HBAR

[Anonymous No.51634408]

two more weeks hashchads

[Anonymous No.51634421]

>>51634408
my nose -> her anus

[Anonymous No.51634480]

>>51634408
Don't care about hbar but I wanna lick Satania's feet in those stockings

[Anonymous No.51634543]

>>51634480
>>51634421
>>51634408
>the kind of mentally ill weirdos who own HBAR
You have to be this crazy to hold a dead shitcoin for this long I guess.

[Anonymous No.51634551]

>>51634543
my friend I hold Chainlink (ticker: LINK)

[Anonymous No.51634560]

>>51634543
I specifically said I don't care about hbar. You're the one needing meds sir.

[Anonymous No.51635799]

Two more weeks untill two more weeks

[SAUCE No.51636358]

>>51634408

TWO (2) MORE WEEKS

[Anonymous No.51636440]

Not trying to FUD, legitimate /HBAR/ question: I believe the tech is groundbreaking and the work Hedera is doing is promising in the space, but from an investment point of view, how do you justify the seemingly obvious pyramid scheme setup where approx 16% of total HBAR supply was bought for $0.001-$0.005? SAFT3 looks to have been a play to ensure the SAFT1-2 buyers have a guaranteed 100x target to dump on, and obviously last year SAFT3 buyers had a reasonable exit too (although 3-5x is not really that lucrative in this context). I am aware of the release schedule for early buyers, but in my mind really that just means the market bleed will last for even longer and price will struggle to ever moon (eso considering already relatively large market cap). This is not even considering the huge number of tokens regularly dumped by founders/execs/employees, which are arguably received even cheaper than SAFT1.

[Anonymous No.51636477]

>>51636440
>16% of total HBAR supply was bought for $0.001-$0.005?
without this hedera wouldn't get investors. without investors they can't do anything.
how do you think most tech startups works?

[Anonymous No.51636531]

>>51636440
>I believe the tech is groundbreaking
your first mistake

[Anonymous No.51636728]

>>51636477
Samefag you’re replying to here posting from phone. Your answer is a non answer and isnt reasonably convincing against it being a glorified Ponzi scheme.the problem is not so much the profit % of the early investors, but the tokenomics implications and potential profit for later investors given the absurd proportion of total supply which is distributed at sub 0.005c.
>>51636531
Your being too brain dead to see it doesn’t invalidate the legitimacy of hashgraph tech, and the relevance of its patented nature.

[Anonymous No.51636738]

>>51636728
>>51636477
>>51636440
samefag to stir up discussion

[Anonymous No.51636814]

>>51636738
Nope asking a legitimate question which should be simple. I have no HBAR and would buy if the tokenomics didn’t seem like an obvious scam.

[Anonymous No.51636943]

>>51636728
not an argument

[Anonymous No.51636998]

>>51636943
What is not an argument? I have nothing to argue and haven’t attempted to make any argument. I’ve expressed a legitimate observation which calls into question the integrity of HBAR as an investment option, and am requesting explanation. Your response was a non answer to the issue. If you legitimately don’t have a response then I suggest you dump your bags rather than stay in an investment you don’t understand which could very well be a ponzi which already peaked.

[Anonymous No.51637043]

>>51636998
still not an argument

[Anonymous No.51637052]

>>51634408
based

[Anonymous No.51637082]

>>51637043
Why make a thread about something and refuse to discuss? Smells like pajeet scammers working overtime to me. /biz/ really went to shit last 2 bullruns

[Anonymous No.51638177]

>>51636440
All investments are ponzi to some extent.
Gold is ponzi. The people telling you Gold matters did not buy at the same price you are buying now. Same for real estate.

The only question I ask myself is : «Will it be more used or less used in the future?»
And currently, I don’t see any L1 being showed any interest by such a large number and categories of actors. No bank is working with Ethereum. No Fortune 500 is working with Algorand. No supply chain is working with Quant. No university is interested in ICP. Hedera is doing all 4 of those and even some more.
No brainer. The first use case live will cement Hashgraph as the de facto network for Enterprise (the only infrastructure that matters). Token usage + staking + natural greed will mean it could potentially have an ever increasing value, since the fees are dollars pegged so companies don’t care about token price (the main reason I also bought). If it reaches Leemon vision, it could be an asset the the future world depends on, that could give you money daily without any work to do (truly passive) and that will always cost the same to use. Have you ever seen in the history of humanity such an asset ? Even stocks are dependent on a the performance (or perception of) a company.

We are paying now such prices proportionally to the gamble we are making. Same for early investors + they had the privilege to have someone introduce them to such technology early on. So Early saft got in sooner and they will mostly leave sooner also, unless they truly don’t care. Then we arrive at the «year of scale», or so. We are here after some announcements so risk has dropped but still, no staking nor tokenization of anything so the vision is still just that, a vision.

If you can see, you know that most of your digital life will be on the hashgraph, because control and tracking of the population is what (((they))) want.

