51662594]

>>51660880
Italy is by far the most financially retarded in all of Europe.

[Anonymous No.51662700]

>>51658073
>Russia destroyed their own pipeline
Holy shit how stupid are you mate? Please tell me you've taken an IQ test before. Post it here big boy.
I didn't even read any of that shit you wrote either. Took me one good glance at the title mate, and that's all I needed.
You're dumber than rocks you bloke, and that should be a compliment for yah.
Fucking hell this board has really gone and turned to shit now eh?

[Anonymous No.51662778]

>>51658143
Source:mainstream media

[Anonymous No.51663680]

>>51658073

[Anonymous No.51663766]

>>51659486
>That said, it doesn’t nicely explain why the US would sabotage these pipes.
Europa is america economical rival. By sabotaging the energy sector in europe, america increase europeans productivity costs. Europe is then less competitive. America take over the international markets to the detriments of europe.
An other reason is that america doesn't want an europe-american alliance. Indeed, the combination of european engineering and russian vast natural ressources, would constitute a serious threat to american hegemony.

[Anonymous No.51663836]

>>51660082
>for whatever reason, the powers that be in the west are engineering a massive energy and food shortage on their own people.
This artificially increase the price of products. The rate of profit is too low. Markets are saturated. By doing this, they de-saturate the market, and artificially increase the rate of profit, by creating artificial scarcity.

[Anonymous No.51663880]

>>51658073
It's just a small leak. Nothing to worry about....

[Anonymous No.51663891]

>>51660094
To know the truth, it's pretty easy indeed. Just believe the opposite of what mainstream media says. Truth is not so hard to find in the end.

[Anonymous No.51663899]

its 100% the West you retards

[Anonymous No.51663927]

>>51659750
cia nigger gtfo

[Anonymous No.51663958]

>>51663891
the opposite sometimes OR read between the lines
Pelosi went to Armenia to spout some bullshit nice words but the US, EU, UK, and ZOG goals are to nerf Armenia to pwn Russia and Iran using Turks lol

[Anonymous No.51663985]

>>51658614
Well if they just turned it off they would get the blame plus blowing it up fuels speculations. Both US and Russia have motive. I dont think Ukros did it tho, it would be pretty stupid for them to piss of Euros

[Anonymous No.51664046]

>>51661207
This. Unironically.

[Anonymous No.51664396]

>>51660729
They want you to think they didn't do it, in order to make you think they did it in order to make you believe they didn't do it after all for making you think they did it in fact but did it for making you think they didn't think you'll believe they would think you'll believe they'll do it for thinking you'll believe they will think you will believe it when knowing you'll know they will not think you'll know they did it.

[Anonymous No.51664804]

>>51660241
>AI watermark
lmao

[Anonymous No.51664805]

Now that europe has been severed physically from the two nord stream pipelines, the energetic crisis is inevitable.
You will have the eco lockdowns.

[Anonymous No.51664870]

>>51660833
>Can't understand appeal to clown world humor
>No comprehension of sarcasm
>Calls others redditors out of nowhere
I'm thinking you're the real tourist here

[Anonymous No.51664980]

>>51660833
>russians destroy a vital piece of national infrastructure to attempt an ass backwards 4d chess move where the result is everyone blaming russia anyway

Well that does sound like something Putin would do, 100%.

[Anonymous No.51665268]

My money is on a joint US/UK operation. The tell will be, instead of Germany blaming Russia, they'll just say they never found out who did it.

Now Putin has no blackmail power, and EU has no way out. Big US win.

Russia giving a huge win to the US to make it look like US did it, when Russia would probably get the blame anyway makes zero fucking sense. Its not like the EU goy npc's will ever turn on America anyway. Its such an easy play for the US. Spy on your cuck bitche's EU leaders and Bomb their small dick pipelines with 100% certainty of never getting any blame or blowback lol.