Not selling one hbar before staking is live, sharding is live and stocks are tokenized.

[Anonymous No.51638300]

>>51638177
Sure I accept all you’ve said. My question towards current HBAR investors/supporters, as a prospective HBAR investor, is how do you justify the investment when something between 20-50% of total supply is already allocated for less than half a cent? Wouldn’t you expect to be dumped on until the majority of these coins has been sold? Why would the devs and family and friends then care about the success of the project once they’ve made their billions?

[Anonymous No.51638620]

Insider here. HBAR is going to go absolutely parabolic in October. Screenshot this.

[Anonymous No.51638702]

>>51638300
By holding you get money for doing nothing via staking, which in turn stabilizes the network and makes it self sustaining. As the anon above said, this is fukin unheard of and tethering on impossible to achieve. Rich ppl love passive income hence why they buy dividend stocks. Hbar has the same function but without depending on Q1 results.

Who gives a shit when angel investors bought, why would they dump it all when their 500million can be worth 5 billion in 10 years or more as they now have generational wealth. (100 year company)

Rich ppl aren't rich because they bought low and sold high, theyre rich because they maintain their networth and keep making more via xyz.

I justify my investment by seeing this opportunity and taking a chance. Not being a pajeet moonboi helps as well. Do you not think algo, xrp etc dont have a shit ton of whales who will dump? Are those network designed like hashgraph??? No, so your worry is more valid in those cases.

Youre lile the commie fag who complains bout musk gaming the system whilst buying 5$ lattes everyday and crying bout being poor. Hbar is a chance to invest BEFORE the system is exists.

I've lost my career n shit due to being right bout the judaism behind covid and im taking the same bullheaded stance on hedera. The cumulative IQ of humanity has shown to be beyond retarded, and if one can look through cryptos veil of; TA, crypto thots, nft community faggots and charlatan experts, one may also come to the same conclusion of hedera being the play of a lifetime.

[Anonymous No.51638757]

>>51638620
Give us a crumb or gtfo

[Anonymous No.51639499]

>>51638177
>No bank is working with Ethereum.
Hate to be this guy but eth is working with JPM. They were a very early investor.

[Anonymous No.51639778]

>>51638620
>>51638757
Despite my concerns above, I could believe just based on coinbase mid October and phase 2 staking soon. Still not buying a bag.

>>51638702
Sounds like cope desu. Writing 5000 words of filler doesn’t make you right. Yes, I accept that IF HBAR ends up as a 100 trillion MC token then my concerns are irrelevant. Our investment decisions today can only be based upon what we know about the market today, and placing bets gambling on the future. It’s also unreasonable to believe anyone who makes 500mil off this would hold to wait for it to be 5bil, unless it has already reached the point of guaranteed market dominance.

Your justification on chance is completely valid, and generally how /biz/ seems to approach crypto. Technically it’s terrible investment perspective though. The same chance looked great during the bull run at 20c and 50c, but obviously it’s objectively better to be getting in at 6c. If the current circumstances of the (bear) market and over saturation of holders waiting to dump their free coins suggests it’s more likely to reach 1c next than 50c, then obviously it would be preferable to buy then for an easy 6x. At the end of the day, $0.001 to $0.06 is still better than $0.06 to $2 (which puts hbar at top 3 cryptos, something even the most optimistic case wouldn’t expect in the next 3 years)

[Anonymous No.51640146]

>>51639499
Correct, I forgot about that but the JPM / Consensys shenaningans are here. Hilarious when you think about the fact that most people hate on Hbar because of "muh corporate"

>>51638702
Good point about dividend. There will be "Start your own node" kits/services being sold to non-technical whales, so they can stake at an even higher yield.

The play of a lifetime indeed. The future will for sure be multi-chain, but once Google (and maybe Amazon ?) starts the shift to a Web3 infrastructure and tear down the garden walls of websites-siloed data, I think Hedera and sharding will have a bigger role to play.

My only fear is that there is a competitor to Hedera quietly building something better and that I don't see it due to being too focused on it. But even though someone could replicate the technical side, the governance council is a marvel in itself. That's the reason they went open-source that soon I think : they realized that they built the real moat so someone could create another Hashgraph and hype it, but real entreprises will not build their business on an amateur chain that has no proper governance.

>>51639778
>he doesn't plan for the regulations that will allow retirement funds and other investments vehicles to assimilate Hbar
>he thinks crypto current market cap will be the same in 10 years
>he doesn't know about the tokenization of everything coming up

I cannot help you see where the world is headed, you have to do it for yourself. Cut the shit news, stop the social networks, just read more books. Your mind will naturally guide you to the future they don't want you to think about, so you don't invest and escape the neo-feudalism that is coming up.
If you are curious, here are some things to look up :

>CBDC
>Tokenization of Everything
>fido2 and passwordless authentification
>https://www.forbes.com/sites/worldeconomicforum/2016/11/10/shopping-i-cant-really-remember-what-that-is-or-how-differently-well-live-in-2030/?sh=34d7767e1735

[Anonymous No.51640369]

>>51640146
This has the potential to be a good thread, so here are some more questions for the information hungry :

https://www.siliconrepublic.com/enterprise/crypto-blockchain-encryption-quantum-computers
>Hedera is preparing for quantum computer shenanigans

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/the-tokenization-of-the-world-starts-now
>Enough said

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/biz/2022/09/816_336763.html
>Expansion coming up

https://cointelegraph.com/news/think-tank-launches-technical-sandbox-exploring-united-states-cbdcs
>Emtech is built on Hedera

https://www.namecoinnews.com/usd-adc-stablecoin-will-be-secured-by-openzeppelin-on-the-hedera/
>More expansion

[Anonymous No.51640543]

>>51640146
Again I accept the case of Hedera powering everything and being a quadrillion market cap. It obviously isn’t guaranteed, but sure, it could happen. I the simple problem still unanswered is the coin distribution. If BTC or ETH had half of their total max supply owned by a tiny group, there is zero chance they would have taken off, no matter how novel the technology. I can’t help but feel HBAR has this issue, and therefore that the project is more aimed at making founders rich, rather than actually being a world changing force (which I acknowledge it could be, if the founders/devs are sincere and follow through). I also accept tokenisation future and large increase in crypto market cap. I don’t see how this is relevant to my current line of conversation though. That larger market cap could be attributable to any other crypto or hbar competitor without hbar even remaining alive.

[Anonymous No.51640541]

>>51640146
And the fact that Banks and big corps aren't going to use decentralized shit coins.

[Anonymous No.51640657]

Hfart

[Anonymous No.51640671]

>>51640146
>My only fear is that there is a competitor to Hedera quietly building something better and that I don't see it due to being too focused on it
Say my name

[Anonymous No.51640723]

>>51640543
Don't buy then, pretty simple.
Also look up how much Eth JPM and Lubins have.

[Anonymous No.51641037]

>>51640541
True.

>>51640543
>I also accept tokenisation future and large increase in crypto market cap. I don’t see how this is relevant to my current line of conversation though
>That larger market cap could be attributable to any other crypto or hbar competitor without hbar even remaining alive.

That's exactly our point : for the tokenization of the world to start now, you need :
-Something good technical, that can hold 100,000 tps and does not break under pressure.
-Something that is not too expensive to use.
-Something decentralized, otherwise it is just a glorified database.
-Something that doesn't use too much "muh carbon" and that respect the ESG narrative being conveniently pushed.

I ask you now : do you currently see something better than the Hashgraph to solve this problem ? Because I can guarantee issues are being worked on right now by innovators, not in 3 years.
What are you currently holding if I may ask ?
Not Eth I hope
https://protos.com/consensys-lawsuit-jpmorgan-owns-critical-ethereum-infrastructure/

>>51640671
I don't know where I stand with XRP, I feel like it tried to do what Hedera did, but effed up on the shilling. I bought some only because of that. And also because they are working on CBDC also.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/think-tank-launches-technical-sandbox-exploring-united-states-cbdcs (Also with Emtech / Hedera)

[Anonymous No.51641253]

Hedera won’t move significantly in price until market makers can run nodes. Whether that’s community or anonymous nodes remains to be seen, but the community nodes will have exponentially lower Hbar to accumulate. So any corpos that don’t mind kyc will probably do better in the long run than the principled cucks. Community nodes scheduled for q4 2022 (now)

[Anonymous No.51641400]

the dawn of hedera defi is upon us brothers. heres some alpha for you: https://app.dragonglass.me/hedera/tokens/0.0.1298811
the lp was created about an hour ago starting with 40k hbar and has since jumped up to 50k hbar

[Anonymous No.51641691]

>>51641400
checked
sui/make it?

[Anonymous No.51641960]

>>51641691
who knows just wanted to share to my fellow hopeless hbar bros weve suffered enough

[Anonymous No.51641978]

>>51641960
TY Ser

[Anonymous No.51642067]

>>51641253
True. The "main" argument against Hedera will be silenced by now, and we could even imagine some companies that you could "lend your hbars" too ? A higher yield but higher risk also if the company goes under, unless we have some insurance...
A whole ecosystem could be be built on that, or DAO if you may call them like this.

>>51641400
I don't think waiting for defi (the ultimate ponzi) is the right call for Hedera. I'd rather bet on the society moving to a Gattaca dystopia, but you do you.

[Anonymous No.51642152]

Fuck it, while we're having a semi-serious HBAR thread, how do you know if a pump is unsustainable? Say if in 30 days it pumped to $2-3 and this happened before the price "truly reflected the value", would you swing part of your stack or just continue to stake and DCA

[Anonymous No.51642367]

>>51642152
are you high out of your mind

[Anonymous No.51643201]

>>51640369
Emtech also has working PoC that are being used in African countries and are further along the CBDC timeline than the others in that sandbox competition.