[Anonymous No.51665475]

>>51665268
this 100%. Anyone saying it was Russia forgot they can turn the valve on or off. Fucking hate the shill flooding from pol

[Anonymous No.51665581]

Obvious CIA ops

[Anonymous No.51665608]

>>51665475
exactly. And "muh plausible deniability". Lets get blamed for blowing up western infrastructure which is a declaration of war instead of getting blamed of turning off the gas and doing energy blackmail ! (when the EU was sanctionning shit anyway so no one gives a fuck if Putin turns it off, its fair play). Also now Russia has no way of making money with their pipelines now or in the future.

This is a big blow to Russia's and EU's economy, it fucking only benefits the US. Of course those fuckers did it.

Only other thing could be Macron secretely backstabbing Germany but hes such a german cock sucker I have a hard time believing it.

[Anonymous No.51665653]

Flying from the US to London tomorrow, am I about to get shot out of the sky by Ruskies lads?

[Anonymous No.51665690]

>>51660154
high volume shitposting in a good way

[Anonymous No.51665875]

>>51660082
>Tldr, for whatever reason, the powers that be in the west are engineering a massive energy and food shortage on their own people.
>Why is the question?

same shit with corona
while in theory you would expect that the epidemic restrictions would damage the economy and that the billionaires would disapprove, the reality was the complete opposite
the rich got massively richer throughout it and were enthusiastic about the restrictions. they even swallowed up the market share of smaller/medium businesses that went bankrupt

chances are they want to continue this wealth consolidation at the hands of the few, through a shock event that only the top 0.01% of big money will be able to handle
before it was all about tech, now it will be about "sustainability". only the top ranked ESG companies will survive this, "the environment" and "russia" will be used to shut down all opposition much like "the science" was used previously

we already see glimmers of this in the dutch treatment of farmers; farmers are very low on the ESG ladder; they will be replaced with insect breeders

[Anonymous No.51665952]

>>51660082
>Why is the question?
If you want to make radical changes to the system, you have to make the peasants beg for it

[Anonymous No.51665994]

>>51658073
fucking mutts
with friends like these, we don't need enemies

[Anonymous No.51666010]

>>51665608
>Only other thing could be Macron secretely backstabbing Germany but hes such a german cock sucker I have a hard time believing it.
Macron has no free will. He is a Mk ultra. Macron = (Mk) Monarch. The birthdate of Brigitte macron is the exact same day Mk ultra was created.

[Anonymous No.51666011]

>>51663680
Source? My German sucks so it's difficult for me to find this article on ndr.de..

[Anonymous No.51666101]

>>51666011
https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/schleswig-holstein/US-Navy-zeigt-Flagge-in-der-oestlichen-Ostsee,usnavy102.html

[Anonymous No.51666115]

>>51665875
I hope strong but somewhat cheap AI is feasible
Otherwise we're in for a slow, painful grind towards a better world, the elite is almost untouchable these days, too mobile, too powerful, too connected

[Anonymous No.51666122]

>>51666101
https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/mecklenburg-vorpommern/Drei-Lecks-an-Nord-Stream-Pipelines-Hinweise-auf-Detonationen,nordstream810.html

3 US ships on the baltics, 3 leaks on the pipe?
probably a coincidence

[Anonymous No.51666133]

This is a tweet from the Chairman of the EU-USA delegation at the EU Parliament, lmao

[Anonymous No.51666147]

>>51658073
>russia
you mean the cia

[Anonymous No.51666193]

>>51663680
>>51666101
>>51666122
Checked, thanks fren.

> 3 US ships on the baltics, 3 leaks on the pipe?
That and them turning off their automatic ship identification systems (AIS) does provide for some pretty compelling evidence of US interference, I have to question the timeline of this operation though, as the article is from 03.08.2022..

[Anonymous No.51666241]

>>51666193
>I have to question the timeline of this operation though, as the article is from 03.08.2022..
in case you're an american, 8 means august not march. 3 is the day

[Anonymous No.51666329]

>>51666241
> in case you're an american, 8 means august not march. 3 is the day
I'm not, but still, it took them almost two months to blow them up.