Carmelle also stated that when she was at Hypeledger, their CTO switched from ETH to Hedera after only 1 week of testing as it was in his words a, "no-brainer". This si the biggest issue with Hedera, the introduction/awareness phase. People are still talking about blockchains when blockchains have become irrelevant thanks to Hashgraph and other lesser DLTs (from a technical standpoint).

Avery etc going live will catalyze said awareness as companies will begin to comprehend the scale at which Hedera can be used to their own advantages.

As for tokenizing the world, its already beginning. Only thing slowing it down are the jews trying to cling onto their control until the last spin of the dradle... Clock is ticking.

https://twitter.com/DLA_Piper/status/1574364197915443201
>Digital asset creation engine @TOKO_network
has been granted a Provisional Virtual Assets license by the Dubai Virtual Assets Regulatory Authority (VARA). TOKO, which we work in collaboration with, is opening a Dubai office as its Middle East regional HQ -

Once the usecases go live and the network becomes self-sufficient, the decoupling from BTC will begin and the Hedera's floor will rise year by year and as more usecases go live and more txs hit the network, said curve will grow exponentially. Also the real XR metaverse running on Hedera is Leemon's current project. Look at how far we've come with CPUs with integrated GPUs. Now imagine this in 10 years via google glass style smartphone/glasses...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-grAXqs_jU

TLDR: Hedera = one nigga who created the real War Games sim + another nigga who got the algorithm via divine intervention.

[Anonymous No.51643246]

hbar exit point should be $5, correct?

[Anonymous No.51643268]

>>51642367
>are you high
i'm high on life

[Anonymous No.51643313]

>>51642152
pump is only unsustainable prior to usecases going live, so this current market. Look at my post above about usecases and decoupling.

Swing at your own risk man, price is low enough now to just stack. between 0.055 and 0.07, whats the fukin diff other than few hundred hbar here and there, which will even out. Buy enough to be happy staking and NEVER touching, whilst also having a second small pot to sell off so you can buy cocaine or pokemon cards.

>>51641400
what is this, Hashprobe trying to be the Bloomberg Terminal of DeFI on hedera??

[Anonymous No.51643389]

>>51643246
The goal is to live off of interest. No exit.

[Anonymous No.51643498]

>>51634408
I normally don't save lolis
but when i do..

[Anonymous No.51643557]

>>51643268
bro if you think hbar is going to reach $2 anytime soon you are absolutely delirious no matter how bad i want it to happen too

>>51643313
looks like its aiming to be something like moonarch (bcs) for hedera

[Anonymous No.51644039]

>>51642152
I plan to reach 200K that I will never sell, the rest I will probably sell when it will be enough for a life-changing trip or a down payment for a ranch.

Selling will incur taxes, which I don't like, so I don't plan to sell anytime soon :)

>>51643201
Based post. The DLA Piper tweet from today (!!) I hadn't even seen, that calls for a new market buy !
I always forget that Leemon is working on his version of the metaverse. Interestingly, he said "the glasses will show you info from the phone". I always though the tools of the future would be stand-alone, à la Oculus. It could be cheaper to build and more agnostic ?

Seems like he is exploring a device that could work with your phone, like an Apple Watch ? And all the calculations could be done on the phone ? We'll see soon enough :)

And yeah, the War Games thing is not to be forgotten, they have gamed it in all the ways possible.

>>51643389
You get it.

>>51643557
Who cares about the time it takes ? Your life is now, you invest now in the best asset that you identify. If it takes 10 years to mature but it gives you the best ROI (lol if you think it'll stop at 2$), you invest in it, and live your life.
Your life will not start when you make it. The movie is already rolling, enjoy it !


This thread is one of the best we had in days/wseeks. If you are lurking and have questions about Hbar, you have several anons here to help, don't hesitate !

[Anonymous No.51644374]

Open Memo to the creators of hashprobe.
Your coin is taking off, if you are for real get your shit together.
Token Icon.
Twitter.
White paper.
DOX???

[Anonymous No.51644411]

Where do you cunts keep you hbar? Mine are still on the exchange at the moment. I have a few ledgers that I would like to put them onto. Is there a way I can do that without having a chrome extension wallet? I don't trust chrome extensions with future generational wealth.

[Anonymous No.51644484]

>>51644374
Ya it's weird idk. Bought a small bag though!

[Anonymous No.51644500]

>>51644411
Checked and super checked.
The best option is to have Ledger + MyHbarwallet setup, which is what I have right now.

https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/4943873977373-How-to-access-your-Ledger-HBAR-account-via-MyHbarWallet-?docs=true

Good luck, it ain't easy to setup, but nothing that matters in life is.

[Anonymous No.51644640]

>>51644500
Cheers. I'll have a look when I get home. Other people were saying chrome extensions or android apps, both seem a little unsafe to me.

[Anonymous No.51645557]

>>51644039
ah that makes more sense technologically, glasses that merely project via screen sharing like DEX or someshit, good point.