[Anonymous No.51666356]

>>51666133
Checked. This isn't sarcasm either, he's sincerely thanking the US: https://twitter.com/sikorskiradek/status/1574777986737655810

[Anonymous No.51666501]

>>51660082
>US and the west provoked Putin into invading knowing he would shut off the pipelines

As if Russia ever needed to be "provoked" into invading their neighbors. Dumbfuck Russian propaganda and you fell for it.

[Anonymous No.51666562]

>>51658073
Best theory I've seen is that was the Russians blowing it up, showing they can blow up Norway's pipeline (or something else next) if they want to. But it does seem kinda weird how no one seems to know who did it?

[Anonymous No.51666607]

>>51666562
Wouldn't it make more sense to straight up blow Norway's pipeline without drawing additional attention first? What's there to be gained exactly? If they wanted to make a point they should have done so before construction began in order to ward off investment.

[Anonymous No.51666608]

>>51658073
>Russia destroyed their own pipelines
Why Russians are like that?

[Anonymous No.51666617]

>>51658073
US did it to cripple europe and drive massive hatred toward russia who will inevitably be blamed

[Anonymous No.51666625]

>>51666562
The guy at the EU parliament who's in charge of fostering relations with the US seems to know who did it. See >>51666133 & >>51666356

[Anonymous No.51666645]

>>51665608
Macroni is too busy blowing Haitians in Versailles to even order it. Besides, the only two suspects are UK or US, UK doesn't act without US supervision. These fuckers in the Pentagon and State Department are going to get a lot of people killed because Paul Kikeman said wars are good for le Heckin economerinos!

[Anonymous No.51666646]

>>51666010
based schizo

[Anonymous No.51666810]

>>51666608
Why would they invade a smaller country that everyone sympathies with. It is one thing to invade a far away middle east country. It is another thing to a white european country.

[Anonymous No.51666819]

>>51666607
Yeah, I'm not sure desu. I guess the point would be the fear of them doing it instead of actually doing it. Norway is a NATO country so attacking Norway might trigger the article 5 if Russia actually did it. I don't think Putin actually wants to challenge NATO directly so the fear is their only realistic option.

[Anonymous No.51666870]

>>51666645
> the only two suspects are UK or US, UK doesn't act without US supervision.
Reminder that UK sabotaged peace negotiations back in april:
- https://twitter.com/BMarchetich/status/1564663207087804422
- https://twitter.com/BMarchetich/status/1564663210204172288
- https://www.foreignaffairs.com/russian-federation/world-putin-wants-fiona-hill-angela-stent

[Anonymous No.51666929]

>>51660880
negative 9999 points added to social CBDC score. Report to googlelahg for criticism of master zelensky.

[Anonymous No.51667070]

>>51658073
>Russia destroyed their own pipelines

[Anonymous No.51667193]

>>51666929
How do I recover from -999 score?

[Anonymous No.51667210]

>>51666810
Slavs doing slav things. Who cares? Is it worth blowing up the economy and ruining everyone's lives over? No.

[Anonymous No.51667222]

>>51667070
I knew it ! Vatniggers can't deny it anymore ! All that leaking gas is like anudah Shoah ! Kill Putler and death to all Russian pigs !

[Anonymous No.51667240]

>>51660880
Based and factually truth pilled.

[Anonymous No.51667551]

>>51667070
It's over chuds.....

[Anonymous No.51667655]

it was zelensky

[Anonymous No.51667657]

>>51659487
Putin doesn't want to negotiate. He's burning the boats.

[Anonymous No.51668013]

>>51667193
cahnsoom zee bug juice and do good cahmoonity wahrk to remove zee ehvil carbon from yahr looocal cahmoonity.

[Anonymous No.51668052]

>>51658073
>Mossad damage pipeline on behalf of X state to justify X position and X social outrage....

[Anonymous No.51668120]

[Anonymous No.51668231]

>>51659486
Americans have LNG but need it for their domestic consumption. They've started to sell it to Europeans already, and thus prices are already rising strongly in several east coast states.

[Anonymous No.51668300]

1)

It could well be a sabotage from USA. Former US grand strategist Zbignew Brzezinski said: “It is IMPERATIVE that no Eurasian challenger emerges capable of dominating Eurasia and thus of also challenging America”. Because the US has just 4% of the world’s population, and it’s isolated from the Eurasia continent which has 70% of the world’s population, or 87% with Africa included. Defensively, it’s an advantage to the US, but economically, it’s a handicap. That’s why economically, Eurasia is a competitor to the US and the Euro is a threat to the dollar.
How does the US with an isolated and just 4% of world’s population maintain its position as the world’s biggest economy? The dollar must stay as the world’s reserve currency. This allows the size of the US economy to be highly scaled up, instead of being sized according to the fundamentals.

To be the world’s reserve currency, the dollar must be circulated in the world. The US created a huge consumption-based economy and shifted manufacturing outside, so that dollars flow out of the US to product suppliers like China or Japan. To make products, China and Japan need energy. The US created the Petrol-dollar scheme, so that dollar is circulated to Saudi. With the US stock and financial market much more lucrative than other countries, the dollars from Saudi are attracted back to the US. Money printed in the US to exchange for goods from outside eventually ends up with the Wall Streets, where the rich gets richer. And that completes the cycle of circulation of the dollars.

The American Dream attracted top talents around the world to strengthen the US’ science and technology sectors, and a technological gap is maintained between the US and other major economy like China, so that the US benefits from highly lucrative high-tech product/patent exports, while low profit manufacturing sector is outsourced to China and Vietnam. This is why world leader in 5G, Huawei, are banned in 2019.

[Anonymous No.51668307]

>>51668231

Can we demonstrate an increase if US LNG deliveries prior to this event. They'll astroturf the media, but you should see rapid mobilization of deliveries around this event. For instance, someone working in the industry notices an uptick a couple weeks ago in expected outgoing shipments or whatever. That would be pretty red flag for me. Normally they ignore these small details as they know the media and sheep will never care to analyze the situation.

[Anonymous No.51668336]

>>51668300

If China or Japan bring back all the dollars and exchange to their local currencies, it inflates the local currencies, making their exports expensive. So, China and Japan use some of the dollars to buy US debts (treasury bonds). That’s why the US, a rich country, is in-debt to China which has just 1/5th of the US’ GDP per capita.

And by holding US treasury bills, China and Japan have to support the US dollar, for if the US dollar collapses, their hard earn money would become worthless. After Obama’s “Pivot to Asia” in 2011, which aimed to contain China, China introduced the Belt and Road Initiatives (BRI) in 2013 and diverted some of the dollars into it to reduce the risk of putting all eggs in one basket, and hoping that after these countries are developed, China would have a wider trade market.

With a huge population, if Asia and Africa develop rapidly, the share of the US’ economy shrinks, then the Euro could replace it as the world’s reserve currency. When that happens, the US would no longer be able to print money out of nothing without a hyper inflation like Venezuela. Then the size of the US economy has to fall back to the fundamentals, which today is quite a lot smaller than the inflated economy. That’s why no country in Eurasia is allowed to catch up with the US’ economy. When Japan was catching up fast on the US in the 1980s, they were knocked down to a three decade stagnancy by appreciating the Japanese Yen. And in the last 30 years, the US created conflicts, wars and color revolutions in the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa to destabilise the Eurasia-Africa supercontinent.

[Anonymous No.51668360]

>>51668231
Another thing to look at would be US aid/intervention in Africa. Nigeria and other Saharan African nations are loaded with oil and natural gas. It would make sense to build a pipeline into Spain and maybe expand from there. You'll notice that Biden removed embargos from these civil war torn regions immediately upon assuming office. Might be possible that they're trying to keep these guys from producing as well as stave off Chinese interests.