>>51644640
hashpack or exodus, total ledger support is coming soon so just wait as its a pain in the ass for no reason now.

https://twitter.com/HBAR_foundation/status/1573643146579349504

I will post node distribution as well, this is how council members nodes stack up vs one another.

>>51644484
how did you buy, you associated token in hashpack and then?

[Anonymous No.51646272]

>>51645557
You have to manually look up the token on SS and then it asks you to associate when you buy.

[Anonymous No.51646986]

>>51645557
when youre on saucer swap you have to manually enter the token address, if you just type in PROBE i dont think anything will come up

[Anonymous No.51647209]

>>51646272
>>51646986

mmmkay got it, this feels as sketch as when I bought $WHACKD

[SAUCE No.51648480]

>>51647209

saucesswepper safu hbar foundation backed received 10/10 security scores on all contracts from reputable audit firm hacken team doxxed devs based welcome sauceling

[Anonymous No.51648737]

>>51643557
I don't think $2 is happening soon - I was just asking what one should do in a ridiculous pump scenario.
>>51644039
>200k that I will never sell
Godspeed anon. I'm almost at a make-it stack of 100K, and I am NEVER touching 50K
>>51643201
Based

[Anonymous No.51648878]

New gossip bout gossip with FIS aka the largest payment processor in the world, will be utilizing HCS t ocreate immutable records to prove their stablecoin settlements are all backed 1:1 with fiat currencies. 13billion$ revenue coming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiL7WioCn68

[Anonymous No.51648908]

>>51648878
they're calling this 1:1 backing of Fiat to Stablecoin, Proof of Reserve.

[Anonymous No.51649048]

>>51648878
Might be the downfall of Tether ? Very cool use case and necessary in the future.
Federal Reserve can still print dollars, and then back their printed-out-of-air dollars by printed-out-of-code stablecoins.
Funnily enough they didn't aim for a 1:1 backing with gold or anything like "sound money", but one mustn't challenge the monetary masters of the world.

[Anonymous No.51649163]

>>51649048
the guy specifically mentioned that they aren't touching those algo based stables, they will support the main ones like USDC, and main exchanges ones. So yea, FIS process for major companies. The ponzi will be dying horrible deaths very soon.

Also comparing USDC vs USDT marketcap chart over 1year is interesting... (picrel)

[Anonymous No.51649404]

on a side note with all these 1:1 fiat to stables being done behind the scenes via tokenization, I am curious to see how crypto twitter and BTC thots react once they realize that BTC is nothing more than a shiny token who'se only purpose is a "store of value". Once that 21mil is mined, what happens after as you wont be able to use it for much more other than transfering to another wallet either via BTC super speed or those super efficient and secure L2 forks... :/

Reality will hit these niggas the hardest.

[Anonymous No.51649626]

for what? for hbar to have actual uses cases or dapps that investors and holders have been waiting for the last 3 years? no thanks i would much rather hold MATIC thats partnering with companies and brands that have billions of daily users and consumers monthly

[Anonymous No.51649747]

>>51649626
the use case part of the CBDC and is being built right now

[Anonymous No.51650224]

>>51643313
okay is 100K really enough? I have 100K now and is building another 100K, starting with 5K hbar so far.

[Anonymous No.51650397]

>>51650224
I think the original metric was based on Hedera eventually reaching 50$, enough you won't kill yourself and enough to never have to think of money ever again.

[Anonymous No.51650595]

>>51634408
What can HBAR do that ICP can't?

[Anonymous No.51650730]

>>51650595
https://blocknomy.net/rated/coins?filter=platform

[Anonymous No.51650756]

>>51650595
Governing council, bringing trust to the network.
Fees pegged to the dollar, perfect for predicting yearly costs.

Enough for enterprises to build on top of it.

[Anonymous No.51650779]

HBARCHADS WE ARE GONNA WAGMI

[Anonymous No.51651149]

>>51648878
>>51648908
>7:43
>The use case that we're developing on and hope to bring to the market this year is basically what we're calling "proof of reserve"
This year he says

[Anonymous No.51651366]

>>51634408
>>51634421
>>51634480
>>51634543
That's a drawing.

https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/AllDemons.html

[Anonymous No.51651659]

>>51641037
I’ve maintained since my first post that I believe the tech is incredible, my entire suspicion has been around token distribution, which remains relatively unaddressed. I suppose then we have no choice but to accept HBAR price will be heavily suppressed over the next few years until the team is done dumbing and a larger proportion is in organic public circulation.

[Anonymous No.51651754]

>>51651659
fine with me desu, im a poorfag and I need time to accumulate

[Anonymous No.51651832]

who gaf about le tech when the tocken dumping/unlocks/price action is so atrocious. probably wait until it's down another 50% and then use it for small pumps if they bear market is still on
imagine marrying a coin

[Anonymous No.51653144]

>>51651659
More organic than your fudding I’d reckon kek

But hey, you gotta complain about something. At least you are being honest and recognizing the marvel of the tech so we are making progress. Maybe in a few months you’ll attack Mances hair or Leemons smile ?