[Anonymous No.51668366]

>>51668336
3)
When the US prints a lot of money, other countries’ foreign reserves in dollars shrink in value. Furthermore, to prevent exports to the US becoming expensive, these countries have to print money too, which devalues the savings of the people, and causing inflations in these countries. It’s estimated that our savings devalue by 6-9% per year after the abolishment of the gold-backed Bretton Woods system, after which the US prints money based on just the creditability of the dollar.
North America is relatively easy to defend, yet the US has a military budget more than the total of the next 9 countries in the top 10, to protect the dollar with its 800 military bases worldwide.
For the record, the US had no mercy on threats to the dollar:
* In 2000 Saddam Hussein said he would start selling oil in Euros not Dollars.
>> Saddam was hanged by the US.
* In 2009 Gaddafi made Libya export oil in Gold Dinars, not in dollar or Euro.
>> Gaddafi was killed by US-backed NTC.
* Syria had an independent Central Bank NOT under Federal Reserve controlled Bank of International Settlements.
>> Obama attempted to overthrow Bashar al-Assad.
* Iran has been trading oil in currencies other than US dollars since 2011.
>> Iran was being sanctioned by the US.
* After being sanctioned in 2014, Putin started to trade in non-dollar. In 2019, Putin (1) completely ditched dollars in oil trades, (2) sold almost all the US treasury bonds, (3) is now the forerunner in de-dollarization.
>> The US tried to topple Putin by supporting Alexei Navalny. And now the Ukraine war to weaken Russia.
* China (1) introduced the BRI in 2013 which helps many countries to develop and speed up the integration of Eurasia, (2) used non-dollar in oil trades with Iran and Russia, (3) introduced the CIPS, an alternative to the West’s SWIFT system which has been weaponized by America, (4) China’s economy and high technology are catching up fast.
>> China has become the US’ #1 target.

[Anonymous No.51668399]

>>51668366
4)

The Fed has printed 80% of all US dollars in existence since Jan 2020. There was $4.02 trillion dollars in circulation at the beginning of 2020. The number reached $20.08 trillion by Oct 2021. This amounted to an astronomical 30 trillions debt. Coupled with a global rising urge to diversify into non-dollar reserves caused by the US’ sanctions to 39 countries, the dollar is in a creditability crisis.This is the major development which shapes geopolitics in the world.

The US cannot have direct wars with Russia and China because they are nuclear armed. Proxy wars put the battlefields outside of the US, and the US would looked like an outsider. Remember in the 1980s, the US supported the Afghan Mujaheddin in a proxy war against the USSR. Russia and China have clearly defined their redlines. US would use its collaborators Zelensky and Tsai to push across the redlines to trigger the wars, and it would sell weapons to its allies in NATO and AUKUS, and get them to support the wars.

After the dissolution of the USSR in 1991, US President Bill Clinton had two choices: (a) to integrate Russia into Europe and abolish NATO, OR, (b) to slowly alienate Russia to keep Russia and Europe divided. Clinton chose the latter, because if there’s no more Russia “threat”, there would be no more NATO to control Europe. As the first NATO Secretary General, Lionel Ismay described the military role of NATO: “To keep America IN, to keep Russia OUT, to keep Germany (Europe) DOWN”. NATO also allows the US to place missiles in Europe, so if a war break out in Europe, missiles would be flying between Moscow the East and Lisbon in the West, while the US remains safe across the Atlantic.

And politically, the EU is an American creation, as much as a European one. It’s much easier for Washington to control ruling elites at Brussels than having to control all politicians in Europe. The EU is used an ally or a sacrificial depending on the geopolitical needs of Washington.