WAGMI

[Anonymous No.51653351]

>>51644411
I'm using exodus and they work natively with ledger wallets. I wouldn't put them on exchanges desu

>>51643389
this anon knows what's up

>>51650595
ABFT
actual decentralized technology roadmap (might be 5-10 years from now

>>51651659
token distributions won't matter if hedera gets mass adoption ala apple/microsoft

[Anonymous No.51653432]

>>51640671
I learned that HBAR's BFT is only 33%, while Geeq's blockchain is about 99% and is completely secure and trustless through their unique and innovative protocol.

[Anonymous No.51653729]

>>51653351
Kek scam

[Anonymous No.51653743]

>>51653432
Nothing is completely secured.

[Anonymous No.51653749]

>>51653144
Once again not fudding, just asking a sincere question towards investors who have likely looked further into it than I have. The sentiment on this thread seems to be in agreement with what I see though - even the strongest believers don’t deny the tokenomics are absurd, they are simply justifying it with a moonboy perspective (which imo is super premature and risky given virtually 0 current usecase/transactions for Hedera atm). The greatest technology I the world doesn’t mean shit if the owners just use it as a tool to enrich themselves instead of creating something meaningful out of it.

>>51653351
Yes the key word is *if*. I’ve acklwedged repeatedly in this thread that I agree *if* that is the case then my concerns are irrelevant. Unfortunately it is a pretty big if. I liken the best case scenario to people who were married to LINK in the last bullrun, missing huge profits due to failing to understand how much of circulating tokens would be dumping on them suppressing the price. By every definition, HBAR distribution is even more detrimental to price action in the short-medium term (or so it seems to me, all I am asking is for a genuine non cope non moonboy refutation of this)

[Anonymous No.51653791]

>51653749 (you)
your whole question is a big if dumbass

[Anonymous No.51653939]

>>51650779
But ADA and XRP actually have marketing and are well known amongst normies. Unless Tesla jobs the GC and Musk starts talking about HBAR, it will never moon. TPS needs to be into 6 figures to be profitable which won't happen for a few decades (and thats assuming it survives). HBAR will most likely end up as that obscure coin that some Redditors talked about thinking they would get rich from back in the early 2020s.

[Anonymous No.51654027]

>>51653749
Yes bro all of these huge corporations with longstanding reputations are scamming retail investors for the sake of the early SAFT buyers. You've hit the nail on the head, and these htrannies are retarded.

[Anonymous No.51654079]

>>51653791
>10% total supply allocated at $0.001
>6% at $0.005
>45% (inclusive of above 10+6) allocated at sub $0.005, mostly $0.001, to execs, devs, founders, insiders, early ‘investors’.
My question is in fact not an “if”, but an observation on the reality of the tokenomics and a request for explanation. Your response is seething and namecalling.
>investing protip: if something seems too good to be true, distracts you with words or formulas you don’t understand, and you can’t explain and justify it in simple terms to another person, and it upsets you to be asked basic questions about it, then 100% of the time it is a scam.

[Anonymous No.51654109]

>>51654079
Where are you getting your numbers from btw

[Anonymous No.51654128]

>>51653939
>Unless Tesla jobs the GC and Musk starts talking about HBAR, it will never moon
Delete this. I hear this FUD from normies that are 100% confident this is the case

[Anonymous No.51654147]

>>51654027
The tech is cool, but you’re severely misunderstanding how the governance works if you think the other big corporations have anything to do with the ‘scamming’. These organizations are simply allocated the tokens (acquired for free) by Hedera to prop up the scam and give it legitimacy (that is, in the scenario that it turns out to be a scam, which I’m not saying it nevessarily is, just that it is suspicious and the responses in this thread are classic pajeet scammy responses and deflections for the most part). Let me remind you that the whole western fiat/banking system is itself a scam, even if it’s functional

[Anonymous No.51654162]

>>51654109
Official numbers from Hedera, I don’t have link handy right now but google it pretty easily accessible

[Anonymous No.51654219]

>>51654147
WTF HBROS I THOUGHT WE INVESTED IN A LEGIT PROJECT SOMEONE UNFUD THIS

[Anonymous No.51654309]

>>51654162
The 10% and 6% numbers are fine but the 45% is egregiously wrong. In total ~10 billion coins were sold to SAFT so that's ~20% of the all the coins. Where are you getting 45% from?

[Anonymous No.51654376]

>>51654309
official numbers from hedera

[Anonymous No.51654409]

Get Lucky! The tech allows amazing things to be done.

[Anonymous No.51654441]

can someone plz give me copium

[Anonymous No.51654497]

>>51654376
Those are only the SAFT numbers, including the execs, founders, employees and swirled allocation is 45% or so.
>https://messari.io/asset/hedera-hashgraph/profile/launch-and-initial-token-distribution
>https://hedera.com/treasury-management-report

[Anonymous No.51654729]

>>51653743
Since there is no such thing as a perfect system, it is acceptable to strive for perfection and prioritizint security and scalability first priority.

[Anonymous No.51654775]

>>51654497
I think this is a valid concern in so far as you’re a short term investor. I think Hedera’s future is inevitable because of the tech superiority, but if that were not convincing enough for you then I would look else where for investment opportunities.

[Anonymous No.51655067]

>ITT: HFAGS cope about HBAGS

[Anonymous No.51656576]

>>51654775
Fair comment, but it still sounds like massive cope and leans more into the idea that /biz/ HBAR holders are delusional about the realistic possibility of it pumping hard

[Anonymous No.51657481]

HFARTS on suicide watching letting their own thread die realising they’ve all been scammed ahahah

[Anonymous No.51657907]

>>51644411
>I don't trust chrome extensions with future generational wealth.
I get where you are coming from Anon but you don't have to worry about using them. You can set up your Hashpack with your Ledger.
Even if Hashpack totally fails and your PC gets gigahacked you will be save because the keys never ever leave your Ledger.

[Anonymous No.51657954]

>>51650595
aBFT, aBFT sharding, actual decentralization, predictable low fees (pegged to Dollar value), actual scalability, governing council
But I have to admit that ICP is really good and I think they both have their place in the future, just for different use cases.

[Anonymous No.51658916]

>>51634408
Anymore of her?
Demon girls in white socks
So hot

[Anonymous No.51658920]

Hfart!

[Anonymous No.51659060]

>>51658916
only if you hold hbars

[Anonymous No.51659310]

>>51656576
>8 posts by id, all fud
>posts a pic named "saftunfud"
Are you that bored in your life, that you come to a board of a token you presumably hate just spamming "I like the tech but I'm concerned by early investors dumping" ?

I refuse to believe it. You are either paid or holding Hbar and have another motive. But anyways. Hbar holders should be never planning to sell, just like you'd be if you were buying the fuel of the future AWS. But yeah sure, some people who got in earlier will be richer than you.

>>51657954
I always forget about the ABFT part, like it should be taken for granted. But yeah, huge game changer. I love Hedera so much !


Farewell brothers, I will see you in the citadel in a few years if you play your cards right.

[Anonymous No.51659993]

>>51659310
There are a few coins that I'm holding and hopefully never sell. Passive income will be better long term.

[Anonymous No.51660026]

>>51659310
I haven’t posted any pics and I have no reason to hate hbar. Why is asking about tokenomics so triggering for fragile /biz/ ‘investors’?

I’m out of this thread now anyway. Can’t stand to read another emotional wordy post which doesnt bother to attempt to answer, accuses of bad faith fud, and pretends the only issue is that ‘earlier investors will be richer’. I wish the best for all HBAR buyers and truly hope you all make it. I have made up my mind not to buy though, the scam setup is pretty clear and I’m sure Leemon is grateful for all the liquidity /biz/ provides for his dumps. Would be lucky if HBAR reclaims 20c by 2025 the way it looks now.

[Anonymous No.51660199]

>>51638177
>Not selling one hbar before staking is live, sharding is live and stocks are tokenized.

[Anonymous No.51661685]

I took the HBAR-pill.

Sui/make it stack?

[Anonymous No.51661816]

>>51661685
10k, 100k

[Anonymous No.51661838]

>>51634408
I haven't bought crypto in months but holy fuck my dick is diamonds right now. Gonna buy 1000 Euro worth of Hashies when I get on my phone

[Anonymous No.51661954]

>>51643389
This guy gets it. I only have 135k hashies but I'm hoping it'll eventually be enough

[Anonymous No.51662055]

we did it SAUCE chads the great CMO of Hedera noticed us

https://twitter.com/chasker/status/1574751799512162304?s=20&t=ValoqGnxwg4S_LrCRExXvw

[Anonymous No.51663988]

>>51660026
Lol imagine thinking the 10 of us on biz have ANY effect on hederas price.

Youve done well in this thread Rahamjupurgah, pls post more sirs.

Bump to keep thread alive.

[Anonymous No.51664282]

>>51657907
I just want to make sure I have it set-up right. I set-up my hashpack via ledger, so if I ever need to recover the wallet, I just use my ledger's seedphrase? There wasn't one issued upon making a Hashpack wallet.

[Anonymous No.51664626]

>>51664282
>There wasn't one issued upon making a Hashpack wallet.
There IS a seed phrase for hashpack. Double check your work.

[Anonymous No.51664658]

>>51664282
to be sure, you might want to double check with hashpack on their discord

[Anonymous No.51664993]

I'VE BECOME SO NUMB

[Anonymous No.51666275]

you guys are my only friends

[Anonymous No.51666406]

>>51664282
Yes you did it right. Your seed phrase never left the ledger. Don't forget you save your account number too as you'll need that aswell if you want to restore your wallet. Native support for ledger isnt far off thankfully

[Anonymous No.51667522]

>>51664282
just note your seed phrase and private key somewhere on paper and or on an unused usb.