[Anonymous No.51668445]

>>51668399
5)

The proxy war in Ukraine: 1.Divided Europe from Russia and divided Eurasia. 2.Killed Nord Stream II gas pipeline and German firm Energie Baden-Wuerttemberg has signed up for gas from America Venture Global LNG for 20 years. The US gained control over energy supply to Europe. 3.Created continuity for the Military Industrial Complex after pulling out of Afghanistan. 4.Most importantly, the war strengthened the dollar. Dollar against Euro is now the highest since NATO's bombing of Yugoslavia in Mar 1999 (happened two months after the official launch of Euro as the currency of the EU, which threatened the dollar). A strong dollar together with the Fed’s interest rise in 2022 cause capitals from all over the world to flow into the US’ economy, while collapsing other economies, like Sri Lanka.

Else where, two months after ignoring a warning from Washington against his visit to Moscow, highly popular Imran Khan was ousted from the PM post of Pakistan on 9 Apr 2022. A month after ignoring Biden’s demand to increase oil production, secretary-general of OPEC, Mohammad Barkindo died unexpectedly on July 6 2022.

The US isn’t relinquishing its privilege to loot. Remember after WW II, Europe and Asia were devastated, but the US emerged as the world leader and the dollar became the world’s reserve currency.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IIwltTM4Q

[Anonymous No.51668512]

Isn’t russias entire economy propped up on selling gas? Why would they shoot themselves in their own foot

[Anonymous No.51668593]

>>51668512

i think someone made this because they want to supress ruskies income even more. now russians can't sell gas even they wanted to. where do they now get their income to finance their war? i dont even wanna know.

[Anonymous No.51668605]

>>51668300
>>51668336
>>51668366
>>51668399
>>51668445
what does bitcoin have to do with all this?

[Anonymous No.51668606]

>>51658073
smartcon in 24 hours
better hurry up with WW3 kikes, wouldn't want anon to make it would we?

[Anonymous No.51668660]

>>51659593
>America: WE WILL DO THIS THING TO RUSSIA THAT RUSSIA DOESNT WANT TO HAPPEN, THATS WHY WE, AMERICA, ARE THREATENING TO DO IT TO THEM, RUSSIA

>That thing happens to Russia

>sub 80 IQ goys: WOW, RUSSIA DID IT TO THEMSELVES EVEN THOUGH IT WAS SO DISCERNABLY AGAINST THEIR OWN INTERESTS THAT THEIR BIGGEST RIVAL PUBLICLY THREATENED TO DO THE EXACT THING THAT HAPPENED JUST EARLIER THIS YEAR

this is your brain on 5 eyes propaganda outlets

[Anonymous No.51668678]

>>51668399
Quality post. The true economical enemy of america is europe. By sabotaging Russia to europe pipelines, america force europe to have higher energy prices, thus diminish it's competitivity. Also, it's been years since there has been news that america want to sell it's expensive shale gaz to europe, shipped with boats from america to russia instead of the russian-europe pipeline.
America wins: europe sinks because of high energy costs, thus high production costs, america take over it's european industrial competitor, america makes money by selling it's expensive shale gaz to europe. Europe and russia are divided, america keep it's hegemony.

[Anonymous No.51668700]

>>51668593
The target of the pipelines shutting down is not russia, who can still sell it's energy to asia. It's europe, whose energy costs rise, thus it's productivity cost rise, making it less competitive compared to america.

[Anonymous No.51668788]

>>51668300
>Former US grand strategist Zbignew Brzezinski
This. For all those who thinks this is conspiracy theory, read the grand chessboard, by Zbignew Brzezinski, published in 1997.

[Anonymous No.51668799]

>>51668300
>>51668336
>>51668366
>>51668399
>>51668445
Thank you for taking the time anon
>>51668678
So is it time to move to america?
t. yuropoor

[Anonymous No.51668861]

>>51660154
>the implications

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQXpHa9xI9U

[Anonymous No.51668930]

Imagine trying to play chess agaisnt a machine

[Anonymous No.51668945]

So what’s going to happen? Who is going to die or starve?