[Anonymous No.51667596]

Serious question. Sell me on HBAR.

[Anonymous No.51668115]

>>51666406
>>51667522
>>51664658
ok, i did all that. just haven't moved my stack over yet cause I'm afraid I fucked it up. Ty brahs!

[Anonymous No.51668137]

>400million tkns added since 1 Sept that’s the entire Avax; Rune & Sol token supply.

SOMEBODY PLS UNFUD THIS

[Anonymous No.51668600]

>>51667596
I saw Leemon and Mance in Morocco yesterday. Mance was haggling with a trader in the bazaar for some Moroccan juniper, among other spices. He kept shoving his phone in the man's face saying he could pay him with hbar. The trader kept asking for dirhams but then Leemon interrupted to tell him that he was going to walk away in 8 seconds if they didn't reach consensus. A bell rang out and the marketplace started to move towards the temple for one of their daily prayers. Desperate, I saw Mance offer the trader a council position for a handful of juniper, then rambled on about how he loved making gin in the bathtub. I tried to reach them to calm the situation because the trader was looking quite agitated as Mance tugged on his robe. Leemon started talking about how all of these goods could be turbo encapsulated which briefly distracted the trader as Mance ran off with a handful of juniper. I was about to reach them when Leemon looked at his watch and shouted something about a town hall meeting he had to be at. He started walking off while saying "hi" with a giggling chuckle at each passing Moroccan.
I don't think we're getting our money, hbros.

[Anonymous No.51668637]

>>51668137
they are leaking them out according to plan. you should have read white paper before investing but yes they plan to leak them out over the next decade, hbar is pretty long term hold

[Anonymous No.51668674]

>>51634408
Satania isn't cute

[Anonymous No.51668735]

>>51668600
>I saw Mance offer the trader a council position for a handful of juniper

[Anonymous No.51669099]

>>51668600
jesus christ can someone use these sentences as prompts for StabeDiffusion or DallE. LMAO

>The trader kept asking for dirhams but then Leemon interrupted to tell him that he was going to walk away in 8 seconds if they didn't reach consensus

bruh!

[Sage No.51669422]

>>51668137
>liquidated
Kek I’m not sure why he’d buy Hbar when he’s such a massive algo shill

[Anonymous No.51669447]

Lol Hbar price has a new account

[Anonymous No.51669697]

>>51668600
>Desperate, I saw Mance offer the trader a council position for a handful of juniper
We're not getting out money back hbros

[Anonymous No.51671433]

>>51638177
Checked.

[Anonymous No.51672765]

>>51667596
My friend that did the audit said that Hedera corporation was just one rented shared office space. That's where they have the two computers setup that ping each other to "confirm asynchronous byzantine" according to Baird. When the audit team asked about tokenization, Baird got really angry and said "you can't prove it's a scam!" To top it off, one of the computers did an automatic reboot and ran updates while the audit team was there. Baird said this was the Hedera network "fixing itself" and that "this is crypto".
The audit team asked about the governing council and Baird just said "surely you've heard of Google." Whenever they asked about the roles and responsibilities, Baird just kept smirking and saying "Google it".
Independent audit team reports this project is "extremely bizarre" and "very likely a scam". I say this as a big investor. This is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.51673065]

Given that both FTM and ADA and XRP hit $3
I'm fairly certain HBAR can do the same
I just hope I can stack enough before the next bull run

[Anonymous No.51674150]

>>51672765
Tldr

[Anonymous No.51674521]

>>51638620
This.

[Anonymous No.51674792]

ngtmi
your best move right now would be swapping for MATIC
>Hedera: shit NFT marketplace
>Polygon: one of the most valuable NFT market places

>Hedera: shit DeFi space
>Polygon: 5th highest DeFi TVL

>Hedera: zero dApps
>Polygon: 37,000 dApps

>Hedera: no major partnerships
>Polygon: partnerships with fortune 100 companies

[Anonymous No.51676322]

didn't hbar attend a new logo? what happened to it? idont even wanna know

also
>>51674792
LOL pajeetmatic dont have anything new and innovative like hbar. hbar is complete new tech, DAG-direct acrylic graph but pajeeticmatic is just an eth-clone stop fudding your own bags.

[Anonymous No.51676340]

>>51634408
>He needs to promote his token by appealing to basic needs such as sex with pedo anime pics

Short opened

[Anonymous No.51676391]

>>51676340
>sex with pedo anime pics
anon she's 12...

[Anonymous No.51676419]

>>51676391
Yeah, short opened.
Imagine thinking you can control me with porn, kek. You have no power over me

[Anonymous No.51676444]

>>51676419
you need to stop. you're not supposed to be turned on by little girls

[Anonymous No.51677655]

Oof, this thread is still alive ?
Truly a sight to see in those times. I’m buying more.

One day a tinybar will pay you a snicker bar.

[Anonymous No.51678653]

hbar is good

[Anonymous No.51680657]

>>51677655
Checked n yes, gotta keep bumping until staking goes live