[Anonymous No.51668957]

>>51668945
Their plan is to sabotage current leadership

>Muh new world order and sheeeit

Theyre playing both sides

[Anonymous No.51668960]

>YOU SHOULDN'T BLAME RUSSIA WITH NO PROOF YOU MEANY LEFTYS
>also america did it lol

[Anonymous No.51669112]

>>51658143
>>51660241
>>51660302
is this some dall-e shit or something else?

[Anonymous No.51669135]

>>51668300
>>51668336
>>51668366
>>51668399
>>51668445
Wow a quality post in a bait thread. I'd give you a golf clap. Nice CRP vid too.
You forgot a vital element to the way American strategy is formed: Jews.

[Anonymous No.51669149]

>>51668960
https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1574839826674847753?s=21

[Anonymous No.51669261]

>>51660082
They're unitonicqlly doing this because they believe yhe west is killing thr planet. By generating this energy disaster they are lowering pollution. The energy companies can then turn to their congress and say they've gone more green due to lower emissions, pay up.

[Anonymous No.51669403]

>n-no you can't do this!!! only we're allowed to ignore international law and pre-existing treaties! I'm dropping the nuke for real this time, I'm done bluffing you guys!!!

[Anonymous No.51669421]

>>51669403
huh, at least you gave up and admitted it
not a complete NPC

[Anonymous No.51669525]

>>51668700
yeah sure LOL EU was ruskies number one gas markets but not anymore. there isn't, if any, significant gas pipeline to asia where russians could sell their gas

so very poor FUDding attempt. russians are fucked now very badly, they canno't fund anything if they wanted to, gas lines are broken now. they have to sell cabbage nothing else left lol lmao.

[Anonymous No.51669668]

>>51666122
3 ships, 3 leaks, 3 scoops, 3 genders, 3 terms. Deal with it libtards.

[Anonymous No.51669770]

Shmita, negroes. It’s obvious

[Anonymous No.51669792]

[Anonymous No.51669996]

>>51660154
that's just coffee beans, you schizo

take meds

[Anonymous No.51670924]

>>51658917

youre either an absolute moron or glowie or both

[Anonymous No.51671605]

>>51663766

Dumbass. These pipes are fixable. Its a matter of a month or two. That is not a strategy if that is Americans goal for doing this. Think about this logically. Its a short term immediate gain for something. Who benefits?

[Anonymous No.51671638]

>>51665268

There is still a huge pipe delivering has to Europe from russia going through ukraine

[Anonymous No.51671869]

>>51668307
Keen

[Anonymous No.51671878]

>>51658073
Business and Finance?
Also, the gringos did it. Cope and seethe

[Anonymous No.51671919]

>>51658073
It makes perfects sense
>The pipelines were going to discontinued anyways as Europe votes to cut it off
>Get to sow discord
>Get to call a mulligan and get out of contract fees
>Get to claim it was the enemy and rile up dumb russian rubes at home to carry a rusty 100 year old mosin nagant into Ukrain and become fertilizer.
Like what else was Russia going to do with the pipes other then let them rust and break down under the sea.

[Anonymous No.51672017]

>>51658073
BREAKING NEWS: Experts investigated and found an intact Russian passport next to the damaged Nord stream. Confirming it was the Russians who did it and America is blameless.

[Anonymous No.51672200]

>>51672017
Whale farts

[Anonymous No.51672225]

>>51671919

[Anonymous No.51672537]

>>51663766
Nigga you went full retard

[Anonymous No.51672586]

[Anonymous No.51672695]

I'm guessing American pipelines are now fair game too?

It's getting interesting

[Anonymous No.51673567]

>>51659750
Who the fuck is even pretending this was Russia? It makes literally 0 sense. You have more cards holding an on-off switch you control then blowing up the damn thing and not being able to do anything with it either way.

[Anonymous No.51673767]

>>51664396
shiiiiiiiiiet

[Anonymous No.51673815]

What if a grab just snibbed it????

[Anonymous No.51674117]

>>51673815

[Anonymous No.51674135]

>>51658073
>russia destroyed their own pipeline
retard alert

[Anonymous No.51674156]

>>51659714
This is honestly the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard in my life.

[Anonymous No.51674207]

>>51658689
you are retarded, the us government always hurts its allies and americans, they only listen to jews and arabs because they dont respect americans. and for good reason because these faggots only respect people that will kill em.

[Anonymous No.51674217]

>>51660420
CBDC isn't crypto

[Anonymous No.51674243]

>>51658689
Jet fuel cant melt steel beams

[Anonymous No.51674251]

>>51659971
>price caps to minimize damage to consumers
this is how we know you're not from /biz/ lmfao

[Anonymous No.51674287]

>>51668945
>Who is going to die or starve?
india
forget gas, india has drinkable water shortages

[Anonymous No.51674301]

>>51674117
LMFAO

[Anonymous No.51674308]

>>51658073
This shit has jews written all over it they want people to starve just like they did in the ussr

[Anonymous No.51674317]

>>51661236
I know you're not genuine but I'll pretend you are.

Ahem.

Dumb fucking nigger faggot retard just started paying attention: the post

[Anonymous No.51674722]

>>51658073
No wonder then that the market started to be bullish after Russian funds started to reinvest in cryptos. I mean, have you seen dextools lately? everything is green, green and greener.

[Anonymous No.51675426]

>>51672586
lol as if Russia would get through Denmark in any case if it was a war. That's where the NATO would put such a shield that no navy ever could get through.

[Anonymous No.51675461]

>>51659487
Because this makes it "not his fault" that Europe doesn't have that energy. He can blame someone else for a change. By blaming the US he drives a wedge in between them and their EU allies. It isn't hard to figure out that Putin did this. And it's not hard to figure out why.

[Anonymous No.51675547]

>>51668336
>If China or Japan bring back all the dollars and exchange to their local currencies, it inflates the local currencies, making their exports expensive
I see but isn't weak local currency good for exports?

[Anonymous No.51675562]

>>51658073
Putin bought puts and he's trying to crash the market be removing all hope

[Anonymous No.51675699]

>>51663985
there is currently no gas transported in nordstream 2 to my knowing
it doesnt make sense unless they know its over and they sabotage stuff for the next government
otherwise it makes way more sense usa would bomb it to stop any chance of russian gas to europe even in the future hen the ar is over

[Anonymous No.51675917]

>>51669792
TOPKEK

[Anonymous No.51676021]

>>51658376
>If they switch it off then they can't threaten to switch it off anymore
no but they can bargain to turn it back on again
which now they can't, so one less chip on the table

[Anonymous No.51676036]

>>51663985
>it would be pretty stupid for them to piss of Euros
if euros get pissed at russians then the support for ukraine against russia would only grow

[Anonymous No.51676053]

>its the russians
>its the americans
nope
pretty sure was somebody else but who?

[Anonymous No.51676253]

>>51659680
Russia was never going to burn the only card they have in their hand in negotiating with Europe anon.

[Anonymous No.51676304]

>>51666501
Shut the fuck up and watch a documentary about the US led Ukrainian coup you simpleton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-UJ8S63Tsw

[Anonymous No.51676318]

>>51661580
archive dot ph/G1tKO

Never forget.

[Anonymous No.51676336]

>>51658073
You crypto pajeet brains deserve to stay poor if you believe Russia sabotaged itself

[Anonymous No.51676351]

>>51666133
as a polak radek is a bit mental but yeah he might be onto something here

[Anonymous No.51676362]

>>51662778
>Source:mainstream media
what mainstream media says the US did it?

none.

fucking retard

[Anonymous No.51676455]

>>51662778
>mainstream media is all against putin

[Anonymous No.51676562]

Best time to invest in USA based LNG companies like cheniere and shell, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.51677878]

>all that schizo vatnick drivel with no sources.
>quality post
Maybe if russia stopped invading countries NATO wouldn't have to exist.